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lifelesshmm, the iranian firewall change on the 14th  might explain the user having trouble02:32
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mrevellHi08:06
bullgard4http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bugs writes: "59 New bugs" and "90 Open bugs". What are "new bugs"?08:30
wgrantbullgard4: Bugs where the status is "New".08:32
bullgard4wgrant: Ah! Thank you very much for explaining.08:32
wgrantLP is about to go down for a couple of minutes of DB upgrades.08:33
sagacidid lp just die?08:36
nigelbYes08:36
shadeslayerhi, when i try to access https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/digikam i get  OOPS-2085AP41408:36
ubot5https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=2085AP41408:36
nigelbA few minutes08:36
sagacirighteo08:36
wgrantshadeslayer, sagaci: We'll be back in about 30 seconds.08:36
shadeslayerah alright08:36
wgrantJust a database upgrade, with a pretty ugly error page for now.08:36
shadeslayerhehe :)08:36
shadeslayeri'm guessing this is due to the new ' small and fast upgrades ' policy08:37
wgrantThis new upgrade process is a week old today, so we are still working stuff out.08:37
wgrantYep.08:37
wgrant2 minutes of downtime, instead of 90.08:37
wgrantAnd we're back.08:37
shadeslayerright :)08:37
sagaciso in a nutshell, it's shorter but more frequent downtimes than previously08:38
wgrantHopefully next week we will acquire a better error page.08:38
wgrantAnd we'll get the downtime under a minute in the next month or so.08:38
bullgard4wgrant: The downtime was very short indeed.08:44
wgrantbullgard4: 2-3x longer than we are aiming for, but 45x better than it used to be :)08:45
bullgard4:-) Thank you.08:45
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deryckadeuring, I'll take IRC now.14:11
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adeuringderyck: thanks!14:11
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cirwinI'm trying to package a mercurial-based project, and wondering whether I should do the development of the debian directory in mercurial, and then import the branch with my changes already; or import the base project and make changes in bzr? (I have no experience with either version control system)17:51
flacostecirwin: both can work really18:01
flacostecirwin: but18:01
flacosteif you want to use the udd tools18:01
flacosteyou might be better off working in bzr18:01
flacostesince they are bzr-based anyway18:01
cirwinok18:02
cirwinI'd quite like to use the source-packages feature of launchpad to build the same package for multiple versions18:02
lamontNeeds building on shedir (armel panda) <-- when did launchpad start doing that?19:37
abentleylamont: I don't think anyone's around who could answer that.  It's Saturday for Antipodeans.19:55
dobeyabentley: how does one register a distribution on launchpad btw?20:06
abentleydobey: I think you have to ask sinzui.20:06
dobeyok20:06
dobeysinzui: ^^ do you know?20:07
abentleydobey: (I mean, I think you have to request sinzui to register the distribution)20:07
dobeyah right, ok20:08
sinzuidobey, you ask at answers.launchpad.net/launchpad where you will be quiz about needs one. distros are broken for most use cases, so only admins can create them20:08
sinzuidobey, Unless you are very special, it cannot have packages or translations. you cannot fully configure the bug-traker too20:09
sinzuiwe are considering deleting all but a handful of the distros in the db since they are unhelpful20:09
dobeysinzui: ok. my use case is that i want to be able to have a distribution for ubuntu one PPAs, where each series is one of the PPAs (stable, beta, nightlies, etc), and so we can manage bugs for our PPA packaging, separately from upstream bugs, and separately from ubuntu bugs20:10
dobeyyeah, i'm fine with that. a distribution just seems to be the best way to do what i want; though i am certainly open to alternatives as well :)20:10
sinzuithat is a new use. I am sure you can push branches to each package if it matches an ubuntu package name20:11
sinzuiYou are going to use recipes to do the build?20:11
dobeywe are using recipes to do the builds yes20:12
sinzuiI think that will work.20:12
dobeythe builds are already well managed. i'm looking for a better way to manage the bugs20:12
sinzuiI think you want someone to fix the old bug about reporting bugs in archives20:13
dobeyoh?20:13
sinzuiWhen I say fix. I mean implement, and when I say someone, I mean lots of people20:14
sinzuidobey, i am sure an admin can set of a distro for you.20:16
dobeyok, i'll see about that on monday i think. thanks :)20:16
sinzuidobey, to be clear about the bug reporting case. you must link a branch to each package your want to report bugs against. It is not possible to report a bug without an official package set either by a branch or by soyuz20:19
dobeysinzui: link as in like the links on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libubuntuone for example?20:22
sinzuidobey, correct20:23
dobeysinzui: btw, how the hell do i edit those links, so that i can change it from trunk to a stable branch, when we make a stable branch for the release?20:25
sinzuidobey, https://bugs.qastaging.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit-class-browser/+filebug is an example url where it is impossible to file a bug because no package was ever published and there is not official branch20:25
sinzuidobey, use the enigmatic yellow pencil icon next to "trunk"20:26
sinzuion that same page20:27
dobeysinzui: there is no such icon for trunk. i am only seeing it next to non-trunk series20:27
sinzuidobey, I see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libubuntuone and edit and remove icon next to20:28
sinzuiUbuntu One ⇒ libubuntuone ⇒ trunk20:28
dobeysinzui: i don't. :(20:29
sinzuiare you anonymous? any logged in user can change packages20:29
dobeyno, i'm logged in20:29
dobeyin fact, oddly enough, i do see them on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-client20:30
pinterfaceApparently the secret to getting launchpad to report something other than "your page was stale" after filling in the captcha for the forgot-password form is to enable referers.20:30
sinzuidobey, this is very odd, I see them on libubuntuone and I see trunk, stable-0-10, stable-0.4, and stable-lucid20:31
sinzuiwhich one do you want me to choose?20:31
dobeysinzui: for oneiric it should be trunk20:31
dobeysinzui: for maverick stable-0-4, and for natty stable-0-1020:32
sinzuiokay and it is because the DSP page shows the development series20:32
dobey?20:33
sinzui1. I also see the edit and remove icons next each Ubuntu version in the list at the bottom of the page: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libubuntuone20:34
sinzuiI can visit each distroseries source package and also see the icons:20:35
sinzuihttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/libubuntuone20:35
sinzuihttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/libubuntuone20:35
sinzuihttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/libubuntuone20:35
dobeyright; but i don't see the icons in any of those places on libubuntuone20:35
dobeyi'd be happy if it gave me an OOPS instead of nothing, at least :)20:36
sinzuiThis is very odd, not one shows you icons for libubuntuone20:36
sinzuimaybe this is a cache issue? I will change the package links and you can verify if you see the new series I linked too20:38
dobeyok20:38
sinzuiI think the series are fixed on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libubuntuone20:38
dobeyi see the series change for maverick20:38
dobeybut still no icons20:39
dobeyi *DO* see icons next to lucid series, but not next to any of the others20:39
sinzuidobey, which browser. This could be a sprite issue. The browser does not allocate enough information for the background so the link is there in the page, but it was not rendered20:40
dobeyfirefox20:40
dobey6.0.220:41
dobeyand 7.020:42
dobeyit also happens on my oneiric laptop, as well as my natty workstation20:42
sinzui:( webkit browsers are usually the issue. I see this fine in firefox 7 and the oneiric version of chrome20:42
dobeyhah, and in chrome on natty, i don't see any of them20:43
sinzuiThese link also have hidden text to work around the webkit issue.20:43
dobeybut also in chrome they don't show up on ubuntuone-client20:43
sinzuiThe monkey god does not want you touching this package. Were you bad in a previous life. Did you covet someone's parrot?20:44
dobeyhaha20:44
dobeyit gets better20:44
* sinzui thinks unity is going belly up again20:45
dobeyi get the exact same behavior in chrome on natty now, logged in as me; but logged in as my bot user is when it didn't show any of the icons; but as me it behaves the same as firefox there20:45
dobeywtf.20:46
dobeyand midori does the same thing20:47
sinzuidobey, my previous experience with missing icons found bad lp css to be the primary cause, and bad markup as a secondary. I really thought we fixed most of these issue a year ago.20:47
dobeyif i knew of anything else to help debug, i would do it20:48
sinzuimidori/epiphany/chrome/safari/webkit are one group, firefox/gecko are another. Opera is still it's own world.20:48
sinzuidobey, I have another machine I can play with. I think I need to review changes to lp's css rules. I have not been following changes20:49
dobeywell, sometimes chrome/safari are different from the others, because they have weird proprietary hacks in there too20:50
dobeysinzui: maybe you need to take out the .dobey {} rule ;)20:50
lamontabentley: no worries21:06
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