[00:00] <explodes> edbian: wpa_supplicant.conf?
[00:00] <explodes> http://pastie.org/2540423
[00:01] <edbian> explodes: your script references the file /etc/wap_supplicant.conf
[00:01] <edbian> wpa_supplicant.conf **
[00:01] <edbian> oh duh
[00:01] <edbian> it's there at the bottom
[00:01] <edbian> :P
[00:01] <explodes> i appended it to the paste, youre not wrong
[00:01] <robin0800> explodes: are you sure its wlan0 mines not its eth1
[00:02] <edbian> explodes: is your password really 'somelonghexstring' or did you censor that?
[00:02] <explodes> wlan0 is my wireless interface, i'm trying to connect to wifi now, as i dont have a crossover cable
[00:02] <explodes> edbian: this irc client is on the windows machine, my linux box isnt connected to the internet, i had to transcribe wpa_supplicant.conf
[00:02] <edbian> explodes: a-ha :)
[00:03] <edbian> explodes: your script, on line 4, overwrites the content of /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf  ?  Is that intended?
[00:04] <explodes> run wpa_connect, if you would, like this: wpa_connect.sh <SSID> <password>
[00:04] <explodes> edbian: yes
[00:04] <Hash-it-is> What is the best way i could remote into a system (GUI) over lan?
[00:04] <explodes> everything i googled said this was how to do it, im just wondering now if my wifi wont work in recovery mode
[00:04] <explodes> oh shit
[00:04] <edbian> Hash-it-is: either ssh -x or vnc
[00:04] <edbian> explodes: please don't swear
[00:05] <explodes> sorry sorry sorry
[00:05] <edbian> explodes: Well that doesn't make sense.  Why have anything stored in the file at all?
[00:05] <edbian> explodes: It's completely erased every time this script is run
[00:06] <explodes> that file stores the WPA key so that when you run wpa_supplicant using that file, it uses that key... wpa_passphrase just basically generates that config for wpa_supplicant to use.
[00:06] <Hash-it-is> when you enter commands in terminal, it will remember all previous commands, i can access through "up" arrow. This occurs for ALL the commands I have typed since the beginning of time (or so it seems). It must be stored on a file somewhere? where is the file?
[00:06] <explodes> at least that's my understanding
[00:06] <sarnold> Hash-it-is: ~/.bash_history
[00:06] <edbian> explodes: a-ha, that makes more sense.  If wpa_passphrase generates the file
[00:07] <explodes> in my script, can i do echo `some command that could output many lines` and it will output all of that output?
[00:07] <edbian> explodes: I think so, yes
[00:08] <explodes> edbian can you run that script somewhere to test it for me :S
[00:08] <edbian> explodes: lemme try, but it will kick me offline for a minute
[00:08] <explodes> thank you, see you soon
[00:10] <brandini> the serial stuff in unbuntu is utterly useless and broken
[00:10] <brandini> I can't even plug in a usb to serial adapter and do loopback
[00:10] <Hash-it-is> sarnold: Thank you kind sir.
[00:11] <Hash-it-is> explodes: echo is for repeating text. do 'man echo' for a list of things it will be able to do. You need to write a script.
[00:13] <explodes> edbian: any magic happening?
[00:13] <subone> What's the best way to begin troubleshooting intermittent network issues? I've got Twonky and samba running on here, but sometimes they cut out for a short time
[00:13] <urlin2u> brandini, I believe your wrong it just is not plug and play/loop.
[00:14] <brandini> urlin2u: why can't I plug in my serial adapter to my board and have it communicate
[00:14] <sarnold> Hash-it-is: the `` shell 'operators' are used in command substitution; see bash(1) for details on the command substitution, and "uname -r ; ls -l /lib/`uname -r`/modules" for a quick demonstration of how it works
[00:14] <brandini> it works in windows
[00:14] <orftz> Hey guys! The company I'm working for is working on this game http://voxlr.net and we're aiming at general Linux compatibility. It's all very early, but maybe you'd be interest enough to help us fund the project?
[00:14] <orftz> Anyhow, please share your thoughts about this! :)
[00:14] <edbian> explodes: It did not work for me.
[00:15] <edbian> explodes: but I have a wpa2 enterprise network and this script did not set my identity
[00:15] <explodes> ah, ok
[00:15] <urlin2u> brandini, I think I said it clearly, and if you compare to windows a plug and play your going to never figure it out look at the web.
[00:15] <edbian> explodes: yes, so, sort of a hint?
[00:15] <sarnold> brandini: did you load the correct module for your USB/serial board? there's no standard for those things (microsoft prevented the USB working group from standardizing an interface years ago in an attempt to get serial devices off the market that much quicker. I don't think it worked.)
[00:15] <brandini> sarnold: the device shows up in dmesg and says it's available at /dev/ttyUSB0
[00:16] <urlin2u> brandini, making statements like this "the serial stuff in unbuntu is utterly useless and broken'  hardly generates help.
[00:16] <sarnold> brandini: great success :)
[00:16] <brandini> sarnold: however when I configure minicom to use it I get nothing
[00:17] <brandini> hardware flow control is off, speed is 115200
[00:18] <sarnold> brandini: does your other device expect hardware flow control to be turned on?
[00:18] <brandini> their docs say to turn it off
[00:18] <sarnold> aha
[00:19] <joeoshawa> btw thanks guys for the help with my fstab it worked like a charm
[00:19] <sarnold> brandini: are you in the 'dialout' group? (or do you otherwise have permission on the device?)
[00:19] <brandini> I added root and my user to that group
[00:19] <Gredeu> you couldn't have
[00:19] <Gredeu> ;)
[00:20] <sarnold> brandini: and did you logout/login again, or run newgrp?
[00:20] <brandini> aha
[00:22] <brandini> sarnold: you're the first person in days to help me figure out that the group was wrong
[00:22] <brandini> sarnold: but why it didn't work under my normal user I don't know
[00:23] <sarnold> brandini: you wouldn't want your normal users to be able to start up your uucp connections whenever they want and thus drive your phone bill through the roof!
[00:23] <Danielpk> i have a error to access a ssh server.. with root user if i try to acces it work fine.. but with other user i get this > PTY allocation request failed on channel 0  i googled but nothing there helped me.. any tip?
[00:23] <brandini> sarnold: fair enough :)
[00:23] <sarnold> brandini: I'm sure there's some ConsoleKit things that could make it all work without hassle, but I never took the time to learn how to use it.
[00:23] <brandini> it's a HUGE gotcha that's not in the ubuntu serial guides
[00:24] <sarnold> brandini: file a bug report? :)
[00:24] <brandini> naw, I'll let everyone else suffer like I did :)
[00:24] <sarnold> brandini: ha! :) fair enough :)
[00:25] <sarnold> Danielpk: is there anything revealing in the /var/log/ logs?
[00:25] <explodes> screw it, im physically moving my computer so i can plug it into my router.
[00:26] <Danielpk> sarnold:  i will look
[00:26] <brandini> sarnold: FWIW, I was root and couldn't dial things out... that seems broken to me
[00:27] <seanbright> i'm been going through /etc/init.d and /etc/init and cannot seem to find where /var/log is created during boot.  i put /var in fstab as a tmpfs mount and when i booted, the log directory was there but i can't seem to find where it was created.
[00:28] <sarnold> brandini: that _does_ seem broken. Not sure why that wouldn't work. :/
[00:28] <brandini> indeed
[00:28] <mrdeb> bec of unity
[00:28] <brandini> hence my extreme frustration
[00:29] <AuroraNites21> hi
[00:29] <sarnold> seanbright: does rsyslog create it at startup, if it doesn't exist? /etc/rsyslog.conf mentions directory and file creation modes
[00:31] <explodes> ok, ubuntu boots up, and it asks what user to login with (with the GUI) which shouldnt happen in the first place. when i enter the correct password, it flashes black and eventually returns to the login screen. what do!
[00:31] <Danielpk> sarnold:  nothing at logs..
[00:31] <Danielpk> sarnold:  it look watched the server logs.. and it look like i connect then i disconnect..
[00:31] <seanbright> sarnold: seems like a reasonable guess, i'll check the source
[00:32] <sarnold> seanbright: maybe easier would be to stop rsyslog, start it under strace, and check
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> explodes: do you have free space on your partitions? Have you tried the classic session?
[00:32] <sarnold> seanbright: errr, stop rsyslog, delete the directory, start rsyslog under strace and check...
[00:32] <explodes> ActionParsnip: yes i have free space, what is the classic session?
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> explodes: you choose it after you click your login name. Its an alternative to Unity
[00:33] <MonkeyDust> help
[00:33] <explodes> i dont have unity, ihave ubuntu 11.04
[00:33] <MonkeyDust> oops
[00:34] <explodes> i mean, i dont have the option for classic session
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> explodes: i see, ok that takes that out of the equation. If you log in as a different user is it the same
[00:34] <explodes> i only have the one user, and root doesnt have a password
[00:35] <explodes> wait
[00:35] <explodes> root has to have a password, right?
[00:35] <seanbright> sarnold: grep'ing the source for mkdir worked
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> explodes: no, it doesn't
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> explodes: press CTRL+ALT+F1  and make a new user there, then press CTRL+LT+F7 and log in as the new user
[00:36] <explodes> ok one sec
[00:38] <sarnold> seanbright: woot. :)
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> !adduser
[00:38] <explodes> omg
[00:39] <com64> when hibernating, I get error "Failed to hibernate session    not authorized"
[00:39] <seanbright> sarnold: and you were right, it does create the parent directories if they don't exist
[00:39] <explodes> starting up, my computer holds on "checking battery state..." im plugged in, what do
[00:39] <explodes> ah, and fail on "Starting automatic crash report generation"
[00:41] <B0g4r7_> How can I ask Ubuntu Desktop to boot into non-graphical mode?
[00:42] <Bagheera> crt alt f2
[00:42] <Bagheera> alft f2
[00:42] <maalac> B0g4r7_: you mean like in rhel2 /etc/iniitab
[00:42] <B0g4r7_> More or less.
[00:42] <B0g4r7_> runlevel 3 or whatever.
[00:42] <maalac> B0g4r7_: i've been also searching on that..it's a bit complicated ..
[00:43] <B0g4r7_> dang
[00:43] <qin> B0g4r7_: Replace slapsh booting parameter with text
[00:43] <qin> *splash
[00:43] <B0g4r7_> Will that cause xorg to not be loaded?
[00:43] <B0g4r7_> (that's my goal)
[00:44] <B0g4r7_> To not load any of the gui stuff so as to save on memory usage.
[00:44] <qin> B0g4r7_: Hold shift at boot, and press "e" to edit in grub, yes
[00:44] <bsmith093> how do i add extract to new folder to the context menu for an archive?
[00:44] <qin> B0g4r7_: You can also: sudo service gdm stop
[00:45] <c4pt> hello i basically have a problem i am on debian not on ubuntu so its more of a generalized linux question
[00:45] <c4pt> the problem i have is pretty the same as this
[00:45] <c4pt> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/repair-permissions-installed-deb-package-355052/
[00:45] <c4pt> i accidentally touched all the permissions recurisvely in /
[00:46] <c4pt> i thought i was in my home folder but i was in the root as root and i ran chown -R c4pt:c4pt *
[00:46] <maalac> B0g4r7_: try this vi /etc/event.d/rc-default
[00:46] <qin> bsmith093: mkdir newdir && mv archive newdir && rar|unzip|tar archive
[00:46] <maalac> but you have to backup the file first ..
[00:46] <c4pt> so i tried to stop it after realizing it a minute later and ran chown -R 0:0 * to try and fix it
[00:47] <maalac> B0g4r7_:find all the lines that says telinit 2 and change all to 3
[00:47] <c4pt> but alot of things arent working right (for example crtl-alt-L is refusing my password) opening a root terminal with gksu wasnt working right until i gave gksu back its chmod +S
[00:47] <chrometiger> i am trying to connect my ubuntu 11.04 machine to my windows 7 laptop to transfer files.   is there any good tutorial for this,     both machines are connected to a wireless router
[00:47] <c4pt> chrometiger, use samba
[00:47] <explodes> oh my goodnes.s
[00:48] <|Slacker|> chrometiger: i just connect trough the file manager
[00:48] <c4pt> chrometiger, http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/1524-standalone-samba-in-debian-squeeze
[00:48] <maalac> chrometiger:install personal file sharing > as per c4pt: samba
[00:48] <wildbat> c4pt: there is no undo for that afaik unless you have backup. :<~
[00:48] <B0g4r7_>  /etc/event.d -- no such directory.  On lucid anyway.
[00:48] <explodes> in a smart report, what is VALUE, WORST, and THRESH?
[00:48] <B0g4r7_> Stopping gdm works well tho.  That will suit my needs.
[00:48] <c4pt> wildbat, well thats the thing i have all the data it will just take hours and hours to put everything back (since we are talking close to 4 or 5 tb of data)
[00:49] <Spaceman> whatta u know...think I finally  figured out how to install a .bin file... whatta pain... I guess I gotta learn the Linux command line after all....
[00:49] <c4pt> wildbat, is there a way i can reinstall without formatting without touching my home ?
[00:49] <B0g4r7_> explodes: WORST is the highest recorded temperature I believe.
[00:49] <maalac> B0g4r7_: that's great ..anyway ..you can start it anytime you like ..
[00:49] <chrometiger> thanks i'll try
[00:49] <wildbat> c4pt: only if you have /home in differnet partition.
[00:50] <bsmith093> qin: wonderful, now how do i add that functionality to nautilus context menu
[00:50] <c4pt> wildbat, can i use gparted or something to resize my entire lvm and make a /home parition ?
[00:50] <c4pt> wildbat, maybe that is doable with resizing and moving ?
[00:50] <jdm_> anyone have experience installing ironhide/bumblebee?
[00:51] <MoTec> c4pt: thanks for that.. compared to that my issues seem insignificant.
[00:52] <wildbat> c4pt: that may take hours too ~ depend if you resizing to the left of to the right. ~ chop the right side can be much faster. then just delete all the folder excluding /home and mv /home/* / .
[00:52] <xosuitehearts> anyone know of any good ways to rip and convert dvds on Ubuntu?
[00:52] <xosuitehearts> ive tried k9copy but it wont convert
[00:53] <xosuitehearts> I've also tried Dvd::rip and it doesnt seem to want to finish the whole dvd.
[00:53] <xosuitehearts> It stops short.
[00:53] <MoTec> my ex girlfriend was like that.. i had to let her go...
[00:54] <qin> bsmith093: Dunno, maybe nautilus-scipts, never used it tho.
[00:56] <bekor> hi, i am new to 11.04 and i am wondering why i do not see the new colom on the left for the new desktop style? what am i doing wrong am i using gnome and not unity some how?
[00:57] <bekor> sorry for my mis-spelling
[00:57] <c4pt> wildbat, thanx for the idea about /home and gparted (you reminded me i could resize instead of having to migrate everything over again might save 2 hrs instead of taking 5-6hrs might take 3-4hrs )
[00:57] <qin> bekor: What does Alt-F1?
[00:59] <qin> bekor: Keep on channel, please.
[01:00] <soreau> Finally, got it working with hostapd and a properly configured masquerade setup ;)
[01:02] <qin> bekor: At this moment, thinking of neat script to prevent and punish someone PM me constantly.
[01:02] <bekor> hi anyone give me some pointers?
[01:03] <ghost_> I have   *-network:1 UNCLAIMED realtek wireless
[01:04] <volty> hi, accented characters (french) in file names drive me crazy and I can't remember how I solved this in my previous installation, at least hints pls (show up a question marks on black background)
[01:04] <qin> bekor: You using Classic gnome not Unity. At login before typing password, at bottom bat choose Unity as your session, ans do not PM people, if not asked
[01:04] <qin> *and
[01:04] <spanglesontoast> does anyone use fluxbox in ubuntu ?
[01:04] <ghost_> I can't find my wlan using ifconfig.
[01:04] <birote> hola
[01:05] <birote> alguien habla español??
[01:05] <Loshki> !es | birote
[01:05] <birote> gracias nn,
[01:06] <bekor> ok thanks sorry about that the letters were read so i thought that was what i was suppose to do
[01:06] <qin> bekor: Do not use /msg or /query, just "qin: message here"
[01:06] <bekor> i mean red
[01:06] <qin> !tab > bekor
[01:06] <Loshki> spanglesontoast: try #fluxbox...
[01:06] <bekor> not sure how to do that sorry
[01:07] <qin> bekor: See message from ubottu?
[01:07] <bekor> qin my problem is unity is not on my list
[01:08] <c4pt> AuroraNites21, yes ? why did you pm me ?
[01:08] <qin> bekor: What: lsb_release -sc says?
[01:08] <AuroraNites21> I wanted to say hi
[01:09] <spanglesontoast> Loshki, they are very rude in there unlike the distro help channel that I'm using here unfort it seems that stance has now changed...
[01:09] <bekor> sorry qin do not understand
[01:09] <c4pt> AuroraNites21, why ?
[01:09] <Loshki> spanglesontoast: sorry to hear that. Try asking your question here...
[01:09] <qin> bekor: Try to type in terminal: lsb_release -sc
[01:09] <bekor> ok i will
[01:10] <spanglesontoast> ok thanks Loshki
[01:11] <spanglesontoast> basically where in the filesystem do I edit gdm where it launches fluxbox ?
[01:12] <bekor> command not found how do i cut and paste that?
[01:12] <qin> bekor: You sure that you type it right?
[01:12] <bekor> ok got it right that time it just says Naty
[01:13] <bekor> Natty
[01:13] <wc> where are you from?
[01:14] <bekor> when i looked at system info it said Gnome instead of unity
[01:14] <nathanel> hello everyone!
[01:14] <qin> bekor: Ok, in terminal: "sudo apt-get install unity unity-common" or use synaptic to install it.
[01:15] <qin> bekor: Unity uses gnome.
[01:15] <bekor> thanks friend you think that will do the trick?
[01:15] <nathanel> quick question: how does one call upon or link by a single script (bash) multiple separate scripts to be executed?
[01:15] <wc> where are you from?
[01:15] <qin> bekor: Yes it should, have you upgraded from Maveric?
[01:15] <Sna4x8> In 10.04, when I closed Rhythmbox it would minimize to the Notification Area (like Pidgin).  In 11.04 (Ubuntu classic, not Unity) when I close Rhythmbox it does not go to the Notification Area.  It keeps playing, but I cannot maximize it.
[01:15] <xangua> !ot | wc
[01:16] <bekor> thank you
[01:16] <qin> bekor: Welcome ;)
[01:16] <xangua> Sna4x8: see the little sound indicator¿ clic on it and you'll see it
[01:16] <Sna4x8> xangua: Sound indicator?
[01:16] <jrib> on ubuntu natty, when I log in I do not have sound (pulseaudio only has dummy output).  This seems to be related to an issue with udev.  If I wait a bit (around 3 minutes) and issue "sudo udevadm trigger --sysname-match card0" then pulseaudio sees my sound card and I can play sound.  Alternatively, I can just wait about 3 minutes before logging in and sound just works.  Now I was quick to login and ran
[01:16] <jrib> "udevadm monitor" (http://paste.ubuntu.com/690434/).  You will notice the first line with "change", that is me running the trigger command mentioned before.  At this point I still do not have sound nor does pulseaudio "see" my sound card.  The "change" lines at the end is my second attempt at running the trigger command.  Any insights?
[01:17] <Sna4x8> xangua: Is that in the Indicator Applet?
[01:17] <mmonge> nathanel: inside your script you call the others like if you executed on the terminal with full path
[01:17] <nathanel> oh fun! that easy??
[01:17] <mmonge> yes
[01:17] <Sna4x8> xangua: Yup, there it is.  Man that's annoying.  Any way to remove the indicators and go back to the notification area?
[01:18] <mmonge> every script most be executable
[01:18] <mmonge> chmod +x script.sh
[01:18] <Flark706> do i'm running natty and trying to apply a patch to a progam and keep getting Hunk errors
[01:18] <emm15> are you talking about cell phones?
[01:18] <birote> hello someone I'm new east
[01:18] <Flark706> any thoughs?
[01:18] <qin> nathanel: You mean to run at the same time?
[01:18] <nathanel> now let'S spice it up: i would like to make the folder containing all the files including the main execution script portable. how can i identify the current directory location to set it as a variable?
[01:19] <nathanel> no...not at the same time.. specific order is required
[01:19] <qin> nathanel: pwd
[01:19] <mmonge> nathanel: no, they execute one by one
[01:19] <nathanel> so upon the order i would list them in the file right?
[01:19] <nathanel> pwd
[01:19] <mmonge> nathanel: right
[01:19] <nathanel> cool
[01:19] <qin> nathanel: Wrong window.
[01:19] <nathanel> ya
[01:19] <com64> I can't suspend or hibernate, I get an error about not being authorised.
[01:19] <nathanel> sorry
[01:19] <bekor> qin, does unity need compiz to work?
[01:20] <nathanel> wasnt focused in term :P
[01:20] <nathanel> i get the idea :)
[01:20] <qin> bekor: Yes, but unity-2d does not, or i think so.
[01:20] <bekor> ok thanks
[01:21] <nathanel> gonna try it :) brb
[01:21] <mmonge> nathanel: ok
[01:21] <Winstondc> My audio stopped working today, I can't get any sounds to play. I've went through several guides on fixing the issue and I can't get anywhere
[01:22] <nathanel> so $DIR=pwn then ./$DIR/update (for example) ?
[01:22] <qin> com64: Is your user able to sudo? try: sudo pm-suspend
[01:22] <mmonge> nathanel: try to put "mmonge :" and what you want to said me, if you do my window will notify me
[01:23] <com64> I'll try
[01:23] <nathanel> mmonge: noted (sorry)
[01:23] <qin> nathanel: dir_var=$(pwd); echo $dir_var
[01:23] <chrometiger> c4pt: i followed your advise,    in windows I can see my samba shares but i do not have access to them     dont know whats wrong
[01:23] <Flark706> anyone on thats knows about installing patches in terminal?
[01:23] <com64> qin, yes, it works
[01:23] <mmonge> nathanel: no problem, the ubuntu channel haves to much activity and it is hard to follow the conversation without it
[01:24] <nathanel> ok
[01:24] <nathanel> can i switch the default yellow on the name highlight?
[01:24] <c4pt> chrometiger, you have to use the right credentials for the samba share
[01:24] <qin> com64: sudo or pm-suspend works?
[01:24] <nathanel> mmonge: can i switch the default yellow on the name highlight?
[01:24] <com64> I tried it wish sudo and it works
[01:24] <c4pt> chrometiger, and you should have made a smbpasswd for the user
[01:24] <com64> but without sudo, doesn't works
[01:25] <mmonge> nathanel: default yellow? what you mean?
[01:25] <qin> nathanel: /join #xchat for help with your client.
[01:25] <c4pt> chrometiger, you should follow the guide i gave you to a tee i followed it on my system and it works
[01:25] <chrometiger> c4pt: as far as i know,   I added the same username and pass as I use to log into the windows machine and restarted the samba server
[01:25] <nathanel> mmonge..its a bright yellow on names when highlited... .. no biggie.. changed in the prefs
[01:25] <c4pt> chrometiger, did you edit the smb.conf ?
[01:26] <mmonge> nathanel: i use Adium on Mac for IRC, so no yellow =P
[01:26] <qin> com64: Normal user should not suspend, quite logical.
[01:26] <nathanel> mmonge: i use xchat-gnome
[01:26] <chrometiger> no where is the file located ?
[01:26] <com64> also I can;t shutdown as normal user, either, qin
[01:26] <com64> :(
[01:27] <chrometiger> c4pt: no where is the file located ?
[01:27] <kaushik_> what is the command to find the version of grub
[01:27] <Winstondc> Anyone have time to help me trouble shoot audio issues? I can't get any sound
[01:27] <kaushik_> ?
[01:27] <qin> com64: Multiple logins (especialy if sudoer is logged in) will prevent shutdown.
[01:27] <mmonge> nathanel: pidgin also haves IRC, is like Adium, both use purple lib, you could give it a try
[01:27] <sarnold> chrometiger: did you add your windows username / password to your ubuntu box's /etc/shadow and /etc/passwd files, or did you add it to your smbpasswd database?
[01:27] <c4pt> chrometiger, /etc/samba/smb.conf
[01:27] <robin0800> nathanel: ordinary xchat is much better
[01:27] <c4pt> chrometiger, the guide tells you to edit it
[01:28] <mmonge> robin0800: why its much better?
[01:28] <com64> qin, I only had one login open, but I may have had a terminal window open with sudo
[01:28] <sarnold> kaushik_: dpkg -l 'grub*' will show you the installed package versions
[01:28] <com64> maybet hat was it?
[01:28] <c4pt> chrometiger, this is what mine looks like http://www.pastie.org/2540712                           http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/1524-standalone-samba-in-debian-squeeze
[01:29] <raro> which was the file where the mounted usb devices appeared?
[01:29] <chrometiger> c4pt: k  gimme a min
[01:29] <sarnold> raro: /proc/mounts shows all mounted filesystems
[01:29] <raro> to be able to identify if it recognizes it and what path it gives the device
[01:29] <raro> no
[01:29] <sarnold> raro: /etc/fstab ?
[01:29] <raro> I think that
[01:29] <raro> a sec
[01:30] <c4pt> chrometiger, after you edit the smb make sure you restart the samba daemon to reflect the changes
[01:30] <com64> I just restarted my computer, shudown/suspend/hibernate problem still there...
[01:30] <c4pt> /etc/init.d/samba restart
[01:30] <nathanel> mmonge: woohoo! runs like a charm
[01:31] <nathanel> DIR=$(pwd) ; cd $DIR ; ./ blablabla
[01:31] <mmonge> nathanel: great!
[01:31] <nathanel> thanks mate
[01:31] <nathanel> now that'S solved
[01:31] <sarnold> nathanel: .. why is the variable stuff necessary?
[01:32] <sarnold> nathanel: did the directory get renamed/moved?
[01:32] <c4pt> chrometiger, sorry i didnt paste my file right this is what mine looks like http://www.pastie.org/2540725
[01:32] <raro> I just got an mp3 player from dealextreme
[01:32] <raro> and I connect it
[01:32] <raro> and nothing
[01:32] <qin> kaushik_: grub-setup -V
[01:32] <c4pt> chrometiger, the other paste was just the bottom part of it
[01:32] <raro> fstab shows nothing
[01:32] <nathanel> mmonge: because i use individual scripts for different custom stuff on machine setups and would like to be able to copy and paste it wherever to execute
[01:32] <robin0800> mmonge: more options mainly
[01:32] <organiks> how can i export the display during a ssh session
[01:32] <sarnold> raro: are you thinking of the /dev/disk/by-id/ directory?
[01:32] <nathanel> mmonge: it contains configs for my various machines...
[01:33] <sarnold> organiks: it is far easier to use ssh -X beforehand :)
[01:33] <mgparisi> Im running a VERY old EVGA card, that can get an AMAZING 800x600... is there a Remote Desktop software that will allow me to go bigger then that?
[01:33] <raro> sarnold: not sure what you talking bou
[01:33] <raro> t
[01:33] <JoonsS> Help: After I installed cups development package. When I meet error message "undefined reference to 'cupsGetDests'", How do I set configuration? (Ubuntu 11.4)
[01:33] <c4pt> mgparisi, probably not
[01:33] <raro> it just does nothing, I think I should see something at least in /etc/fstab right=
[01:33] <mmonge> nathanel: i did not ask you for that
[01:33] <sarnold> raro: /dev/disk/by-id/ contains symbolic links from storage devices named by device "names" to the potentially variable /dev/sd* block device names.
[01:33] <qin> mgparisi: x over ssh, propably.
[01:33] <nathanel> mmonge: its easier to manage as different modules in separate files... it ranges from aliases to ccsm settings to gsettings to fstab input, custom launchers, added xdg/autostart items..and so forth...
[01:34] <c4pt> mgparisi, even if you use RDP or VNC with 1280x1024 and the physical card is 800x600 at max the screen will be downsized in a 1280x1024 (as an example)
[01:34] <mgparisi> qin
[01:34] <nathanel> oops.. misread.. its all to sarnold
[01:34] <mgparisi> ahh well
[01:34] <nathanel> sarnold: it contains configs for my various machines...
[01:34] <c4pt> mgparisi, you will have 800x600 of viewable area and another area of just blank/black space
[01:34] <mgparisi> does ubuntu support expanding arrays?
[01:34] <nathanel> sarnold: because i use individual scripts for different custom stuff on machine setups and would like to be able to copy and paste it wherever to execute
[01:35] <raro> great, thanks
[01:35] <nathanel> sarnold: its easier to manage as different modules in separate files... it ranges from aliases to ccsm settings to gsettings to fstab input, custom launchers, added xdg/autostart items..and so forth...
[01:35] <sarnold> nathanel: heh, maybe if I saw the whole problem ...
[01:36] <nathanel> sarnold: it aint an issue really.. just a different way to manage automated custom input on fresh install rather than now having eeeeverything in the same file... kind of long to maintain
[01:36] <chrometiger> c4pt: your awesome
[01:37] <mmonge> nathanel: the cd + pwd looks like not need it
[01:37] <Flark706> so anyone think they can help with patching a program in natty real quick?
[01:38] <mmonge> nathanel: because pwd is where you are on the terminal
[01:38] <mgparisi> the only reason I want to use Ubuntu over FreeNAS is for true raid expansion, but I want to make sure this works... problem is, my display is so small that I cant get it to show much else
[01:38] <c4pt> chrometiger, works?
[01:38] <mmonge> nathanel: so, if your runAll.sh is where all others scripts are you could just execute them with ./
[01:38] <nathanel> sarnold: and the main launcher script would be in the same dir.... so i then specifiy a sertain order for the files which is in $DIR/scriptname
[01:38] <sarnold> c4pt: so you've got a low-res video card, but want to be able to run graphics at a higher resolution, right?
[01:38] <chrometiger> well one directory does the other doesn't,     i shared 2 folders     trying to find the prob
[01:39] <nathanel> sarnold.. without pwd?
[01:39] <c4pt> sarnold, no mgparisi does
[01:39] <sarnold> c4pt: thanks
[01:39] <Winstondc> Alsa detects my sound card, it shows up fine, but I can't hear anything. I've checked cables (Yeah, it's plugged in) and I tried headphones, they didn't work either. Any ideas??
[01:39] <nathanel> sarnold.. good point.. it works
[01:39] <sarnold> mgparisi: I think what you're looking for is the "virtual" setting in the Xorg.conf "Display" subsection
[01:39] <nathanel> sarnold:.. good point.. it works
[01:40] <c4pt> Winstondc, you might want to edit your alias.conf
[01:40] <raro> sorry here once more
[01:40] <nathanel> sarnold: but no wi know a new command :)
[01:40] <mgparisi> sarnold: where do I get that?
[01:40] <Winstondc> C4pt, Could you give me a bit more info?
[01:40] <c4pt> Winstondc, is your device snd-intel-hda ?
[01:40] <dan-mytt> hi can anyone help with an ssh problem?
[01:40] <c4pt> Winstondc, like realtek or alc ?
[01:41] <sarnold> nathanel: well, it works so long as the directory contents stay the same -- if some underlying version control mechanisms move your directory around on you, you might find your "current working directory" is in fact an _old_ version of the directory, but the `pwd` trick lets you always use the newest directory with that name
[01:41] <sarnold> nathanel: woot! that's always worth learning :)
[01:41] <mgparisi> sarnold: I could probably go larger as it seems to be in 32 bit color
[01:41] <dominicdi> i just installed a dual boot but the dualboot defaults to the windows bootloader how do i use the grub2
[01:41] <raro> what's that log file that as soon as you insert a usb device says "xxxx device inserted......"
[01:41] <c4pt> Winstondc, i had to run this to fix my audio with ALC272  i had the same problem but on debian might work for you also
[01:41] <c4pt> Winstondc, http://www.pastie.org/2540750
[01:42] <gentoo-intel> dominicdi, you installed windows last yes
[01:42] <sarnold> mgparisi: back in the day, we had to write our entire X configs by hand, so it was easy to modify one to meet your needs... but if you write _just_ the Display section into /etc/X11/Xorg.conf, it'll probably work.
[01:42] <Winstondc> c4pt,  I don't think thats my device. It's an audigy sound card, not using the on board sound
[01:42] <c4pt> Winstondc, ah ok
[01:42] <c4pt> Winstondc, then make the index 0 for that loaded module
[01:42] <c4pt> Winstondc, do lsmod | grep snd-emu
[01:42] <dan-mytt> i have a sshopen server set up on host and ssh client setup on client. when i ssh user@ipaddress i get a; port 22 connection refused error.
[01:42] <nathanel> sarnold: there we go.. another reason to keep pwd in there :) : now a new question: i am trying to make powersave be the default governor... i've set the cat input to powersave for the respective cores in rc.local; it executes fine on boot and desktop launch.. i actually see the selection within indicator-cpufreq BUT THEN: it reverts back to ondemand
[01:42] <c4pt> Winstondc, or lsmod | grep snd-*
[01:42] <sarnold> c4pt: dmesg(8), /var/log/messages, and I think udevadm(8) has a monitor mode....
[01:43] <c4pt> Winstondc, you should see snd-emu10k and snd-emu
[01:43] <dominicdi> gentoo-intel, No installed natty last i actually just want to use ubuntu but i have no other means as this mb doesnt support usb flash boot and has no cd/dvd drives i used a dualboot to get ubuntu on here
[01:43] <c4pt> Winstondc, these are specific to sound blaster cards
[01:43] <c4pt> sarnold, ?
[01:43] <gentoo-intel> dominicdi, if you installed ubuntu last, grub should take over. how did you install it?
[01:43] <raro> ah I think it's dmesg command
[01:44] <gentoo-intel> dominicdi, you can choort in and run grub-install, then resize the partition (deleting windows)
[01:44] <dominicdi> wubi installer from the internet for windows
[01:44] <c4pt> Winstondc, when you type " lsmod | grep snd* " do you see snd-emu and or snd-emu10k ?
[01:44] <sarnold> c4pt: oh hell, tab misfire :) sorry.
[01:44] <gentoo-intel> dominicdi, oh ok, not sure about wubi
[01:44] <sarnold> raro: dmesg(8), /var/log/messages, and I think udevadm(8) has a monitor mode....
[01:44] <Winstondc> c4pt, No, I dont, let me pastebin what I do see
[01:44] <gentoo-intel> dominicdi, prob no way then
[01:44] <dominicdi> gentoo-intel, no i have 5 hard drives and i just want the windows drive to remain dormant incase i need windows i can even pull the drive if need be
[01:44] <sarnold> nathanel: man, I _know_ I've seen the governer get reset before, but I can't recall the details.
[01:44] <Winstondc> c4pt, http://www.pastie.org/2540759
[01:45] <mgparisi> sarnold: I dont see it under x11
[01:45] <nathanel> sarnold: IT SUCKS!
[01:45] <sarnold> mgparisi: it doesn't exist by default -- the server can figure it all out on its own these days
[01:45] <chrometiger> c4pt: well i can view  but not copy
[01:45] <gentoo-intel> dominicdi, i dont get what you mean
[01:45] <sarnold> nathanel: I _think_ the problem was I was using a gnome task bar CPU monitor that thought it was being _helpful_ and changing the governor for me.
[01:45] <c4pt> chrometiger, its the permissions
[01:45] <dominicdi> gentoo-intel, hmmmmm if i was able to install this drive to another computer like put the primary ubuntu drive into another computer and install if i pull the drive and put it into this headless server it should work
[01:46] <sarnold> nathanel: are you using a CPU monitor application? or just checking the output of the /proc/cpuinfo* files yourself?
[01:46] <sarnold> (or... /sys/*cpu*/ files...)
[01:46] <mgparisi> sarnold: well my video card probably can handle larger, but since its unrecognized it wont let me resize... anyway I can unlock it so that I can change settings
[01:46] <chrometiger> c4pt:  im stumped on that  should that be fixed in the samba file  ?
[01:46] <c4pt> Winstondc, try this
[01:46] <nathanel> sarnold: well it'S mostly to maximize battery life.. i can then swich to performance or wtvr IF i need to manually with the indicator.. but for school and stuff i don't need it much other than on powersave
[01:46] <gentoo-intel> dominicdi, if you install form another comp yea it should work
[01:46] <dominicdi> gentoo-intel, i paid for winblows i might need to use windows sooner or later but as for the file server etc........ i dont need an active dual boot loader
[01:46] <c4pt> Winstondc, modprobe snd-emu10k1-synth snd-emu10k1
[01:47] <nathanel> sarnold: currently using indicator-cpufreq for 11.10
[01:47] <c4pt> chrometiger, on the linux folder you are sharing what are the permissions ?
[01:47] <mmonge> nathanel: there are a gnome cpu monitor that runs on status bar that change cpu governor
[01:47] <dominicdi> gentoo-intel, i will do that then.... the last time i installed a server was a portable drive and then had to modify all the tables by hand
[01:47] <nathanel> sarnold im on oneiric b1+updates
[01:47] <nathanel> sarnold: im on oneiric b1+updates
[01:47] <gentoo-intel> dominicdi, why not just pull one of the drives out and install it on there then put it back in (clean install)
[01:47] <mmonge> nathanel: or if i remember well you can set it with:
[01:47] <Winstondc> c4pt, it ran without any errors, but I still have no sound
[01:47] <mmonge> nathanel: echo powersave > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[01:47] <sarnold> mgparisi: some videocards have broken bioses that don't have the full set of supported resolutions in memory; there are some patching tools that can run-time patch the running BIOS tables to report the proper information
[01:48] <dominicdi> gentoo-intel, i will tomorrow
[01:48] <dominicdi> gentoo-intel, then wipe this install lol
[01:48] <c4pt> WindPower, hm
[01:48] <mmonge> nathanel: have to do it for every cpuX
[01:48] <organiks> sarnold thanks
[01:48] <c4pt> chrometiger, it should be something like this where /home/samba is the folder you are sharing on your system http://www.pastie.org/2540766
[01:48] <c4pt> chrometiger, at the end of the smb.conf
[01:48] <dan-mytt> can anyone help with a ssh problem?
[01:49] <sarnold> organiks: sure thing, sorry i didn't know a better thing off the top of my head -- I never learned the ssh ~ commands :(
[01:49] <mgparisi> sarnold: I think this is going to be one of thoose, well it was a fun and short journeys into Linux, one more time.... (There has been hundreds)
[01:49] <sarnold> mgparisi: ha! :) It took me a few tries before I was able to give up on windows.
[01:49] <sarnold> nathanel: I'm going to blame the silly indicator applets :)
[01:50] <sarnold> nathanel: check all over the settings for the thing to see if it tries to set one or another mode
[01:50] <raro> dmesg says
[01:50] <raro> [ 1442.703337] sd 152:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 1442.723447]  sdb: sdb1
[01:50] <nathanel> that works.. but now the question is... will it hold on reboot after loading... i'll try now and come back in a bit
[01:50] <raro> what is the path to that sdb1 device?
[01:50] <mgparisi> sarnold: this has been going on since around 94
[01:50] <sarnold> raro: /dev/sdb1
[01:50] <raro> is it mounted?
[01:50] <sarnold> mgparisi: oh :)
[01:50] <nathanel> sarnold: that works.. but now the question is... will it hold on reboot after loading... i'll try now and come back in a bit
[01:50] <sarnold> raro: check the output of mount(8) or cat /proc/mounts to see if it is mounted.
[01:50] <mgparisi> sarnold: can it support raid array expansion?
[01:51] <nathanel> sarnold: rebooting.. brb
[01:51] <c4pt> Winstondc, im not 100% sure sorry
[01:52] <sarnold> mgparisi: it does; I've expanded an ext3 filesystem before with good results, but I had a recent backup handy just in case :)
[01:52] <sarnold> mgparisi: look for "lvm", "evms", "resize2fs"
[01:52] <Winstondc> c4pt,  Hey, thanks for giving it a shot. I can't figure out why anything changed, all I did was unhook my computer earlier today. I've reseated the card though, checked the cables
[01:52] <Braber01> Hi I have a G15 keyboard with a Led Display, and let's say I wan't to use the Led as a display for a shell so I can feel free to do other things on my desktop,the g15compose manual isn't exactly clear to me.
[01:52] <mgparisi> sarnold: is there a GUI yet?
[01:52] <dan-mytt> can anyone help with ssh problems i having?
[01:52] <c4pt> Winstondc, this might help http://wiki.debian.org/snd-emu10k1
[01:52] <nathanel> sarnold: bad idea.. that actually locked the cpu cores to that state
[01:52] <c4pt> Winstondc, you might need the firmware files for alsa
[01:53] <ya2n> helllooo
[01:53] <sarnold> mgparisi: I assume there is one somewhere; perhaps GNOME control center or KDE control center ... I've never looked for one, sorry.
[01:53] <rogelio> can anyone help me out here?
[01:53] <nathanel> sarnold: cat is better but it need to be permanent until i switch manually through indicator :(
[01:53] <sarnold> nathanel: do i remember that you have to load the different governor modules first?
[01:53] <c4pt> WindPower, maybe its muted in alsamixer
[01:53] <rogelio> i'm trying to install a game called Heroes Of newerth and it just opens "gedit"
[01:53] <raro> no it doesn't show
[01:53] <rogelio> with an error message
[01:53] <nathanel> sarnold: meaning?
[01:53] <c4pt> WindPower, if you type alsamixer in a terminal and move the arrow key to the device can you unmute it with the up arrow ?
[01:54] <mgparisi> sarnold: I think Ill go opennas and live without it at this point... I will do a VBox for ubuntu
[01:54] <c4pt> Winstondc, You will have to open the terminal and enter “alsamixer”. Use the right arrow key to select the channel “Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack”. Press “M” to turn it on/off.
[01:54] <chrometiger> c4pt: i'll try again tomorrow   permissions are still wacked
[01:54] <rogelio> Can anyone help me out? this is my first time using linux
[01:54] <c4pt> Winstondc, http://www.shareconnector.com/no-sound-issue-sb-audigy-in-ubuntu-10-10-11-04
[01:55] <rogelio> no one knows why I can't install anything?...
[01:55] <Singham> rogelio : Did you assign permission to execute it ?
[01:55] <escott> Braber01, you will have to have a terminal running in the background somehow, otherwise how do you set the focus/run the tty, but you should be able to pipe the tty output to the program
[01:55] <rogelio> where do I do that?
[01:55] <rogelio> my friend just now installed linux mint on my computer. I know nothing about it
[01:55] <escott> !anyone | dan-mytt
[01:55] <metabill> rogelio: you can install anything you want through Add/Remove Software
[01:55] <Winstondc> c4pt, nothing looks muted in alsamixer
[01:56] <rogelio> where is that?
[01:56] <sarnold> mgparisi: dinner time ;) good luck!
[01:56] <xangua> rogelio: mint is not supported here
[01:56] <Singham> !mint | rogelio
[01:56] <metabill> rogelio: sorry, not running mint here. there should be a help system though
[01:57] <mgparisi1> sarnold: thanks!
[01:58] <nathanel> sarnold: it gives the same issue now but can't switch to any other gov
[01:58] <raro> it says this
[01:58] <raro> [ 1926.310337] sd 263:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 1926.330445]  sdb: sdb1 [ 1926.342333] sd 263:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 1926.342343] sd 263:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[01:58] <metabill> after upgrading Lucid, I now run into a problem with initctl concerning ifupdown on a VPS. This is the relevant bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/722783
[01:59] <Singham> rogelio : -> Right cilck -> Properties -> Permission (tab) -> tick Allow executiong file as program.
[01:59] <metabill> Can anyone help me get it to work again (package downgrade?)
[01:59] <munchluxe63> I can't shut down, hibernate, or suspend; a dialogue box displaying "shutdown failed, failed to suspend, not authorized" and then the session locks. Using XFCE.
[01:59] <raro> then
[01:59] <metabill> ubottu: hey that's the same bug ;)
[01:59] <raro> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /home/me/usb/ mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[01:59] <escott> !enter | raro
[02:00] <raro> its strange it says "I got sdb1" and then when I mount it it says "that device doesnt exist" ....... sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /home/me/usb/ mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[02:00] <Dollz> what  is the difference between /usr/bin and /usr/sbin ?
[02:01] <escott> Dollz, sbin is for binaries that need root permission
[02:01] <metabill> Dollz: /usr/bin is for binaries and /usr/sbin is for (secondary) admin stuff
[02:01] <Braber01> how do I find the path to the LCD screen on my g15 keyboard?
[02:02] <Dollz> escott, metabill . when I open /etc/init.d/gearman-job-server I find that the path leads to sbin , so it doesn't auto start on system reboot because it's in bin ...
[02:02] <Catbuskris> hi guys!  does anyone know why /dev/dsp isn't the place my audio comes from, and what is?  i think PulseAudio is ruining my life
[02:02] <Dollz> why it pointed to sbin then when the binary is in bin
[02:03] <Dollz> should I edit it to /usr/bin ?
[02:03] <escott> Dollz, that is evidently a bug with the init script. you should file one, and either edit the init script or symlink to the binary
[02:04] <Dollz> I will edit the file then
[02:04] <metabill> Dollz: did you get your gearman installation from the official repo?
[02:05] <Dollz> metabill: from launchpad
[02:05] <metabill> Dollz: please inform the package maintainer there, then
[02:06] <Dollz> metabill: Oh ok sure , I will learn how to and will do that :)
[02:06] <metabill> does anyone know a solution to the ifupdown bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/722783 ?
[02:07] <raro> brothers
[02:07] <raro> when I connect the usb
[02:07] <raro> I get this http://pastebin.com/0wC9QTur
[02:07] <raro> how do I mount it
[02:08] <kaushik_> qin, will it work for wubi
[02:08] <escott> Braber01, if there is a device associated with the lcd it would appear under the usb bus i would browse /dev by path to find it
[02:08] <kaushik_> as well
[02:09] <metabill> raro: either through your desktop environment
[02:09] <dragondon> has anyone here run a TeamSpeak server on ubuntu?
[02:09] <metabill> raro: or maybe via shell. mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/mymountpoint   (replace mymountpoint with what you got there, maybe usb)
[02:10] <metabill> dragondon: aye
[02:10] <escott> raro, i dont think those are errors. please plug in the device and paste the last 50 or so lines of /var/log/messages, the output of cat /proc/partitions and the output of mount
[02:10] <dragondon> metabill: I can connect to localhost but nothing from the outside.  it seems that while the program is running, it still isn't listening to any real ports.  telnet localhost 10011 fails.  suggestions?
[02:11] <Braber01> escott: that's gonna be kind of hard considering that somehow there are 73 tty devices on my machine... HOW!? I don't know...
[02:12] <escott> Braber01, the g15 usb is not a tty
[02:12] <metabill> dragondon: you should look at netstat, and possibly the syslog
[02:12] <raro> desktop env (graphical) doesn't show anything
[02:12] <metabill> dragondon: also, how many interfaces/ips does your server have?
[02:13] <metabill> dragondon: did you make sure you don't have a packet filter (firewall) blocking the telnet stuff?
[02:14] <dragondon> metabill: yeah, my iptables should be good.  I got telnet to work(port 22) last night from both the lan and the wan, now can't seem to get TS to work, despite copying the same format.
[02:15] <metabill> Braber01: Did you follow the community howto on the G15?
[02:15] <Braber01> metabill: um no...
[02:15] <metabill> Braber01: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LogitechG15
[02:16] <metabill> Braber01: the G15 will show up as a uinput device
[02:16] <GHOSTX>  Can someone help me install wireless network card in Ubuntu Server?
[02:16] <GHOSTX> I know the driver
[02:16] <Pat201> how can i switch to a text based login?
[02:16] <raro> then I do mount /dev/sdb1 /...... and it returns http://pastebin.com/5DatqTxG
[02:16] <raro> seems like there is an error
[02:17] <GHOSTX>  Can someone help me install wireless network card in Ubuntu Server? Pm me
[02:17] <metabill> dragondon: you can force an ip onto TS3
[02:17] <metabill> dragondon: please have a look at the file ts3server_startscript.sh (if you use that)
[02:18] <metabill> dragondon: edit the line with COMMANDLINE_PARAMETERS to be COMMANDLINE_PARAMETERS="voice_ip=X.X.X.X ..."  with X.X.X.X being your IP, and ... being whatever else there was in there before
[02:19] <Catbuskris> can anyone tell me why "./sound_source -i /dev/dsp " returns -30 -30 -30 -30 ... when every single thing is muted? it should be 0 0 0 0 0 obviously
[02:20] <mgparisi1> ahh VBOX
[02:20] <mgparisi1> Who needs linux with virtual display and 16 Gigs of RAM!
[02:20] <mgparisi1> :-p
[02:20] <raro> anybody knows the reason for this error?
[02:20] <raro> http://pastebin.com/5DatqTxG
[02:21] <metabill> raro: hard to tell. what device is that? and did it ever work before?
[02:22] <raro> it's a mp3 player
[02:22] <raro> first time using it
[02:22] <raro> new
[02:22] <metabill> Catbuskris: sorry, no idea why. don't assume it ought to be 0 though, it might be levels instead (-30dB?)
[02:23] <metabill> raro: try lsusb on it, and have a look at some forums - someone will likely have tried that before
[02:23] <metabill> raro: unless it's a really new devie
[02:23] <metabill> raro: device
[02:24] <metabill> dragondon: you still working on TS3?
[02:24] <raro> what should I look for with lsusb
[02:25] <metabill> raro: just the usual information - vendor, device id, device string and such. then copy/paste to a search engine ;)
[02:25] <AaronDCampbell> Ok, new laptop and I have a few things that I obviously did a long time ago on my other laptop and can't seem to figure out how to do again.
[02:25] <Dmole> anyone know if cryptsetup can use UUIDs instead of the dynamic /dev/ path?
[02:25] <dragondon> metabill: I don't use a startup script.  I was looking at the server.ini file, saw the first line that said 'boundtoip1', but it was empty
[02:25] <shellcode> .
[02:25] <metabill> raro: if it's a known device to a lot of people, please check the forums and wiki
[02:25] <AaronDCampbell> I set up Samba but it's not starting automatically when I boot up.  How can I make it do that?
[02:25] <agkdomo> i tried upgrading to 11.10 and my update panel has been stuck with the same command for the past 2 hours. im afraid to restart because i might not be able to boot back up
[02:26] <agkdomo> and suggestions?
[02:26] <Dmole> AaronDCampbell: you can enable the init script
[02:26] <metabill> AaronDCampbell: have you tried looking at upstart docs?
[02:26] <shellcode> my video cards hold max resolution 2048x1536
[02:26] <agkdomo> it says
[02:26] <shellcode> but it on ubunutu it shows only up 1300
[02:26] <metabill> dragondon: boundtoip1 seems to do the same, but you can pass that as a command line parameter just the same.
[02:27] <agkdomo> Restarting services possibly affected by the upgrade:         gdm: reloading....done.  cups: stopping...starting....
[02:27] <agkdomo> and its been stuck on that
[02:27] <Pici> agkdomo : Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[02:27] <shellcode> x server
[02:27] <metabill> dragondon: ./ts3serverbinaryname voice_ip=X.X.X.X somemoreoptions > /dev/null &
[02:28] <dragondon> metabill: will have to continue later, got something telse to do for a bit, will be back.  thanks!
[02:28] <escott> agkdomo, you probably are safe to reboot, but if something goes wrong and you only get a console just do sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and you should be ok
[02:28] <Starminn> When my system (Ubuntu 10.10) has special effects enabled and goes into power save mode, it won't resume. I've been using 10.10 on this computer for 8 months, and I've had this same setup (all the same effects, programs, etc.) for about 1 month and it only now started doing it out of the blue.
[02:28] <Dmole> dragondon: also read man screen and man nohup
[02:28] <AaronDCampbell> Dmole or metabill: can you expound on that?
[02:29] <metabill> AaronDCampbell: did you reboot successfully and Samba didn't come up with it? if so, you'll need to check the startup method, because either samba has problems or isn
[02:30] <metabill> isn't being called at all
[02:30] <Dmole> AaronDCampbell:man update-rc.d
[02:31] <raro> is there a way to clear lsusb?
[02:32] <metabill> raro: please explain 'clear'
[02:32] <raro> like to make sure I got the right usb
[02:32] <agkdomo> escott, ok ill try thanks
[02:32] <raro> cause I mounted many devices already
[02:32] <shellcode> can u add resulotion
[02:33] <shellcode> thats not in ubuntu x server
[02:33] <metabill> raro: use any level of verbosity you like. lsusb -vvv usually gives lots of info, even for devices not in use
[02:33] <shellcode> it goes up 1300 but my video card show it could hold 2000
[02:34] <metabill> shellcode: this might depend on the driver, though
[02:34] <hottwotrot> does anyone have any idea why I can reach my apache server within my LAN but not from outside? I have the port forwarding set up correctly
[02:34] <metabill> shellcode: do you use closed source drivers made by your vendor?
[02:34] <shellcode> what u mean
[02:34] <shellcode> ?
[02:35] <metabill> hottwotrot: it might not bind to the correct IP then. did you configure the vhost yet?
[02:35] <mpx> shellcodE: What kind of router do you router do  you use?
[02:35] <Dmole> raro: don't use lsusb to find the last device use tail /var/log/messages
[02:35] <shellcode> router?
[02:35] <AaronDCampbell> Ok, /etc/init/smb.conf exists, /etc/init.d/smbd -> /lib/init/upstart-job, but service --status-all shows ? for both smbd and samba4 after a restart
[02:35] <shellcode> what that got to do with wat im asking lol
[02:36] <metabill> shellcode: are you using drivers made by nVidia/ATI or by anyone ele?
[02:36] <shellcode> nvidia
[02:36] <shellcode> geoforce 210
[02:36] <metabill> shellcode: I guess mpx mistyped and meant to ask hottwotrot
[02:36] <l3d> simple way to change the gdm in ubuntu 10,10?
[02:36] <Dmole> raro: or dmesg
[02:36] <mpx> ^
[02:36] <mpx> my eyesight is terrible.
[02:39] <metabill> AaronDCampbell: that's not uncommon
[02:40] <metabill> AaronDCampbell: did you have a look at smb.conf, and made sure you configured it correctly?
[02:40] <AaronDCampbell> Well, it was working before the restart
[02:42] <metabill> AaronDCampbell: can you try to start it manually?
[02:42] <AaronDCampbell> metabill: how?  service smbd restart gives errors
[02:43] <rog> how can i get Ubuntu One to stop posting popups every time it synchronises some files?
[02:43] <metabill> AaronDCampbell: put the errors into a paste
[02:43] <robin0800> AaronDCampbell: you need sudo
[02:44] <GHOSTX> anyone here a ubuntu server geek?
[02:44] <AaronDCampbell> robin0800: thanks
[02:44] <GHOSTX> I need help install /detecting my wireless apadaer
[02:44] <GHOSTX> apdater
[02:44] <Starminn> When my system (Ubuntu 10.10) has special effects enabled and goes into power save mode, it won't resume. I've been using 10.10 on this computer for 8 months, and I've had this same setup (all the same effects, programs, etc.) for about 1 month and it only now started doing it out of the blue.
[02:44] <hottwotrot> metabill: sorry about that i was away from the computer, no I did not, what is that?
[02:45] <AaronDCampbell> metabill: ok, it says it started but service --status-all still shows ? and other computers can't see it
[02:46] <metabill> AaronDCampbell: make the other computers go directly to it, not discover it
[02:46] <AaronDCampbell> metabill: not sure how to do that from another ubuntu system
[02:47] <Catbuskris> /dev/dsp is the sound which enters my microphone.  Does anyone know how to get hold of the sound coming out of my speakers?
[02:47] <metabill> hottwotrot: if there is no vhost configured, you might not have any luck. please make sure apache2 listens on the ip that is being forwarded to
[02:47] <robin0800> rog: you can turn it off in ubuntu one under devices
[02:47] <AaronDCampbell> metabill: ran out to windows system...discovers AND goes to it fine
[02:47] <Catbuskris> (I want to run sounds through a FFT to see the frequencies within)
[02:47] <metabill> AaronDCampbell: you can usually just go places with the file manager, any type up a SMB address
[02:47] <hottwotrot> metabill: where do I see what ip apache listens to?
[02:49] <dragondon> Dmole: thanks for the suggestions but how do they relate to the current issue?  are they supplementary options?
[02:49] <dragondon> metabill: back, had to make brunch for the wife :)
[02:50] <AaronDCampbell> metabill: that worked.  I wonder why the other Ubuntu system can't discover it
[02:50] <metabill> hottwotrot: you can try reading the apache config file, or use apache2ctl -t -D DUMP_VHOSTS
[02:50] <dragondon> metabill: " ./ts3serverbinaryname voice_ip=X.X.X.X somemoreoptions > /dev/null &"  this looks like a command that would have to be run everytime
[02:51] <metabill> dragondon: either that, or you put the ts3server_startscript into a wrapper that can be called from initscripts ;)
[02:51] <tm0> Hi everyone, i need some help, i need to recover GRUB, but from within windows. I don't have acess to a USB or a live CD.
[02:51] <metabill> dragondon: ts3 does not come with upstart files, sadly
[02:52] <Dmole> dragondon: doing anything "> /dev/null &" without nohup can cause problems screen is the more popular alternative for services with output
[02:52] <dragondon> metabill: linux newbie....I understand the concept but not the implementation.
[02:52] <metabill> AaronDCampbell: samba can be hard to configure, better read the wiki or ask in a samba channel for anything deeper. :)
[02:52] <dragondon> Dmole: linux newbie.....I kinda get the idea but no experience with any of that.
[02:53] <metabill> dragondon: ok then, let's just say you can confiure the supplied ts3server_startscript and test if it works. you can make it permanent later.
[02:53] <bambanx>  guys how i can do for edit files on my os , and upload on ftp, i mean have a folder and edit files in this folder and when i want upload and sync wih the files of my server ?sorry for my english :)
[02:53] <hottwotrot> metabill: this is one of my qualms with apache, there are MANY config files BUT looking at /etc/apache2/apache2.conf it looks like everything in the sites-enabled directory should be, I guess, virtual hosts, and the only thing is there is the default setup... whcih I thought would work?
[02:54] <escott> bambanx, ftp is a bit of a pain to use, you might want to use a gui like fireftp plugin for firefox
[02:54] <metabill> hottwotrot: there is also a ports.conf file. make sure you listen on the port that is forwarded to. :)
[02:55] <metabill> hottwotrot: netstat will help to see whether your apache will listen on any interface (not just localhost)
[02:55] <bambanx> escott thanks but i need a system for edit in the folder and upload then
[02:56] <tm0> Hi everyone, i need some help, i need to recover GRUB, but from within windows. I don't have acess to a USB or a live CD to go to a live CLI.
[02:56] <metabill> bambanx: just edit with an editor on your OS, then upload later with fireftp
[02:57] <dragondon> metabill: as dumb as this may sound, I can't find the ts install directory.... locate teamspeak shows me a ton of directories but none of them seem like the install one
[02:57] <bambanx> i like a sync folder metabill
[02:58] <hottwotrot> metabill: what should I be looking for in netstat? Is there a convenient netstat |grep ***** that will show me the exactly line you want me to see?
[02:58] <metabill> bambanx: probably look for a html/web authoring tool that will sync after you changed something
[02:59] <bambanx> metabill, i will try with curlftpfs
[02:59] <metabill> hottwotrot: netstat -an | grep apache
[02:59] <excelsior> ok, so I'm about to install Ubuntu on my boss's computer. I want to be able to make grub boot into Windows by default though. Is that possible?
[02:59] <metabill> dragondon: query me
[02:59] <metabill> excelsior: it is. make windows the default entry and set the timeout to 30 seconds or less
[02:59] <tm0> Hi everyone, i need some help, i need to recover GRUB, but from within windows. I don't have acess to a USB or a live CD to go to a live CLI.
[03:00] <hottwotrot> metabill: unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     4741204  /var/run/apache2/cgisock.15154
[03:00] <excelsior> how?
[03:00] <dragondon> metabill: query me?
[03:00] <excelsior> is there a tutorial?
[03:00] <excelsior> metabill: and thanks in advance.
[03:01] <metabill> excelsior: I think so: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[03:01] <plov> anyone here use PPStream and can comment on how well it works in ubuntu?
[03:01] <metabill> hottwotrot: i believe apache isn't listening at all on a port
[03:02] <metabill> hottwotrot: can you see the default files (It works!) from the localhost?
[03:02] <hottwotrot> metabill: that I can see
[03:03] <hottwotrot> metabill: just can't se that from OUTSIDE the network
[03:03] <hypnoseal> Hello, looking to get some help on a fresh Ubuntu 11.04 install.  I am having troubles getting the Ethernet adapter to work with my router.  The motherboard is a AMD chipset, Gigabyte A75M-S2V.  My router is a Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH running DD-WRT v24 SP1.  In Ubuntu's network tools it shows that the Ethernet Interface (eth0) is tramitting packets but not receiving.  Anyone have an idea what is
[03:03] <hypnoseal> up?
[03:03] <metabill> hottwotrot: sorry, netstat -anp | grep apache  then )
[03:03] <metabill> hottwotrot: missing an option there the first time
[03:04] <excelsior> Is IT one of hte only jobs where you get in trouble for doing what your boss tells you to do?
[03:04] <nac-godfather> shouldn't your handle be spelled "hottotrot"?
[03:04] <nac-godfather> nope
[03:04] <hottwotrot> metabill: unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     4741204  -                   /var/run/apache2/cgisock.15154
[03:06] <metabill> hottwotrot: did you run it with -anp ?
[03:06] <Dmole> tm0: don't know about that but maybe grub from cygwin
[03:07] <nac-godfather> anyone know how to unhide my tools menu in xchat 2?
[03:07] <GHOSTX> Can someone help me install wireless on my ubuntu server?
[03:07] <hottwotrot> metabill: I did, i jsut copied and pasted
[03:07] <IdleOne> nac-godfather: F9
[03:08] <nac-godfather> nice, thank you IdleOne
[03:08] <plov> the next LTS would be 12.04 ?
[03:08] <metabill> nac-godfather: there ought to be a tutorial at the xchat site
[03:08] <nac-godfather> sure GHOSTX, is it usb or pci wireless card?  Please post the output of "lspci | grep 802.11"
[03:09] <metabill> hottwotrot: how did you check from the outside, though?
[03:09] <GHOSTX> nac-godfather, its a pci wireless card
[03:10] <GHOSTX> nac-godfather, i did some command to do a scan its said Realtek Semiconducto
[03:10] <soreau> ! realtek | GHOSTX
[03:10] <GHOSTX> nac-godfather, even though its encore wireless adapter card
[03:10] <nac-godfather> even though...
[03:10] <noonday> hi everyone, I was wondering if you could recommend a program or a method to share files across two networked computers. Like .. I would want to say move a document from one computer to another without using a USB key.
[03:10] <soreau> GHOSTX: The brand name does not reflect the actual chipset that is on the card
[03:11] <nac-godfather> yeah, just post the output of "lspci | grep 802.11" like I asked.
[03:11] <qin> noonday: scp
[03:11] <GHOSTX> soreau there website is down
[03:11] <GHOSTX> to download the rtl8187b
[03:12] <GHOSTX> nac-godfather unable to find it since
[03:12] <GHOSTX> its undetectable unless is sudo scan something
[03:12] <metabill> noonday: make one of them have a service running. samba, or ssh maybe, depending on your needs.
[03:12] <nac-godfather> hold on, i'll give you the link to the driver.
[03:13] <nac-godfather> I know exactly what you need to do.  What version of ubuntu are you using GHOSTX, and also, do you know how to compile from source?  It'll probably be necessary for this.
[03:13] <GHOSTX> well its a ubuntu server lastest one
[03:13] <GHOSTX> not the lts
[03:14] <nac-godfather> okay
[03:14] <GHOSTX> i can boot to the ubuntu desktop if u want me too?
[03:15] <bonhoffer> how do i tell what group i'm in?
[03:15] <GHOSTX> should i get the ubuntu server lts?
[03:16] <AGKdomo> I have no clue what I did in recovery mode but I think my computer is being fixed ..
[03:16] <Dmole> bonhoffer: id
[03:16] <soreau> GHOSTX: Seems to be working here
[03:16] <nac-godfather> u sure that's the chipset?\
[03:16] <soreau> GHOSTX: Does 'iwconfig' show a wlan0 interface?
[03:16] <escott> bonhoffer, "groups" and "id"
[03:16] <nac-godfather> 8187b
[03:16] <noonday> I´ll look into using SSH for sharing files.. thank you
[03:16] <bonhoffer> thanks!
[03:16] <GHOSTX> soreau doesn't show the wlan0
[03:17] <qin> noonday: hint of ultimate comfort: sshfs
[03:17] <soreau> GHOSTX: So the module for it probably isn't loaded. Does it work in your desktop version?
[03:17] <nac-godfather> you want help from me GHOSTX, you better get on the ball, fuckin' post the output of lsusb and lspci at pastebin and give me the link, or tell me the model number/name for the manufacturer
[03:17] <GHOSTX> nope
[03:17] <GHOSTX> same problem
[03:17] <hypnoseal> Hello, looking to get some help on a fresh Ubuntu 11.04 install.  I am having troubles getting the Ethernet adapter to work with my router.  The motherboard is a AMD chipset, Gigabyte A75M-S2V.  My router is a Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH running DD-WRT v24 SP1.  In Ubuntu's network tools it shows that the Ethernet Interface (eth0) is tramitting packets but not receiving.  Anyone have an idea what is
[03:17] <hypnoseal> up?
[03:17] <soreau> GHOSTX: Is it a newer wifi card?
[03:17] <Pat201> is it possible to switch from gnome in 11.04?
[03:17] <nac-godfather> yeah try "modprobe -l rtl8187b
[03:17] <GHOSTX> its a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833180058
[03:18] <nac-godfather> why go through the trouble
[03:18] <soreau> GHOSTX: Can you show the line for it from the output of 'lspci'?
[03:18] <GHOSTX> hold on nac-godfather i'm going post in paste bin
[03:18] <xangua> Pat201: you can use any desktop you want
[03:18] <urlin2u> ! language | nac-godfather
[03:18] <Pat201> good, how do i switch?
[03:18] <qin> Pat201: Swith to where?
[03:18] <GHOSTX> nac-godfather, when i did modprobe -l rtl8187b nothing happen
[03:19] <Pat201> i wanna use LXDE instead of gnome
[03:19] <nac-godfather> does lsmod, show any related driver (like any realteks)?
[03:19] <urlin2u> Pat201, in the terminal sudo apt-get install lxde
[03:19] <Dmole> Pat201: install it there will be an option on the login screen
[03:20] <GHOSTX> soreau, nac-godfather  http://paste.ubuntu.com/690474/
[03:20] <metulburr> is there any way to get gnome2 instead of unity?
[03:20] <Pat201> thank you
[03:20] <xangua> Pat201: urlin2u sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[03:20] <urlin2u> metulburr, at login choose classic
[03:20] <urlin2u> xangua, lxde will install it.
[03:20] <soreau> GHOSTX: Can you show the output of 'lspci -nn|grep Network'?
[03:20] <Dmole> metulburr: install it there should  be an option on the login screen
[03:21] <metulburr> classis i hate due to when i minimize windows they disappear but r still running
[03:21] <soreau> ! classic | metulburr
[03:21] <nac-godfather> I cannot get my linksys/cisco ae2500 working for the life of me.  I guess ndiswrapper is banned from bt5r1 too.  So lame.
[03:21] <GHOSTX> soreau, nac-godfather   http://paste.ubuntu.com/690475/
[03:21] <urlin2u> xangua, only about 5 more packages are needed on top og natty anyway.
[03:21] <urlin2u> of
[03:21] <AGKdomo> what does Stopping System V Runlevel compadtibility mean ?
[03:22] <escott> !upstart | AGKdomo
[03:22] <GHOSTX> dam i should have ask you guys
[03:22] <GHOSTX> to buy what wireless pci
[03:23] <soreau> GHOSTX: No reason to use pastebin for a single line
[03:23] <GHOSTX> compatable with ubuntu server
[03:23] <AGKdomo> Bah. this crap is borked looks like I have to do clean install from live cd
[03:23] <soreau> GHOSTX: realtek is a good chipset. You may just need to load the driver for it
[03:23] <GHOSTX> soreau sorry first time using it
[03:23] <Dmole> anyone know how to use cryptsetup?
[03:24] <metulburr> i mean it minimizes and disappears...but is still running in classic...is there any other desktop like classic but runs correctly
[03:24] <GHOSTX> which wireless adapter/pci u guys use for home server/ubuntu server?
[03:24] <soreau> GHOSTX: Does 'iwconfig' show wlan* interface? Where * is a wild card
[03:24] <nac-godfather> GHOSTX type "lsmod | grep -E (8190|rtl)" and tell us if anything comes up...
[03:24] <soreau> GHOSTX: I use atheros but that's just me
[03:25] <qin> GHOSTX: sudo apt-get update && jockey-text --list
[03:26] <soreau> qin: He doesn't need a proprietary driver..
[03:26] <nac-godfather> yeah, because I don't really feel like walkin you through it GHOSTX, I don't have enough time for compiling the module tonight
[03:26] <qin> soreau: oh, my bad.
[03:26] <GHOSTX> nac-godfather, lsmod | grep -E (8190|rtl) syntax error
[03:27] <nac-godfather> what!  okay just this then "lsmod"
[03:27] <nac-godfather> haha
[03:27] <nac-godfather> paste it at pastebin
[03:27] <soreau> GHOSTX: It's supposed to be 'lsmod|egrep "8190|rtl"'
[03:27] <soreau> nac-godfather: "", not () ;)
[03:27] <nac-godfather> no, forgot the additional quotations
[03:27] <GHOSTX> lo        no wireless extensions.
[03:27] <GHOSTX> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[03:28] <nac-godfather> lsmod | grep -E "(8190|rtl)"
[03:28] <soreau> nac-godfather: "(*|*)" would be wrong..
[03:28] <nac-godfather> works too
[03:28] <soreau> nope
[03:28] <dreamsofreason> Any idea why Xubuntu 11.04 shows my older Dell 17" monitor as "default?" It also doesn't allow me to choose a resolution other than 1024x768 and 0.0 refresh rate.
[03:28] <soreau> oh maybe it does..
[03:28] <soreau> huh
[03:28] <nac-godfather> anyone here successfully using/used a linksys (usb) ae2500?
[03:29] <soreau> GHOSTX: 'lsmod|grep rtl' should suffice.. or just pastebin the output of lsmod
[03:29] <GHOSTX> nac-godfather, soreau http://pastebin.com/61J3fyMs
[03:29] <GHOSTX> nothing happen
[03:30] <GHOSTX> What wireless adapter should i buy that works right out of box with the lastet ubuntu 11
[03:30] <nac-godfather> yeah, obviously you didn't type it right, r u serious?  just tell us the output of lsmod please
[03:30] <soreau> GHOSTX: Ok the first command was correct there, with no output
[03:30] <soreau> GHOSTX: Meaning, no module was automatically loaded for it
[03:31] <soreau> GHOSTX: I assume 'lsb_release -a' shows you're using natty?
[03:31] <GHOSTX> its natty 11.04
[03:31] <soreau> GHOSTX: Is it a newer wifi card?
[03:31] <GHOSTX> there is no jockey-text
[03:31] <GHOSTX> yes
[03:32] <GHOSTX> just recently bought in newegg
[03:32] <soreau> GHOSTX: It may not be supported in the kernel you have yet
[03:32] <GHOSTX> ENCORE ENLWI-NX2 32bit PCI Wireless 1T2R Adapter
[03:32] <GHOSTX> i see
[03:32] <soreau> GHOSTX: You might want to try 11.10 as soon as it's released next month
[03:32] <nac-godfather> go here and let me know when you find the right driver...  http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=13&PFid=21&Level=4&Conn=3
[03:32] <GHOSTX> do you have a wireless adapter ur self?
[03:33] <soreau> GHOSTX: Yes, I use atheros chipsets. But that doesn't mean newer atheros chips are supported in slightly older kernels yet either
[03:33] <nac-godfather> I have rtl8192SU and rtl8187C I think
[03:33] <nac-godfather> SU one was really tricky.
[03:33] <nac-godfather> had to add folder in modules directory
[03:34] <soreau> GHOSTX: You might be able to compile the driver for it if you found the right code.. but first just try loading the rtl module and see what happens
[03:34] <megamindstorm101> Intel® Centrino® Advanced-N 6205 thats it he network card i am using and I want to get it to work nicely with ubuntu 11.04 because my internet is FREAKING SLOW! like under 20kb/s
[03:34] <megamindstorm101> i got this laptop for linux use and i cant even get the intenret to work any of you guys nkow where i can find drivers or something to get this to work fast?
[03:34] <soreau> GHOSTX: As root: modinfo rtl8187
[03:34] <soreau> erm
[03:35] <soreau> GHOSTX: I meant modprobe rtl8187
[03:35] <soreau> GHOSTX: Or it might be rtl8192ce
[03:35] <GHOSTX> so far i login as root and do i sudo modprobe rtl8187?
[03:35] <GHOSTX> nothing happen
[03:35] <soreau> GHOSTX: rmmod to unload a module you loaded with modprobe
[03:35] <soreau> GHOSTX: After loading it, check iwconfig for a wlan0 iface
[03:36] <soreau> GHOSTX: No output typically means it loaded successfully
[03:36] <megamindstorm101> nobody nkows how to get my internet working nicely using a Intel® Centrino® Advanced-N 6205 ? in ubnutun 11.04
[03:36] <GHOSTX> lo, eth0 no wireless extensions.
[03:36] <nac-godfather> lsmod shows you all the modules that are in use.  If it's not there, then you need to install it.
[03:36] <soreau> GHOSTX: So rmmod rtl8187 and modprobe rtl8192ce
[03:36] <soreau> GHOSTX: Yes, 'lsmod|grep rtl' to see any that are loaded
[03:36] <megamindstorm101> ok idk whos talking to me or someone else
[03:37] <Lasers> What is the nice tool that I could use to compile information about my hardware so I can sell it on eBay? :o
[03:37] <megamindstorm101> and wired and wireless internet doesnt work with unbunt
[03:37] <nac-godfather> realtek's site does not have a linux driver for 8187C, so please verify that is the correct chip, google is your friend.
[03:37] <soreau> megamindstorm101: What isn't working about your internet? How are you trying to connect?
[03:37] <megamindstorm101> I can connect but it is very very slow at about 20kb/s
[03:38] <megamindstorm101> I have installed all of the updates and such but my network is still slow, I could not locate any linux drivers for the Intel® Centrino® Advanced-N 6205.
[03:38] <soreau> GHOSTX: Yes, you can google the vendor:product id numbers from the output of 'lspci -nn|grep Network' (the numbers in the format xxxx:xxxx)
[03:38] <soreau> megamindstorm101: How do you connect?
[03:39] <megamindstorm101> wired and wireless I have tried both
[03:39] <megamindstorm101> soreau: they are both slow
[03:39] <soreau> megamindstorm101: What version of ubuntu?
[03:39] <megamindstorm101> soreau: ubuntu 11.04 (also tried linux mint 11 which is heavily based on ubuntu apparently)
[03:39] <GHOSTX> soreau, nac-godfather oh snap when i did lsmod|grep rtl  http://paste.ubuntu.com/690482/
[03:40] <hypnoseal> My network card is a Realtek 8168B and it won't even connect for me.  Trying to find bug fix
[03:40] <AGKdomo> in recovery mode from grub menu are you connected to the internet already ?
[03:41] <soreau> GHOSTX: If you don't have a wlan* iface in the output of 'iwconfig', it's probably not the right module
[03:41] <excelsior> Installer crashed. I clicked into the terminal and scrolled around to watch as it installed. I hit pagedown a couple of times, and it printed to the terminal. I backspaced before it did anything else, but I wonder if I caused the install to crash. Any thoughts?
[03:41] <soreau> ! realtek | hypnoseal GHOSTX
[03:42] <megamindstorm101> soreau: are you familiar with this problem?
[03:42] <soreau> megamindstorm101: no, I am not
[03:43] <megamindstorm101> soreau: well I found a lot of issues on this slow internet problem but could not find any answers, it seems what most are doing is just installing the drivers manually for their card but I dont know where to locate the linux drivers for this card Intel® Centrino® Advanced-N 6205
[03:43] <GHOSTX> soreau where can i get this rtl8187b direct link
[03:43] <soreau> megamindstorm101: What wifi card is it as reported by the output of lspci?
[03:44] <GHOSTX> i want to wget instead download win7 and transfer to ubuntu server
[03:44] <excelsior> Installer crashed. I clicked into the terminal and scrolled around to watch as it installed. I hit pagedown a couple of times, and it printed to the terminal. I backspaced before it did anything else, but I wonder if I caused the install to crash. Any thoughts?
[03:45] <soreau> GHOSTX: The one ubottu gave should work
[03:45] <megamindstorm101> soreau: alright i literally just uninstalled ubuntu so I will go into a live cd and tell you what it says
[03:45] <raro> anybody here good with usb and linux?
[03:46] <raro> http://pastebin.com/fEhkD1qT
[03:46] <GHOSTX> soreau gzip: stdin: not in gzip format tar:Child returned status 1 tar: error is not recoverable:exting now
[03:47] <soreau> GHOSTX: What gives you that output?
[03:47] <GHOSTX> when i try tar -zxvf it gavem that error
[03:49] <soreau> GHOSTX: Well you did it wrong.. whatever tarball you're trying to decompress, it should typically be 'tar -xf /path/to/tarball.tar'
[03:49] <excelsior> Ubuntu installer crashed. I clicked into the terminal and scrolled around to watch as it installed. I hit pagedown a couple of times, and it printed to the terminal. I backspaced before it did anything else, but I wonder if I caused the install to crash. Now I'm on a live CD, with Unity desktop, and everything but the wallpaper and mouse pointer disappeared when I clicked the Ubuntu symbol top left, and now it's incredibly unresponsive. Any thoughts?
[03:49] <ilumi> looking for an app to sync 2 folders on the same pc, different drives, any ideas?
[03:50] <BlackByrd> I want to try Firefox 6, but it's not in Synaptic, Can I safely install it from its website or definitely stay with Firefox 3?? (I'm on 10.04 LTS)
[03:50] <AGKdomo> IS there a way I can restore ubuntu 11.04 packages from RECOVERY MODE terminal ?
[03:50] <escott> !downgrade | AGKdomo
[03:51] <AGKdomo> my systems already fd up,and I don't no howbto fix it
[03:51] <AGKdomo> I tried sudo get apt upgrade
[03:51] <AGKdomo> but it can't fetch packages
[03:51] <escott> AGKdomo, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:51] <soreau> excelsior: probably unity crashed
[03:52] <escott> AGKdomo, try to go straight to the upgrade step then
[03:52] <soreau> AGKdomo: Can you ping google.com?
[03:53] <AGKdomo> there is no upgrade step install froze so I restarted now I can't boot into install I gotta use recovery mode from grub menu
[03:53] <urlin2u> BlackByrd, https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable
[03:53] <megamindstorm101> soreau: http://pastie.org/2541104 that is what shows up in my terminal
[03:53] <escott> AGKdomo, what recovery are you at. grub recovery or single user mode
[03:53] <escott> AGKdomo, or initrd recover
[03:54] <AGKdomo> uhh. I think its grub recovery, it was the second option in little menu
[03:55] <megamindstorm101> soreau: so I need to find drivers for that and how to set it up so my internet is smooth as butter
[03:55] <soreau> megamindstorm101: You have an atheros wifi card. No idea why it would be slow but if the same happens on a hard wired ethernet connection, my guess is the problem isn't with the network cards' drivers
[03:55] <megamindstorm101> soreau: well it happened on my desktop as well when I installed ubuntu, I never had this problem with 10.04 though
[03:55] <escott> AGKdomo, you mean the recovery kernel. but how far is it booting
[03:55] <urlin2u> AGKdomo, type a few lettrs of the nic your answering and hit tab to complete its helpful. :D
[03:56] <rue_mohr> I changed my video card, X dosn't work, how do I get X to reconfigure so that everything works again?
[03:56] <rue_mohr> 9I'm on a terminal)
[03:56] <AGKdomo> I'm on a irc on phone yin2u
[03:56] <escott> rue_mohr, changed the card from what to what
[03:56] <excelsior> soreau: ok, so unity crashed, now what? Installer crashed too. Should I try reinstalling?
[03:56] <rue_mohr> from a trident 9200 to a nvidia GTX590
[03:57] <excelsior> I can't even get a terminal.
[03:57] <soreau> excelsior: Probably. If you can run anything, try to run metacity --replace
[03:57] <AGKdomo> and escott recovery kernal i can enter commands, .. when I try to do a normal boot I get to this black screen where it says checking battery status
[03:57] <rue_mohr> escott, I recall this isn't the same monitor either...
[03:57] <excelsior> did my pagedowns in the installing terminal mess it up?
[03:57] <escott> rue_mohr, monitor shouldnt matter. if you have a /etc/x11/xorg.conf rename it
[03:58] <rue_mohr> to anything?
[03:58] <SIFTU> rue_mohr: do you have an xorg.conf
[03:58] <rue_mohr> yes
[03:58] <escott> rue_mohr, xorg.conf.bak is a good choice, then sudo service gdm restart
[03:58] <megamindstorm101> soreau: so what do you reccomend? go back to 10.04? try the 11.10 alpha? or do you nkow a way to get better drivers for it?
[03:58] <excelsior> did my pagedowns in the installing terminal mess it up?
[03:58] <eVisetax> !find
[03:59] <escott> AGKdomo, so boot the recovery kernel and then run apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade until it doesn't report anything to upgrade
[03:59] <soreau> megamindstorm101: First thing to do would be to identify the real problem. When you connect wired or wirelessly, make sure the other one is completely disconnected
[03:59] <AGKdomo> uhhh ok ill try
[03:59] <escott> AGKdomo, the freeze on the boot of the non-recovery kernel could be an acpi issue or something
[03:59] <soreau> megamindstorm101: Try anything to narrow down the problem so you can identify what's actually happening
[04:00] <excelsior> I'm gonna be mad at myself for this stupid install. I should have just gone to bed.
[04:00] <megamindstorm101> soreau: I have done that actually and it didnt help at all
[04:00] <megamindstorm101> soreau: in fact wireless appears to be about 10kb/s faster
[04:00] <rue_mohr> escott, :) thanks!
[04:00] <escott> rue_mohr, was that successful?
[04:00] <rue_mohr> yea!
[04:00] <rue_mohr> thankyou
[04:01] <soreau> megamindstorm101: It would be a big coincidence if both the ethernet and wifi drivers were broken in the same way though it isn't completely inconceivable
[04:01] <escott> rue_mohr, then the next step is to use jockey-gtk to install the nvidia drivers for 3d support
[04:01]  * rue_mohr gives escott a virtual $100 note
[04:01] <shellcode> 1360x768 shows on the x server but my nivida cards put out
[04:01] <rue_mohr> :) sweet, thanks
[04:01] <shellcode> 2048x1563
[04:01] <megamindstorm101> soreau: I think it is ubuntus fault however because i have run 11.04 on 3 different computers and all of them had the same exact problem, the same problem that 10.04 never had with me
[04:02] <soreau> megamindstorm101: As I said, I would guess that the problem is elsewhere but not sure what. It also might be of benefit to ask in ##networking
[04:02] <shellcode> maybe my screen is not supported>???
[04:02] <soreau> megamindstorm101: Well I run 11.04 on at least two different machines and there is no such problem.
[04:03] <megamindstorm101> soreau: I dont know man, I remember using the alpha for 11.04 and having just as much trouble ever since the start 11.04 has been buggy to the max with me. And according to the internet's (:P) many others have this same problem... many with atheros
[04:04] <urlin2u> megamindstorm101, Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network  no problems
[04:05] <AGKdomo> haha pressing random buttons made.gnome boot ;P
[04:06] <megamindstorm101> urlin2u: when I looked up the problem of slow internet on 11.04 90% of them had atheros cards. But i dont think it is atheros as I said because I have tried 11.04 on 3 machines and all of them had this slow internet problem. Last time I ran ubuntu with no problems it was 10.04 thats why I am wondering if I should go back to 10.04
[04:06] <kaushik__> how can we repair grub if we install the ubuntu using Wubi
[04:06] <kaushik__> and there opens some terminal each time to boot up
[04:06] <soreau> megaloman: Well you can try building your own driver and test for yourself or try an 11.10 live session to see if it's fixed
[04:08] <urlin2u> megamindstorm101, maybe so.
[04:09] <megamindstorm101> urlin2u: its just that so many dont have problems, but so many do, I really dont know how to find it and fix it. I have 1 person telling me "just stick with windows or an older ubuntu" and 1 person telling me "there is always a way to configure it to be faster" so I am in a lost sort of state
[04:10] <urlin2u> megamindstorm101, your rational is flawed have you ever studied statitics?
[04:10] <urlin2u> statistics*
[04:11] <megamindstorm101> urlin2u: what? and lol I took a statistics class last year.
[04:12] <urlin2u> megamindstorm101, then you should know better you have no real numbers as to when it has worked or not, so it may not work in your case you just have to confirm that.
[04:14] <GHOSTX> i though linux would solve all the old wireless cards/apdater driver
[04:15] <urlin2u> megamindstorm101, the web info says out of the box which it is why so slow is the question I know.
[04:16] <Pat201> im using 11.04, and i installed xubuntu. i cant stand it how do i uninstall it?
[04:16] <urlin2u> Pat201, you have any other OS on the computer, and have you tried the classic desktop?
[04:17] <Pat201> yes, i had ubuntu classic its still there but the log in screen is xubuntu
[04:17] <lion42> So.. select ubuntu classic
[04:17] <lion42> and use that?
[04:18] <shellcode> driver is activated but not in use?
[04:18] <shellcode> wat does that
[04:18] <shellcode> mean?
[04:18] <urlin2u> Pat201, any other OS on the computer if you need to remove the Natty?
[04:19] <lokomis> I think Pat201 just wants to remove XFCE and it's packages
[04:19] <Pat201> yes
[04:19] <Pat201> i just want to remove it
[04:19] <lokomis> You already had a Gnome install and just added XFCE, correct?
[04:19] <Pat201> yes
[04:19] <Pat201> just need to know the terminal command to get rid of it
[04:20] <jamie> noob here in need of assistance
[04:20] <Jose> jajaja
[04:20] <Jose> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[04:20] <lokomis> lemme put on my Goggles because I'm not sure if it's as simple as an apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop and then an autoremove or not.  You should still be able to use Gnome though by choosing that as you session on the login screen
[04:20] <urlin2u> jamie, we can't help till we know whats going on. :D
[04:21] <jamie> great! Do you know how to use i2p?
[04:21] <Pat201> ill try it
[04:21] <urlin2u> lokomis, the psychocats site has the complete dektop list if needd.
[04:21] <urlin2u> desktop/needed*
[04:22] <jamie> Or rather, does anybody know how to use I2P?
[04:22] <urlin2u> !details | jamie
[04:22] <Pat201> hmm it claims to be removed, ill reboot and get back to you
[04:22] <lion42> lokomis, I'm looking in the software center, and it has an option to use that to delete xubuntu-desktop, and also to select what packages associated with xubuntu to delete with it. I think this would work?
[04:22] <lion42> ... or that.
[04:23] <lokomis> bah, they left.  hope that worked.   we'll find out in a second
[04:23] <lokomis> will probably need to to an autoremove as well
[04:23] <lendsk009> nick sonu
[04:23] <jamie> I have installed I2p through the terminal according to the instructions on the site, but now I am unable to locate it
[04:24] <lendsk009> hi.. can anyone tell me how can i mount my usb drive again as its nt opening in pc
[04:24] <lokomis> Pat201 Success?
[04:25] <Pat201> hmm no luck, still says xubuntu on boot up
[04:25] <urlin2u> lokomis, this is what may be needed. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[04:25] <lendsk009> n m using ubuntu 11.04
[04:25] <Pat201> yeah, i thought a purge might be in order
[04:25] <lion42> Pat201, but is xubuntu still actually present? Are you worried about the cosmetics or the space being used by xubuntu or what?
[04:25] <lion42> Honestly, in this situation I just straight up wouldn't delete it, heh
[04:26] <th0r> Pat201: that is just the login theme I think
[04:26] <Pat201> space and cosmetics
[04:26] <ohhi> a reanstall of the normal desktop would overide xubuntu i think
[04:26] <th0r> xfce uses gdm....a reinstall is not necessary
[04:27] <urlin2u> Pat201, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[04:27] <lokomis> that page urlin2u just linked might help as well.  it lists other packages to remove that are included when xubuntu-desktop is installed
[04:27] <lendsk009> can any1 give me suggestion dat how can i get my data from that usb drive
[04:28] <Pat201> ok so far so good, thank you guys for the help
[04:28] <jamie> ledsk: what exactly is the problem?
[04:28] <lendsk009> actually problem is that it is not mounting
[04:29] <lendsk009> n showing the name of usb drive "USB 30X"
[04:30] <ohhi> and what is the error when you try the mount command ?
[04:30] <jamie> lendsk: Try this, if no help, lemme know: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[04:31] <Pat201> got another question for you guys, how could i manually run a fsck?
[04:31] <megamindstorm101> urlin2u: i am unsure what you are talking about on that statistics thing, I was estimating based on what I have looked up "ie. slow internet ubuntu 11.04" and out of the 5 or 6 relatively usefull posts 4 or 5 of them were people using atheros cards...
[04:31] <Flannel> Pat201: `sudo touch /forcefsck` then reboot, and you'll fsck while booting.
[04:33] <jamie> Anyone able to talk me through the process of setting up i2p on Natty?
[04:34] <lendsk009> hi.. can anyone tell me how can i mount my usb drive again as its nt opening in pc
[04:35] <lendsk009> how can i again mount my usb drive again
[04:35] <ohhi> okey lendsk009 do you know the devices name ?
[04:36] <dr_willis> mount by hand to see if it works lendsk009
[04:36] <lendsk009> yeah ohhi
[04:36] <ohhi> comand looks like: mount /dev/sdb1 /media
[04:36] <lendsk009> itz showing USB 30X
[04:37] <ohhi> no not that
[04:37] <lendsk009> hmmm
[04:37] <ohhi> do you have gpartet installed
[04:37] <ohhi> ?
[04:37] <lendsk009> naah itz nt installed
[04:37] <dr_willis> if its a ntfs with errors it will say so
[04:37] <th0r> lendsk009: try taking the space out of the drive label
[04:38] <lendsk009> how can i do that thor
[04:38] <th0r> lendsk009: gparted
[04:39] <ohhi> yes install taht first
[04:39] <lendsk009> wat do gparted do thor
[04:39] <th0r> lendsk009: among other things...it can be used to change drive labels
[04:40] <dr_willis> spaves in labels can be annoying
[04:40] <dr_willis> spaces
[04:40] <lokomis> I'd suggest starting with Ubuntu's Disk Utility just to see if it is recognized in there.
[04:40] <lokomis> It can be used to change the labels as well and doesn't require installing anything new right away.
[04:40] <lendsk009> okk thor
[04:41] <lendsk009> okkk
[04:42] <lendsk009> itz lso not working thor
[04:43] <lendsk009> *also
[04:44] <lendsk009> thor r u there????????????????
[04:44] <th0r> lendsk009: ?
[04:45] <lendsk009> plz tell na hw can i restore my data from dat corrupted pd
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> lendsk009: use your backups is the most reliable and fastest way
[04:46] <lendsk009> ActionParsnip> dear itz also not working
[04:47] <th0r> lendsk009: what's not working?? You are doing nothing to help yourself
[04:48] <lendsk009> ActionParsnip: ??????????
[04:48] <dr_willis> time to restate the original issue I think.
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> lendsk009: what do you mean 'isn't working'?
[04:48] <dr_willis> in detail.
[04:49] <lendsk009> i mean when itz not opening then hw can i backup it
[04:50] <dr_willis> if you have no backups. then take this as a lesson in learning the value of doing backups
[04:50] <explodes> Does smartctl come standard w/ ubuntu or did i install at one point in time... ?
[04:52] <urlin2u> explodes, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man8/smartctl.8.html
[04:52]  * ActionParsnip is so tired of people without backups
[04:52] <bullgard4> When exactly will be deletd the files in /etc/ ?
[04:52] <explodes> thanks urlin2u
[04:53] <th0r> bullgard4: when hell freezes over I hope
[04:53] <Avasz> my ipod doesnt work in rythmbox, amarok, banshee, gtkpod, hipod.. but it is detected as image device.. :(
[04:53] <urlin2u> explodes, no problem. :D
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> lendsk009: get a backup if your data is important. The drive motor can and will fail, then no amount of software will save your data and you will be forking out literally THOSANDS of dollars for professional and ungarunteeed data recovery. Contrast that with a couple hundred for a USB drive
[04:53] <urlin2u> cough clonezilla
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> just every now and again copy the data you want, doesn't need to be complex
[04:55] <Avasz> I cant install xp in my vbox, it installs fine.. but when it reboots..it comes with a bsod. what may be the issue?
[04:55] <Lasers> XP may be the issue!
[04:55] <lendsk009>  ActionParsnip:thanx
[04:55] <Avasz> means?
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> lendsk009: you can use foremost or scalpel in the liveCD environment and you may get the data. It may be that your data has been overwritten, in which case it is GONE. You have learned the value of backups the hardest way possible
[04:56] <Lasers> Avasz: Dunno. Just write down the BSOD code and google. You will get somewhere with that particular error code.
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> Avasz: try different hardware settings, ACPI / APIC on and off
[04:56] <Avasz> ok.
[04:56] <Avasz> i have been trying for almost a year now. (now and then). with different isos and cds. 7 works fine.
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> Avasz: but did you tweak the vbox settings, like disabling sound to see if it halps as well as what I suggested abov?
[04:58] <Lasers> Could be SATA. I'm really guessing here.
[04:58] <Legend_Xeon> How do i mount FAT32 disk with full access( Read and write ) using mount command?
[04:58] <dr_willis> tinyxp works fine in vbox for me ;)
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> Legend_Xeon: have you read:   man mount
[04:58] <dr_willis> Legend_Xeon:  with the umask option I recall.
[04:59] <Legend_Xeon> no
[04:59] <Legend_Xeon> i see
[04:59] <Legend_Xeon> thanks
[04:59] <dr_willis> or was it dmask and fmask
[04:59] <Avasz> i havent tried disabling sound.. but i had tried changing the ide  stuffs. PIIX4 etc.
[04:59] <ujjain> How can I see the media players I installed?
[04:59] <urlin2u> Avasz, if you didn't stick with ide on virtual box and have no sata drivers that may be it, XP discs legit ones unless a OEM generaly don't have the sata drivers.
[05:00] <Avasz> urlin2u: hmm.. but one thing that amazes me is... same iso works in save version of vbox in my laptop.
[05:00] <qin> ujjain: What media player have you installed?
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> ujjain: in software centre   search for: player     may give clues, or look through dash (I assume Unity session)
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> Avasz: disable as much as possible. You may want to ask in #vbox
[05:01] <ujjain> qin: well, I have Amarok, but I want to know what else is installed, preferably in Ubuntu via a list, not via package management.
[05:01] <Avasz> disabled audio. no luck.
[05:01] <Avasz> ok. i am hanging in #vbox but no one seems to be active.
[05:02] <dataspy> rm -rf windows
[05:02] <qin> dataspy: Is it funny?
[05:02] <ujjain> does Ubuntu leave much behind if I install 95 new packages and uninstall it?
[05:02] <qin> ujjain: Are you unity?
[05:02] <excelsior> Help! I just installed, and I get a screen that says Pheonix ROM BIOS PLUS version 1.10 A04 ... copyrights... Drive 1 not found: Serial ATA, SATA-2 ; Drive 3 not found: Parallel ATA, PATA-1 (PRI IDE Slave) Please help!
[05:03] <dr_willis> ujjain:  if you use the purge option. nothing should be left
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> excelsior: thats a hardware issue, not ubuntu
[05:03] <qin> ujjain: Apart of dot files in ~
[05:03] <ujjain> ok awesome, I hate the bloat left behind in Windows.
[05:04] <sim-paf> hello brother
[05:04] <qin> ujjain: but you can use locate to check after apt
[05:04] <ujjain> I am installing Amarok now, but I hate installing 93 packages, but I guess it's not as bad as the clutter that would be generated on Windows.
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> ujjain: make sure you run:  sudo apt-get clean
[05:04] <ujjain> Yeah, and purge too I think?
[05:04] <sim-paf> hey anyone can help me ??
[05:05] <ujjain> sim-paf: Don't ask to ask, just ask.
[05:05] <sim-paf> how can i change my repository source address with apt???
[05:05] <qin> sim-paf: To what?
[05:05] <ujjain> I would edit /etc/apt/sources.list, but should be possible in Synaptics.
[05:05] <Monona> Hey, I'm running Lucid with 2.6.33-29-realtime kernel.  My system has been freezing up lately, and I'm not sure how to troubleshoot it.
[05:06] <sim-paf> ohk thanks
[05:06] <ujjain> Monona: You have to manually reboot? Have you checked syslog, messages, etc? What shows on the screen during a freeze?
[05:06] <needhelp1> has there been any talk about the proposed change in the release cycle? changing to a rolling release?
[05:06] <qin> Monona: You could try to make snapshot of "incident" and paste revelant logs: syslog kern.log messages
[05:07] <Monona> ujjain: Screen stays up, just frozen.  Haven't check syslog or messages because I'm not sure how to do that or what to look for.
[05:07] <Monona> qin: How would I do that?
[05:07] <excelsior> ActionParsnip: it didn't happen until I installed Ubuntu.
[05:07] <vibhav> I tried to install Ubuntu 11.04.
[05:07] <vibhav> First i ran wubi.exe then I got 3 options to install
[05:07] <vibhav> 1) Demo and full install
[05:07] <vibhav> 2) install in windows (which i can remove)
[05:07] <vibhav> 3) Learn more
[05:07] <FloodBot1> vibhav: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:07] <vibhav> I ran option 2 and because I didn't have internet so it failed because it tries to download the .iso.
[05:07] <wmp> hello, i have problem on 11.10, my init.d dont start on boot when i do update update-rc.d hdparm default
[05:07] <qin> Monona: by watchig logs
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> excelsior: its outside of any os, the BIOS is having issues seeing your drives. Its not an ubuntu issue.
[05:08] <ujjain> Monona: reboot the computer and check out the logs at the specific time. See if there is any special message at that specific time.
[05:08] <ujjain> should be easy to see due to a gap in logging while it's frozen.
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> wmp: ask in #ubuntu+1 for oneiric issues
[05:08] <excelsior> it was booting XP just fine until now.
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> excelsior: maybe the install worked the hardware and caused it to fail.
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> excelsior: its a hardware issue
[05:09] <vibhav> Hello guys , one of my friends have a WUBI problem - He says "Then i download the .iso 11.04 and create a USB boot.
[05:09] <vibhav> I also copied the .iso into the same folder as wubi.exe and ran wubi.exe again. But option 2 (install in Windows) disappeared.
[05:09] <excelsior> I was installing, the installer crashed, I reinstalled, it said it worked, and now this?
[05:09] <Monona> What would I enter at the terminal to check logs?
[05:10] <urlin2u> vibhav, have you had a look here.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How_do_I_install_Wubi_on_a_machine_with_no_Internet_connection.3F
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> vibhav: did you MD5 test the ISO? You can use daemontools / magicdisk to mount the ISO, you can run Wubi from there
[05:10] <excelsior> hitting f2 as it comes on, it recognizes them just fine.
[05:10] <qin> Monona: There is gui log viewer, but: cd /var/log and less messages or any other
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> qin: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/11/ubuntu-tips-how-to-view-system-log-files-in-gui/
[05:11] <qin> ActionParsnip: Hm?
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> qin: gui log viewer :D
[05:12] <Monona> qin: Ah, just ran it now.  I would want to run that right after I reboot when it crashes, right?
[05:12] <ujjain> I don't find site fonts very pretty in Ubuntu though.
[05:12] <ujjain> Monona: No, it has time stamps.
[05:12] <excelsior> And now I have GRUB!
[05:12] <excelsior> What's the deal!?
[05:12] <usagiakumu> Hi there, I am kind of new to the world of Linux and would like a bit of hand holding, my brother talked me into downloading Ubuntu and I need to know a few things
[05:12] <ujjain> Monona: If you know the time, you can just scroll up to the right time.
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> usagiakumu: ask away
[05:13] <topspeed> hey
[05:13] <excelsior> The disk drive for /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready yet or not present" what does that mean?
[05:13] <usagiakumu> first off I need some replacement tools, a nice wysiwyg DVD auth tool, something to replace fl studio and windows movie maker
[05:14] <ujjain> excelsior: with Wubi you get grub? Yeah, that's not cool :P
[05:14] <usagiakumu> basically Windows DVD Maker replacement would be fine but if there is something like Nero DVD tools I would be at home
[05:14] <excelsior> I didn't use Wubi, doof.
[05:15] <ujjain> excelsior: If you install Windows, then Ubuntu, you get Grub yes, as boot manager. Should be fine.
[05:15] <dr_willis> I tend to just use devede usagiakumu . its basic but.does what I need
[05:15] <excelsior> what is "Install Release"?
[05:15] <dragondon> Thanks to metabill for helping me with TeamSpeak Server!!
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> usagiakumu: pitivi can do video editting, devede can make DVD ISOs of movies which you can then burn
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> usagiakumu: what is fl studio?
[05:16] <lokomis> usagiakumu check out kdenlives.org or lives.sourceforge.net for WMM alternatives
[05:16] <usagiakumu> audio recording/mixing tool
[05:16] <lokomis> FL studio = Fruity Loops
[05:16] <lokomis> ^
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> usagiakumu: lmms is similar to frooty loops
[05:16] <excelsior> ujjain: I had the comp not recognize the drives on first boot after install. I then plugged in a USB keyboard (it's got a bluetooth one) and reboot, and it comes up.
[05:16] <usagiakumu> ok so lmms
[05:17] <tensorpudding> usagiakumu: check out Bombono, maybe
[05:17] <excelsior> ujjain: that's why I was surprised to get GRUB. Now i need to figure out how to make XP default...
[05:17] <usagiakumu> Anyone do any Android hacking in here? How well are the SDK tools and Java DK tools supported?
[05:17] <Monona> ujjain:  Ah, I see that.  I don't know exactly when I'm looking for but: http://pastebin.com/YmRqPTvq
[05:18] <usagiakumu> I mean obviously Odin wont be running
[05:18] <usagiakumu> but Odin is Samsung only
[05:19] <vibhav> How do I get my iPad to work woth Ubuntu
[05:19] <ujjain> excelsior: Just set time out to 2 and edit grub.conf.
[05:19] <ujjain> excelsior: Grub will have to auto-boot, but you can just make the time-out 2 seconds so it autoboots XP via grub.conf
[05:20] <Sterist> anyone know if theres a program that will mount an ISO (such as ubuntu installer) ? i've tried a few but they get mounted as removable media but not a CD
[05:20] <lokomis> usagiakumu I haven't done anything with android myself but my buddy has fooled around with it.  Shouldn't be any trouble to install Java/elipse IDE/etc
[05:20] <usagiakumu> ok so will my emulators work with 64 bit? like I want to emulate NES, Game Boy, and Genesis I do own the carts to the roms I play I just like keeping them stored
[05:20] <Dana29> Hello, can someone recommend me on good tool for proxy switching? (that comes with proxy list) ?
[05:20] <ujjain> Monona: No useful data in that file, also check out the other. I tend to do ls -ltr after restart and check last edited files.
[05:21] <lokomis> Pretty sure they should work on 64 bit but I can't vouch for it yet.  I'm on my laptop which is running 32-bit and I've no issues running NES, SNES, Genesis.  Even Nintendo DS actually despite this being a clunky 7'ish year old notebook.
[05:21] <usagiakumu> the extent of my gaming is roms basically lol
[05:22] <lokomis> I've had Diablo 2/LOD running pretty smoothly in Wine too
[05:22] <usagiakumu> im not hard to please gaming wise
[05:22] <vibhav> How do I get my iPad to work woth Ubuntu!
[05:22] <lokomis> this clunker has an old ATI Mobility Radeon x600
[05:22] <usagiakumu> see I never got into PC gaming
[05:22] <lokomis> ah.  I used to be console player and then I got a dreamcast
[05:23] <usagiakumu> I had an x700 it lasted forever I loved it
[05:23] <lokomis> and it had a mouse, keyboard and Quake 3 Arena
[05:23] <lokomis> I was a PC gamer ever since
[05:23] <lokomis> :P
[05:23] <Sterist> excelsior get StartUp-Manager from the Software Center. you can set xp as the default option really easy
[05:23] <ujjain> What is the quickest way to open a path in Naucilius?
[05:23] <usagiakumu> fps are cool
[05:23] <usagiakumu> I mean but meh
[05:23] <ujjain> insane 102% cpu load btw by banshee.
[05:24] <Sterist> excelsior of course i wouldn't recommend such a clumsy OS as a default option :P but that program works very well for most of your boot loader needs
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> ujjain: excelsior: you don't edit gub.conf
[05:24] <lokomis> I've kind of outgrown them myself but I'll take a keyboard and mouse over a controller for them any day.
[05:24] <Monona> ujjain:  I'll try that next time I have to restart.  Running "ls -ltr" in the terminal will get me the information on what was happening right before the crash, then?
[05:24] <usagiakumu> oh and I need something to replace Alcohol 120%, I mean mounting ISOs, editing hex data of the ISO and advanced direct error burning
[05:24] <lokomis> I've a decent USB gamepad for all my old ROMs
[05:24] <excelsior> thanks!
[05:24] <excelsior> Sterist:
[05:24] <excelsior> thank you
[05:24] <loginix> hello
[05:24] <lokomis> Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, 1942, Battletoads, etc
[05:24] <tensorpudding> ujjain: you mean, to find a location while in nautilus?
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> ujjain: excelsior: the file is generated each time a kernel is added , so the changes will not stay. The file even tells you not to edit it.
[05:24] <usagiakumu> lokomis, is the xbox 360 controller well supported?
[05:25] <ujjain> ActionParsnip: hmm, works fine to select kernel in servers though.
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> ujjain: excelsior: if you run: sudo mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober 08_os-prober
[05:25] <usagiakumu> wired USB
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> oops
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> se
[05:25] <tensorpudding> ujjain: or to start up a new nautilus in a given path
[05:25] <ujjain> tensorpudding: Yes.
[05:25] <tensorpudding> ujjain: ctrl+l
[05:25] <Sterist> actionparsnip ujjain excelsior yes, this be true, NEVER edit the grub config file. only use terminal / trusted software
[05:25] <ujjain> new anautilius.
[05:25] <tensorpudding> oh
[05:25] <lokomis> That I'm not sure of.  I haven't tried to use the 360 controller.
[05:26] <lokomis> I use a 15'ish dollar logitech dual action usb pad
[05:26] <usagiakumu> best rom controlor I have ever used imho
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> excelsior: cd /etc/grub.d; sudo mv 30_os-prober 08_os-prober; sudo update-grub         It will stick between updates
[05:26] <excelsior> that's what I was thinking, Sterist
[05:26] <ujjain> tensorpudding: I want to easily be able to access a dir when I'm in Chrome or banshee or antyhing
[05:26] <excelsior> ActionParsnip: ?
[05:26] <usagiakumu> MS did a good job designing it
[05:26] <tensorpudding> ujjain: i just open a new nautilus window and type the path
[05:27] <usagiakumu> my gaming isnt extensive but I love my roms
[05:27] <usagiakumu> mario and sonic lol
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> excelsior: editting grub.conf is not to happen, any changes will be lost when new kernels are installed. It's even chmodded so that it isn't writable by anyone
[05:27] <usagiakumu> and the old zeldas
[05:27] <ujjain> tensorpudding: hmm, not really fast, how do I open a new nautilus window? what shortkey?
[05:27] <tensorpudding> well
[05:27] <tensorpudding> with unity, super+1 opens the first option, which for me is the home menu
[05:27] <tensorpudding> err, home folder
[05:27] <usagiakumu> now I hated Gimp on Windows... what else is there for photo editing?
[05:28] <Starminn> What would be the proper way to reformat a USB drive?
[05:28] <bullgard4> When will be deletd the files in /etc/ ?
[05:28] <bullgard4> When will be deleted the files in /etc/ ?
[05:28] <Sterist> actionparsnip it's actually easy to edit the grub config w/    sudo gedit    BUT that's not to be done by any means.
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: use gparted
[05:28] <ujjain> ah thanks, tensorpudding, that's helpful
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> Sterist: don't use sudo with gedit, it's not suitable for GUI apps. Use:  gksudo gedit
[05:29] <excelsior> I've done sudo gedit before, when faced with an uneditable file.
[05:29] <Sterist> starminn i would also recommend gparted it's really nice
[05:29] <excelsior> I don't want to mess with GRUB for sure.
[05:29] <excelsior> it's my butt if this don't work.
[05:29] <usalabs> anyone know how I can get XChat to save favorites?,,, I have some channels listed, but when I add them to favorites, then later load XChat, only 2 out of 6 channels are shown
[05:30] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: I'm looking at it in GParted now. Where are the options for reformatting? (there is no data on it currently anyway. It somehow became read-only so I figure I may as well just start over with it)
[05:30] <Sterist> excelsior try StartUp-Manager n reboot n report back :) i'm positive it will work. it's pro
[05:30] <ujjain> well, it works different on CentOS I see, CentOS grub.conf is extremely easy.
[05:30] <excelsior> Sterist: just clicked install on it.
[05:30] <ujjain> But yes, there should be GUI software that  easily allows you to change settings
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: you can only format it if it is unmounted, so it being readonly is fairly moot
[05:31] <Sterist> starminn open the box in the top right of the window and change it to your USB device. then right click the partition you wish to format / shrink
[05:31] <ujjain> anybody here using xbindkey?
[05:31] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: Sterist: Got it. Didn't realize it had to be unmounted.
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> ujjain: grub.conf may be easy but as soon as you run: update-grub   it will set it back to what it was before changes
[05:32] <usagiakumu> does Unity work in virtualbox?
[05:33] <ujjain> ActionParsnip: well, generally no need to update grub though, it's the default way for CentOS servers for sure to edit grub.conf.
[05:33] <Sterist> anyone know if theres a program that will mount an ISO (such as ubuntu installer) ? i've tried a few but they get mounted as removable media but not a CD
[05:34] <roger_> gmount
[05:34] <Starminn> usagiakumu: No special effects
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> ujjain: its part of the postinst when you install a kernel to add it to the menu
[05:34] <usagiakumu> I just want it to work I have 3d enabled
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> Sterist: mount can do it
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: sudo mkdir /media/iso; sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /media/iso
[05:35] <roger_> gmount is simple to use gui if you prefer not to use terminal
[05:35] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: ? I did it in GParted and it worked beautifully. It's writable now again.
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> acetone can also do it, the terminal is childishly simple
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: coolness
[05:36] <excelsior> Who's gonna straighten me up, when I'm leaning?
[05:36] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: You're awesome, you know that?
[05:36] <usagiakumu> man I want to use Unity without installing it straight to my hard drive yet
[05:37] <excelsior> Any important things to install for noobs when installing Ubuntu? I'm getting restricted extras now.
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: I've just been around a while :) You learn stuff over time
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: I'm sure the stuff you think is basic in windows would impress new users all the same
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> excelsior: full updates
[05:38] <excelsior> ActionParsnip: it seems to have updated while installing?
[05:38] <usagiakumu> what are some decent graphics editing apps other than gimp?
[05:39] <usagiakumu> something with a usable UI close to Photoshop doesnt need all the options
[05:39] <roger_> if you install wine, it can run adobe photoshop with ease
[05:39] <excelsior> I did attempt updates from the gui, but nothing.
[05:39] <usagiakumu> roger_, not cs5.1
[05:39] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: I've been using Ubuntu for about 9 months now, and every time I have a question nobody else can figure out/isn't willing to help, you come to the rescue. That's why you're awesome. Not just this one instance -- but nearly every tough problem I've had in the past 9 months. In fact, if nobody knows the answer, I often just give up and try to find you.
[05:40] <excelsior> I just want to get them using it. I used to do the multimedia how-to from the forum, but restricted extras seems to cover that...
[05:40] <usagiakumu> Starminn, you should get his paypal info lol
[05:40] <usagiakumu> send him a thank you note
[05:40] <excelsior> What about shockwave?
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: I just like to help, makes the community stronger. Thanks for the gratitude too. It makes a difference :)
[05:40] <Starminn> usagiakumu: Lol  if I ever get enough to donate to somebody, I probably will lol
[05:40] <ohhi>  i want a link that opens a programm in another tty which should look like xinit prog -- :1 now thats giving me a "not authorized" when i try that out of a graphik envirement, but its working when i switch to the text mode tty, so why is there a difference ?
[05:41] <dr_willis> what uses shockwave theses days?
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> excelsior: shockwave is windows only. Do people still use shockwave these days?
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: snips
[05:41] <usagiakumu> shockwave is still alive?
[05:41] <lion42> I haven't seen shockwave anything in years...
[05:41] <excelsior> cool
[05:42] <excelsior> what else?
[05:42] <excelsior> moonlight?
[05:42] <Starminn> ActionParsnip: I just feel like people don't thank you enough, and wanted to let you know that you are very appreciated, and you do in fact make a difference. Were it not for you I probably wouldn't still be using Ubuntu. Thank you. :)
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> excelsior: java and/or flash if you need them
[05:42] <excelsior> video?
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> Starminn: YAY :)
[05:42] <usagiakumu> ya know I am surprised Adobe hasnt made their entire suite for Linux
[05:42] <vibhav> Hello, I have been trying to install Ubuntu 11.04 on mt Intel mac and have had a few problems but after a few nights of searching have came up with solutions. I have now come to a blank and no matter how many pages of help I work through I cannot get Ubuntu to load from refit...
[05:42] <excelsior> yeah, ActionParsnip and the dr_willis are deserving of kudos.
[05:42] <anon_user> I am having trouble installing qt-4 designer on natty. sudo apt-get with the -f flag gives this error: http://pastebin.com/3AW01tEh
[05:42] <dr_willis> moo?
[05:43] <excelsior> seriously, what about video drivers or audio? (drums are messed up a bit on boot.)
[05:43] <usagiakumu> I mean Adobe users dont generally care what OS it is on mac or PC, they run the app full screen and forget the OS generally
[05:44] <dr_willis> adobe.sees no profit in it.
[05:44] <osse> In gnome-terminal I have checked "Use colors from system theme". Where can I find what colors those actually are?
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> itd be nice if they would
[05:45] <usagiakumu> adobe has their own corner of the market dr_willis they are so big they say what goes, if they made it for Linux I bet you 10 to 1 most would switch in a heart beat it is the only thing keeping me on Windows
[05:45] <excelsior> adblock plus, any other good plugins for firefox?
[05:45] <usagiakumu> I use 9 out of the 10 of the master suite
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> excelsior: depends what you use the web for, and how
[05:46] <dr_willis> excelsior: yes they exist
[05:46] <bullgard4> When will be deleted the files in /tmp/ ?
[05:46] <usagiakumu> if not for bringing work home with me, I would have probably done this years ago
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> usagiakumu: and games too
[05:47] <excelsior> moonlight?
[05:47] <usagiakumu> I am not a gamer
[05:47] <usagiakumu> I play roms
[05:47] <usagiakumu> if they count
[05:48] <anon_user> I am having trouble installing qt-4 designer on natty. sudo apt-get with the -f flag gives this error: http://pastebin.com/3AW01tEh. How can I fix this?
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> usagiakumu: yes but windows users are due to games devs using a lot of directx stuffs
[05:49] <Myrtti> bullgard4: at reboot
[05:49] <usagiakumu> directx vs open gl is a lot easier to make for
[05:49] <usagiakumu> but thats another argument
[05:49] <usagiakumu> I am talking adobe users
[05:49] <usagiakumu> those of us who rely heavily on adobe
[05:50] <excelsior> on my unity taskbar it says, at the top left, underneath the ubuntu logo, "Install RELEASE" with a disk graphic. What is that?
[05:51] <ohhi> the installer ?
[05:51] <bullgard4> Myrtti: Your answer is false: Yesterday I switched off my Ubuntu 11.10 laptop computer. I went to a local computer club, switched on my laptop computer and found that the file /tmp/strace.log has not been deleted.
[05:51] <dr_willis> I thing theres an age of file checked also
[05:51] <excelsior> on my unity taskbar it says, at the top left, underneath the ubuntu logo, "Install RELEASE" with a disk graphic. What is that?
[05:52] <dr_willis> or a cron job. ive ralwy worried abiut tmp
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> excelsior: is that in the installed OS?
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: drunk?
[05:54] <urlin2u> excelsior, couple of scenarios. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1781725
[05:55] <excelsior> ActionParsnip: yes, in the installed os.
[05:55] <lendsk009> exit
[05:56] <lendsk009> exit
[05:56] <lendsk009> end
[05:56] <lendsk009> shutdown
[05:56] <soreau> lendsk009: /part maybe?
[05:56] <king> ....
[05:56] <Guest53677> hello
[05:57] <soreau> hi Guest53677
[05:57] <Guest53677> my
[05:57] <Guest53677> wo  de  yingyu  hen lan
[05:57] <soreau> Guest53677: chinese?
[05:57] <Guest53677> yes
[05:57] <soreau> ! cn | Guest53677
[05:58] <Guest53677> my english  is  very  bad
[05:58] <soreau> Guest53677: Well you can ask here as long as you use english
[05:58] <ron> hi everyone. is there a way to force my box to update the dns settings from the dhcp server using the console?
[05:58] <Guest53677> ubuntu  too
[05:58] <usagiakumu> wow I like Software Center
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> excelsior: right click it and uncheck 'keep in launcher'   should be ok
[05:59] <soreau> ron: dhclient eth0?
[05:59] <usagiakumu> its like Android Market
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> usagiakumu: pretty much
[05:59] <ron> soreau: you're asking me? :)
[05:59] <soreau> ron: Alternatively, you can manually edit /etc/resolv.conf
[05:59] <usagiakumu> is there a way to use Unity in VirtualBox?
[05:59] <Guest53677> you  help  my  english and  ubuntu
[06:00] <usagiakumu> I dont need any fancy effects
[06:00] <soreau> usagiakumu: Yes, you have to enable 3D acceleration
[06:00] <usagiakumu> I did
[06:00] <usagiakumu> and I installed the additions
[06:00] <soreau> usagiakumu: What is the output of 'glxinfo|grep renderer'?
[06:00] <ron> soreau: it just seems that ever since I made a change in my router, my ubuntu box is very slow in resolving addresses, while other machines connected to it have no problem at all.
[06:00] <bullgard4> !enter | Guest53677
[06:00] <usagiakumu> soreau,
[06:00] <usagiakumu> ?
[06:00] <Guest53677> you can my
[06:00] <Guest53677> you  can my english
[06:00] <usagiakumu> output of what?
[06:00] <Guest53677> you  can my english  ???
[06:00] <soreau> ron: What is the first nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[06:01] <super_guest> hi i'm not sure about what www is for in /etc/bind
[06:01] <alter> доброе
[06:01] <bullgard4> !ru | alter
[06:01] <alter> ну де ты там
[06:01] <usagiakumu> soreau, ?
[06:01] <Guest53677> \thank you very much for everybaby.
[06:01] <ron> soreau: something's that no longer relevant. should I just delete it?
[06:01] <soreau> usagiakumu: I asked you a question..
[06:02] <usagiakumu> yes but I dont understand what you said
[06:02] <Guest53677> oh  my  god
[06:02] <ron> soreau: the other two lines below it are correct.
[06:02] <soreau> usagiakumu: I was asking what 'glxinfo|grep renderer' says (from your terminal, after installing mesa-utils package)
[06:02] <excelsior> ActionParsnip: Thanks.
[06:02] <soreau> ron: Yes, omit the irrelevant line
[06:02] <usagiakumu> soreau, lol man you are going above my head there
[06:03] <usagiakumu> what is mesa?
[06:03] <soreau> usagiakumu: Well getting unity working in vbox is probably going to be a lot harder than that
[06:03] <usagiakumu> it should work out of the box
[06:03] <excelsior> What's the recommended RAM for an Ubuntu install?
[06:03] <Guest53677> know chinese  man  ,dont  hart me
[06:03] <soreau> usagiakumu: mesa is a graphics library that provides 3D for graphics drivers
[06:03] <Guest53677> 0.0.
[06:03] <soreau> usagiakumu: Can you pastebin the output of 'unity --replace' from your terminal to pastebin.com?
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> !requirements | excelsior
[06:04] <ron> soreau: perfect. thanks for the assistance.
[06:04] <soreau> ron: No problem :-)
[06:04] <ron> have a good one! :)
[06:04] <usagiakumu> OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer?
[06:05] <Guest53677> hen  gaoxing  renshi  nimen\
[06:05] <soreau> usagiakumu: That means you do not have direct rendering working. /var/log/Xorg.0.log usually indicates why
[06:05] <Guest53677> have  chinses??
[06:05] <somsip> !zh | Guest53677
[06:05] <usagiakumu> soreau, is there a better virtual machine software that runs Ubuntu in full?
[06:06] <soreau> Not sure
[06:06] <Guest53677> simsip  you  are  chinese??
[06:06] <somsip> Guest53677: no
[06:06] <soreau> usagiakumu: vbox usually works
[06:06] <usagiakumu> but no 3d
[06:06] <usagiakumu> even though its enabled
[06:06] <Guest53677> where?
[06:06] <somsip> !zn
[06:06] <somsip> !zh
[06:06] <usagiakumu> well that was a solid waste of time
[06:07] <usagiakumu> virtualbox is useless if I cant run it properly
[06:07] <urlin2u> usagiakumu, have you tried the 2d?
[06:07] <usagiakumu> there is a 2d? how
[06:07] <usagiakumu> all I wanna do is get used to Linux
[06:07] <Guest53677> zh??
[06:08] <urlin2u> usagiakumu, I believe it is a choice in the login after you choose the user.
[06:08] <excelsior> ActionParsnip: boo, remember the drive not found error
[06:08] <excelsior> here it is again...
[06:08] <soreau> usagiakumu: Did you enable 3D in the virtual machine settings?
[06:08] <soreau> usagiakumu: You have to enable the checkbox in addition to installing.. additions
[06:08] <Guest53677> have QQ??
[06:08] <roknir> ok, i have a dumb question.  i'm trying to write a bash script, but my variable has a space in it.  i want to gzip files in that variable, but they often have spaces in the name.  what do i do to not care about all the spaces?  gzip "$i" seems to still be affected by the spaces.
[06:08] <urlin2u> usagiakumu, even if you have 3d enabled vbox is using its drivers I believe.
[06:08] <usagiakumu> obviously
[06:09] <usagiakumu> right
[06:09] <soreau> Guest53677: If you can't ask a full question, there's no point in typing random statements here
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> excelsior: sounds liek you have some faulty hardware
[06:09] <soreau> Guest53677: Try #ubuntu-cn
[06:09] <usagiakumu> well why wouldnt unity 2d just be installed by default instead of going to an entirely different desktop
[06:09] <billybigrigger_> is drupal or wordpress the defacto blog software in ubuntu?
[06:09] <Guest53677> #nbuntu-cn  e
[06:09] <urlin2u> usagiakumu, you also have a choice of the classic desktop at the login.
[06:10] <usagiakumu> that seems kinda backwards
[06:10] <soreau> Guest53677: /j #ubuntu-cn
[06:10] <usagiakumu> urlin2u, yeah I dont like classic looks nothing like my brothers laptop
[06:10] <urlin2u> usagiakumu, I am surprised your getting the unity at all in vbox.
[06:10] <usagiakumu> im not I am at the gnome thing
[06:10] <devops> Hi
[06:11] <usagiakumu> just installed unity 2d and rebooting
[06:11] <soreau> usagiakumu: If you can pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log and/or the output of 'unity --replace' from your terminal to pastebin.com, I might be able to have a look
[06:11] <devops> I am getting some errors isn dmesg. I am note sure is it due to HDD problem or some due to some other issue
[06:11] <usagiakumu> yeah unity 2d worked
[06:11] <devops> Here is the ldmesg log
[06:11] <devops> http://pastebin.com/5LvVrVpR
[06:12] <excelsior> ActionParsnip: you're probably right. but at least on my 3rd restart XP is booting up.
[06:12] <soreau> usagiakumu: But you never said whether you enabled the 3D checkbox and enough vram to the virtual card. You need at least about 64MB to do anything useful
[06:12] <usagiakumu> I did enable it
[06:12] <usagiakumu> I did say it like 3 times
[06:12] <usagiakumu> 128
[06:12] <usagiakumu> to the max
[06:12] <anon_user> I think the qt4-designer package on natty may be broken. sudo apt-get with the -f flag gives this error: http://pastebin.com/3AW01tEh. Would someone verify please.
[06:12] <excelsior> But the startup thingy didn't work to make XP default.
[06:12] <soreau> usagiakumu: Should work then. Can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to pastebin.com?
[06:12] <usagiakumu> but thats fine it works in 2d
[06:13] <excelsior> xp is running chkdsk.
[06:13] <usagiakumu> and how would I do that
[06:13] <usagiakumu> I mean I know copy and paste and all
[06:13] <soreau> ! pastebin | usagiakumu
[06:13] <usagiakumu> thanks
[06:14] <excelsior> ActionParsnip: you're probably right. but at least on my 3rd restart XP is booting up.
[06:15] <usagiakumu> pastebin.ubuntu.com/690536/
[06:15] <soreau> ! who | usagiakumu
[06:15] <usagiakumu> pastebin.ubuntu.com/690536/ soreau my apologies
[06:15] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks. How would one go about copying users from one system to another? With keeping passwords. I know how to sync the files(/home, ..)
[06:16] <soreau> usagiakumu: That's not the entire file..
[06:16] <usagiakumu> it is I promise
[06:16] <usagiakumu> select all copy paste
[06:16] <soreau> usagiakumu: Open it in a text editor with 'gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[06:17] <soreau> usagiakumu: See line 135 of that paste
[06:17] <usagiakumu> soreau, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/690536/
[06:18] <soreau> usagiakumu: Also make sure you have working 3D in your host OS
[06:18] <usagiakumu> I see they didnt install properly
[06:18] <usagiakumu> its windows 7 its working
[06:18] <usagiakumu> lol
[06:18] <soreau> usagiakumu: You can also try #vbox
[06:19] <usagiakumu> im not too worried about it
[06:19] <lokomis> blargh, that took forever
[06:19] <usagiakumu> 2d is fine
[06:19] <usagiakumu> I just wanna learn it
[06:19] <lokomis> sorry I disappeared on you
[06:19] <lokomis> inet went down
[06:19] <usagiakumu> thanks for your help though
[06:19] <soreau> np
[06:19] <usagiakumu> virtualbox is screwey with windows 98 too
[06:20] <soreau> That's not related to ubuntu at all..
[06:20] <usagiakumu> no its vbox being stupid
[06:20] <usagiakumu> I need to buy vmware
[06:21] <soreau> or realize that no one should ever run win98 in the new millennium
[06:21] <GeorgeJ> usagiakumu: kvm
[06:21] <GeorgeJ> or qemu
[06:21] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[06:21] <usagiakumu> wine comes on Ubuntu by default?
[06:21] <soreau> no
[06:21] <urlin2u> soreau, I have never run win98 but it is actually safe from viri...badware.
[06:22] <usagiakumu> soreau, then why is it in my applications ?
[06:22] <soreau> urlin2u: ok, ot
[06:22] <Snicksie> anon_user, i can install qt4-designer without problems... I have natty 64 bit... :)
[06:22] <soreau> usagiakumu: couldn't tell you
[06:22] <usagiakumu> it has winetricks and everything, could that be from virtualbox additions?
[06:23] <urlin2u> soreau, you commentated then you OT me lol.
[06:23] <anon_user> Snicksie, thank you.  I have the same: natty 64bit, but I'm getting that error
[06:23] <soreau> urlin2u: Yea, I'm a hypocrite ;)
[06:24] <urlin2u> soreau, I thought I saw you at the weekly meetings. :D
[06:24] <usagiakumu> this is gunna be cool for touch
[06:25] <soreau> urlin2u: Where are those held?
[06:25] <Perf> OMG
[06:25] <anon_user> Snicksie, strange that the package deps can't be found.  which software sources do you have enabled?
[06:25] <Perf> Are you kidding me?
[06:25] <Perf> Well fine, this ban evasion was not my fault
[06:25] <soreau> ...
[06:25] <Perf> it's yours for not blocking my IP
[06:25] <Perf> like you're suppose tooo!
[06:25] <soreau> ! ops | ... Perf
[06:26] <urlin2u> soreau, world wide everywhere every bodies a member
[06:26] <usagiakumu> what is the easiest way of taking an icon from the menu and puttiting it on the desktop?
[06:26] <soreau> urlin2u: Where are those held though?
[06:26] <usagiakumu> the sidebar is cool but it gets full quick
[06:26] <soreau> usagiakumu: You can't with unity in 11.04 afaik
[06:26] <soreau> usagiakumu: unity in 11.10 probably should be better
[06:26] <usagiakumu> I hope its added in the future :-P
[06:27] <usagiakumu> I like it this is gunna be cool on my android tablet to replace android though
[06:28] <usagiakumu> since it basically uses the same Linux kernel once I get used to this I am gunna have some fun installing it on my phone
[06:29] <Snicksie> these are my repo's anon_user http://pastebin.ws/g35eyv nothing special except for the mactel-ppa's which won't change anything with qt4-designer deps
[06:30] <usagiakumu> sweet there is a phone app
[06:30] <usagiakumu> zhone
[06:30] <usagiakumu> im gunna have fun hacking this onto a few android devices
[06:35] <{-_-}> quiet in here.
[06:35] <anon_user> Snicksie, could you run 'apt-cache showpkg libqt4-designer' in a terminal and verify that that pkg came from natty main?
[06:36] <anon_user> it's one of the deps I'm missing, and if it did, I guess I need to flush my pkg list
[06:36] <blake> yo
[06:36] <blake> can any one help me out
[06:37] <urlin2u> blake, probably give the details, :D
[06:37] <blake> i need help downloading java
[06:38] <blake> any body trying to downlod it for me using team viewer
[06:39] <urlin2u> blake, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[06:39] <blake> can u do it for me trough team viewer
[06:42] <blake> any one
[06:43] <usagiakumu> lol that was a bug but I must say I like the way it looks
[06:43] <urlin2u> blake, it is pretty unusual to get team viewer help here, just saying, can you read the wiki?
[06:43] <usagiakumu> I hope it is a persistant bug
[06:44] <blake> i did bud ths for 3 hourst i still dont know how been trying to downloa
[06:44] <blake> i been trying to for the last 3 hours still dont know how
[06:45] <usagiakumu> lol Unity 2d (at least) has a problem dimming black and white images, however the effect is really cool
[06:45] <anon_user> Snicksie, I removed all the exising versions of the deps on my system, and qt4-designer installed ok.  Thanks for taking the time to verify and patebin your sources :)the
[06:46] <REK_007> Ubuntu 10.04 LTS suddenly stopped recognizing my USB Stick . Even lsusb doesnt show it . But the Stick is getting Power as the LED lights up when connected .
[06:48] <sh00p> pull it out and put it back in again
[06:48] <sh00p> see what happens
[06:48] <usagiakumu> man that sidebar is annoying
[06:48] <usagiakumu> pops up when I dont want it to
[06:48] <usagiakumu> is there a way of setting the time higher
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> usagiakumu: could log into ubuntu classic session
[06:49] <jdm> REK_007, did you just yank the thing out without ejecting it first?
[06:49] <usagiakumu> ActionParsnip, that defeats the point of the touch interface
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> usagiakumu: unity bar is configured in ccsm
[06:49] <REK_007> jdm: nope ..
[06:49] <usagiakumu> the issue is firefox being full screen when you go to click "back"
[06:50] <usagiakumu> its actually really really annoying
[06:50] <REK_007> last time i did a dd to put an ISO on it . the USB is working on windows and boot time also jdm
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> usagiakumu: do all browsers do it?
[06:51] <usagiakumu> well the back button being on the left side and the bar on the left
[06:51] <usagiakumu> I wish I could move the bar to the right or bottom
[06:51] <usagiakumu> the right would be perfect for it since everything else is on the left
[06:52] <usagiakumu> then it wouldnt have to auto hide it could be there all the time
[06:52] <usagiakumu> I suggest as a new user from my point of view at least move it to the left
[06:52] <usagiakumu> er right
[06:52] <usagiakumu> move the bar to the right
[06:52] <usagiakumu> its in the way on the left
[06:53] <usagiakumu> there is too much going on on the left side of the screen
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> usagiakumu: could make it thinner, could help
[06:53] <urlin2u> usagiakumu, you can move the window buttons to the right in gconf-edotor
[06:53] <usagiakumu> naw I like the size
[06:53] <urlin2u> editor*
[06:53] <usagiakumu> urlin2u, that sort of defeats the purpose of symetry
[06:53] <sevith> does gftp support ssl? if no, where can i find a client that does !?
[06:54] <usagiakumu> like I get Unity I kinda like it
[06:54] <usagiakumu> but move the bar to the right side of the screen in future versions
[06:54] <sevith> graphical atleast.
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> sevith: filezilla maybe
[06:55] <usagiakumu> everything else is fine
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> sevith: nautilus can connect and mount ftp servers
[06:55] <sevith> ActionParsnip, Really? I didnt know that. how can it mount then ?
[06:55] <sevith> them *
[06:56] <REK_007> anyone can assist me ? It was reported as a bug according to one thread on the forum
[06:56] <sevith> ActionParsnip, Nice ;) I see it.
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> sevith: file -> server   or  file -> network     you get the idea. You can bookmark it too for easy access later
[06:58] <urlin2u> REK_007, just reformat in windows and see if that fixes it.
[06:58] <REK_007> urlin2u: nope it didnt ... i tried that just now .. hence came here to ask
[06:59] <urlin2u> REK_007, so it does not show in disk manager where you cam mount it?
[06:59] <urlin2u> can*
[06:59] <khanmu01> Can someone help me? I have an HP G62 laptop currently running Windows 7 Ultimate... I would really like to have the option to "dual boot" both operating systems. My questions are, can I have a dual boot and how? *pc newb*
[06:59] <REK_007> urlin2u: it doenst show anywhere ... its not there on lsusb as well ...
[06:59] <REK_007> doesn't *
[07:00] <urlin2u> REK_007, strange I would dban it if it was mine there may be some sort of firmware there causing this.
[07:00] <osse> hi, ActionParsnip! You recommended checkinstall to me a couple of days ago. I have a small problem: '/usr/bin/install: cannot change permissions of `/usr/local/share/man/man7': No such file or directory' Do you know what is causing it? I got around it by simply creating that directory, but I feel that's not completely kosher
[07:00] <khanmu01> I have Windows 7 ultimate running and would like to install ubuntu 11.04 next to it... Is it possible?
[07:01] <ParkerR> khanmu01, yes very
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> khanmu01: sure, just resize the ntfs partition in Windows and boot to your install media. Install ubuntu and the dual boot will be handled
[07:01] <REK_007> urlin2u: it was working till yesterday ... suddenly its not working anymore after i unmounted it for doing a dd of an ISO
[07:01] <urlin2u> khanmu01, probably yes most likely, http://members.iinet.net.au/~herman546/index.html
[07:02] <urlin2u> REK_007, I saw that, but 'm just saying what I would do.
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> khanmu01: ensure your backups are sufficiently up to date before starting in case of catastrophe
[07:02] <khanmu01> So I should load the ubuntu OS on to a CD or USB, when I do install it that is
[07:03] <REK_007> http://paste.ubuntu.com/690561/ this is the dmesg here its recognized .. my PD is /dev/sdd
[07:03] <khanmu01> I don't require backups, I just reinstalled Win 7 yesterday
[07:03] <urlin2u> REK_007, I had problems with a SDHC card  just used a 3rd party disc to check it like gparted and several others I have on hand.
[07:03] <REK_007> urlin2u: even gparted doesn't show it
[07:03] <somicuthbert> yap
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> khanmu01: yes boot the install media and install. Be sure to MD5 test the ISO and if you use an optical media then burn as slowly as possible
[07:04] <urlin2u> REK_007, right in the OS you can get gparted in just a ISO and partmagic and others.
[07:05] <somicuthbert> hi there
[07:05] <urlin2u> REK_007, it might need a formatting in a linux enviroment, you kinda have to get creative here.
[07:05] <somicuthbert> anybody to help me
[07:05] <khanmu01> Do you have any programs to recommend that will allow me to create a boot up disk on a USB?
[07:05] <somicuthbert> about my tv tuner card
[07:05] <urlin2u> khanmu01, unetbootin
[07:05] <REK_007> urlin2u: Gparted is installed on my OS already even that doesnt recognize it ... maybe i will format it on arch then
[07:05] <REK_007> khanmu01: use dd
[07:06] <somicuthbert> tv tuner drivers i need anyone to help me
[07:06] <urlin2u> khanmu01, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[07:06] <khanmu01> @REK_007 what do you mean by dd?
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> khanmu01: if its a fresh install, you should have left a portion of the drive unpartitioned. It means you don't have to resize.
[07:06] <urlin2u> !details | somicuthbert
[07:07] <REK_007> khanmu01: its a command on terminal , dd if=<path to ISO> of=<path of the USB>
[07:07] <kasii> i need a help of tv tuner driversss
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> khanmu01: unetbootin is great
[07:07] <urlin2u> REK_007, they have no linux install I believe
[07:07] <khanmu01> Okay, thanks so much... Will try it out
[07:07] <Snicksie> lol, i just tried to find out how many space my contents on linux used: it says 128.0 TB although I have only 1 harddisk with 320GB, splitted in some partitions for al my OSes... :p I can consider that a bug i guess? :)
[07:08] <REK_007> oh .. then unetbootin or alike
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> REK_007: dd doesnt work with ubuntu isos afaik
[07:08] <REK_007> ActionParsnip: it works ...
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> Cool
[07:08] <REK_007> ActionParsnip: I did it just last week :P after unetbootin failed in archlinux iso and mandriva iso
[07:09] <ljsoftnet> can i change the color of unity top panel?
[07:09] <REK_007> ActionParsnip: what do you use to type this fast on android irc? :P
[07:19] <metabill> anyone here having the same problem with lucid in a container? bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/722783 as well as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/632764   upon reboot I think it won't be able to ifup the network interfaces
[07:19] <bullgard4> Ihave read https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/493296 and /usr/share/doc/mountall.changelog.gz . I still do not know what configuration file determines when will Ubuntu  delete the files in /tmp/ .
[07:21] <ujjain> How do I remove leftovers from packages?
[07:21] <ujjain> rc  linux-image-2.6.38-8-generic          2.6.38-8.42                                Linux kernel image for version 2.6.38 on x86/x86_64
[07:23] <bullgard4> ujjain: What is a "leftover from a package"?
[07:24] <ujjain> bullgard4: rc.d files etc, data files that are leftover after running apt-get remove, clean, purge, it's still listed in dpkg -l
[07:24] <ujjain> sudo aptitude purge ~c
[07:25] <ujjain> found it :) that's a lot of leftovers
[07:25] <bullgard4> ujjain: I believe that there is no general algorthm to do that. Yu need your personal judgement and need to clean by hand.
[07:26] <ujjain> bullgard4: sudo aptitude purge ~c
[07:27] <kasii> ubottu
[07:28] <bullgard4> ujjain: First you said that there are files left over from purge and secondly you recommend 'sudo aptitude purge ~c'. You are contradicting yourself.
[07:28] <ujjain> bullgard4: sudo apt-get purge does not remove the files that purge ~c removes.
[07:28] <kasii> ubottu are you there
[07:28] <ujjain> sudo apt-get purge still leaves leftovers.
[07:29] <kasii> so
[07:29] <kasii> we can proceed
[07:29] <kasii> ubottu am run ubuntu 11.04
[07:29] <kasii> so
[07:29] <kasii> can u help me
[07:30] <bullgard4> ujjain: I agree with you that "sudo apt-get purge does not remove the files that purge ~c removes".
[07:30] <daggs1> hello all, is there a ubuntu version which natively supports multiseat?
[07:30] <wh> hi guyd
[07:31] <wh> hi guys^m^
[07:34] <Pathos> Hello. I am looking for a ubuntu distribution for EEEPC. It must be lightweight and not too taxing on resources.
[07:34] <iceroot> Pathos: lubuntu
[07:34] <iceroot> Pathos: running fine on eeepc 901
[07:34] <vibhav> Pathos EasyPeasy
[07:36] <ohzie> Pathos: the ubuntu netbook remix is going to be the one that is best supported.
[07:36] <iceroot> ohzie: not true
[07:36] <ohzie> Pathos: I've heard Easypeasy is easier on resources but I can't really support that opinion.
[07:37] <iceroot> ohzie: netbook remix is no longer supported in newer versions
[07:37] <ohzie> iceroot: I didn't think the ubuntu channel would help people with ubuntu 'based' OSs
[07:37] <ohzie> iceroot: My mistake!
[07:37] <iceroot> ohzie: lubuntu is official supported
[07:37] <ohzie> Pathos: Easypeasy or lubuntu then, IMO. I prefer Easypeasy's interface, though.
[07:37] <ohzie> iceroot: oh my
[07:38] <iceroot> ohzie: its the normal ubuntu without unity but with lxde
[07:38] <lololol> Hello, what's better, a VPN connection to my home, and then remote desktop? Or directly remote desktop to my home?
[07:38] <ohzie> iceroot: I have the, uh, I think it's 10.04 netbook remix? On an acer aspire
[07:38] <ohzie> lololol: vpn
[07:39] <iceroot> ohzie: correct, the last version with netbook-remix
[07:39] <lololol> ohzie: whY?
[07:39] <iceroot> lololol: remote-desktop is not encrypted if i am correct
[07:39] <lololol> Hmm
[07:39] <ohzie> lololol: Because the idea of exposing VNC or microsoft's RDP protocol to the internet directly makes me vomit
[07:39] <Pathos> yes i have a 900 model
[07:39] <ohzie> lololol: and it should make you vomit too
[07:39] <lololol> Can you give me tips on how I have to setup this setup?
[07:39] <Pathos> do they boot from usb?
[07:40] <iceroot> Pathos: yes
[07:40] <wildbat> lololol: i will said ssh tunnel and remote-desktop easilest yet secure .
[07:40] <ohzie> lololol: Personally I don't use vpn at home, only at work. When I go into my home computer I SSH in and map port redirects. It's very simple to set up ssh tunnels with a little app called 'gstm'
[07:40] <ohzie> lololol: sudo aptitude install gstm
[07:41] <ohzie> lololol: If I had to use my home machines more from work, I'd probably use openvpn
[07:41] <iceroot> ohzie: aptitude is no longer installed by default, so use apt-get on newer versions
[07:41] <ohzie> but because my use is limited to a few times a week, I find ssh tunnels to be more convenient
[07:41] <lololol> I have windows pc at school, and I want to use remote desktop to control my home pc (ubuntu)
[07:41] <ohzie> iceroot: Weird
[07:41] <ohzie> lololol: Oh,
[07:41] <ohzie> lololol: Well.
[07:41] <iceroot> lololol: you mean rdesktop? or do you mean vnc? rdesktop = terminal server
[07:42] <lololol> I dont know
[07:42] <ohzie> lololol: http://oldsite.precedence.co.uk/nc/putty.html and then VNC into your ubuntu machine.
[07:42] <lololol> I just want to control my desktop so I have the files i'm working on always with me
[07:42] <ohzie> lololol: that is what I would do
[07:42] <iceroot> lololol: then you want vnc or ssh
[07:42] <ohzie> lololol: OR you could totally use nomachine
[07:42] <lololol> Yes, but how to setup the VPN part?
[07:42] <iceroot> lololol: rdesktop is something different
[07:42] <ohzie> lololol: that's the link I sent you
[07:43] <iceroot> !vpn | lololol
[07:43] <wildbat> lololol: if you just need files ~ just ssh  will be fine ~ sshfs for win >> http://dokan-dev.net/en/download/
[07:44] <Snicksie> lololol, another possibility is teamviewer... I've used it to control my desktop from school and it works fine for me :)
[07:44] <lololol> Snicksie: I dont want a 3th party company viewing my screen
[07:45] <lololol> I have to install Dokan right? wildbat
[07:45] <jason_enns> hi im trying to boot ubuntu but grub says my system32 folder is causing an error 17 - we moved it to the mbr after someone on stickam told me to
[07:45] <Snicksie> in that case you need vnc or stuff like that. Most likely you need to do extra configuration with your router, you'll probably need to open an extra port for that...
[07:45] <ohzie> jason_enns: don't use stickam for tech support ever
[07:45] <wildbat> lololol: that's correct.
[07:46] <lololol> wildbat: no permissions to install
[07:46] <jason_enns> ohzie: why not?
[07:46] <wildbat> lololol: winscp  then ~ you can't use the files as if mounted thou ~.
[07:47] <jason_enns> fuck the whole lot o yous
[07:47] <rek> hi
[07:47] <ohzie> I can't help but feel mildly amused by that exchange. :|
[07:47] <lololol> jason_enns used ragequit
[07:47] <ohzie> lololol: it was super effective!
[07:47] <lololol> his ragequit?
[07:47] <lololol> :P
[07:48] <ohzie> lololol: It was a bad joke
[07:48] <lololol> I just need a system where I can use Ubuntu at school.
[07:49] <rek> can i use dhcp for dyn dns with 11.04 ? i remember there was a package in 10.04 .....
[07:49] <lololol> I just need a system where I can use Ubuntu at school, without having to transfer the files every time over USB. I thought VPN connection & vnc is a good way to do this.
[07:50] <rek> lololol set up a ftp server in your home lol
[07:50] <iceroot> lololol: can you nstall a vpn client at school?
[07:50] <ohzie> lololol: I'm officially suggesting NOMX
[07:50] <iceroot> lololol: + vnc client
[07:50] <ohzie> !nomx
[07:50] <ohzie> !nomachine
[07:50] <ohzie> !freenx
[07:50] <ohzie> HA
[07:50] <lololol> iceroot: can't install
[07:50] <ohzie> lololol: That
[07:50] <ohzie> lololol: oh you can't install anything on the windows machine?
[07:50] <wildbat> lololol: ssh have SfTP subsystem ~ that's all you need.
[07:50] <lololol> nope, I dont have permissions for it ohzie
[07:51] <lololol> the system administrator recommended me VPN
[07:51] <lololol> wildbat: what do you mean?
[07:51] <ohzie> lololol: what is already installed? Do you have putty or winscp or filezilla?
[07:51] <ohzie> lololol: or even coffeecupftp?
[07:51] <lololol> Putty and Filezilla do work portable
[07:51] <rek> hei
[07:51] <ohzie> lololol: there you go, you can use putty to create an ssh tunnel
[07:52] <ohzie> lololol: the ssh tunnel will allow you the use of VNC
[07:52] <lololol> Hmm
[07:52] <lololol> How then?
[07:52] <wildbat> !VNC | lololol
[07:52] <rek> noone listen to me
[07:52] <ohzie> lololol: That was the link I sent you previously.
[07:52] <lololol> Ah
[07:52] <ohzie> lololol: specifically the one labeled "using putty to create a windows ssh tunnel in ten minutes or less"
[07:52] <wildbat> rek : ftp is history ~ why FTP where you have SFTP with SSH ??
[07:53] <rek> it'scool
[07:53] <ohzie> wildbat: I've still found uses for ftpes from time to time
[07:53] <lololol> Can I assign a subdomain to my home ip?
[07:54] <ohzie> lololol: I'd recommend dyndns
[07:54] <wildbat> ohzie: insecure :)
[07:54] <ohzie> wildbat: FTP over explicit ssl?
[07:54] <ohzie> wildbat: I don't know if I'd use the word insecure to describe it.
[07:54] <lololol> ohzie: as far as i know they can view all traffic
[07:55] <rek> the answer was ddclient....
[07:55] <wildbat> ohzie: :) peace.~
[07:55] <ohzie> lololol: I haven't yet heard of an ISP that blocked SSH or dyndns
[07:55] <lololol> ohzie: no, i mean dyndns
[07:56] <ohzie> lololol: I don't understand, restate your concern
[07:56] <lololol> I want something easy to connect to. So that I can map my home ip to a subdomain of my domain.
[07:56] <ohzie> lololol: oh, let me get this straight: Your concern is that if you use dyndns they will see your traffic?
[07:57] <lololol> Yes
[07:57] <ohzie> lololol: Dyndns will not see your traffic. Your home ISP and your school will see your traffic. It will look like normal encrypted ssh traffic.
[07:58] <lololol> So my school will see my traffic, my school's ISP, my home's ISP and my home?
[07:58] <ohzie> lololol: your school and your isp do not have the computing power necessary to read your traffic
[07:58] <ohzie> lololol: they will see ssh data
[07:58] <ohzie> all encrypted
[07:58] <lololol> Isn't when you lead it to dyndns slower?
[07:58] <ohzie> lololol: they won't see what the tunnel is transporting, only that there is a tunnel
[07:58] <ohzie> lololol: no
[07:59] <ohzie> lololol: dyndns is merely a way of pointing at a thing, it does not affect that thing.
[07:59] <king> i am back
[08:00] <Guest76459> ....
[08:00] <lololol> But can I use a subdomain to my home domain?
[08:00] <ohzie> lololol: if you have a static ip address, yes
[08:00] <lololol> Changes each year
[08:00] <lololol> How? :P
[08:00] <ohzie> lololol: For simplicity, I would suggest dyndns. That is just me. When it comes down to it, it doesn't matter what you use for dns.
[08:01] <wildbat> lololol: that's won't be working ~ unless you have a public NS ~ point to your home.
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> Won't the dydns be updated using a client?
[08:01] <ohzie> ActionParsnip: Yes, that's why I've suggest dyndns to him
[08:01] <lololol> "For example, to access the NetManager's web pages you would enter 'localhost:80'"
[08:01] <ohzie> ActionParsnip: It's pretty much the best thing ever when it comes to not having to remember your home ip address every time it changes.
[08:01] <wildbat> Guest76459: welcome back .... XD
[08:01] <lololol> Ehm, I want to let the traffic go over port 80 or port 443/433, is this possible?
[08:02] <somicuthbert>  anybody to hep me drivers for tv tuner USB
[08:02]  * ActionParsnip uses no-ip.com with noip2 client on his server
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> ohzie: ^
[08:02] <somicuthbert> hi alll
[08:02] <ohzie> ActionParsnip: I think no-ip is the best dyndns out there at the moment
[08:02] <somicuthbert> i need a help
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> ohzie: does the job ;-)
[08:02] <somicuthbert> for tv tuner drivers
[08:03] <somicuthbert> tv tuner drivers
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> somicuthbert: wassup?
[08:03] <somicuthbert> fine
[08:03] <somicuthbert> how do you do?
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> somicuthbert: tired. You?
[08:03] <ohzie> somicuthbert: the best way I've found of locating drivers is googling "ubuntu driver modelname of thing"
[08:03] <somicuthbert> for what
[08:03] <lololol> ohzie: the link you send me, is about the client or the server?
[08:04] <ohzie> lololol: the client, the server is easy to setup
[08:04] <ohzie> !ssh | lololol
[08:04] <somicuthbert> made you tired
[08:04] <ohzie> lololol: Enable ssh on your home computer, make sure it's accessible from the outside but locked down correctly.
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> somicuthbert: what do you need to know of tuners?
[08:04] <en1ggy> poop
[08:04] <ohzie> lololol: disable root on ssh, use a reasonable password, simple stuff
[08:05] <somicuthbert> driver actionparsnip
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> somicuthbert: 12 hour shifts make you tired
[08:05] <ohzie> ActionParsnip: goodluck, I'm going to sleep!
[08:05] <wildbat> ohize root don't have password by default :>
[08:05] <ksx4system> I have installed "Samba" with default gui using software manager. Why it didn't even started and there's no /etc/init.d/samba script?
[08:05] <ksx4system> it's 11.04, amd64 platform
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> somicuthbert: ok how does the device connect to your system?
[08:05] <ohzie> wildbat: Sometimes people who don't know any better passwd root.
[08:05] <lololol> So for the client (school) I have to use this guide: http://oldsite.precedence.co.uk/nc/putty.html           but what do i have to do on the server (at home) ohzie ?
[08:05] <ohzie> wildbat: Always expect people to do something stupid
[08:05] <somicuthbert> through usb
[08:06] <ohzie> *especially* in tech support.
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> ksx4system: sudo service smbd start
[08:06] <somicuthbert> USB
[08:07] <somicuthbert> actionparsnip is through USB
[08:07] <wildbat> lololol: ~read~ the links~ you have asked too much but yet read nothing we have given to you .
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> somicuthbert: ok, run: lsusb    one line will identify the chip
[08:07] <en1ggy> damnit
[08:07] <somicuthbert> HOW CAUSE AM NEW IN UBUNTU
[08:07] <ksx4system> ActionParsnip: "start: Job is already running: smbd" but I still can't connect from winshit xp thing
[08:08] <__MAX> stop windows firewall and check
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> somicuthbert: copy from the 8 character hex id to the end of the line and use websearches to find guides using the text
[08:08] <ksx4system> __MAX: there's no firewall since I run hardware one between the Internet and my LAN
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> ksx4system: then its running...
[08:09] <lololol> wildbat: i read the links, but i dont understand them all
[08:09] <ksx4system> ActionParsnip: but winshit keeps asking for user/password (it ignores correct ones)
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> somicuthbert: its a terminal command. You can launch one from dash
[08:09] <ksx4system> it used to work flawlessly on openSUSE, I can't make it work on Ubuntu :(
[08:10] <somicuthbert> it is written  S/N: V 00049263
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> ksx4system: run: sudo smbpasswd -a $USER
[08:10] <__MAX> ad ur username and password to smb user profile
[08:10] <somicuthbert> OKAY I HAVE A TERMINAL
[08:10] <ohzie> ksx4system: Samba has global and per-share security settings. Make sure they're not over-riding each other.
[08:10] <__MAX> windows user to SMB user profile
[08:10] <wildbat> lololol: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html , just one command you are SET for ssh access.
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> ksx4system: you can now authenticate as $USER with the pass you set
[08:11] <ksx4system> ActionParsnip: thanks, it works :)
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> somicuthbert: kill the caps please. Its really unnecessary
[08:11] <somicuthbert> do you  get the number actionparsnip
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> ksx4system: np man
[08:12] <somicuthbert> okay ready
[08:12] <somicuthbert> kill the caps
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> somicuthbert: that's not an ID. Run:  lsusb   and use the ID
[08:13] <somicuthbert> i have type the lsusb and give me the page
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> somicuthbert: copy the line and use it in a websearch
[08:15] <somicuthbert> may be  i can show you  via paste bin how it look like
[08:15] <somicuthbert> i mean the page
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> Sure
[08:16] <lololol> Ok, to make it clear:                               For the client (school) I have to use this guide: http://oldsite.precedence.co.uk/nc/putty.html           and at the server (at home) this: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html
[08:16] <somicuthbert> actionparsnip do yo get me
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> Can you also add the output of: lsb_release -a
[08:17] <somicuthbert> you me to type that command to the terminal
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> somicuthbert: make a pastebin of both outputs and paste the link here
[08:17] <somicuthbert> that lsb_release-a
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Sonderblade: yes, that and:  lsusb
[08:17] <lololol> ohzie: ^
[08:18] <ohzie> lololol: what
[08:18] <lololol> ohzie: Ok, to make it clear:                               For the client (school) I have to use this guide: http://oldsite.precedence.co.uk/nc/putty.html           and at the server (at home) this: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html
[08:18] <ohzie> lololol: When you don't tag my name in a post, I will not see it unless I'm watching the channel
[08:18] <ohzie> lololol: yes
[08:18] <lololol> :)
[08:18] <ohzie> lololol: you have to do three things
[08:18] <lololol> Thanks
[08:18] <lololol> ohzie: 1) Setup the client (putty),                     2) setup the openssh server at my home                      3) ??
[08:18] <vlt> Hello. What tool can I use to "rsync" two large block devices. Is there something that works by comparing hashes definable sized blocks?
[08:19] <ohzie> lololol: 1)Enable ssh. 2)Learn how to create a tunnel with putty. 3)Learn how to connect to your server with vnc through that tunnel.
[08:19] <somicuthbert> actionparsnip  am asking that lsusb_release-a is it a command
[08:19] <somicuthbert> to be type to the  terminal
[08:19] <lololol> ohzie: when you connect to ubuntu server with putty to administrate, part 1 and 2 are done, right?
[08:20] <ohzie> vlt: rsync will compare blocks of the data, but I don't think any application will compare filesystem chunks with that algorithm.
[08:20] <ohzie> vlt: One simple move could jack up the entire filesystem, it would be inefficient and scary
[08:20] <ohzie> vlt: I'm not trying to be insulting, just explain why it probably doesn't exist
[08:20] <ohzie> lololol: No
[08:20] <ohzie> lololol: simply connecting will not grant you an ssh tunnel
[08:21] <ohzie> lololol: for that you must use putty to create a tunnel, not merely open an ssh connection
[08:21] <wildbat> lololol: VNC for the desktop screen. for file transfer you want like firezillia or other SFTP client.
[08:21] <Clerisy> how do i password protect my hardrive so that you need to enter a password to view it, every time?
[08:21] <ohzie> Clerisy: Truecrypt.
[08:21] <ohzie> Clerisy: Truecrypt is bestcrypt.
[08:22] <Clerisy> one moment ohzie
[08:22] <lololol> wildbat: i maybe dont need file transer
[08:22] <jussi> !encrypt
[08:23] <sh00p> i recommend cryptsetup
[08:23] <dexter_> I need to watch digital tv both in the dvb/t and atsc formats. Does the compatibility depend of the TV card I use or the media player I choose?
[08:23] <somicuthbert> actionparsnip take the link for paste bin to see how the command lsusb output
[08:23] <somicuthbert> http://pastebin.com/u5x6WG8Jhttp://pastebin.com/u5x6WG8J
[08:23] <lololol> ohzie: how to setup the VNC part?
[08:23] <sh00p> preferrably with dm-crypt on bootup
[08:23] <ohzie> lololol: brb pants
[08:23] <mak-karpov> Hi
[08:24] <ecstoian> I need some help with running Eclipse on Ubuntu 11.04 -- I am trying to create a new Java project using the menu, but after I click the finish button nothing happens, no file appears for editing, nothing. How can I fix this ?
[08:24] <sh00p> try this: sudo apt-get install default-jre
[08:27] <ecstoian> sh00p: I have tried installing that package with aptitude. This is what I get: "No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed."
[08:27] <ohzie> lololol: Okay so basically, the tunnel will make is so that you point vnc at your local machine, at school, and putty will forward it through the tunnel, out of your server, at home, and to whatever machine you're connecting to.
[08:27] <sh00p> if you have the jre installed, you should be fine
[08:27] <ohzie> ecstoian: that indicates the package is already installed or doesn't exist
[08:27] <ohzie> ecstoian: most likely the first option
[08:28] <sh00p> did you install eclipse through apt or their package?
[08:28] <ecstoian> ohzie: yeah, I have an A in front of it.
[08:28] <ecstoian> sh00p: aptitude
[08:28] <sh00p> screw that, download form their site instead
[08:28] <lololol> ohzie: Ah, so on the server: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html            and OpenVNC server.                        On the client: http://oldsite.precedence.co.uk/nc/putty.html
[08:29] <ohzie> lololol: We can point you in the right direction, but from now on you're really just going to have to read until you understand it.
[08:29] <vlt> ohzie: What file system? I want to sync two block devices?
[08:29] <ecstoian> sh00p: oh well, that doesn't appear very elegant to me
[08:30] <sh00p> well, its your funeral
[08:32] <king_> hi
[08:34] <ujjain> what is a default vga driver for X/ubuntu?
[08:34] <ujjain> my computer does not boot graphically, weird screen, non-responsive
[08:35] <king_> i am  chinese
[08:35] <king_> my  english  not
[08:35] <sh00p> sour bout that communist regime?
[08:36] <szal> !cn | king_
[08:36] <lololol> king_: i am dutch
[08:36] <ikonia> sh00p: stop that sort of thing
[08:37] <sh00p> ok sorry
[08:37] <king_> .....
[08:37] <king_> dutch
[08:37] <king_> far  from  here
[08:38] <xro> Hi, i run ubuntu 64bits 10.10... I think about upgrade it to 11.04 but i would like to keep Gnome --> use gnome 3... is gnome 3 install with the upgrade? is it buggy?
[08:38]  * szal doesn't see what it matters what nationality ppl are in here
[08:38] <xro> in fact what do you think?
[08:38] <wildbat> !gnome3 | xro
[08:38] <szal> xro: Gnome 2 is still present in 11.04
[08:38] <king_> i  go  #ubuntu-cn     bye  bye
[08:39] <xro> So, Ubuntu will support gnome 3 in the futur?
[08:39] <ikonia> xro: gnome3 comes in on 11.10 - however it will not use gnome 3 shell, it will use the unity shell
[08:40] <xro> ikonia, i think that will be a source a bug, no?
[08:40] <ikonia> xro: pardon ?
[08:41] <super_guest> i'm using ubuntu server on a machine that is acting as a gateway, and other machines on the network can access the outside;  however, when ssh'd in, i cannot reach the outside.  anybody know what is wrong?
[08:41] <ikonia> super_guest: can you give us an example of the issue, eg: what are you trying to do that's failing
[08:41] <xro> ikonia, having gnome 3 and unity shell... Do you think that will work? (i mean without any bugs)
[08:42] <super_guest> ikonia: accessing the internet from the gateway
[08:42] <super_guest> specifically from the gateway; other machines on my network can call out successfully
[08:42] <ikonia> xro: it does work, the level of bugs on it will be known at release time
[08:42] <ikonia> super_guest: define accesing the internet, what are you doing that you call accessing the internet from the gateway
[08:43] <super_guest> lets say
[08:43] <super_guest> pinging google
[08:43] <xro> ikonia, ok, i'll wait the 11.10 to upgrade... i don't really like unity.. thanks for your time
[08:43] <ikonia> super_guest: ok, so show me the command you use to do that
[08:43] <ikonia> xro: unity will be in 11.10
[08:43] <super_guest> ping google.com
[08:43] <ikonia> xro: if you use 11.10 you will be using unity
[08:43] <ikonia> super_guest: and what is the error you get back
[08:44] <super_guest> there is no error
[08:44] <super_guest> it simply times out
[08:44] <ikonia> super_guest: that's the error then, request timed out
[08:44] <ikonia> super_guest: (I assume that's what you're getting on screen) ?
[08:44] <super_guest> sure
[08:45] <ikonia> super_guest: ok, so if you do "nslookup google.com" do you get a response ?
[08:46] <super_guest> it's ok, ikonia, i fixed it myself
[08:46] <ikonia> ok
[08:48] <ecstoian> sh00p: I have tried installing Eclipse 3.7 from its official site, but I still face the same issue as with the one I installed using aptitude.
[08:49] <treffer> padevchooser was removed from oneiric. What's now the preferred way to stream to a remote pulseaudio server?
[08:50] <treffer> and especially: how should I configure it... It's kinda sad... padevchooser just showed nice popups and let me switch within seconds...
[08:51] <hantu> test
[08:51] <bazhang> treffer, #ubuntu+1 for oneiric please
[08:51] <treffer> bazhang: thx, didn't know that :-)
[08:52] <hantu> ls
[08:53] <ecstoian> Does anyone here know if there is any need to install other packages with aptitude besides the "eclipse" package in order to be able to use it properly for java programming ?
[08:54] <ikonia> ecstoian: eclipse is the ide, it will pull in anything it depends on to wkr
[08:54] <ikonia> work
[08:55] <sh00p> ecstoian, http://pastebin.com/3aGJKKfY
[08:55] <ecstoian> ikonia: I see; I just don't understand why it refuses to create a project for me, after I press the Finish button in the New Java Project wizard. Have you got any idea ?
[08:55] <sh00p> this is how i usually do it
[08:55] <ikonia> ecstoian: is it erroring ?
[08:55] <sh00p> its a foul paste from one of our wikis
[08:56] <sh00p> but you'll be able to parse it
[08:56] <ikonia> ecstoian: I'd suggest using the packages in the repos rather than what sh00p is suggesting
[08:56] <ikonia> ecstoian: that way you keep ubuntu supported packages and base components in check
[08:57] <ecstoian> ikonia: no, I don't get any erros, it just doesn't create anything besides the empty src and bin directories
[08:58] <ecstoian> sh00p: thank you, I followed similar steps
[08:58] <JohnyMnemnic> hi, i need help, i'll pay 4 it with PayPal.
[08:58] <ikonia> ecstoian: suggests to me you're just not using it right
[08:58] <ikonia> JohnyMnemnic: just explain the problem and we'll help if we can, you don't need to pay
[09:01] <ecstoian> ikonia: are you using Eclipse also ?
[09:02] <ikonia> ecstoian: no.
[09:02] <ecstoian> ikonia: okay
[09:02] <JohnyMnemnic> sorry, but i think that must sm1 check it itself. Ive got a tunnel that connects irc client with java webchat. Tunnel is in Perl. I cant get it 2 work.
[09:03] <ikonia> JohnyMnemnic: I have no idea what you've just asked, could you try again to explain the issue
[09:04] <Galerien> Hi everyone, I installed the beta ubuntu 11.10 and I have a problem with the terminal, it doesn't appear when I launch it... It's like a completely transparent window. I can tip on it, click and stuff, but I can't see anything except for the mac-like bare unity is using for everything now on the top left corner... can someone help me ?
[09:04] <ikonia> Galerien: 11.10 discussion is in the channel #ubuntu+!
[09:04] <ikonia> #ubuntu+1 sorry
[09:05] <Galerien> ikonia: ok thanks
[09:06] <ecstoian> sh00p: I downloaded the Eclipse Classic. Should have downloaded the Eclipse IDE for Java Developers instead ?
[09:06] <sh00p> it shouldnt really matter
[09:06] <JohnyMnemnic> i have a Perl 'script' that doesn't work. Itself its OK. Looks like Perl dependencies or something like this are f*cked up.
[09:07] <sh00p> but yeah, why not, gonna save you some time if youre gonna code java
[09:07] <bazhang> JohnyMnemnic, no cursing here
[09:07] <ikonia> JohnyMnemnic: where did you get the perl script ?
[09:07] <ecstoian> sh00p: I'm thinking of using vim instead :-)
[09:07] <dik> http://i.imgur.com/1XoDF.jpg
[09:08] <sh00p> vim's amazing autocompletion renders eclipse useless
[09:08] <sh00p> all gurus knows this
[09:08] <ecstoian> autocompletion ? :))
[09:08] <JohnyMnemnic> ive bought it
[09:08] <bazhang> dik, dont spam here
[09:09] <hrw> hi
[09:09] <sh00p> yeah i was joking :D
[09:09] <hrw> what do people use on ubuntu to make media center?
[09:09] <sh00p> xbmc
[09:11] <hrw> sh00p: xmbc is not in archive
[09:11] <hrw> at least 'apt-cache search xmbc' does not return anything
[09:11] <paul_> hello
[09:11] <sh00p> download it manually
[09:11] <sh00p> its the best thing since sliced bread
[09:12] <geirha> hrw: MythTV I suppose, there's even a Mythbuntu
[09:12] <paul_> i just installed xchat and totally new.  i feel lost as what to do or how to use it.
[09:12] <bazhang> paul_, whats the issue; also there is #xchat
[09:12] <hrw> geirha: mythtv is more for dvb and for that I already have PVR
[09:13] <antonio_> hi
[09:13] <paul_> i don't have any issues yet.  just saying i'm new.  though i do have a general question, is there a panel for list of users in chatroom?
[09:13] <Melior> Anyone know why when creating rar that it include the whole directory like /home/$user/.../ and not only the directory i specify
[09:13] <antonio_> amule suport spanish?
[09:13] <antonio_> in ubuntu-es no support me
[09:14] <geirha> Melior: Provide it the relative path instead of an absolute path, using cd first to get to the parent dir.
[09:14] <antonio_> ¿?
[09:14] <paul_> is there an australia ubuntu chatroom?
[09:15] <Melior> geirha: Yes that is a solution, but then the rar is creating in the wrong directory
[09:15] <bazhang> paul_, #ubuntu-au ?
[09:15] <Melior> .      -ep    Exclude paths from names.
[09:15] <Melior> .       -ep1   Exclude base dir from names.
[09:15] <Melior> .       -ep2   Expand paths to full. Store full file paths (except a drive let-
[09:15] <Melior>               ter and leading path separator) when archiving.
[09:15] <FloodBot1> Melior: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:15] <Melior> could one of these be used?
[09:15] <paul_> ok.. how do i switch to that channel?  i'm using xchat.
[09:15] <geirha> Melior: The rar file doesn't have to be in the same dir
[09:15] <bazhang> paul_, /join #channelname
[09:16] <paul_> ah.. ty.
[09:16] <antonio_> need help please
[09:16] <bazhang> paul_, or right click ---->   #ubuntu-au
[09:16] <Melior> geirha: i don't see where the argument for location of rar is?
[09:16] <antonio_> need support for amule in ubuntu
[09:16] <ecstoian> sh00p: do you know of any other good IDE/editor for Java on Linux, besides NetBeans ?
[09:16] <bazhang> antonio_, support with amule for what
[09:16] <geirha> Melior: Instead of foo.rar, /some/path/foo.rar
[09:17] <Melior> geirha: ah thx
[09:17] <sh00p> not really ecstoian, eclipse is just too awesome to use anything else
[09:17] <antonio_> problems for fireguard
[09:17] <ecstoian> sh00p: O, how I wish it worked !
[09:17] <alwaleed> hi
[09:17] <bazhang> antonio_, what is fireguard
[09:17] <sh00p> ecstoian, have you purged the installation you made from apt?
[09:18] <alwaleed> any one need chating ?
[09:18] <antonio_> which is not
[09:18] <ecstoian> sh00p: I used the software manager to remove it
[09:18] <sh00p> maybe you dont have rw rights in the directory where eclipse wants to put its project files
[09:18] <geirha> ecstoian: I've tried netbeans and eclipse for java-development, but I always fall back to vim.
[09:18] <bazhang> alwaleed, this is ubuntu support
[09:18] <sh00p> try running it as root
[09:18] <antonio_> I have the yellow arrows and getting behind the firewall
[09:18] <alwaleed> plz i want the best player openning hd movie
[09:19] <antonio_> vlc player
[09:19] <bazhang> antonio_, try the amule support forums I suppose, or their documents
[09:19] <freakynl> Hi, I just installed 11.04 on crappy old hardware and checked auto-login... Unfortunately the GUI is too borked to change anything at all... Anyone have instructions on changing the session to classic (by default) from cli?
[09:19] <bazhang> alwaleed, no best, try them and decide
[09:19] <bazhang> !players | alwaleed
[09:19] <alwaleed> its not good for big files :)
[09:20] <antonio_> I and my language searched google and found nothing, not
[09:20] <M1N1Me> hi, howdo I make irssi always log to a log file, for all windows into a date labeled filename ?
[09:20] <antonio_> thanks for all ire to the page of amule
[09:21] <bazhang> alwaleed, try some others then like mplayer
[09:22] <JohnyMnemnic> ikonia: ive got it from pay site.
[09:22] <geirha> M1N1Me: I'd ask that in #irssi
[09:25] <ecstoian> sh00p: when I try to open a class with Project Explorer, the Project Explorer just closes and nothing happens -- this happens both in the Ubuntu Eclipse, as in the one from eclipse.org
[09:25] <M1N1Me> ok, Thanks =)
[09:26] <freakynl> Nobody on changing session to classic from cli (can't do it from the gui, since it auto logs on, can't log off... and the gui tools aren't visible either)
[09:26] <ecstoian> sh00p: I tried running the Ubuntu Eclipse with root, same issue.
[09:26] <ecstoian> it is really weird
[09:27] <metabill> ecstoian: don't open classes, open projects :)
[09:28] <sh00p> ecolitan, weird indeed, i dont know how to help you tbh
[09:28] <sh00p> do as metabill says
[09:28] <yetone> hellp
[09:28] <yetone> hello
[09:30] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/37131/how-to-make-gnome-classic-the-default-desktop-using-command-line-tools freakynl
[09:30] <ecstoian> metabill: but I cannot create any project. It just creates its src and bin directories, and that's all it does.
[09:30] <metabill> ecstoian: that's all there should be in a new project, right?
[09:31] <freakynl> bazhang: thanks :)
[09:33] <guest1987> hi all Q). i just did a fresh 10.04.3 Ubuntu installation and after applying updates and reboot'ing i am unable to login, any clues?
[09:34] <guest1987> username and password are correct but the login manager does'nt display a desktop just its self again ?
[09:35] <guest1987> the install is a dual boot with xp and installed into one partition sda2 with no swap and an ext2 filesystem
[09:35] <geirha> guest1987: Hard to say. On the login screen choose the fail-safe session.
[09:36] <guest1987> geirha, How ?
[09:38] <hroi> hi
[09:38] <hroi> Im a little unhappy with hom much space apt takes unde /var/cache/apt
[09:38] <hroi> Im wondering if I can have apt run more economically on space
[09:39] <jpds> hroi: Then, tweak /etc/cron.daily/apt ?
[09:39] <hroi> jpds: ah, ok...
[09:39] <frozenthrone> hello everybody! i'm having troubles with booting ubuntu from a usb drive on my macbook. is there anybody who can help me?
[09:39] <geirha> guest1987: Once you've selected/written your username, some options should appear at the bottom
[09:40] <jpds> hroi: And /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20archive
[09:40] <guest1987> geirha, for lang not session, ?
[09:41] <hroi> jpds: ok, ehm presumably I need to run /etc/cron.daily/apt more often than daily?
[09:41] <jpds> hroi: Actually, don't change the cron script, just change the variable in apt.conf.d as the header suggests.
[09:41] <hroi> however, i cant think how apt can be doing anything when and taking up more space, when I am not running it daily
[09:41] <geirha> guest1987: Hm. Odd. I get options for language, keyboard and session.
[09:41] <hroi> jpds: ok,
[09:42] <hroi> jpds: what are the disadvantages to doing this?
[09:42] <jpds> hroi: None that I can think of?
[09:43] <bazhang> http://superuser.com/questions/137638/how-can-i-boot-ubuntu-10-04-on-my-macbook-pro-from-a-usb-hard-drive frozenthrone this?
[09:44] <jpds> hroi: If you just want to purge the packages, do: sudo apt-get clean.
[09:44] <guest1987> geirha, im in under a VT [alt+fN] so account works, and a dmesg show a message about /home/user/.profile
[09:44] <recon69_lap> networkmanager unable to connect untill reboot http://pastebin.com/NgNKbxWn , any suggestions
[09:45] <hroi> jpds: I think just for now, yes, somehow remove all excess waist lying around
[09:45] <geirha> guest1987: What does it say about .profile?
[09:46] <hroi> jpds: apt-get clean  removes all downloaded packages right, doesnt remove anything I have isntalled?
[09:46] <bazhang> gingbot, hi
[09:46] <gingbot> bazhang: That's like the tenth invalid command I've gotten today. RTFM!
[09:46] <jpds> hroi: Exactly.
[09:46] <hroi> wow
[09:46] <ikonia> gingbot: hi
[09:46] <gingbot> ikonia: Bad syntax. BRB, gonna go nuke your home directory now.
[09:46] <hroi> that freed up a lot of space
[09:47] <guest1987> type=1503 audit() operation="open" pid= parent= profile="Xsession" requested_mask="r::" fusid ouid= name=".profile"
[09:47] <hroi> jpds: I dont see the point in apt-get holding on to installed packages...
[09:47] <guest1987> geirha, ^ nothing really its just an entry
[09:47] <hroi> jpds: can take up GB's of space, without ever being removed it seems
[09:47] <jpds> hroi: The cron script should delete them, depends on how your system is configured.
[09:48] <geirha> guest1987: Hm.  tail ~/.xsession-errors   see if that shows any useful error messages.
[09:49] <guest1987> and cat show a standard .profile, im wondering if i should remove the .profile and .xsession-errors show a 34: cant open /home/user/.profile
[09:49] <guest1987> lol was doing that
[09:49] <sven^> hey. I somewhat broke NetworkManager. I used it in the preinstalled gnome and then after a while switched to fluxbox and slim. At first NetworkManager connected to my wifi and the nm-applet still showed that I was offline and networking was disabled. Then i edited the files in /etc/dbus-1/system.d/ to allow all users in the group "netdev" the same stuff as root. Now I can see networks but still cannot connect or disconnect. As soon as I try I get an error in
[09:49] <sven^> the terminal I started nm-applet from, telling me I was not authorized to edit networking configuration
[09:49] <geirha> guest1987: Ok, sounds like the permissions on your homedir may be wrong.
[09:49] <recon69_lap> networkmanager unable to connect untill reboot http://pastebin.com/NgNKbxWn , any suggestions . this happening regularly
[09:49] <guest1987> geirha, i looks to be a session error with .profil
[09:50] <guest1987> geirha, the file is set with -rw-r--r-- me:me
[09:50] <geirha> guest1987: And your homedir? ls -ld ~
[09:50] <sven^> recon69_lap: I had that, too. Problem was wpa_supplicant crashing after suspend. Dunno if it's the same for you
[09:50] <hroi> jpds: actually Im running debian in this case - maybe they dont clean up their apt-get mess
[09:51] <guest1987> drwxr-xr-x me:me
[09:51] <hroi> jpds: non-sensical I think
[09:51] <recon69_lap> sven, my issue is in that line, but more than suppend seems to cause it
[09:51] <geirha> guest1987: Hm. That looks right. I don't see why it has problems reading .profile.
[09:52] <guest1987> me neither im mv .profile and gdm restart, see you on the other side, lol
[09:54] <geirha> guest1987: You likely want a .profile. You can copy the default one from /etc/skel. cp /etc/skel/.profile ~/
[09:55] <recon69_lap> and whats with the java channel, requires invite
[09:56] <geirha> recon69_lap: ##java, not #java
[09:56] <sven^> recon69_lap: next time it does not work, check dmesg
[09:56] <iuytfr> hello there
[09:57] <iuytfr> what is the task of cron daemon ?
[09:57] <bazhang> recon69_lap, recon69_lap requires registration not invite
[09:57] <sven^> recon69_lap: still, I do not know how to fix it. Killing the process didn't work for me so reboot is the only option to get wifi again
[09:57] <tomodachi> IdleOne: to run automated jobs from time to time
[09:57] <jpds> !cron | iuytfr
[09:57] <bazhang> !register > recon69_lap
[09:58] <guest1987> geirha, replacing with skel does the same, and removing displays more errors about perms? the only different is im using an ext2 fs rather than 4,3 and i use vm
[09:58] <guest1987> brb
[09:58] <recon69_lap> thx sven^, i'll add that to my list of things to look at and check it next time
[09:58] <geirha> guest1987: I'd boot the Ubuntu CD and do a filesystem check on you're system's / filesystem
[09:59] <iuytfr> well, on my pc cron daemon is pollute my pc
[09:59] <iuytfr> by sending mail every 1 hours
[09:59] <iuytfr> how to do stop polluting ?
[10:01] <jpds> iuytfr: Well, stop the cron job you added?
[10:01] <geirha> iuytfr: You have to find out which cron-job is failing and either fix it or remove it
[10:02] <iuytfr> in which file i can find it ?
[10:03] <jpds> iuytfr: Well, what are the emails complaining about?
[10:04] <aaa> (ubuntu 11.04, noob) on a different installation, i had menus on the top of the screen (application with sub-menus for the categories and system menu). now i have a sidebar on auto-hide. how do i get to the menus?
[10:04] <sven^> uhm, could anyone tell me as which user nm-applet is running for him?
[10:04] <bazhang> aaa, choose classic from login screen
[10:05] <lolmaus> I've bought a smallest VPS. Should i use 10.04LTS or 11.04? 32 or 64 bit?
[10:05] <aaa> i changed it so i no longer have login screen
[10:05] <geirha> sven^: for him?  nm-applet should be run as your user
[10:05] <Holdennn> Does anyone know how to list exported shares on a remote server?
[10:06] <sven^> geirha: yeah, I thought so, too. I have big permission troubles after switching from gnome to fluxbox
[10:06] <jpds> lolmaus: 10.04LTS with 32-bit (if you have a small ammount of memory).
[10:06] <iuytfr> this is the subject of the mail : Cron <root@ubunt> if [ ! -d /var/lock/mrtg ]; then mkdir /var/lock/mrtg; fi; if [ -x /usr/bin/mrtg ] && [ -r /etc/mrtg.cfg ]; then env LANG=C /usr/bin/mrtg /etc/mrtg.cfg 2>&1 | tee -a /var/log/mrtg/mrtg.log ; fi
[10:06] <pr0ton> what are some known issues with 11.04 ?
[10:07] <iuytfr> and this is what it is in the body of the mail : ERROR: CFG Error in "workdir", line 8: Working directory /var/www/mrtg does not exist
[10:07] <pr0ton> compared to 10.x
[10:07] <bazhang> pr0ton, check launchpad for bugs
[10:07] <lolmaus> jpds, thx
[10:07] <iuytfr> pollute with this kind of message every 6 min
[10:07] <bazhang> !notes > pr0ton
[10:07] <geirha> iuytfr: Do you have any files in /etc/cron.hourly/ ?
[10:07] <iuytfr> i got thousand of mail
[10:08] <iuytfr> no
[10:08] <jpds> lolmaus: Up to you really, and your requirements.
[10:09] <sven^> iuytfr: there should be a user line in those mails. Does it say root? Or is there another user?
[10:09] <Holdennn> Does anyone know how to list exported shares on a remote nfs server?
[10:09] <iuytfr> root user
[10:09] <lolmaus> jpds, the combination you suggested was also the default on my vps wizard so i chose it.
[10:09] <sven^> iuytfr: then try crontab -e as root
[10:10] <jpds> iuytfr: You clearly broke your mrtg install if it can't find /var/www/mrtg .
[10:10] <geirha> iuytfr: See if either of these commands list it   sudo crontab -l    or   cat /etc/crontab
[10:10] <iuytfr> what that command does ?
[10:10] <wms121> 123 boop
[10:10] <jpds> wms121: Sure.
[10:11] <wms121> ..anyone else with "issues"?
[10:11] <iuytfr> i got list of line with crontab -l
[10:11] <wms121> windows 8 ATE my laptop
[10:11] <bazhang> wms121, ubuntu support here
[10:12] <recon69> lol, wms121 , got loads of issues, but sharing them online not one of them
[10:14] <amccloud> Anyone here familiar with supervisord? I can't seem to get supervisor to start on boot. I see no errors in "/tmp/supervisord.log". My init.d script is executable and owned by the right user.
[10:14] <aaa> (ubuntu 11.04, noob) on a different installation, i had menus on the top of the screen (application with sub-menus for the categories and system menu). now i have a sidebar on auto-hide. how do i get to the menus? <bazhang> said to choose classic from the login screen, but i disabled it in some way.
[10:14] <wms121> anyone here with Nexenta experience?
[10:14] <amccloud> I did update-rc.d supervisord defaults and I see the symlinks in "/etc/rc[1-6].d/S20supervisord".
[10:15] <amccloud> Once the server starts I can do "/etc/init.d/supervisord start" and it works just fine. My other init scripts also work just fine.
[10:15] <bazhang> wms121, check their support forums, this is ubuntu support not nexenta
[10:15] <wms121> bazhang are they on freenode?
[10:16] <bazhang> !alis | wms121 check here too
[10:16] <wms121> thanks guys
[10:16] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/37131/how-to-make-gnome-classic-the-default-desktop-using-command-line-tools aaa this may be relevant
[10:18] <aaa> thanks, <bazhang>, i'll give it a try
[10:18] <amccloud> The fact that "/etc/init.d/supervisord start" works leads me to think it's an issue upstream in Ubuntu and not an issue specific to supervisord though.
[10:19] <recon69> does 64 bit ubuntu install have many issues over a 32bit install, can you install a 32bit version on a 64 bit pc, and would you want to.
[10:20] <amccloud> Is there anything I can debug what's going on?
[10:21] <micene> hi
[10:22] <iceroot> !upstart | amccloud
[10:22] <recon69> hi micene :)
[10:22] <iceroot> amccloud: use sudo service foo start instead of sudo /etc/init.d/foo start
[10:22] <micene> i cannot make some dvds work ... i installed all the libs, vlc, etcc..   i use natty 11.4 ... thx
[10:22] <iceroot> recon69: normally the only issue is flash
[10:22] <iceroot> !dvd | micene
[10:23] <micene> thanx
[10:25] <recon69> iceroot: flash got problems in 64bit?, could I use the 32bit ubuntu on a 64bit system
[10:25] <kayaman> hi
[10:25] <iceroot> recon69: you mean if you can install ubuntu in 32bit on a 64bit cpu?
[10:25] <kayaman> help please
[10:25] <recon69> iceroot: yes
[10:25] <iceroot> recon69: flash got always problems
[10:25] <iceroot> recon69: of course you can. how much ram?
[10:26] <kayaman> i need a help
[10:26] <kayaman> please help me
[10:26] <iceroot> !ask | kayaman
[10:26] <kayaman> okay icerooot
[10:27] <recon69> iceroot: not sure, it's only 2 or 3 gig, old 64bit 3mhz desktop getting reused as a private server.
[10:28] <kayaman> i have my tv tuner usb how can i link it in my ubuntu 11.04 and see the televisions
[10:28] <kayaman> icerooot read my post
[10:28] <recon69> iceroot:  also want it to work as a media center as well.
[10:29] <Melgarath> hi i am new here  , can someone tell me how i access to history or culture rooms?
[10:29] <kayaman> or drivers for tv tuner usb
[10:29] <Melgarath> i heard IRC is good for promoting those stuff
[10:29] <graingert> kayaman: http://projects.gnome.org/totem/#dvb
[10:29] <jrib> Melgarath: this network focuses mainly on software...
[10:29] <kayaman> melgarath we are not dealing with what you type
[10:29] <graingert> Melgarath: try #freenode
[10:30] <kayaman> not here
[10:30] <Melgarath> #freenode
[10:30] <kayaman> iceroot
[10:30] <recon69> kayaman: have you tried using kaffeine , is what i used when i had a tv tuner
[10:30] <kayaman> where are you
[10:30] <graingert> kayaman: you know you can tab complete right?
[10:30] <graingert> grai[tab] -> graingert:
[10:30] <kayaman> i dont know
[10:30] <Melgarath> me?
[10:31] <kayaman> may be you can help me from the scratch
[10:31] <graingert> Melgarath: yes you go to #freenode
[10:31] <Melgarath> but... how
[10:31] <graingert> Melgarath: click #freenode if that doesn't work try /j #freenode if that doesn't work try /join #freenode
[10:32] <recon69> Melgarath: maybe '/join ##freenode'
[10:32] <graingert> ##freenode?
[10:32] <recon69> opps
[10:32] <recon69> my bad :-[
[10:32] <Melgarath> ok but seems none is here? lol
[10:32] <kayaman> recon69 kaffeine is a media player
[10:33] <graingert> kayaman: kaffeine is the best for tv - but if you don't want all the kde-deps use the totem system
[10:33] <iceroot> recon69: i dont see a problem to use the amd64 version so you should use it
[10:33] <kayaman> graingert help me
[10:33] <graingert> kayaman: please don't type peoples names out it's a waste of time
[10:33] <graingert> use tab complete
[10:33] <kayaman> i dont know
[10:33] <kayaman> that
[10:34] <graingert> kayaman: "didn't" you know it now
[10:34] <guest1987> geirha, well it looks like im not alone! but the solution seams a bit harsh 324mb install! install gnome-desktop-environment,
[10:34] <kayaman> can we have a private chat
[10:34] <graingert> no
[10:34] <graingert> kayaman: use "grai[tab]" to say my name
[10:34] <kayaman> yes i dont know
[10:34] <graingert> you know now, kayaman
[10:34] <geirha> guest1987: Oh, you've somehow uninstalled gnome? That sure explains it.
[10:35] <guest1987> but i ant lol
[10:35] <kayaman> not up to now
[10:35] <guest1987> i did remove some packages that i didnt want from the ubuntu-desktop metapackage, but gnome is there, however i will have a play about, with this..
[10:36] <kayaman> greingert we can proceed in a new window
[10:36] <geirha> guest1987: I remember in earlier releases, which shipped with evolution by default, attempting to remove evolution, would drag gnome along with it
[10:36] <graingert> kayaman: great
[10:36] <graingert> kayaman: now what's your problem
[10:36] <jpds> graingert: Yes, because the clock-applet depends on evolution.
[10:36] <kayaman> okay
[10:36] <geirha> guest1987: So it's probably something like that that has happened.
[10:36] <jpds> Err, geirha ↑
[10:36] <graingert> kayaman: my name is not greingert
[10:36] <kayaman> wait please
[10:37] <graingert> kayaman: PLEASE USE TAB COMPLETE
[10:37] <guest1987> geirha, funny that, evolution was on my list of removals along with openoffice and most of th default ubuntu applications!
[10:37] <geirha> jpds: Hm?
[10:37] <kayaman> somebody call me
[10:37] <graingert> kayaman: it's wasting your time and will give you RSI
[10:37] <guest1987> but im back in now,
[10:37] <kayaman>  i wiil be back soon
[10:37] <kayaman> what is RSI
[10:37] <geirha> jpds: Oh, right, yes it didn't take down all of gnome, I remembered it wrongly, but it did uninstall the panel among other things.
[10:37] <recon69> kayaman: you need to get people handles right or they are likely to miss you messages, using tab complete avoids typos
[10:38] <guest1987> with loads of gnome stuff i did want nor use lol, still thanks, im going to have a play with this i thinks!
[10:38] <guest1987> brb
[10:38] <graingert> kayaman: do you know what the TAB key is?
[10:39] <graingert> kayaman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tab_key
[10:39] <kayaman> greingert i will be back
[10:39] <kayaman> take ma contact on facebook
[10:39] <kayaman> look for kayaman kaya
[10:40] <recon69> lol greingert,
[10:40] <greingert> recon69: I figured I might get his pings
[10:41] <recon69> well, been fun as always, i'll be back with when i network crashes again.
[10:42] <graingert> iNetwork?
[10:42] <graingert> shoddy apple products
[10:42] <recon69> my*
[10:42] <graingert> oic
[10:42] <king> hello  i  back
[10:43] <Guest7572> 想你们了
[10:43] <Guest7572> --
[10:45] <Guest7572> say  i miss  you
[10:47] <Guest7572> you  not  say
[10:48] <JohnyMnemnic> zbysiu
[10:49] <JohnyMnemnic> Guest7572,  think?
[10:49] <phretor> is it possible that upgrading from 10.10 server "automagically" installed XEN and spontaneously configured GRUB to boot from a DOM0 that I haven't obviously configured (not being aware of it)?
[10:56] <wojtala> hello. I have a dummy question - why after removing xorg.conf it's still trying to use emgd driver? I'm testing psb-gfx kernel driver for my poulsbo card, and moving xorg.conf doens't work
[10:56] <wojtala> here's the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/690680/   thank you for any advices
[10:57] <Zac12> Hi wondering if someone can assist; I am trying to create a .autorun file for a usb drive, although when I try autorun I get "Error autorunning software, cannot find the autorun program" ... Any one done this before?
[11:01] <Xero00> morning all
[11:01] <Xero00> anyone good with Make?
[11:04] <iceroot> !make | Xero00
[11:04] <iceroot> Xero00: also see "man make"
[11:04] <Xero00> reading it now
[11:05] <kayaman> iceroot we can proceed am back
[11:05] <Xero00> was there ...still trying to umm "get it" i guess
[11:05] <kayaman> iceroot am back
[11:05] <iceroot> kayaman: and what was the issue?
[11:06] <kayaman> the issue is am looking for drivers of my tv tuner
[11:06] <kayaman> and now am run ubuntu 11.04
[11:06] <iceroot> kayaman: sorry i am not using a tv tuner
[11:06] <kayaman> its interface is USB
[11:06] <iceroot> Xero00: what is the reason you need make instead of apt-get install?
[11:07] <Xero00> have to modify broadcom drivers
[11:07] <kayaman> if you have also a concept for the linkage between pc and tv tuner
[11:07] <Xero00> want to run an external adapter
[11:07] <kayaman> it is independent from the external power source
[11:08] <iceroot> Xero00: hm there was a channel for make but it wasnt called #make something like cutils or so
[11:08] <kayaman> let me give its picture of how it looks like
[11:08] <kayaman> it is a Cute! TV USB
[11:09] <ikonia> someone was trying to use those yesterday, the Cute! TV card didn't appear to be supported
[11:11] <kayaman> try look for this link and see how its picture is http://www.google.co.tz/imgres?imgurl=http://images.fuzing.com/members/1/08/00000108/133.300x300.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.fuzing.com/vli/00000178b233/CuteTV-USB--Unique-WJPG-compression-technology&usg=__as8vp6Imt73pXuMNQJDVixqZerA=&h=245&w=300&sz=7&hl=en&start=5&zoom=0&itbs=1&tbnid=PUYDLsniJJLSGM:&tbnh=95&tbnw=116&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dcute%2Btv%2Busb%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26biw%3D1366%26bih%3D652%26noj%3D1%26t
[11:11] <kayaman> bm%3Disch%26prmd%3Dimvnsfd&ei=dS5zToPSIdGF-wa02-igDA
[11:11] <FloodBot1> kayaman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:11] <iceroot> kayaman: its a good idea to describe your ubuntu-releated issue in one line with usefull details
[11:11] <kayaman> that above is a a link
[11:12] <ikonia> kayaman: I don't think those devices worked under linux, I was talking to someone about this yesterday who was having a problem with one, when I looked the Linux support was pretty much non-existant
[11:12] <lokomis> this is a better link of what they're talking about, at least i think:  http://www.converters.tv/products/images/usb_tv_box_cute_tv_0_34.jpg
[11:12] <kayaman> just open and see how it look like
[11:12] <lokomis> its a USB TV tuner similar to ATI's USB WONDER tuner
[11:12] <lokomis> but I've no experience with them
[11:12] <Zac12> Hi wondering if someone can assist; I am trying to create a .autorun file for a usb drive, although when I try autorun I get "Error autorunning software, cannot find the autorun program" ... Any one done this before?
[11:12] <ikonia> kayaman: it doesn't matter what the box looks like
[11:12] <kayaman> its more elaboration in order to be understood easily
[11:13] <ikonia> kayaman: you don't need to see a box to know if it's supported/works or not, it's a USB TV adaptor
[11:13] <kayaman> okay ikonia
[11:13] <ikonia> kayaman: but as I was saying, that person who was using these devices yesterday went through the chipsets they use and they didn't really have Linux support
[11:14] <kayaman> thanks you know that am new in this IRC
[11:15] <kayaman> so u mean linux does provide support for tv tuner
[11:15] <ikonia> kayaman: for that make/model, it doesn't look like it
[11:15] <ikonia> kayaman: the cute! tv devices I looked at yesterday where all not supported
[11:16] <kayaman> because in my ubuntu 11.04 there is a application for running that device
[11:16] <cheche> how can I ensure that firefox call goes to /opt/firefox version?
[11:16] <ikonia> kayaman: there was an application for running a Cute! TV device specfically, or just a TV device in general
[11:16] <iceroot> cheche: "which firefox"
[11:16] <kayaman> and it is called HD homeRun config GNU
[11:17] <cheche> root@recepcion:/opt# which firefox
[11:17] <cheche> /usr/bin/firefox
[11:17] <ikonia> kayaman: that's not for Cute! TV devices specifically.
[11:17] <ikonia> kayaman: did it work with your Cute! TV device ?
[11:17] <cheche> iceroot: that will tell me which one uses
[11:17] <iceroot> cheche: dont use a root-shell!
[11:17] <iceroot> cheche: which will tell you the path to a program
[11:18] <kayaman> so which application can run my cute
[11:18] <kayaman> dsevice
[11:18] <cheche> iceroot: ok. i know that is with update-.alternatives
[11:18] <ikonia> kayaman: from my research yesterday, I don't believe it will work in Linux
[11:18] <iceroot> kayaman: vlc and so on but the problem is the driver
[11:18] <kayaman> okay how about for windows
[11:18] <iceroot> kayaman: ##windows
[11:19] <ikonia> kayaman: the guys in the channel called ##windows can help you with that
[11:19] <kayaman> or which operating system can with
[11:19] <iceroot> kayaman: ask the manufactor
[11:20] <kayaman> i get from my friend and he didn't gave me a driver
[11:20] <Xero00> followed the guide on compiling...still got errors
[11:21] <ikonia> kayaman: well I (personally) don't believe it will work in Linux so I don't think it's something we can help you with in this channel
[11:21] <kayaman> help me mr.iceroot for that matter cause it really cracking my head
[11:21] <kayaman> so ikonia  it means no help
[11:22] <Xero00> you could maybe try NDIS
[11:22] <ikonia> no, you can't
[11:22] <kayaman> NDIS what is it?
[11:23] <Xero00> jumped in the middle must have missed something
[11:23] <kayaman> so linux discriminate  devices
[11:23] <cheche> kayaman: ?
[11:23] <kayaman> or what do you mean
[11:23] <iceroot> kayaman: not linux but the manufactor
[11:23] <ikonia> kayaman: look - some devices don't work under Linux, it's that simple
[11:23] <kayaman> yes cheche
[11:23] <iceroot> !hardware | kayaman
[11:24] <kayaman> ubotttu
[11:24] <kayaman> what
[11:24] <kayaman> ????/
[11:24] <iceroot> kayaman: what is the problem about what ubottu wrote?
[11:25] <iceroot> kayaman: also you can use TAB for nick-completion
[11:25] <Xero00> well...the wifi stick i'm using right now isnt supported...
[11:25] <Xero00> now this other one i'm working on.....
[11:25] <ikonia> Xero00: is he using a network card.......
[11:26] <Xero00> i've got the driver built but can get it to compile to save my life
[11:26] <kayaman> so nick connection
[11:26] <Xero00> *can't
[11:26] <kayaman> can it help me with tuner
[11:26] <ikonia> Xero00: how can you have the driver built if you can't compile it ?
[11:26] <ikonia> Xero00: compiling it is what builds it
[11:26] <ikonia> kayaman: I don't believe your tuner will work with Linux
[11:27] <Xero00> sources are done makefile is done
[11:27] <ikonia> Xero00: sources are "done" ?
[11:27] <Xero00> keep getting errors on the make
[11:27] <kayaman> lets look about the linux supported devices
[11:27] <Xero00> as in written
[11:28] <ikonia> Xero00: you've written the source code for a network card driver ?
[11:28] <Xero00> and they are valid
[11:28] <Xero00> broadcom wrote the bulk of it ;p
[11:28] <kayaman> switch isn't there
[11:28] <kayaman> even router
[11:29] <ikonia> kayaman: what are you talking about ?
[11:29] <kayaman> so you meanthose are not supported
[11:29] <ikonia> Xero00: so what have you dont to it ?
[11:29] <Xero00> router is external
[11:29] <ikonia> Xero00: what have you "done" to it sorry
[11:29] <kayaman> even my card is external
[11:29] <kayaman> nott internal
[11:29] <ikonia> kayaman: your card is not supported
[11:29] <ikonia> kayaman: internal/external - it doesn't matter, your device is not supported
[11:29] <Xero00> added lines for support of this specific chipset and the kernel IO
[11:30] <ikonia> Xero00: who told you to do that ?
[11:30] <Xero00> <---
[11:30] <kayaman> ikonia  am starting to doubt if what you tell me  with my tuner
[11:30] <Xero00> i want to make this one work lol
[11:30] <ikonia> Xero00: so you just randomly added a line to the card driver
[11:30] <ikonia> Xero00: do you actually know how the driver works ?
[11:31] <ikonia> kayaman: fine - good luck getting it working
[11:31] <kayaman> and  i cant get tired of it
[11:31] <Xero00> as in associations
[11:31] <ikonia> kayaman: because it won't work with linux
[11:31] <Xero00> or as in IO
[11:31] <ikonia> Xero00: as in how that driver works and it it will technically be compatible with your card
[11:31] <Xero00> or as in dependencies
[11:32] <Xero00> yes
[11:32] <kayaman> am i will suffer for until the destiny
[11:32] <Xero00> pretty much the only difference in the driver is support for my kernel
[11:32] <ikonia> Xero00:.......what ?
[11:33] <ikonia> Xero00: apologies, I'm not understanding what you're actually saying
[11:33] <claudio-tux> good morning
[11:33] <ikonia> Xero00: is the driver you want to use, compatible with your current kernel ?
[11:33] <Xero00> the kernel has a schedule at which to poll the device
[11:33] <claudio-tux> I have problem in flamerobin + firebird2.1
[11:33] <ikonia> Xero00: that's not what I asked
[11:34] <Xero00> .....
[11:34] <Xero00> ok
[11:34] <claudio-tux>    I am trying to create a new database in a directory
[11:34] <Xero00> broadcom has a linux driver
[11:34] <ikonia> Xero00: is the driver you want to use compatible with your current ubuntu kernel ?
[11:34] <nos__> does openbox runs with compiz ?
[11:34] <ikonia> again, not what I asked
[11:34] <claudio-tux> drwxr-xr-x  3 firebird firebird  4096 2011-09-15 22:04 ByteSys
[11:34] <gentoo-intel> nos__, no
[11:34] <kayaman> cause in ubuntu supported device tuner isn't there  so what am i asking is i didn't see even a router or switch  does this make sense that ubuntu doesnt support those device
[11:34] <Xero00> no but neither is the one i'm running now ;p
[11:34] <claudio-tux> Engine Code    : 335544344
[11:34] <claudio-tux> Engine Message :
[11:34] <claudio-tux> I/O error during "open O_CREAT" operation for file "/home/claudio/Projetos/ByteSys/Dados"
[11:34] <claudio-tux> Error while trying to create file
[11:34] <claudio-tux> Permission denied
[11:34] <FloodBot1> claudio-tux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:35] <ikonia> Xero00: ok - so why are you asking us for help, it's not supported with your current Ubuntu kernel, you're manually modifying it and it won't build.......
[11:35] <nos__> gentoo-intel, so how do you get transparent terminal ?> cairo-compmgr ?
[11:35] <gentoo-intel> nos__, yes
[11:35] <claudio-tux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/690718/
[11:35] <Xero00> because i'm doing something wrong with make
[11:35] <ikonia> Xero00: are you ?
[11:35] <ikonia> Xero00: how do you know ?
[11:35] <Xero00> i have to be
[11:35] <ikonia> Xero00: no you don't
[11:35] <kayaman> ikonia   cause in ubuntu supported device tuner isn't there  so what am i asking is i didn't see even a router or switch  does this make sense that ubuntu doesnt support those device
[11:35] <Xero00> error output
[11:35] <Xero00> sec
[11:35] <ikonia> Xero00: if the source code is incomaptible with the kernel version it's linked against, it won't build.....ever
[11:36] <ikonia> Xero00: it's nothing to do with "make"
[11:36] <kayaman> xerooo    cause in ubuntu supported device tuner isn't there  so what am i asking is i didn't see even a router or switch  does this make sense that ubuntu doesnt support those device
[11:36] <claudio-tux> help-me
[11:36] <nos__> gentoo-intel, yeah .. but the problems is tint2(panel) disappears after starting cairo !
[11:36] <gentoo-intel> Xero00, i dont think youll get much help here with driver code
[11:36] <kayaman>  cause in ubuntu supported device tuner isn't there  so what am i asking is i didn't see even a router or switch  does this make sense that ubuntu doesnt support those device
[11:36] <ikonia> kayaman: ubuntu is an OS - it doesn't care what type of router or switch you plug into it
[11:36] <gentoo-intel> nos__, no idea, maybe have tint2 run after its set?
[11:37] <kayaman> yes if that even my tuner also  shouldnt care of it
[11:37] <Xero00> as long as you have the support for its encryption
[11:37] <ikonia> kayaman: your tuner is not a router - it is a TV tuner, that requires a driver....that doesn't exist in ubuntu
[11:37] <Xero00> the code is good
[11:37] <kayaman> ikonia it willl ddetect automatically
[11:37] <Xero00> trust me
[11:37] <king313> hi guys! any idea of how enabling remote view from WAN?
[11:37] <nos__> gentoo-intel, or just in case, i think i can use a dock as a panel ...?!?!
[11:37] <ikonia> Xero00: no - I don't because you don't sound like you have a clue what you're doing
[11:37] <Xero00> maybe i just need to get some sleep
[11:37] <gentoo-intel> Xero00, then it should work... lol
[11:37] <king313> I have been searching google and maybe I am not hitting with the correct keywords
[11:38] <kayaman> thannks ikonia
[11:38] <ikonia> Xero00: you've just said it's not supported with the current kernel.....and it won't build with the current kernel....shock horror
[11:38] <Xero00> ok i'll explain this again
[11:38] <king313> all solutions I found are from previous versions that didn't limit connections to LAN
[11:38] <gentoo-intel> nos__, yes you can use any dock (docky whatever)
[11:38] <Guest7572> hello
[11:38] <Xero00> you're awfully militant ik
[11:38] <gentoo-intel> nos__, i use lxpanel with openbox, but i dont use transparency
[11:38] <Xero00> before you've heard everything
[11:39] <Xero00> Installing with make...Installing with install...
[11:39] <Xero00> [11:39] <Xero00> install -D -m 755 wl.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/wl.ko
[11:39] <kayaman> so ikonia when you plug a router or aswitch in ubuntu it will detect automatically is that what you mean
[11:39] <Calinou> ...
[11:39] <ikonia> Xero00: are you using ubuntu or backtrack ?
[11:40] <Xero00> ;p
[11:40] <ikonia> kayaman: a router / switch is a dumb device to the OS
[11:40] <ikonia> Xero00: are you using ubuntu or backtrack ?
[11:40] <Xero00> busted
[11:40] <Xero00> BT5
[11:40] <kayaman> even my tuner is also a dumb
[11:40] <ikonia> Xero00: right - this discussion stops now, you know you are doing wrong, so do not ask for help/discussion it again
[11:40] <gentoo-intel> Xero00, as main os?
[11:41] <ikonia> kayaman: it is not
[11:41] <kayaman> yes i know
[11:41] <Xero00> yep
[11:41] <gentoo-intel> lol
[11:41] <king313> hi guys, any suggestion of how to enable remote desktop view to accept WAN connections?
[11:41] <pyghassen> hi guys
[11:41] <dr_willis> king313:  you mean over the internet? You would want to set up a ssh tunnel for that.
[11:41] <pyghassen> I know that you are the only one who gonna save me
[11:41] <Xero00> doing wrong?
[11:42] <ikonia> Xero00: asking in #ubuntu for backtrack helop
[11:42] <pyghassen> I have that issue with ethernet driver
[11:42] <gentoo-intel> Xero00, BT isnt supported, and its designed to be run as a livecd
[11:42] <Xero00> ok i'll give ya that
[11:42] <kayaman>  ikonia  but with the help of drivers can help to take off that dumb
[11:42] <king313> dr_willis, is a solution... thanks
[11:42] <pyghassen> and I can't do nothing about it
[11:42] <king313> it's annonying that there is no option to allow internet connections
[11:42] <ikonia> kayaman: look, it's not supported, it won't work
[11:42] <Xero00> actually is rock stable as a main OS
[11:42] <ikonia> Xero00: take it to #backtrack-linux please,
[11:43] <pyghassen> Re: 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. Unknown device
[11:43] <kayaman> ikonia you are disappointing  me
[11:43] <Xero00> kaya
[11:43] <kayaman> yes xerooooooo
[11:43] <Xero00> i would suggest you take it to google
[11:43] <Xero00> you are wasting your time here
[11:43] <kayaman> google cant help me
[11:43] <gentoo-intel> Xero00, do you think its more secure of something? its an offensive tool
[11:44] <Xero00> no
[11:44] <kayaman>  for that matter
[11:44] <gentoo-intel> sorry a lot of people get confused
[11:44] <Xero00> actually its less secure imo
[11:44] <gentoo-intel> i know
[11:44] <Xero00> but for the basic functions i need from it
[11:44] <ikonia> gentoo-intel: please stop the backtrack conversation in here
[11:44] <ikonia> Xero00: I won't ask you again
[11:44] <kayaman> xeroo can we talk direct on skype
[11:45] <kayaman> xeroooo can we talk dierct on skype
[11:45] <Xero00> answer me a question though ikon
[11:46] <Xero00> why wouldnt ndis work for kay?
[11:46] <ikonia> Xero00: because it's not a network card he's using - it's a TV card
[11:46] <kayaman> xerooooo which one
[11:46] <Xero00> doh
[11:47] <kayaman> ikonia yes it is a tv tuner
[11:47] <kayaman> its interface is  via USB
[11:47] <pyghassen> guys I got a situation here, I installed ubuntu, but the eth is not detected,I got this message when I run lspci "Re: 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. Unknown device"
[11:47] <kayaman> http://www.converters.tv/products/images/usb_tv_box_cute_tv_0_34.jpg
[11:48] <pyghassen> I can't connect to the internet what so ever, so any suggestions?
[11:49] <gentoo-intel> pyghassen, you need to manually install the driver
[11:50] <gentoo-intel> from what google tells me its not built in
[11:51] <pyghassen> I never did that before, or I never succeeded to do it, I must doing something wrong gentoo-intel
[11:51] <kayaman> ikonia why do you kick me
[11:51] <kayaman> its not good behaviour
[11:51] <gentoo-intel> pyghassen, with that same network card?
[11:51] <Selassie> Hey there, can anyone help me with my computer being unable to boot windows nor ubuntu 11.04, I am guessing my MBR doesn't work.
[11:51] <gentoo-intel> Selassie, what does it say?
[11:52] <Selassie> It says: Ubuntu
[11:52] <pyghassen> gentoo-intel: let me ask you 1st, do I really need build-essential to do so?
[11:52] <gentoo-intel> i think so yes
[11:52] <Zac12> Hi wondering if someone can assist; I am trying to create a .autorun file for a usb drive, although when I try autorun I get "Error autorunning software, cannot find the autorun program" ... Any one done this before?
[11:52] <Selassie> And when I try to boot up Ubuntu, I get an error.
[11:52] <gentoo-intel> sorry got to go
[11:52]  * nos__ test
[11:53] <nos__> gentoo-intel: so lxpanel does provide transparency ?
[11:53] <pyghassen> gentoo-intel: unfortunately it's not pre-installed, and as I said, I can't connect to internet with it
[11:54] <nos__> pyghassen, is it wireless ?
[11:55] <pyghassen> no it's eth, it kinda blocking issue for a desktop nos__
[12:00] <chirag_d_gr8> due to power save in wlan0, i am unable to get high speed in wifi connection. how to switch off power save in wlan0 permanently?
[12:00] <G0R> pyghassen: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=770173
[12:00] <ixxu> while watching movies or listening to mp3s via vlc my sound is all fine, when using skype or teamspeak i need to adjust the volume otherwise i get crispy sound, like damaged audioutputdevice
[12:05] <pyghassen> G0R thanks, but I already saw it, I guess I need build-essential to install that, but I can have it coz the eth is not detected :(
[12:05] <G0R> pyghassen: usb stick?
[12:06] <somicuthbert> hey
[12:06] <somicuthbert> jj
[12:06] <jpmh> i have a netbook - under Windoze itsees the interal mic and th nic jack - ubuntu does not - what do I need to do
[12:06] <Selassie> Can anyone help me with just installing grub2 instead of MBR and add all my operating systems to grub2? :c
[12:06] <somicuthbert> mine i cant
[12:07] <dr_willis> Selassie:  what version of ubuntu do you have installed riogth now?
[12:07] <Selassie> 11.04
[12:07] <kayaman> ubuntu 11.04
[12:07] <pyghassen> G0R here is the worst news it's ubuntu 8.04, so I need some packages to make it work :)
[12:07] <kayaman> and you
[12:07] <Selassie> Somehow I messed up my MBR and grub2.
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> Selassie: there's grub-repair
[12:07] <Selassie> I know that, didn't work with me though
[12:08] <dr_willis> !fixgrub | Selassie
[12:09] <Selassie> I know about the internet pages aswell.
[12:09] <Selassie> I've really tried alot.
[12:10] <dr_willis> Selassie:    so basically 'nothing worked' and you want some sort of special help :) even though you havent really told us more then 'it dident work'
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> Selassie: do you have more than one pc? if yes: ssh to your 'damaged' pc, backup and reinstall
[12:12] <hp>  salut
[12:13] <Selassie> I don't have any other computers, nah :c
[12:14] <Selassie> But I am running the ubuntu 11.04 liveCD right now.
[12:15] <Selassie> The problem is that i kinda messed up my MBR and my grub
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> Selassie: do you have an external disk available?
[12:15] <Selassie> I do!
[12:16] <Selassie> That's where ubuntu is installed on
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> Selassie: you installed your main system on a usb disk? this is quite unusual
[12:18] <Selassie> Not my main system.
[12:19] <Selassie> I have installed windows on my internal hard disk and ubuntu 11.04 on my external harddisk.
[12:21] <Mundz> hello is there anyone here that could provide some help with some bash script issues ?
[12:21] <graingert> Selassie: where is the MBR messed up?
[12:21] <graingert> Mundz: #bash
[12:21] <prod_> Hi guys, Im having trouble with gparted and resizing a NTFS partition. I saved the error message and i have "ERROR: 2930 clusters are referenced multiply times."
[12:21] <Mundz> thanks
[12:21] <Selassie> On my internal hard disk, i guess?
[12:21] <graingert> Selassie: in what way is it messed up?
[12:21] <Selassie> But i was thinking of a way to just delete the MBR thingy and install grub2?
[12:21] <Selassie> Oh eh.
[12:22] <graingert> Selassie: can you still boot windows, can you still boot ubuntu?
[12:22] <Selassie> No i cannot boot ubuntu nor windows.
[12:22] <graingert> Selassie: what happens when you boot?
[12:22] <th0r> Selassie: I would reinstall the windows mbr on the internal, put grub on the usb drive, and reset the boot options to boot first off the usb drive IF it is plugged in
[12:22] <kaleem> how r you all?
[12:22] <Selassie> I believe that I messed it up when trying to do the dual boot part.
[12:23] <graingert> Selassie: in that case use a windows cd to recover the windows MBR
[12:23] <Selassie> When I boot up MBR starts up
[12:23] <Selassie> And then it shows Ubuntu
[12:23] <graingert> Selassie: there is a way of copying the backup
[12:23] <graingert> Selassie: so it goes to grub?
[12:23] <Selassie> But my windows cd wouldn't let me do that
[12:24] <Selassie> It would only install a new windows
[12:24] <Selassie> But that;s not what i want
[12:25] <Selassie> No it doesn't go to grub
[12:25] <Selassie> I tried to add ubuntu to the MBR
[12:25] <Selassie> and then when I found out that it didnt work
[12:25] <Selassie> i tried to delete the ubuntu tag
[12:25] <mtlife> hi, after installing lxde and trying out that desktop environment, unity does not launch anymore
[12:25] <Selassie> cuz it would run that one within 10 seconds when i boot up my computer
[12:26] <mtlife> i am seeing my background image, and desktop, but not top bar and no launcher
[12:26] <graingert> Selassie: http://www.arsgeek.com/2008/01/15/how-to-fix-your-windows-mbr-with-an-ubuntu-livecd/
[12:26] <Selassie> I already tried that
[12:26] <Selassie> but ms-sys wouldnt install
[12:26] <graingert> what was the error?
[12:26] <Selassie> ehm
[12:26] <prod_> Hi guys, Im having trouble with gparted and resizing a NTFS partition. I saved the error message and i have "ERROR: 2930 clusters are referenced multiply times." In the error report it says to go to windows and do chkdsk /f but my windows OS just flakes out when i try to use the hdd in any way. Any help would be hugely appreciated
[12:27] <Selassie> unable to locate package ms-sys
[12:27] <Selassie> but that's because some licensing problem
[12:27] <graingert> Selassie: . Once Ubuntu starts up, go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources and enable (by checking it off) the Universal repository.
[12:27] <Selassie> oh ok
[12:27] <graingert> Selassie: you need to read the page
[12:27] <Selassie> b-..
[12:28] <graingert> Selassie: were you using wubi or something?
[12:28] <Selassie> no.
[12:28] <graingert> kewl
[12:28] <Dmole> prod_: try a windows boot disk or repairing the FS from linux somehow
[12:28] <Selassie> where can i find system administration then?
[12:28] <graingert> kayaman: worked out how to ask questions in IRC yet?
[12:28] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:28] <graingert> Selassie: oh yeah you're on Unity
[12:28] <kayaman> greinget
[12:29] <graingert> Selassie: [Meta] Software Sources
[12:29] <graingert> kayaman: greinget isn't here
[12:29] <Selassie> Meta?
[12:29] <graingert> Selassie: the Meta key
[12:29] <eitch> hi guys, i installed oneiric yesterday and it is looking good. Yet i have a problem: Is there a reason that the users and group ui can not be used to modify anything? The unlock button is disabled... Is that still in development?
[12:30] <graingert> eitch: #ubuntu+1
[12:30] <Selassie> I don't believe i have that one..
[12:30] <xosuitehearts> Is anyone on that is experienced with WINE?
[12:30] <xosuitehearts> anyone?
[12:30] <[IFOC]75> Is there a way to change the size of the close, minimize, and maximize buttons? I like the look of these buttons, but they are too small
[12:30] <eitch> graingert, thx
[12:30] <graingert> !google meta key
[12:30] <graingert> meh
[12:30] <Dmole> xosuitehearts: I use basic wine
[12:31] <graingert> Selassie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_key
[12:31] <xosuitehearts> I heard that WINE can get malware?
[12:31] <IdleOne> Selassie: the meta key also known as the Windows key
[12:31] <Selassie> eh
[12:31] <Selassie> i dont have that one.. lol
[12:31] <Selassie> but wait
[12:31] <xosuitehearts> If what all parts of my Linux system can it infect?
[12:31] <graingert> IdleOne: it can be emulated by the Windows Key
[12:31] <kayaman> graingert you declare my name
[12:31] <xosuitehearts> Dmole are you knowledgable with WINE?
[12:31] <graingert> kayaman: I do
[12:32] <kayaman> that am asking question in IRC
[12:32] <Pici> xosuitehearts: #winehq is a better place for this question.
[12:32] <xosuitehearts> thanks mate
[12:32] <graingert> kayaman: please go to the #ubuntu channel in your locale
[12:32] <Selassie> ehm
[12:32] <Selassie> i dont have software sources
[12:32] <graingert> kayaman: or use a better translation tool
[12:33] <kayaman> so you mean am poor in translation
[12:33] <Dmole> xosuitehearts:anything can get malware but it's unlikely in wine because if it runs in wine you will see it running and you can kill it, otherwise it's a rootkit and it makes no difference if you have wine or not.... overall I'd say it's less likely than a normal linux malware
[12:34] <xosuitehearts> Dmole say I get a trojan virii in WINE
[12:34] <[IFOC]75> anyone know if it's possible to change the size of the close/minimize/maximize buttons?
[12:34] <kayaman> okay graingert
[12:34] <xosuitehearts> Dmole would it fuck with my Linux filesystem as well?
[12:34] <graingert> kayaman: your brain is an element of the set of all translation tools
[12:34] <Selassie> I do not have software sources.
[12:35] <Pici> xosuitehearts: Please mind your language here.
[12:35] <xosuitehearts> sorry pici, my fault
[12:35] <Pici> graingert: Lets try to stay on-topic here.
[12:35] <[IFOC]75> I guess not; I like the Ambience buttons but they are too small; I can barely see them.
[12:35] <kayaman> yap
[12:35] <kayaman> yes
[12:35] <[IFOC]75> II'll try to get used to them then
[12:35] <kayaman>  i know
[12:35] <Pici> kayaman: Please try to re-ask your question, all on one line.
[12:35] <kayaman> that graingert
[12:36] <Pici> kayaman: It is not easy to understand you, sorry.
[12:36] <graingert> kayaman: please ask your question in the ubuntu channel of your language
[12:36] <kayaman> am in need wi the tv tuner drivers
[12:36] <Dmole> xosuitehearts: yes it could but more likely it would just crash in the strange enviroment, you can check for sure by installing one there is some website that keeps sample malware for testing and detection  ("kill wine" would kill it)
[12:36] <donofrio> morning all
[12:36] <donofrio> gotta question about powerpc and 11.10
[12:37] <graingert> kayaman: install kaffiene or use Totem TV
[12:37] <Selassie> How do I connect to the dutch ubuntu server?
[12:37] <donofrio> after my install completes it doesn't know how to boot my macmini ?
[12:37] <Dmole> xosuitehearts: if you want to "harden" wine run it in a jail/chroot, or vm
[12:37] <graingert> Selassie: do you mean dutch ubuntu channel?
[12:37] <Pici> donofrio : Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[12:37] <jpmh> kayaman: u keep coming back to that - they may not be available - ubuntu does not have drivers for everything - contact the vendor of the tuner
[12:37] <Selassie> yes
[12:37] <donofrio> I get the blinking folder icon )-:
[12:37] <graingert> Selassie: or dutch software source
[12:37] <Selassie> channel
[12:37] <donofrio> that is in live cd mode
[12:37] <Pici> !nl | Selassie
[12:38] <Donatas260> Ubuntu works fine on mactini
[12:38] <coz_> donofrio,  you might want to go to  #ubuntu+1  for 11.10, that is the official channel for pre-releases
[12:38] <donofrio> in alt mode it is unable to find the cdrom and I cannot find the kernel object called ide-scsi
[12:38] <donofrio> oh k
[12:38] <donofrio> tnx
[12:38] <coz_> donofrio,  no problem
[12:39] <xosuitehearts> Dmole alright, so say I have a keygen.exe for windows and im running it in Wine, and its a trojan, will it play Slaughterhouse on my Linux system?
[12:40] <kayaman> kaffiene is a media player  how possible to use it as tv application software
[12:41] <coz_> kayaman,   do you have a tv tuner card?
[12:41] <coz_> kayaman,   I dont use KDE much  but I did find this    http://userbase.kde.org/Kaffeine-TV
[12:42] <kayaman> coz_
[12:42] <coz_> kayaman,  also look here   http://tvtime.sourceforge.net/
[12:42] <xosuitehearts> Dmole and by slaughterhouse I mean "slaughter my house" of files and passwords and encrypted data on my Linux file system
[12:42] <kayaman> i think  you can help
[12:42] <kayaman>  me
[12:42] <kayaman> lets chat private
[12:42] <Dmole> xosuitehearts: if you want to know: only one way to find out, test it. if you just want to run it safely chroot wine and it will not be able to touch linux.
[12:43] <xosuitehearts> Dmole and if it does? would it do much effect? because it would be a Windows OS virii?
[12:44] <coz_> !pm
[12:44] <Dmole> xosuitehearts: I did say "only one way to find out" ....
[12:45] <xosuitehearts> coz_ you do know that I AM in the other channel and im getting more advice from Dmole than I am from those guys
[12:45] <coz_> xosuitehearts,  ok not sure what you mean though
[12:46] <xosuitehearts> well
[12:47] <xosuitehearts> coz_ you did !pm
[12:47] <xosuitehearts> correct?
[12:47] <Dmole> bbl
[12:47] <coz_> xosuitehearts,  yes but for general knowledge, not speicifically to anyone :)
[12:47] <prod_>  
[12:48] <xosuitehearts> coz_ arg mate. you drive a hard bargain
[12:52] <parapan> hi fellows > I have this problem > I cannot see the router index page when browsing from ubuntu server ( terminal mode ) with either w3m or lynx ....they display some d234.gif information but I cannot see that pictures ...even so ..I think this is graphical from the frames but not the real content of the page ....what can I do ???
[12:53] <MeanEYE> parapan: bare in mind that neither of those browsers support javascript, which most of router UIs use.
[12:53] <parapan> MeanEYE: grrrrr > thanks for the tip .....any workaround ?
[12:53] <M1N1Me> afaik lynx doesn't show images
[12:53] <MeanEYE> parapan: hm, well lynx has a basic support for frames... but workaround... hm, not that I know of.
[12:54] <jatt> lynx sucks
[12:54] <MeanEYE> parapan: if your router supports ssh maybe handle things that way?
[12:55] <parapan> MeanEYE: if it would :D but is not the case .....it's a D-link product ....with proprietary firmware
[12:55] <mtlife> hi, after installing lxde and trying out that desktop environment, unity does not launch anymore
[12:55] <mtlife> i am seeing my background image, and desktop, but not top bar and no launcher
[12:55] <MeanEYE> parapan: Can you be specific on what you want to do with your router?
[12:56] <parapan> MeanEYE: is there any version of X .....something light which I can use as "virtual" system .....?
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> parapan: jwm (wm means window manager)
[12:56] <parapan> MeanEYE: I miss some info like the IP of one specific computer on the network .....and I want to "see" the configuration page :D
[12:56] <felipe__> irc.linuxerz.org
[12:57] <MeanEYE> parapan: Well, in theory (since I never done it), you can install VBox or KVM and then connect through ssh tunnel to a remote desktop.
[12:57] <parapan> MonkeyDust: ok ....than a Java window manager
[12:57] <akem> hey
[12:57] <MeanEYE> parapan: But it's a pain.
[12:57] <akem> would hibernate works on a HP Pavilion laptop?
[12:58] <akem> i mean is it possible to get hibernate with ubuntu on HP laptop out of the box without messing with anything.
[12:58] <MeanEYE> akem: HP has a pretty good Linux support. You can always test with live cd.
[12:58] <parapan> MeanEYE: I don;t know if it works ...VBox needs X to be installed .....if I'd had this on the server I would not need the virtualisation .....
[12:58] <parapan> I can use a standard browser
[12:58] <MeanEYE> akem: Bare in mind that Linux hibernates to swap partition and it needs to be bigger than your ram.
[12:59] <ikonia> MeanEYE: then you can't test with a livecd...as there is no swap partition
[12:59] <MeanEYE> ikonia: Yeah, :D ... I thought he meant suspend at first.
[12:59] <akem> MeanEYE, ok, yes i will test then.
[12:59] <akem> hm
[12:59] <mtlife> can someone help me get unity to work properly again?
[13:00] <parapan> OK ...does anyone know a better solution ???? browsing with a w3m or lynx like browser to a html configuration page of a router . . . ???
[13:00] <MeanEYE> akem: You need to have a bigger partition, other than that I don't see a problem with hibernation. It's basically saving RAM to swap partition and shutting down the system.
[13:00] <ikonia> MeanEYE: the problem is certain hardware devices cause a problem for hibernation,.
[13:01] <akem> MeanEYE, ok, i though it had to do with HW specific proprietary low level stuff...
[13:01] <MeanEYE> akem: Am not sure about that then.
[13:01] <MeanEYE> ikonia: I didn't know that. Thanks.
[13:02] <MeanEYE> parapan: I just found out that Elinks and Links2 support javascript. Check them out.
[13:02] <parapan> MeanEYE: cool man > thanks for that info ...let me check
[13:02] <lolmaus> I want user "nginxer" to run "/etc/init.d/nginx" with root priveleges. What should i add into visudo?
[13:02] <MeanEYE> No problem. They also have some basick images support.
[13:02] <MeanEYE> parapan: Not sure how they managed to do that :) though.
[13:03] <parapan> MeanEYE: I'll let you know in a minute
[13:03] <guest1987> geirha, i think i found the source, ekiga, if you remove it then i also removes the gnome-desktop-environment package as well!
[13:04] <geirha> guest1987: Yikes!
[13:05] <dr_willis> remives what package exactly?
[13:05] <guest1987> is there someone i should report this to?
[13:06] <guest1987> im just checking again now, but that looks like the fella the remove the gnome-desktop
[13:06] <MeanEYE> guest1987: Can you repeat your problem. I didn't see it.
[13:06] <ikonia> guest1987: that's just a meta package
[13:06] <ikonia> guest1987: it's not actually removed gnome desktop
[13:06] <dr_willis> ubuntu-desktop is a meta packge.  may be rhe same for gnome-desktoo
[13:07] <dr_willis> so its not an issue really
[13:07] <ikonia> dr_willis: spot on
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> ikonia: so if it says gnome-desktop will be removed, i don't need to worry?
[13:07] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: correct
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> how nice
[13:08] <geirha> guest1987: Well, that seems to just be an empty package that depends on a whole lot. You could grab its list of dependancies and install all of those, except the few you don't want I guess.
[13:08] <dr_willis> ekiga is just part of the standard gome install
[13:09] <parapan> MeanEYE: Nope ...none of them does-it ....................grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[13:09] <MeanEYE> parapan: Then the problem might not be in JavaScript support.
[13:09] <ztrek7> Good morning all!
[13:09] <rog> hi
[13:09] <parapan> MeanEYE: could be . . .
[13:10] <Dmole> parapan: do you have a normal computer you can use?
[13:10] <Dmole> parapan: because I would just use my desktop with a SOCKS proxy
[13:10] <graingert> mtlife: unity --reset
[13:10] <guest1987> ok so if i start from the beginning :- i did a fresh install of 10.04.3 then made some changes to the installed software and gui, once complete i did an update and this required a reboot, once rebooted i am unable to login as im just returned to login. i did an [alt+fN] logged in and found xsession.errors did a google and came up with bug 170756 reinstall gnome-desktop-env, that worked and i can login fine, only ther
[13:10] <guest1987> e is a load of software that i dont want! after removing ekiga im prompted to remove extra packke gnome-desktop-env! which looks like im find and can login but am missing the logout button on the right!
[13:11] <mtlife> graingert: yes that works, but after a reboot the unity launcher is again gone
[13:11] <Dmole> parapan: ssh -fND localhost:8080 user@computer
[13:11] <graingert> mtlife: hmm
[13:12] <parapan> Dmole > nope, I'm remote from location .....I have the router in the middle and a linux server after the router .....now I'm on the server  .....and NEED the config file of the router to open a normal desktop computer ......
[13:12] <graingert> guest1987: gnome-desktop-env depends on ekiga
[13:12] <guest1987> but im sure that apt-get remove ekiga should not remove all the other stuff that it does!
[13:12] <rog> i've just been trying to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 with do-release-upgrade and the upgrade has come up with an error:
[13:12] <rog> Reading package lists... 0%
[13:12] <rog> Reading package lists... 0%
[13:12] <rog> Reading package lists... 6%
[13:12] <FloodBot1> rog: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:12] <parapan> Dmole: could you pls explain the command ?
[13:12] <graingert> guest1987: it should - also change your nick
[13:13] <Dmole> parapan: the proxy should work for you. also if the goal is to find info on another you could just use namp etc
[13:13] <Johnny_Giggles> Damn it's very hard to make an expression evaluator
[13:14] <mtlife> graingert: any other ideas?
[13:14] <M1N1Me> Thanks guys for removing bugs, I'm quite happy
[13:14] <graingert> mtlife: try unity-2d is compiz is failing
[13:14] <Dmole> parapan: the command makes your desktop browser use the computer behind the router to browse, thus you can get into the router
[13:14] <graingert> if*
[13:14] <mtlife> graingert: unity has always worked, it stopped working when I installed lxde and tried that once
[13:15] <romanoff> rus
[13:15] <Dmole> parapan: the command allows you to browse from any location you can ssh to "from your desktop"
[13:15] <romanoff> !help
[13:15] <parapan> Dmole: but the desktop is not open ......the server is open and the server doesn't have X installed
[13:15] <mtlife> graingert: it even now works, but it refuses to launch properly after a reboot. I always have to launch a terminal and unity --replace or --reset
[13:16] <parapan> Dmole: ok, and the command should be run in the terminal ? or direct in the browser ???
[13:18] <Dmole> parapan: 1) from a desktop run the command in the terminal replacing the user@computer with something valid. 2) set your browser to use localhost:8080 as a SOCKS proxy, 3) browse
[13:18] <Dmole> parapan: if you have a windows desktop you can do the same with putty
[13:19] <parapan> Dmole: you may have a point .....does it work even if I'm remote ? over internet and not in the local network ??
[13:19] <Dmole> parapan: yes that is the whole point
[13:20] <parapan> and user@computer ...shoul be user of the server ....and computer = the remote server correct ??
[13:20] <Dmole> however you normaly ssh to the server
[13:21] <Dmole> you can use it to browse from other countries etc
[13:21] <Dmole> but your goal was just to find the IP of some other computer?
[13:22] <parapan> Dmole: what shoul i insert on the SOCKS proxy ???
[13:22] <parapan> Dmole: what host ?
[13:22] <Dmole> localhot or 127.0.0.1 they are normaly the same
[13:22] <rog> i'm very sorry if all those accidentally pasted lines went through into this channel...
[13:22] <parapan> Dmole: yes the ip and other information configured only on the router side
[13:23] <Dmole> "set your browser to use localhost:8080 as a SOCKS proxy"
[13:23] <parapan> Dmole: got-it finally :D
[13:24] <Dmole> parapan: if the other computer is on it knows it's own IP and you can find it with "nmap 192.168.0.0/24" assuming that is your network ip base
[13:24] <parapan> Dmole: YOU ARE a genius my man >>>> all my respect goes to you !!!!
[13:24] <sweb> my windows and linux crash when i want to restart ? also xp and windows 7 and ubuntu ? i think my hardware have a problem ? which part of hardware may be damaged ?
[13:25] <parapan> Dmole: it the best thing I've learned in the last 6 weeks :D
[13:26] <Dmole> parapan: what did you learn 7 weeks ago?
[13:26] <compdoc> sweb, how old is the system?
[13:26] <saml> hey, I want to mount a drive as current user when the user logs in
[13:26] <saml> how can I do that?
[13:27] <saml> not during the boot.. but when a user logs in
[13:27] <sweb> compdoc, Asus Netbook 904HD not to old. it work some days ago well. it can be damaged by virus ? bios problem or etc ... ?
[13:27] <Dmole> sweb: try pastebin-ing somelog files from linux
[13:28] <compdoc> sweb, that came with windows xp? I would think it came with win7
[13:28] <parapan> Dmole:  not much :D ---I was saying 6 months ago .....different command but not so important as this one .....I have to look a little bit deep inside the gomand you gave me .....it's worth like gold :D
[13:28] <sweb> compdoc, all os. i thinks it's a hardware problem ... but i dont know which part !
[13:28] <Dmole> saml: make sure it's in fstab but set to not auto mount then make a login script to un/mount it for that user
[13:29] <jrib> saml: what's your reason for wanting to do this?
[13:30] <saml> jrib, for a specific user (myself), I want to have the drive available.
[13:30] <docboy> is there anyone here using pclinuxos?
[13:30] <saml> otherwise, I have to go to Places > and click the drive to mount
[13:30] <sweb> compdoc,Dmole. just puppy linux can be loaded but another version have a many error during loading
[13:30] <jrib> saml: ok, why don't you just mount it at boot?
[13:30] <saml> how do I do that?
[13:30] <jrib> !fstab | saml
[13:30] <saml> it has to be rw  for myself
[13:30] <Dmole> !pastebin sweb
[13:30] <saml> no gui for this?
[13:31] <jrib> saml: better to just read that page; it's pretty straightforward
[13:31] <saml> the thing is /media/data  isn't created.  but it's created when I  click Places > data
[13:31] <Dmole> !pastebin |sweb
[13:31] <jrib> saml: yes, so you create it
[13:31] <saml> as root? I'm confused with permission
[13:31] <Peter_Bilt> can i install a tunnel borker with bunutu?
[13:32] <jrib> saml: read the page.  After you are done, ask questions about anything you aren't sure about
[13:32] <Peter_Bilt> internet connection sharing with a tunnelborker?
[13:32] <saml> i'm not sysadmin. i'm just a user. why so hard?
[13:32] <Peter_Bilt> my friend is a good boy
[13:32] <Peter_Bilt> he has a hurricanic tunnel
[13:32] <jrib> Peter_Bilt: do you have an actual ubuntu support question?
[13:33] <Dmole> Peter_Bilt: as in how to set up NAT?
[13:34] <Peter_Bilt> ipv4 nat but of course no ipv6 nat
[13:35] <Peter_Bilt> IPV6 routing with ubuntu using a tunnel provider as gw
[13:35] <Peter_Bilt> in my airport express its very easy to do that
[13:35] <Peter_Bilt> it just needs 3 entries
[13:36] <metabill> hey people. I'd like to safely downgrade the package 'ifupdown' from the admin section. what is the right way to do so?
[13:36] <rog> upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10 i got this error message: Exception during pm.DoInstall():  E:Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python-pyatspi2'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[13:36] <Dmole> Peter_Bilt: van you link to the IPV6 spec for that?
[13:36] <Pici> rog : Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[13:36] <Peter_Bilt> its not my link
[13:36] <rog> Pici: ok
[13:36] <Peter_Bilt> its a friends computers stuff
[13:36] <Peter_Bilt> he has a natty dread on the machine
[13:36] <Selassie> hehe
[13:37] <Selassie> natty dread
[13:37] <Peter_Bilt> yeah ur chapel
[13:37] <Dmole> Peter_Bilt: I asked for a link to the spesification not the friends computer
[13:37] <parapan> Dmole: thanks a lot man for support and for taking the time !!!
[13:37] <Peter_Bilt> hoden.dyndns.tv is the link
[13:37] <Dmole> parapan, np, have fun
[13:37] <Selassie> natty dread on the machine
[13:37] <Selassie> that's hilarious
[13:37] <metabill> natty dread a whe she wan'
[13:37] <Peter_Bilt> yeah cool song
[13:38] <Selassie> yah mon
[13:38] <Selassie> wha gwaan far I
[13:38] <IdleOne> !ot
[13:38] <Dmole> Peter_Bilt: please try to understand better before replying
[13:38] <Peter_Bilt> sorry master idleOne
[13:40] <Peter_Bilt> ah i tried to explain he has internet connection sharing, and he wants to install a ipv6 routing capability for the clients
[13:41] <ztrek7> Selassie, did that work for you yesterday?
[13:41] <Selassie> No
[13:41] <Selassie> I'm now trying to fix it.
[13:42] <ztrek7> doh!
[13:43] <Peter_Bilt> i think i get it
[13:43] <Peter_Bilt> i have to play arkanoid and then i will fix it
[13:44] <cgc> hi everyone
[13:45] <kayaman> sellasie
[13:46] <Selassie> yah?
[13:47] <Guest7164> need help in recovering a deleted partition
[13:47] <cgc> I've come up against possibly the strangest problem I have ever faced in IT, this will explain it faster and better than words can: http://paste.ubuntu.com/690806/
[13:47] <karlhunt> Does anyone know of any instructions/projects relating to media buttons on wired headsets? ie click to pause etc?
[13:47] <cgc> I really can't think of anything I have missed
[13:48] <escott> Guest7164, testdisk
[13:49] <Peter_Bilt> lol
[13:49] <Guest7164> tried testdisk and photorec, got stuck in the middle , anyother ?
[13:49] <escott> Guest7164, if you know the geometry of the partition you can just restore it with fdisk, but if you dont know the geometry read it off testdisk output
[13:51] <Dmole> Guest7164: dd the whole thing first to make a backup
[13:51] <cgc> ok i missed something, let me just do another paste...
[13:52] <Guest7164> you mean i can restore the partition table?
[13:52] <escott> Guest7164, removing a partition only removes the entry from the partition table. if you know the values you can just restore it
[13:52] <Dmole> Guest7164: also there is and ext rescue, and a bunch of tools on backtrack
[13:53] <Guest7164> dmole :cli apps or gui?
[13:53] <Dmole> Guest7164: most are both
[13:53] <cgc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/690809/
[13:54] <Guest7164> ok i will try both of your solutions  and i will be back
[13:54] <qin> Guest7164: testdisk
[13:55] <Guest7164> testdisk didnt work for me
[13:56] <Dmole> often people forget to "apply changes" with testdisk~
[14:01] <Peter_Bilt> ubuntu the fall guy edition
[14:05] <hippo> hello i have a question i know this is the wrong channel but since its still an ubuntu i figure you guys might no but i just installed kubuntu and on windows 7 when i upluged my battery i always had 3 1/2 hours and well with kubuntu i have only barely2  showing is this usual? if not would anyone know how to fix it
[14:06] <jpmh> I have just plugged a planar touch screen into my computer - dmesg tells me that it sees it and I have loaded the evtouch driver - still not able to touch the screen - what am I missing?
[14:06] <cgc> a finger :P
[14:07] <MeanEYE> Haha, good one cgc :)
[14:07] <flasomm> hello all, is anyone knows a tool to keep copy and repaste results store in a stack ?
[14:07] <MeanEYE> jpmh: USB?
[14:07] <jpmh> cgc:  LOL
[14:07] <jpmh> MeanEYE:  yes - usb
[14:07] <luist> how do i prevent my ubuntu from locking the screen or sleeping?
[14:07] <MeanEYE> jpmh: does lsusb sees it?
[14:08] <MeanEYE> luist: There's an option for that in screensaver and power management. Screensaver controls the locking, power management for sleeping.
[14:08] <tomodachi> luist: those are two different questions: disable sleep in powermanagement, disable password in  screensaver settings
[14:09] <marw> hello. i'm trying to make hibernation work on ubuntu 11. i have nonencrypted swap, but enc. home. i have set up grub and initramfs. i can put it into hibernation, but after turning it on, it behaves like it was turned off completely. any tips?
[14:09] <jpmh> MeanEYE:  yes0 sees it as Quanta Computer Inc
[14:10] <luist> tomodachi, its already set to never in powermanagement but it stills lock my screen/sleep after some minutes
[14:11] <MeanEYE> jpmh: So to summarise, screen is working but not reacting to touch?
[14:11] <jpmh> MeanEYE:  YES - very sucinct
[14:11] <luist> tomodachi, ok nvm i got it
[14:11] <jpmh> MeanEYE:  and I would add that dmesg and lsusb both show it
[14:12] <MeanEYE> jpmh: can you give me the complete model?
[14:12] <tyler_d> I am trying to create a startup disk to a folder rather than to a removable device; any help would be fantastic :)
[14:12] <jpmh> MeanEYE:  planar px2230mw
[14:13] <MeanEYE> jpmh: did you install drivers?
[14:13] <jpmh> I installed the evtouch driver - that's all
[14:14] <MeanEYE> jpmh: Am looking ad planar.com and they have section for Linux Touch Screen Drivers. Did you get them from there?
[14:14] <jpmh> MeanEYE:  evtouch yes - nothing else - never needed anything else when using them in the past - what else may I need
[14:14] <MeanEYE> jpmh: Oh, so the screen worked but it's not working now?
[14:15] <lehigh> whether I entered in IRC??
[14:15] <jpmh> MeanEYE:  I did not get from there - no - THIS screen has never worked, have always used ELO in the past
[14:15] <jpmh> MeanEYE:  can you give me the URL for the drivers you are finding at planar - I thought I had searched their site
[14:16] <MeanEYE> jpmh: Let me just check if site is right.
[14:18] <nimbiotics> Hello all. Is there a GUI for testing and calibrating a joystick in ubuntu 11.04?? TIA!
[14:19] <MeanEYE> jpmh: Gah, they don't have drivers for Linux for that display. :(
[14:19] <arnierules> good afternoon folks
[14:19] <jpmh> MeanEYE:  I woukd add that it appears to be there in lshal too
[14:20] <MeanEYE> jpmh: It seems to me that you need to configure your X. But am not good at that. Maybe someone here could help you.
[14:20] <jpmh> MeanEYE:  but even so - the input device is just an input device - what am I missing here - the screen looks fine
[14:20] <Woet> what's the md5 sum for ubuntu 11.04 server 64 bit?
[14:20] <Woet> help.ubuntu.com is down
[14:20] <solofight> people how do i open a port in ubuntu ? when i do a nmap it says 8090 closed
[14:20] <solofight> how do i open it ?
[14:20] <MeanEYE> jpmh: I don't think X sees it as an input device, what does `xinput list` say?
[14:21] <zykotick9_> nimbiotics, i wouldn't personally recommend any of the GUI joystick software (I've personally had issues) but YMMV.  FYI you should see your joystick(s) as /dev/input/js0 js1 etc.  to test the system sees them you can open a terminal and "cat /dev/input/js0" then press buttons/move sticks to get character feedback that it's working.  jscal is a cli tool to calibrate sticks (not easy to use however).  Best of luck.
[14:21] <Dmole> solofight: disable firewall and tell some application to listen to the port
[14:21] <solofight> Dmole, understood
[14:22] <solofight> thank you
[14:22] <solofight> Dmole,++
[14:22] <nimbiotics> zykotick9_: THX ... what does YMMV mean?
[14:22] <zykotick9_> nimbiotics, sorry "Your Milage May Vary" meaning, you may have different results.
[14:23] <nimbiotics> zykotick9_: well, if by milage u mean by xperience with linux==0 :)
[14:23] <oCean> Woet: I can load the page without problems. 11.04/server/amd64.iso: 355ca2417522cb4a77e0295bf45c5cd5
[14:26] <stimpie> I have a statement: if(seq%count==rank) continue;  in some cases the final variabeles are  count =1 and rank =0.   The statement will therefor always be true.   Will the hotspot compiler optimize this?
[14:26] <zykotick9_> nimbiotics, just an FYI (For Your Information), many games/emulators still look to for the old /dev/js0 location and you have to specify in the game's config to look for /dev/input/js0
[14:27] <jpmh> MeanEYE:  have you given up on me - reason I ask is I am considering a re-boot and so will lose this session
[14:27] <MeanEYE> jpmh: I didn't. I asked what `xinput list` command gives you. Is your display there?
[14:28] <Phr3d13> how would i quickly find all pieces/parts of pcsx2 so i can start over installing it?
[14:30] <arnierules> Guys, i have a fat32  usb-stick, should i format it with ntfs? or is that a bad idea for Linux?
[14:31] <Phr3d13> arnierules, as long as you have the ntfs-3g package installed, you should be good
[14:31] <arnierules> Phredie > does the latest Ubuntu have that?
[14:32] <vibhav> arnierules,  Use Fat-32
[14:32] <Phr3d13> arnierules, should be in the repos, search the software center for ntfs-3g
[14:32] <cvam> what is the advantage of Vim editor over GUI text editors
[14:32] <vibhav> arnierules, If you are not going to use it in WIndows then stick to fat-32
[14:32] <magentar> fat-32 is more secure with linux
[14:33] <arnierules> got it. Thanks for the feedback guys :)
[14:33] <IdleOne> ntfs is supported OTB has been for a couple of releases in Ubuntu ircc
[14:33] <aperson> is there a tmux equivalent to screen -ls ?
[14:33] <vibhav> cvam -  syntax highlighting?
[14:34] <Phr3d13> i coulda swore i hadda install the ntfs-3g package myself
[14:34] <prod_> Hi guys, Im having trouble with gparted and resizing a NTFS partition. I saved the error message and i have "ERROR: 2930 clusters are referenced multiply times." In the error report it says to go to windows and do chkdsk /f but my windows OS just flakes out when i try to use the hdd in any way. I ran chkdsk /f  on installation disc and it completed but the problem is not solved .Any help would be hugely appreciated
[14:34] <vibhav> cvam, easy copying and pasting
[14:34] <zykotick9_> prod_, i'd recommend using Windows to try fixing Windows File System errors
[14:35] <dougl> how do I switch from unity to the old desktop that does not hide things?
[14:35] <vibhav> cvam http://paste.ubuntu.com/690848/
[14:35] <prod_> linux is the only thing that doesnt flake out when i connect the hdd
[14:36] <zykotick9_> !classic | dougl
[14:36] <Woet> let's try again
[14:36] <Woet> what's the md5 sum for ubuntu 11.04 server 64 bit? help.ubuntu.com is down
[14:36] <vibhav> prod_,  what do you mean by flakes?
[14:36] <magentar> prod_, i would copy the files to another drive and simply delete the partition
[14:36] <arnierules> dougle > at the logon screen there should be options at the very bottom of the screen, select "classic" there
[14:36] <Phr3d13> dougl, log out, click your name, before you type your password, look at the bottom of the screen for a drop down box, pick "classic"
[14:36] <cvam> vibhav:I'm in  dilemma  that whether vim or any IDE is best to programming
[14:36]  * dougl like the money back guarantee that comes with ubuntu.
[14:36] <vibhav> cvam - are you new to this stuff?
[14:36] <prod_> sorry pure terminology, laggs out. freezes
[14:36] <prod_> poor*
[14:36] <cvam> yes
[14:36] <Phr3d13> how would i quickly find all pieces/parts of pcsx2 so i can start over installing it?
[14:37] <dougl> zykotick9_, Phr3d13 thanks guys
[14:37] <cvam> vibhav:yes
[14:37] <magentar> prod_, sounds like the drive might be damaged
[14:37] <escott> prod_, sounds like you are SOL, better get your backups
[14:37] <vibhav> Woet  355ca2417522cb4a77e0295bf45c5cd5 ubuntu-11.04-server-amd64.iso
[14:37] <SlimG_> How do I checkout a subdirectory in a launchpad branch with bzr? bzr co lp:project/i/want/this/directory #doesn't seem to work
[14:37] <Woet> thanks vibhav
[14:37] <vibhav> cvam then use an IDE
[14:37] <prod_> http://pastebin.com/ktpG7shC
[14:37] <vibhav> cvam - which language?
[14:37] <vibhav> woet - No problem!
[14:38] <cvam> vibhav: java
[14:38] <prod_> dammit :S
[14:38] <Logan_> cvam: NetBeans
[14:38] <zykotick9_> Phr3d13, depends on how you installed it.  Did you install using DEB file (if so use package manager to remove)?  If you installed by copying a binary file to a location (delete the files).  If you installed for source code (i have no idea, good luck).
[14:38] <dnivra> SlimG_: this is ubuntu support. head to #bzr for help on bzr. and it's "bzr branch" BTW.
[14:38] <prod_> its in a usb caddy so im not too suprised if im honest
[14:38] <vibhav> cvam - Use Eclipse IDE
[14:38] <vibhav> cvam : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseIDE
[14:39] <Phr3d13> well i guess i'm stuck searching for "pcsx2" in nautilus and deleting anything not on my win partition
[14:40] <SlimG_> thanks dnivra
[14:40] <administrator> hi there
[14:41] <cvam> I'm not completely new to linux or java. I want to study learn both in detail
[14:41] <Guest93099> i have an ssh problem can anyone help
[14:41] <Guest93099> port 22 ssh connection refused
[14:41] <compdoc> what user name are you using?
[14:42] <zHammeRz> try starting sshd
[14:42] <cgc> Guest93099: do you have a firewall? is sshd actually running?
[14:42] <cgc> Guest93099: ps ax | grep ssh
[14:42] <cgc> zHammeRz: a reboot worked! I feel so stupid :P
[14:42] <Guest93099> yeah started ssh
[14:42] <zHammeRz> cgc, rofl
[14:43] <Guest93099> i have firestrter fire wall
[14:43] <zHammeRz> that is what we'll call a fragmented routing table lol
[14:43] <cgc> lol
[14:43] <Woet> i'm getting "there was a problem reading data from the CD-rom"
[14:43] <Woet> md5sum is correct and it's a mounted ISO, so the cd is not damaged
[14:43] <mattmurray28> hey guys, Ubuntu sees my wifi network, but when i click connect it wont, help please?
[14:43] <zHammeRz> Woet, well, may have a defective cd/dvd rom reader?
[14:43] <Woet> zHammeRz: it's a mounted ISO.
[14:44] <zHammeRz> oh
[14:44] <zHammeRz> then idk
[14:44] <dean__> Hi does anyone know if there is a program you can use to split cue files in Ubuntu?
[14:44] <Woet> dean__: split them into equal sizes, or split them into it's parts, or what?
[14:44] <Woet> mattmurray28: more information? any error? what happens when you click it?
[14:45] <dean__> Woet, Well the file is flac but it is only one track and there is a cue file which from past experience you can split the tracks one by one?
[14:45] <zteam> Hello
[14:46] <Guest93099> i allowed fire wall for port 22 allow with specific ip
[14:46] <Era> dean__: http://aidanjm.wordpress.com/2007/02/15/split-lossless-audio-ape-flac-wv-wav-by-cue-file/
[14:47] <cgc> Guest93099: can you telnet to the ip on port 22? 'telnet [ip] 22'
[14:47] <Phr3d13> Guest93099, did you forward the port on your router?
[14:47] <zteam> I need some help, I have a package here which require libc6 => 2.3.6-6 but my installed version is 2.13, how can I fix this?
[14:47] <jrib> zteam: what package
[14:47] <dean__> Era, Thanks
[14:47] <Era> np
[14:48] <cgc> Guest93099: if not can you telnet to that port from the machine itself? so on the machine running sshd run 'telnet 127.0.0.1 22' and 'telnet [ip] 22'
[14:48] <Wild> Anyone not afk?
[14:48] <dougl> does anyone here use skype?
[14:48] <jrib> Wild: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[14:48] <jrib> dougl: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[14:48] <zteam> jrib, xboxburner, from this site: http://sourceforge.net/projects/xboxburner/files/
[14:49] <Guest93099> no can;t telnet>> unable to connect to remote host:connection refused
[14:49] <dougl> jrib, isn't that what I did?
[14:49] <MeanEYE> dougl: I avoid it like a plague. :)
[14:49] <Wild> I'm trying to setup my server allow people to connect via port 80 (with lamp installed) and people cant connect to my wesbite outside my network.
[14:49] <cgc> Guest93099: from the machine running sshd itself?
[14:49] <dougl> MeanEYE, why such strong feelings?
[14:49] <jrib> dougl: the answer to your question is "yes".  You probably have something you want to ask after that.  You should just ask that
[14:49] <Guest93099> yes
[14:49] <Wild> I have my port forwarded, and ip tables is setup, and apache is set to port 80.
[14:49] <cgc> Guest93099: on localhost as well?
[14:49] <Guest93099> ok will try
[14:50] <dougl> jrib, not really just curious how popular it was in the ubuntu community.
[14:50] <jrib> Wild: if you can connect within your local network, then it's an issue with your portforwarding
[14:50] <cgc> Guest93099: whats the output of 'lsof | grep -i listen | grep -i ssh'?
[14:50] <jrib> dougl: this channel is for support then, please don't ask those types of questions here
[14:51] <Wild> I have port 80-81 forwarded on TCP (via linksys router). The range is set to work on the machine that it's connected to.
[14:51] <MeanEYE> dougl: Because it's a spyware. People cought them dumping bios and sending data to the mothership. Besides, they don't like Linux very much. Every two years you get a minor bugfix update. On the other side Google Talk provides me with same options, better quality and lower bandwidth. Plus plugin is regulary updated and even if you don't wish to use it Pidgin and Empathy can make audio/video calls with their own libraries.
[14:51] <mofaph> Hi, all. How to change the keyboard layout on console? My system is ubuntu 10.04.
[14:52] <Phr3d13> anyone know the easiest way to install pcsx2 on a 64 bit ubuntu?
[14:52] <dougl> jrib, err - ok... prolly get the same advice asking who uses ubuntu in the skype channel?
[14:52] <jrib> mofaph: loadkeys or setxkbmap depending on where you are
[14:52] <cgc> dougl: i second MeanEYE's opinion
[14:52] <jrib> dougl: I don't know what that channel's policies are
[14:52] <Wild> I have port 80-81 forwarded on TCP (via linksys router). The range is set to work on the machine that it's connected to.
[14:53] <MeanEYE> Wild: what's the problem?
[14:53] <dougl> MeanEYE, cgc thanks for the info guys - we better stop talking about it now before I get us in trouble.
[14:53] <jrib> zteam: I'd suggest building your own package from the tar.bz2 then
[14:53] <Wild> I'm trying to setup my server allow people to connect via port 80 (with lamp installed) and people cant connect to my wesbite outside my network.
[14:53] <Wild> I have port 80-81 forwarded on TCP (via linksys router). The range is set to work on the machine that it's connected to.
[14:53] <Wild> I'm trying to setup my server allow people to connect via port 80 (with lamp installed) and people cant connect to my wesbite outside my network.
[14:53] <mofaph> jrib: I don't have root permition.
[14:53] <Travis-42> How do I reset the unity tray on the left? it's visually messed up and I think needs to be restarted
[14:54] <MeanEYE> Wild: do you have public IP address?
[14:54] <jrib> mofaph: you want to make this change in X?
[14:54] <Wild> I'd call it public, yes.
[14:54] <MeanEYE> dougl: :) Agreed. There is a channel named #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:54] <Guest93099> netstat -punta says ssh is listening
[14:54] <MeanEYE> Wild: are you sure it's public or you think it's public?
[14:54] <mofaph> jrib: I already change it in X using xmodmap, but I can't do it under console, press Ctrl-Alt-Fn to enter.
[14:55] <zteam> jrib, Well I got it to install but it crashes as soon as I'm about to write the Disc
[14:55] <Wild> Meaneye what is considered public?
[14:55] <jrib> zteam: how did you get it to install?
[14:55] <Wild> Its the IP to my network
[14:55] <MeanEYE> Wild: When you go to www.whatismyip.com... pinging that IP should ping your router.
[14:55] <Wild> Thats what the IP it set at
[14:56] <MeanEYE> Wild: Public IP means you are not behind you IPS's NAT or something.
[14:56] <Wild> People can connect through other ports
[14:56] <Wild> yes, them im public
[14:56] <MeanEYE> Wild: Did you set up web server properly? Opening http://localhost works?
[14:56] <Wild> localhost doesnt work. but if i go to my IP or the domain I set to the IP
[14:56] <zteam> jrib, I did sudo dpkg --force-architecture -i xboxburner.deb
[14:56] <Wild> it works
[14:57] <Wild> 	Filter Internet NAT Redirection  is not enabled either
[14:57] <mofaph> jrib: If I get root permission, sudo loadkeys ~/.keymap works fine. (~/.keymap is keyboard layout I define)
[14:57] <zteam> jrib, since it is for i386 (I'm using the 64-bit ubuntu version)
[14:57] <jrib> zteam: see if your error persists if you install from the tar.gz
[14:57] <MeanEYE> Wild: I think I misunderstood you. So where is this web server located. On your own machine? Or is it a separate machine?
[14:57] <voob_of_doom> anybody knows where does gparted read a 600GB filesystem in? the box only has 8gb ram and 40gb hdd, gparted keeps going (iotop -o shows only reads)... very interesting
[14:58] <jrib> mofaph: I don't know offhand how to change layout in console without root access
[14:58] <Wild> On my own machine
[14:58] <Wild> not this one, but off my computer, im using putty to control it
[14:59] <Wild> My Domain (sent to my IP via A record) ekolyte.com connects to the website on MY network. http://localhost doesn't work. when I try a port checker, port 80 doesnt work.
[14:59] <Wild> I'm forwards based on my router info too.
[14:59] <Wild> forwarded*
[15:00] <compdoc> http://localhost doesn't work for what?
[15:00] <compdoc> can you connect from the lan?
[15:00] <MeanEYE> compdoc: He has problems routing ports to his server and am trying to guess his configuration.
[15:01] <Wild> Ask me anything you want to know, Ill give you everything you need... probably better to PM me
[15:02] <zteam> jrib, okey, will try
[15:02] <jrib> mofaph: if you read « man loadkeys » it has some discussion about the reasons for only root being able to change console layout
[15:03] <compdoc> can you connect from the lan?
[15:03] <iceroot> i have an encrypted /home/user, i want to automaticly mount my sd-card into ~/Movies, the problem is that the system is trying to mount the sd-card while mounting (using fstab) at that point there is no /home/user. what are my possibility to mount the sd-card automaticly? a logon-script?
[15:04] <mofaph> jrib: OK, I am reading it.
[15:04] <jrib> iceroot: mount it somewhere outside your home and create a symlink called ~/Movies pointing to the mount point
[15:04] <Pici> iceroot: You could mount your sd-card elsewhere and put a symlink at ~Movies instead.
[15:04] <th0r> iceroot: put the mount command into .bashrc or .profile for the user, that way it won't be executed until after the user logs in
[15:05] <iceroot> th0r: but everytime i open the bash it will try to mount again
[15:05] <MeanEYE> iceroot: Cards and other medias are mounted either on /mnt or /media. So my suggestion is to mount it there.
[15:05] <iceroot> jrib: Pici sounds good, thanks
[15:05] <tarmstrong> hi everyone, my laptop keeps freezing randomly, and I'm looking for help troubleshooting the problem.
[15:05] <th0r> iceroot: I think there is a .bash_login as well....been a long time since I messed with it
[15:05] <iceroot> th0r: ah ok
[15:06] <th0r> iceroot: or it might have been .profile....one of those only executes one time
[15:06] <phong_> hi guys
[15:06] <iceroot> MeanEYE: then i will mount it ti /media/ and then put a symlink to ~/Movies after login
[15:07] <graingert> is it possible to add a custom download server to ubuntu eg in the "Choose a Download Server" dialogue
[15:07] <tarmstrong> I'm running ubuntu 11.04 on a thinkpad x220, and the display keeps freezing. I can't even ctrl-alt-f1 into a terminal.
[15:07] <th0r> iceroot: you could also put the mount command into a script and execute it at login ... in xfce it is Sessions and Startup
[15:07] <iceroot> th0r: yes that was what i mean with logon-script :)
[15:07] <MeanEYE> iceroot: That will work easily.
[15:08] <th0r> iceroot: that might be the best bet. It would be a simple two line script
[15:09] <iceroot> th0r: the other way is to put the mount in the startup-part. at that point there is a ~
[15:09] <tarmstrong> I can't find anything in the logs either. Does anyone know where I should look to pinpoint the problem?
[15:09] <graingert> tarmstrong: have you set any custom compiz settings?
[15:09] <graingert> tarmstrong: and have you tried running with unity2D
[15:09] <th0r> iceroot: right, but I think you will have to use the full path instead of ~
[15:09] <graingert> instead of compiz
[15:09] <iceroot> th0r: hm but that i have to umout it, because ubuntu will umount my ~ and encrpyt it
[15:10] <iceroot> th0r: not if it is /bin/bash
[15:10] <iceroot> th0r: i will use the symlink so i dont have to umount it when umounting home
[15:11] <robert05_hu> hi
[15:11] <graingert> robert05_hu: hyea
[15:11] <iceroot> when is /etc/fstab read? only at boot? so i have to reboot to see if my changes are correct?
[15:11] <jrib> iceroot: you can run « mount -a »
[15:11] <Selassie> !nl
[15:12] <iceroot> jrib: thx
[15:12] <tarmstrong> graingert: no custom compiz settings. unity2d -- where can I find information on it?
[15:14] <luis_> Does anyone know if ITunes works on ubuntu ?
[15:15] <tarmstrong> graingert: nevermind, found it. Is there any way I could determine whether or not Unity's OpenGL stuff is the problem?
[15:15] <xangua> luis_ does not
[15:15] <vaishakh_em>  i get plugin error messages on transferring my joomla site to another computer.. what might be the reason ?
[15:15] <luis_> Thanks
[15:15] <iceroot> !ipod | luis_
[15:15] <graingert> tarmstrong: compiz crash handlers etc
[15:15] <xangua> !appdb | luis_
[15:15] <xangua> if you mean wine, cheche database
[15:15] <iceroot> vaishakh_em: what is the error?
[15:15] <graingert> tarmstrong: to check to see if it's not any of your settings you can run unity --reset
[15:16] <iceroot> xangua: not working with wine
[15:17] <gabrielht44> Hola, Por favor necesito ayuda, no logro configurar el sonido de mi PVR-TV 305U (usb para TV)
[15:17] <ikonia> !es | gabrielht44
[15:18] <graingert> tarmstrong: see what thinkwiki has to say about your thinkpad
[15:18] <gabrielht44> ubottu,  Gracias
[15:19] <tdk-er> Hi, I'm in hte live
[15:19] <tdk-er> Hi, I'm in the live and i downloaded the iso and i've to burn it, how can do it?
[15:20] <ikonia> tdk-er: it's not easy if you are using the CD drive
[15:20] <tarmstrong> graingert: if it was compiz crashing, would that prevent me from ctl-alt-f1'ing into a terminal?
[15:20] <tdk-er> ikonia: how can I do?
[15:20] <ikonia> tdk-er: you can't if you're using the CD drive
[15:22] <Saturn2888> When cleaning an SSD off for being unseasoned. How do I write all 1s to it? I figured I might be able to use dd somehow, but there's no /dev/one.
[15:22] <milagre> hello, where can i find one good torrent client to ubuntu?
[15:22] <graingert> Saturn2888: try shred
[15:22] <Pici> !torrent |  milagre
[15:23] <Saturn2888> graingert: ok. Is it pre-installed?
[15:23] <edbian> Saturn2888: most people write 0's from /dev/null/
[15:23] <Saturn2888> edbian: ah. Well I need to write 1s anyway
[15:23] <graingert> edbian: linux optimizes 0 writes
[15:23] <milagre> i already install utorrent but when i try to download one file de progress bar does not work
[15:23] <edbian> graingert: How?
[15:23] <Saturn2888> edbian: 1s clean SSDs. 0s will salt them with data.
[15:24] <edbian> Saturn2888: how?
[15:24] <graingert> milagre: try using an ubuntu app - or go into #wine
[15:24] <graingert> ebian: unalocated = all 0
[15:24] <th0r> milagre: funny, utorrent wasn't in the list you just got
[15:24] <Pici> edbian: /dev/null is a sink, /dev/zero for getting data.
[15:24] <milagre> grainget: thanks
[15:24] <milagre> th0r: patient!
[15:24] <Saturn2888> edbian: it's how flash memory works. 1 = no data.
[15:24] <edbian> Pici: thanks :)
[15:24] <milagre> lol
[15:24] <edbian> Saturn2888: interesting!
[15:25] <graingert> Saturn2888: but because of the wearleveling of ssd's you can't really get data back off them
[15:25] <Saturn2888> graingert: yeah.
[15:25] <milagre> one more question, where i can find one virtual machine free to install in ubuntu? In your point of view what is the better vm machine to work?
[15:26] <Saturn2888> milagre: virtual box
[15:26] <graingert> Saturn2888: I seem to already have shred
[15:26] <milagre> thank you saturno...
[15:26] <graingert> Saturn2888: so I think it's doable
[15:26] <Saturn2888> graingert: Great. I'm booting up linux off a USB drive now to do this.
[15:26] <milagre> the last question...
[15:26] <milagre> what is the best way to recover my root passwd???? lol
[15:26] <Saturn2888> milagre: the other one is VMware Server but it's not really supported and hasn't worked in Firefox since 3.5
[15:26] <Guest57396> Going to sleep!
[15:27] <milagre> thank you Saturn2888
[15:27] <Guest57396> .
[15:27] <escott> milagre, there is no root password, but if you have physical access you can chroot into the machine
[15:28] <Saturn2888> graingert: I see -z in shred, but is there one for writing ones?
[15:28] <milagre> escott: i forgot the root pas... what can i do?
[15:28] <graingert> Saturn2888: dang
[15:28] <vibhav> milagre wait
[15:28] <milagre> vibgav: hahahah
[15:29] <milagre> i will lost my job rsrsr
[15:29] <tyler_d> I am trying to create a startup disk to a folder rather than to a removable device; any help would be fantastic :)
[15:29] <vibhav> milagre keep patience
[15:29] <vibhav> milagre, I am researching
[15:30] <milagre> thank you so much vibhav
[15:30] <graingert> Saturn2888: http://linux.die.net/man/1/scrub
[15:30] <ikonia> milagre: just boot into recovery mode
[15:30] <vibhav> milagre http://paste.ubuntu.com/690896/
[15:30] <dean__> Hi all I have flac files that I need to convert to mp3 320kbps is there a gui program that can do that at all thanks?
[15:30] <th0r> dean__: winff
[15:30] <milagre> oooh god, thank you! i will try it right now!
[15:31] <edbian> dean__: sound converter
[15:31] <dean__> th0r, Is it gui or cli?
[15:31] <ikonia> vibhav: how many times have you been told to not copy and paste things
[15:31] <dean__> edbian, Is that easy to use?
[15:31] <th0r> dean__: gui
[15:31] <ikonia> vibhav: you've just got that from a website, you've not tested that, you've not done it
[15:31] <Selassie> SELASSIE I
[15:31] <edbian> dean__: yes
[15:31] <edbian> dean__: extremely (and it's gui)
[15:31] <edbian> dean__: sudo apt-get install soundconverter
[15:31] <dean__> whats better winff or sound convertor?
[15:32] <th0r> dean__: define 'better'
[15:32] <edbian> dean__: Never used winff.  Found soundconverter and I never needed anything more.
[15:32] <dean__> edbian, Thats all I needed to hear lol
[15:32] <edbian> dean__: :)
[15:32] <graingert> Saturn2888: tr '\000' '\377' < /dev/zero
[15:32] <dean__> georgie
[15:32] <milagre> you are very good guys! comming to brazil please feel free to contact me for one happy hour, teledireito@hotmail.com
[15:32] <IdleOne> vibhav: grub2 now uses the shift key.
[15:32] <edbian> georgie indeead
[15:32] <dean__> Thanks edbian
[15:32] <Saturn2888> Someone just told me that graingert :P. How do I do that to /dev/sda? Haha
[15:33] <dean__> edbian, Sorry was talking on messenger lol
[15:33] <edbian> dean__: sure
[15:33] <graingert> tr '\000' '\377' < /dev/zero | dd of=file
[15:33] <Guest51778> Hello, I want to know how to install Dropbox in my Ubantu
[15:34] <dean__> edbian, CBR is better than VBR am I right?
[15:34] <graingert> Guest51778: hey denis
[15:34] <Saturn2888> graingert: great :0
[15:34] <xangua> Guest51778: go to dropbox.com and follow the instructions
[15:34] <edbian> dean__: I believe so.  VBR is lower quality but is more efficient in bits vs quality
[15:35] <Saturn2888> graingert: 7.2MB/sec. This will take a while :p.
[15:35] <graingert> Saturn2888: nice
[15:35] <dean__> edbian, Ok cool thanks gonna try converting now lol
[15:35] <edbian> dean__: sure
[15:36] <Saturn2888> graingert: Shouldn't writing straight 1s to an SSD be really fast? hahaha. Shoot.
[15:36] <graingert> Saturn2888: it's not writing 1's btw it's writing True's
[15:36] <graingert> Saturn2888: or 255
[15:36] <Saturn2888> graingert: what's the difference?
[15:36] <graingert> Saturn2888: comes out in bytes
[15:36] <graingert> 255 = 0xFF
[15:36] <graingert> 1 = 0x01
[15:37] <Saturn2888> Ok. Hopefully that's the correct way to do it then.
[15:37] <dean__> edbian, It isn't quick I take it lol
[15:37] <Saturn2888> That's pretty crazy
[15:37] <graingert> Saturn2888: not really
[15:37] <vibhav> milagre use shift instead of ESC
[15:37] <Saturn2888> It is to me at least. Glad it's working though!
[15:37] <Saturn2888> 6MB/s ugh. It'll be a while :)
[15:38] <graingert> Saturn2888: why are you doing it?
[15:38] <graingert> seems a bit of SSD abuse
[15:38] <Saturn2888> Because the SSD is seasoned, and I wanna clean it so it's factory fresh so I can install a new OS
[15:38] <graingert> Saturn2888: what's wrong with quickformat?
[15:39] <escott> Saturn2888, if you are just doing a reinstall use hdparm to mark all blocks as free
[15:39] <edbian> dean__: no converter is fast
[15:39] <dean__> edbian, It has worked a charm got my motorhead flacs in mp3 format now your a legen
[15:39] <dean__> legend even lol
[15:39] <edbian> dean__: your welcome!
[15:39] <escott> Saturn2888, man hdparm | grep -C10 trim
[15:39] <Saturn2888> graingert: The drive still contains data. If all chips have 1s instead of 0s, then it will be able to write to anything otherwise it's gonna check if it's been written to, realize it has, read in the data, delete the blocks it needs, then write back over them. This is a huge issue.
[15:39] <dean__> edbian, For future reference as you seem like you know what your doing is there a flac cue splitter gui?
[15:40] <Saturn2888> escott: it doesn't have trim
[15:40] <edbian> dean__: I have never heard of one.  People generally don't edit cue files by hand. Just make a new cue file.
[15:40] <Saturn2888> escott: too old for trim.
[15:40] <jiahui> hello every
[15:40] <escott> Saturn2888, it may not support SATA TRIM but it may support a bulk non-sata trim.
[15:40] <jiahui> i have meet some problems
[15:40] <Saturn2888> escott: I dunno. Also, the mobo doesn't support it.
[15:40] <dean__> edbian, It was one flac file that was the only problem had to use medievil cue splitter in vbox windoze lol
[15:41] <graingert> !question | jiahui
[15:41] <mang0> How do I link an internal drive to /mnt/HDD2? I've got a folder in /mnt/ called HDD2 which was linked to my 2nd internal, but now doesn't seem to be. It won't mount on startup. How do I re-link them?
[15:41] <Saturn2888> escott: It's a Dell Mini 9. A little old for this.
[15:41] <edbian> dean__: mmm, yeah IDK  there might be one
[15:41] <calamari> hi. when I installed 10.04 on my laptop, I had it encrypt my disk. It also used ext4. Maybe there is some breakthrough in checking for ext4, but when it does a disk check, I swear it's not really checking the disk, it's way too quick compared to what I was used to on ext3. If I'm right, is there a way to do a fsck on my ext4 drive?
[15:41] <jrib> mang0: click on the drive in nautilus.  Or if you prefer, set it up so it mounts at boot in fstab (see: /msg ubottu fstab)
[15:41] <dean__> edbian, No worries worth a shot anyway thanks
[15:41] <graingert> calamari: one of the big things of ext4 was a breakthrough in diskchecking
[15:42] <jrib> calamari: one of the features of ext4 is faster fsck
[15:42] <graingert> _much_ faster
[15:42] <mang0> jrib: Fstab, that's it. Thankyou :). jrib: I would just click it in nautilus, but I have errors on startup. Won't boot, unless I press S to skip mounting
[15:42] <calamari> oh good... it seems nearly instantaneous
[15:42] <graingert> calamari: yep
[15:42] <graingert> fancy init
[15:42] <calamari> I was afraid it was just checking some outer shell
[15:42] <calamari> okay thanks :)
[15:42] <graingert> np
[15:43] <jiahui> graingert: my network icon in the panel has disappeared
[15:43] <graingert> jiahui: nohup nm-applet
[15:43] <Saturn2888> escott: It says extremely dangerous. I dunno why it's dangerous, but it's not really very informative on how to use it.
[15:44] <graingert> Saturn2888: dd = disk destroyer
[15:44] <jiahui> graingert: than what should i do ?
[15:44] <graingert> jiahui: that's it
[15:44] <graingert> unless it doesn't work
[15:44] <graingert> in which case I don't know
[15:45] <escott> Saturn2888, presumably because any data on the system would be irrevocably lost
[15:45] <Saturn2888> escott: great! That's what I want.
[15:46] <jiahui> graingert: it should be related to the nm-applet ? is that ?
[15:46] <dr_willis> Saturn2888:  you could clarify what you are doing/needing. :)
[15:46] <Polah> Saturn2888: What are you trying to do? Overwrite and destroy the data on your disk?
[15:46] <graingert> jiahui: nm-applet is the network icon
[15:47] <Saturn2888> I'm trying to 1 the drive. You know how you can write 0s to a hard drive? I wanna write 1s because it's an SSD. Writings 0s to an SSD actually does the opposite of what it does on a hard drive. This is why I wanna write 1s instead.
[15:47] <jiahui> graingert: OK,thank you for your answer
[15:47] <majorastro> what
[15:47] <graingert> Polah: he wants to TRIM an unseasoned drive
[15:47] <graingert> Polah: as the drive thinks it is full
[15:47] <majorastro> ok
[15:47] <Saturn2888> seasoned*
[15:48] <graingert> oops yeah
[15:48] <graingert> that
[15:49] <majorastro> what
[15:49] <auronandace> how do i use an external monitor that is a different screen-size to my laptop display?
[15:49] <escott> Saturn2888, i don't understand your statement that "writing 0s does the opposite". from the firmwares perspective both mark all sectors as in use.
[15:49] <wildbat> Saturn2888: if you know how to 0s
[15:49] <Saturn2888> escott: Not true.
[15:50] <dr_willis> auronandace:  for my nvidia chipsets i just enable it via nvidia-settings..
[15:50] <wildbat> Saturn2888: if you know how to 0s, you know how to 1s it
[15:50] <Saturn2888> escott: if the firmware sees 0s, it's in use
[15:50] <soreau> auronandace: What  happens when you plug it in? or what is the problem exactly?
[15:50] <Polah> Saturn2888, dd if=file of=/dev/sdX
[15:50] <Saturn2888> wildbat: Not really. dd if=/dev/zero makes sense. There's no way to 1 it in the same manner except how graingert and I came up with
[15:50] <Polah> Saturn2888: Beforehand do echo "something here" > file
[15:51] <auronandace> soreau: hang on, i'll fiddle with nvidia settings
[15:51] <dr_willis> gee what if you write NULL's to it...
[15:51] <Polah> Saturn2888: Any value held in "file" would do the trick
[15:51] <Saturn2888> probably not good
[15:51] <Polah> Saturn2888: actually no, that would leave some bits blank
[15:51] <Saturn2888> Polah: yeah, but file has to be 16GB.
[15:51] <wildbat> Saturn2888: you cat pipe to dd ~ make a little c that generate 1s
[15:51] <Polah> Saturn2888: dd will repeat until it's covered the entire disk.
[15:52] <wildbat> dr_willis: that give you 0s too .
[15:52] <dr_willis> gee do you mean ascii 1's or binary ones...
[15:52] <dr_willis> all this seems a little weird to me... :)
[15:52] <Saturn2888> I think bit-wise 1s
[15:52] <graingert> dr_willis: 0xFF
[15:52] <soreau> dr_willis: I believe they're referring to bits while NULL is a character (of 8 0's) AFAIU
[15:53] <escott> Saturn2888, where have you seen this. if I try to store a file that is in fact all 1s on an ssd what happens to the blocks? they can't just be treated as not-in-use and allowed to be overwritten by whatever else comes along
[15:53] <antiphysicist> s there a simple solution to make a seperate partition for home directory which is accessible in windows? I was about to try using a fat32 but apparently links not supported leads to serious problems?
[15:53] <dr_willis> antiphysicist:  you cant use fat32 for home  :)
[15:53] <graingert> antiphysicist: there is ext3/4 support for windows
[15:53] <tensorpudding> ext3
[15:53] <tensorpudding> i don't think ext4
[15:53] <graingert> antiphysicist: as long as you disable journaling
[15:53] <dr_willis> antiphysicist:  and linux can read/wtite to ntfs fine these days
[15:53] <Saturn2888> graingert: oh serious? I remember that being wonky
[15:54] <dr_willis> i think some of the ext3 tools now support ext4
[15:54] <graingert> antiphysicist: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/08/access-ext4-ext3-or-ext2-partitions-in.html
[15:54] <escott> antiphysicist, you don't want your /home on ntfs. the permission models are different
[15:54] <tensorpudding> for reading, not writing
[15:54] <graingert> V 0.51  Support writing to ext4 volumes w/ flex_bg
[15:54] <dr_willis> writing to ext2/3/4 from windows i found.. problematic. :)
[15:55] <antiphysicist> graingert: how would I disable journaling and what are the drawbacks? dr_willis so you're suggesting to use ntfs for my home partition and then windows will be able to access it?
[15:55] <dr_willis> antiphysicist:  you cant use ntfs for home.. it does not support the proper permissions
[15:55] <faryshta> Hi. How can I install 11.10 from USB? PendriveLinux couldn't help me.
[15:55] <Polah> Saturn2888, why exactly do you need to zero the drives?
[15:55] <escott> antiphysicist, and you dont want it on fat32 because there are no permissions. you want to mount an NTFS partition to a folder ~/windows and put files you need in both there
[15:55] <dr_willis> antiphysicist:  make some shared NTFS partition if you need to share files
[15:55] <Gnea> antiphysicist: you should use samba to access /home
[15:55] <Saturn2888> escott: but those are ascii 1s not bit-wise 1s. I have to write a 1 to every 4K sector of data. Reading about how you can read from 4K pages but only write to 512K blocks changes things because it shows you what you can and cannot do with an SSD. It slows it down when you wanna write to something larger.
[15:55] <tensorpudding> it's much better to use NTFS from Linux than ext4 from Windows
[15:55] <dr_willis> antiphysicist:  then your user can store stuff there if needed
[15:55] <Saturn2888> Polah: speed.
[15:55] <graingert> antiphysicist: http://fenidik.blogspot.com/2010/03/ext4-disable-journal.html
[15:56] <faryshta> What does hybrid iso mean? Can I burn the .iso on a usb?
[15:56] <Polah> Saturn2888: And how will it improve speed?
[15:56] <tensorpudding> thanks to ntfs-3g you can even somewhat handle ACLs correctly
[15:56] <dr_willis> faryshta:  you can dd the iso to a usb. I belive.
[15:56] <Gnea> antiphysicist: of course, you could also just make something like a /data partition as ntfs and then symlink it from your ~
[15:56] <Saturn2888> Everyone who doesn't understand the 1s and 0s things about SSDs -> http://www.anandtech.com/show/2738. Specific page which shows a lot: http://www.anandtech.com/show/2738/5
[15:56] <faryshta> dr_willis: thanks, but then I can boot from the usb?
[15:57] <dr_willis> faryshta:  thats sort of the whole point. :)
[15:57] <jzaksh> anyone have thoughts on what this means? php5-cli : Depends: php5-common (= 5.2.10.dfsg.1-2ubuntu6.5) but 5.3.5-1ubuntu7.2 is to be installed
[15:57] <escott> Saturn2888, im not saying ascii 1s. I'm saying that I have a binary file maybe its an image, and the middle of this image is pure white so all bytes are maxed out and it is straight 1s. the logical sector must be mapped to a physical part of the ssd array, and it must be considered in-use by the block allocator of the firmware
[15:57] <dr_willis> faryshta:  you may want to ask about it in #ubuntu+1
[15:57] <graingert> faryshta: it might be easier to just use a usb creator though
[15:57] <faryshta> graingert: usb-creator and pendrivelinux doesn't support 11.10
[15:57] <graingert> faryshta: bull
[15:58] <dr_willis> faryshta:  theres several dozen differnt tools available at the pendrivelinux site
[15:58] <graingert> faryshta: just refer to the ISO file direcly
[15:58] <Polah> jzaksg: php5-cli depends on php5-common and thus you need to install -common to use the -cli package
[15:58] <graingert> directly*
[15:58] <Saturn2888> escott: ok, then I don't know. All I know is I need to write 1s and any trim commands on this computer should not work by design. I believe even if I used a trim-capable drive, it wouldn't work because of motherboard restrictions possibly caused by the BIOS.
[15:58] <jzaksh> my package manager is telling me that php5-cli depends on php5-common 5.2, but i have 5.3 installed. but... if you go check online, it actually requires php-common >=5.2
[15:58] <graingert> IC
[15:58] <jzaksh> Polah: common is installed.... here's my output for `dpkg -l '*php*' http://dpaste.de/4qbYM/raw/
[15:58] <faryshta> dr_willis: I tried a few but doesn't support 11.10
[15:59] <Polah> Saturn2888: /dev/zero would actually give you data values since it provides ASCII 0 characters to be written, you could then repeat with an offset to wipe over the spaces written with 1s.
[15:59] <dr_willis> faryshta:  ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:59] <Saturn2888> Oh ok.
[15:59] <hoverbear> \o/ Finally a respectable installation on my laptop. (Ironically from ubuntu-server)
[16:00] <faryshta> dr_willis: asked. That irc seems to be dead.
[16:00] <zykotick9_> dr_willis, just wanted to give you a heads-up.  Regarding the hybrid ISO (that I'm told is working in 11.10) the "typical" instructions from the debian world (where hybrid was introduced with squeeze) is to "cat" the iso onto the root of the USB drive (i imagine dd would do the same thing, but there appears to be "some" consensus on using cat for some reason?)
[16:00] <jrib> Saturn2888: I'm kind of perplexed by your reasoning for this but you can probably accomplish it by just using /dev/zero and tr
[16:00] <escott> Saturn2888, the only advantage to writing all 0s or all 1s to the drive is that when the block allocator needs to move physical A to physical B it can note that both have the same contents and an overwrite is not required, the only thing required is to remap the logical blocks referencing A and B. since you don't have the source code to the firmware you have to *hope* that the firmware is smart enough to notice this case, if its not then
[16:00] <escott>  writing 0s or 1s or any pattern to the full disk would degrade performance
[16:00] <Saturn2888> jrib that's what I'm doing now
[16:01] <dr_willis> zykotick9_:  cat defaults to a bigger buffer size i belive. ive seen similer discussion over using cat or dd to copy a cd to an iso file.
[16:01] <Saturn2888> escott: having a seasoned drive, a drive where chips are written to, there's a 1.5ms latency on writes. That's HUGE. No point in an SSD that's slower than an HDD
[16:01] <antiphysicist> Gnea, so from the replies i have two good (and simple for me) options: make a separate nfts data partition that isn't home and put my shared files on that, or make a seperate/home on an ext3 and try to access that from windows? just checking i understand
[16:02] <dr_willis> antiphysicist:  thats the core of it.
[16:02] <auronandace> dr_willis: thanks mate, all fine and fully functional now
[16:02] <dr_willis> antiphysicist:  home has to be on a ext2/3/4 or some other filesystem that handles linux permissions
[16:02] <Saturn2888> escott: and yes, I'm assuming the firmware works as it's been claimed to. By all the reviews of cleaning seasoned drives, I would believe this to be true because people who've one'd a drive have noticed speed increases even with this particular RunCore drive.
[16:03] <faryshta> Hi. How can I install 11.10 on a usb?
[16:03] <Gnea> antiphysicist: it would be easier to just share them on some kind of ntfs partition, then you wouldn't run into the problems of windows trying to write to a filesystem it doesn't fully support
[16:03] <TheEvilPhoenix> faryshta:  #ubuntu+1
[16:03] <dr_willis> faryshta:  see #ubuntu+1  it was just sdiscussed that you can use cat of dd to put the isop  on a usb i belive
[16:04] <Gnea> faryshta: /join #ubuntu+1 and ask there, please
[16:04] <escott> Saturn2888, if you have instructions that have worked for someone with exactly your drive, then follow them. but it is firmware specific, and the firmware gets to decide how it treats all 0s or all 1s. so im back to asking "where have you seen instructions relating to all 1s specific to your firmware"
[16:04] <faryshta> Gnea: dr_willis TheEvilPhoenix I am on that forum but it seems a bit dead.
[16:04] <Gnea> faryshta: you'll have to be patient
[16:04] <Saturn2888> escott: http://www.anandtech.com/show/2738/11
[16:04] <TheEvilPhoenix> faryshta:  then patience is required
[16:04] <Gnea> faryshta: also check the urls in the /topic
[16:04] <Gnea> faryshta: it might already be answered
[16:05] <faryshta> Gnea: I did.
[16:05] <Saturn2888> escott: the other source is the OCZ forums but I don't have a direct link to any particular forum post about this since there are many. The forum postings on MyDellMini.com also talk about the RunCore drive
[16:06] <AlessonZaire> milagre please read the pvt I sent you
[16:06] <antiphysicist> gnea, dr_willis, graingert, escott thanks for the help i'll go get partitioning then!
[16:08] <faryshta> Hi. How can I install 11.10 on a usb?
[16:08] <Polah> !usb | faryshta
[16:08] <Polah> !oneiric | faryshta
[16:08] <escott> Saturn2888, I would probably try hdparm first because if it works it does exactly what you want which is to tell the firmware to throw away the logical->physical block allocation tables. if it doesn't work and you trust the sources that say to write 1s then use dd to write 1s
[16:09] <faryshta> Polah: that link doesn't work for oneric.
[16:09] <dr_willis> faryshta:   you can 'cat' or 'dd' the iso file to the flash drive. was mentioned earlier.
[16:09] <Polah> faryshta: You don't need the link, join #ubuntu+1
[16:09] <faryshta> dr_willis: I am on a windows trying to format this shit. What can I do?
[16:10] <IdleOne> !language | faryshta
[16:10] <Saturn2888> escott: I'm 13GB of 16GB into writing 1s so I mean, I'm gonna do this. I know there's no way the computer supports trim in any way and I have no way to verify it would work or not. In fact, I don't even know how to use this command. It's asking for sector range pairs. I dunno what I'd put there.
[16:10] <graingert> faryshta: you're in the wrong channel for a start
[16:10] <faryshta> Polah: I am there. No one could help me.
[16:10] <graingert> faryshta: even less people can help here
[16:10] <TheEvilPhoenix> !oneiric > faryshta
[16:11] <faryshta> TheEvilPhoenix: again. I am on that irc too.
[16:11] <TheEvilPhoenix> faryshta:  then sit there quietly and WAIT
[16:11] <TheEvilPhoenix> faryshta:  PATIENCE is a requirement
[16:11] <zHammeRz> lol
[16:11] <TheEvilPhoenix> and a ton of it
[16:11] <graingert> faryshta: or consider purchasing an ubuntu support contract
[16:11] <graingert> although those are only available in supported releases
[16:11] <graingert> ie not ubuntu 11.10
[16:12] <dr_willis> I imagine theres ports of dd for windows. :) or other disk imageing tools at the pendrivelinux web site. but ive not bothered to put 11.10 on a flash yet.
[16:12] <faryshta> graingert: thanks but I don't see how that helps at all.
[16:12] <Tatrasiel> is there a way to use wget to get unetbootin?
[16:12] <faryshta> dr_willis: pendrivelinux doesn't support 11.10
[16:12] <Tatrasiel> I am trying to learnn it and it seems to always to dowlload everything as an HTML
[16:13] <dr_willis> faryshta:  pendrivelinux is a web site that has collections of tools.. I imagine one of them does..   or has beta versions of the app that does.
[16:13] <escott> Saturn2888, you would put the full LBA geometry range reported by the drive in fdisk
[16:13] <CatKiller> Hi there, silly question, but can't find the answer. I know it's possible.
[16:13] <TheEvilPhoenix> !ask | CatKiller
[16:14] <Tatrasiel> yep
[16:14] <CatKiller> I've installed ubuntu server. Towards the end of the install, at the package selection, I obviously pressed "Enter" instead of "space". I know these packages can be reinstalled using apt-get but I'd like to bring this "package selection" "graphical" util up
[16:14] <CatKiller> Does anybody know what command I need to run?
[16:15] <graingert> CatKiller: tasksel
[16:15] <faryshta> dr_willis: I don' think that is actually a good advice.
[16:15] <CatKiller> The OS base system is already installed
[16:15] <CatKiller> graingert: That's it! Thanks a million! Couldn't find it
[16:15] <graingert> CatKiller: 1 million eh? there are only 21 of those
[16:16] <KingSphinx> I did a clean reinstall of Ubuntu this morning (well, Kubuntu 64-bit, but the same basic thing... does Kubuntu use its own channel? Oh well), and so far, the only thing not working for me is sound with Flash (I installed the 64-bit version through the sevencomputers PPA). Anyone know how to get sound working in 64-bit Flash?
[16:16] <graingert> KingSphinx: should "just work" tm
[16:16] <graingert> KingSphinx: you might want to try #kubuntu as they use a different sound system
[16:17] <KingSphinx> Ah, thanks.
[16:17] <sam1080> hello
[16:17] <CatKiller> graingert: No, pretty sure you can thank someone as much as you can and it's more than 21 times ;)
[16:17] <Glowball> Hi. For my wireless USB stick to work in Ubuntu 10.04, I need to install linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic via Synaptic. But, of course, I don't have an internet connection... How can I install it anyway? (Is there a way to download a deb file of it on another computer?)
[16:18] <sam1080> i need some help
[16:18] <graingert> !question | sam1080
[16:18] <sam1080> my sound device is not working
[16:18] <IdleOne> Glowball: packages.ubuntu.com
[16:18] <sam1080> on xubuntu
[16:19] <th0r> sam1080: install the xfce-mixer in the panel and see if everything is turned on/up
[16:20] <faryshta> Hi. How can I install 11.10 on a usb?
[16:20] <sam1080> tks
[16:20] <IdleOne> faryshta: #ubuntu+1
[16:20] <iceroot> faryshta: again, please no crossposting
[16:21] <IdleOne> you know this already
[16:21] <faryshta> IdleOne: iceroot you know that in ubuntu+1 there isn't a solution yet.
[16:21] <Glowball> IdleOne: Aha, found it! Thanks.
[16:21] <iceroot> faryshta: i told you a solution
[16:21] <faryshta> IdleOne: iceroot and no one else have joinded.
[16:21] <IdleOne> faryshta: 11.10 is NOT supported in here.
[16:22] <faryshta> IdleOne: there are more people here. Someone might know.
[16:22] <IdleOne> Glowball: welcome. make sure to download any depends it may need also
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> faryshta: try unetbootin, i think there's a version for win
[16:22] <IdleOne> faryshta: I am going to tell you one more time. 11.10 is NOT supported in this channel.
[16:22] <sweb> which key code is ^@ in terminal ? how can i find out it ? for example Escape is ^[
[16:23] <faryshta> MonkeyDust: thanks I did but it got stucked in the 174 file.
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> faryshta: maybe what you want is not possible
[16:23] <IdleOne> MonkeyDust: if you wish to help him with 11.10 please join #ubuntu+1
[16:24] <faryshta> MonkeyDust: the iso are meant to be hybrid I think it should work but don't know how.
[16:25] <Neo> Hi could someone tell me if there is a better program than devede I find the results aren't great in devede thanks
[16:26] <dr_willis> This tool is used for writing images to USB sticks or SD/CF cards on Windows   https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer    a gui/dd tool for windows
[16:27] <chrisx313> hi
[16:27] <dr_willis> I like DeVeDE :) does exactly what i need.
[16:28] <dr_willis> i think theres more advanced apps that do similer tasks.. but not as simple to use. ive not even looked into the alternatives in ages
[16:29] <JellyingPuff> Hi!
[16:29] <Afilthyjew> hello guys, i took the unbutu path, i decided im tired of BSOD's and now im trying to install it on my laptop
[16:29] <Guest83424> dr_willis, Compared to convertxtodvd its not great unfortunately i had a quick look at mandvd that looked confusing lol
[16:29] <JellyingPuff> HH!
[16:29] <Afilthyjew> problem im having is that im trying to install it along my win7
[16:29] <Micheal`> gratz Afilthyjew
[16:29] <JellyingPuff> How do I stop the join and part messages in the webchat?
[16:29] <dr_willis> Guest83424:  i never want any real dvd 'menus' i just want the thing to play the movie. and loop forever. :)
[16:29] <Afilthyjew> i made a partition and installed it, but on boot it will only load win7
[16:29] <Afilthyjew> no unbutu
[16:29] <GreekFreak> Hello I just purchased an HP Pavilion g7 with a Radeon HD 6470M. I subsequently found out that the card is not supported. I have followed instrusctions on installing the driver manually, but then ubuntu won't even start
[16:30] <Micheal`> grub isnt setup correctly
[16:30] <JellyingPuff> Hi!
[16:30] <GreekFreak> I'm back to square on... what am I doint wrong?
[16:30] <Guest83424> dr_willis, Do you know what the best dvd ripping software is? I have used k9copy but was looking for something better
[16:30] <Afilthyjew> the partition is there but it seems unasigned
[16:30] <G7|Cloud> wat
[16:30] <JellyingPuff> I've got python 2.7 installed, but I need 3.1 how cna I update?
[16:30] <Saturn2888> Thanks for the help all! bye
[16:30] <G7|Cloud> GreekFreak: oh, you highlighted me :)
[16:30] <Guest83424> Afilthyjew, Did you install windows first or last?
[16:30] <Saturn2888> graingert: thanks :)
[16:30] <Afilthyjew> windows first
[16:31] <GreekFreak> G7|Cloud: my appologies. It was the model number :p
[16:31] <escott> JellyingPuff, there is a python3 package
[16:31] <Guest83424> Afilthyjew, Thats strange what you should have had the option to do was install ubuntu alongside windows and ubuntu would have updated grub
[16:31] <JellyingPuff> escott: apt-get install python3?
[16:31] <G7|Cloud> GreekFreak: no problem, it's my fault for having g7 as a highlight word :)
[16:32] <escott> !info python3 | JellyingPuff
[16:32] <JellyingPuff> RyuGuns:!!!
[16:32] <RyuGuns> :D
[16:32] <RyuGuns> Why are you looking up python jragon?
[16:32] <Afilthyjew> mmm maybe i need to reinstall?
[16:32] <JellyingPuff> RyuGuns: cos imma learning it
[16:33] <Guest83424> Afilthyjew, Or try sudo apt-get update grub
[16:33] <dr_willis> Python has many many tutorial web sites out there. :)
[16:40] <IdleOne> Afilthyjew: Please change your nick to a family friendly one.
[16:46] <ex-demon> почему я нимагу на ubuntu-ru ничево написать в чат
[16:46] <escott> !ru | ex-demon
[16:46] <ex-demon> cannot to send пишет
[16:47] <haus1> hu ?
[16:48] <ex-demon> ???
[16:48] <ex-demon> #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel  ?????
[16:48] <OerHeks> ex-demon, maybe you need to register your name first.
[16:48] <OerHeks> !register
[16:49] <ikonia> ex-demon: talk to the operators, some are in #ubuntu-irc
[16:49] <skai> any operators here?
[16:49] <ikonia> skai: what's up
[16:49] <ikonia> skai: (you may also want to join #ubuntu-ops)
[16:50] <skai> ikonia: nonono. im from ubuntu-ru and i need to ask something about your channel bots ^_^ exp exchange or something
[16:51] <ikonia> skai: join us in #ubuntu-ops and ask
[16:51] <nos__> is there anyway that i can know what VGA drivers i m using ?>@!??
[16:51] <escott> nos__, read your Xorg.0.log or look at the output of glxinfo
[16:53] <usagiakumu>  I need something that tests ram, proc, video, hard drive a bootable CD
[16:54] <haus1> look for just that , you'll find one ..
[16:54] <nos__> escii, it says Xorg video driver
[16:54] <M1N1Me> um, Knoppix
[16:55] <RyuGuns> lol
[16:55] <M1N1Me> boot with memtest option
[16:55] <haus1> there is an Ubuntu Recovery CD
[16:55] <nos__> escii, it cant be true right !?!? does xorg have drives .?!? i mean i was actually expecting xf86-video-intel !
[16:57] <nos__> is there any 'other' way to find which VGA drivers are curruntly installed and then install xf86-video-intel ?
[16:59] <escott> nos__, xorg replaced xf86 seven years ago
[17:02] <mh> what is the recommended hardware config for ubuntu natty?
[17:02] <bitmonk> mh: awesome.
[17:02] <mh> bitmonk: :)
[17:03] <mh> bitmonk: my CPU is always over 93%, that is why I am asking
[17:04] <bitmonk> so i'm trying to upgrade some karmic hosts to lucid (i know, i know) which are behind a proxy server.  i've been able to use do-release-upgrade on lucid hosts with the same network config to get to natty, but it hangs on the karmic hosts.  what might i be missing?
[17:04] <mh> and I don't do anything weird, just mp3 listening in banshee and some facebook in firefox
[17:04] <bitmonk> mh: what sort of hw are you on?
[17:05] <mh> A very bad laptop, Fujitsu Siemens Amilo Pa1510 Series
[17:06] <sweb> which key code is ^@ in terminal ? how can i find out it ? for example Escape is ^[
[17:06] <Myrtti> mh: Javascript on some webpages seems to bring even top notch laptops on their knees
[17:06] <mh> Memory: 873.4 MiB, Mobile AMD Sempron Processor 3400
[17:06] <mh> +
[17:07] <mh> Myrtti: any way to solve that problem?
[17:07] <Myrtti> mh: I'm personally trying out if NoScript has any effect on it
[17:08] <mh> still after closing Firefox, banshee takes 84.4% of cpu. Is this normal?
[17:08] <mh> using ubuntu classic, no effects
[17:09] <duncan-nz> Hi. I just ran 'sudo rm' on my Desktop directory, that was a mistake and now I'm looking for roots Trash directory. Can't find it anywhere.
[17:09] <mh> and I am listening a short song, nothing special
[17:09] <nos__> escott, but i just installed them on arch linux ! and they are working just fine ! i m confused
[17:10] <winut> check your drivers -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[17:10] <nos__> winut, i dont have nvidia
[17:10] <iceroot> duncan-nz: there is no trash on the cli
[17:10] <iceroot> duncan-nz: use your backup
[17:10] <zemo> is possibleto encrypt an existing partition?
[17:10] <nos__> winut: or any graphic card for that matter ..
[17:11] <winut> applies to all, look for "addtional drivers"
[17:11] <duncan-nz> iceroot, so it's quite gone then?
[17:11] <nos__> oh !
[17:11] <zemo> IS POSSIBLE TO ENCRYPT AN EXISTANT PARTITION??
[17:11] <zemo> sorry the caps
[17:11] <iceroot> duncan-nz: correct
[17:11] <nos__> winut: anyway how do i know which drivers i m using now ?!?! the xorg.0.log has some messy log !
[17:11] <winut> it should tell you what drivers are avliable, sorry for not explaining myself properly
[17:11] <duncan-nz> iceroot, ok thanks for the bad news. cu
[17:12] <winut> have you changed it?
[17:12] <nos__> winut: no
[17:12] <nos__> winut: but i m thinking of changing
[17:12] <winut> what is listed in addtioanl drivers?
[17:13] <escott> zemo, not with dmcrypt
[17:13] <nos__> winut: nothing
[17:13] <zemo> escott: what do you mean?
[17:13] <nos__> cause i dont have any grahpic card
[17:13] <celltech> What's a good program to capture a video camera on my screen?
[17:14] <nos__> winut: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[17:14] <escott> zemo, or at least not easily. I would just copy the data to another medium, and then setup the encrypted partition and copy it back
[17:15] <zemo> escott: im asking if is posible to cypher a current partition
[17:15] <zemo> seams isnt
[17:18] <winut> ok, so you need a driver
[17:22] <duncan-nz> I accidentally deleted my Dektop directory and can't work out how to get back to a normal desktop situation where the desktop files are shown on the desktop. Now it's just showing the contents of my home directory.
[17:22] <duncan-nz> I want the contents of the Desktop directory shown on my desktop.
[17:23] <Woet> i keep getting the error "failed to copy file from cd-rom" during installation of 11.04, 64 bit, server
[17:23] <escott> duncan-nz, use gconf-editor to set nautilus back to ~/Desktop
[17:23] <Woet> it's a mounted ISO, so the CD cannot be damaged
[17:23] <Woet> verify disc says it's completely valid
[17:23] <Woet> md5sum matches
[17:23] <Woet> not sure what else I can do
[17:23] <ikonia> Woet: you can mount damaged cd's
[17:24] <Woet> ikonia: please read all my messages
[17:24] <Woet> ikonia: does your comment still apply?
[17:24] <ikonia> Woet: yes
[17:24] <Woet> ikonia: okay, so what do you mean?
[17:24] <osse> Why didn't anyone tell me about apt-get build-dep before :(
[17:24] <duncan-nz> escott, can you give me a point to where that setting is?
[17:24] <ikonia> Woet: becuase the iso is doesn't contain flat files, it contains a squashed file system
[17:25] <ezraw> I just added an entry to my hosts file and it won't resolve using ping to test. Others do just fine. any suggestions on troubleshooting?
[17:25] <Woet> ikonia: [19:23:42] <Woet> md5sum matches
[17:25] <Woet> ikonia: [19:23:40] <Woet> verify disc says it's completely valid
[17:25] <ikonia> Woet: so ?
[17:25] <Woet> so what can cause the problem?
[17:25] <Woet> if the iso is intact, if ubuntu verification says it's intact
[17:25] <ikonia> Woet: are you installing from a cd - or an ISO image
[17:25] <Woet> ikonia: I think I mentioned ISO several times now
[17:25] <escott> duncan-nz, its under apps/nautilus somewhere. I dont have gconf-editor installed. its also the reverse of the instructions you would find online for making nautilus show $HOME as the desktop
[17:25] <rumpe1> Woet, mounted how?
[17:25] <Woet> rumpe1: KVM
[17:26] <Woet> ikonia: [19:23:34] <Woet> it's a mounted ISO, so the CD cannot be damaged
[17:26] <ikonia> Woet: it's possible when the squashfs is decompressing, it's not valid/sane
[17:26] <Woet> ikonia: [19:23:40] <Woet> verify disc says it's completely valid
[17:26] <Woet> ....
[17:26] <ikonia> Woet: manually look for the file on the uncompressed / running CD
[17:26] <Woet> ikonia: the installer doesn't mention a file.
[17:27] <duncan-nz> escott, it seems to be installed by default, at least in 11.04. Thanks, I'm looking for it.
[17:27] <ikonia> Woet: that's dissapointing, but it does suggest it's not able to read (for whatever reason) the uncompressed squashFS file system
[17:27] <Woet> ikonia / rumpe1: http://i.imgur.com/qJerW.png
[17:27] <escott> duncan-nz, /apps/nautilus/desktop. if its not in there then its in your ~/.config/user.dirs file
[17:27] <Woet> ikonia: okay, but the md5sum matches, so the ISO is not corrupt
[17:27] <Woet> ikonia: the installer verify disc says it's okay, so it's mounted properly
[17:27] <ikonia> Woet: you're not listening to what I said
[17:27] <duncan-nz> escott, that's where I'm looking - but I'm not sure what I'm looking for.
[17:27] <ikonia> Woet: carry on as you want
[17:27] <Woet> ikonia
[17:28] <Woet> ikonia: if it can't read the 'squashFS file system', then wouldn't 'verify disc' say it's broken?
[17:28] <Woet> seeing it manually checks all md5sums of all files inside the iso..
[17:28] <ikonia> Woet: carry on as you want
[17:28] <duncan-nz> escott, think I've found it. Thanks.
[17:28] <Woet> ikonia: if you want to help, that's great, but please be specific
[17:28] <ikonia> Woet: I don't want to help anymore,
[17:28] <Woet> ikonia: good.
[17:29] <duncan-nz> escott, it's just a binary on 'desktop_is_home_dir'
[17:29] <Woet> rumpe1: installer console says 'unhandled error code', hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[17:31] <duncan-nz> escott, my mistake that's whether HOME should be used as the desktop directory. It claims that when set to false it will use /Desktop but that's not what it's doing (I've restarted each time to check).
[17:31] <rumpe1> Woet, hmm.. looks like the error, when i tried to mount the oneiric-iso via grub and install that way. Had to go to shell and mount /dev/sr0 (after something else?) manually. But i always thought, vms emulates cd-rom-drives, so the installer shouldnt get confused.
[17:32] <Woet> rumpe1: going to try at the shell
[17:32] <nos__> how do i compile xf86-video-intel driver >
[17:32] <escott> duncan-nz, there are two things that control this. one is the ~/.config/user.dirs file which sets a variable for XDG_DESKTOP_DIR and the one in gconf controls whether or not nautilus uses the folder specified there
[17:32] <rumpe1> Woet, is it oneiric?
[17:32] <Woet> rumpe1: doesn't ring a bell, so probably not
[17:33] <Woet> rumpe1: just ubuntu server, 11.04, 64 bit
[17:33] <escott> duncan-nz, and make sure you are doing killall nautilus && nautilus
[17:35] <sven^> where does apt keep track of installed packages? I want to get rid of loads of packages at once and was hoping  I could just delete them from some wanted packages list and then apt-get autoremove
[17:36] <duncan-nz> escott, sorry I'm confused. What the path to ~/ is that my home dir?
[17:36] <VampsDaBeast> hey guys. i'm having a BIG issue with gettin the most recent drivers for my video to install. I have the new driver install.. but it wont run due to X running. any help
[17:36] <escott> sven^, dpkg --get-selections and --set-selections are probably going to be helpful here
[17:36] <escott> duncan-nz, yes $HOME/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[17:36] <Woet> rumpe1: anyways, just going to install 10.10 and upgrade from there - 10.10 installs work without an issue
[17:37] <rumpe1> sven^, after installation? you can generate a "packages list" with dpkg --get-selections and use it later with --set-selections to install/remove the packages from the list.
[17:37] <otaylor> :/join#html
[17:37] <duncan-nz> escott, I ran 'gedit .config/user.dirs' but there is nothing there.
[17:37] <king313> fail, otaylor
[17:38] <duncan-nz> otaylor,  you want '/join #html'
[17:38] <otaylor> yeah
[17:38] <otaylor> im new to ubuntu
[17:38] <wildbat> VampsDaBeast: if that's is the cause, stop the X ~ run it in console .. but i doubt it is the cause.
[17:38] <duncan-nz> otaylor, that command is older than Ubuntu :-)
[17:39] <escott> duncan-nz, its user-dirs.dirs (i forgot the -dirs)
[17:39] <VampsDaBeast> wildbat: when i run the install thru terminal i et the message 'installation can not continue while X server is running. Please close X server and rerun the installation.'
[17:39] <TBotNik> All:  Looking for a HOWTO on installing Network Manager without internet and without liveCD.  Anyone know where?
[17:40] <duncan-nz> escott, my bad typing actually, you remembered it just fine.
[17:40] <wildbat> VampsDaBeast: that's what i said stop then X first. sudo service gdm stop.
[17:40] <escott> duncan-nz, i left it out when i first gave you the filename
[17:41] <user1> hello
[17:45] <duncan-nz> escott, thanks for the help, that problem is now fixed.
[17:45] <nimbiotics> Using v11.04, why is it that I cannot see the "Session Options Tab" in the "Startup Application Preferences"?? I'd like my system to restart the applications I'm running when I logout. TIA!
[17:45] <duncan-nz> escott, sadly I have no recollection of what files where on the desktop, certainly not a folder I backup, more a cluttered space. Thanks for the help.
[17:52] <VampsDaBeast> wildbat: ok that work.. got the new drivers install, but now i have 2 nvidia X setting in the system menu, how would i get rid of 1) the old nvidia setting manager and 2) the older nvidia drivers
[17:56] <anadon> How do I diagnose if my computer's APM in broken?
[17:57] <juboba> hey
[17:58] <juboba> I'm having a problem with kworker
[17:58] <juboba> does anybody know about this issue? (It is making my computer slow)
[17:58] <GordonGR> Hallo! I installed Kubuntu 11.04 yesterday but I have no sound. I tried calling a module as this HOWTO https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto suggests, but it didn't work. Any help please?
[17:58] <juboba> !uname -a
[17:58] <juboba> damn
[17:59] <anadon> I think kworker is something for cron jobs, so you might have a script running in the background
[17:59] <juboba> my kernel version is 2.6.38-11
[17:59] <VampsDaBeast> anyone know how to remove an old driver and setting manager for nvidia
[17:59] <juboba> anadon: it is called by the kernel
[17:59] <anadon> whoops
[17:59] <anadon> juboba: did you fully update?
[18:00] <juboba> yes
[18:00] <RayzrShrp> is it possible to move the unity bar?
[18:00] <IdleOne> no
[18:00] <RayzrShrp> I didn't think so
[18:00] <escott> anadon, juboba kworker is the kernels worker threads. it is completing time consuming actions initiated by drivers or userspace
[18:01] <LurchiderLurch> Is there a tool for U 10.10 64bit that uses the W-lan device to scan the frequences around 2,4 GHz and plots a fourier transformation for frequences around 2,4GHz. There seems to be a disturbing source of electromagnetic waves in my house
[18:02] <VampsDaBeast> escott: you busy or have time to help me figure out why i have 2 nvidia ogjects installed.
[18:02] <VampsDaBeast> objects**
[18:03] <escott> VampsDaBeast, don't know much about nvidia. you probably have 2 because they keep the older nvidia drivers around for people whose cards are not supported by nvidias newer drivers
[18:04] <VampsDaBeast> escott: my card is newer, its the gt 220. i was finally able to get teh newest driver installed but now, i have 2 nvidia x server settings in my system options menu.
[18:04] <mh> I got the feeling that my graphics card could have a better driver, or that something is wrong. who could like to help me? I think there are no proprietary drivers installed. I am using Natty and the graphics card is ATI Radeon Xpress 1100
[18:05] <GordonGR> so I did what the guide said, called modprobe with the appropriate command, rebooted but didn't work.
[18:05] <juboba> escott: how can I solve my problem? kworker is using too much CPU
[18:06] <wildbat> VampsDaBeast: find the old package and remove it with synaptic
[18:07] <Somelauw> Does anyone know what jetty does?
[18:07] <GordonGR> Hallo! I installed Kubuntu 11.04 yesterday but I have no sound. I tried calling a module as this HOWTO https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto suggests, but it didn't work. Any help please?
[18:08] <Somelauw> I got an error that something wasn't configured properly after installing some updates and it called jetty. I already googled jetty, butI don't understand.
[18:08] <Jonathan458> Hey guys, can anyone help me with installing rTorrent?
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> !ask| Jonathan458
[18:08] <auronandace> !info jetty | Somelauw
[18:09] <wildbat> Jonathan458, sudo apt-get install rtorrent . done.
[18:09] <Somelauw> auronandace: ok. So what do I need it for?
[18:09] <Jonathan458> wildbat i tried that
[18:10] <Jonathan458> let me show u what i got
[18:10] <GordonGR> Jonathan458: then read its man page, it needs some configuration but it's not hard.
[18:10] <Somelauw> thanks for the ubottu info at least
[18:10] <VampsDaBeast> wildbat: do that now, lets hope it works right
[18:10] <auronandace> Somelauw: you must have installed it at some point, don't you remember?
[18:10] <auronandace> Somelauw: either you installed it or it got installed as a dependancy to something else
[18:11] <Somelauw> auronandace: Maybe it came with wamp
[18:11] <mh> so any proprietary drivers available for Radeon Xpress 1100?
[18:11] <Jonathan458> wildbat: its says rtorrent is already the newest version... but where is it? Sorry im noob to this
[18:11] <Pici> mh: no. The open source 'radeon' driver is all that you can use.
[18:11] <Somelauw> ok, thanks. weird that it broke
[18:11] <Pici> Jonathan458: rtorrent is a cli program, there is no gui and it will not be in your menus.
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> Jonathan458: type alt-F2 rtorrent
[18:11] <GordonGR> Jonathan458: simply open a terminal and type “rtorrent”
[18:11] <mh> Pici: thanks
[18:11] <Somelauw> Jonathan458: Try Alt+F2 and then enter rtorrent
[18:12] <VampsDaBeast> wildbat: what was the keystrokes for 1 exiting X server, gettin a Command Line and 3 entering back in to the KDE screen
[18:13] <Jonathan458> no command found MonkeyDust, Somelauw
[18:13] <Jonathan458> oh nvm
[18:13] <Jonathan458> im dumm ass
[18:13] <wildbat> case ?;p ?
[18:13] <_2easy> i can't disable gdm using "update-rc.d -f gdm remove" in ubuntu 11 why is it so?
[18:13] <mh> Pici: I get some lags when I type letters, for example. Any possible solution for this?
[18:13] <escott> Vampire0_, ctrl-alt-f# 7 is the X server
[18:13] <toumbo> Hi!May anyone help me how to intergrate gnome player with my chromium?It says "missing plugin" althought I installed it!
[18:13] <An0nmy0us> #join :P
[18:14] <IdleOne> _2easy: sudo service gdm stop.
[18:14] <An0nmy0us> #Join Kubuntu
[18:15] <Jonathan458> wildbat after runnign rtorrent in the terminal i get error: Could not read resource file: `/rtorrent.rc
[18:15] <urlin2u> An0nmy0us, /join #kubuntu
[18:15] <Somelauw> Jonathan458: I googledrtorrent and since it seems to be a ncurses client, you should open a terminal and start it from there
[18:15] <An0nmy0us> thanks
[18:15] <IdleOne> An0nmy0us: /join #channel
[18:15] <VampsDaBeast> IdleOne: that takes you to a blank screen correct?
[18:15] <IdleOne> VampsDaBeast: believe so.
[18:15] <GordonGR> Jonathan458: type man rtorrent, it will give you insight as to make your own ~/rtorrent.rc. It's the configuration file.
[18:15] <VampsDaBeast> IdleOne: how to get start a command line from that screen
[18:15] <Jonathan458> Yes Somelauw i found guide stateing that and i installed the ncurses command but still nothin
[18:15] <IdleOne> VampsDaBeast: ctrl-alt-F1
[18:16] <VampsDaBeast> IdleOne: then without having to reboot, how would i return to my GUI desktop?
[18:16] <freezey> where are keys specified for ubuntu repos? i created a local server and i cant seem to find where i specify the key to sign it with
[18:16] <IdleOne> ctrl-alt-F7
[18:16] <GordonGR> ctrl-alt-f7
[18:16] <Somelauw> Jonathan458: Check the file .rtorrent.rc and if it doesn't exist, create it or otherwise check the man or some tutorial for instructions.
[18:17] <VampsDaBeast> thanks all
[18:17] <ben_unity> Hi
[18:17] <GordonGR> sometimes if the xserver crashes it reopens at the next virtual console, ctrl-alt-f8 too
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> VampsDaBeast: or simply alt left arrow
[18:17] <Jonathan458> GordonGR type that in Run or terminal?
[18:17] <_2easy> IdleOne: but i want do it permanently, so that after reboot it starts in terminal
[18:17] <IdleOne> !nox | _2easy
[18:17] <GordonGR> Jonathan458: terminal
[18:18] <ubuntu_> hi
[18:18] <Cyrax5> I'm trying to open a pdf file with libre office but there's just a load of weired lettering.
[18:18] <GordonGR> there is a gui man page viewer, but I can't remember how it was called
[18:18] <Webonaute> hi. how I can use Connect to Server to call smbfs else only smb?
[18:18] <toumbo> Hi people!Is anyone available to solve together my little issue?
[18:18] <ohzie> Hey guys, I have a question
[18:18] <_2easy> IdleOne: thanks!
[18:18] <GordonGR> Hallo! I installed Kubuntu 11.04 yesterday but I have no sound. I tried calling a module as this HOWTO https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto suggests, but it didn't work. Any help please?
[18:18] <ohzie> Is there a way to generate a list of paths with filenames, instead of the output that ls generates normally?
[18:19] <ohzie> What I'm looking for is output from LS similar to the windows command "dir /S /B /A-D"
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> toumbo: just as, the channel will repond if we can
[18:19] <GordonGR> ohzie: ls --help :-)
[18:19] <ben_unity> ohzie, would that print out the contents of the files in the folders? ls -l * might help
[18:20] <ohzie> GordonGR: Having looked over the man page for something similar to what I'm looking for, I've turned to the ubuntu channel because I haven't found it.
[18:20] <ohzie> GordonGR: Thank you for your RTFM though.
[18:20] <ben_unity> ohzie, would that print out the contents of the files in the folders? ls -l * might help
[18:20] <ohzie> ben_unity: Thank you so much!
[18:20] <ben_unity> ;D
[18:20] <toumbo> Ok here is my question again: how to intergrate gnome player with my chromium?It says "missing plugin" although I installed it!
[18:20] <GordonGR> ohzie: ok ok, I'm sorry. I usually use ls -la, it shows the hidden files/folders too
[18:20] <freezey> where are keys specified for ubuntu repos? i created a local server and i cant seem to find where i specify the key to sign it with
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> GordonGR: can you run the alsa-info.sh file detailed on the sound troubleshooting page and give the generated URL
[18:21] <ohzie> If anyone else needs something similar to what I've been looking for, I did find it
[18:21] <ohzie> LS is incapable of generating the output I was looking for, but 'find' does it quite nicely with no arguments but folder
[18:21] <GordonGR> ActionParsnip: what is that page?
[18:21] <Jonathan458> GordonGR not sure what i need be doing in the file
[18:22] <ben_unity> toumbo, in firefox there is something to define what it does with files, you could look up 'chromium setting file uses' or something along those lines
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Webonaute: can you rephrase please. If you have a samba server then nautilus  can get you access via gvfs
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> !sound
[18:22] <GordonGR> Jonathan458: rtorrent.rc is the file with all the configurations. I don't have one any more, otherwise i'd send it to you
[18:22] <GordonGR> thanks, ActionParsnip
[18:23] <Jonathan458> thanks GordonGR
[18:23] <toumbo> ben_unity okay I'll try it!Thanks for the response!
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> GordonGR: first link, search the page for alsa-info.sh   and run the command you find please
[18:23] <GordonGR> Right
[18:26] <LuizArmesto> #it3s
[18:26] <LuizArmesto> ops
[18:27] <LuizArmesto> sorry.
[18:27] <GordonGR> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=6dcbb2feb24fe47cc4926a755ec4540ea7e10530
[18:27] <fenfir> who do i report a bug in rm to?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> GordonGR: perfect. Gimme a sec
[18:28] <GordonGR> ActionParsnip: take your time, mate :)
[18:29] <Peyam> Hi
[18:29] <ska> For some reason, my updates dont seem to update the Grub boodloader.
[18:29] <ben_unity> Hi Peyam
[18:29] <Pici> fenfir: it would be against the coreutils package in launchpad, but are you sure its a bug?
[18:29] <urlin2u> ska, did you install startup manager?
[18:29] <Peyam> I lock my computer (laptop) and when I open the lock I cant see Log in anymore
[18:30] <ska> Using 10.04.1
[18:30] <fenfir> pici: if you make a file named -esomething and try to rm it it interprets it as a flag, even if quoted, escaped
[18:30] <zykotick9_> fenfir, are you sure it's a bug?  Looks like "rm" is part of coreutils
[18:30] <ska> urlin2u: not sure.. what does it do?
[18:30] <Peyam> I lock the cpomputer to suspend and open it again.. no Login. Using Ubuntu 11.04
[18:30] <zykotick9_> fenfir, that's not a bug
[18:30] <fenfir> how do i delete the file then?
[18:30] <escott> fenfir, rm -- "-filename"
[18:31] <Pici> fenfir: thats not a bug, and its even mentioned in its own manpage.
[18:31] <fenfir> ahh
[18:31] <ska> urlin2u: startupmanager is not installed. How do I update the kernels now?
[18:31] <escott> fenfir, its in the man page
[18:31] <fenfir> i really should rtfm
[18:31] <urlin2u> ska, it is a default boot app but is I'm not sure about lucid not defaulting on a kernel update above lucid. You only get a grub-update when a new kernel or kernel patch is installed.
[18:31] <fenfir> this is what i get for thinking rm was simple
[18:31] <urlin2u> ska, sudo update-grub
[18:32] <escott> fenfir, remember that escaping is for the SHELL (bash), once it gets to rm it looks like -filename and rm thinks things that start with "-" are flags
[18:32] <ben_unity> I have written a small console based game and wish to port it to other Linux Distros. I have a netbook with 11.04 and 3 desktops, running Fedora 15, OpenSUSE 11.4, and Gentoo, is there a way I could access a console on them to run gcc? I have ftp working, but ftp is only file transfer. I have heard of ssh, how could I set it up?
[18:32] <urlin2u> ska, if yo have a dual  boot linux set up the last install has the grub control you have to run the update-grub there.
[18:32] <urlin2u> you
[18:34] <ska> urlin2u: Thanks.. no mine is single boot.. all is clear. i hope.
[18:34] <urlin2u> ska, cool.
[18:35] <Webonaute> I try to mount a mac share on osx lion and I alway got : mount error(22): Invalid argument
[18:36] <bjarni> Hi.  Can you tell me how to alter keys on keyboard.  I have ubuntu 11.04 and Unity.  There is no vertical bar on it - needs to be added.
[18:36] <Webonaute> I use : sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.197/Share /mnt/share/ -o user=username,sec=lanman,servern=SHARESERVER
[18:37] <Webonaute> I have try with smb and smbfs and I got same error
[18:37] <Webonaute> I dont know what else to try.
[18:38] <13WAAB3VR> how do you create a windows 7iso in ubuntu
[18:38] <Webonaute> if I try with "Connect to server" from UI. it connect, I can create directory but I cant copy, create or edit file
[18:38] <K4k> Is anyone else here using Natty on a machine with the AMD HD6350 Graphics chip? I'm having trouble getting my backlight to come on after suspending to RAM.
[18:38] <Webonaute> On windows with same username, I can edit these file.
[18:38] <Webonaute> so its not a permission problem
[18:39] <Webonaute> no problem on windows or mac. only on ubuntu.
[18:39] <alkafoo> 13WAAB3VR: burn, you mean?
[18:40] <13WAAB3VR> alkafoo: yes the first two appear to be corrupt when i try to install it
[18:40] <alkafoo> 13WAAB3VR: try burning at a slower speed, like 4x
[18:40] <alkafoo> 13WAAB3VR: otherwise you could image to a USB stick, or boot from GRUB
[18:40] <alkafoo> 13WAAB3VR: or just install to a VM
[18:41] <13WAAB3VR> alkafoo:I'm on natty now after it said the disk was corrupt now my win 7 won't boot at all
[18:42] <alkafoo> 13WAAB3VR: what said which disk was corrupt?  What won't boot, you already have Windows 7 installed to a hard disk?
[18:43] <Osmodivs> Hello. How can I change a GPU kernel module version? I nstalled Nvidia's propietary drivers (280.13) but when I try to boot I can't, because it says: "Error: APIA mismatch; The nVidia kernel module has version 270.41.19 but this Nvidia component has version 280.13... So, how do I fix this?
[18:43] <Osmodivs> I am in FAILSAFE mode
[18:44] <13WAAB3VR>  alkafoo: I have win 7 32bit, i was trying to install 64bit but after copying the win7 64bit files the installer decided that my disk was corrupt and it couldn't continue
[18:44] <escott> Osmodivs, that shouldn't stop your boot, you should just end up at a console. there you can fully remove the old nvidia version
[18:45] <alkafoo> Osmodivs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia/
[18:45] <wildbat> 13WAAB3VR: check you ISO with md5 yet?
[18:45] <13WAAB3VR> wildbat: how do i do that in natty?
[18:45] <Osmodivs> escott: Well, I am in the GUI right now, failsafe mode. So you are saying that I need to delete the "nvidia-current" in synaptic?
[18:46] <wildbat> 13WAAB3VR:  md5sum <filename>
[18:46] <escott> Osmodivs, dpkg -l "*nvidia*" should list all nvidia packages installed. be sure to remove and purge those that you don't need
[18:46] <Kazilla> join #nm
[18:47] <Kazilla> misstype lol
[18:47] <alkafoo> 13WAAB3VR: sha1sum filename; http://blogs.technet.com/b/dmelanchthon/archive/2009/07/23/windows-7-rtm.aspx
[18:48] <Osmodivs> escott: I am not that good in the terminal, is it ok if I uninstall them from synaptic?
[18:48] <escott> Osmodivs, synaptic should be fine
[18:50] <metellius> ok, so my (k)ubuntu upgrade crashed midway through (running in a screen which is gone now), and apt-get dist-upgrade just gives me a message that some packages have been held back. I don't dare reboot, what can I do?
[18:50] <metellius> trying to dist-upgrade with aptitude just gives me crap solutions involving removign libc6 (!)
[18:51] <RoyK> hi
[18:51] <Kazilla> good eeevening
[18:51] <RoyK> wtf did that sun/shadow go in 11.04
[18:52] <dob_> i have a little problem. I have my ubuntu root on /dev/sda11. Can i remove all the other partitions in the extended partition and resize the size of the extended partition?
[18:52] <alkafoo> dob_: short answer: yes; long answer: you'll have to be a lot more specific if you want precise instruction
[18:53] <alkafoo> metellius: what message?
[18:53] <metellius> alkafoo:
[18:53] <metellius> The following packages have been kept back: libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-calc libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-impress libreoffice-kde libreoffice-math libreoffice-writer nfs-common nfs-kernel-server python-uno
[18:54] <alkafoo> metellius: that doesn't sound like much of a problem
[18:54] <dob_> alkafoo: I have another idea. I have some free space left on the device. I will now create a LVM PV and move my root and swap into that. Then i will remove the exteneded partition and resize my PV to the max size.
[18:54] <alkafoo> what isn't working?
[18:55] <metellius> alkafoo: all attempts at actually continuing the upgrade
[18:55] <escott> dob_, moving into lvm could cause more problems than it solves, esp. if your initrd doesnt support lvm
[18:55] <alkafoo> metellius: so you just want those package to not be 'kept back'
[18:55] <dob_> escott: Can i add support for lvm to my system?
[18:56] <metellius> alkafoo: i guess, yes. either way, the overall goal is to finish the upgrade
[18:56] <escott> dob_, if you have sda4 as extended containing sda5,6,7,8,9,10,11 just delete 5-10, and grow 11 to fill sda4
[18:57] <escott> dob_, the grow will take a long time, but its the simplest change
[18:57] <alkafoo> metellius: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22following%20packages%22%20%22kept%20back%22%20site%3Aubuntuforums.org
[18:57] <dob_> escott: my primary goal was to use lvm :-)
[18:57] <dob_> to be more flexible in the future
[18:58] <escott> dob_, just be aware that your bootloader must be able to find the initrd (not sure grub can understand lvm) and that your initrd must be able to load the lvm modules or they must be built in. I don't know if that is standard with ubuntu desktop
[18:59] <dob_> escott: thank u, i will try it ...
[19:00] <escott> dob_, generally putting things like a system root or a boot partition on lvm is not the right approach. you want your data that does vary like your music or your /var partitions on lvm
[19:00] <daavis> hi! how to backup theme directory? i want to use shell-theme. so i'm interested in some safety :)
[19:00] <urlin2u> dob_, clone the stuff before you break it if you want a copy when you do.
[19:00] <zodiak> anyone running upto date 11.10 ? I noticed after this mornings small updates skype refuses to launch :(
[19:01] <urlin2u> zodiak, #ubuntu+1
[19:01] <dob_> okay. I will move my boot to /dev/sda1 first. And then check what i will do afterwards..
[19:01] <zodiak> urlin2u, awesome. danke.
[19:01] <dob_> thank u guys
[19:01] <urlin2u> dob_, move your boot?
[19:01] <daavis> hi! how to backup theme directory? i want to use shell-theme. so i'm interested in some safety :)
[19:02] <metellius> alkafoo: yeah, I did my googling; all the posts suggest update->upgrade->dist-upgrade fixes it, but this is not the case for me
[19:02] <metellius> it just gives me the same message, twice
[19:02] <Pici> metellius: What release of Ubuntu are you running?
[19:02] <metellius> I'm in the middle of 10.04 -> 10.10 upgrade
[19:02] <metellius> no
[19:02] <metellius> 11.04 -> 11.10 :)
[19:03] <AlessonZaire> 11.10 is out?
[19:03] <metellius> beta1
[19:03] <urlin2u> AlessonZaire, still i development you can download dailies,
[19:04] <urlin2u> in*
[19:04] <Pici> metellius: Then you should be asking in #ubuntu+1, that is their support channel.
[19:04] <metellius> ah, I see
[19:04] <Pici> metellius: The repositories  might be in an inconsistant state at this time.
[19:04] <AlessonZaire> Yay \o/
[19:04] <AlessonZaire> Thanks urlin2u
[19:05] <metellius> Pici: ah, I see
[19:05] <daavis> where is theme directory?
[19:05] <Osmodivs> Nope. it didn't worked
[19:05] <metellius> Pici: what exactly is "at this time"? is there some package upgrade in process in the repositories?
[19:05] <urlin2u> AlessonZaire, no problem.
[19:06] <Pici> metellius: I just mean that could be a possbile answer, I'm not sure if theres anything going on right now, the folks in +1 should be able to help you sort it put.
[19:06] <metellius> ok.
[19:10] <Flark706> hi so i'm needing to be able to disable my network manager for 11.04
[19:10] <mello> hi, does someone know how i can disable the effect that takes place when you change desktop backgrounds? it seems to lag my computer
[19:16] <zykotick9_> Flark706, and after you disable n-m, do you want to use /etc/network/interfaces file or wicd or something else?
[19:16] <Flark706> actually i was able to do a service stop command so i'm going to see if that fixed the error
[19:17] <Guest97015> hello
[19:19] <Underscore> Is there any reason that after a dual-boot install of Ubuntu and Win7 my motherboard splash screen spends about 20 seconds longer on the screen?
[19:20] <downming_> /#ubuntu-zh
[19:20] <ikonia> Underscore: no
[19:20] <ikonia> Underscore: the bios has nothing to do with the OS
[19:20] <bjarni> How can I see what device my keyboard is in /dev/input/eventX ?
[19:21] <AuroraNites21> hi
[19:21] <Underscore> ikonia: Well it's pretty weird then, since this seems to be the cause
[19:21] <ikonia> Underscore: but it's not
[19:21] <Underscore> ikonia: But why would it only just start after installing ubuntu?
[19:21] <ikonia> Underscore: no reason at all
[19:22] <Underscore> ikonia: I do agree it doesn't make sense
[19:22] <ikonia> Underscore: unplug the ubuntu disk, see if it speeds up
[19:22] <Jordan_U> Underscore: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc
[19:23] <Underscore> ikonia: It's on a single disk unfortunately, so I can't try that
[19:23] <ikonia> Underscore: just pull it out
[19:23] <ikonia> Underscore: you don't have to boot it
[19:23] <Underscore> ikonia: Ah, true
[19:23] <Dice-Man> hello how to print Underscore ?
[19:23] <ikonia> _
[19:23] <ikonia> Dice-Man: press the underscore key
[19:24] <Dice-Man> ok
[19:24] <Dice-Man> _
[19:24] <ikonia> well done
[19:24] <Dice-Man> that's cool
[19:24] <[THC]AcidRain> lol
[19:24] <ikonia> Dice-Man: please don't mess around with silly questions
[19:25] <escott> ikonia, i'm reminded of the story of the person who kept a file with some character on the keyboard so it could be copied and pasted into documents as needed
[19:25] <Dice-Man> ikonia: well the question was badly formulated
[19:25] <Dice-Man> ikonia: i want to know the ascii code for the underscore
[19:26] <Dice-Man> where can i see that ?
[19:26] <ikonia> google ?
[19:26] <ikonia> the ascii database ?
[19:26] <ikonia> it's not really an ubuntu issue
[19:26] <escott> Dice-Man, sudo apt-get install ascii; ascii;
[19:26] <mello> how can i manipulate the effects that unity uses?
[19:26] <cataldS> Hello today I put ubuntu but it bothers me in the eyes watching the monitor, the characters appear to be poorly defined, perhaps this is the cause, is a known problem?
[19:26] <mello> or i mean change/edit them actually
[19:26] <daavis> jhbuild build
[19:26] <daavis> jhbuild: could not load config file, /home/daavis/.jhbuildrc is missing
[19:26] <daavis>  (trying to get shell 3.0)
[19:27] <daavis> oops, sorry
[19:27] <daavis> what to do
[19:27] <daavis> ?
[19:27] <alkafoo> cataldS: perhaps the text is more antialiased than you'd like
[19:27] <alkafoo> cataldS: you can change that
[19:27] <alkafoo> cataldS: if you're just coming from Windows, though, give it a couple weeks you might grow to prefer it
[19:28] <escott> !ccsm | mello
[19:28] <escott> cataldS, its likely the subpixel rendering order is off. change the ordering in your font config settings
[19:29] <mello> escott i thought that unity was running mutter, so how can i change it's settings with ccsm? well let me try so anyways
[19:29] <escott> mello, mutter is gnome3
[19:29] <cataldS> alkafoo: yes I come from windows but i used ubuntu 2 years ago and i had not these issues
[19:29] <kukovlado> hallo
[19:30] <kukovlado> Do You someone know about czech ubuntu?
[19:30] <mello> escott you've got any idea what settings are most likely to cause problems with ATI cards?
[19:30] <Flark706> ok so i'm trying to stop my network manager from running i ran a service Network-Manager stop command but that doesn't seem to have worked
[19:31] <alkafoo> cataldS: well then you either have encountered a bug, or you need to change your text rendering config
[19:31] <escott> mello, no idea sorry
[19:31] <alkafoo> cataldS: you might want to show someone a screenshot and describe what you don't like
[19:32] <kukovlado> please, can you help mee?
[19:32] <escott> Flark706, it is fairly hard to stop nm as it gets started by various dbus messages whenever you plug something in. supposedly putting something in /etc/interfaces will prevent nm from managing that interface
[19:32] <cataldS> alkafoo: I tried to set here http://i.imgur.com/58w8b.png but there are not changes
[19:32] <guntbert> !cz | kukovlado
[19:33] <kukovlado> so, I speak english, and I wants help from you
[19:33] <cataldS> wants? :D
[19:33] <Flark706> escott: lol yea i'm starting to realize that.....any thoughts on what it would be?
[19:34] <escott> kukovlado, but we dont speak czech so we don't know anything about that localization
[19:34] <guntbert> kukovlado: just ask, we will try to help
[19:34] <Webonaute> nobody have idea on probleme I post 30 minute ago?
[19:34] <Flark706> escott: truth be told i just need to stop wpa_supplicant dhclient these two processes
[19:35] <Dice-Man> Webonaute: well, can you re-ask your question please ?
[19:35] <Dice-Man> i might be off when you posted it :)
[19:36] <Webonaute> yeah. I want to connect to a share hosted on a Mac OSX lion. I can connect to it, I can create folder but I cant create/copy/edit file.
[19:36] <Webonaute> with the same user on windows or other mac machine I have no problem
[19:37] <hugo___> hello, im trying to compile MIRACL on ubuntu 11.04 64bit, and doing bash linux64 renders this error: usr/bin/linux64: /usr/bin/linux64: cannot execute binary file anyone know how to solve that?
[19:37] <MapMan> hello. I installed openssh server. How do I set it up so it doesnt start automatically and how do I stop it now?
[19:37] <Flark706> trying to stop wpa_supplicant and dhclient  any thoughts?
[19:38] <AuroraNites21> hello
[19:38] <escott> MapMan, service ssh stop will stop it for now
[19:38] <sunice> MapMan look at rc-update
[19:38] <Flannel> MapMan: It's currently set up to start automatically.  And you can stop it by: `sudo service ssh stop`
[19:39] <sunice> MapMan: Yes that will stop it. If you do not want it to load rc-update will help
[19:39] <MapMan> okay, thanks, Ill look into it
[19:40] <Webonaute> Dice-Man: I have try sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.197/Share /mnt/share/ -o user=username,sec=lanman,servern=SHARESERVER   I have try to change cifs for smbfs, alway the same error refering to Not implemented function
[19:41] <WormDrink> hi
[19:41] <kokoshmusun> can't access workrave setting in natty, anyone know?
[19:41] <WormDrink> I want my system to start an ssh tunnel on startup
[19:41] <WormDrink> how can I go about achieving this ?
[19:41] <escott> WormDrink, add it to rc.local
[19:43] <Osmodivs> Ok, so I decided to use Ubuntu drivers only. How do I uninstall a .run file from Nvidia?
[19:44] <Kazilla> WormDrink: man update-rc.d (lots of detail there)
[19:45] <MapMan> hmm guys
[19:45] <MapMan> Im confused about the update-rc.d
[19:45] <MapMan> or no
[19:45] <MapMan> nevermind
[19:45] <xox2011> hi
[19:46] <xox2011> wow
[19:46] <xox2011> this is really working!
[19:46] <Kazilla> we are not robots, just confirming
[19:46] <Kazilla> :)
[19:46] <xox2011> hi Kazilla
[19:46] <Kazilla> hi
[19:46] <escott> MapMan, just read some of the example scripts in /etc/init and make your own script to start the tunnel
[19:47] <xox2011> what's up?
[19:47] <sunice> xox2011: just answering questions. Do you have some?
[19:47] <MapMan> escott: I think you confused me with someone :)
[19:47] <Kazilla> nothin, watching the game, drinking ubuntu
[19:47] <xox2011> what question? Sunice
[19:47] <MapMan> snorting hoes, fu*king coke.
[19:48] <escott> MapMan, yes sorry
[19:48] <OverworkDL1> Would anyone be able to help diagnose why I have some rather monstrously large, and growing startup times, as can be seen by my full dmesg log:  http://overminddl1.com/misc/dmesg.txt
[19:49] <sunice> xox2011: hang out for a bit and you'll see. Great distraction from work.
[19:49] <escott> OverworkDL1, note the ext4 orphan stuff
[19:49] <rumaging_pinz> how do i use inxi in chat again
[19:50] <escott> OverworkDL1, your filesystem is corrupted which requires recovery and adds to the boot time. fsck your filesystem first
[19:51] <gurmal> hi
[19:51] <[SPSU]Zach> is there away to install directly to my hard drive?
[19:52] <sunice> Zach: are you running on a live cd? not sure I get the question
[19:52] <escott> OverworkDL1, if it still takes a long time you can install bootchart to see what might be the cause
[19:52] <gurmal> how can update xfce 4.6.1 to 4.6.2(assuming 4.6.2 is available) using apt-get
[19:53] <cataldS> escott: how should I set this? http://i.imgur.com/58w8b.png . I'm trying any configuration but there are not changes.
[19:53] <OverworkDL1> escott:  Perhaps that could be caused by the system not shutting down clean, the computer is never powered off, but it has a tendency to lock up when I run a few graphical intensive applications, even the screen turns into blue/black colored bars when that happens.
[19:53] <sunice> gurmal: if it is part of the repo the release should become available with a simple safe-upgrade option.
[19:53] <escott> cataldS, try different things until it looks better. its a rather subjective thing
[19:54] <sunice> gurmal: I'm not currently running xfce though.
[19:54] <OverworkDL1> The applications I run that cause a lockup, unsure if it is due to the graphics, but every time it crashes it happens when it is writing temporary state to disk, corrupting its data.
[19:54] <escott> cataldS, i would set the dpi first because that you can actually measure
[19:55] <OverworkDL1> escott:  Also, doesn't the orphan recovery take less then a second according to the log?
[19:55] <gurmal> @sunice where can I get that option , using ubuntu karmic 9.1
[19:56] <earthmeLon> I have a Sony Vaio VPCF126FM.  It has an eSATA/USB port.  I am plugging in a SATA hdd to it through a SATA->eSATA cable, but dmesg does not report any new devices when I plug it in.  If I plug in a USB device, it does recognize it.  11.04.  Any suggestions?
[19:56] <gurmal> my problem is that xfce gets stuck after some time , ubuntu works ok with gnome
[19:56] <escott> OverworkDL1, it is easier to fix an identified problem than to speculate on if it causes or does not cause subsequent problems
[19:57] <mansor> i have a problem with my nvidia geforce gt540m and ubuntu 11.04 ,, its not working properly
[19:57] <OverworkDL1> escott:  True, I shall safely reboot when next possible after an fsck
[19:57] <zykotick9_> earthmeLon, my motherboard doesn't support hotplugging esata (some do), try restarting with the external esata plugged in
[19:57] <escott> OverworkDL1, and check your smart status just in case the disk is bad (disk-utility tool)
[19:57] <OverworkDL1> Any thought about the locking up?
[19:58] <Osmodivs> mansor: Download the driver from Nvidia's site
[19:58] <Osmodivs> mansor: You will regret it
[19:58] <OverworkDL1> escott:  Already have checked SMART, not failing, yet anyway
[19:58] <escott> OverworkDL1, and install bootchart. the lockup you are describing is most likely video driver related. drop back to classic
[19:58] <OverworkDL1> escott:  Just did install bootchart
[19:58] <Osmodivs> Ok, rebooting
[19:58] <mansor> why would i regret it ??
[19:58] <rocket16> Hello. I recently installed realtek audio driver on ubuntu and it broke my sound and alsa tools. I reinstalled ubuntu-desktop, gdm and sound tools, but nothing helped. :( Is there a way to fix other than reinstalling?
[19:58] <mansor> i didn't download anything yet ,,
[19:58] <conrad90> How do I install a .tar.bz2?
[19:58] <gurmal> hey any1 xfce gets stuck on karmic , wish to update using apt
[19:59] <OverworkDL1> escott:  Oh I hope it is not video driver related (why freeze only when writing files though?), I need it fully accelerated...
[19:59] <earthmeLon> zykotick9_, I will give that a try.  What use is eSATA if it's not hot-plugable? :P
[19:59] <escott> conrad90, first check if the software is available in synaptic
[19:59] <conrad90> This is Firefox 8.  It is not.
[19:59] <conrad90> I already extracted it via the archive manager
[19:59] <zykotick9_> earthmeLon, hotplugging depends on your hardware!  As for use (even if hotplug doesn't work), 'cause it's like 10X faster then USB...
[20:00] <lolwut> http://kut.as/06aj  please help, i'm still getting this error
[20:00] <escott> OverworkDL1, you said it tends to freeze when running graphically intensive applications
[20:00] <OverworkDL1> escott:  Yes, but it only crashes when both the graphically intensive apps are using the graphics, as well as writing files, *never* when not writing a file...
[20:01] <Osmodivs> mansor: Because Nvidia's propietary drivers are too much for Ubuntu, you should stick with Ubuntu's old but trusty drivers
[20:01] <OverworkDL1> escott:  I do run the GUI accelerated as well, even stressed it out and it never crashed for note
[20:01] <earthmeLon> zykotick9_, Is this my eSATA controller as well as my SATA controller:  SATA controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 05)
[20:01] <escott> OverworkDL1, DMA or IRQ conflict? i don't know
[20:01] <alkafoo> Osmodivs: did you mean nvidia's proprietary drivers _on their site_?
[20:01] <Osmodivs> mansor: I just reinstalled 270.41.19 when I got the 280.13 fron Nvidias site
[20:01] <zykotick9_> earthmeLon, probably?
[20:02] <ryan_> every time I have played wirth vid drivers they crap out on me
[20:02] <OverworkDL1> escott:  Checked those, I shall be remotely rebooting my computer soon and I have bootchart installed so we shall see what it says, thanks for that tip
[20:02] <gurmal> OK guys , seem like you are kinda busy now .. catch ya later
[20:02] <Osmodivs> alkafoo: They are usually in AMD's site
[20:02] <Osmodivs> ^^
[20:02] <earthmeLon> Just trying to figure out a way to look up information about the controller instead of rebooting.  Guess I'm rebooting.  Thanks guys
[20:02] <mansor> the thing is unity isn't working on my laptop ,,,
[20:02] <escott> conrad90, generally for tarballs it is ./configure --prefix=/opt/whatever; make; make install;
[20:02] <JusticeZero> Looking for a wifi card for my desktop. I'd prefer PCI but it looks like they don't make those anymore or something..?
[20:02] <xox2011> sorry guys
[20:03] <rocket16> any help?
[20:03] <xox2011> I am back
[20:03] <ryan_> how old is ur laptop?
[20:03] <mansor> you mean that its because of the driver but installing it will give me so much troubles?
[20:03] <xox2011> someone asked me something a couple of minutes ago
[20:03] <JusticeZero> Any recommendations? The wiki said to look for certain chipsets, but it's not clear what cads have those.
[20:03] <xox2011> are you guys using ubuntu?
[20:04] <JusticeZero> i am?
[20:04] <ryan_> if ur ubuntu detects vid drivers.. install them.. otherwise.. don't play with vid drivers
[20:04] <escott> JusticeZero, wikipedia is often helpful for identifying where the chips are used
[20:04] <xox2011> I'm using asus netbook n it comes with wins 7
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> xox2011: yes, I use ubuntu
[20:04] <JusticeZero> ergh. wikipedia also has an annoying tendency to not be updated regularly in my experience so far.
[20:04] <xox2011> I'm wondering if ubuntu would be better
[20:04] <gebbione> is there a way to open my hidden folders from gnome?
[20:05] <gebbione> for instance
[20:05] <xox2011> hi Action
[20:05] <ryan_> lol
[20:05] <ryan_> totally better than win 7
[20:05] <gebbione> /home/user/.hidden
[20:05] <zykotick9_> gebbione, ctrl+h to show hidden
[20:05] <ryan_> but lots to learn
[20:05] <ryan_> its not the end all to be all
[20:05] <gebbione> ryan too much
[20:05] <xox2011> oh
[20:05] <escott> gebbione, nautilus has a "show hidden folders" preference
[20:05] <gebbione> see all these things
[20:05] <escott> gebbione, ctrl-l and type the path
[20:05] <xox2011> I see
[20:05] <gebbione> should have an interface equivalent
[20:05] <JusticeZero> xox define 'better'. I know I can do a lot with ubuntu running x on a netbook that would be out of reach if it was running xp, and win7 is even more of a bear.
[20:05] <xox2011> thanks Ryan
[20:06] <JasonGriffee> How do I install a Dell a920 printer?
[20:06] <daavis> will gnome3 be on 11.10 ?
[20:06] <escott> daavis, yes
[20:06] <Polah> daavis: It will be supported, but not on there by default
[20:06] <th0r> JasonGriffee: you have cups installed?
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> daavis: yes
[20:07] <daavis> nice
[20:07] <JasonGriffee> th0r, cups?
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> xox2011: better is an opinion, so never concrete. Depends what you use your OS for
[20:07] <th0r> JasonGriffee: open a web browser and point it to localhost:631
[20:07] <daavis> Polah, you mean.. it will be like an option ? selectable ?
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> xox2011: I suggest you boot to liveCD or LiveUSB and you can test for yourself
[20:07] <escott> daavis, sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[20:07] <th0r> JasonGriffee: should get you the cups configuration that will allow you to define another printer
[20:08] <JasonGriffee> th0r, CUPS 1.4.6?
[20:08] <Polah> daavis: You will need to install it afterwards. Or perhaps there will be a distribution with GNOME alongside the likes of Xubuntu or Kubuntu.
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> daavis: oneiric is only supported and discussed in #ubuntu+1 until release day
[20:08] <daavis> well, it's risky to install as I read from different sources, escott
[20:08] <daavis> for example http://blog.sudobits.com/2011/04/26/how-to-install-gnome-3-on-ubuntu-11-04/
[20:08] <zykotick9_> !gnome3 > daavis
[20:08] <alkafoo> Osmodivs: ...
[20:08] <escott> daavis, it is very risk for 11.04 because of the gtk3 vs gtk2 issues, not for 11.10
[20:09] <Osmodivs> alkafoo: Yes?
[20:09] <escott> daavis, so after you make the 11.04->11.10 upgrade do sudo apt-get install gnome-shell and then you can select it on login
[20:09] <daavis> cool
[20:09] <alkafoo> you just said nvidia drivers are on amd's site =P
[20:09] <daavis> yeah!
[20:09] <Osmodivs> alkafoo: I'm kidding
[20:09] <Osmodivs> come on!
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> !gnome3 | daavis
[20:10] <Osmodivs> ^ Yep, where stick with UNITY
[20:10] <Osmodivs> i mean, stuck
[20:10] <alkafoo> ...
[20:11] <Polah> Osmodivs: Nobody is stuck with anything. If you don't like Unity, use any other environment you want.
[20:11] <Silver[a]> is there a way to 'freeze' an executable for the next x minutes, so that it may not be run?  Is chmod the best choice to ensure nothing starts a new process?  I'd like a way of letting existing processes exit gracefully, but make sure nothing new starts while I'm waiting.
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> but Polah ....Gnome is teh only DE :)
[20:11] <ikonia> Silver[a]: ctrl z
[20:11] <Osmodivs> Polah: Well, I want GNOME3 but there is no way to use it without breaking something in Ubuntu
[20:11] <Polah> ActionParsnip: Don't you use LXDE?
[20:11] <zykotick9_> ActionParsnip, well said :p
[20:11] <Polah> Osmodivs: It'll be available in 11.01
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: use Oneiric
[20:12] <escott> Silver[a], -x'ing is the best bet
[20:12] <Polah> 10*
[20:12] <JasonGriffee> th0r: I went to add the printer, but it wants a PPD file
[20:12] <daavis> thanks for bunch of good answers :) so we wait... we sit and we wait.. we wait for next ubuntu version
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> Polah: it was a joke, the bashing people give Unity, makes them sound like they think gnome is the only DE
[20:12] <escott> Silver[a], just make sure you hit all the x's
[20:12] <th0r> JasonGriffee: might find that on the manufacturer's webpage. Been ages since I used a printer or CU
[20:12] <th0r> PS
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> daavis: bit more than a month away, i'm sure you'll survive
[20:12] <alkafoo> Osmodivs: ubottu just said how
[20:13] <kkb110> how do I see the list of open ports of my machine and what application is using that?
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> alkafoo: she also said it breaks things
[20:13] <Osmodivs> Well, Unity is just a bad copy of GNOME3, really, I was just getting used to open a trminal with ALT-CTRL-T
[20:13] <Silver[a]> escott: I'm not following you.  -x?'
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> kkb110: netstat -a
[20:13] <JasonGriffee> th0r: should i be looking for dell a920 or lexmark 600?
[20:13] <Osmodivs> You can't do that in KDE or LX...something
[20:13] <kkb110> ActionParsnip, Thanks -a
[20:13] <daavis> ActionParsnip, i hope i will :))
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> kkb110: if you are behine a router, and want to test that then you will need to get websites to scan you etc
[20:14] <JasonGriffee> th0r: z600, sorry
[20:14] <escott> Silver[a], chmod u-x,g-x,o-x
[20:14] <th0r> JasonGriffee: often you won't find your specific printer and just have to try several from teh same manufacturer until you find one that works
[20:14] <ikonia> Silver[a]: just press ctrl + z on the running process
[20:14] <alkafoo> ActionParsnip: it said it breaks Unity, which presumably someone wanting ordinary GNOME3 won't want
[20:14] <Silver[a]> escott: aha.  OK.  I'm mostly concerned that I'll forget/miss one to put back.  :)
[20:14] <Polah> Osmodivs: Ctrl+Alt+T works in LXDE
[20:14] <Silver[a]> ikonia: the processes are not in the foreground to begin with, so that will not help, thanks.
[20:15] <ikonia> Silver[a]: understood
[20:15] <JasonGriffee> th0r: throwing random drivers at it won't do any harm will it?
[20:15] <Polah> escott, Silver[a]: Couldn't that be simplified to ugo-x?
[20:15] <th0r> JasonGriffee: no....you can try one, if it doesnt' work delete it in cups and try another. You can even leave them defined...it won't hurt to have several printers defined that are not connected
[20:16] <escott> Polah, maybe ill try that next time
[20:16] <Polah> escott: I recall seeing something about being able to combine then like that
[20:17] <th0r> JasonGriffee: while you are there, you might want to install cups-pdf. It allows you to print to a pdf file instead of a printer
[20:17] <GordonGR> ActionParsnip: did you manage anything? in the meantime, I found this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules nd I'll try it, hoping it's not obsolete
[20:18] <[SPSU]Zach> is there a way to install directly to my hard drive?
[20:18] <Polah> [SPSU]Zach: Yes, there's an install option from the live session.
[20:19] <[SPSU]Zach> whenever i try to boot from my cd/usb it says "unable to find medium containting live file system" after the purple ubuntu screen with orange dots
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> GordonGR: I had to start work. Do you have the link still?
[20:19] <[SPSU]Zach> i have tried redownloading the iso several times
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> [SPSU]Zach: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[20:20] <[SPSU]Zach> yes i tested it
[20:20] <[SPSU]Zach> didnt match
[20:20] <[SPSU]Zach> every time i donwloaded it didnt match
[20:20] <[SPSU]Zach> :(
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> [SPSU]Zach: then you'll need to redownload. the file is corrupt
[20:20] <GordonGR> ActionParsnip: sure, it's http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=6dcbb2feb24fe47cc4926a755ec4540ea7e10530
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> [SPSU]Zach: use torrent
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> GordonGR: thanks
[20:20] <[SPSU]Zach> okay
[20:22] <B0g4r7> How can I query apt to ask if a given package is currently installed or not?
[20:22] <xox2011> gotta go
[20:22] <xox2011> take care all
[20:22] <xox2011> bye
[20:22] <sunice> B0g4r7:  try <aptitude search package>
[20:22] <B0g4r7> (I'm writing an 'installer script', so the more programatic the method the better)
[20:23] <escott> B0g4r7, dpkg -l "*pattern*"
[20:23] <zykotick9_> B0g4r7, "sudo dpkg -l | grep foo"
[20:23] <escott> B0g4r7, i dont think aptitude is on all systems so best to use dpkg
[20:24] <B0g4r7> dpkg -l seems to work.  Thanks.
[20:24] <zykotick9_> escott, thanks - didn't know dpkg had a built in search like that
[20:25] <[SPSU]Zach> i forgot im at college and they dont allow torrent files
[20:25] <sunice> escott: I didn't know either something new every day. Love the community
[20:25] <escott> zykotick9_, its a little annoying to use because it doesn't put * on either side and * matches the shell wildcards so you get inconsistent results depending on whether or not the shell matches the pattern
[20:26] <zykotick9_> escott, i agree - took me a few attempt to get it to work ;)  i believe the grepping is probably easier, but it's always good to learn new tricks.
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> GordonGR: does the system have a make and model?
[20:27] <GordonGR> it's a custom computer,  just parts assembled.
[20:28] <GordonGR> ActionParsnip: it's a custom computer, just parts assembled. It's a desktop.
[20:29] <[SPSU]Zach> does winmd55sum work on all versions of ubuntu?
[20:29] <[SPSU]Zach> or is thre a different download for each version?
[20:29] <escott> [SPSU]Zach, md5sum changes for every file
[20:30] <Selassie> How to format all hard disks and undo partitions?
[20:30] <zykotick9_> [SPSU]Zach, gnu/linux has md5sum, while the bsds (mac) have md5 i believe.  winmd5sum is the windows version i take it?
[20:31] <escott> Selassie, install and use gparted
[20:31] <Selassie> but i want to install windows first
[20:31] <Selassie> and then ubuntu
[20:31] <Selassie> and then debian
[20:32] <GordonGR> Selassie: then do it with the windows installer.
[20:32] <sunice> Zach: I think everyone is looking for a bit more detail on your question. MD5sum works great. winmd5sum works great on windows. Not sure if that answers you question
[20:32] <Guest72310> is there a way to setup asus k43s multi touch mouse pad in ubuntu 11.04 ???
[20:32] <flopato> why does "sudo newgrp" make me root?
[20:32] <Selassie> oh k
[20:32] <escott> Selassie, it might be easier to create the partition table first just so you dont have to resize windows
[20:32] <shawn_> How come Port 22 is refused when I try to ssh within my simple LAN?
[20:32] <jrib> flopato: because you ran newgrp with sudo
[20:32] <flopato> jrib: but newgrp is to change the gid
[20:32] <flopato> and sudo newgrp changes my uid also
[20:32] <jrib> flopato: so why are you using sudo?
[20:33] <escott> Selassie, im not sure if the windows installer will let you install to less than the full drive
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> GordonGR: gotcha
[20:33] <Polah> shawn_: Are you SSHing in or out of your system?
[20:33] <jrib> flopato: newgrp basically starts a new shell
[20:33] <[SPSU]Zach> sorry i was doing something
[20:33] <[SPSU]Zach> winmd55sum is windows yes
[20:33] <flopato> jrib: but with root rights?
[20:33] <JasonGriffee> is there a good place to find old lexmark ppd files?
[20:33] <shawn_> I'm just tring to ssh into a laptop from my desktop
[20:33] <escott> shawn_, do you have a firewall setup
[20:33] <[SPSU]Zach> so it will work for 10.10?
[20:33] <jrib> flopato: because you ran it with sudo, you shoudl just run "newgrp"
[20:33] <shawn_> no
[20:33] <GordonGR> flopato: yes, it can't be done otherwise.
[20:33] <Selassie> But how do I do that?
[20:33] <flopato> jrib: yes i know! just did it to try out
[20:33] <Guest72310> is there a way to setup asus k43s multi touch mouse pad in ubuntu 11.04 ???
[20:33] <sunice> Selassie: Ubuntu will resize the drive for you when you go to install it after windows.
[20:33] <escott> [SPSU]Zach, windows and linux executable as different so no
[20:34] <sunice> selassie: same with debian
[20:34] <shawn_> is that weird?
[20:34] <flopato> jrib: so whats the reason for the uid change? why does sudo makes newgrp change my uid?
[20:35] <flopato> jrib: is it because newgrp opens a new shell
[20:35] <sunice> shawn: have you tried an nmap to see if the port is open.
[20:35] <Guest72310> is there a way to setup asus k43s multi touch mouse pad in ubuntu 11.04 ???
[20:35] <jrib> flopato: yes
[20:35] <shawn_> nmap?
[20:35] <[SPSU]Zach> im at college using their internets could that be a problem
[20:35] <sunice> shawn: Could be host.deny, or an iptables rule
[20:35] <escott> shawn_, check iptables -L on the ssh server
[20:35] <Polah> shawn_: Do you have SSH properly configured and running on the laptop?
[20:35] <flopato> jrib: and because sudo gives me root rights temporary it opens the new shell as root?
[20:36] <[SPSU]Zach> marcin
[20:36] <jrib> flopato: yes
[20:37] <flopato> jrib: okay thx! didn't know that newgrp opens up a new shell!
[20:37] <flopato> jrib: now everything is clear and consistent ;)
[20:38] <escott> [SPSU]Zach, thats not too unusual. they don't want people running servers so they may be blocking cross traffic on their network
[20:38] <shawn_> I'm not sure how to configure ssh.  I thought It was already part of the library.
[20:38] <[SPSU]Zach> what do you mean blocking cross traffic?
[20:38] <escott> [SPSU]Zach, do other things like streaming music off other peoples itunes work?
[20:38] <Polah> shawn_: SSH server isn't installed by default, it's an option with the server install. Else, you need to install openssh-server from the repos
[20:38] <flopato> jrib: okay thank you! have a nice day
[20:38] <escott> [SPSU]Zach, is one on wifi and the other wired... etc.
[20:39] <[SPSU]Zach> i havent tried streaming wifi
[20:39] <shawn_> ok I'll try
[20:39] <[SPSU]Zach> itunes whatever
[20:39] <[SPSU]Zach> my network setup is
[20:39] <[SPSU]Zach> i have a router set up
[20:39] <[SPSU]Zach> since theirs is down
[20:39] <[SPSU]Zach> wireless router
[20:39] <flopato> exit
[20:39] <JasonGriffee> where would be a starting point for finding ppd files?
[20:39] <flopato> lol
[20:39] <escott> [SPSU]Zach, so you have your own router and both your systems are on it
[20:39] <[SPSU]Zach> systems?
[20:40] <escott> [SPSU]Zach, computers
[20:40] <[SPSU]Zach> i have one computer
[20:40] <dob_> can i copy my running system to another partition.
[20:40] <dob_> ?
[20:40] <escott> [SPSU]Zach, sorry i got threads confused... nevermind
[20:41] <sunice> dob_: yes gparted should help
[20:41] <Polah> JasonGriffee, use find to find files
[20:41] <zykotick9_> JasonGriffee, the ususal starting point is http://www.openprinting.org/printers BUT it's down due to a security breach :(  Good luck.
[20:41] <escott> JasonGriffee, try cups.org
[20:42] <HSarena> hello
[20:42] <dob_> sunice: Also parted?
[20:42] <HSarena> I need help
[20:42] <sunice> dob_:yes
[20:42] <AuroraNites21> hi
[20:43] <genii-around> HSarena: Best to just describe the issue you need help with to the channel in general, someone may know the answer
[20:43] <HSarena> i wanna use my laptop hotkey.. i have sony vaio laptop...
[20:43] <Polah> HSarena: What hotkey?
[20:43] <JasonGriffee> are any other lexmark drivers compatible with the z600?
[20:43] <[SPSU]Zach> i have an idea
[20:43] <chilversc> where do I go to manually add an item to the applications/launcher?
[20:43] <HSarena> Polah: i mean laptop shortcut keys
[20:43]  * Erevanic-Txa hey all, I'm wondering what's the best torrent software for the latest version of Ubuntu ?
[20:44] <Polah> HSarena: What shortcut keys? There's lots of keys on a laptop...
[20:44] <dob_> sunice: with cp command in parted?
[20:44] <[SPSU]Zach> those who need help ask your question to the channel and then someone can pm them so they odnt have to look thru the clutter
[20:44] <guntbert> !best | Erevanic-Txa
[20:44] <sunice> HSarena: must first make sure you have the keyboard model set correctly.
[20:44] <Polah> Erevanic-Txa, there is no "best" software. Transmission comes by default but you could use any client you wanted.
[20:45] <guntbert> [SPSU]Zach: no, we prefer to keep the conversations in the channel
[20:45] <thehumanerror> does anyone know why StarCraft II says "Failed to initialize DirectX" all of a sudden?
[20:45] <dob_> sunice: does not work with mounted devices
[20:45] <thehumanerror> it didn't yesterday, I'm running 11.10 beta, last night there was some updates, that's the only thing I can think of
[20:45] <[SPSU]Zach> so my school's network is messing with the ubuntu iso files im downloading then?
[20:45] <Erevanic-Txa> Polah, well, I'm currently using Transmission, and I just have downloaded all 2pac's albums and half of the files came with this name "_____padding_file_22_if you see this file, please update to BitComet 0.85 or above__"
[20:46] <cwong> i have a rt8188su wireless card and i want it to work with kismet, whats the source line i use to launch kismet?
[20:46] <sunice> dob_: yes that will do it. Make sure you are setting the correct partitions. can break if you are not careful. There are live disks for this also.
[20:46] <Polah> thehumanerror: 11.10 is unstable and thus may not work properly. Ask in #ubuntu+1 for help.
[20:46] <thehumanerror> I have, thanks Polah :)
[20:46] <Polah> Erevanic-Txa, try not to discuss illegal topics in here.
[20:46] <thehumanerror> but I wondered if sometimes SC2 saying there was no DirectX was a common thing
[20:46] <abbdd1112> is there a way to setup asus k43s multi touch mouse pad on ubuntu 11.04?
[20:46] <leeping> Hi there - is there any way to run "updatedb" just for myself, not as "root" ?
[20:47] <[SPSU]Zach> would tor browser help?
[20:47] <escott> [SPSU]Zach, perhaps they are proxying http traffic and their proxy is returning a bad file. you could try a different address or ftp or use the torrent because it checksums each block
[20:47] <Polah> thehumanerror: It works fairly well on 11.04 with Wine 1.3.25. The only issue is Pulseaudio corrupting which can be avoided by suspending pulse for SC2 and bypassing it
[20:47] <leeping> I'm just trying to locate some files on the filesystem but I'm not "root" so I can't run "updatedb" :(
[20:47] <Erevanic-Txa> Polah, it sounds to me just you have no answer of the question, because simply instead of 2pac song's it could be my work documents, so does that change anything? problem with still remain... just say you have no idea what to do I'm fine with that
[20:47] <[SPSU]Zach> torrents wont work here :(
[20:48] <BarkingFish> leeping - sudo updatedb will do the job for you
[20:48] <dob_> Any idea how i can copy my mounted root partition to another partition
[20:48] <thehumanerror> Polah, that sounds an interesting idea, the sound does go choppy sometimes
[20:49] <thehumanerror> but now it's not running at all and I think that's because of the DirectX / OpenGL problem
[20:49] <sunice> dob_: you will need gparted live cd
[20:49] <escott> dob_, copying a mounted partition like that is a bit risky, as the underlying contents could be changing. best to copy it from a livecd
[20:49] <abbdd1112> is there a way to setup asus k43s multi touch mouse pad on ubuntu 11.04?
[20:49] <dob_> sunice: can't reboot that system.
[20:49] <Polah> thehumanerror: Yeah, it's the only problem I've had with it, besides having to change the mounting options for the CD at installation.    pasuspender wine /path/to/SC2/executable     will start up SC2 and suspend pulse for it while it's running, you should still get sound though. I can't really help you with any problems on 11.10 though, like I said, it is unstable.
[20:50] <leeping> BarkingFish, I can't do sudo.
[20:50] <leeping> I'm on a cluster where I don't have root access
[20:50] <sunice> dob_: that's risky business. some tools check for changes after copying, but I would not recommend this. I've done and failed before.
[20:50] <escott> dob_, if you can convert to raid mirroring you could add a mirror device
[20:50] <Polah> dob_: You could create the second partition and then use dd copy it
[20:50] <escott> Polah, not while it is mounted rw
[20:51] <guntbert> leeping: in that case employ "find"
[20:51] <dob_> okay, will debootstrap a new system on the new partitions
[20:51] <escott> dob_, but i think to go to raid you need to be modify partition types so i think you still need a livecd
[20:51] <sunice> Dob_: is it a bare metal machine?
[20:51] <leeping> guntbert, "find" takes forever to search through a file system, hours sometimes if it's large
[20:51] <Polah> dob_: dd if=/dev/originalpartition of=/dev/newpartition
[20:52] <thehumanerror> Polah, thanks, I'll try that too
[20:52] <escott> dob_, don't follow Polah's instructions. those are not safe for a mounted partition (unless it is mounted ro)
[20:52] <dob_> sunice: yes
[20:52] <guntbert> leeping: I guess you will know, where to search
[20:52] <dob_> escott: yes, dd will fail...
[20:52] <sunice> dob_: Sorry I do not have a safe answer for you then.
[20:52] <Polah> Hmm, I guess since writes would interfere
[20:53] <Polah> leep: If you have a fair idea of where they are you could go down a directory or a few to narrow the search
[20:53] <r4> anyone have luck getting ESEAclient and CS 1.6 working together to actually play on a server?
[20:53] <r4> using wine of course
[20:53] <escott> dob_, you could try to init down to single user mode or boot to only initrd... and then it would be mounted ro
[20:53] <dob_> escott: think that's a good idea. I will try that
[20:54] <sunice> escott: good call
[20:54] <dob_> escott: Can i copy stuff like /dev or should i ignore dev proc etc and then just create empty folders?
[20:55] <HSarena> I mean the playback control area of my laptop
[20:55] <escott> dob_, you would ignore stuff like /dev, but the other thing you have to realize is that a dd of the system root is not a working system. its a dd. you have to go in and fix-up stuff in fstab and potentially elsewhere
[20:56] <toyman61> OpenShot video editor: Imported .VOB-file from DVD. Put it on the timeline, and tried to playback. No sound available.
[20:56] <escott> dob_, if you just dd the partition device you wouldn't get dev anyways
[20:56] <HSarena> Polah : I mean the playback control area of my laptop
[20:56] <toyman61>  OpenShot video editor: Imported .VOB-file from DVD. Put it on the timeline, and tried to playback. No sound available. The speaker icon is available on the visual part of the clip on the timeline. What do I do ?
[20:57] <leeping> guntbert, thanks for the tip.  Often I don't know where to search.  I know the name of the file / program and I want to locate it on the filesystem
[20:58] <leeping> Sometimes it's in /opt, sometimes /share, sometimes /usr, etc etc ...
[20:58] <guntbert> !fhs | leeping
[20:58] <nunuyabiz> can someone tell what repository I need to add to get /usr/bin/toc2cue for brasero?
[20:59] <escott> leeping, you might be able to point updatedb to a different updatedb.conf and keep all the stuff in your $HOME. i would check the man pages for those programs
[20:59] <escott> nunuyabiz, apt-file can help here
[20:59] <rdyco> i have windows installed. i am installing ubuntu as dual boot. when i get to the screen where on the bottom it ask  Device for boot loader installation: do i go with /dev/sda ATA WDC (1.0 TB) or /dev/sda1/ Windows 7 (loader) ?
[21:00] <guntbert> !info cdrdao | nunuyabiz
[21:00] <escott> nunuyabiz, ~:>  apt-file search toc2cue cdrdao: /usr/bin/toc2cue
[21:00] <leeping> escott, thank you.  I'll do what I can. :)
[21:00] <vigina> G
[21:00] <nunuyabiz> escott thanks
[21:00] <escott> rdyco, /dev/sda i think
[21:00] <Polah> What can I use to mass-convert FLAC to MP3 or another format?
[21:00] <leeping> guntbert, I have access to several different HPC clusters.  Some of them are running Red Hat, some CentOS, others Ubuntu.  And the location of the installed programs often depend on the administrators' decisions.  So even though Ubuntu itself might have a structured file system, I still need a general way to search for files.
[21:01] <plouffe_> the ubuntu logo right after the grub menu before the login screen has a super low resolution. How can I fix that?
[21:01] <EDinNY> how can I get a more "classic" interface on 11.04?
[21:01] <escott> Polah, a command line script to pipe wav data from flacplayer to lame
[21:01] <HSarena> sunice : I mean the playback control area of my laptop
[21:01] <guntbert> leeping: there is one : find :)
[21:01] <GordonGR> Polah: I'd say soundconverter, as well.
[21:01] <Polah> escott: And how exactly would I set that up?
[21:02] <rdyco> escott, will installing bootloader in /dev/ATA give me dual boot and not overwrite the ubuntu boot record?
[21:02] <astropirate> Anyone know of a high-end linux box dealer?
[21:02] <Echapa> hey people i am trying to connect a mini switch i need help to connected
[21:02] <astropirate> is there even a market for it?
[21:02] <rdyco> or does installing ubuntu boot loader in /dev/sda1 Windows 7  (loader) put it along side windows 7 or does this overwrite it?
[21:02] <leeping> guntbert, thanks but I think we've been over that -- running "find" on the entire filesystem takes forever.  It is much easier to run "updatedb" once per day and then have people use "locate".  When I was the administrator of a cluster, that's what I would do .. but I'm not the administrator of these new computers
[21:03] <escott> Polah, a) figure out what the flac command is to make wav output and then (b) pipe that to lame and then (c) put it inside the -exec argument to find. i'm afraid i cannot recommend a gui, because i dont know of any
[21:03] <EDinNY> red%blue
[21:03] <escott> rdyco, generally you put grub on the mbr and then the grub menu allows you to chainload windows. so that would entail installing ubuntu bootloader (grub) to /dev/sda
[21:04] <zykotick9_> astropirate, the market for "high end linux boxs" is called servers ;)  or workstations.  Neither of which you're probably looking for ;)  Good luck.
[21:04] <guntbert> leeping: I hear you - but this channel is for ubuntu support only - try what escott suggested
[21:04] <genii-around> astropirate: System76 has some pretty good stuff
[21:04] <leeping> guntbert, point taken.  Thanks
[21:04] <EDinNY> sagdjk
[21:04] <EDinNY> exit
[21:05] <sunice> astropirate: system76 is the best I know of
[21:05] <plouffe_> .
[21:05] <nunuyabiz> escott I did" sudo apt-get install apt-file     and it replied missing destination file after apt-file. Do I just need to put in an absolute path and use any folder?
[21:05] <escott> rdyco, putting grub on the partition boot record of a windows partition is almost certainly a bad idea
[21:05] <mongy> Polah, soundconverter is decent
[21:06] <escott> nunuyabiz, sounds like something got typoed. can you !paste the terminal session
[21:06] <Polah> mongy: Yeah, I've just got it, going to use find and xargs to copy it away
[21:06] <nunuyabiz> sudo apt-get install apt-file
[21:06] <nunuyabiz> nunuyabiz@nunuyabiz-desktop:~$ sudo apt=get install apt-file
[21:06] <nunuyabiz> [sudo] password for nunuyabiz:
[21:06] <nunuyabiz> install: missing destination file operand after `apt-file'
[21:06] <nunuyabiz> Try `install --help' for more information.
[21:06] <nunuyabiz> nunuyabiz@nunuyabiz-desktop:~$
[21:06] <FloodBot1> nunuyabiz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:06] <escott> !paste | nunuyabiz
[21:07] <escott> nunuyabiz, apt-get not apt=get
[21:07] <nunuyabiz> sorry
[21:07] <mongy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1096665    towards the bottom.  good suggestion
[21:07] <astropirate> genii-around:, sunice, zykotick9_ : I wanted to enter teh maket :D  asking arround linux users if such a thing is sustainable so far the answere is no :(
[21:08] <gebbione> here is another one
[21:08] <gebbione> how do u install fonts on ubuntu
[21:08] <zykotick9_> astropirate, that would be a question for offtopic
[21:09] <sunice> astropirate: yeah I've bought a couple machines for my office from system76. I think I may be one of the biggest purchasers... Not a big market
[21:09] <Jordan_U> !fonts | gebbione
[21:09] <g30> hi all latest update 11.10 remove all 32bit apps? cannot use any cannot even start them, wine,skype  ???? any idea? thanks
[21:09] <Polah> How can I use xargs to cp multiple files. I have xargs --arg-file=file cp, but cp requires the file first and then the destination afterwards, would appending the destination to all the lines in the argument file do the trick?
[21:10] <zykotick9_> g30, #ubuntu+1
[21:10] <nn52> hello
[21:10] <sunice> Hello
[21:10] <MonkeyDust> is it me you lokking for?
[21:10] <MonkeyDust> o
[21:10] <zeus> hi all, i ve just set up a raid device and now i have /dev/md0 . Do i have to partition it first of mkfs ?
[21:10] <rdyco> escott, windows is installed on /dev/sda2, ubuntu is going to be installed on /dev/sda3 at Device for boot loader installation: do i choose /dev/sda ATA WDC (1.0TB) or /dev/sda3 where ubuntu is going to be installed
[21:11] <nn52> i've litte problem with chromium and google-chrome
[21:11] <Jordan_U> Polah: It's usually better to use the -exec argument of find rather than find + xargs.
[21:11] <Jordan_U> Polah: What are you actually trying to accomplish?
[21:11] <escott> rdyco, thats a different question from before. ubuntu's root partition "/" should be set to /dev/sda3. the bootloader should be on /dev/sda
[21:12] <sunice> nn52: interesting?
[21:12] <Polah> Jordan_U: I'm using find to find a number of .flac files and cp them to a subdirectory. I've got it working with xargs now anyway, I just appended the destination to each line
[21:12] <nn52> http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/3599/zrzutekranu1om.png
[21:12] <nunuyabiz> escott I ran the command and got a box that said, "apt-file update needed" when I ran that action, it gave me another box that said, "There was an error in creating the child process for this Terminal."
[21:12] <escott> nunuyabiz, again a weird error so I'd like to see the terminal session
[21:13] <nn52> idk why letter is on letter
[21:13] <nn52> no ideas?
[21:14] <sunice> nn52: I looked at the image and did not understand the question. Gotta be specific with us slow folk.
[21:14] <Jordan_U> Polah: find /search/path/ -iname '*.flac' -exec echo cp '{}' /path/to/destination ';'
[21:14] <Jordan_U> Polah: Sorry, that was for testing, remove the 'echo'.
[21:14] <nn52> sunice, Letter is on Letter
[21:15] <sunice> oh overlapping?
[21:15] <Polah> Jordan_U: I'll try it if this fails. I just had to escape some more characters. Thanks for the line though, I'll use it in future
[21:15] <nn52> yup
[21:15] <sunice> nn52: only on that website? does the same thing happen in other browsers?
[21:15] <mongy> Polah, try "for f in *;do flac -cd $f |lame -b 128 - $f.mp3;done
[21:15] <TuRnc04tZ> hey guys
[21:15] <nn52> not... on all korean language websites
[21:16] <nn52> and  only in google-chrome and chromium
[21:16] <nn52> firefox its Ok
[21:16] <TuRnc04tZ> i have a quick question. I installed xfce on ubuntu 11.04 and i wanted to know if its possible to use KDM instead of the XFCE login manager
[21:16] <mongy> Polah, assuming you have lame and flac installed
[21:16] <Jordan_U> Polah: The reason why this method is preffered is that find passes the filenames directly, so no matter what characters are in the filenames (even newlines) they will be passed properly to cp.
[21:16] <Polah> mongy: To convert it? I'll try in a minute, just copying all the FLACs away first. They're mixed in with MP3s, so I need to shift them to do anything to them. Silly Xbox doesn't support FLAC ):
[21:16] <Shirakawasuna> TuRnc04tZ: Yes, it is.
[21:16] <TuRnc04tZ> Shirakawasuna, how?
[21:16] <zeus> hi all, i ve just set up a raid device and now i have /dev/md0 . Do i have to partition it first of mkfs ?
[21:16] <TuRnc04tZ> im googling around but i cant find anything that is relevant for this new system
[21:17] <zykotick9_> TuRnc04tZ, i imagine KDM would require all the KDE libraries which could be fairly large
[21:17] <nunuyabiz> escott can I put screen shots in paste bin, because there is basically no terminal text
[21:17] <Polah> Jordan_U: It takes each name and puts it in quotes automatically? Compared to xargs which I had to escape with?
[21:17] <escott> !paste > nunuyabiz
[21:17] <Shirakawasuna> TuRnc04tZ: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[21:17] <sunice> nn52: appears to be know issue http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=82400
[21:17] <TuRnc04tZ> Shirakawasuna, i ran that and nothing happened
[21:17] <Shirakawasuna> TuRnc04tZ: is gdm installed?
[21:18] <Jordan_U> Polah: It takes each name and creates an array of strings which is passed directly to cp. There is no quoting or escaping needed as find is calling cp directly rather than threw the shell.
[21:18] <TuRnc04tZ> should be
[21:18] <TuRnc04tZ> it was a fresh ubuntu install
[21:18] <TuRnc04tZ> let me check
[21:18] <Shirakawasuna> hmm
[21:18] <sunice> nn52: didn't read all, but browser support not my specialty sorry.
[21:18] <TuRnc04tZ> yeah, gdm is at newest version
[21:18] <Shirakawasuna> TuRnc04tZ: I expect you should at least get an error message or something when running that configuration command
[21:18] <Shirakawasuna> TuRnc04tZ: is KDM installed?
[21:18] <TuRnc04tZ> im running xfce tho so it may not do anything
[21:18] <Shirakawasuna> TuRnc04tZ: and just to check, why do you want KDM?
[21:19] <Polah> Jordan_U: I see. I'll use it in future then, thanks for the information
[21:19] <TuRnc04tZ> i just like how it looks better
[21:19] <Jordan_U> Polah: You're welcome.
[21:19] <TuRnc04tZ> wait
[21:19] <TuRnc04tZ> yep
[21:19] <TuRnc04tZ> just came up kdm
[21:19] <TuRnc04tZ> checking now
[21:19] <FloodBot1> TuRnc04tZ: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:19] <TuRnc04tZ> brb, Thanks Shirakawasuna
[21:19] <slacknoob> So I have set /dev/sda2 as my /home when I installed Ubuntu. Now I want to say /dev/sda1 is my home, but it seems I can't handle with the tool /etc/fstab tells me to use to get the UUID code of the device. Could anyone help me?
[21:19] <daveinlv> Is us.archive.ubuntu.com down? Have been trying to update all afternoon and I keep getting a "temporary failure resolving  us.archive.ubuntu.com".... Good connectivity otherwise...
[21:20] <escott> slacknoob, sudo blkid
[21:20] <slacknoob> escott: whatever I do, it doesn't reply me anything.
[21:20] <sunice> daveinlv: just ran update on one of my servers. did not see error.
[21:20] <Shirakawasuna> daveinlv: I can ping it
[21:20] <Polah> mongy: -b 128 is the bitrate for the MP3 right?
[21:21] <mongy> Polah, yeah, bit rubbish I know
[21:21] <escott> slacknoob, try sudo blkid -p
[21:22] <daveinlv> hmmm.. ok guess it must be me... thanks!!
[21:22] <Polah> mongy: No issues with changing that to 320?
[21:22] <frozen_> hi guys, got this error "/proc is not mounted; some java apps may fail" installing sun-java6-bin on ubuntu 10.04 84 bit vps. any help? Need it for a funambol server (installation error: [java] Could not create the Java virtual machine.)
[21:22] <slacknoob> escott: ty
[21:22] <mongy> Polah, nope
[21:22] <escott> slacknoob, that requires a device sudo blkid -p /dev/sda#
[21:22] <Polah> mongy: Good, thanks.
[21:23] <escott> frozen_, check the output of mount if procfs is not mounted on /proc you have some problems with your system. add it to your fstab
[21:23] <slacknoob> escott: yeah yeah, it worked.
[21:23] <slacknoob> escott: so now I got the UUID replaced it in /etc/fstab and it's ready, right?
[21:23] <sunice> frozen: cat /etc/fstab
[21:23] <slacknoob> When I reboot, it should mount /dev/sda1 as /home
[21:23] <Polah> Ooh, 4.7GB of FLAC, this is going to take a while
[21:23] <escott> slacknoob, it should
[21:23] <frozen_> ok, there is no /proc in it, but there are some files in /proc?
[21:24] <The_BROS> Hello!
[21:24] <slacknoob> escott: ty
[21:24] <Polah> How can I change spaces in a filename to _ with a for loop?
[21:24] <escott> frozen_, its actually proc on /proc not procfs (my mistake)
[21:25] <The_BROS> Do I need to register my nickname if I can type now without registration?
[21:25] <IdleOne> The_BROS: no but some channels require you to be registered and identified to be able to join.
[21:26] <Shirakawasuna> wget --mirror is the best thing ever invented
[21:26] <Shirakawasuna> evre
[21:26] <Shirakawasuna> *ever
[21:26] <escott> frozen_, that doesnt mean anything. is proc mounted on /proc
[21:26] <The_BROS> IdleOne: yup. But how about this channel?
[21:26] <IdleOne> The_BROS: not at this time.
[21:26] <davis> is there anything I can do to config grub so it will show the boot choice menu? for some reason its blank.
[21:27] <escott> davis, /etc/default/grub (the timeout) then rerun update-grub
[21:27] <davis> escott: I did that.
[21:27] <AlessonZaire> Does anyone here have experience connecting on QQ with pidgin?
[21:28] <davis> escott: in that file, I changed the linux command line to remove quiet and splash
[21:28] <{-_-}> is there any way to install grub2 in ubuntu 10.10?
[21:28] <davis> but this is before loading the kernel, its gthe actuall boot choice screen which is blank.
[21:29] <nunuyabiz> escott here is a paste of the apt-file result. Do I just need to unzip the file, or do I need to run something to
[21:29] <escott> davis, well that makes the kernel log messages and theoretically prevents plymouth (the 5 little red dots)
[21:29] <IdleOne> ubottu: tell The_BROS about register
[21:29] <soreau> ! grub2 | {-_-}
[21:30] <escott> nunuyabiz, you didn't give a link
[21:30] <nunuyabiz> escott http://paste.ubuntu.com/691078/
[21:30] <soreau> IdleOne: Oh cool, I didn't know ubottu responded to that..
[21:30] <AuroraNites21> hi
[21:30] <davis> let me enable a console terminal instead of graphics term. see if that helps. brb
[21:30] <slacknoob> Hello there. I have /dev/sda2 as my /home partition. I want /dev/sda1 to be the new /home, though. Mounting it on /mnt/example and the new one in /mnt/newpart and doing 'cp -rf -p /mnt/example/* /mnt/newpart' should do the job? Because I just did cp -rf and when I booted with the new partition being /home, Ubuntu and other applications complained
[21:31] <astruasdh> please, guys... is it better to use aptitude or apt-get?
[21:31] <IdleOne> astruasdh: which ever you prefer, both work equally well
[21:31] <escott> nunuyabiz, sorry "apt-file search toc2cue" is what you type cdrdao is the answer
[21:31] <ozzloy> i'm trying to PXE boot a lenovo X1.  following this guide: http://www.howtoforge.com/setting-up-a-pxe-install-server-on-ubuntu-9.10-p3 up to the part where i have to restart the dhcp3-server, but there is no dhcp3-server in /etc/init.d/  please help
[21:31] <bsmith093> im trying to convert cbz to pdf, but calibre, is 1) incredibly slow, and 2) somehow manages to scramble the order of the pages
[21:31] <Jordan_U> !separatehome | slacknoob
[21:31] <astruasdh> IdleOne thank you
[21:32] <slacknoob> ty Jordan_U
[21:32] <{-_-}> is there anyway to make grub show what is being loaded instead of just a blank screen?
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> astruasdh: http://superuser.com/questions/198838/apt-get-vs-aptitude#198841
[21:32] <Jordan_U> slacknoob: You're welcome.
[21:32] <urist_> what is the point of having a partition for /home in ubuntu?
[21:32] <escott> urist_, portability. space management
[21:33] <astruasdh> I am familiar with apt-get, but I had the idea that Ubuntu relied mostly on aptitude
[21:33] <nunuyabiz> escott sorry I'm just not familiar with this is cdrdao a repository where I can get toc2cue?
[21:33] <escott> urist_, and upgradeability
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> urist_: easier to backup, fort one thing
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> for*
[21:33] <escott> nunuyabiz, no its the program you install. apt-file search fileneeded; suggests that package /path/to/fileneeded; so sudo apt-get install package
[21:33] <urist_> escott, so if im installing ubuntu on my other machine and i have about 34Gb left after partitioning my swap area, how much should i dedicate to /home and how much to / (root)?
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> urist_: easier to backup and to upgrade
[21:34] <nunuyabiz> escott thanks
[21:34] <urist_> thanks MonkeyDust and escott :)
[21:35] <gebbione> anyone knows a pdf printer for ubuntu?
[21:35] <urist_> MonkeyDust: so if im installing ubuntu on my other machine and i have about 34Gb left after partitioning my swap area, how much should i dedicate to /home and how much to / (root)?
[21:36] <Polah> urist_: You don't need to split up your /home from the main partition, you know
[21:36] <ozzloy> AuroraNites21, ask your question in here so everyone can see it
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> urist_: i'd say root about 10GB, swap about 2GB and the rest for /home
[21:36] <escott> urist_, i would think 10gb is probably enough for /, but the question to ask is how much do i need for /home. if you guess the sizes you have to deal with resizing which is a pain
[21:37] <urist_> i see... since both of you said 10Gb, I'll go with that :) thanks alot guys
[21:37] <escott> urist_, on my system im using 12gb (no music or media files). home is ~3gb var (apt archives) is 2.5 and the rest is /
[21:38] <Jordan_U> {-_-}: What exactly do you see when you boot?
[21:39] <Cyrax5> How can I install open office in ubuntu 11.04?
[21:39] <Cyrax5> I've already got libre office but I prefer open office
[21:40] <Jordan_U> Cyrax5: What do you prefer about Open Office? They're practically identical, especially when you consider that even when Ubuntu shipped something called "
[21:40] <escott> Cyrax5, its not clear that openoffice will continue to be supported (maybe it will be now that there is an apache project), but that why the switch to libre was made. they shouldn't be very different at this time
[21:40] <Jordan_U> Cyrax5: ... Called "Open Office" it was the go-oo fork.
[21:41] <urist_> cool... thanks for the advice escott and MonkeyDust
[21:41] <escott> urist_, i should say that after considering all the benefits of having a separate /home, I don't find any worth the hassle. I just make sure i keep good backups (which you should be doing anyways)
[21:45] <Polah> Would it be possible to execute a for loop to replace all upper case letters with the same lower case letters?
[21:45] <Polah> Without doing each letter individually, that is
[21:46] <macer1> Hi :D
[21:47] <macer1> If I want to join Ubuntu Members, where to begin?
[21:47] <macer1> who to mail?
[21:47] <IdleOne> !membership
[21:48] <escott> Polah, sed can do that
[21:48] <Drecondius> HEEEEELPPPPP!!!!!
[21:48] <macer1> IdleOne, so first I need my wiki page?
[21:48] <Drecondius> Imagewriter isn't seeing any of my .iso files
[21:49] <escott> Polah, as can tr try either "sed upper to lower case" or "tr upper to lower case" in google
[21:49] <IdleOne> macer1: first you read the info at the link provided.
[21:49] <macer1> I readed
[21:49] <IdleOne> macer1: ok follow the instructions
[21:49] <macer1> ok...so i readed that I need my wiki page
[21:50] <ModusPwnens> Does anyone here know how to open up the java console?
[21:50] <Drecondius> crap
[21:50] <Polah> escott: Yes, I've just found a small script that uses tr
[21:50] <escott> Polah, 90% of the time when you get to the point of writing bash for loops you can accomplish the same with the correct command
[21:50] <Flannel> macer1: That's correct.
[21:50] <Drecondius> any other tools for writing to usb drives in ubuntu
[21:50] <Drecondius> other than imagewriter
[21:50] <qin> Polah: echo WOW | tr '[:upper:]' '[:lower:]'
[21:51] <escott> !info wodim | Drecondius
[21:51] <Ramir00> completely remove ubuntu desktop kubuntu 10.10.
[21:51] <Ramir00> Remove the start kubuntu
[21:53] <Drecondius> will that allow me to write an iso to a usb drive though?
[21:53] <Ramir00> how to recover splash for ubuntu 10.10
[21:53] <escott> Drecondius, it should, just need to identify the device file to pass to the dev argument
[21:53] <Drecondius> i was afraid you'd say something like that.
[21:53] <Ramir00> Remove the start kubuntu, for ubuntu, recover usplash
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> Drecondius: try unetbootin
[21:54] <GordonGR> bye bye guys, gotta go to bed. Night.
[21:54] <daavis> i want to have only avant-window-navigator .. i changed my choice in gnome.session but nothing changed
[21:55] <daavis> so.. not panel called "compiz"
[21:55] <Drecondius> my only issue is that it isn't a "Live" cd as it is a full on installer dvd
[21:55] <MonkeyDust> daavis: start as classic gnome and don't use the classic panel
[21:55] <Drecondius> used a tool in windoze and lo and behold it didn't work
[21:55] <Polah> qin: Yes, I found a for loop that included that and ran it over my files. It's done it
[21:56] <MonkeyDust> Drecondius: you want to install on a usb stick?
[21:56] <daavis> well.. with a classic gnome there is no compiz effects and it has no mac style on panels (if you understand what i mean)
[21:56] <Drecondius> yah
[21:56] <escott> Drecondius, im confused by what you are asking. are you trying to burn to a usb cd burner, or make a bootable usb thumb flash drive
[21:56] <Drecondius> bootable usb flash
[21:57] <Drecondius> sorry to be so confusing
[21:57] <Drecondius> i have another distro but it's not a live installer it's simply an installer
[21:57] <MonkeyDust> Drecondius: and is it the iso of a bootable system?
[21:57] <Drecondius> yup
[21:57] <MonkeyDust> you say it's not a live system
[21:58] <Drecondius> nope just an installer as it has multiple desktops
[21:58] <MonkeyDust> Drecondius: you can't turn it into a live cd, so what you want is not possible
[22:00] <Drecondius> not nesicarily true, if it will boot from a dvd it has to be able to run from a usb. as does the ubuntu installer
[22:00] <Drecondius> gawd i hope i just chose the right drive
[22:00] <Drecondius> i'll know in a min if my system hangs
[22:00] <escott> Drecondius, thats not always true. as bioses treat cd and usb media differently
[22:01] <escott> Drecondius, i think that is what ubootnetin is supposed to do is emulate the cd/usb difference somehow
[22:01] <Drecondius> O
[22:02] <ethernet-> haillo
[22:02] <Drecondius> find out in a min if unetbootin worked back in a few
[22:04] <newb> I've got an old hard drive connected to my comp via external/usb. How do I view what's on it?
[22:06] <sunice> newb: mount it. first figure out the partition, then make a dir to mount, then mount
[22:06] <sunice> newb: may also need to specify the partition type
[22:07] <newb> It's from an old Compaq with XP.
[22:08] <newb> It shows on my main screen.
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> newb: in ubuntu, type mkdir blah, then mount the disk to blah
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[22:10] <sunice> newb: You may need to get the ntfs partition libs
[22:11] <newb> ok
[22:11] <newb> I'll be back later to let you know how it went.
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> newb: you should be able to click the partition in the left panel of nautilus and get access
[22:14] <mercury^> Hey! When trying to use vdpau via mplayer -ao alsa -vo vdpau -vc ffh264vdpau, I get:
[22:14] <mercury^> [vdpau] Error when calling vdp_device_create_x11: 1
[22:14] <mercury^> I have nvidia-current and libvdpau1 installed.
[22:16] <Brutus-> Hi, is there a folder called python anywhere?
[22:16] <jeremux> i dt know
[22:16] <uns0b1ll> cheap and dirty script to zip or tar and rsync to remote location in one line ?
[22:16] <jrib> Brutus-: why?
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> Brutus-: type locate python|less
[22:17] <Brutus-> i just terminate my search, i found it after 15 min
[22:17] <escott> uns0b1ll, you wouldn't be able to do that in one line. as rsync doesn't read off stdin (AFAIK)
[22:17] <Brutus-> thanks anyway
[22:17] <jrib> Brutus-: what do you want to do exactly?
[22:17] <Polah> uns0b1ll: zip is compressive. Do you want to archive or archive and compress?
[22:20] <Brutus-> jrib, i'm looking for the python/service.py script
[22:22] <artazy> hi all
[22:22] <Pici> Brutus-: Is that part of a package that you installed?
[22:23] <Brutus-> Pici, no.
[22:23] <marriedman624> I'm trying to figure out partitions on my linux machine........currently running 9.10 (i know EOL), and I want to dual boot Windows 7...........I also want to have another partition to test out out linux distros, but I can't create more than 4 partitions
[22:23] <marriedman624> so can I take the current 9.10 partition and divide it into logical partitions and install two distros on that?
[22:24] <Guest44968> Hi so i was wondering how to install wine;
[22:24] <urlin2u> marriedman624, W7 needs a logical though for the OS=c to boot
[22:24] <escott> marriedman624, it would help to know your existing partition layout to be able to advise. can you !paste the contents of /proc/partitons to us
[22:24] <urlin2u> marriedman624, sorry primamry outside the exteneded
[22:25] <escott> Guest44968, sudo apt-get install wine
[22:25] <Guest44968> escott: thank u
[22:25] <jrib> !wine > Guest44968
[22:25] <cyberpork> ciao!
[22:25] <cyberpork> c'è qualcuno che può aiutarmi?
[22:25] <escott> !br | cyberpork
[22:25] <jrib> !it | cyberpork
[22:26] <Pici> Brutus-: I have about a 100 service.py files on my install.
[22:26] <cyberpork> ok thanks
[22:26] <mordof> Hi, I'm wondering if the Window List is available through some form in the command line?
[22:26] <Brutus-> Pici, i know, i found them :(
[22:26] <marriedman624> escott: I'm not on my linux comp right now, it's running gparted livecd
[22:26] <marriedman624> urlin2u: not sure I understand what you mean
[22:27] <escott> marriedman624, if you are running a (modern) linux of any kind it has a /proc/partitions
[22:27] <jrib> mordof: maybe wmctrl
[22:28] <marriedman624> escott: yeah, but I'm not on my linux comp right now so I can't get that for you
[22:28] <escott> marriedman624, generally I would suggest "sda1 /boot 1gb sda2 windows Xgb sda4 extended sda5 ubuntu root sda6 free space for whatever sda7 ... sdaN swap"
[22:28] <urlin2u> marriedman624, windows will only boot from a primary partition, logical partitions are what is inside a extended partiton.
[22:28] <mordof> jrib: ah, helpful :) thanks
[22:29] <marriedman624> yeah, so I was going to give windows its own primary and use two logicals (inside a primary) for different distros of linux.............is that possible
[22:29] <marriedman624> escott: which of those are primary and which are logical?
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> marriedman624: absolutely
[22:29] <escott> marriedman624, 1,2,4 are primary 5+ are logical
[22:29] <urlin2u> marriedman624, logicals do in a extended parition .
[22:30] <urlin2u> go*
[22:30] <escott> marriedman624, if you create what i suggest the numbers would be 1,2,3 and 5+
[22:30] <marriedman624> escott: ok, so all the linux stuff is on a primary, just divided up between logical partitions
[22:30] <marriedman624> extended = primary, sorry using the wrong word
[22:31] <davis> escott:i have a grub boot menu now
[22:31] <marriedman624> and I supposed I would install grub onto sda1?
[22:31] <zvacet> marriedman624: put linux on extended witch you will divide to logical partitions
[22:32] <escott> marriedman624, yes all the linux inside logicals inside the extended. i like to put my /boot at the front of the disk and on a primary. I think that used to be needed for some older bioses, its probably not needed these days but I still do it. the main benefit of having a /boot partition is you can corrupt you linux partition and still boot windows
[22:32] <zvacet> marriedman624: yes,grub on sda
[22:32] <zvacet> marriedman624:  on MBR
[22:32] <escott> marriedman624, grub goes to the mbr so sda not sda1
[22:32] <davis> so, now i can see the different boot choices in the grub menu
[22:33] <davis> but I want to be able to see the kernel boot messages as well
[22:33] <urlin2u> escott, having a boot partition is not needed you can boot windows with its bootloader by reloading the mbr with one command, or lilo.
[22:33] <escott> davis, what did you have to do to make that work?
[22:33] <davis> in /etc/default/grub there is a setting for hidden menu
[22:33] <escott> davis, the noquiet nosplash option should get you kernel messages. I find my nosplash gets ignored (11.10)
[22:33] <davis> i commented it out
[22:34] <Deihmos> why is the ubuntu UI so sluggish?
[22:34] <davis> ok let me add noquiet nosplash to kernel command line
[22:34] <davis> brb
[22:34] <escott> urlin2u, if you grub.conf gets corrupted how do you tell grub to chainload windows (without getting a windows boot disk and running the windows boot restore commands)
[22:34] <Deihmos> is there any way to make the ubuntu UI run fast
[22:34] <marriedman624> ok, i'll see if I can move all my partitions around to what was suggested..............can I change the sda numbers of current partitions??
[22:34] <zvacet> Deihmos:  can you be more descriptive?
[22:34] <urlin2u> escott, lilo
[22:35] <Deihmos> seems a but laggy especially coming from win 7
[22:35] <urlin2u> escott, all you need is the recovery disc which you can make in windows 7u other wise.
[22:35] <escott> urlin2u, you are missing my point. you use grub on your mbr, but grub.conf gets corrupted because you dont have a seperate /boot. how do you boot to windows *WITHOUT* a recovery disk
[22:35] <Deihmos> seems not to be gpu accelerated
[22:35] <mordof> jrib: it doesn't appear to show any information about which tasks it chooses to display. I find it hard to believe it parses them by name for that..
[22:35] <thomad> applications trying to get audio input are getting the output instead. I"t's probably something simple i just dont know what
[22:36] <escott> urlin2u, that is why i keep a /boot partition, just in case something goes wrong with my ubuntu root partition
[22:36] <astruasdh> please, I have a server with Ubuntu 10.04LTS 64-bit. When I aptitude full-upgrade, it updates some packages... amog them, grub-pc. It shows me a screen to select if I want to install or not. And the only option that works is not to install. Is it a bug?
[22:36] <urlin2u> escott, with LILO using a ubuntu disc to load the mbr with it boots straight to the Windows like it was using the MS bootloader.
[22:36] <jrib> astruasdh: what screen exactly?
[22:37] <marriedman624> is it possible to access home files in linux while running windows?
[22:37] <urlin2u> escott, I'm just saying here that having the boot partition is okay in yur scenareio but that scenario is flawed.
[22:37] <astruasdh> jrib that ncurses one, with blue background, that appears during the aptitude procedure.
[22:37] <jrib> astruasdh: what does it say exactly?
[22:37] <thomad> can someone help me?
[22:38] <Wild_> Anyone here?
[22:38] <jrib> !helpme| thomad
[22:38] <Wild_> Hey, I need to make a new account, that only has access to /var/www (to edit the website) via SFTP or FTP, what do I do? (and yes, I googled it)
[22:38] <escott> urlin2u, how so?
[22:38] <marriedman624> escott: so if I have the /boot partition, do I install grub on there or let mbr install on there?
[22:39] <Wild_> Hey, I need to make a new account, that only has access to /var/www (to edit the website) via SFTP or FTP, what do I do? (and yes, I googled it)
[22:39] <escott> marriedman624, the /boot partition is for the kernel, and the grub config files and later stage modules. grub stage1 goes to the mbr
[22:39] <astruasdh> is 32-bit versions more stable than the 64-bit one?
[22:39] <qin> Wild_: Who own /var/www ?
[22:39] <itaylor57> astruasdh, both are stable
[22:40] <Wild_> qin: what do you mean? The only person with access to it is Root
[22:40] <escott> marriedman624, when grub asks where to install it always say the mbr "/dev/sda"
[22:40] <earthmeLon> Having troubles getting my SATA HDD to work using an eSATAp->SATA adapter.  dmesg:  http://pastie.org/private/vokargvtdc0lgwbfunlg
[22:40] <qin> Wild_: ls -l (shows owner and group)
[22:40] <jrib> astruasdh: not really, no
[22:40] <marriedman624> ok, i'll see what I can do
[22:41] <Wild_> says "total 0"
[22:41] <marriedman624> escott: thanks for the help
[22:41] <astruasdh> I got this message while aptitude full-upgrade at grub-pc package: http://pastebin.com/ruPsbiKt
[22:41] <mordof> jrib: nevermind, figured it out - the source to this program will be very helpful :) thanks
[22:42] <astruasdh> If I hit "yes", the same screen appear again. If I hit no, it do not install the grub-pc. Is it a bug?
[22:42] <Wild_> qin: says "total 0"
[22:42] <macer1> astruasdh, what ubuntu version?
[22:42] <martinjlowm> uh question, how come when I attempt to go to the ctrl+alt+f1-6 terminals they show up blank with a purplish bar at the top?
[22:42] <astruasdh> 10.04LTS
[22:43] <qin> Wild_: man chown; man chmod, you can change ownership of /var/www.
[22:43] <macer1> astruasdh, i think you can not install it if your bootloader works now
[22:43] <jrib> mordof: no problem.  You should be able to manipulate that information in your favorite scripting language too (like python for example has python-wnck)
[22:43] <Spy> hello
[22:43] <Wild_> qin: How do I make a user that ONLY has access to FTP & /var/www though?
[22:44] <jrib> martinjlowm: bugs.ubuntu.com I've seen bugs about that issue there
[22:44] <martinjlowm> okay thx I'll take a look
[22:44] <astruasdh> macer1 this 10.04TLS is the latest ubuntu version?
[22:44] <AuroraNites21> hi
[22:44] <jrib> astruasdh: you are selecting yes with arrow keys and then pressing enter?
[22:44] <zvacet> astruasdh: no latest is 11.04
[22:44] <macer1> astruasdh, there are LTS versions and normal versions.
[22:45] <macer1> latest LTS is 10.04
[22:45] <escott> Wild_, you have to do a bunch of things. (a) set the users shell to /dev/null (b) configure your sftp server to chroot them into that folder (c) tweak permissions on that folder to allow them to add/remove files (d) anything else to restrict their abilities if they break the ftp server
[22:45] <qin> Wild_: man adduser
[22:45] <macer1> normal release is 11.04
[22:46] <astruasdh> macer1 got it... it is a weird cloud solution I have access to. Nothing to do: this version or centos... I prefere ubuntu. Do you think I should try with 32-bit version?
[22:46] <Wild_> qin: I'm new to ubuntu, can you PM me so you can help me with the command proccess?
[22:46] <qin> Wild_: And why would you want to use ftp?
[22:46] <escott> martinjlowm, is getty running?
[22:46] <qin> Wild_: Better stay in channel.
[22:46] <martinjlowm> hm let's see
[22:46] <Wild_> qin: cause I'm having a person work on my website and I dont want himt o access anything else.
[22:47] <macer1> astruasdh, you are running this ubuntu in cloud?
[22:47] <qin> Wild_: Do you know that there is free hosting with php and mysql?
[22:48] <Wild_> qin: really? Dude, I want to use my server.
[22:48] <Wild_> qin: not helping.
[22:48] <astruasdh> macer1 yeah... no option. is it weird?
[22:48] <astruasdh> macer1 it will be the webserver
[22:49] <macer1> I think that expains everything :D
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> Wild_: make a new group and add the users you want to access the folder in the group, then assign that group as the group-owner of the folder
[22:49] <astruasdh> macer1 what? too weird?
[22:49] <martinjlowm> escott: nope, I see no getty
[22:49] <macer1> if server has its own bootloader and kernel, there can be no place to install grub, like MBR.
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> Wild_: give read access to everyone else and set the owner as your user
[22:49] <escott> martinjlowm, see if you can start the getty service
[22:50] <escott> martinjlowm, sudo service tty1 start
[22:50] <Wild_> ActionParsnip: I'm new to ubunto, could you PM me to help me a little bit better?
[22:50] <kurt> coucou
[22:50] <qin> Wild_: So make user (not admin) and let him use ssh to upload files to vhost and from there you do your job, of add him to group owning /var/www and set proper permission and have regular backups.
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> Wild_: look into chown and chmod
[22:50] <astruasdh> macer1 do you think it is safe not to install grub and keep going?
[22:50] <root> hi all
[22:50] <qin> of/or
[22:51] <astruasdh> macer1 i really want to keep the ubuntu updated
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> Guest69284: running IRC clients as root is not wise at all
[22:51] <Guest69284> fdgf
[22:51] <astruasdh> not to update is not an option for me
[22:51] <Calinou> lol
[22:51] <Guest69284> dggfdgfgfgfgf
[22:51] <Calinou> why run it as roof?
[22:51] <Calinou> we got the average troll
[22:51] <qin> Wild_: ftp is pointless complication.
[22:51] <martinjlowm> escott: ah tty1, then yes it is already running
[22:51] <martinjlowm> tried restarting it
[22:52] <martinjlowm> and it has no effect
[22:52] <Wild_> qin: pm me please, I dont want to deal with all this chat I cant focus on your help!
[22:52] <Guest69284> hi need helpp for cracking wp2
[22:52] <Guest69284> :D
[22:52] <Guest69284> alooooooooooooo
[22:52] <Guest69284> alguien que hable español
[22:52] <FloodBot1> Guest69284: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:52] <kaffien> this is an ssd derive i'm just trying to verify trim is enabled but  hdparm is not cooperating
[22:52] <MonkeyDust> !es| Guest69284
[22:52] <escott> martinjlowm, so upstart things that getty is running on tty1 because the service started but getty is not a running process (ps aux | grep getty returns nothing) then most likely getty is crashing somehow
[22:52] <macer1> astruasdh, i think it is safe to not install grub.
[22:53] <kaffien> why does   hdparm -v /dev/sdb  spit out this?  " HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Invalid exchange"   ?
[22:53] <escott> martinjlowm, upstart thinks... don't know why i keep doing that
[22:53] <chadwin> para que quieres que hablan en espanol
[22:53] <escott> !es | chadwin
[22:53] <Guest69284> ubuntu-es
[22:53] <plummerb> Whoever named SNMP with "simple" needs a good wacking.
[22:53] <Polah> macer1, astruasdh if you do not install GRUB then when your install is finished you will be unable to boot into your system.
[22:53] <qin> Wild_: I much better in channel since my ideascan be countered by ActionParsnip or escott. First paste in paste.ubuntu.com output of: ls -l /var/www/
[22:53] <martinjlowm> escott: I see, perhaps a conflict between two services then
[22:54] <plummerb> Anyone know the SNMP command to find out what MIB's are loaded/being used?
[22:54] <martinjlowm> I had it working just last week iirc
[22:54] <martinjlowm> so it must have been changes I've made since then
[22:54] <Guest69284> :( now player in chat español
[22:54] <escott> martinjlowm, well its not a conflict. tty1 service should start getty on tty1. evidently its not running. so getty isn't starting or getty is crashing
[22:55] <astruasdh> waht repositores should I enable in sources.list? lucid restricted, lucid restricted sources, and the security for each one?
[22:55] <Wild_> qin: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3202 2011-09-16 16:17 index.html
[22:55] <w30> Is there any way to put the Unity launcher strip a the bottom of the desktop?
[22:55] <plummerb> Or can I assume that if I get no response that the MIB I need isn't loaded?
[22:55] <Guest69284> monkeydusk not speak spanish :D
[22:55] <Polah> astruasdh: What sort of system are you going to be running?
[22:55] <astruasdh> Polah webserver
[22:56] <Polah> astruasdh: Universe, security and perhaps multiverse should be all you need
[22:56] <astruasdh> Polah in sources.list there is a note that ubuntu security do not work with universe... is it true?
[22:57] <qin> Wild_: ok, it means that index.html is owned by root, and group root. Try: sudo chown your_username your_username /var/www/ && cd /var/www && cp index.html index.html_old
[22:58] <Polah> astruasdh: Uhh, that shouldn't be right. Universe/Multiverse aren't supported by security is for security updates. You can probably skip universe and multiverse actually. security, get main restricted and perhaps -updates restricted
[22:58] <Wild_> qin: username of the person using the ftp?
[22:58] <phong_> hi guys
[22:58] <qin> Wild_: No yours.
[22:58] <Wild_> qin: i dont have one. just root.
[22:59] <Wild_> qin: and Im setting up ftp to someone else besides me
[22:59] <Polah> astruasdh, Apache, php and mysql are in the main repo, no need for universe I think.
[22:59] <qin> Wild_: ok. whatis ftp user username.
[22:59] <Guest69284> need help for cracking wp2 :D
[22:59] <phong_> is there a ftp client                                            for ubuntu?
[23:00] <qin> Wild_: 1. You shall not connect as root (with no reason)
[23:00] <Loaferleach> wee
[23:00] <astruasdh> Polah got it! I will try now 32-bit version to see if the same grub-pc trouble happens. Otherwise I will have to select no to install and pray (I have no data there yet)
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> Guest69284: ask in #backtrack-linux or ##networking
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> phong_: nautilus can do it, or you can use gftp or filezilla
[23:02] <Polah> astruasdh, what's the problem with GRUB?
[23:02] <escott> Wild_, an ftp server does NOT require an account on the system. properly configured the ftp server can fork and setuid to nobody and execute commands as nobody
[23:02] <escott> Wild_, so start with your ftp server and work out from there
[23:03] <AuroraNites21> hi
[23:04] <escott> phong_, there are hundreds of ftp clients including the simple "ftp"
[23:05] <astruasdh> Polah when I aptitude full-upgrade, it shows this message at grub-pc configuration: http://pastebin.com/ruPsbiKt. If I hit no, the same screen appear. I am forced to click yes.
[23:06] <escott> astruasdh, after the upgrade run the grub-install script then
[23:07] <Polah> astruasdh, yes, what escott said. Install it manually afterwards.
[23:07] <escott> astruasdh, if things go south you can follow the grub restore instructions in !grub
[23:07] <escott> !grub | astruasdh
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> astruasdh: i'd go for it, if the system doesn't boot you can aways boot liveCD and instate the boot loader again
[23:08] <escott> !ask | AuroraNites21
[23:08] <Polah> AuroraNites21, don't message me please. Talk in this channel.
[23:08] <AuroraNites21> ok
[23:08] <escott> !pm | AuroraNites21
[23:08] <AuroraNites21> sorry soryr
[23:09] <brandon__> Hello
[23:09] <bambanx> hello guys  how i can search a specific word on a specific files of folders
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> bambanx: sure, use grep
[23:10] <escott> bambanx, grep -r pattern /folder
[23:10] <dikidera> I would like to know how to open a folder which is...locked
[23:10] <dikidera> it has a Lock icon on the folder and an X as well
[23:10] <escott> !permissions | dikidera
[23:10] <plummerb> AuroraNites is a Troll
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> dikidera: check ownerships
[23:11] <dikidera> when i view the properties, i cannot change anything
[23:11] <escott> dikidera, you have to be root to make file permission changes. use sudo chown or sudo chmod
[23:11] <dikidera> anything in the permissions tab i mean
[23:11] <qin> dikidera: Do you want to open terminal?
[23:12] <escott> dikidera, why do you need to get into this locked folder. it is locked to prevent you from breaking things
[23:13] <dikidera> its a mysql folder
[23:13] <dikidera> where my .sock file is contained
[23:13] <dikidera> i've opened it?
[23:13] <bambanx> escott, how i can higlight my search in the results?
[23:13] <dikidera> now that i think about it
[23:14] <dikidera> i can just use gedit with sudo
[23:14] <astruasdh> Polah escott thank you, guys!
[23:15] <escott> bambanx, --color=always
[23:15] <dikidera> Hmm...i guess this is gonna be tough
[23:16] <escott> dikidera, use gksudo with guis like gedit
[23:16] <Teh_Lemon> how do i change default python path so that it uses 2.7 that i just installed and not 2.6 that is built in
[23:17] <escott> Teh_Lemon, ensure that the path to the python 2.7 binary is listed first in $PATH
[23:17] <astruasdh> does aptitude uses /etc/apt/sources.list such as apt-get ?
[23:17] <escott> Teh_Lemon, actually thats a lie... you need to modify apt-alternatives to point to 2.7
[23:17] <Polah> astruasdh, aptitude and apt-get are both frontends for apt, so yes
[23:17] <Teh_Lemon> :
[23:17] <Teh_Lemon> :|
[23:18] <astruasdh> awesome
[23:18] <astruasdh> what do you prefere?
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> astruasdh: its all the same bag, just different front bit
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> astruasdh: I use apt-fast
[23:19] <escott> Teh_Lemon, see man update-alternatives
[23:19] <astruasdh> ty
[23:19] <Polah> astruasdh: I use apt-get myself. apt-get is command line based, aptitude has some GUI kind of interfaces on the command line
[23:19] <escott> Teh_Lemon, since you did this out of apt its going to be a bit harder. you may need to change some things in /etc/alternatives, but eventually you want /usr/bin/python symlink pointing to your python
[23:20] <astruasdh> awesome. It is my first time with ubuntu, and I thought it relied only on aptitude. I am used with apt-get, so is it also safe to use apt in ubuntu... isnt it?
[23:20] <Teh_Lemon> im confused as fuck :S
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> astruasdh: aptitude is not in a default install anymore, conversely enough
[23:20] <astruasdh> perfect! another reason for me to use only apt-get as I am used in debian
[23:21] <maujhsn> projectM js compiled and built using cmake! the project has caused me too may headaches! What commands are use to completely remove it & all of the associated files?
[23:22] <escott> Teh_Lemon, /usr/bin/python is a symlink (like a windows shortcut) to python 2.6. you have to get that to point to your python. the program which controls these symlinks is update-alternatives and its configuration is in /etc/alternatives.
[23:22] <Teh_Lemon> so i have to alter a file in usr/bin/python or /etc/alts
[23:24] <astruasdh> escott After the aptitude, I hit grub-install /dev/sda... no error were reported and the machine booted. am I safe?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> Teh_Lemon: http://pythonide.blogspot.com/2007/03/how-to-switch-between-python24-and.html
[23:24] <Polah> astruasdh, run grub-update quickly
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> Teh_Lemon: explains it well, did you websearch to find an answer at all?
[23:24] <escott> Teh_Lemon, astruasdh sounds good
[23:25] <Teh_Lemon> yes i did
[23:25] <Teh_Lemon> and i dont get em
[23:25] <Teh_Lemon> confusing
[23:25] <Teh_Lemon> :S
[23:25] <FloodBot1> Teh_Lemon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:25] <astruasdh> Polah This grub-updte is not installed here.
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> Teh_Lemon: just read. Like you have been told, the file is a link, the command just changes the link for you
[23:26] <astruasdh> yes I have, sorry
[23:26] <Polah> ActionParsnip: I have aptitude in 11.04 desktop, or was it taken out a while after release?
[23:26] <astruasdh> no, I dont have hehe.. sorry^2
[23:26] <Polah> astruasdh, what?
[23:26] <w30> Is there any way to put (move) the Unity launcher strip to the bottom of the desktop?
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> Teh_Lemon: if you run:   sudo update-alternatives --config python    do you see the newer version available
[23:26] <astruasdh> Polah grub-update: command not found
[23:26] <Teh_Lemon> sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/python python /usr/bin/python2.7 (after python2.7 i use 1 or 10, link shows different values)?
[23:26] <urlin2u> w30 no.
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> !aptitude
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[23:26] <Polah> astruasdh, my bad. update-grub
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> Teh_Lemon: then verify the file and change the command
[23:27] <astruasdh> Polah I am supposed to update-grub just after executing grub-install /dev/sda... is it correct/
[23:27] <urlin2u> w30, you can sg=hrink it though with the unity plugin in compiz configuration manager
[23:27] <w30> urlin2u, you are welcome :=)
[23:27] <urlin2u> shrink*
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> Polah: http://www.lostwebsite.net/2010/09/aptitude-removed-revolucion/
[23:27] <Polah> astruasdh, well you've already done grub-install, so just run update-grub which will autodetect installs, or should do, just to help make sure GRUB finds it when you reboot.
[23:27] <Teh_Lemon> update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for python.
[23:27] <Teh_Lemon> oO
[23:28] <w30> urlin2u, I all ready have it at 32
[23:28] <astruasdh> ty
[23:28] <Teh_Lemon> i had 2.6, i compiled 2.7 and i get this oO
[23:28] <astruasdh> ty guys
[23:28] <escott> Polah, you less /boot/grub/grub.conf to sanity check that your config looks good
[23:28] <urlin2u> w30, cool maybe someday it will be movable probably not though.
[23:28] <escott> Teh_Lemon, i think if all you have is 2.6 installed you dont yet have a need for alternatives
[23:29] <urlin2u> !pm | AuroraNites21
[23:29] <escott> Teh_Lemon, so you have to create an alternatives group. you could install python3 which would create the alternatives group for you
[23:30] <Polah> ActionParsnip, ah, not removed from the server. I just started up my server VM to check and found it
[23:30] <Teh_Lemon> auroranites just asked everyone where are they from? oO
[23:30] <w30> urlin2u, more horizonal space than vertical and I want all the buttons so I have to live with the skrunch :=(
[23:31] <urlin2u> w30, I put docky on the bottomand hardly use the panel mostly synapse really.
[23:31] <maujhsn> projectM is compiled and built using cmake! the project has caused me too may headaches! What commands are use to completely remove it & all of the associated files?
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> Polah: oh its on the server, just not in a default install
[23:31] <brandon__> Does anyone know how to make mono run perfectly without root privileges? When running a certain application via mono without root privileges, an exception is thrown very soon after the application has executed.
[23:31] <Polah> ActionParsnip, when was it removed, seeing as I have it on my desktop too?
[23:32] <com3> hello
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> Polah: not sure, I don't use it but I remember the fuss it kicked up. I don't use it and always used apt-get and now apt-fast
[23:33] <com3> how can i set static ip without network manager
[23:33] <com3> ?
[23:33] <Polah> ActionParsnip, apt-fast?
[23:33] <Polah> com3: Manually edit /etc/network/interfaces
[23:33] <LinuxCody> Hello
[23:33] <LinuxCody> I am wondering if I could recieve help on a nice little problem with Synaptic/Update Manager
[23:33] <escott> com3, doing so will (should) disable NM's management of the interface
[23:34] <escott> !ask | LinuxCody
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> Polah: it's apt-get but uses axcel
[23:34] <com3> i doit
[23:34] <julie101010> brandon_, some options could be to change the link to use sudo or change the app's owner to root and set the sticky bit
[23:34] <com3> escott i do it but doesnt working
[23:34] <LinuxCody> !ask I need to know what to do to fix my Synaptic and Package manager
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> Polah: sorry axel
[23:34] <brandon__> What's the sticky bit?
[23:35] <nitstorm> LinuxCody: sudo apt-get update
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> Polah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGyUrqFIDc8   there is a PPA mentioned on webupd8
[23:35] <com3> escott i have remove network-manager
[23:35] <escott> brandon__, see the wikipedia article. its useful for temp directories
[23:35] <Polah> ActionParsnip, I just found it (P
[23:35] <julie101010> brandon_, for example: chmod 4744 filename
[23:35] <zykotick9_> com3, setting an interface in /etc/network/interfaces will preven Network Manager from "managing" it.  Removing n-m was not required.
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> Polah: downloads from 3 sources at once :)
[23:35] <LinuxCody> sudo: aptget: command not found
[23:36] <nitstorm> LinuxCody:
[23:36] <julie101010> brandon_, sorry...  for example: chmod 4755 filename
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> LinuxCody: apt-get   not aptget
[23:36] <nitstorm> LinuxCody: sudo apt-get update
[23:36] <nitstorm> LinuxCody: the hiphen in the command is necessary
[23:36] <Polah> ActionParsnip, interesting. Although, that would only download three packages at a slower speed, rather than one package the highest gainable speed
[23:36] <zykotick9_> brandon_, personally, i'd say the fact you have to use root to run a mono program, would be enough evidence to not use mono.
[23:36] <com3> zykotick9_  i should reinstall NM?
[23:36] <LinuxCody> Thanks
[23:37] <zykotick9_> com3, up to you, but removing wasn't necessary
[23:37] <brandon__> Is there anyway to install mono for a single user so that root does not have to be used?
[23:37] <escott> com3, removing system programs like NM should be the last course of action. lots of people come in here with broken setups and complain that NM or pulse wasn't doing what they wanted and they removed it
[23:37] <LinuxCody> OK
[23:37] <LinuxCody> Reading Package Lists
[23:37] <LinuxCody> Crap...
[23:37] <escott> com3, at which point I say... everyone else has NM and pulse, and we can't help you if you don't because your system is now very different from ours
[23:38] <escott> !language | LinuxCody
[23:38] <LinuxCody> E: Encountered a section with no package: header
[23:38] <com3> escott ok i reiinstall it
[23:39] <LinuxCody> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_binary-i386_Packages
[23:39] <escott> LinuxCody, can you !paste your session
[23:39] <escott> !paste | LinuxCody
[23:39] <LinuxCody> I am on windows
[23:39] <LinuxCody> My laptop cannot get onto the internet
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> Polah: it downloads 3 parts, its kinda like torrents
[23:39] <bazhang> LinuxCody, then copy and paste
[23:39] <LinuxCody> Well, it can
[23:39] <LinuxCody> Copy and paste?
[23:40] <bazhang> paste.ubuntu.com LinuxCody
[23:40] <escott> !xy | LinuxCody we cant fix your apt without web access
[23:40] <LinuxCody> I meant browsing
[23:40] <LinuxCody> I am on the internet
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> LinuxCody: http://paste.ubuntu.com/691140/
[23:41] <com3> with ifconfig etc i have network allready
[23:41] <martinjlowm> escii: Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Apparently, I overlooked the running processes and getty was indeed running on all the tty's. So, I believe the problem is my gfx driver for some reason. Changing the grub settings to run gfx text mode solved the problem.
[23:41] <LinuxCody> allright
[23:41] <martinjlowm> escott, *
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> LinuxCody: ignore the top line, I just have it in a script
[23:42] <escott> martinjlowm, good
[23:42] <com3> i installed now NM
[23:42] <com3> what should i do?
[23:42] <LinuxCody> http://paste.ubuntu.com/691141
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> com3: reboot and you should be ok
[23:43] <com3> ok i tryit ty
[23:43] <escott> com3, if you have a nm configured static and you just want to enable it from the cli use nmcli
[23:43] <maujhsn> ubottu Rocks!
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> LinuxCody: the list of commands I gave will sort that
[23:43] <Polah> maujhsn: Yeah he's a cool guy.
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> its a girl remember
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> !gender
[23:44] <maujhsn> Polah This stuff is classic!
[23:44] <Polah> Still a cool guy.
[23:44] <com3> iam sorry first installed ubuntu and Debian like system
[23:44] <sdboyer> havin trouble getting kontact fully working under natty (running ubuntu, not kubuntu) - kwallet is behaving poorly, and i can't sign/encrypt ANYTHING. not sure what the issue is, anybody able to help troubleshoot?
[23:44] <com3> my first time
[23:45] <Polah> Of course, I mean guy in the non-gender specific plural form, only singular.
[23:45] <fishscene> Greetings everyone. I am wondering if mySQL could store images/video/audio files.
[23:46] <escott> fishscene, yes its called a blob, best ask in a mysql channel
[23:46] <com3> escott what is cli?
[23:46] <Polah> fishscene:  Yes, MySQL can store binary data. http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/blob.html
[23:46] <fishscene> escott: ok Thanks. I'll check there.
[23:46] <escott> com3, you want a static setup, but you dont want to use nm. why do you not want to use nm?
[23:46] <com3> because i like to build a XBMC workstation
[23:47] <fishscene> We are trying to set up a database server to manage about 2TB of data.
[23:47] <com3> without gdm etc
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> fishscene: sure, sounds cool
[23:47] <com3> doesnt work
[23:48] <escott> com3, so nm is rather low level service (it starts after dbus). you might just want to use the nmcli program to interface with network manager and enable the nm configured static setup
[23:48] <zykotick9_> com3, if you're interested i've pastebined an example /etc/network/interface at http://paste.ubuntu.com/691145/ which has a 192.168.1.15 static ip, customize to taste ;)
[23:48] <LinuxCody> It.. works
[23:48] <escott> com3, so you configure it by using the gui one time, and then use nmcli to enable the saved config
[23:48] <LinuxCody> You guys are a life saver
[23:48] <com3> ok ty guys
[23:48] <Polah> Oh dearie me. Didn't encapsulate so my loop thought I was using regex and rename files in all the wrong places. Time to reencode all the original files.
[23:49] <negrox> holas
[23:49] <negrox> necesito ayuda
[23:49] <negrox> tengo un mac
[23:49] <escott> !es | negrox
[23:49] <negrox> ok
[23:49] <negrox> gracias
[23:50] <LinuxCody> Sorry about the language earlier
[23:50] <zykotick9_> com3, slight typo above (damb that lack of TAB complete), the correct filename is /etc/network/interfaces
[23:50] <ModusPwnens> does anyone know how to open the java console on ubuntu?
[23:50] <LinuxCody> I like your little OS
[23:51] <LinuxCody> Run the command jcontrol. On the Advanced tab expand Java console and select Show console. Restart Firefox and the console should open the next time you open a Java applet in the browser.
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> LinuxCody: little OS?
[23:52] <LinuxCody> Oh wait
[23:52] <LinuxCody> Big OS
[23:52] <ModusPwnens> what arguments do you provide to jcontrol?
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> ;)
[23:52] <itaylor57> ModusPwnens, you should have a openjdk or sunjdk poliicy tool
[23:52] <LinuxCody> Former Little OS
[23:53] <ModusPwnens> itaylor57, how do I know which one I have
[23:53] <LinuxCody> I use ubuntu for my 13 yearold laptop for school
[23:53] <LinuxCody> I like windows for desktops
[23:53] <LinuxCody> But in the bussiness world, ubuntu is a nice system
[23:53] <itaylor57> ModusPwnens, you ave open jdk unless you installed the sun version
[23:53] <merryman540> I have ubuntu 8.04 and Linux Mint 10 on the same system (two separate hard drives). What will happen if I upgrade ubuntu 8.04 to say Ubuntu 10.04? How will it affect my stored personal folders, setting etc and how will it affect my dual booting? I don't want to have to reinstall my mint.
[23:54] <ModusPwnens> itaylor57, Ok, well I didn't install anything special. Given that I have one of those installed, how do I open jconsole?
[23:54] <Gredeu> merryman540, install it on a seperate home partition
[23:54] <Axlin> Hey guys. I'm having a little trouble with Tomboy 1.6.0 and Ubuntu 11.04. It doesn't launch. If I try to run it from Terminal, this is the output I get: http://pastebin.com/MpP1DKHB   Any ideas?
[23:54] <nitstorm> merryman540: you might wanna take a backup just in case
[23:54] <nitstorm> merryman540: Also note that 8.04 uses the Legacy Grub where as 10.04 uses Grub2
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> merryman540: you will have backups so it's all good. The update only updates the binaries making up your apps
[23:55] <com3> ok i have configuring the network manager in gnome and interfaces file
[23:55] <computerx> Howdy, I added a cron entry, via crontab -e with an entry @reboot cmd... It doesn't appear to run, and I can't see any log messages relating to it. Where would this be logged?
[23:55] <merryman540> nitstorm -I'm currently using grub 2 I think with the linux mint
[23:55] <com3> no if i want uninstall gnome that is working?
[23:55] <nitstorm> merryman540: ah... cool cool... refer to ActionParsnip's comment above as well...
[23:55] <merryman540> ActionParsnip - so my personal folders won't be affedted?
[23:56] <merryman540> Gredeu - what do you mean?
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> computerx:  /var/cron/log   maybe
[23:57] <Gredeu> resize your partition make sure you don't lose power and mount your other home on the other distros side by side partition
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> merryman540: no, but you should have a backup if your data is important. I'm surprised you even asked...
[23:57] <escott> com3, why uninstall, just disable the X server. that way you can use the gui tools to administer the system remotely
[23:57] <merryman540> Gredeu-lol sounds like a lot of knowledge that I can't claim to possess!
[23:58] <escott> com3, change your /etc/default/grub to boot to text
[23:58] <shadows090> Is there any good rule of thumb for the maximum amount of vhosts I should use?
[23:58] <computerx> ActionParsnip: Not a folder, neither is /var/log/cron, as I assume you meant
[23:58] <merryman540> ActionParsnip - you mean backing up my personal files to an external hard drive kind of thing?
[23:58] <computerx> ActionParsnip: Neither is there a file in /var/log/cron*
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> merryman540: yes, like a backup