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[01:00] <volty> hi, accented characters (french) in file names drive me crazy and I can't remember how I solved this in my previous installation, at least hints pls
[01:00] <volty> (they show up as question marks on black background - whether in konq or in konsole)
[01:19] <LordCrc> hi, is there some knobs i can tweak to make strigi work harder?
[01:20] <LordCrc> it's hardly using any cpu and seems to be taking it's own sweet time indexing
[02:54] <shane2peru> wow, pidgin just started eating 100% cpu??? that is odd.
[02:54] <shane2peru> any thoughts?
[02:59] <LordCrc> bug?
[03:00] <LordCrc> now, strigi, is it supposed to work, or just take cpu time and disk space? :)
[03:29] <valorie> LordCrc: right-click on the strigi symbol > Configure file indexing
[03:30] <valorie> yes, it's supposed to index your files' metadata
[03:30] <LordCrc> ok, so what can i use to search file contents?
[03:30] <LordCrc> thats what id like
[03:32] <LordCrc> i thought this was strigi's work, but it's not working at all for me, so :/
[03:32] <LordCrc> it should work in dolphin right? click on find, toggle "contents" and off you go?
[03:33] <LordCrc> actually, it's kinda working
[03:33] <LordCrc> seems its not indexing all files
[03:33] <LordCrc> that's a bummer, and i only see ways to exclude files, not include
[03:34] <LordCrc> that kinda makes the whole thing kinda pointless for me
[03:34] <LordCrc> :(
[03:37] <valorie> !strigi
[03:37] <ubottu> Services to index files for fast searching include: Beagle (front-ends: beagle, catfish, gnome-main-menu, mozilla-beagle for !GNOME; kerry, kio-beagle for !KDE; beaglefs for !CLI) - Tracker (tracker-search-tool, libdeskbar-tracker for GNOME; tracker-utils for CLI) - Strigi (strigi-applet, strigi-client for KDE, strigi-utils for CLI) - Kat (for KDE) - Pinot (and pinot-applet for GNOME) - Doodle (for CLI)
[03:37] <valorie> huh
[03:37] <valorie> I didn't know very much of that at all
[03:37] <valorie> so I guess what I would say is that strigi is a work in progress
[03:41] <LordCrc> ok, if i disable strigi, will dolphin do "brute force" search in file contents?
[03:41] <LordCrc> ie actually find the stuff
[03:44] <LordCrc> there's so much i'd like to like in kubuntu... but it's not always that easy ;)
[03:48] <LordCrc> ah yes it did
[03:48] <LordCrc> well thats a nice workaround then
[03:48] <LordCrc> slower than i'd like but
[03:48] <LordCrc> at least it finds the correct files....
[03:51] <LordCrc> thanks though :)
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[04:37] <john192> can i have a link to the bug on launchpad for KDE 4.7.1
[04:38] <john192> i was going to subscribe to it but i can't seem to find the one coresponding to backports
[04:40] <john192> bulldog98_: perhaps you know of where i might find it
[04:42] <tsimpson> what bug?
[04:43] <john192> i would have thought there was a progress one
[04:43] <john192> i know they'll be done when they're done but yeah
[04:43] <tsimpson> well I see 4.7.1 in Oneiric already
[04:46] <john192> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3118175.0 ah this kind of answers my qustion
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[04:56] <LordCrc> since when should a pesky build failure stop a release?!
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[05:17] <SubCoolEnt> ok- i need help, someone have a guide on howto setup vnc? these ubuntu guides are crashing
[05:34] <SubCoolEnt> anyone? please?
[05:36] <well_laid_lawn> !vnc
[05:36] <ubottu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
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[08:16] <zvin> test
[08:21] <mkquist> zvin: test back
[08:21] <zvin> - -哦
[08:34] <szal> !cn | zvin
[08:34] <ubottu> zvin: 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw
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[10:12] <kbroulik> will the email notifier in kubuntu be patched to accomodate the newest changings in systemtray behavior, i. e. it autorides whenever possible?
[10:18] <szal> autorides?
[10:18] <kbroulik> autohides, sorry
[10:19] <kbroulik> I have all my system tray icons set to automatic, the only icons that reside there atm are the volume control (always there), apper (new updates) and … the message indicator
[10:19] <kbroulik> I think with 4.8 it should autohide if there is no new message instead of autohiding only if there is no application running (which is always the case her, either kmail (which is not shown anymore o.O) or quassel or kopete)
[10:20]  * szal doubts that any 4.8 stuff will be backported to 4.6
[10:21] <kbroulik> I'm not talkinga bout backports ;) I mean when 4.8 then arrives
[10:21] <kbroulik> on Oneiric+1 or Oneiric backports
[10:21] <szal> give that another 5 months, that's pure speculation atm
[10:23]  * szal should upgrade to 4.7.1
[10:29] <DaemonFC> more stuff to set back to the way KDE defaults to?
[10:29] <DaemonFC> super :)
[10:29] <DaemonFC> my time is worthless
[10:29] <DaemonFC> more indicators please! :D
[11:23] <student> hi
[11:23] <student> man
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[11:58] <chirag_d_gr8> due to power save in wlan0, i am unable to get high speed wifi connection when not connected to ac power. how to get it working without power source?
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[12:28] <BluesKaj> Hey all
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[13:26] <Guest7164> i have accedently deleted a ext4 partition, is there a application to recover the deleted partition
[13:52] <hippo> hello it seems like after i installed kubuntu i lost an hour of battery life it used to say 3 with windows now its only 2 is this normal if not is there way to get my battery to last longer
[14:02] <hippo> hello it seems like after i installed kubuntu i lost an hour of battery life it used to say 3 with windows now its only 2 is this normal if not is there way to get my battery to last longer
[14:06] <noaXess> hey
[14:07] <noaXess> what to restart if up key doesn0t work? instead of complete reboot?
[14:07] <noaXess> left/right, down are working, just up key not :(
[14:08] <well_laid_lawn> thats weird noaXess try restarting X
[14:08] <BluesKaj> hippo, kmenu>apps>settings>system settings>power management
[14:09] <noaXess> well_laid_lawn: i won't restart X.. then i need close and save all my work.. and i have about 20 apps open..
[14:09] <noaXess> i just restart if i really must ;).. but maybe there is another trick
[14:10] <well_laid_lawn> that's no good - you're sure there's nothing caught under the key
[14:10] <well_laid_lawn> funny that it's just the one key
[14:10] <well_laid_lawn> not funny haha type funny tho
[14:12] <hippo> and is there a fix for when i put my comp into suspend were it wont freeze a blank screen i have an asus k52f
[14:14] <noaXess> well_laid_lawn: well.. it's funny.. i had it before... hm... and a restart wa a solution..
[14:15] <well_laid_lawn> noaXess: try   xev   in a terminal and see if the key responds
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[16:19] <KingSphinx> I found time to do a clean reinstall of Ubuntu this morning, and went with Kubuntu 64-bit. So far, it seems everything works wonderfully... everything, that is, except sound in Flash (I installed it through the sevencomputers PPA). Anyone know how to get sound working in 64-bit Flash?
[16:20] <KingSphinx> If it helps, I have sound routed through my Logitech USB headset, and I can hear everything else just fine, just no sound in Flash.
[16:48] <BluesKaj> KingSphinx, the sevenmachines 64 bit flash ppa is no longer the the best methos ..afaik the the repos now contain the latest flash . just install from your package manager or with sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer in the terminal
[16:52] <BluesKaj> KingSphinx, I just discovered this 2 days ago ... nothing to be concerned about
[16:53] <winut> hi guys. can you install 2 phonon backend together or do they conflict? thanks
[16:54] <winut> my dad installed the phonon vlc backend and when he selected it in amarok, it crashed straight away. using 10.10 kubuntu
[16:54] <winut> he still has the gstreamer in there also
[16:55] <winut> it crashed with an alsa error from terminal launch
[16:56] <winut> he has an emu 0404 pci card
[17:01] <winut> any ideas? i know you lot like you av :-)
[17:02] <James147> winut: phonon backends should not conflict.. and you can select an order of prefence to use in phonons settings (in system settings)
[17:02] <winut> any ideas why it might crash then (vlc backend) ?
[17:02] <winut> thx btw
[17:03] <BluesKaj> winut, you choose the backend in phonon backend tab with prefer or defer
[17:03] <James147> winut: not sure.. though I would check phonon to see which you are actually using
[17:03] <BluesKaj> and don't forget to choose apply :)
[17:03] <winut> maybe this need to be set in system setting as default before it can take precedence
[17:03] <winut> ?
[17:04] <winut> ill get my dad to check this later on, thanks
[17:04] <KingSphinx> Nope, tried the regular Flash plugin provided by the repos, didn't work.
[17:05] <BluesKaj> winut, yes system settings>multimedia>phonon backend
[17:05] <winut> i user the ppa on 64bit and it works perfect :-)
[17:05] <winut> thanks BluesKaj :-)
[17:05] <BluesKaj> winut, you're on 11.10 right ?
[17:06] <winut> yeah
[17:06]  * James147 always found the flash in the repos worked fine on 64bit
[17:06] <James147> ^^ though sometimes reinstalling it is needed
[17:07] <winut> so you don't need that then now for flash on 64bit with this version?
[17:07] <James147> (apt-get install --reinstall ...)
[17:07] <winut> seems a bit odd :-)
[17:07] <BluesKaj> I lost the ppa in 11.10 , it got stripped in an update/upgrade and gpg error came up when I tried to reinstall the sevenmachines 64bit flash , so i installed from the repos ...it works fine now
[17:08] <KingSphinx> So the regular Flash plugin in the repos would've worked fine? Man... when I tried it after uninstalling the SevenComputers version, Firefox was telling me I needed to install Flash.
[17:09] <BluesKaj> KingSphinx, you have to delete the sevenmachines ppa and update then install from the repos
[17:10] <lich> hi
[17:10] <KingSphinx> Does Kubuntu come with a tool for managing PPAs or do I still have to edit sources.list to do stuff like removing a PPA?
[17:11] <BluesKaj> KingSphinx, /etc/apt/sources.list.d , open it with dolphin in the run command box
[17:12] <BluesKaj> alt+f2 , kdesudo dolphin  /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[17:14] <winut> BLueskaj: i got around the gpg error by removing the apt entries afterwards then closing and re opening repositories to add the ppa in again then it worked
[17:14] <winut> using synaptic
[17:15] <winut> This seemed to happen on all ppas i added
[17:15] <BluesKaj> yes adding to the repos in package managers works as well , removing them the same way worl=ks too if they're listed
[17:16] <winut> i'm glad you mentioned the gpg error tho, any idea if that can be fixed?
[17:17] <winut> seems to happen on all ppa's when you add them to synaptic, the ppa gpg doesn't take unless you do that workaround i described
[17:18] <BluesKaj> yes winut the ppa has to be removed , you won't need it after the app is installed anyway ...ppas are temporary fixes til the actual developed apps are ready for primetime  and the official repos
[17:19] <winut> i use them all the time and they worked fine in ubuntu, this is a bug :-)
[17:19] <winut> like i say, ppas will work if you do that workaround, not talking about flash here
[17:20] <winut> even the one you had problems with would work as well
[17:20] <BluesKaj> I'm pretty sure mine got stripped out during an update
[17:20] <winut> not that you need it in this instance
[17:20] <winut> yeah, it gets greyed out
[17:20] <winut> or deselected
[17:20] <BluesKaj> it wasn't even listed in synaptic or the sources.list.d
[17:21] <winut> you should see it in synaptic
[17:21] <BluesKaj> nope wasn't there
[17:21] <winut> ok, well we were using ubuntu before
[17:21] <winut> and just wiped / and installed kubuntu
[17:22] <winut> best way :-)
[17:23] <winut> kubuntu 10.10 is 100% more stable than ubuntu 10.10, but this maybe more down to ubuntu using a different nvidia driver?
[17:24] <winut> so anyone else hear using 10.10? apart from BluesKaj ?
[17:25] <BluesKaj> winut, no the gnome desktop /unity and other gnomes have problems
[17:25] <BluesKaj> 11.10 here not 10.10
[17:26] <winut> sorry, my bad! meant 11.10. BluesKaj, can you try another ppa just to see if you can add one ok? thanks
[17:26] <winut> you might be able to confirm this bug for me
[17:27] <BluesKaj> winut, what bug ?
[17:27] <winut> the ppa gpg bug
[17:27] <winut> in synaptic
[17:28] <winut> i was trying to explains, affects all ppa adding
[17:30] <winut> i don't just use ppa's for temporary fixes, but software too, like nightly firefox and lmms, moblock etc
[17:30] <OerHeks> winut, which ppa ? maybe it is not available for 11.10 yet
[17:31] <winut> ok, let me find one for you to try, trust my, it affects all of them
[17:31] <winut> ok, how about this for a test -> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa
[17:31] <OerHeks> i can imagine, if you run the beta, not all ppa's are up to date.
[17:32] <winut> even it it says oneiric?
[17:33] <OerHeks> when i select oneiric, it says newer version available.
[17:33] <winut> ok, so it worked ok?
[17:34] <winut> no gpg errors adding that to your sources after refresh?
[17:34] <winut> i add them in repositiories in synaptic
[17:35] <winut> i tried muon but it almost killed my install
[17:36] <winut> see, they do have the right ppa for 11.10 -> https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash
[17:36] <winut> so you shouldn't get any errors
[17:37] <OerHeks> hard to say what is wrong, dit you try ask in #Ubuntu+1 , that channel is for oneiric support.
[17:37] <winut> :-)
[17:38] <winut> sure, i'm in there now
[17:40] <mokush> any idea how I could update a plasmoid I installed from source?
[17:40] <winut> all of them :-)
[17:41] <winut> sorry, i scrolled up a bit accidentally! lol
[17:43] <OerHeks> mokush, if you build yourself, you need to download & build updates yourself too.
[17:43] <mokush> OerHeks: so I should just download the new source and recompile, re-install? and it will install over the old one, therefore update?
[17:44] <OerHeks> mokush, yes and yes
[17:44] <mokush> OerHeks: sounds good, thanks!
[17:44] <mokush> another question, does anybody keep an up2date package of http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Icon+Tasks?content=144808 in some ppa?
[17:47] <OerHeks> mokush, i run kde 4.7.1 from backports
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[17:52] <GordonGR> Hallo! I installed Kubuntu 11.04 yesterday but I have no sound. I tried calling a module as this HOWTO https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto suggests, but it didn't work. Any help please?
[17:59] <mokush> OerHeks: I'm also running 4.7,  but icon-tasks is not included with it.
[17:59] <KingSphinx> Alright, got sound in Flash working, as well as my mic in Skype :D
[18:01] <KingSphinx> 64-bit really is no harder to install/use than 32-bit...
[18:01] <asfyxia> GordonGR, if you click on the speaker icon on your panel, you'll see a 'mixer' below. If you click on that, check if the PCM (in the middle) shuffle is below (that's standard). If you shuffle that to the top, do you have sound then?
[18:02] <GordonGR> Did already. Volume is fine, both in kmix and alsamixer.
[18:02] <GordonGR> speaker is plugged in as well :)
[18:03] <GordonGR> nikos@russell:~$ cat /proc/asound/card0/codec* | grep Codec
[18:03] <GordonGR> Codec: VIA VT1708S
[18:03] <asfyxia> Ok, just checking ;-)
[18:04] <GordonGR> and according to /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/ALSA-Configuration.txt.gz , my card should correspond to auto BIOS setup (default)
[18:07] <GordonGR> so I did what the guide said, called modprobe with the appropriate command, rebooted but didn't work
[18:16] <GordonGR> Hallo! I installed Kubuntu 11.04 yesterday but I have no sound. I tried calling a module as this HOWTO https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto suggests, but it didn't work. Any help please?
[18:16] <transformers> try mixer ?
[18:17] <GordonGR> volume is fine. It's the modules I need help with.
[18:19] <winut> do you need firmware?
[18:20] <GordonGR> I don't think so. It's just an Intel onboard.
[18:20] <winut> what version of asla you got?
[18:20] <winut> alsa, sorry
[18:22] <winut> check las tpost here -> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/164708
[18:30] <GordonGR> thanks, winut
[18:30] <winut> no problem, did it help? thanks
[18:30] <transformers> Hey my sound is work but never work volume control weel on notebook
[18:30] <transformers> in 11.04 Kubuntu
[18:31] <GordonGR> I'll tell you in a moment, winut
[18:31] <winut> maybe thats a kernel setup thing?
[18:31] <winut> :-) hopefully
[18:34] <winut> transformers: what laptop?
[18:34] <GordonGR> winut:  I'm waiting for a response in freenode #ubuntu, I'll try your thought in a while. It seems it'll work though, my card is the same.
[18:34] <winut> yeah, and its a recent post :-)
[18:35] <transformers> toshiba a 200 23k it`s strange in UBUNTU all is worked
[18:36] <winut> GordonGR: i'm trying to get help in alsa atm for something else :-)
[18:36] <winut> ok, ill have a look into it :-)
[18:36] <GordonGR> Hehe, cool. The card worked on Debian before, so it should work on natty too! :)
[18:37] <winut> nattys old man :-)
[18:37] <winut> but safer!
[18:37] <winut> anyone here use evolution mail on kubuntu?
[18:38] <GordonGR> not any more!
[18:38] <winut> my dad wanted to try kmail but he already updated his mail to a later version, so no import support for that
[18:38] <winut> but he is on 11.10
[18:39] <winut> he will have to wait for kmail to update this
[18:39] <GordonGR> Ah, he just needs to copy his mbox to some location
[18:39] <winut> but it changed in the last version
[18:39] <GordonGR> of what? evolution?
[18:40] <winut> now its v3 http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/evolution
[18:40] <winut> yeah
[18:40] <GordonGR> Ah, I see... sorry, no idea
[18:40] <winut> np, i'll ask on +1
[18:45] <transformers> toshiba a 200 23 k
[18:52] <bkovacs> Kubuntu 11.4 is 735MB out of 7985MB to much memory usage?
[18:53] <GordonGR> Gotta go for dinner, I'll try it later winut. Thanks!
[18:53] <winut> no prpblem, enjoy your grub :-)
[18:53] <ryan_> bkovacs, what are u running?
[18:54] <bkovacs> Just installed Kubuntu 11.04 yesterday and upgraded KDE to 4.6.5. Added a few apps, like GIMP, Chrome, Thunderbird, KDE Games, that's about all.
[18:55] <ryan_> ohh..  u upgraded the desk top eh?
[18:55] <bkovacs> Yeah according to the Kubuntu website. Just added the ppa
[18:56] <ryan_> normal charge is maybe .3 to .4 g memory, but when u start adding shells on top of shells the memory usage will go up
[18:57] <bkovacs> What should I do. I have 8GB RAM
[18:58] <ryan_> if u have 8 gig...  don't do anything
[18:58] <bkovacs> OK Thanks
[18:59] <ryan_> windows 7 at idol with out any thing running uses 1.13 gig  to run the desk top
[18:59] <ryan_> I usually leave the desk top upgrades to the updates and upgrades though!!  then ur charge will run normal
[19:04] <N9NU> can someone take a look at my pastebin info. I am having a slight problem with the GRUB GUI option within my menu.1st file. It doesn't show up....I get the text version only.  The GUI modes does kick in after the selection however
[19:05] <N9NU> http://pastebin.mandriva.com/24054
[19:05] <N9NU> i am using 11.10
[19:06] <Pici> N9NU : Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[19:07] <N9NU> oh. sri
[19:07] <winut> what is kde's version of compiz called? thanks
[19:08] <OerHeks> winut i think compiz.
[19:09] <winut> so it compiz a good tech?
[19:09] <winut> i read this today, quite interesting but surely outdated -> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_desktop_vitals&num=2
[19:10] <winut> shows some of kde's weaknesses, but you cant have it all as they say :-)
[19:11] <pedahzur> I'm using KMail 1.13.6.  Under "Options" in the compose window, "Automatic spell checking" is checked. However, when I misspell words, not underline appears under them.  The misspelled words *are* caught if I do a manual spell check (Tools -> Spelling...)  Ideas?
[19:11] <winut> actually, this is the first page -> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_desktop_vitals&num=1
[19:12] <OerHeks> winut, that is old, there are other issues with the 3.1 kernel > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_31_power_regress&num=1
[19:14] <winut> omg! thats really bad OerHeks
[19:14] <winut> 80% power increase :-)
[19:14] <OerHeks> well, i guess because it is so big, it should be easy to find.
[19:15] <OerHeks> but this should be talked about in offtopic
[19:15] <winut> ok, sure :-)
[19:28] <OerHeks> pedahzur, i can't find any other setting too, Kmail
[19:53] <winut> OerHeks: do you know a split screen irc client? with replay on load feature? thanks
[19:55] <Orcris> Hi.
[19:56] <pedahzur> Orcris: hello
[20:06] <t0ken_> no puedo ver mi estado de la bateria alguien puede ayudarme?
[20:07] <U238Willy> !es
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[20:18] <ucciga> Salve a tutti
[20:19] <BarkingFish> Buonasera, ucciga :)
[20:19] <ucciga> Buonasera a Te BarkingFish
[20:20] <BarkingFish> hai bisogno di aiuto?
[20:21] <ucciga> beh sto cercando di orientarmi
[20:25] <ucciga> Ciao Barkin Fish devo scappare, ci si rivede
[21:12] <ric> r
[21:49] <markit> I've a plasmoid "folder view" that shows files in my desktop folder. But I can also drag a icon from K menu in the "desktop" outside it. Where will be put? Is not in desktop folder
[21:49] <markit> so seems that the "desktop" is not related with "desktop folder", or am I missing something? (kde 4.7 kubuntu 11.04)
[21:50] <pedahzur> If you drag something into the "Desktop" folder view, it should end up in ~/Desktop
[21:51] <pedahzur> If you drag something into the "Desktop" folder view, it should end up in ~/DesktopSorry, markit:
[21:51] <pedahzur> whoops...not my day.
[21:51] <pedahzur> markit: If you drag something into the "Desktop" folder view, it should end up in ~/Desktop
[21:52] <sea4ever> Hey all!
[21:52] <markit> pedahzur: have you tried?
[21:52] <markit> pedahzur: is not what I've asked
[21:52] <markit> pedahzur: if you drag on the desktop, but OUTSIDE desktop folder view, where does it end up?
[21:53] <markit> it does not go in ~/Desktop, that makes no sense to me
[21:53] <pedahzur> markit: Ah, outside the folder view...didn't catch the verbiage.
[21:53] <markit> np
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[21:54] <pedahzur> markit: Looks like it goes in a config file somewhere. For me, it becomes a little plasmoid object (gives me the X, config, etc. when I hover over it.)
[21:54] <markit> pedahzur: yes, but really breaks the "Desktop mental association"
[21:55] <markit> people in M$ os are used to drop icons on the desktop, and they find them in Desktop folder
[21:55] <markit> here we have a useless desktop folder and desktop view
[21:55] <pedahzur> markit: Kind of...you have to keep in mind that the "Desktop" in KDE 4 is no longer ~/Desktop
[21:55] <markit> I'm confused... I don't love M$ usage, but I do love logical and easy to grasp aproach, this is not
[21:56] <pedahzur> The Desktop folder view is kind of a hold-over. I don't *think* you'll have ~/Desktop in a new KDE4 install.  it's a hold-over, I believe.
[21:56] <markit> if you run a live cd of Kubuntu 11.04, you have a ~/Desktop
[21:57] <pedahzur> Hmm...
[21:57] <markit> and also has a different icon in dolphin than normal folders (and I don't understand why)
[21:57] <pedahzur> Here's what I found in ~/.kde: share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc:Url=file:///usr/share/applications/gimp.desktop
[21:57] <markit> so you have a "special" Desktop folder, that is not realted with real desktop
[21:58] <markit> pedahzur: so as you suspected is a plasmoid... isn't so confusing?
[21:59] <pedahzur> markit: A little, yeah.
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[22:00] <sea4ever> I'm interested in contacting Canonical, any ideas?
[22:02] <pedahzur> sea4ever: http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/contact
[22:02] <sea4ever> Thanks
[22:03] <markit> btw, I had the experience that the "Search and lunch" activity does not show the plasma-desktop used usually by netbooks, but the normal one... any idea?
[22:03] <pedahzur> markit: Search and lunch? Never heard of that. ;)
[22:03] <markit> hehehe, I've to improve my english
[22:03] <markit> or I'm too hungry now so...
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[22:05] <pedahzur> markit: Oh, 'launch'? :)
[22:05] <pedahzur> Are you talking about the filter on the start menu, or the Alt-F2 launcher?
[22:06] <markit> in kde 4.7 you have a icon near K menu, or in any case with upper right "don't remember it's name" you can run the activity chooser
[22:06] <markit> then you use the "search and launch"
[22:09] <pedahzur> markit: Not familiar with that...or at least not by that name.
[22:11] <BarkingFish> are others here running 4.4.7 without issue?
[22:11] <BarkingFish> I have the updates waiting, but I've not added them yet.
[22:11] <markit> BarkingFish: 4.7? or really 4.4.7?
[22:12] <BarkingFish> sorry
[22:12] <BarkingFish> 4:4.7.0
[22:13] <markit> I'm running 4.7 in kubuntu 11.04 and seem to work pretty well
[22:13] <BarkingFish> it doesn't bork anything up?
[22:13] <markit> I've installed in my netbook, laptop, 2 LTSP servers at school and a pair of other spare computers
[22:14] <Kimlaroux> Google ain't helping:  Anyone knows how to separately configure two mice in kde/X?
[22:14] <markit> but I've not tested everything in every condition
[22:14] <markit> BarkingFish: my feeling is that works well
[22:14] <BarkingFish> markit, I'll take your word for it, and get these 118 updates on
[22:15] <markit> BarkingFish: hope update process will work flawlessy :)
[22:15] <BarkingFish> so do I :)
[22:15] <markit> and hope you have another PC to connect to internet for help, just in case
[22:16] <BarkingFish> Not right now I don't.  My laptop is with a friend of mine who needs to have net connection while his laptop is in for repair
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[22:52] <markit> BarkingFish: did it worked?
[22:52] <BarkingFish> yep
[22:52] <markit> so good :) enjoy 4.7
[22:52] <BarkingFish> it's faster than I imagined.  Upgrades usually slow stuff down where I migrated from.
[22:52] <markit> sleep time, see you :)
[22:52] <BarkingFish> I was connected to the net about 8 seconds *before* my desktop loaded
[22:53] <BarkingFish> bbfn markit
[22:58] <fluke_> hello
[22:58] <fluke_> may i ask a question?
[22:59] <fluke_> seem to have an issue with a xserver setting in setting up my duel screens
[23:00] <fluke_> does anyone have the genral idea of how to set it up correctly im using a nvida gtx 580
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[23:00] <fluke_> both monitors are the same resolution and same model the issue is I can'tdrag one window unto the other
[23:02] <pedahzur> fluke_: Are the monitors mirroring each other? Or is your desktop truly two screens wide?
[23:02] <fluke_> it not mirroring as of now
[23:02] <fluke_> and i can drag my mouse to the other monitor but not drag a screen
[23:03] <pedahzur> fluke_: Seeing as your are in #kubuntu, I assume you're running KDE? What version?
[23:03] <fluke_> 11.04
[23:04] <pedahzur> if you go into System Settings -> Display and Monitor what does it say?
[23:05] <fluke_> only shows one monitor
[23:05] <pedahzur> What is the resolution on that monitor?
[23:06] <fluke_> 1920x1080
[23:06] <fluke_> is there a remote control option i could do with u
[23:07] <fluke_> so u could guide me and have a better view
[23:07] <pedahzur> Hmm...it sounds like it is seeing both monitors as one: but you say you can move your mouse from one screen to the other?
[23:07] <fluke_> i dont want you to do it i need to know if i did something wrong
[23:07] <fluke_> yes
[23:07] <pedahzur> fluke_: No, there is no easy remote control option.
[23:07] <fluke_> teamviewer
[23:07] <fluke_> ?
[23:09] <pedahzur> fluke_: Interesting...never heard of it.
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[23:09] <fluke_> yea i use it to trouble shoot my windows pc's
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[23:11] <pedahzur> fluke_: That might help, but won't let me see the whole issue, as it sounds like the monitor config thinks you have one screen.
[23:12] <pedahzur> fluke_: Ok, I have teamviewer up.  Let's give it a try.
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