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| daubers | Morning | 08:29 |
|---|---|---|
| AlanBell | morning | 08:39 |
| sagaci | hi | 08:39 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 08:49 |
| daubers | Woot! | 09:12 |
| daubers | Almost finished my short syncy script to keep a couple of folders of docs in sync with google docs | 09:13 |
| daubers | Just need to give it some intelligence as it assumes everything is a document at the moment | 09:14 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 09:24 |
| Laney | hiya | 09:26 |
| brobostigon | morning Laney | 09:26 |
| AlanBell | pronunciation question for you | 09:27 |
| AlanBell | spd-say "ubuntu" | 09:27 |
| AlanBell | spd-say "oo bun too" | 09:27 |
| AlanBell | or something else? | 09:27 |
| MartijnVdS | https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ladkaalcnedlcimjgaldjoeahnklilnk | 09:29 |
| AlanBell | and can you get spd-say to pronunce ocelot? | 09:36 |
| kvarley | What tool should I be using to convert .glade UI's to bash scripts? I used to use gtkdialog but it's no longer in the repos | 09:41 |
| czajkowski | Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooo | 10:17 |
| AlanBell | :) | 10:17 |
| * AlanBell thinks czajkowski just beat the aussies | 10:17 | |
| AlanBell | spd-say "ubuntu oh nairic ossselot" < does that sound right? | 10:18 |
| AlanBell | run it from a terminal | 10:19 |
| czajkowski | we did | 10:19 |
| czajkowski | :D | 10:19 |
| AlanBell | spd-say "ubuntu oh niric osselot" maybe | 10:19 |
| matti | Hm. | 10:20 |
| gord | AlanBell, maybe its my northernness creeping in, but "ubuntu on-eric osselot" sounds best to me | 11:01 |
| czajkowski | aat least it's geting the Ubuntu right | 11:08 |
| czajkowski | dear gods some folks say it and it's almost cringe worthy | 11:08 |
| czajkowski | Ubuuutu | 11:08 |
| AlanBell | spd-say "oo bun too" I kind of do that a bit | 11:09 |
| AlanBell | spd-say -t female2 "ubuntu on-eric osselot" sounds just like czajkowski :) | 11:10 |
| AlanBell | "ubuntu oh-neric osselot" seems good | 11:11 |
| MartijnVdS | which engine does that use? | 11:12 |
| AlanBell | espeak | 11:12 |
| AlanBell | by default, but speech dispatcher is a front end for any back end speech synth | 11:12 |
| MartijnVdS | that sounds very roboty in Dutch | 11:12 |
| AlanBell | yeah, it isn't great, but it does fit on the disk | 11:13 |
| AlanBell | http://mary.dfki.de:59125/ open Mary is much better, but is big and java | 11:14 |
| MartijnVdS | Google Translate's "speak" button is good | 11:14 |
| AlanBell | sure, but not really the point | 11:15 |
| MartijnVdS | well if it had an API... :) | 11:15 |
| AlanBell | the point being I want to patch orca so that it has a few pre-populated entries in the pronunciation dictionary so it doesn't sound so daft in the 10.10 installer | 11:16 |
| MartijnVdS | 11.10, I guess, but good idea | 11:16 |
| AlanBell | 11.10 yes | 11:16 |
| gord | unbuntu! | 11:27 |
| AlanBell | spd-say "oh-nigh-ric" has been suggested | 11:27 |
| geekMePlease | What is the dep for non-realtek drivers? | 11:30 |
| geekMePlease | * for natty 11.04 | 11:31 |
| geekMePlease | * trying to get usb mini nano wireless modem 802.11 working from Dealextreme | 11:32 |
| geekMePlease | * on Lenovo x60 | 11:32 |
| MartijnVdS | geekMePlease: "non-realtek drivers"? | 11:36 |
| MartijnVdS | geekMePlease: what kind of chipset does it have? | 11:36 |
| MartijnVdS | geekMePlease: (use "lsusb" to find out what it reports to the OS) | 11:36 |
| geekMePlease | MartijnVdS: Bus 001 Device 012: ID 0bda:8176 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. | 11:50 |
| MartijnVdS | And it doesn't work out of the box when you plug it in? | 11:50 |
| geekMePlease | MartijnVdS: does not seem to, see http://pastebin.com/DdvfQW3K | 11:51 |
| MartijnVdS | I see a wlan0 device | 11:51 |
| geekMePlease | MartijnVdS: it is my computer wlan, not the given wlan device | 11:52 |
| geekMePlease | MartijnVdS: there should be 802.11abgn | 11:52 |
| MartijnVdS | geekMePlease: can you pastebin the output of dmesg? | 11:52 |
| geekMePlease | MartijnVdS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/691478/ | 11:54 |
| MartijnVdS | yeah it's not recognised.. hmm | 11:54 |
| MartijnVdS | geekMePlease: there's a bug about this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/795770 | 11:54 |
| lubotu3 | Ubuntu bug 795770 in linux (Ubuntu) "Realtek Semiconductor Corp. [0bda:8176] not detected" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 11:54 |
| MartijnVdS | geekMePlease: it should work in 11.10 -- you can try the latest beta from a live CD | 11:55 |
| MartijnVdS | geekMePlease: the bug also lists a backport/workaround | 11:57 |
| === ging_ is now known as ging | ||
| geekMePlease | What is the terminal commnad to upgrade to 11.10 beta? | 12:01 |
| geekMePlease | not apt-get dist-upgrade | 12:01 |
| geekMePlease | - some option misning | 12:01 |
| MartijnVdS | geekMePlease: it's a beta, it's not quite finished, things WILL break | 12:01 |
| MartijnVdS | but if you really want to | 12:01 |
| MartijnVdS | do-release-upgrade -d | 12:02 |
| geekMePlease | MartijnVdS: Thank you! | 12:04 |
| isleofmandan | Good afternoon. I've just done apt-get upgrade on my Oneric box. Now have a "System program problem detected" dialogue box, that won't stop bugging me. Anyone know how to shut it up? | 13:11 |
| MartijnVdS | isleofmandan: what's crashing? | 13:11 |
| MartijnVdS | it should give you a program name if you give it a password | 13:12 |
| isleofmandan | er, how do it find out? *blush* | 13:12 |
| isleofmandan | appears as soon as I log in | 13:12 |
| MartijnVdS | yes | 13:12 |
| MartijnVdS | and the dialog box has 2 options | 13:12 |
| isleofmandan | it prompts for password | 13:12 |
| isleofmandan | but then nothing happens | 13:12 |
| MartijnVdS | it should show you a bug report tool with the crashing program's name in it | 13:12 |
| isleofmandan | 3 seconds later, a new "system problem..." dialogue pops up. Cycle repeats forever! | 13:12 |
| MartijnVdS | what happens if you choose the other option | 13:13 |
| AlanBell | isleofmandan: yes, that is a completel pain | 13:13 |
| MartijnVdS | "cancel"? | 13:13 |
| isleofmandan | it pops up again... | 13:13 |
| isleofmandan | :) | 13:13 |
| isleofmandan | hence my trip here :) | 13:13 |
| AlanBell | you can turn off apport somehow | 13:13 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: Completel? http://www.completel.fr/? We work with them at work :P | 13:13 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: that still doesn't stop the crashing he's seeing | 13:14 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: if something's respawning and dieing, turning off apport won't stop that, only hide it | 13:14 |
| AlanBell | yeah, I know. Unity is a bit of a crashfest | 13:14 |
| isleofmandan | If i leave the dialogue open, and hide it behind other windows it's not too bad. I guess that will have to do until the clever people fix it. | 13:14 |
| AlanBell | I was finding the global menu was a bit crashy and respawny | 13:15 |
| gord | hrrm, i put "crewe bus times" into google and it automatically found the bus i wanted... i'm terrified | 13:19 |
| isleofmandan | Ah ha. Using xkill on the dialogue box is a permanent fix :) | 13:19 |
| === AlanBell changed the topic of #ubuntu-uk to: Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://ubuntu-uk.org | This channel is publicly archived http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Mailing List http://tinyurl.com/uukml | Support Guidelines http://tinyurl.com/uuksupport | Meeting 19th September 21:00 UK time #ubuntu-uk-meeting | Happy Software Freedom Day \o/ | ||
| shavington | Hi all very quiet today | 14:11 |
| * AlanBell files bug 852583 | 14:17 | |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 852583 in gnome-orca (Ubuntu) "Orca does not pronounce "Oneiric Ocelot" very well" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852583 | 14:17 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: get it to say czajkowski | 14:17 |
| AlanBell | see zaj kowski | 14:18 |
| AlanBell | spd-say "chycofski" | 14:18 |
| AlanBell | add a comment to the bug if you want that distro patched in to orca :) | 14:19 |
| czajkowski | lol | 14:19 |
| czajkowski | I'll be good | 14:19 |
| shauno | can you install different voices/languages for orca? | 14:25 |
| StevenR | yes | 14:25 |
| AlanBell | shauno: yeah, speech dispatcher is just a front end for any kind of synth | 14:27 |
| AlanBell | you can use it with hardware voice synthesisers, refreshable braille devices, all sorts | 14:27 |
| AlanBell | and I knocked together a speech dispatcher module that just outputs to a file so you can tail that in a window and I can test things silently and get a full transcript of what it is trying to say | 14:28 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Hi AlanBell - Just thought I drop in and say "load average: 75.00," ;-) Now off to make a lasagne. ttfn | 14:29 |
| AlanBell | TheOpenSourcerer: great, hope it crashes soon! | 14:29 |
| shauno | mine handles foreign text better if I use a voice that's intended for that language .. doesn't sound like there's a direct parallel for that tho | 14:29 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | lol | 14:29 |
| AlanBell | shauno: speech dispatcher can pass through the language and voice settings | 14:30 |
| shauno | so it's up to whatever synth you use to do something useful with that | 14:30 |
| AlanBell | try spd-say français | 14:31 |
| AlanBell | and spd-say -l fr français | 14:31 |
| AlanBell | or even spd-say -t female3 -l fr "je m'appelle issyl0 et je parle français" | 14:33 |
| MartijnVdS | issyl0 is a robot?! :) | 14:34 |
| shauno | hm. so cz<tab> is much more convincing with -l pl | 14:36 |
| AlanBell | it is indeed | 14:38 |
| czajkowski | eh? | 14:41 |
| BigRedS | wait, you can call *people* with arguments now? | 14:41 |
| MartijnVdS | ? | 14:41 |
| BigRedS | If there's anyone I'd not do that to, it'd cz<tab> | 14:41 |
| shauno | calling people with arguments is my speciality :/ | 14:42 |
| BigRedS | haha | 14:42 |
| BigRedS | Oh, I've read back now. That's less fun. | 14:42 |
| AlanBell | spd-say -l pl "czajkowski" | 14:42 |
| czajkowski | BigRedS: only with rugby | 14:42 |
| shauno | yeah. just getting festival to make less of a hash of it by throwing it some hints | 14:42 |
| czajkowski | best not to argue with me about that | 14:43 |
| shauno | I've been having to do something similar with mine, but it uses different voices for different languages, which can be rather jarring | 14:43 |
| mgdm | shauno -rf / | 14:43 |
| MartijnVdS | mgdm: now you've shaunoed all over your filesystem.. | 14:47 |
| AlanBell | shauno: I would quite like to do an audio irc client as an irssi plugin that assigns a different voice for each person | 14:47 |
| shauno | the worrying thing is I'd be tempted to use such a thing | 14:49 |
| BigRedS | so long as there's a ranty voice for all-caps words | 14:49 |
| BigRedS | and the bots sound like glados from portal | 14:50 |
| shauno | I use voice notifications for far, far too many things. my current irk is that I can't get it to use different languages for specific parts of a message | 14:54 |
| shauno | so I can either have it mangle their name, or put the whole statement in that language | 14:54 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: HTML, <span lang=""></span> + fancy speech-enabled web browser? | 14:55 |
| shauno | my web browser would be on the short list of things that don't talk to me ;) | 14:56 |
| MartijnVdS | .. yet | 14:56 |
| shauno | but some sort of equivalent markup would be handy, yes | 14:56 |
| brobostigon | ok, why would it make any difference, if i can read from an sd card, with a usb adaptor, and cant just putting the sd card, into my eeepc's sd card slow, and then showing ntfs errors. whereas shows none, with the usb adaptor. | 14:59 |
| MartijnVdS | Sounds like the SD card and the Eee don't like each other | 14:59 |
| MartijnVdS | that happens sometimes | 14:59 |
| brobostigon | why is the usb adaptor making any difference here? | 15:00 |
| MartijnVdS | it might contain a different SD reader chip | 15:00 |
| MartijnVdS | or non-dusty contacts | 15:00 |
| MartijnVdS | stuff like that | 15:00 |
| brobostigon | ok, let me try a different sd card, one moment. | 15:01 |
| brobostigon | weird, that mounted fine. | 15:03 |
| brobostigon | hmm, | 15:03 |
| MartijnVdS | card/controller combination it is then | 15:03 |
| MartijnVdS | is it a very new/old card? | 15:04 |
| MartijnVdS | or a very new/old reader (or Eee PC) | 15:04 |
| brobostigon | the card is about 3 years old. the usb adaptor i bought last year, and my eeepc is dated, 2009. | 15:05 |
| shauno | looking at places I've had to override the language, seems my IM client is the biggest offender. I have 'new message from' or 'mesaj nou de la' depending on badly I want the name butchered | 15:07 |
| shauno | 'martijn' seems to work fine. the english voice turns ijn into een. but icelandic & romanian names in particular, it renders unintelligible | 15:14 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: try with -l nl | 15:14 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: that's what it's supposed to sound like (minus the robotness) | 15:14 |
| shauno | heh, festival doesn't do ijn so well in english :) (mart-i-gen) | 15:15 |
| MartijnVdS | exactly ;) | 15:16 |
| MartijnVdS | I'm not marty-gen :) | 15:16 |
| MartijnVdS | or marty jen | 15:16 |
| shauno | http://oneil.me.uk/martijn.aiff that's what mine comes up with (osx) | 15:17 |
| shauno | not sure I have a dutch voice installed to try | 15:18 |
| MartijnVdS | can't play that here | 15:18 |
| MartijnVdS | martijn.aiff: could not find codec parameters | 15:18 |
| shauno | seriously? even my amiga can play those :/ | 15:19 |
| MartijnVdS | really | 15:19 |
| MartijnVdS | even vlc doesn't work | 15:20 |
| MartijnVdS | (you know it's bad when..) | 15:20 |
| shauno | http://oneil.me.uk/martijn.mp3 | 15:21 |
| shauno | (lame, sox & libaudiofile have no problems with aiff :) it's this nasty gstreamer nonsense!) | 15:21 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: file martijn.mp3 tells me it's still AIFF :) | 15:22 |
| MartijnVdS | ah: "play" from sox does work | 15:22 |
| shauno | hah, tab fail | 15:22 |
| MartijnVdS | but it says "marteen", which is WRONG :) | 15:23 |
| shauno | heh, it's close enough for me :) (and sounds more natural than marti-gen) | 15:23 |
| MartijnVdS | that it does | 15:23 |
| shauno | trying not to install too many voices, because / is on an ssd, and they're 500Mb-ish each | 15:24 |
| MartijnVdS | yike | 15:24 |
| MartijnVdS | that's a lot | 15:25 |
| shauno | but names in particular I'm fussy about, else I find myself using the computer's version IRL | 15:26 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: try on Ubuntu "spd-say -l nl Martijn" and you'll get a good idea :) | 15:26 |
| shauno | yeah, I did. the end comes out more like ayn | 15:29 |
| MartijnVdS | ish. yes | 15:29 |
| MartijnVdS | Weird Dutch phoneme :) | 15:30 |
| MartijnVdS | we pronounce "ei" (egg) the same way | 15:30 |
| shauno | well, no-one ever claimed dutch was normal :p | 15:31 |
| mgdm | The couple of Dutch friends I have make no such claims :P | 15:32 |
| MartijnVdS | at least it's not Frisian :) | 15:32 |
| MartijnVdS | That's just English with a bad case of the Scandinavians :) | 15:33 |
| MartijnVdS | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Frisian_language | 15:34 |
| MartijnVdS | + #Folklore_about_relation_to_English_and_Dutch | 15:35 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Tony] Im a wedding photographer - http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2011/09/17/im-a-wedding-photographer-in-hampshire/ | 16:11 |
| shauno | oh good lord. good luck with that one | 16:12 |
| Myrtti | he doesn't really need it | 16:12 |
| shauno | weddings terrify me. tried it once, never again | 16:13 |
| MartijnVdS | What, going to, or participating in? | 16:13 |
| Myrtti | MartijnVdS: photographing | 16:14 |
| Myrtti | for munnies | 16:14 |
| MartijnVdS | ah | 16:15 |
| MartijnVdS | I've never cared enough about my pictures to try to do it for money | 16:15 |
| shauno | Myrtti: 'all of the above'. but specifically shooting them | 16:16 |
| Myrtti | I don't mind personally | 16:18 |
| Myrtti | I've got good enough camera to enjoy it again | 16:20 |
| Myrtti | well, photography in general | 16:20 |
| MartijnVdS | Oh I like taking pictures | 16:20 |
| MartijnVdS | it's just that when doing it for money, you need (a) skill, (b) some way to write bills (i.e. your own company, i.e. lots of boring administrative work) | 16:21 |
| shauno | I helped a friend with one in the states. quickly became apparent that I'm simply not cut out for it | 16:21 |
| MartijnVdS | also, when you do it for the money, it can take away the "fun" bit | 16:21 |
| MartijnVdS | same reason I don't code as often as I used to at home | 16:22 |
| Myrtti | having a sole propri... pro... whatever isn't too difficult in Finland, even easier in UK (I hear) | 16:22 |
| shauno | alcohol-assisted family feuds are not a conductive place to throw a very quiet geek :) | 16:22 |
| Myrtti | and I like bookkeeping :-) | 16:22 |
| MartijnVdS | see, I don't :) | 16:30 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: Are you talking about weddings, or small businesses :) | 16:30 |
| Myrtti | double-entry bookkeeping is easy as 1-2-3 after a bit of training and proper software :-) | 16:32 |
| MartijnVdS | Myrtti: see, I don't have either | 16:32 |
| Myrtti | I even found a Finnish one with ready made accounts that I does fine in Ubuntu | 16:33 |
| MartijnVdS | there's a Dutch command line one in Perl | 16:33 |
| Myrtti | ledger is in the repos | 16:33 |
| MartijnVdS | if anything, I'd use that | 16:33 |
| Myrtti | hm, ledger wasn't the one I was thinking of | 16:34 |
| Myrtti | oh well | 16:36 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Will Ubuntu run on a Pentium PIII? | 16:41 |
| MartijnVdS | TheOpenSourcerer: That's 686, so I think so, yes | 16:42 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | TY - A mate just dropped round an old lappy he'd like me to stick Ubuntu on for him. It's a PIII 500Mhz ;-) | 16:42 |
| MartijnVdS | awww :) | 16:43 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | No boot from USB... No CD | 16:43 |
| Myrtti | oof | 16:43 |
| BigRedS | so boot off floppy | 16:43 |
| BigRedS | :) | 16:43 |
| MartijnVdS | SBM floppy \o/ | 16:46 |
| penguin42 | TheOpenSourcerer: Net boot? | 17:50 |
| MartijnVdS | almost doctor time! | 17:58 |
| brobostigon | :) | 17:59 |
| * brobostigon expressivly flails his hands into the air. | 18:00 | |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: I'm imaging you making a "wubwubwub" sound like Zoidberg ;) | 18:09 |
| brobostigon | lol, no. :) | 18:09 |
| brobostigon | new dr who :) | 18:09 |
| * brobostigon gets a beer topup. | 18:10 | |
| * MartijnVdS gets the mint tea | 18:10 | |
| * popey tickles MartijnVdS | 18:21 | |
| daubers | Evening | 18:30 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: h, | 18:32 |
| MartijnVdS | hm | 18:32 |
| brobostigon | interesting, clearly certain inspiration in this episode. | 18:38 |
| popey | no spoilers pls | 18:39 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: of course :) | 18:39 |
| brobostigon | i didnt give away anything, :) | 18:39 |
| * popey sighs | 18:40 | |
| brobostigon | of course, no spoilers, :) | 18:40 |
| * hamitron pokes Azelphur | 18:42 | |
| * Azelphur counter pokes | 18:43 | |
| hamitron | is IRC up? | 18:43 |
| Azelphur | mine? yea | 18:43 |
| hamitron | I just disconnected from it, and can't connect | 18:43 |
| hamitron | working again | 18:44 |
| Azelphur | :D | 18:44 |
| HazRPG | Hmm, I've just wrote an e-mail to someone who wants to start developing chrome extensions... I'm wondering if I should C&P and put it onto my blog... | 18:55 |
| HazRPG | because it's a basic "hello world" extension... | 18:55 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | Always a good place to start | 19:05 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Andrew] nVidia GeForce 210 on Ubuntu 11.04 - http://whyareyoureadingthisurl.wordpress.com/2011/09/17/nvidia-geforce-210-on-ubuntu-11-04/ | 19:11 |
| czajkowski | dr.who wasn't bad | 19:20 |
| * hamitron gags czajkowski | 19:23 | |
| MartijnVdS | watching Confidential now | 19:24 |
| hamitron | I got it recorded, but not watch last weeks yet | 19:24 |
| hamitron | :/ | 19:24 |
| hamitron | and boxing is on soon | 19:24 |
| czajkowski | hamitron: hurry up so | 19:24 |
| czajkowski | MartijnVdS: any thoughts on what was behind #11 | 19:28 |
| * AlanBell will be watching Dr Who later | 19:29 | |
| penguin42 | hmph bbc radio webiste seems to be slow at the moment | 19:30 |
| mgdm | This Dr Who is rubbish | 21:04 |
| * mgdm digs out some proper old-school stuff | 21:05 | |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | Good evening mgdm | 21:10 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | Said you'd enjoy the zip wire :D | 21:10 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | anyone done any netboot installs? | 21:10 |
| mgdm | bigcalm_lappy486: indeed :) | 21:10 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | What's wrong with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/691851/ | 21:11 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | never gets past pxelinux.0 | 21:11 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | i.e. pxelinux.cfg... | 21:11 |
| mgdm | bigcalm_lappy486: Oddly enough, I was more nervous before my talks at FrOSCon than I was before stepping off a crane 150ft in the air. | 21:11 |
| mgdm | bigcalm_lappy486: says something about my psyche, that does. | 21:11 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | Ah, completely different | 21:12 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | The worst that could happen with the zip line is death | 21:12 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | Yet you could have been humiliated at Froscon | 21:12 |
| mgdm | Heh heh heh | 21:13 |
| shavington | What version are we up to | 21:22 |
| ali1234 | TheOpenSourcerer: ignore logs, break out tcpdump | 21:23 |
| ali1234 | most likely the problem is one of: permission error, typo in config file, or completely missing file | 21:23 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | mgdm: how recently have you played with cakephp? | 21:24 |
| mgdm | bigcalm_lappy486: never | 21:24 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | Aha :) | 21:24 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | I got bored again while on holiday | 21:25 |
| mgdm | oh aye | 21:25 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | One of my main client's project is in cake 1.1. So I'm used to cake, but thought I'd take a look at 1.3. Obviously things have changed, but the model/controller creation script seems to have gone. A bit of a silly thing to remove. CakePHP called their script Bake :) | 21:26 |
| mgdm | Heh | 21:27 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | Aye, having another go at my receipt logging app in another MVC, CakePHP this time | 21:27 |
| mgdm | bigcalm_lappy486: the closest I got to CakePHP was a slice of http://www.flickr.com/photos/afilina/5490242693/ in Canada last year | 21:27 |
| mgdm | oops, this year | 21:27 |
| mgdm | (it wasn't actually very nice- the icing was boggin') | 21:28 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | Hehehe | 21:28 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | Do you take your ElePHPant with you everywhere? | 21:28 |
| mgdm | That wasn't mine | 21:29 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | I was somewhat chuffed when my boss gave me an ElePHPant | 21:30 |
| mgdm | \o/ | 21:30 |
| mgdm | apparently you get pink ones now | 21:30 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | A normal sized one. He got one for himself as well as one of the BIG ones for his kids :D | 21:30 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | Ah, I like my blue one | 21:31 |
| mgdm | I have a normal sized one too, got it a few years ago, I believe it's one of the first | 21:31 |
| Myrtti | PINK?!?! | 21:31 |
| mgdm | Myrtti: indeed! | 21:31 |
| Myrtti | mmmm cake | 21:31 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigcuthy/sets/72157604110762041/ | 21:31 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | Hiya Myrtti :) | 21:32 |
| mgdm | Myrtti: http://www.flickr.com/photos/derickrethans/6123855470/in/photostream | 21:32 |
| Myrtti | awww | 21:33 |
| Myrtti | PHP is actually the language I've managed to get most stuff done | 21:34 |
| Myrtti | surprisingly | 21:34 |
| mgdm | me too | 21:34 |
| mgdm | it pays the bills, and has done for a while | 21:34 |
| Myrtti | ha. | 21:34 |
| Myrtti | what I mean is that I've actually done more than just a hello world with it | 21:34 |
| mgdm | Ah :) | 21:34 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | mgdm: mine appears to have been given to me in March 2008 | 21:35 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | Despite people bad mouthing PHP, I still do it and it still pays the bills | 21:35 |
| mgdm | bigcalm_lappy486: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgdm/2197674301/ was not long after I got my SLR, and I had the ElePHPant a while prior | 21:35 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | Aha, so late 2007? | 21:36 |
| mgdm | I suspect so | 21:37 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | I think this one and the next makes me smile the most http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigcuthy/2331031908/in/set-72157604110762041/ | 21:38 |
| mgdm | hehe h | 21:39 |
| popey | ebening all | 21:40 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | Evening popey lad | 21:40 |
| Myrtti | I wonder do I still have the code of my homebrewed CMS somewhere | 21:40 |
| mgdm | bigcalm_lappy486: http://t.co/lYbqPCH | 21:41 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | Sounds like a damn fine framework to me :) | 21:41 |
| mgdm | bigcalm_lappy486: (not my elephpant, but my dram :P) | 21:41 |
| mgdm | Hi popey | 21:41 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | Just found how to bake in CakePHP 1.3. They had moved things about more than I had expected | 21:58 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | I can actually recommend CakePHP. It's the most dev friendly framework I've been using so far | 22:14 |
| bigcalm_lappy486 | -sp | 22:14 |
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