| nucc1 | anyone bought a pc from linux emporium before? i'm looking at the shuttle, and i wanna know if i can extend it for a dual-head setup | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| nucc1 | scratch that. it seems it has a pci-e slot. | 00:03 |
| nucc1 | just need an apt GPU. | 00:03 |
| justinBUJITSUBRO | good night yall can anyone know how to find the back door to a eMachines bios: V3.07 | 00:50 |
| justinBUJITSUBRO | i have forgoten my password | 00:51 |
| justinBUJITSUBRO | i wrote when i bought it | 00:51 |
| justinBUJITSUBRO | ok cyall | 00:53 |
| Catbuskris | hi guys does anyone know the path analogous to /dev/video0 for audio? | 01:49 |
| Catbuskris | /dev/audio0 doesn't exist. i know it has something to do with pulseaudio but i don't know what to write for the path :( | 01:50 |
| Catbuskris | update: you prefix your command with padsp and it makes /dev/dsp work. | 01:53 |
| Catbuskris | thanks guys | 01:53 |
| Catbuskris | :D | 01:53 |
| czajkowski | *yawns* | 06:39 |
| czajkowski | morning | 06:40 |
| AlanBell | morning | 06:43 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: hey hows you | 06:47 |
| diplo | Morning all | 07:12 |
| Knightwise | Morning | 07:27 |
| === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson | ||
| andylockran | Morning. | 08:02 |
| oimon | anyone got notify messages working for thunderbird 6? the extension is broken now :( | 08:27 |
| j0nr | morning | 08:34 |
| diplo | oimon: I got so fed up with TB and cpu usage and plugin issues I've just moved to Evolution now | 08:34 |
| diplo | :/ | 08:34 |
| j0nr | I need a brain to pick about bash scripting | 08:34 |
| oimon | diplo: evolution crashed every day for a year on me | 08:34 |
| diplo | Oh :/ | 08:35 |
| oimon | tb is using 0 cpu | 08:35 |
| diplo | Works for me, but only moved yesterday so we will see, but my colleague moved a couple of weeks ago and has been fine | 08:35 |
| diplo | really.. | 08:35 |
| popey | \o/ webmail | 08:35 |
| popey | Good morning also | 08:35 |
| diplo | Mine kills my machine, debating about a reinstall anyhoo | 08:36 |
| diplo | Use webmail for most of my services apart from work | 08:36 |
| andylockran | hey guys - got an old intrepid box.. using a ppd file for a Zebra printer and it doesn't work - on later versions of cups (natty) it works fine | 08:36 |
| andylockran | any ideas whether it'll be tied to a cups version? | 08:37 |
| drussell | andylockran: it shouldn't be tied... but it's easy enough to backup the PPD and try it | 09:14 |
| andylockran | drussell: I'm using a custom ppd that I've modified | 09:16 |
| JamesTait | Happy Friday, team! | 09:17 |
| czajkowski | mother of god NZ is killing Japan | 09:22 |
| kirrus | I'm missing something here... there isn't a war on between NZ and Japan, right? | 09:23 |
| kirrus | ;) | 09:23 |
| BigRedS | If czajkowski is talking about it, it's either rugby or ubuntu, and that doesn't sound a lot like ubuntu :) | 09:24 |
| kirrus | Ahh, Rugby. | 09:24 |
| kirrus | 1009: RUGBY UNION - Hosts New Zealand are now 52-0 up against Japan in their second match of the World Cup, having scored six tries in the first half. More than 25 minutes left. | 09:24 |
| kirrus | That is pretty embarassing for Japan... | 09:24 |
| czajkowski | 69 - 7 | 09:25 |
| gord | well its not really a big sport there | 09:25 |
| czajkowski | BigRedS: ahh you do know me | 09:29 |
| czajkowski | gord: no bickies for you smart arse | 09:29 |
| kirrus | czajkowski: to be fair, it's not a big sport here (England) either. ;) | 09:30 |
| czajkowski | kirrus: go to the naughty step | 09:32 |
| * kirrus slinks off tail between legs | 09:32 | |
| andylockran | czajkowski: Japan have had some pretty nice backs moves though | 09:33 |
| andylockran | unlucky on the forward pass by their prop a second ago | 09:33 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 09:49 |
| Pernig | morning brobostigon | 09:50 |
| brobostigon | morning Pernig | 09:50 |
| * Laney wibbles | 09:55 | |
| kirrus | Why are you wibbling, Laney? | 09:58 |
| Laney | made of jelly | 09:58 |
| * oimon is having fun with ruby on rails apps :( | 10:00 | |
| davmor2 | oimon: I read that as rugby on rails I blame czajkowski for that though all her talk of rugby all the time :D | 10:01 |
| * BigRedS sympathises with oimon | 10:01 | |
| * oimon wishes there was a #ubuntu-rugby group | 10:02 | |
| BigRedS | I do think 'having fun' as a euphemism for 'not enjoying myself' is stretched rather far when applied to anything ruby related | 10:02 |
| kirrus | For those using a non-free O.S, Portal is free atm: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/09/16/portal-free/ | 10:02 |
| oimon | yeah, rails app + passenger + ssl | 10:02 |
| oimon | i think it's working now | 10:02 |
| oimon | now i know why people buys apps instead :) | 10:02 |
| * oimon must remember to use the toilet before announcing a time window for a service to be down for maintenance :-\ | 10:04 | |
| hamitron | :D | 10:05 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: you online yet you slacker | 10:05 |
| Pernig | thanks kirrus | 10:08 |
| * czajkowski stabs davmor2 and MooDoo | 10:10 | |
| directhex | oimon, ruby on rails is a kids' framework, for people running "servers" on old pentium 3 boxes in their bedrooms and who *never* need to deploy properly | 10:10 |
| directhex | i can't think of another reason for the dreadful design of the thing | 10:10 |
| hamitron | what is wrong with pentium 3? ;/ | 10:10 |
| popey | heh | 10:12 |
| popey | secondary Morning btw | 10:12 |
| BigRedS | hamitron: yeah, apart from RoR I can't see anything wrong with directhex's scenario... | 10:14 |
| directhex | undeployable software has no reason for existing | 10:14 |
| BigRedS | the thrill of the challenge! | 10:15 |
| kirrus | Gentoo exists for that challenge... | 10:16 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: you leave MooDoo out of it he happily off being a dad again, no excuse to deaf out his mates obviously but ha ho | 10:16 |
| oimon | although now it's running it's pretty stable | 10:18 |
| oimon | although my puppet dashboard sucks as it's running on webbrick | 10:19 |
| oimon | can't be bothered to spend a day fixing that | 10:19 |
| * kirrus rants about customers ranting about our 'terrible' support when they refuse to contact us to.. ask for support. | 10:57 | |
| Laney | ugh, international travel | 10:59 |
| hamitron | how can you rescan all usb devices? | 11:00 |
| hamitron | I unplugged a hdd, and want to plug it back in, but it isn't detecting it | 11:01 |
| hamitron | :/ | 11:01 |
| Pernig | is it not detecting it at all, or is it just not mounting? | 11:02 |
| hamitron | nothing in dmesg | 11:02 |
| Pernig | showing up when you use lsusb? | 11:02 |
| brobostigon | lsusb doesnt show it? | 11:02 |
| hamitron | no | 11:03 |
| Pernig | sometimes when i unplug something then plug it back in in ubuntu | 11:03 |
| Pernig | usually after 'safely removing' it | 11:03 |
| Pernig | i have to plug it into a different port for it to show up again | 11:04 |
| hamitron | that isn't really an option here | 11:04 |
| hamitron | :/ | 11:04 |
| hamitron | I guess I could move my desk to get to the back | 11:05 |
| hamitron | but easier to reboot | 11:05 |
| hamitron | so was wondering if there is a way in the software, to avoid this | 11:05 |
| Pernig | depending on the device, i think using eject rather than safely remove might help | 11:07 |
| Pernig | that's what i use for my card reader (the device i have this problem with) | 11:08 |
| hamitron | ok, will try that | 11:08 |
| brobostigon | Pernig: so one option uses unmount and the other eject ? | 11:09 |
| Pernig | brobostigon: i'm not sure on the backend of it, but i think safely remove unmounts then cuts the device off completely (if the device allows) | 11:11 |
| Pernig | whereas eject just unmounts, say if you have a card reader and you want to remove a card to replace with another later | 11:11 |
| hamitron | well, i did unplug it | 11:11 |
| hamitron | :/ | 11:11 |
| hamitron | just won't re-detect when plugged back in | 11:12 |
| Pernig | hamitron: i know what you mean, the device seems to 'stay off' when plugged back in | 11:12 |
| hamitron | it is a usb hard drive | 11:12 |
| brobostigon | Pernig: hmmm, interesting, more reserach required. | 11:12 |
| Pernig | out of interest, does get its power from USB? | 11:13 |
| hamitron | no, it has its own power | 11:13 |
| hamitron | I did read about there been some problem | 11:14 |
| Pernig | i think even if there is no bug, the options are a little ambiguous and could do with being addressed | 11:15 |
| hamitron | and someone said unloading the ehci_hcd on a slackware install, to fix it | 11:15 |
| hamitron | the kernel module I mean | 11:16 |
| hamitron | [ 3116.036203] usb 1-3.1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 8 | 11:17 |
| Pernig | got to dash, back later | 11:17 |
| hamitron | laters :) | 11:17 |
| gord | amazon prime is nice, but sometimes i feel silly for the big delivery truck coming tom my house to deliver one roll of tape that i needed but was too busy to nip out to the shop | 11:37 |
| davmor2 | gord: hahaha | 11:39 |
| Myrtti | on a grim subject, what is the protocol with the cards etc. sent to funeral directors, are they read aloud at the service? | 11:51 |
| Myrtti | I know they are in Finland but how about UK? | 11:52 |
| DJones | Myrtti: I think it would depend on who was taking the funeral | 11:52 |
| Myrtti | hm? | 11:52 |
| DJones | Some vicars may read some out, or maybe somebody who knew the person might read some out as part of the euology | 11:53 |
| Myrtti | ok, thats what I thought | 11:54 |
| DJones | From the funerals were I've been involved as the stand in verger, I wouldn't say it was common practise though | 11:55 |
| Myrtti | a friend who I knew through FLOSS circles suddenly died on Tuesday and ordered a Moonpig card, I know it's hard on the family and feeling there are more shoulders carrying the weight is comforting | 11:56 |
| Myrtti | s/ordered/I ordered/ | 11:56 |
| Myrtti | just didnt know about the protocol, but anyway, thanks | 11:57 |
| DJones | You're welcome | 11:57 |
| aptanet_ | hmm, minimised xchat to the tray in unity and it has vanished, now way to get back to it even though it is clearly still running | 13:24 |
| oly | lol, my xchat some times runs with the icon in the unity bar but you can not gain focus :p | 13:25 |
| aptanet_ | I've had to start a new instance | 13:26 |
| aptanet_ | I'm trying to decide whether to try to work out how to retrieve the other one, or simply kill it | 13:26 |
| aptanet_ | I'm sure somebody said that if you give unity a chance you'll grow to like it, so far I'm growing increasingly irritated by it | 13:27 |
| oly | aptanet, i quite like the interface my biggest issue is that a lot of apps i use dont seem to like it | 13:29 |
| kirrus | Unity is nice, it just has some awefully horrible bugs. | 13:30 |
| oly | it likes to fail with full screen apps in particular | 13:30 |
| aptanet_ | my biggest issue is that it makes finding apps more difficult | 13:30 |
| oly | and i like playing games :) | 13:30 |
| ball | kirrus: I'm not keen for a couple of reasons, but I like that we have a choice of desktops | 13:30 |
| ball | Hello TheOpenSourcerer | 13:30 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | hello ball | 13:31 |
| oly | i find it easier to find apps for the most part but some just dont show up even when you type the full name | 13:31 |
| aptanet_ | I'm afraid I look on Unity as an interesting proof of concept | 13:31 |
| oly | gnote being one i tried today :p | 13:31 |
| aptanet_ | I don't want to switch to the keyboard to start typing the name and then back to the mouse to select it | 13:31 |
| oly | yeah think its got a few years polish needed yet :) | 13:32 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Why would a server have a really high load average (~29) when cpu load and memory are both fine? | 13:32 |
| kirrus | ball: aye, the choice is useful | 13:32 |
| ball | I thought for years it would be nice to have a menu at the top of the screen like Atari, Amiga and Apple Macintosh, but it breaks focus-follows mouse and my users would be confused about which window the menu was for. | 13:32 |
| aptanet_ | not to mention for less used apps I often know where they are on the menu, but not what the actual app is called - particularly when a 'friendly' name is sometimes used! | 13:32 |
| oimon | i am left wondering if unity can ever be usable, even with more polish | 13:32 |
| kirrus | TheOpenSourcerer: network, disk I/O | 13:32 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | what's the best way to find out what is causing the load? | 13:33 |
| aptanet_ | ball, yes, I've had to back off focus follows mouse | 13:33 |
| kirrus | iotop, iptraf, htop | 13:33 |
| oimon | use top and press i to get rid of idle apps | 13:33 |
| oimon | check the state "R" for running. | 13:33 |
| kirrus | Sorry, that was to TheOpenSourcerer. :) If you're running software raid, it could be rebuilding, try cat /proc/mdstat | 13:33 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | top shows the highest process as [ahem] top ;-) | 13:34 |
| oimon | there should also be 28 other with R running state | 13:34 |
| oimon | run: | 13:35 |
| oimon | top -b -i -n 3 | pastebinit | 13:35 |
| popey | probably something has been spawned a bazillion times in a cron job | 13:36 |
| popey | lots of contention | 13:36 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | ahh - | 13:37 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | lots of these: | 13:37 |
| ball | aptanet_: I've been doing to for too long to change now ;-) | 13:37 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | 13608 root 20 0 18924 248 44 D 0 0.0 0:00.00 cron | 13:37 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | 13653 root 20 0 18924 248 44 D 0 0.0 0:00.00 cron | 13:37 |
| ball | aptanet_: The main thing for me is a strong desire not to confuse my users any more than necessary. | 13:37 |
| kirrus | TheOpenSourcerer: 'pstree -a | less' should give you more of an idea as to what the cronjobs are actually doing | 13:37 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Thanks - I now seem to be locked out :-(... Will be digging a tad more. | 13:38 |
| * popey uses pstree -Aa | 13:38 | |
| kirrus | Argh, I meant -p, not -a | 13:39 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | It's being terribly slow with it's replies to pstree. Although the cli itself is OK. | 13:39 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Nope - think I am going to have to kill it. | 13:41 |
| * TheOpenSourcerer blames AlanBell for installing a non-LTS version on a server ;-) | 13:42 | |
| davmor2 | TheOpenSourcerer: I think you'll find it was czajkowski fault, it normally is on this channel ;) | 13:43 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Ahh yes - of course you are right davmor2 | 13:44 |
| aptanet_ | ball, I've been determined to give unity a chance, but I much prefer using my slower netbook that can't run it than my desktop, so I fear its days may be numbered | 13:44 |
| ball | aptanet_: I started putting Xubuntu on machines again. | 13:45 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Hmmm- am struggling to get it to do anything now. I have 4 terminal sessions to it and all are not responding. Can I do Magic SYSRQ over ssh? | 13:45 |
| aptanet_ | ball, I used to like XFCE when I was using Debian, but was never that happy with Xubuntu | 13:45 |
| kirrus | TheOpenSourcerer: you can cat SYSRQ commands into the kernel, but that requires a responsive term :/ | 13:45 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | hmm | 13:46 |
| kirrus | TheOpenSourcerer: can you remote-powercycle? | 13:46 |
| ball | aptanet_: What issues did you see with Xubuntu? | 13:46 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I can log in and enter refreshes the prompt quickly enough. But try to run a command and it stalls. | 13:47 |
| aptanet_ | ball, quite a bit was the choice of apps and the hassle of removing and installing what I wanted iirc, and the tools for managing networking were a mess when I tried it | 13:47 |
| aptanet_ | I installed it again recently alongside unity, but there were several bugs with that and I didn't have time to play | 13:48 |
| kirrus | TheOpenSourcerer: echo 'key' > /proc/sysrq-trigger | 13:48 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | damn. can't get passed sudo. | 13:49 |
| kirrus | TheOpenSourcerer: patience? Sometimes the commands will get through, if you give them long enough. But, if I were you, I'd be getting console access / rebooting it | 13:50 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | kirrus: It is quite a long way away ;-) | 13:51 |
| kirrus | TheOpenSourcerer: remote hands? | 13:51 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Yeah - maybe. I have sent it a sudo reboot so maybe in a while it will get round to dealing with it. | 13:51 |
| AlanBell | did you break it TheOpenSourcerer? | 13:56 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Well - not really but I can't stop it right now. | 13:56 |
| kirrus | TheOpenSourcerer: So, it's broken, but it has nothing to do with you, right? ;) | 13:58 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Yes kirrus - iw breaking when I logged in. | 13:58 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | *it was | 13:58 |
| kirrus | Do you have a remote console, KVM thing? | 13:59 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | nah | 13:59 |
| AlanBell | it has an integrated lights out processor apparently | 13:59 |
| AlanBell | but that isn't plugged in | 13:59 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Michael Wood] Inhibit - http://www.michaelwood.me.uk/wordpress/2011/09/16/inhibit/ | 14:10 |
| kirrus | Shame.. remote consoles are insanely handy :) | 14:11 |
| Myrtti | chicken blue cheese pizza *nom* | 14:12 |
| willcooke | ping popey | 14:18 |
| popey | hullo | 14:18 |
| ball | LOM ftw. | 14:20 |
| kirrus | ball: LOM? | 14:22 |
| davmor2 | Myrtti: I didn't realise you could milk a chicken | 14:22 |
| oimon | no food should be blue | 14:22 |
| DJones | Blueberries | 14:23 |
| ball | kirrus: Lights-out Management... server consoles. | 14:24 |
| DJones | And what about sauted smurfs | 14:24 |
| ball | kirrus: Let you reboot, load an OS etc. | 14:24 |
| ball | kirrus: ...power on, power off, mess with (the equivalent of) CMOS/NVRAM settings. | 14:25 |
| oimon | are blueberries blue, or more purpley? | 14:25 |
| oimon | i guess i have to hand that one to you djones | 14:25 |
| kirrus | ball: ahh, cool, I know what you mean. I normally use direct PDU access things, but then, I am sitting a couple of meters away from the server racks ;) | 14:26 |
| davmor2 | oimon: blue cheese isn't blue | 14:26 |
| oimon | why's it called blue cheese? | 14:26 |
| DJones | oimon: Blueberries are fruit though, so I wouldn't count that as food, its not a sausage roll pie so it can't be nutrisious | 14:26 |
| oimon | http://whatscookingamerica.net/Salad/BlueCheese.JPG cheese+blue colour | 14:27 |
| ball | kirrus: We use PDU access only when the LOM's dead, which doesn't happen often. | 14:27 |
| oimon | who decided that eating mouldy cheese is a good idea? | 14:28 |
| kirrus | ball: cool. I say PDU, but we've out own custom-coded interface to the things, so there is Big Red Buttons on certain webpages to reboot certain machines ;) | 14:29 |
| DJones | Probably somebody with an empty fridge | 14:29 |
| * czajkowski throws a bucket of smelly fish over davmor2 and runs away | 14:32 | |
| Myrtti | gj | 14:33 |
| davmor2 | see now that was completely unprovoked attack there czajkowski so don't get trying to blame me for starting this war, /me throws a bucket of iced water of czajkowski | 14:33 |
| davmor2 | Myrtti: you okay? | 14:34 |
| * popey tickles Myrtti | 14:34 | |
| Myrtti | yeah, just had pizza after a small stroll to see mum and taking some apples from her trees to her. No stone yet. Anyway, back to cleaning sawdust and sanding | 14:36 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | That sudo doesn't seem to have the same process level as commands like "w" or "top" or "ps" is a bit of an issue it seems to me. I can watch my server processes but can't sudo to do anything. | 14:40 |
| * czajkowski hugs Myrtti | 14:42 | |
| TheOpenSourcerer | load avg now up to 47 and as a normal user I can move around the cli freely. But try to use sudo and the interface hangs. | 14:42 |
| popey | su to root? | 14:43 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | no passwd | 14:43 |
| popey | oops | 14:43 |
| oimon | sudo -i | 14:43 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | that stalls oimon | 14:44 |
| davmor2 | TheOpenSourcerer: I'd say you broked it | 14:44 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Anyone got a *very* long stick? | 14:44 |
| oimon | you broke the friday law | 14:44 |
| popey | have you tried turning it off and on again? | 14:45 |
| AlanBell | TheOpenSourcerer: can you crash it? | 14:46 |
| AlanBell | hard as a normal user | 14:46 |
| popey | TheOpenSourcerer: what kernel release are you on? :D | 14:49 |
| popey | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2011-August/001399.html use one of them to crash it :D | 14:49 |
| popey | http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2011-1581 maybe | 14:50 |
| oimon | how long have you waited for the sudo to work? | 14:53 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | popey: Sorry on phone. AlanBell installed 11.04 on this server | 14:54 |
| popey | yeah, that kernel bug relates to 11.04 | 14:54 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I have asked our customer (whose server it is) if he can go and give it a bloody big kick up the bottom. | 14:55 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Linux servername 2.6.38-11-server #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 29 19:20:32 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 14:56 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | how could I crash it AlanBell? Do some kind of recursive command to fill the memory or something? | 14:58 |
| czajkowski | popey: oh fixed my unity £D desktop issue | 14:58 |
| czajkowski | popey: by me I mean filbert :D | 14:58 |
| czajkowski | had to install unity it had vanished but could still see it on 2D | 14:58 |
| AlanBell | TheOpenSourcerer: dunno really, I was just suggesting non-conventional ways to shut it down | 15:01 |
| AlanBell | raising the temperature above the critical point would do it | 15:02 |
| oimon | anyone here bought a porch recently? | 15:02 |
| oimon | wondering if it's the same merry dance as double glazing quotes | 15:02 |
| popey | TheOpenSourcerer: forkbomb sounds like it's already been run :D | 15:04 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | This is weird though: http://paste.ubuntu.com/690883/ | 15:15 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I'm hoping our customer will wander downstairs in a mo and hit the big STOP button on the front of the server. | 15:17 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Then AlanBell can work out why 11.04 likes to commit suicide so much :-) | 15:18 |
| AlanBell | works for me :) | 15:19 |
| diplo | blimey TheOpenSourcerer that is some serious load :) | 15:20 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | yeah. But no processor load nor memory starvation. | 15:20 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | And there really isn't much running on the box | 15:20 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | 11.04 server, denyhosts, postgres, openerp and apache. | 15:21 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | diplo: It's now 48 :-) | 15:21 |
| popey | yeah, more cron jobs | 15:21 |
| diplo | IO issue, hitting swap or something ? | 15:22 |
| popey | wedged cron jobs | 15:22 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | But it is really weird how as a normal user the cli is very responsive. | 15:22 |
| diplo | hmm no 0k used | 15:22 |
| diplo | Some bug there somewhere then :) | 15:22 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | but try to sudo and it [the cli] stalls. | 15:22 |
| diplo | Any one ever have issues with ntpdate setting time to non bst ? | 15:22 |
| davmor2 | gord: scope → apps with filter games still shows nothing still | 15:23 |
| diplo | IE an hour slow | 15:23 |
| gord | davmor2, yell at kamstrup on ayatana for me :) | 15:23 |
| gord | davmor2, though it works fine here | 15:24 |
| davmor2 | gord one second let me check for updates before I start yelling then | 15:25 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | It's almost certainly cron jobs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/690894/ | 15:27 |
| davmor2 | gord: I have a bunch of unity fixes so fingers crossed | 15:29 |
| === schwuk_ is now known as schwuk | ||
| geekMePlease | Does the wireless modem E153 work in the newest Ubuntu? | 15:39 |
| geekMePlease | * it does not seem to recognize the device | 15:40 |
| geekMePlease | * have it connected it right now to 11.04 | 15:40 |
| kirrus | geekMePlease: a quick google revealed this, which might help? Sorry, don't have direct knowledge: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11134372 | 15:48 |
| geekMePlease | What is the wireless program name in the newest Ubuntu in terminal? | 16:02 |
| popey | wireless program name? | 16:02 |
| geekMePlease | * there is no mark of my E153 -connection at the right-top corner | 16:02 |
| popey | iwlist / iwconfig / nm-tool ? | 16:02 |
| geekMePlease | popey: yes | 16:02 |
| popey | ah, not that kind of wirelss? | 16:03 |
| popey | 3G | 16:03 |
| geekMePlease | popey: yes | 16:03 |
| geekMePlease | There does not seem to be any driver for the modem E153 | 16:06 |
| geekMePlease | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G | 16:06 |
| popey | what have you tried? | 16:09 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Jonathan Riddell] Tu Parle Bazaar? - http://blogs.kde.org/node/4480 | 16:10 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Jonathan Riddell] 42,000 schools running Kubuntu derivative - http://blogs.kde.org/node/4481 | 16:10 |
| davmor2 | gord: Yay I can haz gamez | 16:10 |
| geekMePlease | It seems to notice that it is a usb-modem but does not get it synced with Network tools: http://pastebin.com/nVX39DaC | 16:11 |
| geekMePlease | popey: above | 16:12 |
| gord | davmor2, :) | 16:12 |
| geekMePlease | the driver is still on alpha -phase 0.7.2 | 16:13 |
| geekMePlease | * ok, I will not buy the given modem. | 16:14 |
| === Hornet- is now known as Hornet | ||
| issyl0 | AlanBell: The release party? Possibly. | 16:22 |
| issyl0 | AlanBell: When's the Farnborough drinks thing again? | 16:22 |
| MartijnVdS | issyl0: http://ubuntu-uk.org/happy-hour/ ? | 16:29 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | issyl0: You mean the one next to popey 's house ? | 16:30 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | 20/10/2011 | 16:30 |
| issyl0 | TheOpenSourcerer: That's the one, yeah. | 16:31 |
| issyl0 | TheOpenSourcerer: Oh yay! | 16:31 |
| issyl0 | I have an excuse not to go to the college party that isn't "I won't be able to get home unless I leave at 10." :P | 16:32 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | lol | 16:32 |
| issyl0 | So, good timing, guys. :-)) | 16:34 |
| issyl0 | (It's very sad though, isn't it? :P) | 16:34 |
| MartijnVdS | issyl0: do you use that excuse a lot then? | 16:35 |
| issyl0 | MartijnVdS: No, but it's true! | 16:35 |
| issyl0 | MartijnVdS: OK, maybe not totally true: The last train from the town in which my college is to the town in which I live is at 11pm, but still, it's the principle... | 16:36 |
| MartijnVdS | issyl0: It's true here as well, if I leave after 23:00, I won't be able to get home (or, I will, but then I won't be able to drink, responsible driving etc.) | 16:36 |
| issyl0 | MartijnVdS: :-( | 16:36 |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ car though | 16:36 |
| issyl0 | Heh. | 16:36 |
| issyl0 | I'm having driving lessons. :-) | 16:36 |
| MartijnVdS | I can drink water all night if it's a good party :) | 16:36 |
| issyl0 | The car my parents were going to let me drive when I pass my test has just broken down, though. :P | 16:37 |
| issyl0 | MartijnVdS: Heh, water. \o/ | 16:37 |
| * MartijnVdS has a yellow SMART | 16:37 | |
| MartijnVdS | like this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Yellow_Smart_Fortwo_side.JPG | 16:38 |
| issyl0 | Hmmmm/. | 16:45 |
| issyl0 | Is it normal that the table headers are slightly offset from the actual columns on http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1277/detail/ ? | 16:46 |
| issyl0 | It annoys me. | 16:46 |
| MartijnVdS | issyl0: which table do you mean? | 16:47 |
| MartijnVdS | ooh the bottom one is all broken | 16:48 |
| * MartijnVdS blames AlanBell | 16:48 | |
| issyl0 | The registration table. | 16:48 |
| issyl0 | Yeah. | 16:48 |
| gord | heh yeah the headers are centred while the items are left aligned | 16:48 |
| gord | that is annoying | 16:48 |
| ali1234 | it's because someone inserted an empty header cell instead of using colspan | 16:48 |
| MartijnVdS | gord: also, the header is wider than the contents | 16:48 |
| issyl0 | It doesn't look like the "edit" button works to edit the table, either, just the information about the event. | 16:49 |
| ali1234 | and it's the header that is left aligned and the contents is centered | 16:49 |
| ali1234 | what you should actually do is make everything centered and merge the empty cell with colspan=2 | 16:49 |
| popey | issyl0: its already been filed as a bug | 16:50 |
| issyl0 | popey: Oh OK. :-) | 16:51 |
| issyl0 | popey: That's good then. | 16:51 |
| popey | (I asked the same thing a few days ago) | 16:51 |
| issyl0 | popey: Aahh. | 16:51 |
| AlanBell | gord: issyl0 yeah, that is a column that has something to do with pictures of people | 17:01 |
| AlanBell | I reported the bug already | 17:02 |
| * brobostigon puts e4 on, for big bang theory, :) | 17:03 | |
| AlanBell | bug 841790 | 17:03 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 841790 in LoCo Team Directory "extra column in table header on attendee list" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/841790 | 17:03 |
| AlanBell | ^^ someone could confirm that if they like | 17:19 |
| AlanBell | bug #734520 | 17:24 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 713873 in Launchpad itself "duplicate for #734520 (in API) Person.logo_link is hard to use and performs poorly" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/713873 | 17:24 |
| AlanBell | ^^ someone commented out the avatars to fix that bug, and forgot to remove the <th> cell | 17:24 |
| * AlanBell pushes the fix | 17:27 | |
| * AlanBell expects it won't get merged | 17:27 | |
| MartijnVdS | you didn't sign over copyright to Canonical? | 17:27 |
| * issyl0 reports a Launchpad bug... | 17:28 | |
| issyl0 | (It's been irritating me for ages; I've finally got around to reporting it.) | 17:28 |
| issyl0 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/852056 | 17:28 |
| lubotu3 | Ubuntu bug 852056 in Launchpad itself "Colons at the end of details on "confirm logon" screen." [Undecided,New] | 17:28 |
| issyl0 | Anyone else? Or am I just a pedant? :P | 17:29 |
| MartijnVdS | let me check | 17:29 |
| * MartijnVdS confirms | 17:29 | |
| MartijnVdS | "Does it affect you?" "Yes, deeply" | 17:30 |
| issyl0 | MartijnVdS: :D | 17:30 |
| issyl0 | MartijnVdS: Yay. :P | 17:30 |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ 90s week on the radio | 17:33 |
| MartijnVdS | Only songs from the 90s, for a week | 17:34 |
| Myrtti | Ace of Base! | 17:35 |
| MartijnVdS | Myrtti: http://www.3fmfan.nl/page/muziekstats for the playlist of the last few hours | 17:35 |
| MartijnVdS | they've only just started | 17:36 |
| daubers | Evening | 17:41 |
| MartijnVdS | \o daubster | 17:41 |
| Neoti | Is torrenting a TV Episode or series illegal if you already have it recorded on a Tivo or V+ box from virgin Media, but want to have it stored on a media centre and plan to delete the recorded one from the relevant device? need help on the legality of this? | 17:54 |
| MartijnVdS | Neoti: don't ask us, ask someone who's trained in legal matters | 17:55 |
| * daubers tries to find his desk | 17:59 | |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Jono Bacon] Getting Older - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/09/16/getting-older/ | 18:10 |
| Hornet | Neoti: no | 18:15 |
| Hornet | it's not illegal to download, it's technically a civil offence to upload however | 18:15 |
| Hornet | but not criminal, and nobody has ever been prosecuted | 18:16 |
| brobostigon | so 12.04 will be the next LTs? | 18:24 |
| hamitron | yeh | 18:24 |
| * hamitron is looking forward to it | 18:25 | |
| brobostigon | i am just thinking about ubuntu server for my vps. | 18:25 |
| hamitron | all my 32 bit machines will be slackware, then 64 bit and servers on ubuntu 12.04 | 18:25 |
| hamitron | is my current plan | 18:25 |
| MartijnVdS | ooh QI tonight | 18:26 |
| brobostigon | and outnumbered, :) | 18:26 |
| brobostigon | i was considering going to the pub, but the tv is too good, | 18:27 |
| * daubers rips his OU course DVD to his HDD and phone | 18:28 | |
| AlanBell | http://www.bcs.org/content/ConWebDoc/41634 issyl0 czajkowski | 18:28 |
| AlanBell | and anyone else in the London area interested in Ada Lovelace day stuff | 18:29 |
| AlanBell | canonical are investigating sorting out nibbles for the launch party \o/ | 18:41 |
| daubers | Hah! Didn't realise that the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band did a cover of "Crazy Words Crazy Tune" | 18:43 |
| zleap | cake :D | 18:44 |
| Azelphur | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/screenshots/September%202011/2011-09-16_19.45.13.png is this normal for minecraft 1.8? | 18:46 |
| Azelphur | or is it a bug :/ | 18:46 |
| MartijnVdS | Azelphur: The magic darkness? | 18:49 |
| MartijnVdS | that's a feature | 18:49 |
| Azelphur | omg | 18:49 |
| Azelphur | even with glowstone and torches? :( | 18:49 |
| MartijnVdS | yes | 18:49 |
| MartijnVdS | only sunlight works | 18:49 |
| Azelphur | that's messed :/ | 18:50 |
| Azelphur | I guess that means underground bunkers are out | 18:50 |
| MartijnVdS | Well glass roofs :) | 18:50 |
| MartijnVdS | it's only below some level I think.. | 18:51 |
| Azelphur | :( | 18:52 |
| Azelphur | I'm pretty much on the bedrock | 18:52 |
| oimon1 | hi guys, where is the banshee cddb configured? it's not recognising a well known cd..can't find the specific site in the prefs | 19:33 |
| MartijnVdS | oimon1: it uses musicbrainz | 19:33 |
| MartijnVdS | oimon1: which CD? | 19:33 |
| oimon1 | nada surf, the weight is a gift | 19:34 |
| MartijnVdS | is it very new? | 19:34 |
| MartijnVdS | no.. it's from '05 | 19:34 |
| oimon1 | musicbrainz picard recognises it | 19:35 |
| MartijnVdS | oimon1: then Banshee should too | 19:35 |
| oimon1 | maybe i've disabled a plugin by accident | 19:35 |
| oimon1 | or banshee is just being lame | 19:36 |
| MartijnVdS | Which Ubuntu version? | 19:36 |
| MartijnVdS | because anything < oneiric won't work because of API changes | 19:37 |
| MartijnVdS | on the musicbrainz site | 19:37 |
| oimon1 | lucid | 19:37 |
| MartijnVdS | that's the problem then | 19:37 |
| MartijnVdS | sound-juicer won't work either (API change as well) | 19:37 |
| oimon1 | banshee 2.01? | 19:37 |
| MartijnVdS | oimon1: 2.1.4 here (oneiric) | 19:37 |
| oimon1 | hmm | 19:38 |
| oimon1 | what's worse is that i have the ppa enabled | 19:40 |
| oimon1 | bug 455461 | 19:41 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 455461 in sound-juicer (Ubuntu Lucid) "Sound Juicer depends on deprecated libmusicbrainz4" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/455461 | 19:41 |
| MartijnVdS | yeah I've been subscribed to those | 19:42 |
| MartijnVdS | sound-juicer is very broken on multi-cd sets atm | 19:42 |
| MartijnVdS | banshe is better but not perfect | 19:42 |
| oimon1 | thanks for pointing me in the right direction :) | 19:44 |
| oimon1 | argh some joker knocked on the door asking to sponsor him for something. dog barks , baby stirs. there's a reason i have a no cold caller sign | 19:45 |
| oimon1 | i dont really trust sound-juicers mp3 settings | 19:47 |
| MartijnVdS | oimon1: it's just a bunch of standard gstreamer settings.. there's a config gui | 19:48 |
| oimon1 | interestingly sound juicer works, so only banshee that's broken | 19:49 |
| MartijnVdS | get a newer banshee :) | 19:50 |
| oimon1 | or a newer ubuntu ...i've got natty running upstairs | 19:50 |
| MartijnVdS | that includes a newer banshee :) | 19:51 |
| oimon1 | but...it's upstairs :) | 19:51 |
| oimon1 | just tried playing openttd but looks like hard work | 19:53 |
| oimon1 | think i'll stick to wii games | 19:53 |
| MartijnVdS | openttd is fun :) | 19:54 |
| oimon1 | looking forward to the long awaited "album artist" bug fix in banshee 2.3 | 19:56 |
| MartijnVdS | oimon1: album artist bugfix? | 19:57 |
| oimon1 | allow to show the "album artist" instead of artist in the artist list. avoids lots of entries when you wife adds a cheesy compilation | 19:58 |
| MartijnVdS | ah | 19:58 |
| MartijnVdS | I browse the album list anyway | 19:58 |
| MartijnVdS | or search | 19:58 |
| oimon1 | that bug makes me use clementine | 19:58 |
| oimon1 | maybe i'm a bit ocd, but i don't like seeing will young and kylie in my artist list | 19:59 |
| MartijnVdS | So give your wife her own account (and ~/Music) | 19:59 |
| oimon1 | she also has some good musics :) | 20:00 |
| MartijnVdS | ln -s ~wife/Music/Good_Album ~/Music/ | 20:00 |
| oimon1 | i try to keep all data under /data | 20:00 |
| oimon1 | then ln Music etc | 20:00 |
| * MartijnVdS waves the FHS in oimon1's face | 20:01 | |
| oimon1 | most of the music i listen to in the car noawadays is to keep my 1yr old son happy | 20:01 |
| MartijnVdS | so.. loud guitar rock? | 20:01 |
| oimon2 | i wonder if canonical will follow MS W8 by putting a bunch of info on the lightdm screen now | 20:11 |
| === oimon2 is now known as oimon1 | ||
| MartijnVdS | maybe... | 20:11 |
| MartijnVdS | but what | 20:11 |
| oimon1 | the usual generic guff like weather info | 20:12 |
| oimon1 | i haven't really followed all the windows press this week but everyone seems to be focussing on the metro pre-login environment | 20:12 |
| oimon1 | buy windows8 , get a cut down splashtop? | 20:13 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: interesting | 20:30 |
| AlanBell | the cake is not a lie | 20:43 |
| Nafallo | apt-btrfs-snapshot is a VERY good idea. | 20:47 |
| Nafallo | it just saved my ass :-) | 20:47 |
| AlanBell | lucky donkey | 20:47 |
| Nafallo | now i have to download all the updates again though :-p | 20:49 |
| brobostigon | is one pound per GB, within and sd good value? | 20:50 |
| Nafallo | should probably figure out which one broke my stuff as well :-p | 20:50 |
| brobostigon | an* | 20:50 |
| Nafallo | brobostigon: SD card? | 20:50 |
| brobostigon | Nafallo: sdhc | 20:50 |
| Nafallo | brobostigon: there is a lot more to it than the size. class is more important in most cases. | 20:51 |
| brobostigon | Nafallo: what do i look for ? i am not very familier with that factor. | 20:51 |
| Nafallo | brobostigon: depends what you're going to use the card for really. | 20:52 |
| AlanBell | class 10 is the fastest | 20:52 |
| brobostigon | Nafallo: using to boot haiku-os from. | 20:52 |
| AlanBell | fast as possible then | 20:52 |
| AlanBell | about £20 for a 16GB class 10 | 20:53 |
| brobostigon | ok, class 10 or nearest? | 20:53 |
| brobostigon | ok, that sounds fine. | 20:53 |
| brobostigon | thank you./ | 20:53 |
| Nafallo | if you want the fastest on the market, yes :-) | 20:54 |
| Nafallo | class 6 minimum recommended for recording 1080p HD videos :-) | 20:55 |
| Nafallo | might give you an idea. | 20:55 |
| AlanBell | it still isn't fast compared to SSD, but is fast enough | 20:55 |
| brobostigon | AlanBell: i will be using this, via the sd slot on my eeepc, and then via a usb sd adaptor on other machines. | 20:56 |
| AlanBell | yeah, I have a machine that boots ubuntu server from SD | 20:56 |
| AlanBell | works fine and is very convenient | 20:57 |
| Nafallo | hrm | 20:57 |
| brobostigon | ok, hmmm. | 20:57 |
| brobostigon | interesting. | 20:58 |
| Nafallo | I need windows on this machine :-/ | 20:58 |
| brobostigon | so highest class possible, | 20:58 |
| brobostigon | http://www.ebuyer.com/282288-exdisplay-verbatim-securedigital-sdhc-class10-16gb-ebr1-43962 | 20:58 |
| brobostigon | would something like that, be fine? | 20:59 |
| AlanBell | sounds good from the URL :) | 21:01 |
| AlanBell | I have VPN stuff going on and browsers are being confused now | 21:01 |
| brobostigon | :( | 21:01 |
| brobostigon | new QI :) | 21:01 |
| brobostigon | john lloyd, who came up with the idea, lives just down the road from me. in "great tew". | 21:02 |
| brobostigon | there is alot of choice. | 21:19 |
| brobostigon | when david gilmour was younger, he looks very alike to my younger brother, would my brother object to being compared to one of the best quitarists on the planet? | 21:41 |
| AlanBell | brobostigon: all the oggcamp videos were recorded on SD cards identical to that | 21:53 |
| brobostigon | AlanBell: ah, :) | 21:53 |
| AlanBell | and my home server boots from one of them | 21:53 |
| brobostigon | the one i s[ecofoed from ebuyer? | 21:54 |
| AlanBell | yeah | 21:54 |
| brobostigon | :) | 21:54 |
| * brobostigon buys. | 21:54 | |
| tiga | qqq | 22:44 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
