[01:15] * apachelogger cant sleep :( [02:20] sympathies, apachelogger [02:20] although I hope you have drifted off by now [02:40] havent [03:04] Wow. [03:05] It's only 8p and I am tired. [03:05] Might have something to do with getting to bed at 7a [03:13] kubotu: order coffe for DarkwingDuck [03:13] * kubotu slides coffe down the bar to DarkwingDuck [03:13] oh [03:13] I can't even type no more [03:13] kubotu: order coffee for DarkwingDuck [03:13] * kubotu slides coffee with milk down the bar to DarkwingDuck. [03:13] kubotu: actually you should slide me one too [03:17] kubotu: order coffee for apachelogger [03:17] * kubotu slides coffee with milk down the bar to apachelogger. [03:20] This has got to be the dumbest show I have ever watched. [03:20] US TV is soooooo stupid [03:20] I lost IQ points watching it. [03:22] Bugger, I think the planet is broken. [03:53] shadeslayer: so... from looking at this I see 2 options: a) write a lightweight wrapper around libical and staticlink libical and strip symbols we do not use b) write our own impl [03:53] on harmattan there is kcal available, but that is a rather fat lib + so not portable unless included in the software [04:22] Looking to sell me mobile workstation if anyone is interested. [04:23] specs: http://paste.kde.org/122113/ comes with 2nd battery and case. It's a Lenovo ThinkPad W700 [04:24] 1400USD [04:27] dang DarkwingDuck [04:27] * claydoh wishes he had cash [04:28] It works good. I'm just doing a lot of community stuff and it's heavy [04:30] ya, a bit big [04:30] makes my dell seem puny [04:30] cuz it is smaller and slower [04:30] If I don't sell it before then, I'll have it at UDS [04:31] mine cost me 200 bux , i am cheep [04:31] and under-funded [04:31] Yeah, I'm looking at replacing it with a ZaReason [04:31] cool [04:31] But, I have to sell it first for the $$ [04:32] shouldn't be too hard, I dont't think [04:33] I don't think it will. [04:33] I'm hoping to sell it quick so I can have the Zareason before UDS [04:46] * apachelogger broke something :( [04:49] debfx: All your KDE uploads are processed. Please send more. [05:41] debfx: how do you override this : /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/2/policy.mk:24: *** debian_qt_kde.mk usage denied by policy.. Stop. in debian ? [05:42] also, i'm using this for kde-wallpapers ... [05:43] apachelogger: light wrapper around libical, writing our implementation is too much work [05:44] bulldog98_: yofel_ i'm taking up digikam [06:15] shadeslayer: Need akonadi 1.6.1 if you have time. [06:15] * ScottK goes to bed. [06:15] ScottK: will do [06:15] my exams got over today, so have loads of free time [06:16] apachelogger: btw telepathy kde can now store passwords in kwallet [06:16] doesn't work completely, but its a start [06:34] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/akonadi] Rohan Garg * 34 * debian/changelog New upstream bug fix release [06:35] Could someone upload akonadi from bzr ? Build Log : http://paste.kde.org/122131 [07:19] ScottK: SSLv2 patch commited with 2 other patches (including CVE-2011-3193) [07:19] ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem. When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2011-3193) [07:26] btw kde-runtime is ftbfs [07:39] * shadeslayer shakes fist at multiarch [07:46] shadeslayer: you can't override it in Debian [07:48] shucks [07:48] debfx: http://paste.kde.org/122137/ << does that look like a multi arch problem to you? [07:49] i have qtwebkit installed [07:49] "-lQt4::QtWebKit" looks weird [07:50] doesn't look like a multiarch problem [07:50] oh, i thought it was ok to have those colon's there [07:51] yofel_: kdelibs frameworks needs a newer cmake -.- [07:51] we will have fun packaging that for neon :P [07:51] maybe but I've never seen those [07:52] morning [07:57] debfx: manually editing ./obj-x86_64-linux-gnu/extra/libkvkontakte/libkvkontakte/CMakeFiles/kvkontakte.dir/link.txt fixes the issue [07:57] instead of Qt4::QtWebKit i used QtWebKit [08:00] yes, but how is that lib name constructed in cmakelists.txt? [08:01] yeah thats what i'm trying to find [08:01] all i could find was : ./extra/libkvkontakte/libkvkontakte/CMakeLists.txt: ${QT_QTWEBKIT_LIBRARY} [08:10] debfx: extra/libkvkontakte/libkvkontakte/CMakeLists.txt looks just fine imo [08:13] huh, kde-runtime builds just fine locally [08:16] shadeslayer: have you had libqtwebkit-dev installed when starting the build? [08:17] debfx: it failed and then i installed it [08:19] shadeslayer: "make distclean" will fix it [08:22] ok, one other question, /usr/lib/cmake/* should go into dev packages right? [08:24] in general yes, but digikam shouldn't have a dev package [08:24] so I wouldn't install them at all [08:24] nah, its a new library [08:24] LibKVkontakte [08:25] its included in the digikam sources, and some other stuff depends on it [08:25] what depends on it? [08:26] one second, brb [08:30] I thought digikam just embeds a bunch of libs because it has no release management [08:31] debfx: nope, for eg. now it has libkfac [08:31] *libkface [08:33] debfx: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=628019 [08:33] Debian bug 628019 in digikam "new upstream version: 2.0" [Wishlist,Open] [08:33] yes, but either you package libkface in a separate source package and convince digikam to use that or it's an embedded copy of the library without a -dev package [08:34] debfx: seems like currently we ship the headers for libkface in libkface-dev [08:35] so, what you're saying is, libkface should be a seprate project and digikam should depend on it [08:35] bwahahahaaha .... lp oops [08:39] debfx: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/digikam/view/head:/debian/libkface-dev.install [08:48] shadeslayer: I would just include the library in the digikam package and ignore all the dev stuff [08:48] alright [08:48] oh wait, no seprate libfoo package you mean? [08:49] yes [08:49] ah ok [08:49] debfx: do i merge libkface into the digikam package as well? [08:50] and the other libraries as well [09:10] btw : dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libkvkontakte.so.1 needed by debian/kipi-plugins/usr/lib/kde4/kipiplugin_vkontakte.so (ELF format: 'elf64-x86-64'; RPATH: ''). [09:10] i could just include it with the plugin [09:10] debfx: ^ [09:17] i'm off to lunch, will bbl [09:17] cya [09:18] hi guys is it possible to get to know the fingerprint of a gpg key, without having gpg installed? [09:18] shadeslayer: could you paste me the fingerprint of my gpg key? [09:24] bulldog98_work: is it in your launchpad account? [09:25] it is, and his pubkey is also on keyserver.ubuntu.com [09:25] Riddell: yes [09:25] bulldog98_work: your fingerprint = 1D6C 1BFC 92D4 1D90 4E27 70BE 13C2 0989 4305 6E14 [09:26] (I used the pubkey found on launchpad and on keyserver.u.c) [09:26] bambee: I tryed that too [09:27] bambee++ [09:27] http://paste.ubuntu.com/690640/ [09:27] ;) [09:28] just use keyserver.ubuntu.com ? :P [09:42] apachelogger: akonadi-facebook has been uploaded to revu [09:43] shadeslayer: are there embedded libraries that are required by both digikam and kipi-plugins? [09:44] debfx: no, that looks like a library that is only used by the plugin [09:44] not sure tho [09:55] * bulldog98_work has done some businesscard stuff: http://imgur.com/a/2qaJI#MzgnC [09:55] the quality is bad [09:58] http://i.imgur.com/NmCnG.png and http://i.imgur.com/tbOY9.png [09:58] apachelogger, yofel_ ^ [10:03] dude [10:03] bulldog98_work: use the design on the wiki [10:03] much better [10:07] bulldog98_work: theres a bit too much going on with it in the background - wouldnt mind seeing it with less strong colours [10:07] ie. wash it out slightly [10:21] * rbelem pokes ScottK [10:23] he went to sleep iirc [10:24] shadeslayer, hum... he went to bed late 02:15 am [10:26] * rbelem goes to work [10:31] shadeslayer, jussi: I simply put the Wallpaper to the back, I may do an other try [10:31] Was only to see if it looks ok [10:32] shadeslayer: can you paste the look of the card you meen? I´m on MacOS and cant see it [10:32] hold on [10:33] bulldog98_work: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BusinessCards?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=newdesign_businesscard_1.svg [10:33] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BusinessCards?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=newdesign_businesscard_2.svg [10:34] * bulldog98_work even managed to get MacOS to sow wrong colors aso [10:34] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BusinessCards?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=newdesign_businesscard_3.svg [10:34] shadeslayer: but I want a Kubuntu branded one [10:34] oh [10:35] shadeslayer: what programm would you use to create one? LaTeX, Scribus or Inkscape? [10:35] Inkscape [10:36] LaTeX isn't suitable for this, LaTeX is suitable for books and CV's and stuff [10:36] never used Scribus [10:36] * bulldog98_work doesn`t know howto use that good tuts? [10:37] uh ... just install it and launch it, click some buttons and you'll know what to do :P [10:38] shadeslayer: I want a manual, I don´t know anything :P [10:38] shadeslayer: apt-get install scribus [10:38] bulldog98_work: i didn't know how to use inkscape as well, i just started pushing buttons and figured it out [10:39] * bulldog98_work needs an desinger that does a branded Card, so he can modify that [10:39] bulldog98_work: ask sheytan then [10:52] shadeslayer: sheytan isn´t here yet [10:52] :P [10:53] btw whats about kubuntu cloaks [10:53] heh [10:54] !membership | bulldog98_work [10:54] bulldog98_work: Ubuntu Membership means recognition of a significant and sustained contribution to Ubuntu and the Ubuntu community. For more info see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership [10:54] bulldog98_work: there's a link in there somewhere [10:54] rbelem: What? [10:56] scribus = :/ [10:57] bulldog98_work: no kubuntu cloaks, sorry [11:04] fabo: Thanks. [11:05] bulldog98_work: Think of it as an "Ubuntu the project" cloak, not an "Ubuntu the desktop" cloak. [11:08] ScottK: k [11:12] Anyone on amd64 that can try to install libreoffice/oneiric in a clean chroot to see if it installs/needs anything from Universe? [11:12] It's allegedly uninstallable at the moment. [11:22] ScottK: i can have a look [11:22] shadeslayer: Thanks. [11:22] btw, can a source package name differ in Ubuntu and debian? [11:23] apachelogger: Can you upload shadeslayer's akonadi update (so I can approve it) [11:23] shadeslayer: It happens. [11:23] so, how does one file sync requests for such a package? [11:23] Usually if it's packaged in Ubuntu an then later someone packages in Debian and doesn't notice. [11:23] What's the package? [11:24] ScottK: synthesis in debian experimental [11:24] and its libsynthesis in ubuntu [11:24] If they had the same name, why would a sync be appropriate a month before release? [11:24] new bug fix release [11:25] How different are the packages? [11:25] ScottK: like ubuntu vs debian diff? none [11:25] OK. [11:26] i have a build log if you want it [11:26] it's always been sync'd from what i can see [11:26] Then file a sync request for the new package (and say it'll replace the old one), go through the normal sponsorship process, and then after it's in, file a bug asking for removal of the old package. [11:26] alright [11:29] ScottK: http://paste.kde.org/122203/ << looks just fine ( i saw the ca cert's issue in the other builds as well ) [11:29] btw this is a chroot with universe enabled [11:30] Can you try it again without Universe? [11:30] sure [11:32] Thanks. [11:34] shadeslayer: Nevermind. I figured it out. [11:34] The issue I was seeing reported was with a DVD build and those aren't run everyday, so it's an old report. [11:34] Sorry for the distractions. [11:35] ah no problem :) [11:40] bah ... packages.debian.org shows the incorrect info [12:01] ScottK: btw, digikam is being demoted right? [12:02] shadeslayer: Has been. [12:02] So the Universe build-dep is fine. [12:02] alright [12:03] debfx: i've put the library in kipi-plugins-common , is that alright? [12:35] shadeslayer: that's an arch-all package [12:36] debfx: uh ... no .. its arch-any i think [12:37] bah, you're right [12:37] debfx: so, should i chuck it into kipi-plugins instead? [12:38] yes [12:38] alright [12:38] ScottK: what should we do about the kdirwatch patch from kde4libs? apparently no one has tested it and it doesn't affect the oneiric kernel [12:39] debfx: Did we upload it already? [12:39] no [12:39] If not, I'd be inclined to drop it. [12:41] yeah let's drop it, we'll get the fix anyway post-release with kde 4.7.2 [12:50] if there are no objections I'll upload kde-runtime without the active patches [12:54] ScottK: apachelogger: ^ [12:54] is natty already frozen? [12:54] debfx: Yes. At the very least we should do that for now. [12:54] err, not natty :) [12:54] danimo: Yes, but we can get stuff in if it's important. [12:54] 10.10 [12:54] 11.10 [12:54] args [12:54] 11 even. [12:54] (this one goes to eleven) [12:55] ScottK: well, fabo fixed some things in icecc that make it useful in the first place [12:55] ScottK: icecc 0.9.7-3 in sid [12:55] You can request a sync. [12:55] ScottK: I just uploaded it to my PPA to use it on older versions [12:55] ScottK: how? [12:57] Use requestsync. [12:57] It'll file a bug that a sponsor will review. [12:57] (it's in ubuntu-dev-tools) === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [13:37] ScottK: done [13:53] ScottK: 851887 [13:59] danimo: have you tested the package? [14:01] debfx: If you use the sync api to do the sync (assuming you agree with it), it'll hit the unapproved queue where I can do the sync. [14:02] shadeslayer: ScottK: what akonadi update, or rather... where? [14:03] debfx: which packages need uploading? [14:03] apachelogger: new upstream bug fix release [14:03] apachelogger: 1.6.1, see backscroll [14:03] didn't see in backscroll [14:04] apachelogger: everything in main that has desktop files and uses pkg-kde-tools. I don't have a list of packages [14:04] bulldog98: about kubuntu branded business cards .... simply take the ubuntu ones and swap the ubuntu logo for the kubuntu one [14:05] debfx: I think having a list before doing things would have made a lot of sense [14:05] apachelogger: [02:34:56] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/akonadi] Rohan Garg * 34 * debian/changelog New upstream bug fix release [14:05] ah [14:09] apachelogger: I didn't check if shadeslayer noticed, but this fixes 707878, so that ought to be mentioned in the changelog. [14:09] I was hunting after that one when I found the akonadi release ... [14:09] * apachelogger waves fist [14:10] I committed 3 seconds before you wrote that [14:11] you mean uploaded [14:11] [akonadi] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916141140-hbut0lo0f8w4w0hg * debian/changelog New upstream bug fix release (LP: #707878) [14:11] bzr ci [14:12] goes ahead and commits [14:12] you know [14:12] this is beginning to piss me off [14:12] epcially [14:14] hehe [14:16] !find panorama.png oneiric [14:16] File panorama.png found in gallery2, python-guiqwt [14:18] apachelogger: export BZR_DISABLE_PLUGINS=builddeb bzr commmit [14:18] apachelogger: amarok, bluedevil, choqok, k3b, kaffeine, kamoso, koffice, konversation, ktorrent, muon, networkmanagement, partitionmanager, rekonq, skanlite, synaptiks [14:18] * apachelogger thinks build-rdeps is broken [14:19] and quassel [14:19] * apachelogger mass-bugs that [14:20] stuff that needs to be investigated: kcm-gtk, kdesudo, kopete-message-indicator, kubuntu-firefox-installer, kubuntu-notification-helper, plasma-widget-menubar, plasma-widget-message-indicator [14:25] debfx: apachelogger ScottK review needed for digikam : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kubuntu-packaging/digikam/revision/33 [14:26] debfx: skanlite is not in core KDE anymore? [14:26] debfx: networkmanagement is the plasma-widget? [14:28] apachelogger: It never was. It was always extragear (skanlite) [14:28] apachelogger: It is. [14:28] apachelogger and shadeslayer: akonadi update is in. Thanks. [14:28] wohoo [14:29] http://i.imgur.com/n55Xk.png [14:31] kamoso will have to come off the dvd due to digikam demotion [14:32] just don't tell alex :P [14:32] * apachelogger wonders how long it takes launchpad to process a new bug mail [14:33] apachelogger: yes, that's the plasma widget [14:34] My favorite fix in the akonadi update was the one where they changed the mysql timeout from 8 hours to a year. [14:36] the supremacy of high quality software [14:37] To report bugs by e-mail, you need to sign the message with an OpenPGP key [14:37] that is registered in Launchpad. [14:37] * apachelogger waves both fists shouting [14:37] my kontact has been fckd for 2 years, how exactly am I supposed to sign the rubbish mail with anything [14:37] gARAERHBHG [14:42] apachelogger: If it's sent via gmail you don't need to gpg sign it. [14:43] it was [14:46] apachelogger: Can I assign you figuring what's up with the the French language pack? [14:46] Bug 842922 [14:46] Launchpad bug 842922 in kde-l10n-fr (Ubuntu Oneiric) "kde-l10n-fr ftbfs" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/842922 [14:46] debfx: bug 851953 [14:46] Launchpad bug 851953 in synaptiks (Ubuntu) "Rebuild for transition away from desktop file stripping" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/851953 [14:47] ScottK: needs rebuild [14:47] * ScottK retries. === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [14:57] ScottK: bug 849936 ... I think the questions are more whether they are regression from 1.1 [14:57] Launchpad bug 849936 in bluedevil (Ubuntu) "Feature Freeze Exception for bluedevil 1.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/849936 [14:57] afiestas: ^ [14:57] apachelogger: In part. The other part is if the new feature is buggy and will confuse people. [14:57] It seemed from my reading that the DUN stuff was appearing at inconvenient times for some people. [14:59] well [14:59] IIRC it was only that DUN is behaving oddly if the device aint configured yet [15:00] apachelogger: should i start work on that wrapper? [15:00] for libical? [15:00] yus [15:01] first try to incorproate the build system into qmake and link it statically and strip symbols that are not used ;) [15:02] [amarok] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916150249-n6h4ebvgpcdy3bk2 * debian/changelog releasing version 2:2.4.3-1ubuntu2 [15:03] apachelogger: why the need to strip stuff away? [15:03] shadeslayer: mobile apps must not be fat + the fatter the longer it takes to start [15:04] but isn't libical provided on harmattan? or do we want to thin the library even further? [15:05] shadeslayer: what about deployments on symbian? and android? and iOS? [15:05] mind the cute [15:06] shadeslayer: also it appears you disaligned choqok archive and choqok bzr [15:06] bad shadeslayer [15:06] huh? [15:06] * shadeslayer checks [15:06] choqok (0.9.98-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low [15:06] iin bzr [15:07] i didn't even know choqok had a bzr branch @_@ [15:07] first looky looky, then work :P [15:08] aha [15:08] https://lwn.net/Articles/455972/ 42,000 school rollout of Kubuntu [15:08] apachelogger: not entirely my fault, neversfelde is to blame as well :P [15:08] 0.9.98-0ubuntu1 was released, but not updated in bzr === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | Feature Freeze in effect | TODO: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-flavor-kubuntu.html | 4.7.1: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | Congratulations to bulldog98 | 42k schools with Kubuntu: https://lwn.net/Articles/455972/ [15:09] wohoo [15:09] apachelogger: i'll fix0r it [15:10] apachelogger: also, subsequent releases were made but never updated in bzr [15:12] shadeslayer: no [15:12] I am on it [15:12] oh alright [15:13] [choqok] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916151257-qiqi25lo926b5tnp * debian/ (changelog control) * No-change rebuild to stop desktop file stripping (LP: #851953) * Update VCS entries for bzr [15:14] [k3b] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916151438-egtrn3mxq1dv2d31 * debian/changelog No-change rebuild to stop desktop file stripping (LP: #851953) [15:15] apachelogger: please make a post about 4.7.1 [15:15] and the love story goes on :) [15:15] shadeslayer: so, I was thinking... since we do not do anything with the ical other than parse it and build the UI based on it... I think simply downloading the file and storing it as cache would be more than sufficient [15:16] bulldog98: it seems you would be perfect to post about that [15:16] apachelogger: have no time until sunday [15:16] hmm, yeah, but then writing the parser in js is all sorts of pita [15:17] shadeslayer: well, the parser needs be cpp [15:17] and be it only for threading [15:17] ok, then you want to parse the entire thing using just Qt? [15:17] would be an option [15:17] or you manage to break ical into a distributable form [15:18] but really, writing the parser is not that difficult [15:18] apachelogger: well .. i'm just intimidated by writing my own ical parser :P [15:18] i'm sure its possible, i'm just not sure that i can do that [15:18] shadeslayer: look at the drual parser impl [15:18] you cannot go wrong with this ^^ [15:18] haha :D [15:19] i'm going out for dinner in a couple of minutes, will come back and have a look :) [15:19] I´m off now [15:20] one approach would be writing one foreach(line) ... if (line == "foobar:Begin") createNewEvent(); if(line == "foobar:End") endEvent(); parseLine(line); [15:20] didrocks: Can you look at the Debian qt4-x11 repos, grab fabo's security and sslv2 patches and then upload them? [15:20] in parse line you basically only need to split by : [15:21] then insert that into a qmap orso [15:21] not the most performant ical parser, but still better than all the regex in JS [15:22] heh, true [15:22] ScottK: would be on Monday if it can wait by then? (not sure with the beta freeze) I'm really busy with some compiz thingy right now :/ [15:22] ScottK: it's commited in kubuntu packaging [15:22] fabo: Oh. Even batter. [15:22] better. [15:22] excellent, thanks fabo! [15:22] didrocks: Monday is too late I fear. [15:23] apachelogger: ^^^ Can you do it? [15:23] ScottK: I won't be able to test it though, let me look at the changes [15:23] ScottK: I need to apply for ubuntu-dev and I could upload myself ;) [15:23] fabo: sounds better, yeah :) [15:23] fabo: Yes. Please. [15:23] [kaffeine] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916152315-ukqpvb0v1po5ad6w * debian/changelog No-change rebuild to stop desktop file stripping (LP: #851953) [15:23] fabo: btw, I tried to ping you last week about a change in debian/rules to only build documentation if current arch ship the -doc package, interested? [15:24] * rbelem pokes ScottK [15:25] didrocks: I've seen the changes but I think debfx has commited a modification on top [15:25] rbelem: What? [15:25] :-) [15:25] fabo: yeah, a way better version :) [15:26] didrocks: it's included in kubuntu packaging. I'll cherry-pick for next upload to Debian. 4.7.4-1 is mostly ready on git.debian.org [15:26] ScottK, some active patches in kde-runtime are in the KDE/4.7 now [15:27] rbelem: OK. We had to strip the runtime stuff out today just to get something built. [15:27] rbelem: it would be better if all of them were [15:27] fabo: good news! thanks :) [15:27] apachelogger, they will move everything to a sepated lib [15:27] :-) [15:27] alright, cya tomorrow [15:28] ScottK, apachelogger, i will make the changes to the pkg removing that split and cherrypick the patches :-) [15:29] same for kdelibs [15:29] rbelem: I was more thinking about the activitymanager patches really ^^ [15:31] apachelogger, i think this will go to a different lib afaiu [15:31] rbelem: did you see the uds mobiel app yet? [15:32] apachelogger, not yet [15:32] apachelogger, where do i get it? [15:33] http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/uds-qml.mp4 http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/uds-qml2.mp4 http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/uds-qml3.mp4 [15:33] actually I should push new code to the repo [15:34] ScottK: I might [15:36] rbelem: git://anongit.kde.org/scratch/sitter/uds-qml [15:36] nice [15:37] * rbelem clones [15:37] that is iteration1 though ... my current working copy is way ahead of it [15:37] I'll try to push my new stuff later on [15:38] ktorrent has no bzr branch :O [15:39] muon neither :O [15:39] and where is jonny? [15:42] plasma-widget-networkmanagement also does not seem to be in sync [15:43] yofel_: your script could also compare what we have in bzr versus what we have in the archive [15:44] oh [15:44] p-w-nm was renamed it seems S: [15:45] rbelem: Make sure on -runtime you start with what's in the archive. It was just uploaded today. [15:46] ScottK, oki [15:47] apachelogger, Type ICalParser unavailable [15:47] apachelogger, module "QtQuick" version 1.1 is not installed [15:47] lol [15:47] a) you need Qt 4.7.4 [15:47] b) you need to use the harmattan version [15:47] ah! ok :-) [15:48] the desktop UI does not exist right now [15:48] rbelem: in main.cpp change qml/desktop/main.qml to qml/ubuntudevelopersummit/main.qml [15:48] that should switch to the harmattan components [15:50] apachelogger, nice :-) [15:50] * rbelem grabs its n9 [15:52] ScottK: was kamoso demoted yet? [15:52] apachelogger: No. [15:53] cause I have an upload pending [15:53] debfx: so, what do we do with native packages and desktop files? [15:53] ensure they have the key hardcoded? [15:53] May as well go ahead. We'd want the unstripped desktop files for it anyway. [15:54] ScottK: I am reasonable certain that kamoso has in source translations [15:54] Ah. Good point. [15:54] which means we need to rebuild after demotion [15:54] * apachelogger puts kamoso down for later upload [15:56] hm [15:56] kamoso also seems out of sync with archive [15:56] [kamoso] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916155652-xhe3munxfokkr5wn * debian/ (12 files in 2 dirs) Initial release (Closes: #577639) [15:57] [kamoso] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916155740-p8d2r8dq1gllsf18 * debian/changelog No-change rebuild to stop desktop file stripping (LP: #851953) [15:58] apachelogger: I'm working on getting it demoted now. [15:59] thx [16:00] BTW, the French thing built. Thanks for the help. [16:02] [konversation] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916160239-poavnu7e3lpamalz * debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs) sync with archive [16:04] [konversation] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916160403-7is3lf7m550o530v * debian/changelog No-change rebuild to stop desktop file stripping (LP: #851953) [16:08] debfx: debian/rules:6: /usr/lib/kubuntu-desktop-i18n/debhelper/kubuntu.mk: No such file or directory [16:08] what happend to that? [16:09] apachelogger: kamoso should be good to go in ~40 minutes. [16:09] kthx === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:18] apachelogger: true, I'll look at adding that once I'm home again (sunday) [16:29] yofel: awesome [16:38] Quintasan: [16:39] oops ignore that [16:39] sorry [16:42] Quintasan: \ [16:57] apachelogger: ping? [16:57] danimo: pong [16:58] apachelogger: got a sec for a backporting problem? seems that hardy doesn't know about dsc's in 3.0 format. any idea what to do to 'downgrade'? [16:59] danimo: remove debian/source [17:00] apachelogger: and then? [17:00] apachelogger: (the host I am on is natty) [17:00] dpkg-buildpackage -S [17:00] apachelogger: I just want to push it for ppa building [17:00] that should spit out a pre-v3 source package [17:01] apachelogger: indeed, tnx [17:01] apachelogger: so let's see :) [17:02] danimo: alternatively you can also set debian/source/format's content to "1.0"... I am not sure a hardy envrionment will like that though [17:02] chances are it will just not care and work [17:03] so if you require mergability you probably should use the format 1.0 option [17:06] apachelogger: I just did a dput upload again. let's see [17:06] apachelogger: there is no immediate feedback on those things. it always has a 5 mins roundtrip [17:06] apachelogger: ah, now :) [17:21] dh_install -a -O--parallel -O--dbg-package=kaffeine-dbg -O--list-missing [17:21] cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/debian/presubj': No such file or directory [17:21] dh_install: cp -a debian/tmp/debian/presubj debian/kaffeine//usr/share/bug/kaffeine// returned exit code 1 [17:21] ScottK: have you ever seen that error? [17:22] Nope. [17:22] oh well [17:22] * apachelogger unbreaks uds-qml and will look at that build error [17:31] rbelem: new code pushed to repo [17:31] http://i.imgur.com/55AWJ.png [17:32] shadeslayer: I have ondisk cache and user-specific ical support now :P [17:33] also some problem with object scope, but that was to be expected with all the createComponent() calls \o/ [17:34] oh, I think I just fixed that [17:48] apachelogger: What happened to kamoso? [17:51] apachelogger: Fixing kaffeine? [17:54] apachelogger: looks like you really don't need my help there :P [17:55] Digikam Packaging needs review : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rohangarg/kubuntu-packaging/digikam/revision/33 [17:58] Quintasan could do that. [18:02] ScottK: having supper right now [18:02] shadeslayer: I dislike codebases that is only worked on by one person :P [18:02] besides, you are so afraid of ical you really should face your fears ^^ [18:03] apachelogger: more like, i'm on a super tight deadline to complete a telepathy feature and read a entire RFC [18:03] what RFC do you need to read? [18:03] no one ever reads an RFC... just some random impl of it ^^ [18:03] 5245 [18:04] ~rfc 5245 [18:04] kubotu: fail! [18:04] hehe [18:04] uhh [18:04] ~google rfc 5245 [18:04] Results for rfc 5245: 1. RFC 5245 - Interactive Connectivity Establishment (ICE): A Protocol ...: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5245 | 2. RFC 5245 on Interactive Connectivity Establishment (ICE): A ...: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf-announce/current/msg07383.html | 3. Information on RFC 5245: http://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc5245 [18:04] that is one lovely RFC [18:04] very recommendable read [18:04] shadeslayer: did you read the make manual yet? :P [18:04] hahahahaha [18:05] apachelogger: i tried to [18:05] i got as far as 15 pages [18:05] then it got boring [18:05] weak :P [18:07] not weak, it just got .. boring, i'll take it up again some time, but i last read it 2 weeks ago and it was plain boring [18:07] ^^ [18:07] yofel: the wifi dongle drops the connection if i transfer large files "{ [18:07] :P [18:09] apachelogger: can you explain TURN allocate requests to me? [18:09] if you know about them, because that is going completely over my head [18:09] I do not [18:09] ok [18:10] btw see the GSoC ML :P [18:10] * apachelogger omnoms while watching will and grace [18:10] shadeslayer: did someone get a prn subscription using their card and google got mail? [18:11] apachelogger: even better, they're discussing if microsoft is doing anything for gsoc [18:12] * apachelogger is wondering if the RAF is doing anything for gsoc [18:16] * shadeslayer is wondering when his certificates will arrive so he can submit them to the uni [18:18] apachelogger, it is looking nice now :-) [18:20] shadeslayer: blame ralink [18:20] yofel: hehe :P [18:20] yofel: yer pbuilder is messed up i think [18:20] apachelogger, it just need wrap the session names [18:20] duplicate ca certs [18:21] to wrap [18:21] o.O [18:21] yeah, i have no idea how that happened, i was test building kde-runtime and testing libreoffice, saw it then [18:27] rbelem: primarily it needs a sensible interface [18:28] not quite sure how to do that [18:28] perhaps an additionall drill down page [18:28] so you have day -> track | room -> event [18:29] plus hiding of everything that is past currentDateTime [18:31] apachelogger, i could ask help from the ux designers [18:34] rbelem: uh, that would be great [18:44] apachelogger, tuesday they will have something :-) [18:44] wohooo [18:44] rbelem: you are my hero \o/ [18:44] rbelem++ [18:44] -D [18:44] :-D [18:45] * rbelem hugs apachelogger [19:03] [kaffeine] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916190332-odqj3rot0v94wp1i * debian/ (6 files in 3 dirs) Sync bzr branch with archive to unbreak build [19:07] apachelogger: kubuntu-desktop-i18n is no more [19:10] apachelogger: maybe we need to resurrect it and put it into an own dh addon [19:10] [kaffeine] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916190950-4li5ghj2z64ck1nc * debian/kaffeine.docs drop docs file -> no more todo file there [19:13] debfx: you could just have emptied the file instead of removing it :S [19:13] * apachelogger fixes some of Tonio_'s changelog entries for a change [19:16] [kaffeine] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916191528-ymgdbphsor3lwd3z * debian/changelog fix changelog format [19:18] ScottK: kamoso good to go up? [19:18] Yes [19:18] apachelogger: why? dropping an include line is easy enough to fix [19:19] except if we need to go back to non-stripping [19:19] [kamoso] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110916191925-43o2yuk8ib7862am * debian/changelog releasing version 2.0.2-1build1 [19:22] apachelogger: which package is that? [19:23] debfx: synaptiks I think [20:46] hi guys. Do we know yet if KDE 4.4.7 is safe? I have updates waiting to go on if it is... [20:56] Just a word to the wise, if you're going hunting bugs on launchpad, be aware that it's not working properly at present. I'm doing bug searches against oneiric and getting timeout errors. [20:58] that's typical Launchpad behaviour :) [20:58] timeout on everything, not just bug searching [20:59] i'm only getting it on bug searches at the moment, nowhere else ulysses - http://imgur.com/5j1tE [21:20] apachelogger: maybe tomorrow evening [21:20] :) === DarkwingDuck is now known as DWonderly === DWonderly is now known as DarkwingDuck [21:31] bulldog98, what are the congratulations for? :) [22:13] BarkingFish: We aren't aware of any unsafe KDE upgrades. [22:14] ok, cool. Was just checking, I thought I saw someone the other day having issues with it... maybe not though. [22:18] There are occasional issues with kdepim upgrades but for new installs, it's pretty safe. [22:19] oh no, this was someone complaining about missing icons and so on. [22:19] i'll see if I can find the conversation, may still be in my scrollback [22:21] myxzptlk. it's not. [22:21] i'm putting the updates on anyway, i'll see how things progress [22:22] That one turned out to be an upgrade related config error. [22:25] ah, ok [22:25] Well I'm done, i'll be back shortly. [22:26] Oh shoot. My package icon in the toolbar has turned into a warning triangle. [22:26] says "2 messages from the package manager" [22:28] back soon :) [22:28] I hear thunder, but there is no rain [22:38] dang me that was quick :) I just came on with 4:4.7.0 and my network was up before I'd even got into the desktop! === drdanz is now known as woshibot === woshibot is now known as waswoshibot === waswoshibot is now known as drdanz