/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/09/16/#kubuntu-devel.txt

* apachelogger cant sleep :(01:15
valoriesympathies, apachelogger02:20
valoriealthough I hope you have drifted off by now02:20
apacheloggerhavent02:40
DarkwingDuckWow.03:04
DarkwingDuckIt's only 8p and I am tired.03:05
DarkwingDuckMight have something to do with getting to bed at 7a03:05
apacheloggerkubotu: order coffe for DarkwingDuck03:13
* kubotu slides coffe down the bar to DarkwingDuck03:13
apacheloggeroh03:13
apacheloggerI can't even type no more03:13
apacheloggerkubotu: order coffee for DarkwingDuck03:13
* kubotu slides coffee with milk down the bar to DarkwingDuck.03:13
apacheloggerkubotu: actually you should slide me one too03:13
DarkwingDuckkubotu: order coffee for apachelogger 03:17
* kubotu slides coffee with milk down the bar to apachelogger.03:17
DarkwingDuckThis has got to be the dumbest show I have ever watched.03:20
DarkwingDuckUS TV is soooooo stupid03:20
DarkwingDuckI lost IQ points watching it.03:20
DarkwingDuckBugger, I think the planet is broken.03:22
apacheloggershadeslayer: so... from looking at this I see 2 options: a) write a lightweight wrapper around libical and staticlink libical and strip symbols we do not use b) write our own impl03:53
apacheloggeron harmattan there is kcal available, but that is a rather fat lib + so not portable unless included in the software03:53
DarkwingDuckLooking to sell me mobile workstation if anyone is interested.04:22
DarkwingDuckspecs: http://paste.kde.org/122113/ comes with 2nd battery and case. It's a Lenovo ThinkPad W70004:23
DarkwingDuck1400USD04:24
claydohdang DarkwingDuck 04:27
* claydoh wishes he had cash04:27
DarkwingDuckIt works good. I'm just doing a lot of community stuff and it's heavy04:28
claydohya, a bit big04:30
claydohmakes my dell seem puny04:30
claydohcuz it is smaller and slower04:30
DarkwingDuckIf I don't sell it before then, I'll have it at UDS04:30
claydohmine cost me 200 bux , i am cheep04:31
claydohand under-funded04:31
DarkwingDuckYeah, I'm looking at replacing it with a ZaReason04:31
claydohcool04:31
DarkwingDuckBut, I have to sell it first for the $$04:31
claydohshouldn't be too hard, I dont't think04:32
DarkwingDuckI don't think it will.04:33
DarkwingDuckI'm hoping to sell it quick so I can have the Zareason before UDS04:33
* apachelogger broke something :(04:46
ScottKdebfx: All your KDE uploads are processed. Please send more.04:49
shadeslayerdebfx: how do you override this : /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/2/policy.mk:24: *** debian_qt_kde.mk usage denied by policy..  Stop. in debian ?05:41
shadeslayeralso, i'm using this for kde-wallpapers ... 05:42
shadeslayerapachelogger: light wrapper around libical, writing our implementation is too much work05:43
shadeslayerbulldog98_: yofel_ i'm taking up digikam05:44
ScottKshadeslayer: Need akonadi 1.6.1 if you have time.06:15
* ScottK goes to bed.06:15
shadeslayerScottK: will do06:15
shadeslayermy exams got over today, so have loads of free time06:15
shadeslayerapachelogger: btw telepathy kde can now store passwords in kwallet06:16
shadeslayerdoesn't work completely, but its a start06:16
CIA-130[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/akonadi] Rohan Garg * 34 * debian/changelog New upstream bug fix release06:34
shadeslayerCould someone upload akonadi from bzr ? Build Log : http://paste.kde.org/12213106:35
faboScottK: SSLv2 patch commited with 2 other patches (including CVE-2011-3193)07:19
ubottu** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem.  When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2011-3193)07:19
shadeslayerbtw kde-runtime is ftbfs07:26
* shadeslayer shakes fist at multiarch07:39
debfxshadeslayer: you can't override it in Debian07:46
shadeslayershucks07:48
shadeslayerdebfx: http://paste.kde.org/122137/ << does that look like a multi arch problem to you?07:48
shadeslayeri have qtwebkit installed07:49
debfx"-lQt4::QtWebKit" looks weird07:49
debfxdoesn't look like a multiarch problem07:50
shadeslayeroh, i thought it was ok to have those colon's there07:50
shadeslayeryofel_: kdelibs frameworks needs a newer cmake -.-07:51
shadeslayerwe will have fun packaging that for neon :P07:51
debfxmaybe but I've never seen those07:51
bambeemorning07:52
shadeslayerdebfx: manually editing ./obj-x86_64-linux-gnu/extra/libkvkontakte/libkvkontakte/CMakeFiles/kvkontakte.dir/link.txt fixes the issue07:57
shadeslayerinstead of Qt4::QtWebKit  i used QtWebKit07:57
debfxyes, but how is that lib name constructed in cmakelists.txt?08:00
shadeslayeryeah thats what i'm trying to find08:01
shadeslayerall i could find was : ./extra/libkvkontakte/libkvkontakte/CMakeLists.txt:  ${QT_QTWEBKIT_LIBRARY}08:01
shadeslayerdebfx: extra/libkvkontakte/libkvkontakte/CMakeLists.txt looks just fine imo08:10
shadeslayerhuh, kde-runtime builds just fine locally08:13
debfxshadeslayer: have you had libqtwebkit-dev installed when starting the build?08:16
shadeslayerdebfx: it failed and then i installed it08:17
debfxshadeslayer: "make distclean" will fix it08:19
shadeslayerok, one other question, /usr/lib/cmake/* should go into dev packages right?08:22
debfxin general yes, but digikam shouldn't have a dev package08:24
debfxso I wouldn't install them at all08:24
shadeslayernah, its a new library08:24
shadeslayerLibKVkontakte 08:24
shadeslayerits included in the digikam sources, and some other stuff depends on it08:25
debfxwhat depends on it?08:25
shadeslayerone second, brb08:26
debfxI  thought digikam just embeds a bunch of libs because it has no release management08:30
shadeslayerdebfx: nope, for eg. now it has libkfac08:31
shadeslayer*libkface08:31
shadeslayerdebfx: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=62801908:33
ubottuDebian bug 628019 in digikam "new upstream version: 2.0" [Wishlist,Open]08:33
debfxyes, but either you package libkface in a separate source package and convince digikam to use that or it's an embedded copy of the library without a -dev package08:33
shadeslayerdebfx: seems like currently we ship the headers for libkface in libkface-dev 08:34
shadeslayerso, what you're saying is, libkface should be a seprate project and digikam should depend on it08:35
shadeslayerbwahahahaaha .... lp oops08:35
shadeslayerdebfx: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/digikam/view/head:/debian/libkface-dev.install08:39
debfxshadeslayer: I would just include the library in the digikam package and ignore all the dev stuff08:48
shadeslayeralright08:48
shadeslayeroh wait, no seprate libfoo package you mean?08:48
debfxyes08:49
shadeslayerah ok08:49
shadeslayerdebfx: do i merge libkface into the digikam package as well?08:49
shadeslayerand the other libraries as well08:50
shadeslayerbtw : dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libkvkontakte.so.1 needed by debian/kipi-plugins/usr/lib/kde4/kipiplugin_vkontakte.so (ELF format: 'elf64-x86-64'; RPATH: '').09:10
shadeslayeri could just include it with the plugin09:10
shadeslayerdebfx: ^09:10
shadeslayeri'm off to lunch, will bbl09:17
shadeslayercya09:17
bulldog98_workhi guys is it possible to get to know the fingerprint of a gpg key, without having gpg installed?09:18
bulldog98_workshadeslayer: could you paste me the fingerprint of my gpg key?09:18
Riddellbulldog98_work: is it in your launchpad account?09:24
bambeeit is, and his pubkey is also on keyserver.ubuntu.com09:25
bulldog98_workRiddell: yes09:25
bambeebulldog98_work: your fingerprint = 1D6C 1BFC 92D4 1D90 4E27  70BE 13C2 0989 4305 6E1409:25
bambee(I used the pubkey found on launchpad and on keyserver.u.c)09:26
bulldog98_workbambee: I tryed that too09:26
bulldog98_workbambee++09:27
bambeehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/690640/09:27
bambee;)09:27
shadeslayerjust use keyserver.ubuntu.com ? :P09:28
bambeeapachelogger: akonadi-facebook has been uploaded to revu09:42
debfxshadeslayer: are there embedded libraries that are required by both digikam and kipi-plugins?09:43
shadeslayerdebfx: no, that looks like a library that is only used by the plugin09:44
shadeslayernot sure tho09:44
* bulldog98_work has done some businesscard stuff: http://imgur.com/a/2qaJI#MzgnC09:55
bulldog98_workthe quality is bad09:55
bulldog98_workhttp://i.imgur.com/NmCnG.png and http://i.imgur.com/tbOY9.png09:58
bulldog98_workapachelogger, yofel_ ^09:58
shadeslayerdude10:03
shadeslayerbulldog98_work: use the design on the wiki10:03
shadeslayermuch better10:03
jussibulldog98_work: theres a bit too much going on with it in the background - wouldnt mind seeing it with less strong colours10:07
jussiie. wash it out slightly10:07
* rbelem pokes ScottK 10:21
shadeslayerhe went to sleep iirc10:23
rbelemshadeslayer, hum... he went to bed late 02:15 am10:24
* rbelem goes to work10:26
bulldog98_workshadeslayer, jussi: I simply put the Wallpaper to the back, I may do an other try10:31
bulldog98_workWas only to see if it looks ok10:31
bulldog98_workshadeslayer: can you paste the look of the card you meen? I´m on MacOS and cant see it10:32
shadeslayerhold on10:32
shadeslayerbulldog98_work: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BusinessCards?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=newdesign_businesscard_1.svg10:33
shadeslayerhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/BusinessCards?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=newdesign_businesscard_2.svg10:33
* bulldog98_work even managed to get MacOS to sow wrong colors aso10:34
shadeslayerhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/BusinessCards?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=newdesign_businesscard_3.svg10:34
bulldog98_workshadeslayer: but I want a Kubuntu branded one10:34
shadeslayeroh10:34
bulldog98_workshadeslayer: what programm would you use to create one? LaTeX, Scribus or Inkscape?10:35
shadeslayerInkscape10:35
shadeslayerLaTeX isn't suitable for this, LaTeX is suitable for books and CV's and stuff10:36
shadeslayernever used Scribus10:36
* bulldog98_work doesn`t know howto use that good tuts?10:36
shadeslayeruh ... just install it and launch it, click some buttons and you'll know what to do :P10:37
bulldog98_workshadeslayer: I want a manual, I don´t know anything :P10:38
bulldog98_workshadeslayer: apt-get install scribus10:38
shadeslayerbulldog98_work: i didn't know how to use inkscape as well, i just started pushing buttons and figured it out10:38
* bulldog98_work needs an desinger that does a branded Card, so he can modify that10:39
shadeslayerbulldog98_work: ask sheytan then10:39
bulldog98_workshadeslayer: sheytan isn´t here yet10:52
bulldog98_work:P10:52
bulldog98_workbtw whats about kubuntu cloaks10:53
shadeslayerheh10:53
shadeslayer!membership | bulldog98_work 10:54
ubottubulldog98_work: Ubuntu Membership means recognition of a significant and sustained contribution to Ubuntu and the Ubuntu community.  For more info see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership10:54
shadeslayerbulldog98_work: there's a link in there somewhere10:54
ScottKrbelem: What?10:54
jussiscribus = :/10:56
jussibulldog98_work: no kubuntu cloaks, sorry10:57
ScottKfabo: Thanks.11:04
ScottKbulldog98_work: Think of it as an "Ubuntu the project" cloak, not an "Ubuntu the desktop" cloak.11:05
bulldog98_workScottK: k11:08
ScottKAnyone on amd64 that can try to install libreoffice/oneiric in a clean chroot to see if it installs/needs anything from Universe?11:12
ScottKIt's allegedly uninstallable at the moment.11:12
shadeslayerScottK: i can have a look11:22
ScottKshadeslayer: Thanks.11:22
shadeslayerbtw, can a source package name differ in Ubuntu and debian?11:22
ScottKapachelogger: Can you upload shadeslayer's akonadi update (so I can approve it)11:23
ScottKshadeslayer: It happens.11:23
shadeslayerso, how does one file sync requests for such a package?11:23
ScottKUsually if it's packaged in Ubuntu an then later someone packages in Debian and doesn't notice.11:23
ScottKWhat's the package?11:23
shadeslayerScottK: synthesis in debian experimental11:24
shadeslayerand its libsynthesis in ubuntu11:24
ScottKIf they had the same name, why would a sync be appropriate a month before release?11:24
shadeslayernew bug fix release11:24
ScottKHow different are the packages?11:25
shadeslayerScottK: like ubuntu vs debian diff? none11:25
ScottKOK.11:25
shadeslayeri have a build log if you want it11:26
shadeslayerit's always been sync'd from what i can see11:26
ScottKThen file a sync request for the new package (and say it'll replace the old one), go through the normal sponsorship process, and then after it's in, file a bug asking for removal of the old package.11:26
shadeslayeralright11:26
shadeslayerScottK: http://paste.kde.org/122203/ << looks just fine ( i saw the ca cert's issue in the other builds as well )11:29
shadeslayerbtw this is a chroot with universe enabled11:29
ScottKCan you try it again without Universe?11:30
shadeslayersure11:30
ScottKThanks.11:32
ScottKshadeslayer: Nevermind.  I figured it out.11:34
ScottKThe issue I was seeing reported was with a DVD build and those aren't run everyday, so it's an old report.11:34
ScottKSorry for the distractions.11:34
shadeslayerah no problem :)11:35
shadeslayerbah ... packages.debian.org shows the incorrect info11:40
shadeslayerScottK: btw, digikam is being demoted right?12:01
ScottKshadeslayer: Has been.12:02
ScottKSo the Universe build-dep is fine.12:02
shadeslayeralright12:02
shadeslayerdebfx: i've put the library in kipi-plugins-common , is that alright?12:03
debfxshadeslayer: that's an arch-all package12:35
shadeslayerdebfx: uh ... no .. its arch-any i think12:36
shadeslayerbah, you're right12:37
shadeslayerdebfx: so, should i chuck it into kipi-plugins instead?12:37
debfxyes12:38
shadeslayeralright12:38
debfxScottK: what should we do about the kdirwatch patch from kde4libs? apparently no one has tested it and it doesn't affect the oneiric kernel12:38
ScottKdebfx: Did we upload it already?12:39
debfxno12:39
ScottKIf not, I'd be inclined to drop it.12:39
debfxyeah let's drop it, we'll get the fix anyway post-release with kde 4.7.212:41
debfxif there are no objections I'll upload kde-runtime without the active patches12:50
debfxScottK: apachelogger: ^12:54
danimois natty already frozen?12:54
ScottKdebfx: Yes.  At the very least we should do that for now.12:54
danimoerr, not natty :)12:54
ScottKdanimo: Yes, but we can get stuff in if it's important.12:54
danimo10.1012:54
danimo11.1012:54
danimoargs12:54
ScottK11 even.12:54
ScottK(this one goes to eleven)12:54
danimoScottK: well, fabo fixed some things in icecc that make it useful in the first place12:55
danimoScottK: icecc 0.9.7-3 in sid12:55
ScottKYou can request a sync.12:55
danimoScottK: I just uploaded it to my PPA to use it on older versions12:55
danimoScottK: how?12:55
ScottKUse requestsync.12:57
ScottKIt'll file a bug that a sponsor will review.12:57
ScottK(it's in ubuntu-dev-tools)12:57
=== jjesse_ is now known as jjesse
danimoScottK: done13:37
danimoScottK: 85188713:53
debfxdanimo: have you tested the package?13:59
ScottKdebfx: If you use the sync api to do the sync (assuming you agree with it), it'll hit the unapproved queue where I can do the sync.14:01
apacheloggershadeslayer: ScottK: what akonadi update, or rather... where?14:02
apacheloggerdebfx: which packages need uploading?14:03
shadeslayerapachelogger: new upstream bug fix release14:03
ScottKapachelogger: 1.6.1, see backscroll14:03
apacheloggerdidn't see in backscroll14:03
debfxapachelogger: everything in main that has desktop files and uses pkg-kde-tools. I don't have a list of packages14:04
apacheloggerbulldog98: about kubuntu branded business cards .... simply take the ubuntu ones and swap the ubuntu logo for the kubuntu one14:04
apacheloggerdebfx: I think having a list before doing things would have made a lot of sense14:05
ScottKapachelogger: [02:34:56] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/akonadi] Rohan Garg * 34 * debian/changelog New upstream bug fix release14:05
apacheloggerah14:05
ScottKapachelogger: I didn't check if shadeslayer noticed, but this fixes 707878, so that ought to be mentioned in the changelog.14:09
ScottKI was hunting after that one when I found the akonadi release ...14:09
* apachelogger waves fist14:09
apacheloggerI committed 3 seconds before you wrote that14:10
shadeslayeryou mean uploaded14:11
CIA-130[akonadi] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916141140-hbut0lo0f8w4w0hg * debian/changelog New upstream bug fix release (LP: #707878)14:11
apacheloggerbzr ci14:11
apacheloggergoes ahead and commits14:12
apacheloggeryou know14:12
apacheloggerthis is beginning to piss me off14:12
apacheloggerepcially14:12
shadeslayerhehe14:14
shadeslayer!find panorama.png oneiric14:16
ubottuFile panorama.png found in gallery2, python-guiqwt14:16
shadeslayerapachelogger:  export BZR_DISABLE_PLUGINS=builddeb bzr commmit14:18
debfxapachelogger: amarok, bluedevil, choqok, k3b, kaffeine, kamoso, koffice, konversation, ktorrent, muon, networkmanagement, partitionmanager, rekonq, skanlite, synaptiks14:18
* apachelogger thinks build-rdeps is broken14:18
debfxand quassel14:19
* apachelogger mass-bugs that14:19
debfxstuff that needs to be investigated: kcm-gtk, kdesudo, kopete-message-indicator, kubuntu-firefox-installer, kubuntu-notification-helper, plasma-widget-menubar, plasma-widget-message-indicator14:20
shadeslayerdebfx: apachelogger ScottK review needed for digikam : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kubuntu-packaging/digikam/revision/3314:25
apacheloggerdebfx: skanlite is not in core KDE anymore?14:26
apacheloggerdebfx: networkmanagement is the plasma-widget?14:26
ScottKapachelogger: It never was.  It was always extragear (skanlite)14:28
ScottKapachelogger: It is.14:28
ScottKapachelogger and shadeslayer: akonadi update is in.  Thanks.14:28
shadeslayerwohoo14:28
apacheloggerhttp://i.imgur.com/n55Xk.png14:29
ScottKkamoso will have to come off the dvd due to digikam demotion14:31
apacheloggerjust don't tell alex :P14:32
* apachelogger wonders how long it takes launchpad to process a new bug mail14:32
debfxapachelogger: yes, that's the plasma widget14:33
ScottKMy favorite fix in the akonadi update was the one where they changed the mysql timeout from 8 hours to a year.14:34
apacheloggerthe supremacy of high quality software14:36
apacheloggerTo report bugs by e-mail, you need to sign the message with an OpenPGP key14:37
apacheloggerthat is registered in Launchpad.14:37
* apachelogger waves both fists shouting14:37
apacheloggermy kontact has been fckd for 2 years, how exactly am I supposed to sign the rubbish mail with anything14:37
apacheloggergARAERHBHG14:37
ScottKapachelogger: If it's sent via gmail you don't need to gpg sign it.14:42
apacheloggerit was14:43
ScottKapachelogger: Can I assign you figuring what's up with the the French language pack?14:46
ScottKBug 84292214:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 842922 in kde-l10n-fr (Ubuntu Oneiric) "kde-l10n-fr ftbfs" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84292214:46
apacheloggerdebfx: bug 85195314:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 851953 in synaptiks (Ubuntu) "Rebuild for transition away from desktop file stripping" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85195314:46
apacheloggerScottK: needs rebuild14:47
* ScottK retries.14:47
=== jjesse_ is now known as jjesse
apacheloggerScottK: bug 849936 ... I think the questions are more whether they are regression from 1.114:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 849936 in bluedevil (Ubuntu) "Feature Freeze Exception for bluedevil 1.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84993614:57
apacheloggerafiestas: ^14:57
ScottKapachelogger: In part.  The other part is if the new feature is buggy and will confuse people.14:57
ScottKIt seemed from my reading that the DUN stuff was appearing at inconvenient times for some people.14:57
apacheloggerwell14:59
apacheloggerIIRC it was only that DUN is behaving oddly if the device aint configured yet14:59
shadeslayerapachelogger: should i start work on that wrapper?15:00
apacheloggerfor libical?15:00
shadeslayeryus15:00
apacheloggerfirst try to incorproate the build system into qmake and link it statically and strip symbols that are not used ;)15:01
CIA-130[amarok] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916150249-n6h4ebvgpcdy3bk2 * debian/changelog releasing version 2:2.4.3-1ubuntu215:02
shadeslayerapachelogger: why the need to strip stuff away?15:03
apacheloggershadeslayer: mobile apps must not be fat + the fatter the longer it takes to start15:03
shadeslayerbut isn't libical provided on harmattan? or do we want to thin the library even further?15:04
apacheloggershadeslayer: what about deployments on symbian? and android? and iOS?15:05
apacheloggermind the cute15:05
apacheloggershadeslayer: also it appears you disaligned choqok archive and choqok bzr15:06
apacheloggerbad shadeslayer15:06
shadeslayerhuh? 15:06
* shadeslayer checks15:06
apachelogger choqok (0.9.98-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low15:06
apacheloggeriin bzr15:06
shadeslayeri didn't even know choqok had a bzr branch @_@15:07
apacheloggerfirst looky looky, then work :P15:07
shadeslayeraha15:08
Riddellhttps://lwn.net/Articles/455972/  42,000 school rollout of Kubuntu15:08
shadeslayerapachelogger: not entirely my fault, neversfelde is to blame as well :P15:08
shadeslayer0.9.98-0ubuntu1 was released, but not updated in bzr15:08
=== apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | Feature Freeze in effect | TODO: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-flavor-kubuntu.html | 4.7.1: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | Congratulations to bulldog98 | 42k schools with Kubuntu: https://lwn.net/Articles/455972/
shadeslayerwohoo15:09
shadeslayerapachelogger: i'll fix0r it15:09
shadeslayerapachelogger: also, subsequent releases were made but never updated in bzr15:10
apacheloggershadeslayer: no15:12
apacheloggerI am on it15:12
shadeslayeroh alright15:12
CIA-130[choqok] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916151257-qiqi25lo926b5tnp * debian/ (changelog control) * No-change rebuild to stop desktop file stripping (LP: #851953) * Update VCS entries for bzr15:13
CIA-130[k3b] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916151438-egtrn3mxq1dv2d31 * debian/changelog No-change rebuild to stop desktop file stripping (LP: #851953)15:14
bulldog98-tmpapachelogger: please make a post about 4.7.115:15
bulldog98-tmpand the love story goes on :)15:15
apacheloggershadeslayer: so, I was thinking... since we do not do anything with the ical other than parse it and build the UI based on it... I think simply downloading the file and storing it as cache would be more than sufficient15:15
apacheloggerbulldog98: it seems you would be perfect to post about that15:16
bulldog98-tmpapachelogger: have no time until sunday15:16
shadeslayerhmm, yeah, but then writing the parser in js is all sorts of pita15:16
apacheloggershadeslayer: well, the parser needs be cpp15:17
apacheloggerand be it only for threading15:17
shadeslayerok, then you want to parse the entire thing using just Qt?15:17
apacheloggerwould be an option15:17
apacheloggeror you manage to break ical into a distributable form15:17
apacheloggerbut really, writing the parser is not that difficult15:18
shadeslayerapachelogger: well .. i'm just intimidated by writing my own ical parser :P15:18
shadeslayeri'm sure its possible, i'm just not sure that i can do that 15:18
apacheloggershadeslayer: look at the drual parser impl15:18
apacheloggeryou cannot go wrong with this ^^15:18
shadeslayerhaha :D15:18
shadeslayeri'm going out for dinner in a couple of minutes, will come back and have a look :)15:19
bulldog98-tmpI´m off now15:19
apacheloggerone approach would be writing one foreach(line) ... if (line == "foobar:Begin") createNewEvent(); if(line == "foobar:End") endEvent(); parseLine(line);15:20
ScottKdidrocks: Can you look at the Debian qt4-x11 repos, grab fabo's security and sslv2 patches and then upload them?15:20
apacheloggerin parse line you basically only need to split by :15:20
apacheloggerthen insert that into a qmap<Qstring, Qvariant> orso15:21
apacheloggernot the most performant ical parser, but still better than all the regex in JS15:21
shadeslayerheh, true15:22
didrocksScottK: would be on Monday if it can wait by then? (not sure with the beta freeze) I'm really busy with some compiz thingy right now :/15:22
faboScottK: it's commited in kubuntu packaging15:22
ScottKfabo: Oh.  Even batter.15:22
ScottKbetter.15:22
didrocksexcellent, thanks fabo!15:22
ScottKdidrocks: Monday is too late I fear.15:22
ScottKapachelogger: ^^^ Can you do it?15:23
didrocksScottK: I won't be able to test it though, let me look at the changes15:23
faboScottK: I need to apply for ubuntu-dev and I could upload myself ;)15:23
didrocksfabo: sounds better, yeah :)15:23
ScottKfabo: Yes.  Please.15:23
CIA-130[kaffeine] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916152315-ukqpvb0v1po5ad6w * debian/changelog No-change rebuild to stop desktop file stripping (LP: #851953)15:23
didrocksfabo: btw, I tried to ping you last week about a change in debian/rules to only build documentation if current arch ship the -doc package, interested?15:23
* rbelem pokes ScottK 15:24
fabodidrocks: I've seen the changes but I think debfx has commited a modification on top15:25
ScottKrbelem: What?15:25
rbelem:-)15:25
didrocksfabo: yeah, a way better version :)15:25
fabodidrocks: it's included in kubuntu packaging. I'll cherry-pick for next upload to Debian. 4.7.4-1 is mostly ready on git.debian.org15:26
rbelemScottK, some active patches in kde-runtime are in the KDE/4.7 now15:26
ScottKrbelem: OK.  We had to strip the runtime stuff out today just to get something built.15:27
apacheloggerrbelem: it would be better if all of them were15:27
didrocksfabo: good news! thanks :)15:27
rbelemapachelogger, they will move everything to a sepated lib15:27
rbelem:-)15:27
shadeslayeralright, cya tomorrow15:27
rbelemScottK, apachelogger, i will make the changes to the pkg removing that split and cherrypick the patches :-)15:28
rbelemsame for kdelibs15:29
apacheloggerrbelem: I was more thinking about the activitymanager patches really ^^15:29
rbelemapachelogger, i think this will go to a different lib afaiu15:31
apacheloggerrbelem: did you see the uds mobiel app yet?15:31
rbelemapachelogger, not yet15:32
rbelemapachelogger, where do i get it?15:32
apacheloggerhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/uds-qml.mp4 http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/uds-qml2.mp4 http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/uds-qml3.mp415:33
apacheloggeractually I should push new code to the repo15:33
apacheloggerScottK: I might15:34
apacheloggerrbelem: git://anongit.kde.org/scratch/sitter/uds-qml15:36
rbelemnice15:36
* rbelem clones15:37
apacheloggerthat is iteration1 though ... my current working copy is way ahead of it15:37
apacheloggerI'll try to push my new stuff later on15:37
apacheloggerktorrent has no bzr branch :O15:38
apacheloggermuon neither :O15:39
apacheloggerand where is jonny?15:39
apacheloggerplasma-widget-networkmanagement also does not seem to be in sync15:42
apacheloggeryofel_: your script could also compare what we have in bzr versus what we have in the archive15:43
apacheloggeroh15:44
apacheloggerp-w-nm was renamed it seems S:15:44
ScottKrbelem: Make sure on -runtime you start with what's in the archive.  It was just uploaded today.15:45
rbelemScottK, oki15:46
rbelemapachelogger, Type ICalParser unavailable15:47
rbelemapachelogger, module "QtQuick" version 1.1 is not installed15:47
apacheloggerlol15:47
apacheloggera) you need Qt 4.7.415:47
apacheloggerb) you need to use the harmattan version15:47
rbelemah! ok :-)15:47
apacheloggerthe desktop UI does not exist right now15:48
apacheloggerrbelem: in main.cpp change qml/desktop/main.qml to qml/ubuntudevelopersummit/main.qml15:48
apacheloggerthat should switch to the harmattan components15:48
rbelemapachelogger, nice :-)15:50
* rbelem grabs its n915:50
apacheloggerScottK: was kamoso demoted yet?15:52
ScottKapachelogger: No.15:52
apacheloggercause I have an upload pending15:53
apacheloggerdebfx: so, what do we do with native packages and desktop files?15:53
apacheloggerensure they have the key hardcoded?15:53
ScottKMay as well go ahead.  We'd want the unstripped desktop files for it anyway.15:53
apacheloggerScottK: I am reasonable certain that kamoso has in source translations15:54
ScottKAh.  Good point.15:54
apacheloggerwhich means we need to rebuild after demotion15:54
* apachelogger puts kamoso down for later upload15:54
apacheloggerhm15:56
apacheloggerkamoso also seems out of sync with archive15:56
CIA-130[kamoso] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916155652-xhe3munxfokkr5wn * debian/ (12 files in 2 dirs) Initial release (Closes: #577639)15:56
CIA-130[kamoso] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916155740-p8d2r8dq1gllsf18 * debian/changelog No-change rebuild to stop desktop file stripping (LP: #851953)15:57
ScottKapachelogger: I'm working on getting it demoted now.15:58
apacheloggerthx15:59
ScottKBTW, the French thing built.  Thanks for the help.16:00
CIA-130[konversation] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916160239-poavnu7e3lpamalz * debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs) sync with archive16:02
CIA-130[konversation] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916160403-7is3lf7m550o530v * debian/changelog No-change rebuild to stop desktop file stripping (LP: #851953)16:04
apacheloggerdebfx: debian/rules:6: /usr/lib/kubuntu-desktop-i18n/debhelper/kubuntu.mk: No such file or directory16:08
apacheloggerwhat happend to that?16:08
ScottKapachelogger: kamoso should be good to go in ~40 minutes.16:09
apacheloggerkthx16:09
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yofelapachelogger: true, I'll look at adding that once I'm home again (sunday)16:18
apacheloggeryofel: awesome16:29
claydohQuintasan: 16:38
claydohoops ignore that16:39
claydohsorry16:39
apacheloggerQuintasan: \16:42
danimoapachelogger: ping?16:57
apacheloggerdanimo: pong16:57
danimoapachelogger: got a sec for a backporting problem? seems that hardy doesn't know about dsc's in 3.0 format. any idea what to do to 'downgrade'?16:58
apacheloggerdanimo: remove debian/source16:59
danimoapachelogger: and then?17:00
danimoapachelogger: (the host I am on is natty)17:00
apacheloggerdpkg-buildpackage -S17:00
danimoapachelogger: I just want to push it for ppa building17:00
apacheloggerthat should spit out a pre-v3 source package17:00
danimoapachelogger: indeed, tnx17:01
danimoapachelogger: so let's see :)17:01
apacheloggerdanimo: alternatively you can also set debian/source/format's content to "1.0"... I am not sure a hardy envrionment will like that though17:02
apacheloggerchances are it will just not care and work17:02
apacheloggerso if you require mergability you probably should use the format 1.0 option17:03
danimoapachelogger: I just did a dput upload again. let's see17:06
danimoapachelogger: there is no immediate feedback on those things. it always has a 5 mins roundtrip17:06
danimoapachelogger: ah, now :)17:06
apachelogger   dh_install -a -O--parallel -O--dbg-package=kaffeine-dbg -O--list-missing17:21
apacheloggercp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/debian/presubj': No such file or directory17:21
apacheloggerdh_install: cp -a debian/tmp/debian/presubj debian/kaffeine//usr/share/bug/kaffeine// returned exit code 117:21
apacheloggerScottK: have you ever seen that error?17:21
ScottKNope.17:22
apacheloggeroh well17:22
* apachelogger unbreaks uds-qml and will look at that build error17:22
apacheloggerrbelem: new code pushed to repo17:31
apacheloggerhttp://i.imgur.com/55AWJ.png17:31
apacheloggershadeslayer: I have ondisk cache and user-specific ical support now :P17:32
apacheloggeralso some problem with object scope, but that was to be expected with all the createComponent() calls \o/17:33
apacheloggeroh, I think I just fixed that17:34
ScottKapachelogger: What happened to kamoso?17:48
ScottKapachelogger: Fixing kaffeine?17:51
shadeslayerapachelogger: looks like you really don't need my help there :P17:54
shadeslayerDigikam Packaging needs review : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kubuntu-packaging/digikam/revision/3317:55
ScottKQuintasan could do that.17:58
apacheloggerScottK: having supper right now18:02
apacheloggershadeslayer: I dislike codebases that is only worked on by one person :P18:02
apacheloggerbesides, you are so afraid of ical you really should face your fears ^^18:02
shadeslayerapachelogger: more like, i'm on a super tight deadline to complete a telepathy feature and read a entire RFC18:03
apacheloggerwhat RFC do you need to read?18:03
apacheloggerno one ever reads an RFC... just some random impl of it ^^18:03
shadeslayer524518:03
apachelogger~rfc 524518:04
apacheloggerkubotu: fail!18:04
shadeslayerhehe18:04
apacheloggeruhh18:04
shadeslayer~google rfc 524518:04
kubotuResults for rfc 5245: 1. RFC 5245 - Interactive Connectivity Establishment (ICE): A Protocol ...: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5245 | 2. RFC 5245 on Interactive Connectivity Establishment (ICE): A ...: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf-announce/current/msg07383.html | 3. Information on RFC 5245: http://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc524518:04
apacheloggerthat is one lovely RFC 18:04
apacheloggervery recommendable read18:04
apacheloggershadeslayer: did you read the make manual yet? :P18:04
shadeslayerhahahahaha18:04
shadeslayerapachelogger: i tried to18:05
shadeslayeri got as far as 15 pages18:05
shadeslayerthen it got boring18:05
apacheloggerweak :P18:05
shadeslayernot weak, it just got .. boring, i'll take it up again some time, but i last read it 2 weeks ago and it was plain boring18:07
apachelogger^^18:07
shadeslayeryofel: the wifi dongle drops the connection if i transfer large files "{18:07
shadeslayer:P18:07
shadeslayerapachelogger: can you explain TURN allocate requests to me?18:09
shadeslayerif you know about them, because that is going completely over my head18:09
apacheloggerI do not18:09
shadeslayerok18:09
shadeslayerbtw see the GSoC ML :P18:10
* apachelogger omnoms while watching will and grace 18:10
apacheloggershadeslayer: did someone get a prn subscription using their card and google got mail?18:10
shadeslayerapachelogger: even better, they're discussing if microsoft is doing anything for gsoc18:11
* apachelogger is wondering if the RAF is doing anything for gsoc18:12
* shadeslayer is wondering when his certificates will arrive so he can submit them to the uni18:16
rbelemapachelogger, it is looking nice now :-)18:18
yofelshadeslayer: blame ralink18:20
shadeslayeryofel: hehe :P18:20
shadeslayeryofel: yer pbuilder is messed up i think18:20
rbelemapachelogger, it just need wrap the session names18:20
shadeslayerduplicate ca certs18:20
rbelemto wrap18:21
yofelo.O18:21
shadeslayeryeah, i have no idea how that happened, i was test building kde-runtime and testing libreoffice, saw it then18:21
apacheloggerrbelem: primarily it needs a sensible interface18:27
apacheloggernot quite sure how to do that18:28
apacheloggerperhaps an additionall drill down page18:28
apacheloggerso you have day -> track | room -> event18:28
apacheloggerplus hiding of everything that is past currentDateTime18:29
rbelemapachelogger, i could ask help from the ux designers18:31
apacheloggerrbelem: uh, that would be great18:34
rbelemapachelogger, tuesday they will have something :-)18:44
apacheloggerwohooo18:44
apacheloggerrbelem: you are my hero \o/18:44
apacheloggerrbelem++18:44
rbelem-D18:44
rbelem:-D18:44
* rbelem hugs apachelogger 18:45
CIA-130[kaffeine] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916190332-odqj3rot0v94wp1i * debian/ (6 files in 3 dirs) Sync bzr branch with archive to unbreak build19:03
debfxapachelogger: kubuntu-desktop-i18n is no more19:07
debfxapachelogger: maybe we need to resurrect it and put it into an own dh addon19:10
CIA-130[kaffeine] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916190950-4li5ghj2z64ck1nc * debian/kaffeine.docs drop docs file -> no more todo file there19:10
apacheloggerdebfx: you could just have emptied the file instead of removing it :S19:13
* apachelogger fixes some of Tonio_'s changelog entries for a change19:13
CIA-130[kaffeine] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916191528-ymgdbphsor3lwd3z * debian/changelog fix changelog format19:16
apacheloggerScottK: kamoso good to go up?19:18
ScottKYes19:18
debfxapachelogger: why? dropping an include line is easy enough to fix19:18
apacheloggerexcept if we need to go back to non-stripping19:19
CIA-130[kamoso] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916191925-43o2yuk8ib7862am * debian/changelog releasing version 2.0.2-1build119:19
debfxapachelogger: which package is that?19:22
apacheloggerdebfx: synaptiks I think19:23
BarkingFishhi guys. Do we know yet if KDE 4.4.7 is safe?  I have updates waiting to go on if it is...20:46
BarkingFishJust a word to the wise, if you're going hunting bugs on launchpad, be aware that it's not working properly at present.  I'm doing bug searches against oneiric and getting timeout errors.20:56
ulyssesthat's typical Launchpad behaviour :)20:58
ulyssestimeout on everything, not just bug searching20:58
BarkingFishi'm only getting it on bug searches at the moment, nowhere else ulysses - http://imgur.com/5j1tE20:59
bulldog98apachelogger: maybe tomorrow evening21:20
apachelogger:)21:20
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BarkingFishbulldog98, what are the congratulations for? :)21:31
ScottKBarkingFish: We aren't aware of any unsafe KDE upgrades.22:13
BarkingFishok, cool. Was just checking, I thought I saw someone the other day having issues with it... maybe not though.22:14
ScottKThere are occasional issues with kdepim upgrades but for new installs, it's pretty safe.22:18
BarkingFishoh no, this was someone complaining about missing icons and so on.22:19
BarkingFishi'll see if I can find the conversation, may still be in my scrollback22:19
BarkingFishmyxzptlk. it's not.22:21
BarkingFishi'm putting the updates on anyway, i'll see how things progress22:21
ScottKThat one turned out to be an upgrade related config error.22:22
BarkingFishah, ok22:25
BarkingFishWell I'm done, i'll be back shortly.22:25
BarkingFishOh shoot. My package icon in the toolbar has turned into a warning triangle.22:26
BarkingFishsays "2 messages from the package manager"22:26
BarkingFishback soon :)22:28
apacheloggerI hear thunder, but there is no rain22:28
BarkingFishdang me that was quick :)  I just came on with 4:4.7.0 and my network was up before I'd even got into the desktop!22:38
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