[02:08] <trinikrono> hey bugsquad i have a bug 315988
[02:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 315988 in checkgmail (Ubuntu) "CheckGMail doesn't save password (affects: 4) (heat: 24)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/315988
[02:08] <trinikrono> lol what happens is that it started back happening
[02:08] <trinikrono> should i close this bug and create a new one
[02:08] <trinikrono> or go ahead and triage this old one
[02:40] <Exodus> trinikrono, let me install and verify for you?
[02:41] <trinikrono> ok great
[02:41] <trinikrono> i am wondering about the triage process though
[02:41] <Exodus> that is built on perl
[02:41] <trinikrono> yes
[02:41] <Exodus> Does it through any debug information?
[02:44] <Exodus> trinikrono, doesn't even work for me
[02:45] <trinikrono> only the line when you run from terminal
[02:45] <Exodus> trinikrono, didn't google recently move to OAUTH for all it's services? maybe this checkgmail isn't using it
[02:45] <trinikrono> i found a report on the upstream already
[02:45] <trinikrono> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3406322&group_id=137480&atid=738663
[02:45] <trinikrono> it has a patch too
[02:45] <trinikrono> and it is working i tested it already
[02:45] <ubot4> trinikrono: Error: <Bugtracker.plugin.Sourceforge instance at 0x4306290> bug 3406322 not found
[02:45] <trinikrono> my question was if to use this old report which about something else
[02:46] <trinikrono> or to make a new one
[02:46] <Exodus> Error: 401 Unauthorised
[02:46] <trinikrono> also i checked the debian tracker but no one reported any bug like this
[02:46] <trinikrono> so i am just wondering what to do with this report, as you can see the reporter opened a bug i closed already
[02:47] <Exodus> i keep getting that
[02:47] <Exodus> checkgmail -v
[02:47] <trinikrono> just patch it
[02:47] <trinikrono> from the sourceforge bug
[02:56] <Exodus> With that patch it's working
[02:56] <trinikrono> yes
[02:56] <Exodus> you were referring to the saved password
[02:56] <Exodus> Quit and reopen?
[02:56] <trinikrono> i was speaking about the bug report in launchpad itself
[02:56] <trinikrono> if to work on that old one
[02:56] <trinikrono> or make a new one
[02:57] <Exodus> well yes, that should fix it
[02:57] <Exodus> although it needs triaging
[02:57] <trinikrono> well that is what i am trying to do here
[02:57] <Exodus> The actual problem described is wrong
[02:57] <Exodus> It does not do that for me
[02:58] <Exodus> Because the field is never blank
[02:58] <charlie-tca> trinikrono: I would suggest closing that old report and opening a new one due to the changes in the applications
[02:58] <Exodus> +1
[02:58] <trinikrono> charlie-tca: thank you
[02:58] <Exodus> and get that patch linked in the new ticket
[02:58] <trinikrono> yes
[02:58] <charlie-tca> yes, please do add the patch
[02:59] <trinikrono> well its on the upstream tracker
[02:59] <charlie-tca> and have Exodus confirm that the patch works to fix the issue
[02:59] <trinikrono> charlie-tca: what do you think about a title
[03:00] <Exodus> trinikrono, link me the new bug and i'll be happy to confirm
[03:00] <charlie-tca> Is it the same? checkgmail does not save password ?
[03:00] <trinikrono> nope
[03:00] <trinikrono> its broken
[03:00] <trinikrono> broken since today (fix attached)
[03:00] <charlie-tca> sorry, really tired and missed half the discussion
[03:00] <trinikrono> thats the title from the sourceforge tracker
[03:00] <Exodus> the former bug is invalid now
[03:01] <trinikrono> thing is i am not seeing it in debian as yet
[03:01] <trinikrono> o.o
[03:01] <charlie-tca> broken how?
[03:01] <charlie-tca> It doesn't have to exist in debian, it exists in Ubuntu
[03:01] <trinikrono> 1sec
[03:01] <Exodus> they can get it from Ubuntu
[03:02] <trinikrono> it says on the terminal
[03:02] <trinikrono> Unable to find gmail_ik ... full message text won't work :(
[03:02] <trinikrono> and does not login
[03:02] <trinikrono> so it does not work totally
[03:02] <charlie-tca> checkgmail does not login
[03:03] <charlie-tca> checkgmail does not login; can't find gmail_ik
[03:03] <trinikrono> i am thinking to login under oneiric and report it
[03:04] <charlie-tca> What are you logged into now?
[03:04] <trinikrono> lucid
[03:04] <charlie-tca> Yeah, I would go either natty or oneiric
[03:05] <charlie-tca> but you can also add a comment that it is still valid in Oneiric, too
[03:05] <trinikrono> well if i report it in oneiric that should cover everybody
[03:05] <charlie-tca> With the patch, if it can get pushed in, it could be fixed in Oneiric, and then SRU'd to lucid
[03:06] <Exodus> I'm reporting from Oneiric
[03:06] <trinikrono> charlie-tca: what about debian?
[03:07] <trinikrono> hggh recommened i look at them since they seem to be more active than the upstream project
[03:07] <charlie-tca> what about it? You can forward the upstream if you want to, but get it reported and triaged in Ubuntu to get it fixed
[03:07] <charlie-tca> Don't send it straight to sourceforge, instead upstream it to debian
[03:07] <trinikrono> its in sourceforge already
[03:07] <charlie-tca> but it won't make oneiric then, it might make it into P
[03:08] <charlie-tca> It is usually better to upstream to debian, if they are active in the app. Debian maintainer will then forward it to the actual source
[03:09] <charlie-tca> so, one of you report it, one of you triage it, then forward it to Debian
[03:12] <trinikrono> charlie-tca: can i ask how does a bug get fixed after we triage something?
[03:13] <trinikrono> i realised in some cases thats why its better to report to debian
[03:13] <charlie-tca> If it has a patch, the debian maintainer decides whether or not to apply the patch at that level. If they don't use it, Ubuntu devs can apply it for us only
[03:14] <charlie-tca> If it doesn' t go to debian, Ubuntu devs apply the patch locally.
[03:14] <trinikrono> but its better to check debian first?
[03:14] <charlie-tca> It is more work if the patch is local only
[03:14] <trinikrono> ok
[03:14] <charlie-tca> It is better to upstream the bug to debian
[03:15] <trinikrono> err that would mean to report it from debian also
[03:15] <charlie-tca> Many times the Debian maintainer and the Ubuntu developer are the same person
[03:15] <trinikrono> ok
[03:15] <charlie-tca> no, it means sending the report to them
[03:16] <trinikrono> so i can open a bug report and just put a link to he ubuntu bug?
[03:16] <charlie-tca> Like this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Upstream
[03:17] <charlie-tca> usually you just copy the ubuntu report to an email to debian bug reporting
[03:27] <trinikrono> submit@bugs.debian.org
[03:27] <trinikrono> and do that after i make the report
[03:49] <trinikrono> Exodus: you said you was using oneiric to test the checkgmail package?
[03:50] <trinikrono> i patch the file, now it wont show on the screen with unity 2d lol!
[03:50] <trinikrono> and it said 401 unauthorised
[03:50] <trinikrono> charlie-tca: ping
[03:51] <trinikrono> well i guess thats something to report lol
[03:55] <Exodus> trinikrono, yes
[03:55] <Exodus> trinikrono, I applied the patch and it's working in oneiric
[03:56] <trinikrono> Exodus: are you using unity?
[03:56] <Exodus> trinikrono, gnome-shell
[03:56] <Exodus> trinikrono, let me test in Unity
[03:56] <trinikrono> teehee
[03:56] <trinikrono> well do i have a suprise for you
[03:57] <trinikrono> thats two more bugs to file
[03:58] <Exodus> trinikrono, it doesn't show on Unity heh, although that's not exactly a bug, it's a feature
[03:58] <Exodus> I mean there's nothing wrong with the app, it's just a gnome app, not a Unity app (so to speak)
[03:59] <Exodus> gnome-shell is more compatible with gnome classic than Unity is
[03:59] <Exodus> In that sense gnome-shell docks it properly but Unity doesn't.
[03:59] <Exodus> It's still running, just doesn't show anywhere.
[03:59] <Exodus> Report it, I'll confirm
[03:59] <trinikrono> Exodus: lol i am trying to see if i can whitelist it but
[04:00] <Exodus> Although this should get to upstream
[04:00] <trinikrono> which one its totally not working in unity
[04:00] <Exodus> And it's an effort they have to do to make it work with Unity
[04:00] <trinikrono> even with the patch
[04:00] <trinikrono> lol
[04:01] <trinikrono> its a lucky thing you had gnome shell installed Exodus
[04:02] <Exodus> Yeah heh
[04:03] <Exodus> trinikrono, what's your launchpad profile? I have to go, I'll look for the bugs in your profile to confirm later.
[04:03] <trinikrono> i think i have a way to work it, give me a few i think we have two bugs to triage
[04:03] <trinikrono> ~trinikrono
[04:03] <Exodus> roger
[04:04] <trinikrono> https://launchpad.net/%7Etrinikrono
[04:04] <Exodus> kk, bbl
[04:04]  * Exodus cheers
[04:37] <trinikrono> charlie-tca: bug 851553 and bug 851556 so i think that is enough reporting for tonight ill be off too bed
[04:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 851553 in checkgmail (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "checkgmail does not login: Unable to find gmail_ik (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/851553
[04:37] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 851556 in checkgmail (Ubuntu) "Checkgmail does not work with unity panel (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/851556
[07:42] <bullgard4> http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bugs writes: "59 New bugs" and "90 Open bugs". What are "new bugs"?
[10:16] <bullgard4> [solved]
[13:11] <sense> hello everyone
[13:21] <nigelb> sense: \o/
[13:21] <nigelb> sense: How are you?
[13:21] <sense> hello nigelb!
[13:22] <sense> I'm fine, just finished my second week at university.
[13:22] <sense> nigelb: How have you been?
[13:22] <nigelb> Nice
[13:24] <nigelb> Pretty good as well, though temporarily ill.
[18:26] <SwitchDK> Hi ubuntu-bugs, i was hoping somebody could spare a moment to help me with the HowToTriage page.
[18:27] <SwitchDK> i'm a very new member and wanted to learn more about the search function (advanced) which is referred to in the HowTo
[18:29] <SwitchDK> but (slightly embarrassing) I am unable to find the Advanced Search functionality
[18:31] <SwitchDK> would somebody be able to give me some hints on how to find it
[18:33] <roadmr> SwitchDK: go to a particular package, e.g. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/
[18:33] <roadmr> SwitchDK: "Advanced search" will be right there under the search field
[18:34] <roadmr> SwitchDK: this also works for a project, for instance to search bugs in Ubuntu as a whole: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[18:36] <SwitchDK> aha, i get it now. many thanks for taking the time to answer imy question.
[18:36] <ashams> join ubuntu-dev
[18:36] <SwitchDK> my*
[18:36] <ashams> sorry ;)
[18:36] <ashams> join ubuntu-beginners-dev
[18:37] <ashams> oh no!
[18:37] <ashams> now it worked :)
[18:38] <hggdh> ashams: you are forgetting (1) to start with '/'; (2) the hash on the channel name: /join #ubuntu-dev
[18:39] <ashams> hggdh: thanks man i did forget the '/' twice, abut the # chatzilla fixes handles it :)
[18:39] <ashams> handles* (it seems to be the typo day)
[18:40] <hggdh> heh. Welcome to may normal day -- type and dyslexia
[18:40] <hggdh> typo
[18:41] <ashams> yeah I can see that :P
[18:42] <davmor2> hggdh: I just thank god for spell check
[18:42] <hggdh> :-)
[18:42] <ashams> you even made a typo in the word typo itself, that's terrific
[18:42] <ashams> :P
[18:42] <hggdh> davmor2: I still have to set it up for me, on weechat
[18:43] <hggdh> ashams: well, it drives the point quite well
[18:43] <hggdh> :-)
[18:43] <ashams> :)
[18:43] <davmor2> hggdh: I just use xchat :D
[18:44] <hggdh> xchat is my fallback, if weechat misbehaves (quite possible, given that I am running git head
[18:48] <ashams> )
[19:10] <bil21al> in which pakage should we report the bug  of ALL SETTING??
[19:34] <hggdh> bil21al: what is "ALL SETTING"?
[20:04] <bil21al> i think this bug is dead  +bug/137688
[20:11] <charlie-tca> bug 137688
[20:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 137688 in xchat (Ubuntu) "xchat doesn't remember "minimize to tray" setting (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137688
[20:11] <charlie-tca> why?
[20:13] <charlie-tca> bil21al: why do you think 137688 is dead?
[20:14] <bil21al> charlie-tca it is reported about in 2007 and its not fixed till now
[20:14] <bil21al> i think no body is working on it
[20:15] <charlie-tca> That doesn't make a bug invalid. According the launchpad, a user confirmed it still doesn't work in Oneiric. That makes it valid
[20:15] <charlie-tca> If you have the ability, feel free to fix it
[20:15] <charlie-tca> But no bug becomes invalid because it is old.
[20:16] <charlie-tca> There are still bugs from 2005 that are valid
[20:16] <micahg> they just become more distinguished as they age :P
[20:16] <bil21al> hmmm ok
[20:16] <hggdh> like wisky
[20:16] <bil21al> hmm
[20:17] <charlie-tca> and people
[20:18] <bil21al> charlie-tca: i will fix it but unfortuantly i am not a programmer so but i will be so when i will be a programmer than i will.
[20:18] <charlie-tca> There has always been more bugs than developers. They must fix the most important bugs first.
[20:18] <hggdh> bil21al: most bugs will have noboy working on them -- there are a total of ~ 800k bugs, and there are *NOT* 800k developers. Not even near... but the bug still exists. We do not close bugs because nobody is working on them
[20:18] <hggdh> charlie-tca: heh. we are in sync, it seems :-)
[20:19] <charlie-tca> hggdh: great minds...
[20:19] <hggdh> and all that ;-)
[20:19] <bil21al> hmmm ok hggdh thanks for increasing my info i didnt knew that
[20:19] <hggdh> charlie-tca: also, I guess I would be rather distinguished...
[20:20] <hggdh> bil21al: our pleasure
[20:20] <charlie-tca> distinguished is very good :)
[20:20] <micahg> hggdh: Ubuntu only has ~92k open :)
[20:21] <charlie-tca> still don't have that many developers, though ;)
[20:21] <hggdh> micahg: oh, we are doing much better then! ;-) but, to be picky, I stated a "total of 800k", did not state they would be open
[20:22] <micahg> hggdh: still, I'd say Ubuntu only has ~500k of those
[20:23] <charlie-tca> doesn't 851??? mean at least 851000 now?
[20:26] <micahg> charlie-tca: yes, but that's in all of launchpad which has thousands of projects in addition to Ubuntu
[20:28] <charlie-tca> Oh, I thought each project started at 1, but I guess they don't.
[20:31] <micahg> charlie-tca: nope, single bug database for everything, that's why you can have multiple project/distro tasks on a bug
[20:31] <charlie-tca> I am still learning :)
[20:31] <micahg> charlie-tca: we all are :)
[20:41] <bil21al> charlie-tca can u plzz tel me in which pakage should i report this bug
[20:41] <bil21al> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/852137?comments=all
[20:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 852137 in unity (Ubuntu) "ubuntu one icon shown two times in system settings (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Invalid]
[20:42] <bil21al> any body !!
[20:45] <charlie-tca> It is already reported against unity
[20:47] <charlie-tca> hggdh: problem with omer26, I think. Please take a look at the comment on bug 852137
[20:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 852137 in unity (Ubuntu) "ubuntu one icon shown two times in system settings (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852137
[20:47] <charlie-tca> bil21al: working on it
[20:47] <bil21al> ok
[20:47] <charlie-tca> hggdh: actually, om26er
[20:48] <hggdh> weird, why did he do it?
[20:48] <charlie-tca> I don't know, but a bug is not invalid for wrong package, is it?
[20:48] <hggdh> bil21al: I would start by reporting it against ubuntu-one
[20:49] <hggdh> charlie-tca: not at all, the package should be adjusted as needed
[20:49] <charlie-tca> Thank you
[20:49] <charlie-tca> bil21al: will take care of it. I reopened the bug for you
[20:50] <bil21al> thank you bro charlie-tca
[20:51] <hggdh> omer is not online anymore. I will ask him, when I find him, why did he do it
[20:55] <charlie-tca> Thank you.
[20:55] <charlie-tca> reassigned to ubuntuone-control-panel
[20:55] <hggdh> charlie-tca: thank *you*, distinguished sir
[20:55] <charlie-tca> You are most welcome, sir.
[20:56] <bil21al> thank you both of you sir
[21:11] <bdmurray> RedSingularity: modified your latest pattern to not match on a specific line number
[22:36] <RedSingularity> bdmurray: which number?
[22:37] <bdmurray> RedSingularity: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/apport/ubuntu-bugpatterns/revision/350
[22:37] <bdmurray> RedSingularity: I used \d+ there instead of a specific line number
[22:39] <RedSingularity> bdmurray: what does that d+ do?
[22:39] <bdmurray> RedSingularity: matches any digit one or more times
[22:40] <RedSingularity> bdmurray: ok and that needs to be escaped I assume?
[22:40] <RedSingularity> i see the '\' there.
[22:40] <bdmurray> RedSingularity: no the \ makes d a special character
[22:40] <bdmurray> d is generally just a d
[22:41] <bdmurray> but with the \ in front of it it becomes any digit
[22:41] <RedSingularity> bdmurray: ahh ok i see.  Very good.