=== Lcawte is now known as Guest60202 === Guest60202 is now known as Lcawte === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia [08:29] Morning [08:39] morning [08:39] hi [08:49] aloha [09:12] Woot! [09:13] Almost finished my short syncy script to keep a couple of folders of docs in sync with google docs [09:14] Just need to give it some intelligence as it assumes everything is a document at the moment [09:24] good morning everyone. [09:26] hiya [09:26] morning Laney [09:27] pronunciation question for you [09:27] spd-say "ubuntu" [09:27] spd-say "oo bun too" [09:27] or something else? [09:29] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ladkaalcnedlcimjgaldjoeahnklilnk [09:36] and can you get spd-say to pronunce ocelot? [09:41] What tool should I be using to convert .glade UI's to bash scripts? I used to use gtkdialog but it's no longer in the repos [10:17] Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooo [10:17] :) [10:17] * AlanBell thinks czajkowski just beat the aussies [10:18] spd-say "ubuntu oh nairic ossselot" < does that sound right? [10:19] run it from a terminal [10:19] we did [10:19] :D [10:19] spd-say "ubuntu oh niric osselot" maybe [10:20] Hm. [11:01] AlanBell, maybe its my northernness creeping in, but "ubuntu on-eric osselot" sounds best to me [11:08] aat least it's geting the Ubuntu right [11:08] dear gods some folks say it and it's almost cringe worthy [11:08] Ubuuutu [11:09] spd-say "oo bun too" I kind of do that a bit [11:10] spd-say -t female2 "ubuntu on-eric osselot" sounds just like czajkowski :) [11:11] "ubuntu oh-neric osselot" seems good [11:12] which engine does that use? [11:12] espeak [11:12] by default, but speech dispatcher is a front end for any back end speech synth [11:12] that sounds very roboty in Dutch [11:13] yeah, it isn't great, but it does fit on the disk [11:14] http://mary.dfki.de:59125/ open Mary is much better, but is big and java [11:14] Google Translate's "speak" button is good [11:15] sure, but not really the point [11:15] well if it had an API... :) [11:16] the point being I want to patch orca so that it has a few pre-populated entries in the pronunciation dictionary so it doesn't sound so daft in the 10.10 installer [11:16] 11.10, I guess, but good idea [11:16] 11.10 yes [11:27] unbuntu! [11:27] spd-say "oh-nigh-ric" has been suggested [11:30] What is the dep for non-realtek drivers? [11:31] * for natty 11.04 [11:32] * trying to get usb mini nano wireless modem 802.11 working from Dealextreme [11:32] * on Lenovo x60 [11:36] geekMePlease: "non-realtek drivers"? [11:36] geekMePlease: what kind of chipset does it have? [11:36] geekMePlease: (use "lsusb" to find out what it reports to the OS) [11:50] MartijnVdS: Bus 001 Device 012: ID 0bda:8176 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. [11:50] And it doesn't work out of the box when you plug it in? [11:51] MartijnVdS: does not seem to, see http://pastebin.com/DdvfQW3K [11:51] I see a wlan0 device [11:52] MartijnVdS: it is my computer wlan, not the given wlan device [11:52] MartijnVdS: there should be 802.11abgn [11:52] geekMePlease: can you pastebin the output of dmesg? [11:54] MartijnVdS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/691478/ [11:54] yeah it's not recognised.. hmm [11:54] geekMePlease: there's a bug about this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/795770 [11:54] Ubuntu bug 795770 in linux (Ubuntu) "Realtek Semiconductor Corp. [0bda:8176] not detected" [Undecided,Incomplete] [11:55] geekMePlease: it should work in 11.10 -- you can try the latest beta from a live CD [11:57] geekMePlease: the bug also lists a backport/workaround === ging_ is now known as ging [12:01] What is the terminal commnad to upgrade to 11.10 beta? [12:01] not apt-get dist-upgrade [12:01] - some option misning [12:01] geekMePlease: it's a beta, it's not quite finished, things WILL break [12:01] but if you really want to [12:02] do-release-upgrade -d [12:04] MartijnVdS: Thank you! [13:11] Good afternoon. I've just done apt-get upgrade on my Oneric box. Now have a "System program problem detected" dialogue box, that won't stop bugging me. Anyone know how to shut it up? [13:11] isleofmandan: what's crashing? [13:12] it should give you a program name if you give it a password [13:12] er, how do it find out? *blush* [13:12] appears as soon as I log in [13:12] yes [13:12] and the dialog box has 2 options [13:12] it prompts for password [13:12] but then nothing happens [13:12] it should show you a bug report tool with the crashing program's name in it [13:12] 3 seconds later, a new "system problem..." dialogue pops up. Cycle repeats forever! [13:13] what happens if you choose the other option [13:13] isleofmandan: yes, that is a completel pain [13:13] "cancel"? [13:13] it pops up again... [13:13] :) [13:13] hence my trip here :) [13:13] you can turn off apport somehow [13:13] AlanBell: Completel? http://www.completel.fr/? We work with them at work :P [13:14] AlanBell: that still doesn't stop the crashing he's seeing [13:14] AlanBell: if something's respawning and dieing, turning off apport won't stop that, only hide it [13:14] yeah, I know. Unity is a bit of a crashfest [13:14] If i leave the dialogue open, and hide it behind other windows it's not too bad. I guess that will have to do until the clever people fix it. [13:15] I was finding the global menu was a bit crashy and respawny [13:19] hrrm, i put "crewe bus times" into google and it automatically found the bus i wanted... i'm terrified [13:19] Ah ha. Using xkill on the dialogue box is a permanent fix :) === AlanBell changed the topic of #ubuntu-uk to: Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://ubuntu-uk.org | This channel is publicly archived http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Mailing List http://tinyurl.com/uukml | Support Guidelines http://tinyurl.com/uuksupport | Meeting 19th September 21:00 UK time #ubuntu-uk-meeting | Happy Software Freedom Day \o/ [14:11] Hi all very quiet today [14:17] * AlanBell files bug 852583 [14:17] Launchpad bug 852583 in gnome-orca (Ubuntu) "Orca does not pronounce "Oneiric Ocelot" very well" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852583 [14:17] AlanBell: get it to say czajkowski [14:18] see zaj kowski [14:18] spd-say "chycofski" [14:19] add a comment to the bug if you want that distro patched in to orca :) [14:19] lol [14:19] I'll be good [14:25] can you install different voices/languages for orca? [14:25] yes [14:27] shauno: yeah, speech dispatcher is just a front end for any kind of synth [14:27] you can use it with hardware voice synthesisers, refreshable braille devices, all sorts [14:28] and I knocked together a speech dispatcher module that just outputs to a file so you can tail that in a window and I can test things silently and get a full transcript of what it is trying to say [14:29] Hi AlanBell - Just thought I drop in and say "load average: 75.00," ;-) Now off to make a lasagne. ttfn [14:29] TheOpenSourcerer: great, hope it crashes soon! [14:29] mine handles foreign text better if I use a voice that's intended for that language .. doesn't sound like there's a direct parallel for that tho [14:29] lol [14:30] shauno: speech dispatcher can pass through the language and voice settings [14:30] so it's up to whatever synth you use to do something useful with that [14:31] try spd-say français [14:31] and spd-say -l fr français [14:33] or even spd-say -t female3 -l fr "je m'appelle issyl0 et je parle français" [14:34] issyl0 is a robot?! :) [14:36] hm. so cz is much more convincing with -l pl [14:38] it is indeed [14:41] eh? [14:41] wait, you can call *people* with arguments now? [14:41] ? [14:41] If there's anyone I'd not do that to, it'd cz [14:42] calling people with arguments is my speciality :/ [14:42] haha [14:42] Oh, I've read back now. That's less fun. [14:42] spd-say -l pl "czajkowski" [14:42] BigRedS: only with rugby [14:42] yeah. just getting festival to make less of a hash of it by throwing it some hints [14:43] best not to argue with me about that [14:43] I've been having to do something similar with mine, but it uses different voices for different languages, which can be rather jarring [14:43] shauno -rf / [14:47] mgdm: now you've shaunoed all over your filesystem.. [14:47] shauno: I would quite like to do an audio irc client as an irssi plugin that assigns a different voice for each person [14:49] the worrying thing is I'd be tempted to use such a thing [14:49] so long as there's a ranty voice for all-caps words [14:50] and the bots sound like glados from portal [14:54] I use voice notifications for far, far too many things. my current irk is that I can't get it to use different languages for specific parts of a message [14:54] so I can either have it mangle their name, or put the whole statement in that language [14:55] shauno: HTML, + fancy speech-enabled web browser? [14:56] my web browser would be on the short list of things that don't talk to me ;) [14:56] .. yet [14:56] but some sort of equivalent markup would be handy, yes [14:59] ok, why would it make any difference, if i can read from an sd card, with a usb adaptor, and cant just putting the sd card, into my eeepc's sd card slow, and then showing ntfs errors. whereas shows none, with the usb adaptor. [14:59] Sounds like the SD card and the Eee don't like each other [14:59] that happens sometimes [15:00] why is the usb adaptor making any difference here? [15:00] it might contain a different SD reader chip [15:00] or non-dusty contacts [15:00] stuff like that [15:01] ok, let me try a different sd card, one moment. [15:03] weird, that mounted fine. [15:03] hmm, [15:03] card/controller combination it is then [15:04] is it a very new/old card? [15:04] or a very new/old reader (or Eee PC) [15:05] the card is about 3 years old. the usb adaptor i bought last year, and my eeepc is dated, 2009. [15:07] looking at places I've had to override the language, seems my IM client is the biggest offender. I have 'new message from' or 'mesaj nou de la' depending on badly I want the name butchered [15:14] 'martijn' seems to work fine. the english voice turns ijn into een. but icelandic & romanian names in particular, it renders unintelligible [15:14] shauno: try with -l nl [15:14] shauno: that's what it's supposed to sound like (minus the robotness) [15:15] heh, festival doesn't do ijn so well in english :) (mart-i-gen) [15:16] exactly ;) [15:16] I'm not marty-gen :) [15:16] or marty jen [15:17] http://oneil.me.uk/martijn.aiff that's what mine comes up with (osx) [15:18] not sure I have a dutch voice installed to try [15:18] can't play that here [15:18] martijn.aiff: could not find codec parameters [15:19] seriously? even my amiga can play those :/ [15:19] really [15:20] even vlc doesn't work [15:20] (you know it's bad when..) [15:21] http://oneil.me.uk/martijn.mp3 [15:21] (lame, sox & libaudiofile have no problems with aiff :) it's this nasty gstreamer nonsense!) [15:22] shauno: file martijn.mp3 tells me it's still AIFF :) [15:22] ah: "play" from sox does work [15:22] hah, tab fail [15:23] but it says "marteen", which is WRONG :) [15:23] heh, it's close enough for me :) (and sounds more natural than marti-gen) [15:23] that it does [15:24] trying not to install too many voices, because / is on an ssd, and they're 500Mb-ish each [15:24] yike [15:25] that's a lot [15:26] but names in particular I'm fussy about, else I find myself using the computer's version IRL [15:26] shauno: try on Ubuntu "spd-say -l nl Martijn" and you'll get a good idea :) [15:29] yeah, I did. the end comes out more like ayn [15:29] ish. yes [15:30] Weird Dutch phoneme :) [15:30] we pronounce "ei" (egg) the same way [15:31] well, no-one ever claimed dutch was normal :p [15:32] The couple of Dutch friends I have make no such claims :P [15:32] at least it's not Frisian :) [15:33] That's just English with a bad case of the Scandinavians :) [15:34] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Frisian_language [15:35] + #Folklore_about_relation_to_English_and_Dutch [16:11] [Tony] Im a wedding photographer - http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2011/09/17/im-a-wedding-photographer-in-hampshire/ [16:12] oh good lord. good luck with that one [16:12] he doesn't really need it [16:13] weddings terrify me. tried it once, never again [16:13] What, going to, or participating in? [16:14] MartijnVdS: photographing [16:14] for munnies [16:15] ah [16:15] I've never cared enough about my pictures to try to do it for money [16:16] Myrtti: 'all of the above'. but specifically shooting them [16:18] I don't mind personally [16:20] I've got good enough camera to enjoy it again [16:20] well, photography in general [16:20] Oh I like taking pictures [16:21] it's just that when doing it for money, you need (a) skill, (b) some way to write bills (i.e. your own company, i.e. lots of boring administrative work) [16:21] I helped a friend with one in the states. quickly became apparent that I'm simply not cut out for it [16:21] also, when you do it for the money, it can take away the "fun" bit [16:22] same reason I don't code as often as I used to at home [16:22] having a sole propri... pro... whatever isn't too difficult in Finland, even easier in UK (I hear) [16:22] alcohol-assisted family feuds are not a conductive place to throw a very quiet geek :) [16:22] and I like bookkeeping :-) [16:30] see, I don't :) [16:30] shauno: Are you talking about weddings, or small businesses :) [16:32] double-entry bookkeeping is easy as 1-2-3 after a bit of training and proper software :-) [16:32] Myrtti: see, I don't have either [16:33] I even found a Finnish one with ready made accounts that I does fine in Ubuntu [16:33] there's a Dutch command line one in Perl [16:33] ledger is in the repos [16:33] if anything, I'd use that [16:34] hm, ledger wasn't the one I was thinking of [16:36] oh well [16:41] Will Ubuntu run on a Pentium PIII? [16:42] TheOpenSourcerer: That's 686, so I think so, yes [16:42] TY - A mate just dropped round an old lappy he'd like me to stick Ubuntu on for him. It's a PIII 500Mhz ;-) [16:43] awww :) [16:43] No boot from USB... No CD [16:43] oof [16:43] so boot off floppy [16:43] :) [16:46] SBM floppy \o/ [17:50] TheOpenSourcerer: Net boot? [17:58] almost doctor time! [17:59] :) [18:00] * brobostigon expressivly flails his hands into the air. [18:09] brobostigon: I'm imaging you making a "wubwubwub" sound like Zoidberg ;) [18:09] lol, no. :) [18:09] new dr who :) [18:10] * brobostigon gets a beer topup. [18:10] * MartijnVdS gets the mint tea [18:21] * popey tickles MartijnVdS [18:30] Evening [18:32] popey: h, [18:32] hm [18:38] interesting, clearly certain inspiration in this episode. [18:39] no spoilers pls [18:39] popey: of course :) [18:39] i didnt give away anything, :) [18:40] * popey sighs [18:40] of course, no spoilers, :) [18:42] * hamitron pokes Azelphur [18:43] * Azelphur counter pokes [18:43] is IRC up? [18:43] mine? yea [18:43] I just disconnected from it, and can't connect [18:44] working again [18:44] :D [18:55] Hmm, I've just wrote an e-mail to someone who wants to start developing chrome extensions... I'm wondering if I should C&P and put it onto my blog... [18:55] because it's a basic "hello world" extension... [19:05] Always a good place to start [19:11] [Andrew] nVidia GeForce 210 on Ubuntu 11.04 - http://whyareyoureadingthisurl.wordpress.com/2011/09/17/nvidia-geforce-210-on-ubuntu-11-04/ [19:20] dr.who wasn't bad [19:23] * hamitron gags czajkowski [19:24] watching Confidential now [19:24] I got it recorded, but not watch last weeks yet [19:24] :/ [19:24] and boxing is on soon [19:24] hamitron: hurry up so [19:28] MartijnVdS: any thoughts on what was behind #11 [19:29] * AlanBell will be watching Dr Who later [19:30] hmph bbc radio webiste seems to be slow at the moment [21:04] This Dr Who is rubbish [21:05] * mgdm digs out some proper old-school stuff [21:10] Good evening mgdm [21:10] Said you'd enjoy the zip wire :D [21:10] anyone done any netboot installs? [21:10] bigcalm_lappy486: indeed :) [21:11] What's wrong with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/691851/ [21:11] never gets past pxelinux.0 [21:11] i.e. pxelinux.cfg... [21:11] bigcalm_lappy486: Oddly enough, I was more nervous before my talks at FrOSCon than I was before stepping off a crane 150ft in the air. [21:11] bigcalm_lappy486: says something about my psyche, that does. [21:12] Ah, completely different [21:12] The worst that could happen with the zip line is death [21:12] Yet you could have been humiliated at Froscon [21:13] Heh heh heh [21:22] What version are we up to [21:23] TheOpenSourcerer: ignore logs, break out tcpdump [21:23] most likely the problem is one of: permission error, typo in config file, or completely missing file [21:24] mgdm: how recently have you played with cakephp? [21:24] bigcalm_lappy486: never [21:24] Aha :) [21:25] I got bored again while on holiday [21:25] oh aye [21:26] One of my main client's project is in cake 1.1. So I'm used to cake, but thought I'd take a look at 1.3. Obviously things have changed, but the model/controller creation script seems to have gone. A bit of a silly thing to remove. CakePHP called their script Bake :) [21:27] Heh [21:27] Aye, having another go at my receipt logging app in another MVC, CakePHP this time [21:27] bigcalm_lappy486: the closest I got to CakePHP was a slice of http://www.flickr.com/photos/afilina/5490242693/ in Canada last year [21:27] oops, this year [21:28] (it wasn't actually very nice- the icing was boggin') [21:28] Hehehe [21:28] Do you take your ElePHPant with you everywhere? [21:29] That wasn't mine [21:30] I was somewhat chuffed when my boss gave me an ElePHPant [21:30] \o/ [21:30] apparently you get pink ones now [21:30] A normal sized one. He got one for himself as well as one of the BIG ones for his kids :D [21:31] Ah, I like my blue one [21:31] I have a normal sized one too, got it a few years ago, I believe it's one of the first [21:31] PINK?!?! [21:31] Myrtti: indeed! [21:31] mmmm cake [21:31] http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigcuthy/sets/72157604110762041/ [21:32] Hiya Myrtti :) [21:32] Myrtti: http://www.flickr.com/photos/derickrethans/6123855470/in/photostream [21:33] awww [21:34] PHP is actually the language I've managed to get most stuff done [21:34] surprisingly [21:34] me too [21:34] it pays the bills, and has done for a while [21:34] ha. [21:34] what I mean is that I've actually done more than just a hello world with it [21:34] Ah :) [21:35] mgdm: mine appears to have been given to me in March 2008 [21:35] Despite people bad mouthing PHP, I still do it and it still pays the bills [21:35] bigcalm_lappy486: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgdm/2197674301/ was not long after I got my SLR, and I had the ElePHPant a while prior [21:36] Aha, so late 2007? [21:37] I suspect so [21:38] I think this one and the next makes me smile the most http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigcuthy/2331031908/in/set-72157604110762041/ [21:39] hehe h [21:40] ebening all [21:40] Evening popey lad [21:40] I wonder do I still have the code of my homebrewed CMS somewhere [21:41] bigcalm_lappy486: http://t.co/lYbqPCH [21:41] Sounds like a damn fine framework to me :) [21:41] bigcalm_lappy486: (not my elephpant, but my dram :P) [21:41] Hi popey [21:58] Just found how to bake in CakePHP 1.3. They had moved things about more than I had expected [22:14] I can actually recommend CakePHP. It's the most dev friendly framework I've been using so far [22:14] -sp