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phillwphilipballew: have you run the self test on the CD?00:03
philipballewno00:05
Ma5t3rw1ttI have a really quick question. I finally found out how to get applications to start automatically but I was wondering if there was a command I could add to make the program minimized?00:09
Gabbywhen i upgraded my system from ubuntu to lubuntu, i did not see the option for encrypted /home partition.  i had an encrypted home partition, however now it just shows a bunch of files listed as *.part00:34
Gabbyas a resutl much of the information is encrypted00:34
Gabbyany suggestions?00:34
=== Gabby is now known as Ahmuck
Unit193Ahmuck: I haven't worked with encryption much outside of TrueCrypt, you may also like to check #ubuntu or maybe #ubuntu-beginners00:46
Ahmuckya, cept it wasn't ubuntu that borked the encrypted partition00:47
Ahmuckis lubuntu going to support encrypted partitions in the next release?00:47
Ahmuck /home encryptions?00:47
Unit193AFAIK, it's supported now00:47
Unit193Just the convert killed it00:47
Ahmuckthe convert?00:48
Unit193What version of Ubuntu was it00:51
Unit193?00:51
Ahmuckthe last one.  10.1001:23
Ahmucker, kubuntu 10.1001:23
Ahmucker, maybee ubuntu 10.10, don't recall now01:23
Ahmuckprolly kubuntu 10.1001:23
Unit193https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseNotes/MaverickMeerkat I don't see anything about encryption here, but there was in 10.0401:26
Ahmuckso i wonder how it or i borked my install01:27
Ahmucki wonder if there is a way to get my files back01:27
Unit193Take a glance here maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1690865&page=2 or wait for another helper01:31
=== M0hi is now known as IAmNotThatGuy
dimkinsесть кто русский?07:01
=== IAmNotThatGuy is now known as Mohan_chml
Mohan_chmldimkins: English please07:08
Unit193!ru07:10
ubot5Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.07:10
Mohan_chmldimkins: ^07:10
dimkinsMohan ты русский?07:11
* Mohan_chml is not a Russian. But knows to use Google translate :D07:21
BossDjCan anyone help me with a sound card issue?15:39
=== zmijunkie_ is now known as zmijunkie
MrChrisDruifHi guys and girls18:53
MrChrisDruifIs it possible to reverse the scroll direction in lxde?18:56
MrChrisDruifAnyone?18:58
=== zmijunkie_ is now known as zmijunkie
MrChrisDruifIAmNotThatGuy; do you know by any chance?19:01
IAmNotThatGuyMrChrisDruif, I have seen it somewhere. Now I am a bit busy man. I ll come back to that19:02
KM0201MrChrisDruif: reverse the scroll direction?19:02
IAmNotThatGuy5 mins19:02
MrChrisDruifKM0201; yeah, like they've got in Mac Lion19:03
jmarsdenMrChrisDruif: Are you writing in a language that is written right-to-left?  Learning Hebrew, or something like that?19:03
MrChrisDruif>_<19:03
KM0201MrChrisDruif: considering i don't use mac lion, i don't really understand what you mean by "scroll direction"19:04
MrChrisDruifWell, when you scroll with the mouse wheel (or on the trackpad) you move the page down with by "pulling down", but I want to reverse that19:05
MrChrisDruifLike in this article: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/07/reverse-natural-scrolling-ubuntu-os-lion/19:06
MrChrisDruifI've managed to get it working in Gnome, but I also want it in lxde (if possible)19:11
MikeChelenwhere should lubuntu bugs be reported? can't find an option to create a new issue on launchpad20:39
jmarsdenLaunchpad is the correct place.20:39
jmarsdenhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs  should have all the details.20:40
MikeChelenjmarsden: ah ok, its not a crash though, just noticed the filename for the iso in the lubuntu torrent is wrong20:43
jmarsdenSo the bug is a typo in a wiki page?  Which page? you or I can fix that!20:44
MikeChelenit should be reported in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/ even if it is for lubuntu right20:44
MikeChelennot wiki20:44
MikeChelenwell, idk maybe20:44
MikeChelenon this page: http://lubuntu.lafibre.info/11.04/20:45
jmarsdenThat's not an official Lubuntu website... reportthat to whoever runs that site.20:45
MikeChelenhmm its linked from official lubuntu site20:45
MikeChelenhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu#A11.0420:46
jmarsdenYes, it is someone who is part of the Lubuntu community, I forget who :)20:46
MikeChelenits the official download link tho20:46
jmarsdenIf there is a typo in the help.ubuntu.com page, tell me and I'll fix it right now.20:46
MikeChelenits not on that page itself20:46
jmarsdenWait... the official download location for 11.04 is the lafibre site?20:46
MikeChelenyes it seems so20:47
jmarsdenThat's new... let me check...20:47
MikeChelenokey20:47
jmarsdenLooks like someone rewrote that page relatively recently, or else my memory is really bad...!20:48
jmarsdenBut you can't really file bugs about a non-Ubuntu site in LP, it doesn't really make sense, Ubuntu people can't fix that.20:49
MikeChelenits just weird because there is no other official download source20:49
MikeChelenguess i could add a note on the wiki page about the problem20:50
jmarsdenwell, 11.04 was not officially a Ubuntu release, we only became "official" from a Ubuntu/Canonical perspective in 11.10 :)20:50
jmarsdenBetter to post to the lubuntu-desktop mailing list, if you are already on that?20:50
jmarsdenI'm trying to figure out whose site the lubuntu.lafibre.info is :)20:51
jmarsdenMight be gilir, it is registered in France.20:52
MikeChelenah ok20:55
MikeCheleni dont usually read the dlist, but im happy to post there if it would be helpful20:56
MikeChelenthe problem is that the md5 sums have different file names20:56
MikeChelenthan the isos from bittorrent20:56
jmarsdenSure, go ahead and post; whoever owns that site will be on that mailing list, I'm sure.20:57
jmarsdenOh, OK.  So you have to manually compare them after downloading; that would break using md5sum -C MD5SUMS    to test with...20:58
jmarsdenAlthough in reality bittorrent checksums every chunk of the file anyway, so I'd be prettty amazed if you gto a bittorrent download sucessfully and its md5sum was incorrect -- probably the only way to do that would be a failing hard drive that didn't write what it was told to write when you stored the file!20:59
MikeChelenyeah its a bit redundant, but i had the image downloaded on one machine with a bt client21:01
MikeChelenand then copied it over the local network to another system21:01
MikeChelenwhich had no bt client, and wanted to check with md5 sums21:02
MikeChelenbut ended up having to install a bt client on the 2nd system too21:02
MikeChelenjust to check the file21:02
jmarsdenNo, that's unnecessary, surely!  You can just md5sum somefile.iso   and then  read the MD5SUMS file and see if the numbers match!21:03
jmarsdenThe filename being not quite the same should not be an issue for a human, right?21:03
MikeChelenyeah that seemed to be the other option, but for some reason i dont think it worked21:04
MikeChelenwas on a windows system using some random md5 program, but not really sure what the issue might have been21:04
MikeChelenat that point i was focusing not on fixing the issue, but just getting the iso downloaded ok :D21:05
jmarsdenIf you have to use Windows, install Cygwin, then you have an md5sum command just as you do in Linux :)21:05
jmarsdenAnyway, OK, mention it on the list and we'll see what happens.21:06
MikeChelenah i did install cygwin, didnt realize there was an md5 util included (couldn't figure out how to install stuff in cygwin)21:06
MikeChelenits a loaner laptop so i didnt want to spend alot of time getting it set up perfectly21:06
jmarsdenrun the setup.exe and click on the stuff you want to install :)21:06
MikeChelenok, thanks, its a small issue but its nice to have everything working without manual steps21:07
jmarsdenOh, I agree, we should fix it.  But you should not have needed to download twice because of this issue, that was my point, I think :)21:07
MikeChelenoh it has to be selected at install time? i installed cygwin a month ago the last time i actually used the laptop, and didn't recall the install steps21:07
MikeChelenoh, i didn't download twice21:08
MikeCheleni pointed the bt client to the iso and used its file check function21:08
jmarsdenYou can re-run the setup.exe from Cygwin and add stuff at will.21:08
MikeChelencool, i will try that if i have to use that laptop again21:08
jmarsdenThat is also how you keep it updated -- run the setup and don't click any new stuff, it updates what is already there.21:09
MikeChelenthats nice, i wanted to use ssh too, but couldn't see how to install it without apt-get :D21:09
jmarsden:)  Yes, cygwin does have some sort of internal installer, but I just run the setup.exe when I need to add stuff, it works well.21:10
MikeChelenjust dont have much experience with cygwin because i havent used windows in years :)21:10
jmarsdenGood for you... my work needs it, so lots of machines I work on get Cygwin added to them :)21:11
MikeChelenyeah this windows lappy is for work, usually i just do server stuff but this needs to run flash for video streaming, and system is probably too slow for linux/flash21:13
MikeCheleni installed some windows version of git that included ssh, which was pretty helpful21:14
MikeChelenbut it would be better to use a more general tool such as cygwin21:14
jmarsdenyes... my two choices are virtualbox on newer machines, so Linux can run inside that, or cygwin on older machines :)21:15
MikeChelenoh yeah vbox would let me do the full thing21:15
MikeChelenbut as long as i can ssh then its possible to connect to some other system and just work remotely21:16
MikeChelenim trying to get it to live boot for using it with linux at home, but the wifi card requires prop. drivers21:16
MikeChelenso cd wont really work21:17
MikeChelenand im having some issue making a liveusb stick21:17
MikeChelenwhich is weird because i have made these ok a million times in the past21:17
MikeCheleni think my desktop linux system is trying to automount the usb stick while meanwhile i try to write the new image >_<21:18
jmarsdenFor just ssh, you can use the Windows version of Putty.  For weird wifi issues, it's cheaper to buy a known-Linux-OK USB wifi thngie and use that, than to spend time on propietary wifi hardware, IMO :)21:18
jmarsdenMikeChelen: For that, just wait for the automount attempt, then umount if it was mounted, and off you go... just a timing issue.21:19
MikeChelenjmarsden: i was using putty before, but had compatibility issues with key auth21:19
MikeChelenoh yeah maybe i have a usb wifi around here somewhere21:20
MikeChelenthats a good reminder21:20
jmarsdenThere is a converter for the file formats that you can use to get around the putty ssh key thing.21:20
MikeCheleni tried to tether my android phone a bit but dont really know the procedure21:20
MikeChelenyeah i think i ended up doing something like that, it just added an extra step21:21
MikeChelenand i think the first converter i got was one way in the wrong direction21:21
MikeChelensince i was working remotely and couldn't change the authorized key on the server21:21
MikeChelenfor liveusb, having a little trouble figuring out what is the status at any given moment21:22
MikeChelenit might have gotten interrupted previously and now the usb bus is messed up until reboot21:22
MikeChelenthe usb stick is appearing as a drive in nautilus21:23
MikeChelen(my desktop is regular ubuntu)21:23
MikeChelenand when i click the eject icon it gives an error about volume being in use21:24
jmarsdenWeird.   You could try turning off automount completely in the host OS, but I forget the details.  Just waiting a while, then sudo umount /media/whatever   (if it got mounted there) seems to work for me on a Ubuntu 10.04.3 desktop.21:26
MikeChelenthe usb stick activity light keeps flashing, which it normally doesnt, so i think there is just something trying to access it improperly21:27
MikeChelenyeah if automount were disabled that would be fine, but usually the behavior is acceptable21:27
MikeChelenalso a lazy unmount might help21:28
MikeChelenand sudo unmount would help too if the rogue process causing volume access is being run only under my user21:28

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