[00:02] <charlie-tca> I always use apt-get install or Synaptic Package Manager
[00:03] <com64> I've been using apt-get install because it's not working... I'm just installing a few things like Vim and emacs, so no big deal for now.
[00:10] <com64> I think I may have fixed the swap problem. Just deleted partition, rebooted, made a new one exactly 3GB, should work; no sign of problems.
[01:57] <munchluxe63> I can't shut down, hibernate, or suspend; a dialogue box displaying "shutdown failed, failed to suspend, not authorized" and then the session locks.
[01:57] <munchluxe63> Using 11.10 Beta 1
[02:20] <GridCube> you shouldnt use that
[02:20] <GridCube> :P but if its for beta testing then you should
[02:23] <munchluxe63> hm
[02:23] <munchluxe63> well, too late now.
[02:23] <munchluxe63> Have reported a few bugs though...
[02:23] <munchluxe63> It was working fine before.
[02:23] <munchluxe63> :S
[02:26] <GridCube> :D
[02:26] <GridCube> report it
[02:27] <munchluxe63> I think it's due to my own error.
[02:27] <munchluxe63> as it was working earlier
[02:28] <munchluxe63> xfce4-power-manager --dump gives: Authorized to suspend: False ||  Authorized to hibernate: False || Authorized to shutdown: False || Authorized to spin down hard disks: False
[02:29] <munchluxe63> I wonder how I could change this...
[02:30] <munchluxe63> when I run command with sudo, shows as true
[02:38] <Shirakawasuna> were you messing around w/ login manager stuff?
[02:40] <munchluxe63> dunno
[02:40] <munchluxe63> did nothing of the sort
[02:40] <munchluxe63> but I think It may be linked to failed installing of certain packages
[02:40] <munchluxe63> ie. update manager crashed
[02:41] <munchluxe63> or ubuntu software centre
[02:41] <munchluxe63> then the error reporter crashed =_=
[03:26] <dreamsofreason> Any idea why Xubuntu 11.04 shows my older Dell 17" monitor as "default?" It also doesn't allow me to choose a resolution other than 1024x768 and 0.0 refresh rate.
[09:05] <kokoshmusun> there is no about ubuntu button as in gnome.  how do I figure out which version of ubuntu I'm using?
[09:05] <Sysi> in terminal: lsb_release
[09:06] <kokoshmusun> "No LSB modules are available"
[09:06] <bazhang> !version
[09:07] <kokoshmusun> "bash: !version: event not found"
[09:07] <Sysi> what ubottu said
[09:07] <Sysi> !ubottu
[09:07] <kokoshmusun> lsb_release -a ---> this works.
[09:08] <bazhang> try lsb_release -a    <--- in terminal
[09:08] <bazhang> heh
[09:09] <kokoshmusun> I was worried about this: I have a 64-bit PC and I installed xubuntu on it.  Then I have a 32-bit laptop and I installed xubuntu on it from the same ISO.  Then I though, oh, did I install the 64-bit xubuntu on a 32-bit machine (it works fine).  So I don't which version, in terms of 64 or 32 bit, I'm using.  How do I figure that out?
[09:09] <Sysi> uname -a
[09:09] <Sysi> running 32bit is not bad, if you don't have 4GB or more RAM
[09:10] <bazhang> its 32 bit if it worked on both
[09:10] <kokoshmusun> x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:10] <kokoshmusun> isn't that 64-bit
[09:10] <kokoshmusun> How come it works on a 32-bit machine?
[09:10] <bazhang> then the 32bit machine is 64bit
[09:10] <kokoshmusun> ??????????? really.... how can I check that for sure?
[09:11] <Sysi> same command and maybe pastebin output of 'lscpu'
[09:11] <Sysi> or just see for yourself
[09:11] <bazhang> lscpu?
[09:11] <kokoshmusun> Architecture:          x86_64
[09:11] <kokoshmusun> CPU op-mode(s):        32-bit, 64-bit
[09:11] <kokoshmusun> CPU(s):                2
[09:11] <kokoshmusun> Thread(s) per core:    1
[09:11] <kokoshmusun> Core(s) per socket:    2
[09:11] <kokoshmusun> CPU socket(s):         1
[09:11] <kokoshmusun> NUMA node(s):          1
[09:11] <kokoshmusun> Vendor ID:             GenuineIntel
[09:11] <kokoshmusun> CPU family:            6
[09:11] <kokoshmusun> Model:                 15
[09:11] <kokoshmusun> Stepping:              13
[09:11] <kokoshmusun> CPU MHz:               800.000
[09:11] <kokoshmusun> L1d cache:             32K
[09:11] <kokoshmusun> L1i cache:             32K
[09:12] <Sysi> !pastebin
[09:12] <bazhang> so 64
[09:12] <kokoshmusun> sorry for accidental flood, I don't know what pastebin is.  Anyway, it says CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit.
[09:13] <kokoshmusun> So all this time, I thought this machine was 32 bit, but it's 64-bit.
[09:13] <Sysi> (what ubottu said about pastebin)
[09:14] <kokoshmusun> yeah, it takes me to launchpad and stuff.  it's okay, I'm not gonna paste anything, thanks for the help.
[09:18] <kokoshmusun> how to trigger screensaver?  I'm listening to a podcast, it's unncessary for the screen to be on
[13:08] <Sigmund86_> ci sono italiani?
[14:18] <Daniel_Paim> Hello World. How to go to irc of UCK?
[14:18] <Sysi> what's UCK?
[14:20] <Daniel_Paim> Sysi: Ubuntu Customization Kit
[14:21] <Daniel_Paim> I want create Ubuntu witch all instaled for my personal use Sysi
[14:21] <Daniel_Paim> *with
[14:21] <Daniel_Paim> Xubuntu
[14:24] <Sysi> I guess there isn't separate channel for UCK-project and I haven't used it, hang on and see if somebody knows, if not you can try #ubuntu too
[14:25] <charlie-tca> !ubuntu-customization-kit
[14:25] <Pici> !uck
[14:25] <charlie-tca> Thank you
[14:27] <Daniel_Paim> Pici: Which is better? UCK or remastersys?
[14:37] <Pici> Daniel_Paim: Never used either, sorry.
[14:37] <Daniel_Paim> anybody used UCK or Remastesys in xubuntu?
[16:09] <robothebobo> Hi... am I in the right place for xubuntu help?
[16:09] <Sysi> yes
[16:09] <robothebobo> Cool. Thanks.
[16:10] <robothebobo> Well, here's my thing. I just installed xubuntu on a machine that will be a home server. I have just one user account on it.
[16:10] <robothebobo> I mostly access it via SSH, but occasionally VNC in as well.
[16:12] <robothebobo> When I open the 'Time and Date' utility from the Xfce menu, it says 'not authorized to make changes'
[16:13] <robothebobo> I can open it via the termial with 'sudo time-admin', and then I'm authorized, but just in the GUI, i'm not.
[16:13] <charlie-tca> There is a lock in the middle bottom. Click it to enter your sudo password to make changes
[16:14] <spacebug-> support for xubuntu 11.10 is that here or in #xubuntu+1 or something?
[16:14] <charlie-tca> spacebug-: #ubuntu+1
[16:14] <spacebug-> ok tnx
[16:14] <robothebobo> The lock is 'greyed out', and doesn't do anytihng when clicked on.
[16:14] <robothebobo> When I mouse over it, it says 'System policy prevents changes. Contact your system administrator'.
[16:15] <spacebug-> hehe wow that was empty
[16:15] <charlie-tca> I see
[16:15] <charlie-tca> spacebug-: #ubuntu+1, not #xubuntu+1
[16:15] <spacebug-> oh
[16:15] <spacebug-> tnx
[16:15] <robothebobo> I've installed ntpd via apt-get, so functionally it's not a big deal, but it's strange, for an almost out of the box config, isnt' it?
[16:16] <charlie-tca> depends on what you did to get "almost"
[16:17] <robothebobo> heh
[16:17] <robothebobo> basically installed some services. cherokee, dropbox, transmission-daemon, openssh, etc
[16:17] <robothebobo> Didn't change any account settings.
[16:21] <robothebobo> is there a way to see what groups my account is a member of? Perhaps that is the issue?
[16:30] <charlie-tca> The easiest way I found is looking in /etc/groups
[16:31] <charlie-tca> but you can look in System -> Users and Groups for a gui, too
[16:35] <kalle> Any ideas on how to disable numlock by default in xubuntu natty?
[16:36] <kalle> It was disabled by default on my laptop until I connected an external keyboard
[16:36] <charlie-tca> numlock is not enabled by default in Xubuntu
[16:36] <genii-around> robothebobo: Issuing command: groups  also works
[16:36] <kalle> I know. But now it is for some reason.
[16:36] <kalle> on my system
[16:36] <charlie-tca> just disable it on the keyboard, and save the session
[16:37] <robothebobo> thanks - will check that.
[16:37] <kalle> I'll try that, thanks!
[16:37] <charlie-tca> It should then be disabled when yo login. Otherwise, maybe it is enabled in bios?
[16:38] <robothebobo> so when I type $groups robothebobo, I get the response: robothebobo : robothebobo adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[16:38] <robothebobo> does that look normal?
[16:40] <charlie-tca> I will look at a default installation, just a minute
[16:40] <genii-around> robothebobo: That looks pretty normal, yes
[16:41] <kalle> charlie-tca, that woked like a charm, thanks again!
[16:41] <charlie-tca> kalle: you are welcome
[16:42] <robothebobo> thanks
[17:31] <zus> will this "looking glass" run on Xubuntu? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjQ4Nza34ak&feature=related
[17:34] <charlie-tca> I would guess it will if you have the correct video drivers installed
[17:34] <knome> zus, as the topmost comment says, looking glass is a desktop environment. so that means you would just replace xfce with it. so it should work as much with ubuntu as xubuntu, but it wouldn't be xubuntu anymore
[17:35] <zus> but i can still "choose" to log into XFCE, lookingglass, at login screen correct?
[17:35] <knome> probably.
[17:40] <zus> back in 9.04 when i got into ubuntu the 1 hour demo version of this video is what sold me, only i now i have decided to mess with diferent enviroments.
[18:00] <zus> silly question, but is there a way to disable  "tapping" on the trackpads for laptops in xubuntu?
[18:02] <charlie-tca> Should be able to do that using synaptic touchpad program
[18:03] <Myrtti> ugh
[18:03] <Myrtti> how many years old is that video...
[18:04] <Myrtti> what, five years?
[18:04] <zus> the looking glass one Myrtti
[18:04] <zus> thanks charlie-tca
[18:05] <Myrtti> inactive, made with java
[18:05] <Myrtti> does not look good
[18:06] <Sysi> half of the compiz stuff is pretty awful, still many people like it
[18:06] <zus> i never knew or seen anything like it before 9.04 release.
[18:06] <Myrtti> Sysi: compiz is still developed though
[18:06] <Sysi> yeah
[18:33] <xubuntu963> hi
[20:19] <flopato> hey
[20:20] <flopato> why does "sudo newgrp" make me root??
[20:20] <Sysi> sudo
[20:21] <flopato> yes but not temorary
[20:21] <flopato> i am root till i exit
[20:21] <Sysi> "man newgrp"
[20:21] <Sysi> why did you run that if you don'y know what it does
[20:22] <flopato> okay newgrp changes the gid
[20:22] <flopato> but why does it change my uid??
[20:23] <flopato> before "sudo newgrp" uid = 1000 after "sudo newgrp" the uid = 0
[20:24] <flopato> newgrp without "sudo" has the expected behavior
[20:24] <flopato> it changes my gid
[20:24] <flopato> with "sudo" it only changes my uid
[20:25] <flopato> no wait: with "sudo" it changes uid and gid to 0
[20:26] <charlie-tca> which is root
[20:26] <flopato> yes
[20:26] <flopato> so why does newgrp do that?
[20:26] <charlie-tca> I don't know, I haven't read man newgrp
[20:27] <flopato> there's nothing about that behavior
[20:29] <flopato> okay thats weird
[20:29] <flopato> i even do not have to enter my userpassword
[20:29] <flopato> i type "sudo newgrp" and i am root!
[20:29] <knome> it's cached for 5 minutes if you type it once
[20:29] <flopato> 5 min?
[20:30] <flopato> on my notebook it is much shorter
[20:30] <knome> afaik it's 5 minutes.
[20:30] <flopato> okay ;)
[20:30] <flopato> but did u try what i said before on your machine?
[20:31] <knome> no
[20:31] <knome> i don't know about newgrp either
[20:31] <flopato> i am wondering if this is the normal behavior...
[20:31] <flopato> okay
[20:31] <knome> you can ask #ubuntu, since this isn't xubuntu specific. they might know the answer
[20:31] <flopato> kk
[20:31] <flopato> thx
[20:35] <flopato> okay got the answer
[20:36] <flopato> it is because "newgrp" opens a new terminal....and because "sudo" gives me root-rights temporary, this new shell is opend up with root rights
[20:39] <flopato> okay bye have a nice day
[21:33] <Solskogen> I've just installed Xubuntu oneiric and my login screen is pretty.... dull compared to earlier versions. is that correct or have i borked my system somehow?
[21:34] <TheSheep> it's normal, there was a change of the login screen manager
[21:36] <Solskogen> yeah, i've heard. I just find it a bit wierd to make it so dull :)
[21:39] <Shirakawasuna> lightdm
[21:39] <Shirakawasuna> maybe they'll improve it at the last minute?
[21:40] <Solskogen> hope so :)
[22:42] <knome> how does one save VLC audio settings?
[22:42] <knome> they seem to get lost on every boot
[22:42] <knome> :)
[22:42] <knome> :(
[22:43] <GridCube> mmm good question
[22:45] <GridCube> knome, >tools >preferences?
[22:46] <knome> yes, i can change those and save, and it works until i boot the pc
[22:46] <GridCube> oh
[22:46] <GridCube> i see
[22:48] <knome> yeah. it's kind of annoying.
[22:53] <knome> if you come up with a solution, feel free to ping me. i'll be off for today
[22:53] <GridCube> :) will do
[22:53] <knome> see you!
[22:53] <GridCube> and you