[00:07] hi! Today something strange happened with Oneric. It's like I have no unity shell anymore [00:07] any help would be appreciated [00:08] oops Oneiric... 11.10 [00:09] jdobrien: yes some major bugs have been created today [00:09] oh ok [00:09] i mean...not ok [00:09] :) [00:10] but this is a 'it's not you, it's me' part of my ubuntu relationship [00:10] i'll give 2D a try [00:11] jdobrien: accordinding to natewiebe this is a workaround....... I fixed it be downgrading lightdm and liblightdm-gobject-1-0 to 0.9.5-0ubuntu2 [00:14] robin0800, 2D works [00:41] I'm too tired... time for bed. nite [01:08] * gnomie is having pot pie [01:09] got a weird issue in gnome3....in the bottom left it doesnt show 4 workspace screens side by side...it just shows one [01:10] you mean unity? [01:11] naw im using the gnome classic look [01:12] that's not default option [01:12] so? [01:14] http://imageshack.us/f/822/201109141948211366x768s.png/ <---thats how it used to look like [01:14] now suddenly it looks like this http://imageshack.us/f/851/201109152111471366x768s.png/ [01:14] (workspace switcher in the bottom right) [01:31] Hello, is anyone experiencing the 'Not Authorized' window while trying to mount something? [01:34] BrandonBolton: yes new bug introduced today and the not able to shutdown [01:35] robin0800, has there been a work around so far? Well, for mounting the drives? [01:36] Just upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 now when I boot up I get this error message: There is a problem with the configuration server (/usr/libconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 32512) Can anyone help me with this? [01:37] luis_, Did you do a clean install? Did you run all of your updates? [01:37] BrandonBolton: accordinding to natewiebe this is a workaround....... I fixed it be downgrading lightdm and liblightdm-gobject-1-0 to 0.9.5-0ubuntu2 [01:38] robin0800, I shall try this right now. [01:38] I think so, I ran all updates [01:40] luis_, You think so? How did you install 11.10? In terminal type sudo apt-get update, then after that type sudo apt-get upgrade. What does it say when you do the upgrade? [01:41] I will do it now [01:41] robin0800, I am on the launchpad.net page for lightdm, which ones do I download? [01:43] BrandonBolton: don't know have not done this I expect it will be fixed quickly so have not bothered [01:44] robin0800, That's true, I can always use Ubuntu One for now and/or email. Thanks anyways. [01:48] It says: The following packages will be upgraded: Friendly-recovery upstart 2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 596 not upgraded Need to get 7,242 B/295 kb of archives. After this operation 45.1 kb of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [01:50] luis_, That means not all of your updates have been installed. [01:51] So I will say yes? [01:51] luis_, yes. [01:51] Thanks for your help [02:29] i tried upgrading to Ubuntu version 11.10 but its been stuck on this process for the past 2 hours (Restarting services possibly affected by the upgrade: gdm: reloading...done. cups: stopping....starting. ) and at the top under status it says Unpacking: libpam0g [02:30] and suggestions? [02:30] i dont wanna turn off and it borks my system [02:54] Is there a way to disable the guest account? Plus, run a update. The usb mount issue has been fixed. [02:56] brandon_, you have to create a file /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf with allow-guest=false under the [SeatDefaults] [02:57] escott: Thank you, that helped out. I will do it right now. :) [02:59] brandon_, if you find any documentation on lightdm let me know [03:01] escott: I will let you know if I do. Thank you for the help. :) === sagaci_ is now known as sagaci [05:08] good something [05:08] hello, i have problem on 11.10, my init.d dont start on boot when i do update update-rc.d hdparm default [05:09] dont start my script of course [05:10] how can i install initrd to /boot after installed the OS but without a separate /boot partition? grub should boot from the boot partition not from root [05:10] but i have links in /etc/rc* [05:21] grub-install --boot-directory=/tmp/mntroot/boot /dev/sdo [06:40] There's a couple of things that really irk me. [06:40] * hibernate doesn't work. [06:41] * lightdm looks and behaves very awkward on a multimonitor setup [06:42] * XFCE seems to ignore my settings (wallpapers) [06:42] * gnome terminal too: it shows the menu bar on startup, even though I tell it not to. [06:42] I think that's it for now. [06:42] (At least I got what I wanted: A brand new compiler! :) [06:49] jMCg: btw, have you read the channel topic? [06:53] I'm pretty sure at the time I joined the channel I must've been 4 hours overdue for bed. [06:55] vega-: I'm just not sure if any of those are bugs. Well... lightdm being awekward doesn't sound like a bug, sounds more like my opinion. The other 3 do sound like regressions. [06:57] w00t \o/ [06:57] ubuntu-bug xfce -> xfce doesn't exist [07:05] is anyone having problems with external hard-drives not appearing? [07:10] Okay, so it's a problem in xfce4-settings, overriding the settings from xfdesktop4 [07:10] Peddy: which desktop? [07:10] jMCg, gnome shell [07:11] Peddy, you look in the home panel? [07:35] Temperature is up and fan is doing it's best.. weird.. CPU is low. === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson [07:58] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/+bug/851645 xfce ignores my settings. [07:58] Ubuntu bug 851645 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "xfce4-settings is overriding settings from xfcedesktop" [Undecided,New] [08:10] Not quite sure where to submit the temperatur thingy to... [08:10] And how to put "Fan is spinning like it's getting out of fashion", when the system is not loaded. [08:16] Okay.. why the heck was nautilus running? [08:18] What is oneconf-service and what does it do? [08:18] What is dconf-servce, what does it do? Why does it run? [08:19] What is goa-daemon.. I guess I can keep that up for quite some time. [08:26] Okay... what is launching nautilus and why? [08:33] And why is gnome-screensaver running? [08:33] i had a error W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168e-2.fw for module r8169 [08:33] Peter_bilt: is it missing? Can you find it? [08:34] apt-file search /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168e-2.fw [08:36] ait its updating apt-update [08:36] nothing found [08:39] Peter_bilt: http://sprunge.us/hAIR [08:44] i've found rtl8168d-1.fw and .rtl8168d-2.fw [08:44] but not the e [08:46] Peter_bilt: then it's possibly missing :) [08:47] i tried to find that here [08:47] http://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/romieu/linux-firmware.git [08:47] but the link is broken [08:48] someone tried to install the nvidia driver with 3.1 kernel? [08:49] kernel org is down, but how long.... [08:50] until they fix it. [08:52] so padevchooser was removed. I have multiple pulseaudio servers (including an openwrt box). What's now the preferred way for fast device switching? [08:55] http://packages.debian.org/sid/firmware-realtek [08:57] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1765526 treffer this may be relevant [08:58] i dont have any treffer card afaik, its a realtek [08:58] Peter_bilt, that was meant for the user treffer not the card of that name [08:58] ah sorry i was a little paralyzed by gnome [08:59] bazhang: I tried paprefs, it does not allow me to change the settings... [09:00] treffer, what about pavucontrol [09:01] bazhang: doesn't show the remote devices as it's disabled (and controls grayed out) in paprefs [09:02] !find paman [09:02] Found: paman [09:02] the package "padevchooser" is missing in 11.10. is there a place to read up why it is not in the repos? [09:02] !info paman [09:02] paman (source: paman): PulseAudio Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4-1ubuntu2 (oneiric), package size 90 kB, installed size 560 kB [09:02] treffer, perhaps paman [09:03] bazhang: negative. But it at least shows that zeroconf is not autoloaded [09:04] treffer, okay, will keep checking, seems an issue lots of folks are running into [09:04] you know what could be useful? apport script to install and add debugging symbols to report. with user permission of course [09:05] Hi everyone, I installed the beta ubuntu 11.10 and I have a problem with the terminal, it doesn't appear when I launch it... It's like a completely transparent window. I can tip on it, click and stuff, but I can't see anything except for the mac-like bare unity is using for everything now on the top left corner... can someone help me ? [09:05] file a wishlist bug gnomie [09:09] do i have to add some tags to this bug so that the right people will see it? or is everything ok with that bug-report? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/padevchooser/+bug/851695 [09:09] Ubuntu bug 851695 in padevchooser (Ubuntu) "padevchooser is missing in Ubuntu 11.10" [Undecided,New] [09:23] ok [09:23] that firmware module was positive [09:23] so now i got no display unfnordunately [09:44] ok it works with gfx and all [09:49] ha, ugprade from 11.04 to oneiric: the upgrade has aborted. your system could be in an unusable state. a recovery will run now (dpkg --configure -a). [10:06] hello! after yesturday updates I'm unable to mount any additional HDDs (some ntfs some btrfs) [10:06] before updates everything was okay. [10:07] where's the problem? [10:09] MechanisM: error-messages? [10:10] yep like Unable to Mount Not Authorized. [10:10] MechanisM: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /media/foobar ? [10:11] you didnt forget the sudo? [10:11] I'm mounting just by clicking on nautilus [10:11] it's always worked [10:13] in nautilus i see available hdds to mount click on it and it was mounted untill yesterday updates.. [10:16] Is 11.04->11.10 via apt broken at the moment? It failed when I tried it in a virtual machine yesterday. [10:16] tasslehoff: worked 30 min ago [10:19] iceroot: thanks for the info. [10:40] tasslehoff: failed for me an hour ago or so [10:40] 12:50 < vega-> ha, ugprade from 11.04 to oneiric: the upgrade has aborted. your system could be in an unusable state. a recovery will run now (dpkg --configure -a). [10:41] more specifically: Exception during pm.DoInstall(): E:Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python-pyatspi2'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) [10:41] does anyone know what is the equivalent of /etc/gdm/Init/Default in the new desktop manager? [10:42] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11253447 [10:43] vega-: that was the one I got, though I didn't check the details. [10:44] thanks for the fix [10:44] np [10:56] forgive my ignorance but what desktop manager is used by oneiric? [11:01] not really sure what desktop manager refers to .. but isn't it unity by default? [11:02] vega-: funtime yes that is the case [11:03] tasslehoff: ah ok i was just upgrading a lubuntu system so i dont run into that problem [11:15] what is the name of the mail-applet used in 11.10 which is also supporting thunderbird? [11:16] in lxde (dont know if it is the same in gnome) [11:39] it used to be gdm in the older versions [11:43] does unity 3d work without the nvidia proprietary drivers, ie. does oneiric default install nowadays use some open drivers or something? [11:43] just thinking because this is completely unusable now.. [12:00] Is anyone using postgresql with oneiric? [12:00] !anyone | chakra888 [12:00] chakra888: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll. [12:00] ubottu: Will surely do :) [12:00] funtime: lgdm [12:00] chakra888: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [12:01] The postgresql is updated to version 9.1 but the pgadmin is still 1.12 version which has been tested against 9.0 [12:02] chakra888: is it working with 9.1? [12:02] It works but gives a warning while connecting to 9.1 [12:02] how do i log into gnome3? [12:02] The version compatible is 1.14 which is still in RC stage [12:02] i get nothing to choose from at the login screen [12:02] chakra888: i guess the best is to open a bug about this issue [12:03] chakra888: "ubuntu-bug pgadmin" [12:03] iceroot: Thanks. I will report a bug for this once a final release of pgadmin3 is done [12:04] chakra888: you should open it now to that the case is reported [12:06] hi [12:06] iceroot: I will do it now as after searching I didn't find any similar bug there [12:07] I still can't log into gnome shell, I always get the same error message : Failed to load session "gnome" [12:07] (on a fresh install) [12:07] (but I did all the updates) [12:12] how do i log into gnome3 in oneiric? [12:13] remoteCTRL: if you have it installed I Imagine its the same as in ubuntu 11.04 , [12:13] once you selecet your username from the login menu, down in the corner , you can select what desktop environment you want [12:13] remoteCTRL: afaik there's no "gnome3" option but either gnome shell or unity .. [12:14] tomodachi: well that was what i was imagining, but gnome3-session is installed, and i get no shell chooser at login [12:14] vega-: so how do i get the gnome3 shell? [12:14] install gnome-shell and choose "gnome" at login .. [12:14] geeez... [12:14] hahaha [12:14] ok, gimme a sec [12:15] remoteCTRL, it doesn't wor for me :-( [12:15] chakra888: thats good [12:15] vega-: as a matter of fact you were right, there really was the session and the core installed but not the shell... [12:16] maxagaz: tell u in a sec whether it does for me... [12:17] remoteCTRL, but I'm trying with amd oneiric in a virtual box, perhaps it's linked (?) [12:18] maxagaz: yeah, didn't work for me in virtualbox either [12:18] well it gives me "failed to login session gnome" [12:18] i don't think it works under virtualbox at all.. [12:18] and i have it on a esxi virtual machine [12:18] remoteCTRL, same for me [12:18] (i had the same error) [12:18] meaning mvware not virtualbox [12:19] vmware even [12:19] geeez... [12:19] i am having a really hard time befreinding with unity... [12:20] ya this is not too good... [12:20] and unity in oneiric is just about as stable as plutonium [12:20] we are sorry, blabla has crashed, would you like to help improve ubuntu by sending a crash report? [12:21] while blabla is just ebout every application that i have open for more than 2 minutes [12:21] naissssss [12:21] yes, just all kinds of things crashing by themselves, even when not doing anything just minding my own business.. [12:21] exactly [12:21] this dont look to good... [12:27] iceroot: Bug filed #833824 [12:28] Hey all [12:30] hi guys, i installed oneiric yesterday and it is looking good. Yet i have a problem: Is there a reason that the users and group ui can not be used to modify anything? The unlock button is disabled... Is that still in development? [12:34] and why does about:config not work anymore??? [12:34] how do i decrease the icon size in the launcher? [12:39] morning all; gotta question about powerpc and 11.10 [12:40] in alt mode it is unable to find the cdrom and I cannot find the kernel object called ide-scsi [12:41] this is on a older MacMini [12:41] in livecd mode after install completes and it reboots the host its unable to boot just get blinking folder icon [12:46] ok [12:48] try fedora 15 [12:48] start from cd again [13:05] does anyone here use PowerPC arch? [13:06] donofrio, I believe there is an #ubuntu-powerpc channel not sure it is for newer macs though [13:06] this is older mac with newer ubuntu (-: [13:06] 11.10 [13:07] I'm wondering why the Alt installer cannot find the cdrom [13:07] and why the livecd cannot boot properly after an successful install [13:07] donofrio, then try the #ubuntu-powerpc channel ,, they would have more resources for this [13:10] what does the google account integration do? [13:13] nm [13:30] it just displays the folder icon blinking after the bootup chime [13:30] )-: [13:36] upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10 i got this error message: Exception during pm.DoInstall(): E:Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python-pyatspi2'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) [13:37] python-pyatspi2 isn't even installed [13:37] the upgrade seems to have failed [13:37] what should i do now? [13:38] I've seen that b4 [13:39] try apt-get update && apt-get disto-upgrade -y -f [13:39] is my system still in a usable state? if i reboot will it all fail? [13:39] where in the install it the error? [13:40] donofrio: presumably you mean apt-get dist-upgrade ? [13:40] yah with -y and -f [13:43] I just want to give a quick shout out to anyone in here that has been working on oneric... it looks amazing [13:43] the new login screen is gorgeous [13:44] Ubuntu has had the functionality down for a long time... I am extremely pleased to see it getting some "form" thrown on top of that "function" [13:45] donofrio: [13:45] Errors were encountered while processing: libpam0g [13:45] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [13:47] hmm, tried it again and: [13:47] E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'util-linux'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) [13:48] rog, errors with libpam would be more concerning. you probably dont want to do anything that would lose your root terminal === cryptk is now known as cryptk|offline [13:49] escott: ok, that's somewhat of a relief, but it does mean (i think) that i can't upgrade to 11.10, right? [13:50] rog, you've pulled the trigger now, you have to complete the upgrade [13:50] ok, i was worried about that [13:50] so... how? [13:51] i'm slightly tempted just to nuke the entire system and start again from scratch. [13:51] which would be a pain. [13:51] rog, you have to keep trying to hammer on apt-get update; upgrade; dist-upgrade; and --fix-broken until it goes through [13:52] why all the apt-get updates? surely the package index files aren't changing that quickly? [13:53] rog, ~20 a day [13:53] rog, that is 20 or so new packages (and thats just my system) [13:55] ok [13:55] now a new question: Most services that use PAM need to be restarted to use modules built for this new version of libpam. Please review the following space-separated list of init.d scripts for services to be restarted now, and correct it if needed. [13:56] what's the correct answer to that? [13:57] probably best to restart the services [13:57] which ones though?! [13:57] doesn't it list them? [13:57] prompt is: Services to restart for PAM library upgrade: [13:57] nope [13:57] go with default if it's blank leave it blank. [13:58] guess i'll just try none, yeah [14:01] well, that failed several times, but it carried on regardless. x fingers. [14:02] rog: you have backups for your important data right? [14:09] * wrtp was formerly known as rog [14:10] but the upgrade process seems to have killed my network connection [14:10] so on a different machine now [14:10] can someone post a screenshot of what unity looks like now? [14:11] i saw one related to the new version of USC, which piqued my interest === chris|| is now known as chris| [14:23] ok, so apt-get dist-upgrade has now completed, apparently without errors. [14:23] is there anything i should do now before i try rebooting? [14:25] various relevant files (e.g. /etc/lsb.release, /etc/issue) seem to indicate that the system is now upgraded [14:27] hi guys, i installed oneiric yesterday and it is looking good. Yet i have a problem: Is there a reason that the users and group ui can not be used to modify anything? The unlock button is disabled... Is that still in development? [14:41] ok, just rebooted into oneiric. logged in ok, but two boxes popped up: [14:41] wrtp, dist-upgrade just upgrades existing files, not the OS [14:41] "Sorry, the package "libpam0g 1.1.3-2ubuntu1" failed to install or upgrade [14:41] BluesKaj: oh. [14:42] BluesKaj: how do i upgrade the OS then? [14:42] the other one: "Sorry, AT SPI Registry closed unexpectedly" [14:44] wrtp, sudo do-release-upgrade -d , but make sure you a regular update/upgrade first , and any ppas you've added should be disabled or commented in sources.list with a# [14:44] BluesKaj: ok, i'll try that [14:48] although i've no idea which ppas i've added [14:49] BluesKaj: do-release-upgrade says "no new release found" [14:49] i guess that means the OS *has* been upgraded, right? [14:49] wrtp, sudo do-release-upgrade -d [14:50] you need the -d for developement release [14:50] that's what i did (although without the sudo 'cos i was already root) [14:50] which is 11.10 [14:50] how can i tell which version of the OS i've got installed? is /etc/issue definitive? [14:51] you said do-release-upgrade [14:51] yeah, but i actually ran do-release-upgrade -d [14:52] ok, when you quote your commands make sure their exact [14:52] sorry [14:54] wrtp, lsb_release -a , will tell your OS version [14:54] BluesKaj: it says 11.10 [15:00] oops I mean they're exact ..I'd better be exact as well :) [15:02] wrtp, run an update , upgrade , to see if that libpam0g 1.1.3-2ubuntu1 will install [15:13] hmm after updates I can't open not only external hdds, but even usb flash drives.. what to do? [15:13] I can't even avacuate files to other drive to reinstall [15:58] Hi. How can I install 11.10 on a usb? [16:00] !usb | faryshta [16:00] faryshta: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [16:00] pendrivelinux doesn't support 11.10 iceroot [16:01] faryshta: there is no difference between an installation on hdd and on an usb-stick, just use /dev/sdb instead of /dev/sda at installation-gui [16:02] iceroot: sadly I am on a windows which I want to format. [16:02] and what I want is to use the usb to install 11.10 iceroot [16:04] faryshta: the 11.10 iso can easiy be put by dd or something similar to the usb-stick [16:04] faryshta, do you know the dev of your USB? ie /dev/sdc type thing? [16:05] I am on windows :( zykotick9_ so no. [16:05] faryshta, ahh - sorry i can't help then. Good luck. [16:06] iceroot: I simply place the .iso on the usb? [16:08] faryshta: no [16:08] faryshta: what about using 11.04? instead of a beta? [16:11] iceroot: he could dd the iso [16:11] I don't remember the syntax for it though [16:11] IdleOne: how? [16:12] hmm wait your in windows you said [16:12] IdleOne: does it work from windows? [16:12] charlie-tca: no clue but doubtful [16:12] IdleOne: dd if=/foo/bar/file.iso of=/dev/sdb but he has windows [16:13] faryshta: also the usb-creator from 11.04 should work with the 11.10 iso [16:13] iceroot: I installed usb-creator but doesn't give you the option to use 11.10 [16:13] faryshta: also why using pendrivelinux? ubuntu has buildin tools to do that and please dont use crosspostings [16:13] faryshta: but it does give you the option to select the iso you downloaded [16:14] pendrivelinux is a site to download several tools to usb instalation. [16:14] IdleOne: [16:15] I know what pendrivelinux is [16:15] IdleOne: sorry that message was meant to iceroot [16:16] I am positive iceroot also knows [16:16] faryshta: download vbox, mount a usb stick there and install ubuntu to that stick :) [16:17] I'm having problems with the indicator-plugin in xubuntu 11.10. I'm trying to run the indicator-sysmonitor but the output does not get updated. It works great in xubuntu 11.04 and it works in ubuntu (unity) 11.04 and 11.10 so it seems the problem is in the indicator-plugin for xubuntu 11.10. Anyone? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:23] hello [16:24] Hi. How can I install 11.10 on a usb? [16:24] faryshta: this is the correct channel to get help with 11.10 [16:25] IdleOne: which help? [16:25] Can you help? [16:25] anything pertaining to 11.10 [16:25] I was getting some responses at the other channel. [16:25] Not here. [16:25] iceroot: gave you some options, scroll back and read. [16:25] I would still need to burn the iso somewhere. [16:26] with the iceroot solution I need to have a bootable unit to create a bootable unit. [16:26] why must it be 11.10? why not 11.04? [16:26] because. [16:26] faryshta: no [16:26] not a good enough answer. my 7 year old gives those types of answers [16:26] faryshta: install vbox, and boot the iso in vbix and install to the usb stick [16:27] IdleOne: I don't need to explain my reasons. [16:28] iceroot: I still need a bootable unit to install 11.10 on vbox. [16:28] if I virtualize Ubuntu 11.10 beta inside Ubuntu 11.04 with VirtualBox... how can I access 11.04 filesystem archives in 11.04 from the virtualized beta? [16:28] faryshta: what? [16:28] faryshta: sudo apt-get install vbox [16:28] iceroot: I am on a windows which I want to format. [16:28] faryshta: start it, boot the iso in vbox and install to the usb stick [16:28] peto_, guest additions [16:28] faryshta: then install vbox on windows [16:29] thank you escott [16:29] http://blog.sudobits.com/2011/09/11/how-to-install-ubuntu-11-10-from-usb-drive-or-cd/ looks promiseing. :) testing it out now [16:30] how can I boot the iso iceroot ? I need a cd or a usb which is what I am trying to create. [16:30] faryshta: ever used vbox? [16:30] faryshta: just donwload the iso and say vbox to start that iso file [16:31] faryshta: with virtualbox you can "install" with the iso you downloaded and then from within that install you can create a USB install of the same iso. [16:31] virtualbox does not require a physical medium to install [16:42] hooray, my oneiric upgrade failed, and the partial upgrade i attempted failed too [16:43] never do partial upgrades [16:43] partial as they may seem they break everything [16:43] but how do i finish the upgrade otherwise? [16:44] it worked fine before, anyway [16:45] apt-get -f install [16:46] might help a little [16:46] hacks [16:47] haxz [16:49] that didn't do anything [16:50] there were no packages to install [16:50] just 1304 to not upgrade [17:19] the problem won't go away [17:20] all the packages are held back [17:20] and the upgrade tool fails because the packages are held [17:25] okay, so what can i do to make this upgrade work === gnomie is now known as Guest61346 [17:31] i can't force the packages to install [17:31] and the upgrade tool won't install them because it thinks they're held [17:34] tensorpudding, are they in fact held? have you checked with dpkg? [17:34] how would i check [17:35] tensorpudding, dpkg --get-selections | grep -v install [17:36] nothing [17:38] but apt won't install them either [17:38] tensorpudding, then they are held-back to deal with conflicting dependencies. if you can determine what is being held-back and why you can try to file a bug, or just wait until the package mantainer fixes up the dependencies [17:38] i'd like to report a bug installing ppa's in synaptic on kubuntu 11.10 [17:39] that's pretty nasty [17:39] wtf, this is ridiculous, installed win7 on a completely different disk, it overwrote my first boot disk MBR so grub got kicked out, reinstalling grub gives Error 6 [17:39] i found a conflict regarding flash [17:39] and grub2 is very crap, very [17:40] you are presented with a gpg error after adding a ppa to synaptic. it only works by removing the apt entries afterwards then closing and re opening repositories to add the ppa, and then refreshing again, then the ppa installs [17:41] grub2 is great [17:42] yeah, if it only did not flicker my screen and just leave them off :p [17:42]