=== Guest16661 is now known as CrazyGir === el_seano_ is now known as el_seano === andreas__ is now known as ahasenack === kees_ is now known as kees [05:02] New bug: #852349 in php5 (main) "sqlite2 support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852349 [05:26] BOOM [06:01] how would i display all pvs belonging to a specific vg? [06:02] got it === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia === mquin_ is now known as mquin [09:09] hello, can anyone tell me how i can get the dhcpserver to lease forever ? [11:10] anyone that knows any good speech syntesis software? or even better, a horrible one to make eightees-speech syntesis? [11:15] flite, festival? [11:28] or spd-say === nopf_ is now known as nopf === medberry is now known as med_out [13:23] hi there, I'm just doing an install of 11.04 server, and there is an option of "basic ubuntu server" in the list of software to install. Is there a list of the packages this will install anywhere? [13:25] just look at the "server" meta package? [13:27] ok nm, tasksel to the rescue [14:09] good morning everyone. can anyone help me troubleshoot my dovecot IMAP server... thiings dont seem to be working :( [14:18] depends [14:23] patdk-lap, ive got postfix working and using webmin i can send and recieve just fine. i just cant get dovecot to server up the mailboxes via IMAP or IMAPS im using ubuntu server 10.04 [14:24] dunno anything about webmin [14:24] and without any other info I can't help you [14:25] patdk-lap, do you know of a good tutorial for configuring dovecot with ssl? [14:26] I'd suggest reading either at ubuntu server guide or at dovecots documentation [14:26] there's a ton of reading about postfix, dovecot and so [14:27] the postfix and dovecot websites are really the best, they have all kinds of info [14:27] indeed, a ton of reading there [14:29] ok thanks ill get to it. [14:58] webmin isn't supported anymore, anyways [14:59] !zentyal [14:59] zentyal is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal (Project formally known as eBox - including in Lucid/10.04). [15:49] Hi, I'm looking into possibly using upstart to manage my website processes (using nginx + gunicorn), but I don't want to have a separate script for each website. Is it possible to have a single script manage multiple processes based on a given name [15:59] for example, if my upstart service is called "website", I would want: "service website www.example.com start", and I would want upstart to be able to monitor and respawn that individual process for that website separately. [16:03] savid: just make multiple jobs that start on starting website and stop on stopping website [16:04] savid: you can even make website an empty job that just has 'start on runlevel [2345]' and 'stop on runlevel [016]' ... [16:04] savid: I hate to leave you hanging but I have to run.. maybe check out http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ as well :) [16:04] SpamapS, cool, makes sense. Would I still need to have a script for every website, though? [16:05] ah, ok. thanks [16:39] Hi all. Anyone awake in here? [16:39] to some degree [16:39] LOL. Understandable. [16:40] I recently changed my residential cable to a business account to get around the 250GB monthly cap. [16:40] I got a static IP along with that and I was thinking of setting up a personal web server. [16:41] But I'm unsure about everything I'll need. [16:41] I know I want to use Cherokee server. Probably PureFTP [16:41] I'd like to use Postgres or some other SQL server to get away from MySQL [16:42] And maybe Drupal as a CMS [16:42] Am I missing anything? Maybe something to handle outgoing mail for Drupal's notifications... [16:44] can't really think of any valid reason to have anything to do with FTP apart from if you need to receive files from an embedded device that can do only that [16:45] or if you're hosting a mirror of something [16:46] I think most FTP clients can do FTP over SSH. Right? === Tohuw465 is now known as Tohuw [16:48] Some "dropbox" type service would be nice too... [16:49] dropbox is blocked at my office... [16:49] xptical, there is no ftp over ssh, unless you meaqn ssh tunneling [16:49] there is sftp, but it really has nothing to do with ftp [16:50] I was playing with FireFTP last night. If you tell it to use SFTP, it uses port 22. [16:51] yes, that is sftp, not ftp over ssh [16:51] So, yeah, probably no need for an actual FTP server [16:51] What about outgoing mail? [16:58] Xptical: There's FTPS, which is FTP over a SSL encrypted channel. There's SCP (Secure Copy), FTP clients usually can't handle that thouhgh [17:03] I don't know what scp is called secure copy [17:03] it's really just a normal ssh session, that and you run normal commands [17:03] makes it hell to secure [17:14] patdk-lap: Well well, it's called 'secury copy' none the less [17:32] New bug: #852479 in asterisk (universe) "Merge asterisk 1:1.8.4.4~dfsg-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852479 [17:32] New bug: #852484 in backuppc (main) "Merge backuppc 3.2.1-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852484 [17:32] New bug: #852601 in bind9 (main) "package bind9 1:9.7.0.dfsg.P1-1ubuntu0.3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852601 [17:32] New bug: #852705 in drbd8 (main) "package drbd8-source 2:8.3.7-1ubuntu2.2 failed to install/upgrade: drbd8 kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852705 [17:32] New bug: #852713 in drbd8 (main) "package drbd8-source 2:8.3.7-1ubuntu2.2 failed to install/upgrade: drbd8 kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852713 [18:26] I think I've installed Glassfish (and NetBeans) via Ubuntu Software Center, and I see lots of glassfish folders in /usr/share/doc, and I see lots of glassfish jars in /usr/share/java but I can't find asadmin anywhere. Where should I be looking for asadmin? [18:40] HelloWorld321: You can use dpkg -L PACKAGENAME |grep asadmin # to list the contents of a package you installed, and look for asadmin in the output... [18:46] tx [18:48] Hi, I have a question, I'm setting up an ubuntu server and currently setting up apache. https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html [18:48] Under 'Basic Settings' it mentions a 'Listen' directive, but I can not find this in the default virtual host file [18:49] It's not in the virtual host file, it's in another configuration file [18:49] Dulcin: it's in ports.conf if I'm not mistaken [18:49] oh yeah, that's the name of it [18:49] ok so it's included by default and my virtual host files can just leave that out? [18:50] that clears things up a little [18:50] depends on how your virtual host is configured :) [18:50] if it's answering on everything, ie *, then yes [18:51] Well I'm trying to set up a subdomain, so I copied the default file and am now editing it as the manual tells me to [18:51] but I couldn't find the Listen directive which it says should be there, so I was confused [19:01] does it matter if my subdomain is an A record or CNAME when setting up the virtual host? [19:02] Nope [19:02] As long as the browser sends the correct "Host:" headers - it doesn't matter at all [19:03] record type doesn't have anything to do with that, afaik. It's just how the resolving of the names will occour [19:06] Ok, I was just checking because the apache docs kept mentioning CNAME records [19:06] But I was being stupid, forgot I was editing in the sites-available folder and not sites-enabled [19:06] I got it to work now :) [19:06] ah :) [19:06] yeah, that shit has confused me a few times as well [19:07] (I was used to having one huge vhost config files before) [19:07] heh === DLCN is now known as Dulcin [19:15] so now that the file is copied, which one do i edit? [19:17] (sites-enabled or sites-available?) [19:20] looking at the file rights, I assume sites-available :) [19:20] I mean, symlink [19:32] I just did a fresh install of Derby. Do I need to do something to make it auto-start? Will NetBeans launch it for me? [20:46] under F4 Modes, would I choose "Install a minimal virtual machine" if I want to run Ubuntu server as Guest OS in VirtualBox ? [20:51] can, don't have to [20:51] that's what used to be known as the JeOS option, it strips out most drivers and things that aren't needed in a VM [20:51] standard installation will work equally well, it'll just be larger [20:53] am setting up an "ubuntu server LTS master" that I can clone for all kinds of purposes, so kind of important choice :) [20:54] zastaph: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JeOSVMBuilder for an explanation [20:54] and i think what is more relevant is if JeOS will work equally well as Normal .. that it wont have any disadvantages [21:07] Hmm, for some reason my apache virtual host file is not pointing to the right directory. The /var/www/index.html is displayed instead of /var/www/html/index.php - even though nothing in the virtual host file points to the old directory [21:09] ah got it working [21:12] hey ! xulrunner is gone in 11.10 .. what library replaces it ? [21:14] leonel: ask in #ubuntu+1 [21:15] jmarsden: thanks asking ... [21:20] Gah, these virtual host files are driving my crazy. [21:21] how many Kbps in a 100BaseT network? [21:21] When I set my server domain to 'example.com' it does not redirect to the right folder [21:22] but if I make it 'test.example.com' it works? [21:23] you do know what 100BaseT stands for, right? [21:23] I mean ServerName* [21:23] 100 megabits [21:24] your hosts file has to match up for it to work properly [21:24] but that looks more like something else syntactically at fault [21:24] maybe overlapping virtualhost definitions [21:25] I only have localhost + my domain in my hosts file [21:27] so if I never want an application to use more than half the bandwidth, and it throttled in kbps, I could use 50,000 kbps? [21:28] not exactly [21:28] that's the line's data rate [21:28] there are other things to consider like protocol overhead [21:29] half or full duplex, and whether all devices are capable of saturating the line [21:29] you should run a real world test to see just how much data it can actually push through [21:29] halve that, and use it [21:30] hmm does ubuntu have something like fedoras fpaste? [21:30] Dulcin: pastebinit maybe? What exactly does fpaste do? [21:30] and you should also reserve a few percent of your bandwidth outside of any allotments, to avoid saturation lagging you out [21:31] jmarsden: upload output to fpaste pastebin and returns an url [21:31] Yes, pastebinit is the equivalent. [21:31] cool thanks [21:31] You're welcome. [21:34] Here's my file, do you see any errors?: http://paste.ubuntu.com/691863/ [21:35] yes [21:36] the first directory statement isn't in quotes [21:36] I don't know for a fact that it needs to be, but being syntactically consistent is important to avoid weird problems [21:37] hmmm, ok ill change it, but this was an exact copy of the default virtual host file [21:37] qman__: The /etc/apache/sites-available/default has it without quotes... :) [21:38] fair enough [21:39] you also don't have a "" [21:39] again, I don't know that it's required, but all of mine have it [21:40] they all have a right? [21:40] yes, I just meant there's no entry there for / [21:40] oh right, i removed that, [21:41] nevermind that, I just looked on a different server [21:41] none there [21:41] i will add that, but was confused with its meaning as i already pointed to the directory [21:41] oh ok [21:42] what I find strange is that it points to /var/www/[index] at the moment, instead of /var/www/html/[index] [21:43] maybe its because of the 000-default file that's in the enabled directory? [21:43] well, here's two sites on one of my servers, which both work: http://pastebin.com/1zC6107S [21:43] oh, you have both enabled? [21:43] the sites must be overlapping [21:44] disable the default and see if it works [21:44] yeah it's working! [21:45] that was kind of stupid of me [21:46] thanks for looking at it with me qman__ [22:28] one of the first questions when installing ubuntu server is the hostname.. now, if I clone this VM shouldn't I change the hostname for each clone to avoid any network conflicts? [22:40] zastaph: Well, sure - if you're using DHCP. Otherwise the only thing I'd change is removing the dbus rule that holds the MAC address of your current virtual NIC [22:41] the MAC address is changed when cloning (by vbox) [22:46] zastaph: Yes, but vbox is not smart enough to edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules for you, as far as I know. [22:47] well i thought I would just edit /etc/hosts and another filed called hostname if I recall [22:49] zastaph: That's hostname stuff, not MAC address stuff. In Ubuntu, there are usually MAC addresses in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules -- so as far as I know, you will want to get rid of them before cloning. [22:50] oh, before [22:50] This is valid for Red Hat and SuSE as well. [22:51] I'm speaking by experiance. And I use vbox as well. Took me several hours/a day to figure that interface names out :P [22:52] that's really all you need to think about when clonin', if it's a really basic vm :) [22:55] do you use LVM for your guest OS's ? [23:02] I installed the minimal virtual machine of ubuntu, and now under software selection with "DNS server, LAMP server, etc." there's also one called "Basic Ubuntu server" .. i dont think that option is with the normal install.. what would I miss if I didn't install that? [23:03] no, I havn't yet used LVM with my guests [23:04] yeah i also thought it would be overkill as vbox allows you to dynamically resize and do snapshots [23:05] zastaph: Use tasksel to see what tasks are available and what they install. For your case, tasksel --task-packages server [23:05] dont have access to shell yet [23:05] zastaph: I was considering it, but it felt overkill. Havn't had the need yet :) [23:05] Then install a boring default server, and add what you really need later :) [23:06] zastaph: Usually one has a workstation before one installs a server... [23:06] Mainly using it to have a system that is easily snapshotted and rolled back (for testing several of the companies software products and compliances) [23:06] jmarsden, so to install "Basic Ubuntu server" or not? [23:06] ersi yes but vbox already gives that functionality [23:06] zastaph: Up to you. You can always add it later using tasksel , as I said. i do not know your use case, so what you choose to install is up to you... [23:06] If you for some reason ever consider having SuSE 10.3 as a guest.. Stop right there and shoot yourself in the foot directly.. way more pleasant btw [23:07] zastaph: yeah [23:07] * ersi shakes fist in SuSE 10.3's general direction [23:07] jmarsden, im making a "Ubuntu server LTS master" that I can clone for different server purposes.. so I dont want to install more than I need.. but "Basic Ubuntu server" sounds like basic things to me [23:08] ersi, no im staying with Ubuntu, it runs very good in vbox [23:09] zastaph: Either way works. You have some learning to do :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/691913/ has a list of packages from the 'server' task on my 10.04.3 LTS workstation, if that will help you to decide. [23:10] Really, whether you install that task at install time, or later using tasksel, does not matter. [23:11] let me ask in another way then.. in the very beginning i pressed F4 and instead of "Normal" i chose Minimal virtual machine which seems to omit some drivers and apps not required for VM's .. now if I install "Basic Ubuntu server", won't I be back to normal then? [23:11] I have no way to determine whether any of those packages would be useful to you, "different server purposes" is way too generic for me to be able to tell. [23:12] I have no idea, but I don't think those are the same thing. read the package list and decide whether or not you want them :) [23:12] zastaph: Indeed it does. [23:14] whats the difference if I install OpenSSH server here (in "Software selection") or if I do it using apt-get once I log in? [23:14] none [23:14] and what difference if I install openssh with apt-get or tasksel [23:14] none. tasksel is just a way of grouping sets of packages together for convenience. [23:14] man tasksel [23:14] Prepare the guest with as much of what you believe will be the common software among your guests [23:15] ok ill omit them all for now :) [23:15] If I clone a system, I want an exact copy to keep building on [23:15] and I always want to SSH into them [23:15] right [23:16] ersi: But you need to regen your SSH host keys if you clone after install openssh-server, otherwise they all have the same host key, which is at least in theory a security weakness. [23:17] Yeah, I just deleted the keys in my 'master copy' ;) [23:17] It generates key on startup if no keys are found [23:17] I just install openSSH on master, and don't generate keys for it, then clone [23:18] It'll try to be smart and generate keys for you, if I'm not mistaken [23:18] hmm.. then I should not have installed it on my master? [23:19] zastaph: Just delete the keys before you clone it. [23:19] Or just shut sshd down, remove the keys and then clone it [23:20] would be easier to just apt-get it on the clones [23:22] bedtime, thanks for your advice