| bkerensa | I wonder who the Ubuntu People are :) | 00:43 |
|---|---|---|
| * bkerensa got a e-mail today from someone in Portland trying to install Ubuntu and he said he e-mailed the Ubuntu people and they directed him to me =o | 00:43 | |
| seidos | huh | 00:43 |
| * seidos scratches mind made head | 00:44 | |
| bkerensa | Kinda cool guy though... Gonna meet him at Starbucks on Sunday and give him a Ubuntu CD and Ubuntu User Magazine and invite him to LoCo stuff :D | 00:44 |
| seidos | green tea | 00:45 |
| seidos | it's good, and good for you | 00:45 |
| seidos | i got one of those starbucks cards, and had like 4 glasses | 00:50 |
| seidos | you can get a "for here" cup/glass at starbucks | 00:51 |
| seidos | makes starbucks more bar like, not that they have stools there | 00:51 |
| === seidos is now known as Hume | ||
| === Hume is now known as seidos | ||
| DarkwingDuck | Is the planet broken? | 03:21 |
| pleia2 | DarkwingDuck: yes, I submitted a ticket earlier today | 03:35 |
| DarkwingDuck | :/ | 03:37 |
| DarkwingDuck | Just when I ran a call for translators. | 03:37 |
| DarkwingDuck | Oh well. | 03:37 |
| pleia2 | I'm really hoping it's fixed soon, it's vital to how the community spreads news, and without it we have no ubuntu weekly newsletter either | 03:38 |
| DarkwingDuck | Oh I agree. | 03:38 |
| * DarkwingDuck mutters | 03:38 | |
| DarkwingDuck | Know anyone looking for a mobile workstation? | 03:38 |
| DarkwingDuck | Looking to sell my ThinkPad W700 | 03:39 |
| pleia2 | specs? | 03:39 |
| DarkwingDuck | http://paste.kde.org/122113/ plus case and 2nd battery | 03:42 |
| DarkwingDuck | 1400 +shipping | 03:43 |
| DarkwingDuck | Or, trade for a Zareason Strata Pro 13 with 4gig ram + 8cell batt :P | 03:46 |
| DarkwingDuck | It's just the weight, I'm tired of lugging it around. | 03:47 |
| pleia2 | vmx \o/ | 03:47 |
| pleia2 | heh, yeah | 03:47 |
| DarkwingDuck | It's close to 9 lbs. | 03:47 |
| DarkwingDuck | You saw it at SCaLE back in feb. | 03:48 |
| pleia2 | the size is what really put me off to the larger strata pro, otherwise it's a great laptop | 03:48 |
| * pleia2 spoiled by netbook | 03:49 | |
| DarkwingDuck | I want something light. | 03:49 |
| pleia2 | I really love the form factor of the cr-48, it's light, decently-sized and has great battery life | 03:52 |
| DarkwingDuck | cr-48? | 03:53 |
| pleia2 | the trial chromebook | 03:55 |
| DarkwingDuck | ahhhh | 04:03 |
| seidos | hey DarkwingDuck | 04:34 |
| seidos | hi everybody! | 04:34 |
| Mark___ | hello? | 04:43 |
| DarkwingDuck | hi? | 04:45 |
| DarkwingDuck | hi | 04:46 |
| Mark___ | hey :) | 04:46 |
| seidos | hi hey | 04:47 |
| seidos | gah, i don't know what to make of the world today. i'm going to sleep early though. | 04:47 |
| seidos | still have stuff to do, though | 04:48 |
| DarkwingDuck | Trying to sell my laptop :( | 04:48 |
| seidos | why's that? | 04:50 |
| seidos | $? | 04:50 |
| DarkwingDuck | No, it's too heavy for me with stuff. | 04:50 |
| DarkwingDuck | So, I nee th $$ for a lighter lappy | 04:50 |
| DarkwingDuck | specs: http://paste.kde.org/122113/ comes with 2nd battery and case. It's a Lenovo ThinkPad W700 | 04:51 |
| DarkwingDuck | 1400USD | 04:51 |
| seidos | Lenovo is chinese | 04:52 |
| seidos | i wonder what system76 or zareason's system are from | 04:52 |
| seidos | *where | 04:52 |
| Mark___ | Lenovo's are pretty good quality though | 04:52 |
| seidos | ah, yeah, i have a 13", but i don't even take it anywhere since the battery essentially died, and cord is hanging by a thread | 04:52 |
| seidos | yeah, i hear good things about them | 04:52 |
| seidos | probably same specs as the IBMs | 04:53 |
| DarkwingDuck | Its nice | 04:53 |
| seidos | it's probably good to help out the local stores though if you can | 04:53 |
| seidos | not telling you what to do, just saying | 04:53 |
| seidos | i'm not even sure what i would get now if i had to buy a system | 04:53 |
| Mark___ | i have a Lenovo ideapad y560 | 04:54 |
| DarkwingDuck | If you know of anyone looking... | 04:54 |
| seidos | probably a 14" special | 04:54 |
| Mark___ | i cant think of anyone :/ | 04:54 |
| seidos | not that there are any stores around here that sell them | 04:54 |
| seidos | i can ask around at the ashram | 04:54 |
| Mark___ | where in CA do u guys live? | 04:55 |
| DarkwingDuck | San Diego | 04:55 |
| Mark___ | me too :) | 04:55 |
| DarkwingDuck | really? :) | 04:55 |
| Mark___ | ya, north county san diego | 04:55 |
| DarkwingDuck | ahh, I'm down in Imperial Beach. | 04:55 |
| DarkwingDuck | On tuesday we are having an Ubuntu Hour | 04:56 |
| DarkwingDuck | In hillcrest. | 04:56 |
| seidos | did you try craigslist? | 04:56 |
| seidos | that's how i sold my old macbook pro | 04:56 |
| Mark___ | i doubt ill be able to go because of school and football | 04:56 |
| seidos | oh Mark___ isn't MarkDude | 04:56 |
| seidos | i'm in LA | 04:57 |
| Mark___ | ya, i just joined into this channel after using ubuntu for not really long, but ive known about it for a long time | 04:58 |
| DarkwingDuck | Not yet. I'm going to put it on craigslist tomorrow when I find my windowz CDs | 04:59 |
| seidos | hey akk | 05:02 |
| seidos | well, welcome Mark___ | 05:02 |
| seidos | good luck DarkwingDuck, i sold my macbook pro for $1200 i think | 05:03 |
| gueriLLaPunK | near Sacramento here | 05:04 |
| seidos | sacramento, how's the new governor? | 05:05 |
| seidos | i forget his name, he's been working for the government for years though | 05:06 |
| seidos | i can kind of see his face though | 05:06 |
| seidos | ah, Jerry Brown | 05:06 |
| seidos | i think he used to be DA | 05:07 |
| seidos | oh, Attorney General | 05:07 |
| seidos | he's a catholic, hopefully he wasn't molested | 05:08 |
| seidos | wow, went to Yale, didn't know that | 05:08 |
| seidos | anyway, there really isn't any reason to stay up anymore | 05:10 |
| seidos | night all | 05:10 |
| gueriLLaPunK | lol wow | 05:10 |
| gueriLLaPunK | good night | 05:10 |
| Mark___ | :/ | 05:19 |
| Mark___ | o hai :p | 05:20 |
| pleia2 | DarkwingDuck: btw, I'll get the banner and tablecloth shipped down next week (need to find a tube to fit the banner, it's larger than the ones jdeslip made) | 07:01 |
| pleia2 | ok, heading toward bed now | 07:08 |
| bkerensa | \o/ MarkDude is here | 16:34 |
| * MarkDude is here | 16:35 | |
| MarkDude | almost over jet lag | 16:35 |
| MarkDude | stayed in Ohio toooo long | 16:35 |
| seidos | you're alive! | 16:35 |
| MarkDude | yes | 16:40 |
| MarkDude | hey there seidos | 16:40 |
| seidos | pat on the head, a scratch behind the ear | 16:41 |
| raevol | HAPPY FRIDAY | 16:41 |
| seidos | venus lock | 16:41 |
| seidos | haven't sat under a tree today, but that's the plan for later | 16:41 |
| seidos | like rip van winkle | 16:42 |
| pleia2 | friday++ | 16:42 |
| seidos | sunday, moonday, mars day, mercury day, thor day, venus day, saturn day | 16:43 |
| raevol | mers = tir? | 16:43 |
| seidos | friday probably is the best | 16:43 |
| raevol | mercury = odin? | 16:43 |
| raevol | venus = friiga? | 16:43 |
| raevol | frigga* | 16:43 |
| bkerensa | =o | 16:44 |
| seidos | i think | 16:45 |
| pleia2 | raevol: what do you do that you're always so excited for 5PM to come? if you don't mind me asking | 16:45 |
| raevol | customer service :) | 16:46 |
| raevol | pleia2: it's like working with kids, except the kids have a massive sense of entitlement and know cuss words | 16:46 |
| pleia2 | ah, customer service will do that :) | 16:47 |
| raevol | yea, and it's for a web service, so the kids also don't know how to use computers | 16:47 |
| pleia2 | oh boy | 16:47 |
| raevol | and tend to be small business owners, so that sense of entitlement is amplified | 16:47 |
| * pleia2 nods | 16:47 | |
| raevol | know anywhere that's hiring? :) i'm smart and cute! | 16:48 |
| pleia2 | haha, where are you located? what's your expertise? | 16:48 |
| raevol | san diego, trying to move to san francisco, but either works | 16:48 |
| raevol | expertise in LINUX, web design, IT, dance, acting, film, A/V, Djing, customer service | 16:49 |
| raevol | also sound design | 16:50 |
| pleia2 | quite the diversity there :) | 16:50 |
| raevol | also writing, currently enrolled in a technical communication certification | 16:50 |
| bkerensa | Talend is hiring in the Bay Area | 16:52 |
| bkerensa | http://www.talend.com/jobs/jobs-talend.php | 16:52 |
| seidos | the economic club of washington d.c.: http://economicclub.org | 16:52 |
| bkerensa | I know their Community Manager and the company supports FOSS | 16:52 |
| bkerensa | :) | 16:52 |
| bkerensa | Talend (Even though they are California based) paid for Ubuntu Oregon's Booth Electric | 16:53 |
| raevol | hmm, i don't think i qualify for any of those side from possibly the sales one, and i want to get out of sales :( | 16:53 |
| seidos | what's so bad about sales? | 16:54 |
| seidos | do you have to sell your soul to survive? | 16:54 |
| raevol | i don't like convincing people to buy things, because i don't like to buy things | 16:55 |
| raevol | i also don't like convincing people | 16:55 |
| seidos | yeah, me neither. but that could be fine if the job has a base salary to it. | 16:56 |
| pleia2 | sales certainly takes a certain kind of person | 16:56 |
| seidos | i remember when i worked in a/v, there was like 1 nice salesman, and he was stressed perpetually | 16:57 |
| seidos | he would put his reputation on the line, try to be the customer's friend, then would stress if the company failed to deliver | 16:57 |
| seidos | and fail it did at one point | 16:57 |
| seidos | it seems like sales should really be "spreading the word", anyway, preaching to the choir i bet | 16:58 |
| raevol | i agree, if people don't come to you already interested in your product, you've failed somewhere other than sales | 16:59 |
| grantbow | fyi, live talk with Tiff, some friends and I in #dreamfish if anyone cares to talk with us | 17:00 |
| nhaines | Hmm, not necessarily. There are plenty of reasons a customer might not be interested but you can definitely get them excited for your product. | 17:04 |
| raevol | you can, for sure, but that's the part i don't like doing :) unless it's a really amazing product that i use myself | 17:05 |
| seidos | yeah, if you aren't willing to use the product yourself, something is wrong | 17:05 |
| nhaines | It may not be a product that you need. | 17:06 |
| seidos | well, it can get complicated. but convincing someone that they need something they don't is a big problem | 17:07 |
| pleia2 | nhaines: at all interested in doing a User Days session next Saturday? :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/natty | 17:08 |
| pleia2 | our last slot is at 3PM | 17:09 |
| nhaines | Haha, one slot left eh? Maybe. :) | 17:09 |
| nhaines | Any topics they're looking for? | 17:09 |
| pleia2 | we don't have a "Switching from another OS" talk yet (just an Ubuntu Equivalent Programs) one | 17:10 |
| nhaines | Hmm. I could probably do that. | 17:10 |
| pleia2 | another popular one was how to install trusted software | 17:10 |
| nhaines | Heh, it's getting harder to do that since I switched 6 years ago. :) | 17:11 |
| pleia2 | so using software center, why you shouldn't implicitly trust PPAs (but you can somteimes!), discussing random tarballs you find online... | 17:11 |
| nhaines | I'll do "switching from another OS" because I can talk about backups and I work for Western Digital so I know backups. :) | 17:11 |
| nhaines | I can throw in Software Center stuff. | 17:11 |
| pleia2 | cool, software center stuff is always confusing for people coming from windows | 17:11 |
| pleia2 | (then again, most people understand "app store" now) | 17:12 |
| pleia2 | ok, adding you to the schedule now! thanks :) | 17:12 |
| nhaines | You're welcome. :) | 17:12 |
| akk | Backups and software center seem interesting enough to deserve a session, without cloaking it in being "switching from". | 17:12 |
| akk | There might be people interested in those topics who have long since switched. | 17:13 |
| nhaines | Ninja backup training! | 17:13 |
| pleia2 | I was assuming he meant "back up stuff before you install ubuntu" rather than a comprehensive exploration of backups in linux itself | 17:14 |
| akk | Oh! I thought he meant backups once in ubuntu. | 17:15 |
| nhaines | akk: I was going to cover both. :) | 17:15 |
| nhaines | also pleia2 ^^ | 17:15 |
| pleia2 | sounds good | 17:16 |
| pleia2 | it is complete \o/ | 17:17 |
| pleia2 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/natty | 17:17 |
| pleia2 | ok, back to work | 17:17 |
| nhaines | \o/ | 17:17 |
| nhaines | Now I just have to remember to write a script. :) | 17:22 |
| * MarkDude just saw a spider in the garden grab a big ass bug that would have been eating the plants | 18:16 | |
| pleia2 | spiders++ | 18:16 |
| * MarkDude thanked the spider, and thought of you seidos | 18:16 | |
| MarkDude | The whole circle of life thing | 18:17 |
| MarkDude | :) | 18:17 |
| MarkDude | Right after walking into bigass spider web- face first. Nothing like spider to the face to make you lose your cool and jump around waving wlidly | 18:18 |
| akk | spiders are good. Especially outdoors and not dangling in front of my screen. | 18:18 |
| akk | oh, yeah, and not getting caught in your face and clothes as you walk by | 18:18 |
| MarkDude | True akk, there is a minimum safe distance they can be appreciated | 18:18 |
| MarkDude | How are your gooseberries doing? | 18:19 |
| seidos | i really should only be scared of widows and recluses | 18:19 |
| * MarkDude has all sorts of flowers, and maybe 8 plants | 18:19 | |
| akk | Excellently, thanks! The original one is a big bush (it's still two plants) ... lots of berries on it though none have dropped recently. | 18:19 |
| seidos | but biology makes this a challenge | 18:19 |
| akk | Then I have two youngsters that grew from seed -- one of them is almost as big as the original was when you gave it to me. | 18:20 |
| MarkDude | seidos: well scared is relative. I was certainly startled with having one on my face. | 18:20 |
| akk | (They're still indoors in pots, but I just repotted both of them to bigger pots) | 18:20 |
| akk | And a tiny sprout in the kitchen window that lives but isn't growing -- probably needs to be repotted. | 18:21 |
| MarkDude | They grow at weird rates. They deal with wilting rather well | 18:21 |
| akk | Yes, I've noticed that if I have to be out of town for too long in hot weather, they don't die, they just stop growing and hold steady until they get more water. | 18:21 |
| akk | Wonderful plants. :) | 18:21 |
| seidos | MarkDude: even webs bother me, and it takes will to remain calm. | 18:22 |
| seidos | so, yeah, as long as one doesn't panic, i guess a little fear isn't a problem | 18:23 |
| MarkDude | Well properness in panic | 18:23 |
| seidos | i remember when i was a kid i investigated a spider web, and then felt something on my leg and saw it crawling on my ankle | 18:24 |
| seidos | freaked me out | 18:24 |
| seidos | did the "freaky spider mambo" | 18:24 |
| MarkDude | Spider on me was time to wave web off me wildly. Moments later tho, seeing spider with bug in web- THAT spider had no panic to offer, just help for the garden. | 18:24 |
| seidos | i'm better about it these days, but there is still uncertainty | 18:25 |
| seidos | there was a black and white spider on a friend's hand the other day | 18:25 |
| seidos | he's in his 60s, and calmly asked "do you know what kind of spider that is?" | 18:25 |
| MarkDude | Your Buddhist edge can appreciate the eating spider should not startle you. As long as you SEE his web | 18:26 |
| seidos | it had the shape of a black widow, but white spots on the abdomen | 18:26 |
| MarkDude | lol | 18:26 |
| * MarkDude is not quite that cool with spiders- wish I was tho | 18:26 | |
| seidos | no kidding | 18:26 |
| seidos | i'm pretty cool with bees | 18:26 |
| seidos | one landed on me the other day and it didn't bother me | 18:27 |
| seidos | wasps are different story | 18:27 |
| * MarkDude likes watching bees gather pollen on flowers | 18:29 | |
| MarkDude | Geeknic next weekend- sat in Los Gatos | 18:30 |
| akk | \o/ | 18:30 |
| MarkDude | FB is archiving the Gidget Kitchen group :( | 18:30 |
| seidos | i made a new card | 18:31 |
| MarkDude | I use FB all the time- but I almost felt like using the word hate to describe some of their changes, instead will use word annoyed | 18:31 |
| seidos | need to find some heavier paper to print them on | 18:31 |
| seidos | facebook = irc + picassa? | 18:31 |
| MarkDude | seidos: Kinkos will let you buy a few loose sheets- in varying colors | 18:32 |
| seidos | and maybe a text file for your contacts | 18:32 |
| seidos | MarkDude: cool, i should find one around here. will go after lunch | 18:32 |
| seidos | i also re-registered to vote today as an independent | 18:32 |
| seidos | i took an extra voter registration card | 18:32 |
| MarkDude | Well it is time for me to re-do long term GK plan, and start asking for help | 18:33 |
| seidos | i need to brainstorm a shorter URL for fictionalphilosophy | 18:33 |
| seidos | nobody remembers it by name | 18:34 |
| seidos | most of the people i run into these days could care less though, they are more interested in jobs | 18:34 |
| MarkDude | Well forget numbers- one person caring is enough, IMHO | 18:35 |
| seidos | maybe i should start hanging out in beverly hills more | 18:35 |
| seidos | one person caring is sufficient, but imagination hopes for bigger and better things for all parties | 18:36 |
| seidos | perhaps separation is ultimately necessary | 18:36 |
| MarkDude | Affluence does help some things in life happen. Not all of course. | 18:36 |
| seidos | i'm not even talking about affluence, just minimum wage :) | 18:36 |
| * MarkDude needs to hang out more with rich folks, their donations can help GK and Partimus | 18:37 | |
| seidos | i read poverty level is the highest its been in 17 years | 18:37 |
| seidos | the idea is, get money, hire someone | 18:37 |
| MarkDude | Well yes, not that you would be affluent, just more they might have more job offers than say South Central LA | 18:37 |
| MarkDude | % wise | 18:38 |
| seidos | USC is in south central | 18:38 |
| seidos | they had a lot of bikes there, i think i went on a tuesday | 18:38 |
| akk | All colleges have a lot of bikes. | 18:39 |
| seidos | not so | 18:40 |
| seidos | you have to see it, it's like swarming | 18:40 |
| seidos | ucla, cerritos, csulb, nothing like it | 18:40 |
| seidos | when i was at stanford, and berkeley too | 18:40 |
| MarkDude | Portland feels like the whole town is swarming with bikes | 18:41 |
| seidos | maybe it was winter break | 18:41 |
| seidos | i wonder if denver is the same | 18:41 |
| seidos | did you ever get a pair of vibram five finger akk? | 18:41 |
| seidos | i'm not sure how much they are these days, but i'm finding vans to be sufficient up to 5 miles | 18:42 |
| seidos | they will have to do | 18:42 |
| akk | no, those things are way too expensive and I don't think I want the separate toes thing | 18:42 |
| seidos | yeah, they are kind of gimmicky. | 18:42 |
| seidos | when i ran barefoot i found the bottom of my feet got raw, nothing else | 18:42 |
| akk | I've been doing occasional barefoot walks, but I still want to find a way to make a soft-soled shoe (like the moccassins I used to have). | 18:42 |
| seidos | hmmm, yeah, even the vans i have are pretty thick, but they're lighter than most shoes, and they're cheap | 18:43 |
| akk | Nobody seems to sell them, but I saw a moccassin-making kit at Michael's that I might try. | 18:43 |
| seidos | there's an idea | 18:43 |
| * MarkDude misses living near beach. Running barefoot in the sand is rather good for your feet | 18:43 | |
| akk | It is! I wish I had sand nearby. | 18:43 |
| seidos | yeah, running on the beach is pretty low impact | 18:43 |
| seidos | running on grass is pretty good too, but there really aren't stretches of grass here | 18:44 |
| seidos | and if they are, you have to run to get to them o_o | 18:44 |
| MarkDude | lol | 18:45 |
| seidos | i've been riding the bike quite a bit | 18:45 |
| akk | I love the barefoot-on-grass feel, but large expanses of grass around here are likely to have dog poop bombs hidden in them. :( | 18:45 |
| seidos | a sikh helped fix my brothers old one | 18:45 |
| seidos | i'm less concerned over dog poop than i am of sharp stones and glass | 18:45 |
| MarkDude | crap happens | 18:46 |
| seidos | i've stepped in poop barefoot, it isn't so bad | 18:46 |
| seidos | >_< | 18:46 |
| akk | d and I found the most amazing grass a few days ago! Went for a walk (with shoes) near the SJ heritage rose garden | 18:46 |
| akk | and they had this weird grass, super long blades (like a foot or longer) lying sideways in little piles | 18:47 |
| akk | and it was super springy/cushiony, like walking on pillows | 18:47 |
| seidos | a sikh i met wants to go hiking, but, i dunno | 18:47 |
| seidos | i think i should be meditating more | 18:47 |
| seidos | sounds surreal | 18:47 |
| seidos | pillow grass o_o | 18:47 |
| seidos | like a dream | 18:47 |
| seidos | there's a trail here that i know of, but it's dirt trails, not really meadow like | 18:48 |
| seidos | sounds like something pretty unique to your area | 18:48 |
| seidos | jealous me steals SJ from you | 18:48 |
| seidos | muahaha | 18:48 |
| akk | No, I'm pretty sure it's just a type of grass people can plant -- I'd read about it before but never walked on it. | 18:48 |
| seidos | personally i think we should plant life grow more around here | 18:49 |
| seidos | everyone's yard has like a proverbial crew cut or a flat top | 18:49 |
| seidos | but, letting stuff grow may mean less jobs...sooo, something else would need to be done | 18:49 |
| seidos | *let | 18:49 |
| akk | I don't much like mowed grass either ... I like things a bit wilder. | 18:50 |
| nhaines | Guess what I just signed for here at my cubicle? http://ubuntuone.com/5jesYEs93iNlFkwLq67Op9 | 18:50 |
| grantbow | nice | 18:53 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 18:53 |
| seidos | let me know when telekinesis is working | 18:55 |
| seidos | or better yet, i remember reading a clone wars novel, and some jedi master had a wound on his hand, and he just stared at it and made it feel better | 18:55 |
| akk | Wow, it is not easy to identify grasses with google. I give up trying to find this stuff. | 18:56 |
| seidos | that would be a useful skill | 18:56 |
| seidos | maybe hash is the best grass to grow | 18:56 |
| seidos | make sails and "juice" | 18:56 |
| seidos | or hemp, rather | 18:56 |
| seidos | hash is probably a different strain | 18:56 |
| seidos | the evil kind | 18:57 |
| seidos | exeunt | 18:57 |
| akk | Something that gets you arrested is probably not the best plant to grow in the yard. | 18:58 |
| philipballew | is there anything different that happens if i enter sudo su then if i enter just sudo with each command? | 19:46 |
| pleia2 | strictly speaking "sudo su" (not "sudo su -") wouldn't be a huge difference, you will be able to do things like pipes and command redirects which are tricker with sudo | 19:51 |
| pleia2 | and it won't log your commands to auth.log | 19:51 |
| pleia2 | (sudo logs to auth.log, awesome for systems with shared administration via sudo) | 19:51 |
| pleia2 | "sudo su" also logs to the /root/.bash_history rather than /home/user/.bash.history | 19:52 |
| pleia2 | s/bash.history/bash_history | 19:52 |
| philipballew | dropping to a root shell is easier sometimes | 19:59 |
| philipballew | but only for convience | 19:59 |
| philipballew | yet I like to know what i have typed in before | 20:00 |
| bkerensa | Anyone in San Francisco wanna go to the TwilioCon After Party? I got a link for free tickets... Maybe a good opp to advocate for Ubuntu? pleia2? | 21:10 |
| === ryaxnbubu is now known as ryaxnb | ||
| bkerensa | Big SF Tech Party for any Ubuntu Users in the Bay Area: http://www.twilio.com/conference/ringdown/ | 21:12 |
| === DarkwingDuck is now known as DWonderly | ||
| === DWonderly is now known as DarkwingDuck | ||
| pleia2 | bkerensa: thans anyway, but it's hard enough to get me to go to after parties of conferences I attend ;) | 21:53 |
| pleia2 | s/than/thanks | 21:54 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: What... Thats the best part of conferences that and the networking opportunity in the hallways | 21:54 |
| pleia2 | oh bah | 21:54 |
| bkerensa | :D | 21:54 |
| bkerensa | lol | 21:54 |
| pleia2 | bkerensa: oh no, I am very shy | 21:54 |
| bkerensa | :) | 21:54 |
| raevol | why would you go to conferences if you don't go to parties :P | 21:54 |
| raevol | this is like why would you do theater if you don't go to the cast party | 21:55 |
| bkerensa | idk right raevol? | 21:55 |
| pleia2 | I go to conferences to learn things and collaborate! | 21:55 |
| bkerensa | Why would you buy salad and not buy ranch dressing :D | 21:55 |
| pleia2 | parties are not my scene :) | 21:55 |
| * bkerensa goes to network | 21:55 | |
| bkerensa | Learning for me is book based or DIY :) | 21:55 |
| raevol | i tend to do more learning and collaborating at the parties | 21:55 |
| * bkerensa learned that giant sized robotic metal spiders that blow flames do exist at a OSCON party | 21:56 | |
| raevol | link? | 21:56 |
| * bkerensa finds a flickr pic | 21:56 | |
| pleia2 | it's sad that I miss opportunities to network, but I'm really not very good at it and I'm much happier hiding from people at the end of the day | 21:58 |
| bkerensa | raevol: http://imgur.com/ESQOw <-- Robotic Giant Sized Metal Spider that blows 15 foot flames :D | 21:59 |
| raevol | sounds like you need some self confidence | 21:59 |
| bkerensa | =o | 21:59 |
| raevol | bkerensa: it's everything that i hoped and dreamed | 21:59 |
| bkerensa | raevol: It was scary because in addition to that they had this flame cannons all around the party that were periodically shooting fire balls and making very loud popping noises | 22:00 |
| * bkerensa was concerned that the pyro guys might make a mistake | 22:00 | |
| raevol | hmm | 22:00 |
| raevol | hahahha | 22:00 |
| pleia2 | raevol: just shy and an introvert, self confidence is grand but still doesn't change that I am not great with people and need serious recharge time after a day full of conferenceness :) | 22:00 |
| pleia2 | there are reasons I'm a sysadmin and not a community manager ;) | 22:01 |
| raevol | hmm i see | 22:01 |
| pleia2 | but IRC is ok, I'm not shy on IRC | 22:01 |
| nhaines | pleia2: that is why Ubucon is so exhausting for me. | 22:02 |
| pleia2 | nhaines: I bet! | 22:02 |
| nhaines | Doing intros and outros is a blast and Q&A with jokes is a BLAST but man, that's more social time than I used to pack into SCaLE itself. | 22:02 |
| raevol | i want to go to scale this year so bad | 22:03 |
| pleia2 | scale is cool | 22:04 |
| nhaines | This is probably the most egregious retconning of the Star Wars trilogy yet! http://i.imgur.com/xWweh.gif | 22:04 |
| pleia2 | haha, oh nooo | 22:05 |
| nhaines | pleia2: :) | 22:06 |
| nhaines | pleia2: also I think you meant "No. Nooooo!" | 22:07 |
| pleia2 | lol | 22:08 |
| pleia2 | indeed | 22:08 |
| pleia2 | also, do you know how many times I've bought star wars already? | 22:08 |
| * pleia2 sticks with the DVDs for now | 22:08 | |
| nhaines | pleia2: I have the THX-enhanced ones (P&S boo!) and then the Special Edition on VHS, I have all of them on DVD (but German copy of Episode I) and now I have the Blu-rays. | 22:10 |
| nhaines | pleia2: the worst thing about Ubucon is in addition to the intros and Q&A where I'm talking and being personable to every single person in the room at least once, people insist on talking to me between sessions! | 22:11 |
| raevol | social interaction quotient exceeded | 22:12 |
| raevol | so i'm a salsa dancer | 22:12 |
| raevol | and sometimes when out dancing some girl will get too talkative | 22:12 |
| raevol | so then you just ask her to dance and that ends the conversation | 22:13 |
| raevol | pretty effective | 22:13 |
| nhaines | I already don't sleep well the night before, plus picking up my videographer adds an extra hour to the commute. :P | 22:13 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: I'm shy when it comes to talking | 22:15 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: as in public speeches.... I get all shaky and uhh nervous :) | 22:15 |
| nhaines | bkerensa: that's the easiest time to talk! | 22:15 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: But 1 on 1 or small groups is no big deal | 22:15 |
| nhaines | Everyone's there to see you and they're hanging on every word! | 22:16 |
| bkerensa | LOL | 22:16 |
| bkerensa | exactly | 22:16 |
| nhaines | If you take a moment to compose a thought, the silence actually focuses their attention and builds anticipation! | 22:16 |
| bkerensa | nhaines: Yeah and projector helps too :D | 22:16 |
| nhaines | During a Powerpoint class I was teaching I talked about how a prop like a water bottle can be a good friend if you need to compose a thought, and of course, the one secret weapon, the most powerful tool you can ever use is-- *drink water calmly, make eye contact all around* -- the dramatic pause. | 22:18 |
| pleia2 | nhaines: I had the trilogy on CED (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitance_Electronic_Disc) too, that's how I first saw it | 22:19 |
| nhaines | pleia2: I read about that once in a book! | 22:19 |
| pleia2 | nhaines: I didn't actually know what they were called until a couple years ago, people always thought I was talking about laserdiscs when I explained CEDs ;) | 22:21 |
| pleia2 | "The format was commonly known as "videodisc", leading to much confusion with the contemporary Laserdisc format" | 22:21 |
| nhaines | pleia2: they are videodiscs. :) | 22:21 |
| pleia2 | indeed! | 22:21 |
| nhaines | pleia2: I think I first saw Star Wars broadcast on KTLA channel 5. | 22:22 |
| nhaines | I remember being like 7 or so and just sort of amazed at the boarding of the cruiser and how real everything looked and how scary Darth Vader was. | 22:22 |
| pleia2 | bkerensa: I'm with nhaines, public speaking is easier if you practice and are prepared, my issue is conversation without a point or goal, with a presentation these things are very clear | 22:23 |
| pleia2 | it takes some time getting over being nervous, but there are lots of great books about public speaking | 22:23 |
| nhaines | pleia2: oh, I use silence as a weapon if the audience isn't focusing, haha. | 22:24 |
| pleia2 | nhaines: darth vader gave me nightmares! but I think I was too oblivious to the world to notice that things looked real, why wouldn't they look real? movies look real. :) | 22:24 |
| pleia2 | daleks gave me worse nightmares though | 22:24 |
| * bkerensa is getting a ChromeBook from Samsung next week :) for free :D Google failed me | 22:24 | |
| pleia2 | I am still kind of scared of daleks :) | 22:25 |
| nhaines | pleia2: it was something about the visceral sound the blasters made, and the way the bolts threw sparks when they hit the guys (that's been largely edited out since). | 22:25 |
| pleia2 | did they ever released non-special edition dvds of the original trilogy? | 22:27 |
| pleia2 | I know there were rumors about it, I never followed through with actually figuring that out | 22:27 |
| nhaines | pleia2: yes! They are letterboxed 4:3 transfers of the Laserdisc releases. | 22:28 |
| nhaines | Wanted to buy them but couldn't bring myself to do so. :P | 22:28 |
| pleia2 | nhaines: ah, this? http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Trilogy-Widescreen-Theatrical/dp/B001EN71DG/ref=sr_1_3?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1316212157&sr=1-3 | 22:30 |
| nhaines | pleia2: those're the ones. | 22:30 |
| bkerensa | Have any of you been down to George Lucas studios in SF? | 22:31 |
| pleia2 | bah, too late now to get them | 22:31 |
| bkerensa | at the presidio | 22:31 |
| nhaines | pleia2: you still can, if you hate money. | 22:31 |
| pleia2 | haha | 22:31 |
| pleia2 | bkerensa: no, I don't think it's really a place you can visit | 22:31 |
| pleia2 | they won't shoot you like at skywalker ranch in marin though ;) | 22:32 |
| bkerensa | why could one not visit? | 22:32 |
| pleia2 | isn't it just an office? | 22:32 |
| bkerensa | nah | 22:32 |
| bkerensa | full studios | 22:32 |
| bkerensa | they do a lot of production for upcoming stuff there I thought? | 22:33 |
| pleia2 | you can't just walk into studios either! | 22:33 |
| pleia2 | :) | 22:33 |
| bkerensa | e-mail their PR people :P | 22:34 |
| pleia2 | it's near Starfleet Academy | 22:34 |
| pleia2 | :P | 22:34 |
| bkerensa | oh geez my printer ink alarm went off | 22:34 |
| bkerensa | :( | 22:34 |
| bkerensa | no more ink | 22:34 |
| pleia2 | Dear PR people, I LIKE STAR WARS, CAN I VISIT? THANKS. | 22:35 |
| pleia2 | (PS: take back the prequels) | 22:35 |
| pleia2 | (PPS: lego starwars is cool though) | 22:35 |
| nhaines | bwahaha | 22:36 |
| nhaines | pleia2: Star Wars: The Clone Wars is pretty nifty though. | 22:36 |
| pleia2 | there is a walt disney museum in the presidio, I've been meaning to go to that | 22:36 |
| nhaines | Especially once they calmed the heck down on just quoting catchphrases from the films. | 22:36 |
| pleia2 | nhaines: yeah, my cousin was telling me that recently, I am skeptical but I'll probably give it a chance eventually | 22:36 |
| nhaines | pleia2: they're *fun*. It's like walking into Episode III and the first 30 minutes are just really fun, like the OT. | 22:37 |
| nhaines | pleia2: also the Jar Jar episode is hilarious. | 22:37 |
| pleia2 | oh dear | 22:37 |
| nhaines | Or maybe that's Anthony Daniels. But they don't tone down Jar Jar at all. :) | 22:37 |
| pleia2 | I think I'm mostly mad at the prequels for making me hate anakin | 22:38 |
| pleia2 | he was not at all likable | 22:39 |
| pleia2 | oh hey, I still have work to do | 22:40 |
| nhaines | pleia2: maybe I would be disappointed by watching Unhook the Stars again, but I'm fairly certain Jake Lloyd could act. | 22:44 |
| nhaines | But I can clearly identify performance issues from him in Episode I which were director issues. | 22:44 |
| nhaines | And I *know* Natalie Portman and Liam Neeson can act. | 22:45 |
| pleia2 | same with medium anakin, that actor could act elsewhere too | 22:45 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 22:45 |
| nhaines | Not sure about Temura Morrison but his redubs of Jeremy Bullochs' lines in Empire are so flat that it *can't* be anything but Lucas's fault. | 22:46 |
| nhaines | All he had to do was give the same delivery but in his voice. :P | 22:46 |
| pleia2 | and Ewan McGregor is always hot! I mean a good actor! | 22:46 |
| nhaines | haha | 22:47 |
| nhaines | I don't think I've seen him in anything else but he does a fine Sir Alec Guiness impression and does a really good job in the prequels. | 22:47 |
| pleia2 | he's been in a lot, probably best known for Trainspotting though | 22:48 |
| nhaines | pleia2: what's sort of odd is the German dub, listening to his voice actor try an impression of Ewan McGregor doing an impression of Sir Alec Guiness. | 22:48 |
| pleia2 | lol | 22:49 |
| pleia2 | nice | 22:49 |
| nhaines | pleia2: the first time I watched it, when Watto showed up speaking Huttese, the subtitles came up in German and it broke my mind. | 22:51 |
| nhaines | (I was watching without subtitles to that point.) | 22:51 |
| pleia2 | haha | 22:52 |
| nhaines | If I remember correctly, the German voice actor does all the German and Huttese lines, and then for Sebulba who only speaks in Huttese they just leave the original voice actor. | 22:54 |
| nhaines | Also, the kid who did the dub for young Anakin did a spectacular job. | 22:54 |
| nhaines | Better than Jake Lloyd. | 22:54 |
| pleia2 | http://www.frys.com/product/6488722?site=frysecampaign is tempting | 22:55 |
| nhaines | (Not fair? Jake was 9ish and the German kid was a popular voice actor and 13ish) | 22:55 |
| pleia2 | but noooo, waiting for super battery life laptops | 22:55 |
| nhaines | ooh, tempting... and my laptop has been really grinding along lately... | 22:56 |
| DarkwingDuck | This is a good laptop: http://www.ebay.com/itm/290610810117?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 :P:P | 23:35 |
| DarkwingDuck | if someone sells it I'll denote 100 bucks via paypal. | 23:35 |
| pleia2 | the $300 laptop is beyond my budget already :) | 23:37 |
| DarkwingDuck | lol | 23:37 |
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