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| uvirtbot | New bug: #852349 in php5 (main) "sqlite2 support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852349 | 05:02 |
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| CluelessPerson | BOOM | 05:26 |
| Error404NotFound | how would i display all pvs belonging to a specific vg? | 06:01 |
| Error404NotFound | got it | 06:02 |
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| madalin | hello, can anyone tell me how i can get the dhcpserver to lease forever ? | 09:09 |
| RoyK | anyone that knows any good speech syntesis software? or even better, a horrible one to make eightees-speech syntesis? | 11:10 |
| Daviey | flite, festival? | 11:15 |
| Daviey | or spd-say | 11:28 |
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| linxeh | hi there, I'm just doing an install of 11.04 server, and there is an option of "basic ubuntu server" in the list of software to install. Is there a list of the packages this will install anywhere? | 13:23 |
| linxeh | just look at the "server" meta package? | 13:25 |
| linxeh | ok nm, tasksel to the rescue | 13:27 |
| T3CHKOMMIE | good morning everyone. can anyone help me troubleshoot my dovecot IMAP server... thiings dont seem to be working :( | 14:09 |
| patdk-lap | depends | 14:18 |
| T3CHKOMMIE | patdk-lap, ive got postfix working and using webmin i can send and recieve just fine. i just cant get dovecot to server up the mailboxes via IMAP or IMAPS im using ubuntu server 10.04 | 14:23 |
| patdk-lap | dunno anything about webmin | 14:24 |
| patdk-lap | and without any other info I can't help you | 14:24 |
| T3CHKOMMIE | patdk-lap, do you know of a good tutorial for configuring dovecot with ssl? | 14:25 |
| ersi | I'd suggest reading either at ubuntu server guide or at dovecots documentation | 14:26 |
| ersi | there's a ton of reading about postfix, dovecot and so | 14:26 |
| patdk-lap | the postfix and dovecot websites are really the best, they have all kinds of info | 14:27 |
| ersi | indeed, a ton of reading there | 14:27 |
| T3CHKOMMIE | ok thanks ill get to it. | 14:29 |
| Myrtti | webmin isn't supported anymore, anyways | 14:58 |
| SpamapS | !zentyal | 14:59 |
| ubottu | zentyal is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal (Project formally known as eBox - including in Lucid/10.04). | 14:59 |
| savid | Hi, I'm looking into possibly using upstart to manage my website processes (using nginx + gunicorn), but I don't want to have a separate script for each website. Is it possible to have a single script manage multiple processes based on a given name | 15:49 |
| savid | for example, if my upstart service is called "website", I would want: "service website www.example.com start", and I would want upstart to be able to monitor and respawn that individual process for that website separately. | 15:59 |
| SpamapS | savid: just make multiple jobs that start on starting website and stop on stopping website | 16:03 |
| SpamapS | savid: you can even make website an empty job that just has 'start on runlevel [2345]' and 'stop on runlevel [016]' ... | 16:04 |
| SpamapS | savid: I hate to leave you hanging but I have to run.. maybe check out http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ as well :) | 16:04 |
| savid | SpamapS, cool, makes sense. Would I still need to have a script for every website, though? | 16:04 |
| savid | ah, ok. thanks | 16:05 |
| Xptical | Hi all. Anyone awake in here? | 16:39 |
| Myrtti | to some degree | 16:39 |
| Xptical | LOL. Understandable. | 16:39 |
| Xptical | I recently changed my residential cable to a business account to get around the 250GB monthly cap. | 16:40 |
| Xptical | I got a static IP along with that and I was thinking of setting up a personal web server. | 16:40 |
| Xptical | But I'm unsure about everything I'll need. | 16:41 |
| Xptical | I know I want to use Cherokee server. Probably PureFTP | 16:41 |
| Xptical | I'd like to use Postgres or some other SQL server to get away from MySQL | 16:41 |
| Xptical | And maybe Drupal as a CMS | 16:42 |
| Xptical | Am I missing anything? Maybe something to handle outgoing mail for Drupal's notifications... | 16:42 |
| Myrtti | can't really think of any valid reason to have anything to do with FTP apart from if you need to receive files from an embedded device that can do only that | 16:44 |
| Myrtti | or if you're hosting a mirror of something | 16:45 |
| Xptical | I think most FTP clients can do FTP over SSH. Right? | 16:46 |
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| Xptical | Some "dropbox" type service would be nice too... | 16:48 |
| Xptical | dropbox is blocked at my office... | 16:49 |
| patdk-lap | xptical, there is no ftp over ssh, unless you meaqn ssh tunneling | 16:49 |
| patdk-lap | there is sftp, but it really has nothing to do with ftp | 16:49 |
| Xptical | I was playing with FireFTP last night. If you tell it to use SFTP, it uses port 22. | 16:50 |
| patdk-lap | yes, that is sftp, not ftp over ssh | 16:51 |
| Xptical | So, yeah, probably no need for an actual FTP server | 16:51 |
| Xptical | What about outgoing mail? | 16:51 |
| ersi | Xptical: There's FTPS, which is FTP over a SSL encrypted channel. There's SCP (Secure Copy), FTP clients usually can't handle that thouhgh | 16:58 |
| patdk-lap | I don't know what scp is called secure copy | 17:03 |
| patdk-lap | it's really just a normal ssh session, that and you run normal commands | 17:03 |
| patdk-lap | makes it hell to secure | 17:03 |
| ersi | patdk-lap: Well well, it's called 'secury copy' none the less | 17:14 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #852479 in asterisk (universe) "Merge asterisk 1:1.8.4.4~dfsg-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852479 | 17:32 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #852484 in backuppc (main) "Merge backuppc 3.2.1-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852484 | 17:32 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #852601 in bind9 (main) "package bind9 1:9.7.0.dfsg.P1-1ubuntu0.3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852601 | 17:32 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #852705 in drbd8 (main) "package drbd8-source 2:8.3.7-1ubuntu2.2 failed to install/upgrade: drbd8 kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852705 | 17:32 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #852713 in drbd8 (main) "package drbd8-source 2:8.3.7-1ubuntu2.2 failed to install/upgrade: drbd8 kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852713 | 17:32 |
| HelloWorld321 | I think I've installed Glassfish (and NetBeans) via Ubuntu Software Center, and I see lots of glassfish folders in /usr/share/doc, and I see lots of glassfish jars in /usr/share/java but I can't find asadmin anywhere. Where should I be looking for asadmin? | 18:26 |
| jmarsden | HelloWorld321: You can use dpkg -L PACKAGENAME |grep asadmin # to list the contents of a package you installed, and look for asadmin in the output... | 18:40 |
| HelloWorld321 | tx | 18:46 |
| Dulcin | Hi, I have a question, I'm setting up an ubuntu server and currently setting up apache. https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html | 18:48 |
| Dulcin | Under 'Basic Settings' it mentions a 'Listen' directive, but I can not find this in the default virtual host file | 18:48 |
| ersi | It's not in the virtual host file, it's in another configuration file | 18:49 |
| oCean | Dulcin: it's in ports.conf if I'm not mistaken | 18:49 |
| ersi | oh yeah, that's the name of it | 18:49 |
| Dulcin | ok so it's included by default and my virtual host files can just leave that out? | 18:49 |
| Dulcin | that clears things up a little | 18:50 |
| ersi | depends on how your virtual host is configured :) | 18:50 |
| ersi | if it's answering on everything, ie *, then yes | 18:50 |
| Dulcin | Well I'm trying to set up a subdomain, so I copied the default file and am now editing it as the manual tells me to | 18:51 |
| Dulcin | but I couldn't find the Listen directive which it says should be there, so I was confused | 18:51 |
| DLCN | does it matter if my subdomain is an A record or CNAME when setting up the virtual host? | 19:01 |
| ersi | Nope | 19:02 |
| ersi | As long as the browser sends the correct "Host:" headers - it doesn't matter at all | 19:02 |
| ersi | record type doesn't have anything to do with that, afaik. It's just how the resolving of the names will occour | 19:03 |
| DLCN | Ok, I was just checking because the apache docs kept mentioning CNAME records | 19:06 |
| DLCN | But I was being stupid, forgot I was editing in the sites-available folder and not sites-enabled | 19:06 |
| DLCN | I got it to work now :) | 19:06 |
| ersi | ah :) | 19:06 |
| ersi | yeah, that shit has confused me a few times as well | 19:06 |
| ersi | (I was used to having one huge vhost config files before) | 19:07 |
| DLCN | heh | 19:07 |
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| Dulcin | so now that the file is copied, which one do i edit? | 19:15 |
| Dulcin | (sites-enabled or sites-available?) | 19:17 |
| Dulcin | looking at the file rights, I assume sites-available :) | 19:20 |
| Dulcin | I mean, symlink | 19:20 |
| HelloWorld321 | I just did a fresh install of Derby. Do I need to do something to make it auto-start? Will NetBeans launch it for me? | 19:32 |
| zastaph | under F4 Modes, would I choose "Install a minimal virtual machine" if I want to run Ubuntu server as Guest OS in VirtualBox ? | 20:46 |
| qman__ | can, don't have to | 20:51 |
| qman__ | that's what used to be known as the JeOS option, it strips out most drivers and things that aren't needed in a VM | 20:51 |
| qman__ | standard installation will work equally well, it'll just be larger | 20:51 |
| zastaph | am setting up an "ubuntu server LTS master" that I can clone for all kinds of purposes, so kind of important choice :) | 20:53 |
| guntbert | zastaph: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JeOSVMBuilder for an explanation | 20:54 |
| zastaph | and i think what is more relevant is if JeOS will work equally well as Normal .. that it wont have any disadvantages | 20:54 |
| Dulcin | Hmm, for some reason my apache virtual host file is not pointing to the right directory. The /var/www/index.html is displayed instead of /var/www/html/index.php - even though nothing in the virtual host file points to the old directory | 21:07 |
| Dulcin | ah got it working | 21:09 |
| leonel | hey ! xulrunner is gone in 11.10 .. what library replaces it ? | 21:12 |
| jmarsden | leonel: ask in #ubuntu+1 | 21:14 |
| leonel | jmarsden: thanks asking ... | 21:15 |
| Dulcin | Gah, these virtual host files are driving my crazy. | 21:20 |
| HelloWorld321 | how many Kbps in a 100BaseT network? | 21:21 |
| Dulcin | When I set my server domain to 'example.com' it does not redirect to the right folder | 21:21 |
| Dulcin | but if I make it 'test.example.com' it works? | 21:22 |
| qman__ | you do know what 100BaseT stands for, right? | 21:23 |
| Dulcin | I mean ServerName* | 21:23 |
| qman__ | 100 megabits | 21:23 |
| qman__ | your hosts file has to match up for it to work properly | 21:24 |
| qman__ | but that looks more like something else syntactically at fault | 21:24 |
| qman__ | maybe overlapping virtualhost definitions | 21:24 |
| Dulcin | I only have localhost + my domain in my hosts file | 21:25 |
| HelloWorld321 | so if I never want an application to use more than half the bandwidth, and it throttled in kbps, I could use 50,000 kbps? | 21:27 |
| qman__ | not exactly | 21:28 |
| qman__ | that's the line's data rate | 21:28 |
| qman__ | there are other things to consider like protocol overhead | 21:28 |
| qman__ | half or full duplex, and whether all devices are capable of saturating the line | 21:29 |
| qman__ | you should run a real world test to see just how much data it can actually push through | 21:29 |
| qman__ | halve that, and use it | 21:29 |
| Dulcin | hmm does ubuntu have something like fedoras fpaste? | 21:30 |
| jmarsden | Dulcin: pastebinit maybe? What exactly does fpaste do? | 21:30 |
| qman__ | and you should also reserve a few percent of your bandwidth outside of any allotments, to avoid saturation lagging you out | 21:30 |
| Dulcin | jmarsden: upload output to fpaste pastebin and returns an url | 21:31 |
| jmarsden | Yes, pastebinit is the equivalent. | 21:31 |
| Dulcin | cool thanks | 21:31 |
| jmarsden | You're welcome. | 21:31 |
| Dulcin | Here's my file, do you see any errors?: http://paste.ubuntu.com/691863/ | 21:34 |
| qman__ | yes | 21:35 |
| qman__ | the first directory statement isn't in quotes | 21:36 |
| qman__ | I don't know for a fact that it needs to be, but being syntactically consistent is important to avoid weird problems | 21:36 |
| Dulcin | hmmm, ok ill change it, but this was an exact copy of the default virtual host file | 21:37 |
| jmarsden | qman__: The /etc/apache/sites-available/default has it without quotes... :) | 21:37 |
| qman__ | fair enough | 21:38 |
| qman__ | you also don't have a "<Directory />" | 21:39 |
| qman__ | again, I don't know that it's required, but all of mine have it | 21:39 |
| Dulcin | they all have a </Directory> right? | 21:40 |
| qman__ | yes, I just meant there's no entry there for / | 21:40 |
| Dulcin | oh right, i removed that, | 21:40 |
| qman__ | nevermind that, I just looked on a different server | 21:41 |
| qman__ | none there | 21:41 |
| Dulcin | i will add that, but was confused with its meaning as i already pointed to the directory | 21:41 |
| Dulcin | oh ok | 21:41 |
| Dulcin | what I find strange is that it points to /var/www/[index] at the moment, instead of /var/www/html/[index] | 21:42 |
| Dulcin | maybe its because of the 000-default file that's in the enabled directory? | 21:43 |
| qman__ | well, here's two sites on one of my servers, which both work: http://pastebin.com/1zC6107S | 21:43 |
| qman__ | oh, you have both enabled? | 21:43 |
| qman__ | the sites must be overlapping | 21:43 |
| qman__ | disable the default and see if it works | 21:44 |
| Dulcin | yeah it's working! | 21:44 |
| Dulcin | that was kind of stupid of me | 21:45 |
| Dulcin | thanks for looking at it with me qman__ | 21:46 |
| zastaph | one of the first questions when installing ubuntu server is the hostname.. now, if I clone this VM shouldn't I change the hostname for each clone to avoid any network conflicts? | 22:28 |
| ersi | zastaph: Well, sure - if you're using DHCP. Otherwise the only thing I'd change is removing the dbus rule that holds the MAC address of your current virtual NIC | 22:40 |
| zastaph | the MAC address is changed when cloning (by vbox) | 22:41 |
| jmarsden | zastaph: Yes, but vbox is not smart enough to edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules for you, as far as I know. | 22:46 |
| zastaph | well i thought I would just edit /etc/hosts and another filed called hostname if I recall | 22:47 |
| jmarsden | zastaph: That's hostname stuff, not MAC address stuff. In Ubuntu, there are usually MAC addresses in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules -- so as far as I know, you will want to get rid of them before cloning. | 22:49 |
| zastaph | oh, before | 22:50 |
| ersi | This is valid for Red Hat and SuSE as well. | 22:50 |
| ersi | I'm speaking by experiance. And I use vbox as well. Took me several hours/a day to figure that interface names out :P | 22:51 |
| ersi | that's really all you need to think about when clonin', if it's a really basic vm :) | 22:52 |
| zastaph | do you use LVM for your guest OS's ? | 22:55 |
| zastaph | I installed the minimal virtual machine of ubuntu, and now under software selection with "DNS server, LAMP server, etc." there's also one called "Basic Ubuntu server" .. i dont think that option is with the normal install.. what would I miss if I didn't install that? | 23:02 |
| ersi | no, I havn't yet used LVM with my guests | 23:03 |
| zastaph | yeah i also thought it would be overkill as vbox allows you to dynamically resize and do snapshots | 23:04 |
| jmarsden | zastaph: Use tasksel to see what tasks are available and what they install. For your case, tasksel --task-packages server | 23:05 |
| zastaph | dont have access to shell yet | 23:05 |
| ersi | zastaph: I was considering it, but it felt overkill. Havn't had the need yet :) | 23:05 |
| jmarsden | Then install a boring default server, and add what you really need later :) | 23:05 |
| jmarsden | zastaph: Usually one has a workstation before one installs a server... | 23:06 |
| ersi | Mainly using it to have a system that is easily snapshotted and rolled back (for testing several of the companies software products and compliances) | 23:06 |
| zastaph | jmarsden, so to install "Basic Ubuntu server" or not? | 23:06 |
| zastaph | ersi yes but vbox already gives that functionality | 23:06 |
| jmarsden | zastaph: Up to you. You can always add it later using tasksel , as I said. i do not know your use case, so what you choose to install is up to you... | 23:06 |
| ersi | If you for some reason ever consider having SuSE 10.3 as a guest.. Stop right there and shoot yourself in the foot directly.. way more pleasant btw | 23:06 |
| ersi | zastaph: yeah | 23:07 |
| * ersi shakes fist in SuSE 10.3's general direction | 23:07 | |
| zastaph | jmarsden, im making a "Ubuntu server LTS master" that I can clone for different server purposes.. so I dont want to install more than I need.. but "Basic Ubuntu server" sounds like basic things to me | 23:07 |
| zastaph | ersi, no im staying with Ubuntu, it runs very good in vbox | 23:08 |
| jmarsden | zastaph: Either way works. You have some learning to do :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/691913/ has a list of packages from the 'server' task on my 10.04.3 LTS workstation, if that will help you to decide. | 23:09 |
| jmarsden | Really, whether you install that task at install time, or later using tasksel, does not matter. | 23:10 |
| zastaph | let me ask in another way then.. in the very beginning i pressed F4 and instead of "Normal" i chose Minimal virtual machine which seems to omit some drivers and apps not required for VM's .. now if I install "Basic Ubuntu server", won't I be back to normal then? | 23:11 |
| jmarsden | I have no way to determine whether any of those packages would be useful to you, "different server purposes" is way too generic for me to be able to tell. | 23:11 |
| jmarsden | I have no idea, but I don't think those are the same thing. read the package list and decide whether or not you want them :) | 23:12 |
| ersi | zastaph: Indeed it does. | 23:12 |
| zastaph | whats the difference if I install OpenSSH server here (in "Software selection") or if I do it using apt-get once I log in? | 23:14 |
| jmarsden | none | 23:14 |
| zastaph | and what difference if I install openssh with apt-get or tasksel | 23:14 |
| jmarsden | none. tasksel is just a way of grouping sets of packages together for convenience. | 23:14 |
| jmarsden | man tasksel | 23:14 |
| ersi | Prepare the guest with as much of what you believe will be the common software among your guests | 23:14 |
| zastaph | ok ill omit them all for now :) | 23:15 |
| ersi | If I clone a system, I want an exact copy to keep building on | 23:15 |
| ersi | and I always want to SSH into them | 23:15 |
| zastaph | right | 23:15 |
| jmarsden | ersi: But you need to regen your SSH host keys if you clone after install openssh-server, otherwise they all have the same host key, which is at least in theory a security weakness. | 23:16 |
| ersi | Yeah, I just deleted the keys in my 'master copy' ;) | 23:17 |
| ersi | It generates key on startup if no keys are found | 23:17 |
| zastaph | I just install openSSH on master, and don't generate keys for it, then clone | 23:17 |
| ersi | It'll try to be smart and generate keys for you, if I'm not mistaken | 23:18 |
| zastaph | hmm.. then I should not have installed it on my master? | 23:18 |
| jmarsden | zastaph: Just delete the keys before you clone it. | 23:19 |
| ersi | Or just shut sshd down, remove the keys and then clone it | 23:19 |
| zastaph | would be easier to just apt-get it on the clones | 23:20 |
| zastaph | bedtime, thanks for your advice | 23:22 |
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