[00:13] <IdleOne> "they are savages"
[00:14] <bazhang> escott, seems to be handled. thanks for stopping by
[00:14] <IdleOne> ooof I better just shut up.
[00:27] <elky> escott, is there something else we can help you with? If not, please read the /topic of this channel so you can better understand how it operates.
[00:28] <escott> elky, bazhang helped earlier. just forgot to close the window
[00:43] <funkyHat> AuroraNites21 is/was doing the same thing on oftc
[00:49] <IdleOne> crossnetworkposting
[01:30] <bazhang>  [miraMiPolla] (~sylab@225.216.218.87.dynamic.jazztel.es):     wonder if thats sylarbot
[09:55] <vibhav> :|
[09:55] <ikonia> vibhav: I spoke to you yesterday about blindly posting things to people
[09:55] <ikonia> you have had enough warnings on this
[09:55] <vibhav> hey
[09:55] <ikonia> I will allow you back in the channel, but I'm going to put you on mute so you can't speak, but you can watch
[09:55] <vibhav> that is why I asked you , am I right?
[09:56] <Myrtti> if you are in doubt, then don't paste it
[09:56] <vibhav> But this time I asked ikonia
[09:56] <Myrtti> if you're not sure that your advice is sound, then don't give it and let someone else handle the matter
[09:56] <vibhav> ok
[09:56] <Myrtti> it doesn't matter if you ask
[09:56] <vibhav> :/
[09:56] <Myrtti> you know that there are people silly enough to try whatever they see in the channel
[09:56] <ikonia> vibhav: I'll allow you back in the channel but leave you on mute to observe, as you constantly give the wrong info to people
[09:57] <vibhav> there is no harm in trying that
[09:57] <Myrtti> perhaps even someone who doesn't even have the problem that [Ex0r] is having
[09:57] <ikonia> it will remove his xserver
[09:57] <vibhav> NO it will not
[09:57] <ikonia> vibhav: xserver-xorg-core
[09:57] <ikonia> vibhav: you told it to remove that package
[09:57] <ikonia> ahh, my apologies, you told it to re-install it
[09:58] <vibhav> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:58] <ikonia> dpkg won't reconfigure it either
[09:58] <vibhav> so?
[09:58] <ikonia> as the config is dynamic
[09:58] <ikonia> either way, it's wrong, you've jsut told him to dump a load of packages, when the software he's using is nothing to do with the packages
[09:58] <vibhav> unmute?
[09:58] <ikonia> I'll allow you back in muted, I'm wasting time talking to you when this guy needs help
[09:58] <vibhav> ikonia -the advice was NOT dangerous
[09:58] <Myrtti> THIS time
[09:59] <vibhav> so?
[09:59] <Myrtti> "so?"
[09:59] <vibhav> You said not to post Dangerous advice
[09:59] <Myrtti> are you seriously asking?
[09:59] <ikonia> vibhav: it was, it removed a load of ati packages that was nothing to do with the software he was using
[09:59] <ikonia> vibhav: you can rejoin but muted
[09:59] <vibhav> ikonia he still installed  fglrx
[09:59] <Myrtti> but not from the repo
[10:00] <vibhav> still the command will REMOVE it
[10:00] <ikonia> no it won't
[10:00] <vibhav> sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
[10:00] <Myrtti> why would it remove it
[10:00] <ikonia> it will remove the packages/file defined in the ubuntu packages
[10:00] <Myrtti> if it's not installed by package management, then package management wont see it
[10:01] <vibhav> but still this time I Read
[10:01] <vibhav> cd /usr/share/ati
[10:01] <vibhav> sudo sh ./fglrx-uninstall.sh
[10:02] <vibhav> I was going to post that ,
[10:02] <vibhav> But you banned me
[10:03] <vibhav> ahm
[10:03] <vibhav> *cough*
[10:03] <Myrtti> yes?
[10:03] <Myrtti> you're not banned now
[10:04] <vibhav> but still muted
[10:04] <vibhav> that does not make sense
[10:04] <Myrtti> yup
[10:04] <Myrtti> why doesn't it
[10:04] <Myrtti> you're allowed to benefit from the channel
[10:04] <Myrtti> just not allowed to participate
[10:04] <vibhav>  sudo sh ./fglrx-uninstall.sh I was going to tell him to do that but he banned me before that
[10:05] <vibhav> It was ikonia this time who did not read em carefully
[10:06] <Myrtti> you really are not getting what we are trying to tell you
[10:06] <Myrtti> let me try to put it as simply as I possibly can
[10:07] <vibhav> okay?
[10:10] <Myrtti> if we need to tell you every other day that your advice is not safe and that you need to leave the instructing to someone else that knows their stuff, that's too often
[10:11] <Myrtti> you either need to stop giving instructions that you've not tried yourself or have only hazy idea what they do, or we as operators need to find a way to limit the amount of damage you may cause to others
[10:13] <Myrtti> we can't assign a babysitter to watch the advice you are giving to others
[10:14] <Myrtti> and you can't chimp out on potentially malicious advice by asking people "is this command <paste> ok?"
[10:15] <Myrtti> :-|
[10:15] <Myrtti> ho-hum
[10:19] <Myrtti> well that was perfect waste of 20 minutes of my time
[10:23] <elky> le sigh.
[10:39] <bazhang> vibhav, hello
[14:42] <vibhav> ikonia please unmute me as I have a problem
[14:42] <vibhav> !topic
[14:43] <Tm_T> vibhav: unfortunately that is not going to happen
[14:43] <vibhav> Hello!?
[14:43] <vibhav> why!?
[14:44] <Tm_T> I'm basing my take on this that you still haven't learned why you are banned couple times and now muted
[14:44] <vibhav> You even know what has happened!?
[14:44] <Tm_T> and I really don't think "I need help" is any reason to drop the mute in this case
[14:44] <Tm_T> vibhav: I know what is been discussed here, yes
[14:44] <Tm_T> and I have followed your doings, yes
[14:45] <vibhav> ikonia -	ahh, my apologies, you told it to re-install it 	09:57
[14:45] <vibhav> ikonia thought I was telling him to remove it
[14:45] <Tm_T> vibhav: that is irrelevant to me
[14:46] <Myrtti> and by sheer luck it happened that this time the command wouldnt have broken things
[14:47] <Tm_T> all this has been clearly explained to him many times now
[14:58] <bobsaget> hey
[14:58] <bobsaget> put me in the real chan please
[14:58] <bobsaget> .........................................................................
[14:59] <Myrtti> why?
[14:59] <bobsaget> turkeys
[14:59] <bobsaget> i have a questoin
[14:59] <bobsaget> and you told me not to come back and i didnt
[14:59] <bobsaget> and im still here
[14:59] <bobsaget> maybe you should read the rules
[15:00] <ikonia> ??
[15:00] <ikonia> who was this guy ?
[17:20] <vibhav> smeca	hello, i've installed rollercoaster tycoon2 on 11.04, but the cdrom is not found on trying to run the game. can anyone help?
[17:20] <vibhav> 	
[17:20] <vibhav> gentoo-intel	smeca, http://m0001.gamecopyworld.com/games/pc_rollercoaster_tycoon_2.shtml
[17:20] <vibhav> is not that piracy?
[17:21] <vibhav> sorry check this http://pastebin.com/jiWwtdzX
[17:22] <Myrtti> huh
[17:22] <Myrtti> why the pastebin link?
[17:22] <Myrtti> anyway
[17:23] <Myrtti> a) he left the channel b) which part do you suspect is piracy?
[17:23] <vibhav> check it out Myritti
[17:23] <Myrtti> check what out?
[17:24] <vibhav> Myrtti,  http://m0001.gamecopyworld.com/games/pc_rollercoaster_tycoon_2.shtml is a link that points to a CD crack
[17:24] <Myrtti> alright, thank you.
[17:24] <Myrtti> was there anything else?
[17:25] <vibhav> no , except the fact , this user was warned by ikonia many times
[17:25] <vibhav> Done
[17:25] <vibhav> bye
[17:26] <Myrtti> any opinions on the subject are valued, I'm having a footbath and a glass of my favourite wine so I'm inclined to do nothing
[17:40] <charlie-tca> The only thing I can think of is "Why did you install it if you thing it is pirated?"
[17:41] <Myrtti> the only thing I can think of is that quite often even legitimately purchased games require nocd crack for functioning in Wine
[17:43] <ikonia> Myrtti: I'll give him a nudge,
[17:44] <ikonia> it's possibly not pirate stuff, in that I've had to use nocd crack on stuff when I'm moving my laptop around on games I own,
[17:44] <ikonia> we either help him configure wine, or point him at the wine channel
[17:44] <ikonia> not suggesting crack stuff
[17:45] <Myrtti> ikonia: thank you
[20:15] <gpc> hmm
[20:36] <Myrtti> an eye on egoga
[20:39] <Myrtti> how predictable
[20:39] <IdleOne> been trolling #debian for a while
[20:40] <Myrtti> been watching that at -monitor
[20:46] <Myrtti> surprised he hasn't rejoined
[21:07] <Myrtti> macer1: hi, how can we help you?
[21:08] <macer1> Myrtti, hi, I don't need help at this time :) I just wanted to look what is this channel for ;)
[21:09] <Myrtti> macer1: that's nice. Please have a good look at the topic too
[21:10] <macer1> Thanks, I have read it ;)
[21:10] <Myrtti> a-ha
[21:11] <Myrtti> right...
[21:11] <Myrtti> have a nice evening then
[21:11] <macer1> Thanks :)
[21:11] <Myrtti> cue: exit stage
[21:43] <seatia> hello
[21:44] <Myrtti> hello
[21:44] <seatia> for some reason my mouse and keys do not work in grub on my other pc  in bios they do
[21:44] <seatia> any idea
[21:44] <Myrtti> sorry, this is not the support channel
[21:44] <seatia> ok put me in it
[21:44] <Myrtti> this is for resolving your behaviour in the support channel
[21:45] <Myrtti> before it's resolved, you will not have access to the support channel
[21:45] <seatia> how do i reslove it?
[21:45] <seatia> jesus forgave me for my sins why cant you
[21:45] <IdleOne> We aren't religious.
[21:45] <IdleOne> Please be patient.
[21:46] <seatia> im doing myritti a favor by not changing my ip
[21:46] <seatia> so just help me out
[21:47] <IdleOne> Please be patient. I am looking up the logs
[21:47] <Myrtti> thanks, IdleOne will help you, I'm past my bedtime
[21:47] <Myrtti> good night everyone
[21:47] <seatia> great maybe Idleone will treat me with respect
[21:49] <IdleOne> seatia: seems you were posting youtube links. Please keep all discussion in #ubuntu support related if you want to just chat you are welcome to join #ubuntu-offtopic.
[21:49] <IdleOne> I'll remove the ban if you agree to follow our channel guidelines. !guidelines
[21:49] <IdleOne> !guidelines
[21:50] <seatia> ok sure
[21:50] <seatia> thanks
[21:50] <seatia> later
[21:50] <seatia> i read em yesterday
[21:50] <seatia> like i said yesterrday i didnt mean anything malious by it
[21:50] <seatia> but myrtti treated me like i did
[21:50] <IdleOne> ok ban is removed.
[21:51] <IdleOne> please join #ubuntu and part this channel. thank you.
[21:51] <IdleOne> keep an eye on them I don't expect much improvement
[21:53] <IdleOne> maybe I'm wrong
[21:53]  * IdleOne crosses fingers
[21:55] <Myrtti> ah, this is the fellow who did manage to play nice in the end
[21:55] <Myrtti> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/09/13/%23ubuntu-ops.html