[00:52] <linuxman410_> cyberanger bodhilinux is the only one that sees broadcom 43 chipset
[00:53] <linuxman410_> cyberanger you here
[01:01] <linuxman410_> orangeninja have you tried bodhilinux
[01:10] <orangeninja> sorry I missed it Linuxman410,  but no I have not.
[01:11] <Unit193> He's still online
[01:12] <orangeninja> where?
[01:13] <Unit193> #lubuntu :P
[01:36] <Unit193> orangeninja: Not exactly the right place
[01:37] <orangeninja> shiii I didnt know
[01:37] <Unit193> Xubuntu now too?
[01:37] <orangeninja> I figured I see if it was a channel....
[01:38] <orangeninja> I am running that on a destop right now
[01:39] <Unit193> Support channel
[01:42] <orangeninja> sorry I am not IRC stalking you... I promise
[01:48] <linuxman410> cyberanger when you get this message i want to resign from ubuntu team
[01:48] <wrst> hey linuxman410
[01:48] <wrst> linuxman410: why??
[01:49] <linuxman410> wrst just do not believe in ubuntu no more no branch of it
[01:49] <wrst> linuxman410: hang around you don't have to
[01:50] <wrst> many guys in here use something else
[01:50] <wrst> great thing about linux many options!
[01:51] <linuxman410> wrst i do use other linux i am not going to quit linux
[01:51] <wrst> no need to quit here then
[01:52] <Unit193> Exactly, Bodhi is even based on Ubuntu so it's close enough ;)
[01:53] <linuxman410> Unit193 did not know i was breaking guidlines in lubuntu sorry
[01:53] <orangeninja> thi is more like a TLUG channel anyway.
[01:53] <orangeninja> yeah me too
[01:53] <wrst> yep and as far as broadcom support actually I've found ubuntu to be one of the best out there
[01:53] <Juzzy> t = TN?
[01:53] <orangeninja> yeah
[01:53] <orangeninja> lol
[01:53] <Juzzy> thought 90% were in knoxville
[01:54] <Unit193> linuxman410: No problem! I was just informing you before someone else did
[01:54] <orangeninja> ok KLUG
[01:54] <linuxman410> wrst i only have 512 ram that is my other problem even xubuntu needs more than that
[01:54] <Juzzy> heh
[01:54] <Juzzy> no excuse having < 2 gb of ram these days, seriously
[01:54] <orangeninja> I am Nashville
[01:55] <orangeninja> linuxman410: you on an old lappy?
[01:55] <orangeninja> if I am ever off on an NLUG night I am going
[01:55] <Juzzy> 8GB (2x4GB) G.Skill Ripjaws Series DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory $40 + Free Shipping
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[01:55] <linuxman410> orangeninja yeah a old dell inspiron 8200
[01:55] <Unit193> CPU~Single core Celeron (Mendocino) (-UP-) clocked at 498.429 Mhz Kernel~2.6.38-11-generic i686 Up~10 days Mem~152.6/495.1MB HDD~20.2GB(59.3% used) Procs~135 Client~Irssi 0.8.15 inxi~1.7.7
[01:55] <wrst> whoa Juzzy
[01:56] <Unit193> 2HDDS
[01:56] <Juzzy> ah orangeninja: ya I'm 1 hr S of nashville
[01:56]  * wrst needs 8GB of ram in his laptop!
[01:56] <Juzzy> ya heh this is desktop ram
[01:56] <Juzzy> my laptop has 8gb tho ;/
[01:56] <wrst> oh Juzzy i thought that was mighty cheap for laptop memory :)
[01:56] <orangeninja> yeah I fugured, I got an old IBM T42 with 512 works perfect but needs batt and linux
[01:56] <wrst> and Juzzy that DESKTOP word should have been a giveaway for me!
[01:57] <orangeninja> Juzzy: what kind I want one
[01:57] <Juzzy> lol
[01:57] <Juzzy> I have a Dell E6510, pimped out
[01:57] <Juzzy> it's rockin
[01:57] <Juzzy> company dropped $2500 on it, heh
[01:58] <wrst> linuxman410: i do think that you can't expect a distro that is aiming for widespread adoption to work well on older/lower spec'd machines
[01:58] <linuxman410> orangeninja i buy old hardware cause batteries are cheaper
[01:58] <Juzzy> orangeninja: going to infosec tomorrow?
[01:58] <orangeninja> freakin laptop supercomputer
[01:58] <Juzzy> yea, its got an i7
[01:58] <orangeninja> nope, I am working
[01:58] <Juzzy> ah
[01:59] <linuxman410> se my laptop only cost 60 bucks
[02:00] <orangeninja> linuxman410: when I get time I will set up some linux on that t42 might upgrade to a gig though if it'll let me
[02:01] <linuxman410> has anyone heard anything from exodus_ms it has been years since i seen him in here
[02:02] <orangeninja> Juzzy: you in Columbia or around there?
[02:08] <wrst> linuxman410: saw him pop in a few weeks ago just for a moment
[02:11] <Unit193> 8-30-11
[02:12] <Unit193> Seems to have only been there ~3 minutes
[02:16] <linuxman410> wrst i did just leave the lubuntu team
[02:18] <cyberanger> linuxman410: sorry, prioritizing my link a good bit, moving alot of data this week (building a mirror)
[02:19] <linuxman410> cyberanger what for
[02:19] <cyberanger> well, my own projects atm, but long term I'm hoping to setup a public mirror
[02:20] <linuxman410> cyberanger what kind of projects
[02:21] <cyberanger> main one is a router project, very early stages
[02:21] <Unit193> cyberanger: :D
[02:21] <cyberanger> aimed more at moderate users, emergency situations
[02:22] <linuxman410> cyberanger i need a custom os that will un on the broadcom 43 wireless
[02:22] <Juzzy> orangeninja: sorta, Lewisburg
[02:22] <Juzzy> E of columbia
[02:22] <Juzzy> SE-E
[02:22] <cyberanger> compared to others that are easy, but limited, or advanced use but a pain for an emergency situations, when you need to setup and move on
[02:22] <linuxman410> cyberanger do you know how i can do that
[02:23] <cyberanger> linuxman410: what are the other requirements
[02:23] <linuxman410> pentium 4 1.6 512 ram
[02:23] <cyberanger> Juzzy: we had alot in the east, then west had the majority, now it's middle again it seems
[02:24] <cyberanger> linuxman410: lxde, openbox, gnome, xfce, wicd or network-manager?
[02:24] <Juzzy> nah, I'm middle TN
[02:24] <Juzzy> I'm like EXACTLY between nashville and huntsville
[02:24] <linuxman410> cyberanger that will work with broadcom 43
[02:24] <cyberanger> Juzzy: I was referring to your earlier 90% knoxville comment
[02:24] <Juzzy> oh sry
[02:25] <Juzzy> gotcha now
[02:25] <Juzzy> noone going to infosec tomorrow? :(
[02:25] <cyberanger> linuxman410: I follow that, you need a linux kernel with broadcom b43
[02:25] <cyberanger> but what else, what UI
[02:25] <linuxman410> cyberanger openbox
[02:26] <cyberanger> Juzzy: infosec? (only heard of two confrences coming up, phreaknic & skydogcon)
[02:26] <linuxman410> cyberanger would the ubuntu alternative install have broadcom
[02:26] <cyberanger> linuxman410: what network manager, to go with your card (config files, wpasupplacant, or something a little more powerful, like wicd or network-manager)
[02:27] <Juzzy> infosec is tomorrow
[02:27] <linuxman410> cyberanger wicd
[02:27] <cyberanger> Juzzy: where? I hadn't heard at all
[02:27] <Juzzy> cyberanger: unfortunatly skydogcon and phreaknic are on the same days
[02:27] <Juzzy> nashville conv center
[02:27] <cyberanger> Juzzy: intenionally (but not the same hotels)
[02:28] <Juzzy> well, semi
[02:28] <Juzzy> skydog tried to move his
[02:28] <Juzzy> but got flack for it
[02:28] <cyberanger> I've heard a little about it, and I'm sure there is pieces of the story that are lacking
[02:28] <Juzzy> he also tried to get passes that'd work for both events but phreaknic didnt want to
[02:29] <linuxman410> cyberanger can i do it with ubuntu alternative
[02:29] <cyberanger> skydog used to run phreaknic two years, apperently nashville2600 didn't like the way he ran things, he said he would create a con for two years, was gonna be over the summer to not conflict
[02:30] <cyberanger> had to do this to save face, then both cons on the same weekend, and on an NFL night (very odd, seems delibrate)
[02:30] <cyberanger> linuxman410: hang on, looking into it
[02:30] <linuxman410> cyberanger ok thanks
[02:31] <Juzzy> ya I don't care for grownup drama
[02:31] <Juzzy> all I know is skydog and mudflap both run the local hackerspace
[02:31] <Juzzy> which is pretty damn cool
[02:32] <cyberanger> Juzzy: yeah, which explains the hackerspaces seeming to favor skydogcon
[02:32] <Juzzy> I'm starting something similiar in lewisburg as an arm of my school
[02:32] <cyberanger> didn't know about infosec tommorow, no choice but miss it I'm afraid
[02:32] <Juzzy> well like, he's having a lock picking event
[02:32] <Juzzy> which is more down my alley
[02:32] <linuxman410> cyberanger sorry it is ip2200
[02:32] <Juzzy> i love lockpicking
[02:33] <Juzzy> peep this
[02:33] <cyberanger> linuxman410: driver is ip2200
[02:33] <cyberanger> Juzzy: I'm not sure what I'm gonna do, I think phreaknic has proven itself (even though I gott keep in mind, skydog is the reason for two years of that)
[02:34] <linuxman410> cyberanger sorry that is my wireless on one ui have broadcom on the other one ineed to know how to customize it
[02:34] <Juzzy> http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/182809_1274488199173_1739005916_479264_6102052_n.jpg
[02:34] <cyberanger> and my thing was the wifi foxhunt, which neither are doing)
[02:34] <Juzzy> single pin picked - 7-pin security bank bag, < 1 minute
[02:41] <linuxman410> cyberanger holler when u find something
[02:41] <cyberanger> linuxman410: I'm confused, I'm checking the alternate installer for what wifi driver
[02:42] <linuxman410> ip2200
[02:45] <Unit193> 3oz cookie
[02:46] <cyberanger> linuxman410: the ip2200, not the b43
[02:46] <linuxman410> cyberanger both
[02:50] <cyberanger> well, ip2200 is intel, so that has high odds of inclusion
[02:54] <cyberanger> linuxman410: after running a cli install with alternate disk, it'll finish & have you reboot
[02:55] <linuxman410> cyberanger then what
[02:55] <cyberanger> then you'll need internet connection (not with the wifi card, but a wire that's supported) then run
[02:56] <cyberanger> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wicd-curses b43-fwcutter
[02:56] <cyberanger> and that'll install what's needed for both wifi cards (note, you'll have what's needed for wifi, but extremely little on the system, it's purely a cli system, no gui installed yet)
[02:57] <cyberanger> for the ip2200 machine, you can leave out b43-fwcutter if you'd like
[02:58] <linuxman410> cyberanger what about gui
[02:58] <cyberanger> well, you said custom, your choice, I've shown you a screenshot or 5 of my setup
[02:59] <cyberanger> but be warned, it's involved (I can do it in less than 5 minutes now, for a reinstall, but first time, truely customizing it all, an hour or more)
[02:59] <linuxman410> cyberanger but what do itype to install gui
[03:00] <cyberanger> well, which gui, gnome, kde, lxde, openbox
[03:00] <cyberanger> how much outside the UI do you want
[03:00] <linuxman410> cyberanger openbox
[03:01] <cyberanger> wallpaper switcher, taskbar?
[03:01] <cyberanger> login manager?
[03:01] <linuxman410> cyberanger yes
[03:02] <linuxman410> cyberanger yes to all you ask
[03:03] <cyberanger> openbox obconf obmenu nitrogen tint2 slim xcompmgr xinit
[03:04] <linuxman410> cyberanger is that what i type
[03:06] <cyberanger> sudo apt-get install wicd-curses b43-fwcutter openbox obmenu obconf nitrogen tint2 slim xcompmgr xinit
[03:06] <linuxman410> cyberanger is that what i type
[03:06] <cyberanger> merely to install the packages yes
[14:02] <wrst> good morning everyone
[16:27] <Xpistos> cyberanger: hey. do you have a little time to maybe ts a Openswan issue?
[16:28] <Xpistos> wrst:
[16:29] <wrst> howdy Xpistos
[17:36] <Unit193> wrst: Good afternoon
[18:00] <wrst> afternoon Unit193 how goeth things?
[18:01] <Unit193> wrst: Had to readup a stupid IRC war, but going for a visit to friends house in a few (with pop, cookies, and food)
[18:12] <wrst> Unit193: there you go
[18:12] <wrst> much better than an irc war :)
[18:14] <Unit193> Heck yeah, be back ~12, party without me ;)
[18:21] <wrst> enjoy!
[18:23] <Unit193> Thanks, adios
[20:38] <cyberanger> Xpistos: you know me, I'll try to squeeze it in
[20:38] <Xpistos> nah
[20:40] <cyberanger> nah, no need it's solved? or..?
[20:44] <cyberanger> Xpistos: ^
[20:44] <Xpistos> sort a
[20:47] <cyberanger> Xpistos: well I don't mind, know it's been a week long ordeal for you
[21:21] <pace_t_zulu> hey guys
[21:21] <wrst> hey pace_t_zulu
[21:21] <pace_t_zulu> thinking bout moving my cell number to google voice
[21:21] <pace_t_zulu> any thoughts?
[21:21]  * pace_t_zulu looks in cyberanger's direction
[21:22] <Xpistos> I am thinking the same
[21:23] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: go for it
[21:24] <cyberanger> just be aware that might complicate the cell phone while the number is ported & a new cell number is assigned, it's rare, easy to migiate, with a prepaid for a backup
[21:24] <cyberanger> and there maybe no hiccups anyway, just advising you in case there are
[21:25] <cyberanger> I've started to move off google voice to asterisk myself, not quite all the way yet though
[21:25] <cyberanger> just something fells so right about asterisk, pleases the inner phreaker/hacker in me ;-)
[21:26] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: ^^
[21:26] <cyberanger> Xpistos: ^^
[21:26] <cyberanger> been using it since it was called grandcentral, it's nice
[21:26] <cyberanger> http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20110912
[21:29] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: thanks
[21:29] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: you prefer asterisk to google voice?
[21:39] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: if you got the time means & budget, like to tinker with literally every setting, yes
[21:40] <cyberanger> but atm I'm using them in tandem
[21:41] <cyberanger> (cause I don't have the budget I'd like for it full time)
[21:45] <Xpistos> So when I win the lottery. Who do I hire to right me a comic book management system?
[21:46] <Xpistos> pace_t_zulu: did you make it to the festival this weekend?
[21:46] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: i do not have time
[21:46] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: would you recommend google voice
[21:46] <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: no ... i've been slammed lately
[21:46] <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: started a new job recently
[21:46] <Xpistos> ouch. Festival site got over 30k hits in a month
[21:46] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: yep, I would
[21:47] <Xpistos> pace_t_zulu: still in vandy?
[21:47] <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: no
[21:47] <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: i'll pm you a link
[21:47] <Xpistos> cool
[21:47] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: however I do have to add, that asterisk is worth fiddling with, if only due to the fact it's a common office PBX
[21:48] <Xpistos> NICE!
[21:49] <cyberanger> but that's nothing wrong with google voice (asterisk I have mutiple line in's compared to google's one, and international too, since google voice is only available in the us, us number, kinda like a UK & Sweedish number I've had for years)
[21:53] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: the main reason is that i'm too busy to answer my cell
[21:53] <pace_t_zulu> and too many people have my cell number and think they can get text message tech support
[21:53] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: so i am going to move that number to google voice and get a new number and keep it private
[21:54] <cyberanger> that case I can see, for both systems then
[21:54] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: but google voice is likely to be less hassel to set up for basic nieed
[21:54] <cyberanger> google voice tell your cell not to send text messages, or use calling groups to limit when work calls & texts, and everyone else
[21:55] <cyberanger> (might want to make two work groups if your on call ever, have that second one be those who should contact you when on call)
[21:56] <cyberanger> there's definately tricks to deal with that
[21:59] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: i didn't understand that first one
[22:01] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: in google voice you have settings for each phone, only mobile phones have a setting for text messaging, you can set that off if you never use text messaging, just check in google voice or in your email for them instead (I've done this for cost savings)
[22:01] <cyberanger> also, you can tie contacts into groups, have the default policy be call nobody, your cell, your home phone, or a mixture, then calling groups for everything else
[22:02] <cyberanger> and you can set times when groups can call, or when a number is forwarded to (if you work a 9-5, no point calling home, so tell it not to forward at that time)
[22:04] <pace_t_zulu> so i can still text through google voice?
[22:05] <cyberanger> yep, both ways
[22:05] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: do you have an android phone
[22:06] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: iPhone
[22:06] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: that perhaps doesn't come as much of a surprise though ;)
[22:07] <cyberanger> yeah, wasn't thinking
[22:08] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: make sure you keep to the app, or you risk leaking your number
[22:08] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/google-voice/id318698524?mt=8
[22:09] <pace_t_zulu> leaking my google voice number?
[22:09] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: or my new private number?
[22:09] <cyberanger> no, your non-voice number
[22:09] <cyberanger> if you text directly from the iphone
[22:10] <cyberanger> there's different things with different phones, android (and looking at this, presume same designs apply iphone) is highly intregrated
[22:11] <cyberanger> but there are ways to gof
[22:11] <cyberanger> but there are ways to goof, have it leak
[22:12] <cyberanger> it's easy, hands on, describing it all though, could be easier
[22:13] <cyberanger> be back on tonight, meeting I gotta get to though
[22:13] <cyberanger> bbl