[06:56] <joelesko> chrisccoulson: I know you must be super busy, but have you had a chance to look at the updates for the seamonkey package?
[06:57] <joelesko> I have had a number of people try it are using it. No issues so far.
[07:13] <chrisccoulson> hi joelesko, i've not had a chance just yet. i'll try and look at it today
[07:13] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[07:14] <joelesko> you're welcome. I apperciated the feedback. I also think it made the package simpler.
[16:36] <micahg> chrisccoulson: beta 6 tagged, fixes some crashers, still don't know if it's worth pulling in for beta 2, I haven't been keeping an eye on our crashes upstream (I've been getting a bunch on trunk, but not on beta)
[17:46] <FernandoMiguel> evening
[18:07] <ejat> evening
[18:09] <FernandoMiguel> chromium-browser:
[18:09] <FernandoMiguel>   Installed: 15.0.865.0~r98568-0ubuntu1~ucd~dev1
[18:09] <FernandoMiguel> google-chrome-unstable:
[18:09] <FernandoMiguel>   Installed: 15.0.874.15-r101261
[18:09] <FernandoMiguel> are we gonna bump PPA?
[18:34] <micahg> FernandoMiguel: yeah, no one has had time to get it up and running yet
[18:34] <micahg> hopefully next week
[18:35] <FernandoMiguel> micahg: so is chromium basically unsupported as of this moment ?
[18:35] <micahg> FernandoMiguel: well, no one is updating the PPAs ATM, my first concern is stable releases which will happen early next week
[18:36] <micahg> I also hope to get oneiric up to M14 over the weekend
[18:56] <chrisccoulson> gah, will people stop reporting bugs against my menubar extension saying that they can't right click in the menus
[18:56] <chrisccoulson> i'm sick of saying "UNITY DOESN'T SUPPORT THAT!!", just like, no other application supports it
[18:57] <micahg> chrisccoulson: did you see my note about firefox above?
[18:57] <chrisccoulson> micahg, yeah. i'm not doing anything about it on a friday evening anyway, especially as i was up late last night to debug a lightdm issue
[18:58] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ok, no problem, wasn't implying that you should :), just was wondering if you had any idea about our crash stats with the current beta in oneiric (no need to research now either)
[18:59] <chrisccoulson> well, most of the crashes i was causing seem to have disappeared now. people are only reporting crashes frequently from natty now ;)
[18:59] <FernandoMiguel> chrisccoulson: well... want a screenshot of my desktop ?
[18:59] <FernandoMiguel> I have a few applets *lost* there
[19:00] <FernandoMiguel> I can't move them, I can't remove them or add new ones
[19:00] <FernandoMiguel> LOL
[19:00] <FernandoMiguel> the right click used to allow control over that
[19:00] <micahg> chrisccoulson: that's good news then, I think sticking with the current beta in oneiric would be fine for beta 2 then IMHO
[19:02] <chrisccoulson> FernandoMiguel, and the old panel totally sucked because it had that sort of flexibility. every time i connected my monitor with the old panel, i had to spend 5 minutes moving all my applets around again, because the panel messed up the ordering when it resized
[19:02] <FernandoMiguel> eheh
[19:02] <chrisccoulson> i definitely don't miss that now ;)
[19:02] <FernandoMiguel> well. how can I fix mine ?
[19:02] <FernandoMiguel> how can I add stuff?
[19:03] <FernandoMiguel> remove stuff?
[19:03] <FernandoMiguel> lot's of wasted space here
[19:03] <FernandoMiguel> where I used to have *very useful* applets
[19:06] <chrisccoulson> what i most want right now is a dash that doesn't make me want to vomit when i look at it ;)
[19:08] <FernandoMiguel> I want a better WM
[19:08] <FernandoMiguel> a compiz that doesn't crash or memleaks
[19:08] <chrisccoulson> heh
[19:08] <FernandoMiguel> a faster shutdown
[19:08] <chrisccoulson> that's why i'm using metacity + unity-2d
[19:08] <FernandoMiguel> I boot faster then I halt
[19:08] <FernandoMiguel> I'm on gnome fallback
[19:08] <FernandoMiguel> with no 3D
[19:08] <FernandoMiguel> I miss composite :(
[19:09] <chrisccoulson> plus, unity-2d doesn't have blurry icons with ghosting in the dash
[19:09] <chrisccoulson> metacity does basic compositing, so i don't really feel like i'm missing out
[19:09] <chrisccoulson> and visually, i prefer unity-2d
[19:09] <chrisccoulson> it looks nicer
[19:09] <FernandoMiguel> I like my Gnome DO with transparency
[19:09] <chrisccoulson> and the dash scrolls much smoother
[19:38] <micahg> wow, somehow according to about:memory, bug 847224  is using 1.5GB of RAM
[19:38] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 847224 in qt4-x11 "qt4-x11 ftbfs on armel (timeout building the docs)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/847224
[19:40] <chrisccoulson> launchpad bug ;)
[19:41] <micahg> chrisccoulson: should I file one?
[19:41] <chrisccoulson> not sure. i guess it would be difficult to track down, but i always find launchpad is amongst the highest memory consumer here
[19:42] <chrisccoulson> always above twitter and gmail too
[19:48] <FernandoMiguel> gmail
[19:48] <FernandoMiguel> omg gmail
[19:48] <FernandoMiguel> worse than plus
[19:51] <micahg> yeah, the new about:memory helps narrow down the issue quite a bit
[19:52] <micahg> FernandoMiguel: it's the javascript, same with LP, that's how they get it to be responsive and featureful, it's just the JS engines haven't caught up yet in efficiency
[19:52] <FernandoMiguel> AH
[20:34] <micahg> chrisccoulson: if you get a chance, can you give me access to the chromium PPA team?