[01:15]  * apachelogger cant sleep :(
[02:20] <valorie> sympathies, apachelogger
[02:20] <valorie> although I hope you have drifted off by now
[02:40] <apachelogger> havent
[03:04] <DarkwingDuck> Wow.
[03:05] <DarkwingDuck> It's only 8p and I am tired.
[03:05] <DarkwingDuck> Might have something to do with getting to bed at 7a
[03:13] <apachelogger> kubotu: order coffe for DarkwingDuck
[03:13]  * kubotu slides coffe down the bar to DarkwingDuck
[03:13] <apachelogger> oh
[03:13] <apachelogger> I can't even type no more
[03:13] <apachelogger> kubotu: order coffee for DarkwingDuck
[03:13]  * kubotu slides coffee with milk down the bar to DarkwingDuck.
[03:13] <apachelogger> kubotu: actually you should slide me one too
[03:17] <DarkwingDuck> kubotu: order coffee for apachelogger 
[03:17]  * kubotu slides coffee with milk down the bar to apachelogger.
[03:20] <DarkwingDuck> This has got to be the dumbest show I have ever watched.
[03:20] <DarkwingDuck> US TV is soooooo stupid
[03:20] <DarkwingDuck> I lost IQ points watching it.
[03:22] <DarkwingDuck> Bugger, I think the planet is broken.
[03:53] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: so... from looking at this I see 2 options: a) write a lightweight wrapper around libical and staticlink libical and strip symbols we do not use b) write our own impl
[03:53] <apachelogger> on harmattan there is kcal available, but that is a rather fat lib + so not portable unless included in the software
[04:22] <DarkwingDuck> Looking to sell me mobile workstation if anyone is interested.
[04:23] <DarkwingDuck> specs: http://paste.kde.org/122113/ comes with 2nd battery and case. It's a Lenovo ThinkPad W700
[04:24] <DarkwingDuck> 1400USD
[04:27] <claydoh> dang DarkwingDuck 
[04:27]  * claydoh wishes he had cash
[04:28] <DarkwingDuck> It works good. I'm just doing a lot of community stuff and it's heavy
[04:30] <claydoh> ya, a bit big
[04:30] <claydoh> makes my dell seem puny
[04:30] <claydoh> cuz it is smaller and slower
[04:30] <DarkwingDuck> If I don't sell it before then, I'll have it at UDS
[04:31] <claydoh> mine cost me 200 bux , i am cheep
[04:31] <claydoh> and under-funded
[04:31] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah, I'm looking at replacing it with a ZaReason
[04:31] <claydoh> cool
[04:31] <DarkwingDuck> But, I have to sell it first for the $$
[04:32] <claydoh> shouldn't be too hard, I dont't think
[04:33] <DarkwingDuck> I don't think it will.
[04:33] <DarkwingDuck> I'm hoping to sell it quick so I can have the Zareason before UDS
[04:46]  * apachelogger broke something :(
[04:49] <ScottK> debfx: All your KDE uploads are processed. Please send more.
[05:41] <shadeslayer> debfx: how do you override this : /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/2/policy.mk:24: *** debian_qt_kde.mk usage denied by policy..  Stop. in debian ?
[05:42] <shadeslayer> also, i'm using this for kde-wallpapers ... 
[05:43] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: light wrapper around libical, writing our implementation is too much work
[05:44] <shadeslayer> bulldog98_: yofel_ i'm taking up digikam
[06:15] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Need akonadi 1.6.1 if you have time.
[06:15]  * ScottK goes to bed.
[06:15] <shadeslayer> ScottK: will do
[06:15] <shadeslayer> my exams got over today, so have loads of free time
[06:16] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw telepathy kde can now store passwords in kwallet
[06:16] <shadeslayer> doesn't work completely, but its a start
[06:34] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/akonadi] Rohan Garg * 34 * debian/changelog New upstream bug fix release
[06:35] <shadeslayer> Could someone upload akonadi from bzr ? Build Log : http://paste.kde.org/122131
[07:19] <fabo> ScottK: SSLv2 patch commited with 2 other patches (including CVE-2011-3193)
[07:26] <shadeslayer> btw kde-runtime is ftbfs
[07:39]  * shadeslayer shakes fist at multiarch
[07:46] <debfx> shadeslayer: you can't override it in Debian
[07:48] <shadeslayer> shucks
[07:48] <shadeslayer> debfx: http://paste.kde.org/122137/ << does that look like a multi arch problem to you?
[07:49] <shadeslayer> i have qtwebkit installed
[07:49] <debfx> "-lQt4::QtWebKit" looks weird
[07:50] <debfx> doesn't look like a multiarch problem
[07:50] <shadeslayer> oh, i thought it was ok to have those colon's there
[07:51] <shadeslayer> yofel_: kdelibs frameworks needs a newer cmake -.-
[07:51] <shadeslayer> we will have fun packaging that for neon :P
[07:51] <debfx> maybe but I've never seen those
[07:52] <bambee> morning
[07:57] <shadeslayer> debfx: manually editing ./obj-x86_64-linux-gnu/extra/libkvkontakte/libkvkontakte/CMakeFiles/kvkontakte.dir/link.txt fixes the issue
[07:57] <shadeslayer> instead of Qt4::QtWebKit  i used QtWebKit
[08:00] <debfx> yes, but how is that lib name constructed in cmakelists.txt?
[08:01] <shadeslayer> yeah thats what i'm trying to find
[08:01] <shadeslayer> all i could find was : ./extra/libkvkontakte/libkvkontakte/CMakeLists.txt:  ${QT_QTWEBKIT_LIBRARY}
[08:10] <shadeslayer> debfx: extra/libkvkontakte/libkvkontakte/CMakeLists.txt looks just fine imo
[08:13] <shadeslayer> huh, kde-runtime builds just fine locally
[08:16] <debfx> shadeslayer: have you had libqtwebkit-dev installed when starting the build?
[08:17] <shadeslayer> debfx: it failed and then i installed it
[08:19] <debfx> shadeslayer: "make distclean" will fix it
[08:22] <shadeslayer> ok, one other question, /usr/lib/cmake/* should go into dev packages right?
[08:24] <debfx> in general yes, but digikam shouldn't have a dev package
[08:24] <debfx> so I wouldn't install them at all
[08:24] <shadeslayer> nah, its a new library
[08:24] <shadeslayer> LibKVkontakte 
[08:25] <shadeslayer> its included in the digikam sources, and some other stuff depends on it
[08:25] <debfx> what depends on it?
[08:26] <shadeslayer> one second, brb
[08:30] <debfx> I  thought digikam just embeds a bunch of libs because it has no release management
[08:31] <shadeslayer> debfx: nope, for eg. now it has libkfac
[08:31] <shadeslayer> *libkface
[08:33] <shadeslayer> debfx: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=628019
[08:33] <debfx> yes, but either you package libkface in a separate source package and convince digikam to use that or it's an embedded copy of the library without a -dev package
[08:34] <shadeslayer> debfx: seems like currently we ship the headers for libkface in libkface-dev 
[08:35] <shadeslayer> so, what you're saying is, libkface should be a seprate project and digikam should depend on it
[08:35] <shadeslayer> bwahahahaaha .... lp oops
[08:39] <shadeslayer> debfx: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/digikam/view/head:/debian/libkface-dev.install
[08:48] <debfx> shadeslayer: I would just include the library in the digikam package and ignore all the dev stuff
[08:48] <shadeslayer> alright
[08:48] <shadeslayer> oh wait, no seprate libfoo package you mean?
[08:49] <debfx> yes
[08:49] <shadeslayer> ah ok
[08:49] <shadeslayer> debfx: do i merge libkface into the digikam package as well?
[08:50] <shadeslayer> and the other libraries as well
[09:10] <shadeslayer> btw : dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libkvkontakte.so.1 needed by debian/kipi-plugins/usr/lib/kde4/kipiplugin_vkontakte.so (ELF format: 'elf64-x86-64'; RPATH: '').
[09:10] <shadeslayer> i could just include it with the plugin
[09:10] <shadeslayer> debfx: ^
[09:17] <shadeslayer> i'm off to lunch, will bbl
[09:17] <shadeslayer> cya
[09:18] <bulldog98_work> hi guys is it possible to get to know the fingerprint of a gpg key, without having gpg installed?
[09:18] <bulldog98_work> shadeslayer: could you paste me the fingerprint of my gpg key?
[09:24] <Riddell> bulldog98_work: is it in your launchpad account?
[09:25] <bambee> it is, and his pubkey is also on keyserver.ubuntu.com
[09:25] <bulldog98_work> Riddell: yes
[09:25] <bambee> bulldog98_work: your fingerprint = 1D6C 1BFC 92D4 1D90 4E27  70BE 13C2 0989 4305 6E14
[09:26] <bambee> (I used the pubkey found on launchpad and on keyserver.u.c)
[09:26] <bulldog98_work> bambee: I tryed that too
[09:27] <bulldog98_work> bambee++
[09:27] <bambee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/690640/
[09:27] <bambee> ;)
[09:28] <shadeslayer> just use keyserver.ubuntu.com ? :P
[09:42] <bambee> apachelogger: akonadi-facebook has been uploaded to revu
[09:43] <debfx> shadeslayer: are there embedded libraries that are required by both digikam and kipi-plugins?
[09:44] <shadeslayer> debfx: no, that looks like a library that is only used by the plugin
[09:44] <shadeslayer> not sure tho
[09:55]  * bulldog98_work has done some businesscard stuff: http://imgur.com/a/2qaJI#MzgnC
[09:55] <bulldog98_work> the quality is bad
[09:58] <bulldog98_work> http://i.imgur.com/NmCnG.png and http://i.imgur.com/tbOY9.png
[09:58] <bulldog98_work> apachelogger, yofel_ ^
[10:03] <shadeslayer> dude
[10:03] <shadeslayer> bulldog98_work: use the design on the wiki
[10:03] <shadeslayer> much better
[10:07] <jussi> bulldog98_work: theres a bit too much going on with it in the background - wouldnt mind seeing it with less strong colours
[10:07] <jussi> ie. wash it out slightly
[10:21]  * rbelem pokes ScottK 
[10:23] <shadeslayer> he went to sleep iirc
[10:24] <rbelem> shadeslayer, hum... he went to bed late 02:15 am
[10:26]  * rbelem goes to work
[10:31] <bulldog98_work> shadeslayer, jussi: I simply put the Wallpaper to the back, I may do an other try
[10:31] <bulldog98_work> Was only to see if it looks ok
[10:32] <bulldog98_work> shadeslayer: can you paste the look of the card you meen? I´m on MacOS and cant see it
[10:32] <shadeslayer> hold on
[10:33] <shadeslayer> bulldog98_work: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BusinessCards?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=newdesign_businesscard_1.svg
[10:33] <shadeslayer> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BusinessCards?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=newdesign_businesscard_2.svg
[10:34]  * bulldog98_work even managed to get MacOS to sow wrong colors aso
[10:34] <shadeslayer> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BusinessCards?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=newdesign_businesscard_3.svg
[10:34] <bulldog98_work> shadeslayer: but I want a Kubuntu branded one
[10:34] <shadeslayer> oh
[10:35] <bulldog98_work> shadeslayer: what programm would you use to create one? LaTeX, Scribus or Inkscape?
[10:35] <shadeslayer> Inkscape
[10:36] <shadeslayer> LaTeX isn't suitable for this, LaTeX is suitable for books and CV's and stuff
[10:36] <shadeslayer> never used Scribus
[10:36]  * bulldog98_work doesn`t know howto use that good tuts?
[10:37] <shadeslayer> uh ... just install it and launch it, click some buttons and you'll know what to do :P
[10:38] <bulldog98_work> shadeslayer: I want a manual, I don´t know anything :P
[10:38] <bulldog98_work> shadeslayer: apt-get install scribus
[10:38] <shadeslayer> bulldog98_work: i didn't know how to use inkscape as well, i just started pushing buttons and figured it out
[10:39]  * bulldog98_work needs an desinger that does a branded Card, so he can modify that
[10:39] <shadeslayer> bulldog98_work: ask sheytan then
[10:52] <bulldog98_work> shadeslayer: sheytan isn´t here yet
[10:52] <bulldog98_work> :P
[10:53] <bulldog98_work> btw whats about kubuntu cloaks
[10:53] <shadeslayer> heh
[10:54] <shadeslayer> !membership | bulldog98_work 
[10:54] <shadeslayer> bulldog98_work: there's a link in there somewhere
[10:54] <ScottK> rbelem: What?
[10:56] <jussi> scribus = :/
[10:57] <jussi> bulldog98_work: no kubuntu cloaks, sorry
[11:04] <ScottK> fabo: Thanks.
[11:05] <ScottK> bulldog98_work: Think of it as an "Ubuntu the project" cloak, not an "Ubuntu the desktop" cloak.
[11:08] <bulldog98_work> ScottK: k
[11:12] <ScottK> Anyone on amd64 that can try to install libreoffice/oneiric in a clean chroot to see if it installs/needs anything from Universe?
[11:12] <ScottK> It's allegedly uninstallable at the moment.
[11:22] <shadeslayer> ScottK: i can have a look
[11:22] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Thanks.
[11:22] <shadeslayer> btw, can a source package name differ in Ubuntu and debian?
[11:23] <ScottK> apachelogger: Can you upload shadeslayer's akonadi update (so I can approve it)
[11:23] <ScottK> shadeslayer: It happens.
[11:23] <shadeslayer> so, how does one file sync requests for such a package?
[11:23] <ScottK> Usually if it's packaged in Ubuntu an then later someone packages in Debian and doesn't notice.
[11:23] <ScottK> What's the package?
[11:24] <shadeslayer> ScottK: synthesis in debian experimental
[11:24] <shadeslayer> and its libsynthesis in ubuntu
[11:24] <ScottK> If they had the same name, why would a sync be appropriate a month before release?
[11:24] <shadeslayer> new bug fix release
[11:25] <ScottK> How different are the packages?
[11:25] <shadeslayer> ScottK: like ubuntu vs debian diff? none
[11:25] <ScottK> OK.
[11:26] <shadeslayer> i have a build log if you want it
[11:26] <shadeslayer> it's always been sync'd from what i can see
[11:26] <ScottK> Then file a sync request for the new package (and say it'll replace the old one), go through the normal sponsorship process, and then after it's in, file a bug asking for removal of the old package.
[11:26] <shadeslayer> alright
[11:29] <shadeslayer> ScottK: http://paste.kde.org/122203/ << looks just fine ( i saw the ca cert's issue in the other builds as well )
[11:29] <shadeslayer> btw this is a chroot with universe enabled
[11:30] <ScottK> Can you try it again without Universe?
[11:30] <shadeslayer> sure
[11:32] <ScottK> Thanks.
[11:34] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Nevermind.  I figured it out.
[11:34] <ScottK> The issue I was seeing reported was with a DVD build and those aren't run everyday, so it's an old report.
[11:34] <ScottK> Sorry for the distractions.
[11:35] <shadeslayer> ah no problem :)
[11:40] <shadeslayer> bah ... packages.debian.org shows the incorrect info
[12:01] <shadeslayer> ScottK: btw, digikam is being demoted right?
[12:02] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Has been.
[12:02] <ScottK> So the Universe build-dep is fine.
[12:02] <shadeslayer> alright
[12:03] <shadeslayer> debfx: i've put the library in kipi-plugins-common , is that alright?
[12:35] <debfx> shadeslayer: that's an arch-all package
[12:36] <shadeslayer> debfx: uh ... no .. its arch-any i think
[12:37] <shadeslayer> bah, you're right
[12:37] <shadeslayer> debfx: so, should i chuck it into kipi-plugins instead?
[12:38] <debfx> yes
[12:38] <shadeslayer> alright
[12:38] <debfx> ScottK: what should we do about the kdirwatch patch from kde4libs? apparently no one has tested it and it doesn't affect the oneiric kernel
[12:39] <ScottK> debfx: Did we upload it already?
[12:39] <debfx> no
[12:39] <ScottK> If not, I'd be inclined to drop it.
[12:41] <debfx> yeah let's drop it, we'll get the fix anyway post-release with kde 4.7.2
[12:50] <debfx> if there are no objections I'll upload kde-runtime without the active patches
[12:54] <debfx> ScottK: apachelogger: ^
[12:54] <danimo> is natty already frozen?
[12:54] <ScottK> debfx: Yes.  At the very least we should do that for now.
[12:54] <danimo> err, not natty :)
[12:54] <ScottK> danimo: Yes, but we can get stuff in if it's important.
[12:54] <danimo> 10.10
[12:54] <danimo> 11.10
[12:54] <danimo> args
[12:54] <ScottK> 11 even.
[12:54] <ScottK> (this one goes to eleven)
[12:55] <danimo> ScottK: well, fabo fixed some things in icecc that make it useful in the first place
[12:55] <danimo> ScottK: icecc 0.9.7-3 in sid
[12:55] <ScottK> You can request a sync.
[12:55] <danimo> ScottK: I just uploaded it to my PPA to use it on older versions
[12:55] <danimo> ScottK: how?
[12:57] <ScottK> Use requestsync.
[12:57] <ScottK> It'll file a bug that a sponsor will review.
[12:57] <ScottK> (it's in ubuntu-dev-tools)
[13:37] <danimo> ScottK: done
[13:53] <danimo> ScottK: 851887
[13:59] <debfx> danimo: have you tested the package?
[14:01] <ScottK> debfx: If you use the sync api to do the sync (assuming you agree with it), it'll hit the unapproved queue where I can do the sync.
[14:02] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: ScottK: what akonadi update, or rather... where?
[14:03] <apachelogger> debfx: which packages need uploading?
[14:03] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: new upstream bug fix release
[14:03] <ScottK> apachelogger: 1.6.1, see backscroll
[14:03] <apachelogger> didn't see in backscroll
[14:04] <debfx> apachelogger: everything in main that has desktop files and uses pkg-kde-tools. I don't have a list of packages
[14:04] <apachelogger> bulldog98: about kubuntu branded business cards .... simply take the ubuntu ones and swap the ubuntu logo for the kubuntu one
[14:05] <apachelogger> debfx: I think having a list before doing things would have made a lot of sense
[14:05] <ScottK> apachelogger: [02:34:56] <CIA-130> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/akonadi] Rohan Garg * 34 * debian/changelog New upstream bug fix release
[14:05] <apachelogger> ah
[14:09] <ScottK> apachelogger: I didn't check if shadeslayer noticed, but this fixes 707878, so that ought to be mentioned in the changelog.
[14:09] <ScottK> I was hunting after that one when I found the akonadi release ...
[14:09]  * apachelogger waves fist
[14:10] <apachelogger> I committed 3 seconds before you wrote that
[14:11] <shadeslayer> you mean uploaded
[14:11] <CIA-130> [akonadi] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916141140-hbut0lo0f8w4w0hg * debian/changelog New upstream bug fix release (LP: #707878)
[14:11] <apachelogger> bzr ci
[14:12] <apachelogger> goes ahead and commits
[14:12] <apachelogger> you know
[14:12] <apachelogger> this is beginning to piss me off
[14:12] <apachelogger> epcially
[14:14] <shadeslayer> hehe
[14:16] <shadeslayer> !find panorama.png oneiric
[14:18] <shadeslayer> apachelogger:  export BZR_DISABLE_PLUGINS=builddeb bzr commmit
[14:18] <debfx> apachelogger: amarok, bluedevil, choqok, k3b, kaffeine, kamoso, koffice, konversation, ktorrent, muon, networkmanagement, partitionmanager, rekonq, skanlite, synaptiks
[14:18]  * apachelogger thinks build-rdeps is broken
[14:19] <debfx> and quassel
[14:19]  * apachelogger mass-bugs that
[14:20] <debfx> stuff that needs to be investigated: kcm-gtk, kdesudo, kopete-message-indicator, kubuntu-firefox-installer, kubuntu-notification-helper, plasma-widget-menubar, plasma-widget-message-indicator
[14:25] <shadeslayer> debfx: apachelogger ScottK review needed for digikam : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kubuntu-packaging/digikam/revision/33
[14:26] <apachelogger> debfx: skanlite is not in core KDE anymore?
[14:26] <apachelogger> debfx: networkmanagement is the plasma-widget?
[14:28] <ScottK> apachelogger: It never was.  It was always extragear (skanlite)
[14:28] <ScottK> apachelogger: It is.
[14:28] <ScottK> apachelogger and shadeslayer: akonadi update is in.  Thanks.
[14:28] <shadeslayer> wohoo
[14:29] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/n55Xk.png
[14:31] <ScottK> kamoso will have to come off the dvd due to digikam demotion
[14:32] <apachelogger> just don't tell alex :P
[14:32]  * apachelogger wonders how long it takes launchpad to process a new bug mail
[14:33] <debfx> apachelogger: yes, that's the plasma widget
[14:34] <ScottK> My favorite fix in the akonadi update was the one where they changed the mysql timeout from 8 hours to a year.
[14:36] <apachelogger> the supremacy of high quality software
[14:37] <apachelogger> To report bugs by e-mail, you need to sign the message with an OpenPGP key
[14:37] <apachelogger> that is registered in Launchpad.
[14:37]  * apachelogger waves both fists shouting
[14:37] <apachelogger> my kontact has been fckd for 2 years, how exactly am I supposed to sign the rubbish mail with anything
[14:37] <apachelogger> gARAERHBHG
[14:42] <ScottK> apachelogger: If it's sent via gmail you don't need to gpg sign it.
[14:43] <apachelogger> it was
[14:46] <ScottK> apachelogger: Can I assign you figuring what's up with the the French language pack?
[14:46] <ScottK> Bug 842922
[14:46] <apachelogger> debfx: bug 851953
[14:47] <apachelogger> ScottK: needs rebuild
[14:47]  * ScottK retries.
[14:57] <apachelogger> ScottK: bug 849936 ... I think the questions are more whether they are regression from 1.1
[14:57] <apachelogger> afiestas: ^
[14:57] <ScottK> apachelogger: In part.  The other part is if the new feature is buggy and will confuse people.
[14:57] <ScottK> It seemed from my reading that the DUN stuff was appearing at inconvenient times for some people.
[14:59] <apachelogger> well
[14:59] <apachelogger> IIRC it was only that DUN is behaving oddly if the device aint configured yet
[15:00] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: should i start work on that wrapper?
[15:00] <apachelogger> for libical?
[15:00] <shadeslayer> yus
[15:01] <apachelogger> first try to incorproate the build system into qmake and link it statically and strip symbols that are not used ;)
[15:02] <CIA-130> [amarok] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916150249-n6h4ebvgpcdy3bk2 * debian/changelog releasing version 2:2.4.3-1ubuntu2
[15:03] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: why the need to strip stuff away?
[15:03] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: mobile apps must not be fat + the fatter the longer it takes to start
[15:04] <shadeslayer> but isn't libical provided on harmattan? or do we want to thin the library even further?
[15:05] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what about deployments on symbian? and android? and iOS?
[15:05] <apachelogger> mind the cute
[15:06] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: also it appears you disaligned choqok archive and choqok bzr
[15:06] <apachelogger> bad shadeslayer
[15:06] <shadeslayer> huh? 
[15:06]  * shadeslayer checks
[15:06] <apachelogger>  choqok (0.9.98-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
[15:06] <apachelogger> iin bzr
[15:07] <shadeslayer> i didn't even know choqok had a bzr branch @_@
[15:07] <apachelogger> first looky looky, then work :P
[15:08] <shadeslayer> aha
[15:08] <Riddell> https://lwn.net/Articles/455972/  42,000 school rollout of Kubuntu
[15:08] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: not entirely my fault, neversfelde is to blame as well :P
[15:08] <shadeslayer> 0.9.98-0ubuntu1 was released, but not updated in bzr
[15:09] <shadeslayer> wohoo
[15:09] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i'll fix0r it
[15:10] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: also, subsequent releases were made but never updated in bzr
[15:12] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: no
[15:12] <apachelogger> I am on it
[15:12] <shadeslayer> oh alright
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[15:14] <CIA-130> [k3b] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916151438-egtrn3mxq1dv2d31 * debian/changelog No-change rebuild to stop desktop file stripping (LP: #851953)
[15:15] <bulldog98-tmp> apachelogger: please make a post about 4.7.1
[15:15] <bulldog98-tmp> and the love story goes on :)
[15:15] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: so, I was thinking... since we do not do anything with the ical other than parse it and build the UI based on it... I think simply downloading the file and storing it as cache would be more than sufficient
[15:16] <apachelogger> bulldog98: it seems you would be perfect to post about that
[15:16] <bulldog98-tmp> apachelogger: have no time until sunday
[15:16] <shadeslayer> hmm, yeah, but then writing the parser in js is all sorts of pita
[15:17] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: well, the parser needs be cpp
[15:17] <apachelogger> and be it only for threading
[15:17] <shadeslayer> ok, then you want to parse the entire thing using just Qt?
[15:17] <apachelogger> would be an option
[15:17] <apachelogger> or you manage to break ical into a distributable form
[15:18] <apachelogger> but really, writing the parser is not that difficult
[15:18] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: well .. i'm just intimidated by writing my own ical parser :P
[15:18] <shadeslayer> i'm sure its possible, i'm just not sure that i can do that 
[15:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: look at the drual parser impl
[15:18] <apachelogger> you cannot go wrong with this ^^
[15:18] <shadeslayer> haha :D
[15:19] <shadeslayer> i'm going out for dinner in a couple of minutes, will come back and have a look :)
[15:19] <bulldog98-tmp> I´m off now
[15:20] <apachelogger> one approach would be writing one foreach(line) ... if (line == "foobar:Begin") createNewEvent(); if(line == "foobar:End") endEvent(); parseLine(line);
[15:20] <ScottK> didrocks: Can you look at the Debian qt4-x11 repos, grab fabo's security and sslv2 patches and then upload them?
[15:20] <apachelogger> in parse line you basically only need to split by :
[15:21] <apachelogger> then insert that into a qmap<Qstring, Qvariant> orso
[15:21] <apachelogger> not the most performant ical parser, but still better than all the regex in JS
[15:22] <shadeslayer> heh, true
[15:22] <didrocks> ScottK: would be on Monday if it can wait by then? (not sure with the beta freeze) I'm really busy with some compiz thingy right now :/
[15:22] <fabo> ScottK: it's commited in kubuntu packaging
[15:22] <ScottK> fabo: Oh.  Even batter.
[15:22] <ScottK> better.
[15:22] <didrocks> excellent, thanks fabo!
[15:22] <ScottK> didrocks: Monday is too late I fear.
[15:23] <ScottK> apachelogger: ^^^ Can you do it?
[15:23] <didrocks> ScottK: I won't be able to test it though, let me look at the changes
[15:23] <fabo> ScottK: I need to apply for ubuntu-dev and I could upload myself ;)
[15:23] <didrocks> fabo: sounds better, yeah :)
[15:23] <ScottK> fabo: Yes.  Please.
[15:23] <CIA-130> [kaffeine] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916152315-ukqpvb0v1po5ad6w * debian/changelog No-change rebuild to stop desktop file stripping (LP: #851953)
[15:23] <didrocks> fabo: btw, I tried to ping you last week about a change in debian/rules to only build documentation if current arch ship the -doc package, interested?
[15:24]  * rbelem pokes ScottK 
[15:25] <fabo> didrocks: I've seen the changes but I think debfx has commited a modification on top
[15:25] <ScottK> rbelem: What?
[15:25] <rbelem> :-)
[15:25] <didrocks> fabo: yeah, a way better version :)
[15:26] <fabo> didrocks: it's included in kubuntu packaging. I'll cherry-pick for next upload to Debian. 4.7.4-1 is mostly ready on git.debian.org
[15:26] <rbelem> ScottK, some active patches in kde-runtime are in the KDE/4.7 now
[15:27] <ScottK> rbelem: OK.  We had to strip the runtime stuff out today just to get something built.
[15:27] <apachelogger> rbelem: it would be better if all of them were
[15:27] <didrocks> fabo: good news! thanks :)
[15:27] <rbelem> apachelogger, they will move everything to a sepated lib
[15:27] <rbelem> :-)
[15:27] <shadeslayer> alright, cya tomorrow
[15:28] <rbelem> ScottK, apachelogger, i will make the changes to the pkg removing that split and cherrypick the patches :-)
[15:29] <rbelem> same for kdelibs
[15:29] <apachelogger> rbelem: I was more thinking about the activitymanager patches really ^^
[15:31] <rbelem> apachelogger, i think this will go to a different lib afaiu
[15:31] <apachelogger> rbelem: did you see the uds mobiel app yet?
[15:32] <rbelem> apachelogger, not yet
[15:32] <rbelem> apachelogger, where do i get it?
[15:33] <apachelogger> http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/uds-qml.mp4 http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/uds-qml2.mp4 http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/uds-qml3.mp4
[15:33] <apachelogger> actually I should push new code to the repo
[15:34] <apachelogger> ScottK: I might
[15:36] <apachelogger> rbelem: git://anongit.kde.org/scratch/sitter/uds-qml
[15:36] <rbelem> nice
[15:37]  * rbelem clones
[15:37] <apachelogger> that is iteration1 though ... my current working copy is way ahead of it
[15:37] <apachelogger> I'll try to push my new stuff later on
[15:38] <apachelogger> ktorrent has no bzr branch :O
[15:39] <apachelogger> muon neither :O
[15:39] <apachelogger> and where is jonny?
[15:42] <apachelogger> plasma-widget-networkmanagement also does not seem to be in sync
[15:43] <apachelogger> yofel_: your script could also compare what we have in bzr versus what we have in the archive
[15:44] <apachelogger> oh
[15:44] <apachelogger> p-w-nm was renamed it seems S:
[15:45] <ScottK> rbelem: Make sure on -runtime you start with what's in the archive.  It was just uploaded today.
[15:46] <rbelem> ScottK, oki
[15:47] <rbelem> apachelogger, Type ICalParser unavailable
[15:47] <rbelem> apachelogger, module "QtQuick" version 1.1 is not installed
[15:47] <apachelogger> lol
[15:47] <apachelogger> a) you need Qt 4.7.4
[15:47] <apachelogger> b) you need to use the harmattan version
[15:47] <rbelem> ah! ok :-)
[15:48] <apachelogger> the desktop UI does not exist right now
[15:48] <apachelogger> rbelem: in main.cpp change qml/desktop/main.qml to qml/ubuntudevelopersummit/main.qml
[15:48] <apachelogger> that should switch to the harmattan components
[15:50] <rbelem> apachelogger, nice :-)
[15:50]  * rbelem grabs its n9
[15:52] <apachelogger> ScottK: was kamoso demoted yet?
[15:52] <ScottK> apachelogger: No.
[15:53] <apachelogger> cause I have an upload pending
[15:53] <apachelogger> debfx: so, what do we do with native packages and desktop files?
[15:53] <apachelogger> ensure they have the key hardcoded?
[15:53] <ScottK> May as well go ahead.  We'd want the unstripped desktop files for it anyway.
[15:54] <apachelogger> ScottK: I am reasonable certain that kamoso has in source translations
[15:54] <ScottK> Ah.  Good point.
[15:54] <apachelogger> which means we need to rebuild after demotion
[15:54]  * apachelogger puts kamoso down for later upload
[15:56] <apachelogger> hm
[15:56] <apachelogger> kamoso also seems out of sync with archive
[15:56] <CIA-130> [kamoso] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916155652-xhe3munxfokkr5wn * debian/ (12 files in 2 dirs) Initial release (Closes: #577639)
[15:57] <CIA-130> [kamoso] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916155740-p8d2r8dq1gllsf18 * debian/changelog No-change rebuild to stop desktop file stripping (LP: #851953)
[15:58] <ScottK> apachelogger: I'm working on getting it demoted now.
[15:59] <apachelogger> thx
[16:00] <ScottK> BTW, the French thing built.  Thanks for the help.
[16:02] <CIA-130> [konversation] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916160239-poavnu7e3lpamalz * debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs) sync with archive
[16:04] <CIA-130> [konversation] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916160403-7is3lf7m550o530v * debian/changelog No-change rebuild to stop desktop file stripping (LP: #851953)
[16:08] <apachelogger> debfx: debian/rules:6: /usr/lib/kubuntu-desktop-i18n/debhelper/kubuntu.mk: No such file or directory
[16:08] <apachelogger> what happend to that?
[16:09] <ScottK> apachelogger: kamoso should be good to go in ~40 minutes.
[16:09] <apachelogger> kthx
[16:18] <yofel> apachelogger: true, I'll look at adding that once I'm home again (sunday)
[16:29] <apachelogger> yofel: awesome
[16:38] <claydoh> Quintasan: 
[16:39] <claydoh> oops ignore that
[16:39] <claydoh> sorry
[16:42] <apachelogger> Quintasan: \
[16:57] <danimo> apachelogger: ping?
[16:57] <apachelogger> danimo: pong
[16:58] <danimo> apachelogger: got a sec for a backporting problem? seems that hardy doesn't know about dsc's in 3.0 format. any idea what to do to 'downgrade'?
[16:59] <apachelogger> danimo: remove debian/source
[17:00] <danimo> apachelogger: and then?
[17:00] <danimo> apachelogger: (the host I am on is natty)
[17:00] <apachelogger> dpkg-buildpackage -S
[17:00] <danimo> apachelogger: I just want to push it for ppa building
[17:00] <apachelogger> that should spit out a pre-v3 source package
[17:01] <danimo> apachelogger: indeed, tnx
[17:01] <danimo> apachelogger: so let's see :)
[17:02] <apachelogger> danimo: alternatively you can also set debian/source/format's content to "1.0"... I am not sure a hardy envrionment will like that though
[17:02] <apachelogger> chances are it will just not care and work
[17:03] <apachelogger> so if you require mergability you probably should use the format 1.0 option
[17:06] <danimo> apachelogger: I just did a dput upload again. let's see
[17:06] <danimo> apachelogger: there is no immediate feedback on those things. it always has a 5 mins roundtrip
[17:06] <danimo> apachelogger: ah, now :)
[17:21] <apachelogger>    dh_install -a -O--parallel -O--dbg-package=kaffeine-dbg -O--list-missing
[17:21] <apachelogger> cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/debian/presubj': No such file or directory
[17:21] <apachelogger> dh_install: cp -a debian/tmp/debian/presubj debian/kaffeine//usr/share/bug/kaffeine// returned exit code 1
[17:21] <apachelogger> ScottK: have you ever seen that error?
[17:22] <ScottK> Nope.
[17:22] <apachelogger> oh well
[17:22]  * apachelogger unbreaks uds-qml and will look at that build error
[17:31] <apachelogger> rbelem: new code pushed to repo
[17:31] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/55AWJ.png
[17:32] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I have ondisk cache and user-specific ical support now :P
[17:33] <apachelogger> also some problem with object scope, but that was to be expected with all the createComponent() calls \o/
[17:34] <apachelogger> oh, I think I just fixed that
[17:48] <ScottK> apachelogger: What happened to kamoso?
[17:51] <ScottK> apachelogger: Fixing kaffeine?
[17:54] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: looks like you really don't need my help there :P
[17:55] <shadeslayer> Digikam Packaging needs review : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kubuntu-packaging/digikam/revision/33
[17:58] <ScottK> Quintasan could do that.
[18:02] <apachelogger> ScottK: having supper right now
[18:02] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I dislike codebases that is only worked on by one person :P
[18:02] <apachelogger> besides, you are so afraid of ical you really should face your fears ^^
[18:03] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: more like, i'm on a super tight deadline to complete a telepathy feature and read a entire RFC
[18:03] <apachelogger> what RFC do you need to read?
[18:03] <apachelogger> no one ever reads an RFC... just some random impl of it ^^
[18:03] <shadeslayer> 5245
[18:04] <apachelogger> ~rfc 5245
[18:04] <apachelogger> kubotu: fail!
[18:04] <shadeslayer> hehe
[18:04] <apachelogger> uhh
[18:04] <shadeslayer> ~google rfc 5245
[18:04] <kubotu> Results for rfc 5245: 1. RFC 5245 - Interactive Connectivity Establishment (ICE): A Protocol ...: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5245 | 2. RFC 5245 on Interactive Connectivity Establishment (ICE): A ...: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf-announce/current/msg07383.html | 3. Information on RFC 5245: http://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc5245
[18:04] <apachelogger> that is one lovely RFC 
[18:04] <apachelogger> very recommendable read
[18:04] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: did you read the make manual yet? :P
[18:04] <shadeslayer> hahahahaha
[18:05] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i tried to
[18:05] <shadeslayer> i got as far as 15 pages
[18:05] <shadeslayer> then it got boring
[18:05] <apachelogger> weak :P
[18:07] <shadeslayer> not weak, it just got .. boring, i'll take it up again some time, but i last read it 2 weeks ago and it was plain boring
[18:07] <apachelogger> ^^
[18:07] <shadeslayer> yofel: the wifi dongle drops the connection if i transfer large files "{
[18:07] <shadeslayer> :P
[18:09] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: can you explain TURN allocate requests to me?
[18:09] <shadeslayer> if you know about them, because that is going completely over my head
[18:09] <apachelogger> I do not
[18:09] <shadeslayer> ok
[18:10] <shadeslayer> btw see the GSoC ML :P
[18:10]  * apachelogger omnoms while watching will and grace 
[18:10] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: did someone get a prn subscription using their card and google got mail?
[18:11] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: even better, they're discussing if microsoft is doing anything for gsoc
[18:12]  * apachelogger is wondering if the RAF is doing anything for gsoc
[18:16]  * shadeslayer is wondering when his certificates will arrive so he can submit them to the uni
[18:18] <rbelem> apachelogger, it is looking nice now :-)
[18:20] <yofel> shadeslayer: blame ralink
[18:20] <shadeslayer> yofel: hehe :P
[18:20] <shadeslayer> yofel: yer pbuilder is messed up i think
[18:20] <rbelem> apachelogger, it just need wrap the session names
[18:20] <shadeslayer> duplicate ca certs
[18:21] <rbelem> to wrap
[18:21] <yofel> o.O
[18:21] <shadeslayer> yeah, i have no idea how that happened, i was test building kde-runtime and testing libreoffice, saw it then
[18:27] <apachelogger> rbelem: primarily it needs a sensible interface
[18:28] <apachelogger> not quite sure how to do that
[18:28] <apachelogger> perhaps an additionall drill down page
[18:28] <apachelogger> so you have day -> track | room -> event
[18:29] <apachelogger> plus hiding of everything that is past currentDateTime
[18:31] <rbelem> apachelogger, i could ask help from the ux designers
[18:34] <apachelogger> rbelem: uh, that would be great
[18:44] <rbelem> apachelogger, tuesday they will have something :-)
[18:44] <apachelogger> wohooo
[18:44] <apachelogger> rbelem: you are my hero \o/
[18:44] <apachelogger> rbelem++
[18:44] <rbelem> -D
[18:44] <rbelem> :-D
[18:45]  * rbelem hugs apachelogger 
[19:03] <CIA-130> [kaffeine] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916190332-odqj3rot0v94wp1i * debian/ (6 files in 3 dirs) Sync bzr branch with archive to unbreak build
[19:07] <debfx> apachelogger: kubuntu-desktop-i18n is no more
[19:10] <debfx> apachelogger: maybe we need to resurrect it and put it into an own dh addon
[19:10] <CIA-130> [kaffeine] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916190950-4li5ghj2z64ck1nc * debian/kaffeine.docs drop docs file -> no more todo file there
[19:13] <apachelogger> debfx: you could just have emptied the file instead of removing it :S
[19:13]  * apachelogger fixes some of Tonio_'s changelog entries for a change
[19:16] <CIA-130> [kaffeine] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916191528-ymgdbphsor3lwd3z * debian/changelog fix changelog format
[19:18] <apachelogger> ScottK: kamoso good to go up?
[19:18] <ScottK> Yes
[19:18] <debfx> apachelogger: why? dropping an include line is easy enough to fix
[19:19] <apachelogger> except if we need to go back to non-stripping
[19:19] <CIA-130> [kamoso] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916191925-43o2yuk8ib7862am * debian/changelog releasing version 2.0.2-1build1
[19:22] <debfx> apachelogger: which package is that?
[19:23] <apachelogger> debfx: synaptiks I think
[20:46] <BarkingFish> hi guys. Do we know yet if KDE 4.4.7 is safe?  I have updates waiting to go on if it is...
[20:56] <BarkingFish> Just a word to the wise, if you're going hunting bugs on launchpad, be aware that it's not working properly at present.  I'm doing bug searches against oneiric and getting timeout errors.
[20:58] <ulysses> that's typical Launchpad behaviour :)
[20:58] <ulysses> timeout on everything, not just bug searching
[20:59] <BarkingFish> i'm only getting it on bug searches at the moment, nowhere else ulysses - http://imgur.com/5j1tE
[21:20] <bulldog98> apachelogger: maybe tomorrow evening
[21:20] <apachelogger> :)
[21:31] <BarkingFish> bulldog98, what are the congratulations for? :)
[22:13] <ScottK> BarkingFish: We aren't aware of any unsafe KDE upgrades.
[22:14] <BarkingFish> ok, cool. Was just checking, I thought I saw someone the other day having issues with it... maybe not though.
[22:18] <ScottK> There are occasional issues with kdepim upgrades but for new installs, it's pretty safe.
[22:19] <BarkingFish> oh no, this was someone complaining about missing icons and so on.
[22:19] <BarkingFish> i'll see if I can find the conversation, may still be in my scrollback
[22:21] <BarkingFish> myxzptlk. it's not.
[22:21] <BarkingFish> i'm putting the updates on anyway, i'll see how things progress
[22:22] <ScottK> That one turned out to be an upgrade related config error.
[22:25] <BarkingFish> ah, ok
[22:25] <BarkingFish> Well I'm done, i'll be back shortly.
[22:26] <BarkingFish> Oh shoot. My package icon in the toolbar has turned into a warning triangle.
[22:26] <BarkingFish> says "2 messages from the package manager"
[22:28] <BarkingFish> back soon :)
[22:28] <apachelogger> I hear thunder, but there is no rain
[22:38] <BarkingFish> dang me that was quick :)  I just came on with 4:4.7.0 and my network was up before I'd even got into the desktop!