[04:27] <ax> i'm trying to get an echo audiofire 4 to work with ubuntu studio 11.04 and it seems as though the new firewire stack might be causing me some trouble
[04:27] <ax> is it not possible to get the old stack on 11.04?
[12:25] <holstein> ax: you could look at the kxstudio repos
[12:25] <holstein> falk made some custom repos for jack1, not sure about the firewire stacks
[12:26] <holstein> i can say there will be no easy way to step down
[12:26] <holstein> i remember needing an older FW stack back in 9.x
[12:26] <holstein> when i would try and just remove the current FW, the entire ubuntustudio-audio meta package would want to go away
[12:27] <holstein> i can also say, theres no reason *not* to run 10.04 for audio
[17:23] <ax> holstein: yeah, i was hoping to not have to move back to 10.4 just because it is a PITA and i like having the most up to date packages, but i guess 10.4 is LTS..
[20:30] <holstein> ax: i use the kxstudio ppa's for new packages in 10.04
[20:30] <holstein> i personally take the non-LTS releases as 'testing' releases
[20:45] <ax> holstein: thanks for the info, i'll look into the ppa + 10.4
[22:29] <donteat_calamari> Does anyone know how to do simple edits of an mp3 file in linux without transcoding, like audacity does,to just cut certain parts out? I record songs from the stereo onto flash and want to make each mp3 a single song,	but audacity imports it to audacity format then re encodes it upon export this is wasting electricity resources and possibly degrading quality. In other words: does anyone know...
[22:29] <donteat_calamari> ...of a native mp3 editor, to just do crop and save?
[22:36] <donteat_calamari> help
[22:36] <donteat_calamari> please hep
[22:36] <donteat_calamari> please help
[22:36] <casey> Not possible afaik. MP3 is not an editable format. You should record to an editable format (e.g. lossless.)
[22:47] <donteat_calamari> shit
[22:47] <donteat_calamari> i guess i will just have to be quick with the start and stop button from now on
[22:49] <holstein> making ogg's is easy
[22:49] <holstein> those are easily editable
[22:53] <holstein> audacity will always convert to its format though
[22:53] <holstein> .aup's or whatever they are
[23:17] <ax> but, afaik, ogg is a lossy format as well no?
[23:18] <ax> ahh, i guess you just said.. it will get transcoded :)
[23:18] <holstein> yeah... not sure what the issue is though