[00:03] <phillw> philipballew: have you run the self test on the CD?
[00:05] <philipballew> no
[00:09] <Ma5t3rw1tt> I have a really quick question. I finally found out how to get applications to start automatically but I was wondering if there was a command I could add to make the program minimized?
[00:34] <Gabby> when i upgraded my system from ubuntu to lubuntu, i did not see the option for encrypted /home partition.  i had an encrypted home partition, however now it just shows a bunch of files listed as *.part
[00:34] <Gabby> as a resutl much of the information is encrypted
[00:34] <Gabby> any suggestions?
[00:46] <Unit193> Ahmuck: I haven't worked with encryption much outside of TrueCrypt, you may also like to check #ubuntu or maybe #ubuntu-beginners
[00:47] <Ahmuck> ya, cept it wasn't ubuntu that borked the encrypted partition
[00:47] <Ahmuck> is lubuntu going to support encrypted partitions in the next release?
[00:47] <Ahmuck>  /home encryptions?
[00:47] <Unit193> AFAIK, it's supported now
[00:47] <Unit193> Just the convert killed it
[00:48] <Ahmuck> the convert?
[00:51] <Unit193> What version of Ubuntu was it
[00:51] <Unit193> ?
[01:23] <Ahmuck> the last one.  10.10
[01:23] <Ahmuck> er, kubuntu 10.10
[01:23] <Ahmuck> er, maybee ubuntu 10.10, don't recall now
[01:23] <Ahmuck> prolly kubuntu 10.10
[01:26] <Unit193> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseNotes/MaverickMeerkat I don't see anything about encryption here, but there was in 10.04
[01:27] <Ahmuck> so i wonder how it or i borked my install
[01:27] <Ahmuck> i wonder if there is a way to get my files back
[01:31] <Unit193> Take a glance here maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1690865&page=2 or wait for another helper
[07:01] <dimkins> есть кто русский?
[07:08] <Mohan_chml> dimkins: English please
[07:10] <Unit193> !ru
[07:10] <Mohan_chml> dimkins: ^
[07:11] <dimkins> Mohan ты русский?
[07:21]  * Mohan_chml is not a Russian. But knows to use Google translate :D
[15:39] <BossDj> Can anyone help me with a sound card issue?
[18:53] <MrChrisDruif> Hi guys and girls
[18:56] <MrChrisDruif> Is it possible to reverse the scroll direction in lxde?
[18:58] <MrChrisDruif> Anyone?
[19:01] <MrChrisDruif> IAmNotThatGuy; do you know by any chance?
[19:02] <IAmNotThatGuy> MrChrisDruif, I have seen it somewhere. Now I am a bit busy man. I ll come back to that
[19:02] <KM0201> MrChrisDruif: reverse the scroll direction?
[19:02] <IAmNotThatGuy> 5 mins
[19:03] <MrChrisDruif> KM0201; yeah, like they've got in Mac Lion
[19:03] <jmarsden> MrChrisDruif: Are you writing in a language that is written right-to-left?  Learning Hebrew, or something like that?
[19:03] <MrChrisDruif> >_<
[19:04] <KM0201> MrChrisDruif: considering i don't use mac lion, i don't really understand what you mean by "scroll direction"
[19:05] <MrChrisDruif> Well, when you scroll with the mouse wheel (or on the trackpad) you move the page down with by "pulling down", but I want to reverse that
[19:06] <MrChrisDruif> Like in this article: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/07/reverse-natural-scrolling-ubuntu-os-lion/
[19:11] <MrChrisDruif> I've managed to get it working in Gnome, but I also want it in lxde (if possible)
[20:39] <MikeChelen> where should lubuntu bugs be reported? can't find an option to create a new issue on launchpad
[20:39] <jmarsden> Launchpad is the correct place.
[20:40] <jmarsden> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs  should have all the details.
[20:43] <MikeChelen> jmarsden: ah ok, its not a crash though, just noticed the filename for the iso in the lubuntu torrent is wrong
[20:44] <jmarsden> So the bug is a typo in a wiki page?  Which page? you or I can fix that!
[20:44] <MikeChelen> it should be reported in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/ even if it is for lubuntu right
[20:44] <MikeChelen> not wiki
[20:44] <MikeChelen> well, idk maybe
[20:45] <MikeChelen> on this page: http://lubuntu.lafibre.info/11.04/
[20:45] <jmarsden> That's not an official Lubuntu website... reportthat to whoever runs that site.
[20:45] <MikeChelen> hmm its linked from official lubuntu site
[20:46] <MikeChelen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu#A11.04
[20:46] <jmarsden> Yes, it is someone who is part of the Lubuntu community, I forget who :)
[20:46] <MikeChelen> its the official download link tho
[20:46] <jmarsden> If there is a typo in the help.ubuntu.com page, tell me and I'll fix it right now.
[20:46] <MikeChelen> its not on that page itself
[20:46] <jmarsden> Wait... the official download location for 11.04 is the lafibre site?
[20:47] <MikeChelen> yes it seems so
[20:47] <jmarsden> That's new... let me check...
[20:47] <MikeChelen> okey
[20:48] <jmarsden> Looks like someone rewrote that page relatively recently, or else my memory is really bad...!
[20:49] <jmarsden> But you can't really file bugs about a non-Ubuntu site in LP, it doesn't really make sense, Ubuntu people can't fix that.
[20:49] <MikeChelen> its just weird because there is no other official download source
[20:50] <MikeChelen> guess i could add a note on the wiki page about the problem
[20:50] <jmarsden> well, 11.04 was not officially a Ubuntu release, we only became "official" from a Ubuntu/Canonical perspective in 11.10 :)
[20:50] <jmarsden> Better to post to the lubuntu-desktop mailing list, if you are already on that?
[20:51] <jmarsden> I'm trying to figure out whose site the lubuntu.lafibre.info is :)
[20:52] <jmarsden> Might be gilir, it is registered in France.
[20:55] <MikeChelen> ah ok
[20:56] <MikeChelen> i dont usually read the dlist, but im happy to post there if it would be helpful
[20:56] <MikeChelen> the problem is that the md5 sums have different file names
[20:56] <MikeChelen> than the isos from bittorrent
[20:57] <jmarsden> Sure, go ahead and post; whoever owns that site will be on that mailing list, I'm sure.
[20:58] <jmarsden> Oh, OK.  So you have to manually compare them after downloading; that would break using md5sum -C MD5SUMS    to test with...
[20:59] <jmarsden> Although in reality bittorrent checksums every chunk of the file anyway, so I'd be prettty amazed if you gto a bittorrent download sucessfully and its md5sum was incorrect -- probably the only way to do that would be a failing hard drive that didn't write what it was told to write when you stored the file!
[21:01] <MikeChelen> yeah its a bit redundant, but i had the image downloaded on one machine with a bt client
[21:01] <MikeChelen> and then copied it over the local network to another system
[21:02] <MikeChelen> which had no bt client, and wanted to check with md5 sums
[21:02] <MikeChelen> but ended up having to install a bt client on the 2nd system too
[21:02] <MikeChelen> just to check the file
[21:03] <jmarsden> No, that's unnecessary, surely!  You can just md5sum somefile.iso   and then  read the MD5SUMS file and see if the numbers match!
[21:03] <jmarsden> The filename being not quite the same should not be an issue for a human, right?
[21:04] <MikeChelen> yeah that seemed to be the other option, but for some reason i dont think it worked
[21:04] <MikeChelen> was on a windows system using some random md5 program, but not really sure what the issue might have been
[21:05] <MikeChelen> at that point i was focusing not on fixing the issue, but just getting the iso downloaded ok :D
[21:05] <jmarsden> If you have to use Windows, install Cygwin, then you have an md5sum command just as you do in Linux :)
[21:06] <jmarsden> Anyway, OK, mention it on the list and we'll see what happens.
[21:06] <MikeChelen> ah i did install cygwin, didnt realize there was an md5 util included (couldn't figure out how to install stuff in cygwin)
[21:06] <MikeChelen> its a loaner laptop so i didnt want to spend alot of time getting it set up perfectly
[21:06] <jmarsden> run the setup.exe and click on the stuff you want to install :)
[21:07] <MikeChelen> ok, thanks, its a small issue but its nice to have everything working without manual steps
[21:07] <jmarsden> Oh, I agree, we should fix it.  But you should not have needed to download twice because of this issue, that was my point, I think :)
[21:07] <MikeChelen> oh it has to be selected at install time? i installed cygwin a month ago the last time i actually used the laptop, and didn't recall the install steps
[21:08] <MikeChelen> oh, i didn't download twice
[21:08] <MikeChelen> i pointed the bt client to the iso and used its file check function
[21:08] <jmarsden> You can re-run the setup.exe from Cygwin and add stuff at will.
[21:08] <MikeChelen> cool, i will try that if i have to use that laptop again
[21:09] <jmarsden> That is also how you keep it updated -- run the setup and don't click any new stuff, it updates what is already there.
[21:09] <MikeChelen> thats nice, i wanted to use ssh too, but couldn't see how to install it without apt-get :D
[21:10] <jmarsden> :)  Yes, cygwin does have some sort of internal installer, but I just run the setup.exe when I need to add stuff, it works well.
[21:10] <MikeChelen> just dont have much experience with cygwin because i havent used windows in years :)
[21:11] <jmarsden> Good for you... my work needs it, so lots of machines I work on get Cygwin added to them :)
[21:13] <MikeChelen> yeah this windows lappy is for work, usually i just do server stuff but this needs to run flash for video streaming, and system is probably too slow for linux/flash
[21:14] <MikeChelen> i installed some windows version of git that included ssh, which was pretty helpful
[21:14] <MikeChelen> but it would be better to use a more general tool such as cygwin
[21:15] <jmarsden> yes... my two choices are virtualbox on newer machines, so Linux can run inside that, or cygwin on older machines :)
[21:15] <MikeChelen> oh yeah vbox would let me do the full thing
[21:16] <MikeChelen> but as long as i can ssh then its possible to connect to some other system and just work remotely
[21:16] <MikeChelen> im trying to get it to live boot for using it with linux at home, but the wifi card requires prop. drivers
[21:17] <MikeChelen> so cd wont really work
[21:17] <MikeChelen> and im having some issue making a liveusb stick
[21:17] <MikeChelen> which is weird because i have made these ok a million times in the past
[21:18] <MikeChelen> i think my desktop linux system is trying to automount the usb stick while meanwhile i try to write the new image >_<
[21:18] <jmarsden> For just ssh, you can use the Windows version of Putty.  For weird wifi issues, it's cheaper to buy a known-Linux-OK USB wifi thngie and use that, than to spend time on propietary wifi hardware, IMO :)
[21:19] <jmarsden> MikeChelen: For that, just wait for the automount attempt, then umount if it was mounted, and off you go... just a timing issue.
[21:19] <MikeChelen> jmarsden: i was using putty before, but had compatibility issues with key auth
[21:20] <MikeChelen> oh yeah maybe i have a usb wifi around here somewhere
[21:20] <MikeChelen> thats a good reminder
[21:20] <jmarsden> There is a converter for the file formats that you can use to get around the putty ssh key thing.
[21:20] <MikeChelen> i tried to tether my android phone a bit but dont really know the procedure
[21:21] <MikeChelen> yeah i think i ended up doing something like that, it just added an extra step
[21:21] <MikeChelen> and i think the first converter i got was one way in the wrong direction
[21:21] <MikeChelen> since i was working remotely and couldn't change the authorized key on the server
[21:22] <MikeChelen> for liveusb, having a little trouble figuring out what is the status at any given moment
[21:22] <MikeChelen> it might have gotten interrupted previously and now the usb bus is messed up until reboot
[21:23] <MikeChelen> the usb stick is appearing as a drive in nautilus
[21:23] <MikeChelen> (my desktop is regular ubuntu)
[21:24] <MikeChelen> and when i click the eject icon it gives an error about volume being in use
[21:26] <jmarsden> Weird.   You could try turning off automount completely in the host OS, but I forget the details.  Just waiting a while, then sudo umount /media/whatever   (if it got mounted there) seems to work for me on a Ubuntu 10.04.3 desktop.
[21:27] <MikeChelen> the usb stick activity light keeps flashing, which it normally doesnt, so i think there is just something trying to access it improperly
[21:27] <MikeChelen> yeah if automount were disabled that would be fine, but usually the behavior is acceptable
[21:28] <MikeChelen> also a lazy unmount might help
[21:28] <MikeChelen> and sudo unmount would help too if the rogue process causing volume access is being run only under my user