[00:07] <X-Hunter> how much ram is needed for xubuntu 11.4 live?
[00:07] <charlie-tca> more than 256MB to get it to login in oneiric
[00:07] <X-Hunter> is 504MB enough?
[00:08] <charlie-tca> according to http://xubuntu.org/getubuntu you can run it in 256MB
[00:09] <X-Hunter> awesome
[01:02] <ChristopherNG> Hello!
[01:03] <ChristopherNG> Or wait is saying "Hello" offtopic?
[01:03] <ChristopherNG> !ot
[04:00] <cappy> I'm having trouble with my audio, I've installed xubuntu 10.04 using the alternative install iso. I'm following this troubleshooter https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting . [code]find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd[/code] produces no output so I believe [code]sudo aptitude install linux-ubuntu-modules-`uname -r` linux-generic[/code] sould be the next step but apt tells me there is no package by that name available. could someone please he
[04:00] <cappy> lp.
[04:02] <moetunes> !find linux
[04:03] <moetunes> what does   uname -r   return?
[04:03] <cappy> one second
[04:03] <cappy> 2.6.32-33-generic
[04:04] <moetunes> cappy:  which xubuntu version are you using?
[04:04] <cappy> 10.04
[04:05] <cappy> i installed it using the low ram alternate iso
[04:05] <moetunes> have you ran an update and upgrade yet?
[04:06] <cappy> the software manager found a lot of updates and I installed them all with no problems
[04:06] <moetunes> !find generic 10.04
[04:07] <moetunes> !find generic maverick
[04:07] <cappy> you mean I should do sudo apt-upgrade and sudo apt-update ?
[04:08] <moetunes> yep you should be on the 35 kernel
[04:08] <cappy> hang on I'll try is
[04:09] <cappy> did both sudo apt-get upgrade and update, no changes needed
[04:10] <cappy> i just got the most recent iso to my nknowledge from the official site
[04:10] <moetunes> !find 2.6.32-33-generic
[04:11] <moetunes> !find 2.6.32-33-generic maverick
[04:11] <moetunes> !find 2.6.32-33-generic lucid
[04:12] <moetunes> you're using lucid 9.10 then if that's the kernel you have
[04:12] <moetunes> !lucid
[04:13] <moetunes> oops my bad
[04:14] <cappy> when I click on the information icon on the top left of the screen it loads a firefox tab which says : Welcome to Xubuntu 10.04 LTS!
[04:14] <moetunes> tep
[04:14] <moetunes> tepyep
[04:14] <moetunes> yep
[04:15] <cappy> no worries man you seem busy, thanks for the responses
[04:16] <moetunes> there's apt-cache search to get the right package name
[04:17] <cappy> ok I'll give that a go.
[04:20] <cappy> that didn't turn up anything, the page I'm reading says :You should see a whole list of items come up. If you don't, it means that the upgrade process missed installing the kernel modules for sound. To fix this, type this at the command line:
[04:22] <moetunes> you missed a - in your first message about that
[04:22] <moetunes> ]sudo aptitude install linux-ubuntu-modules-`uname -r` linux-generic[
[04:22] <moetunes>                                                            ^
[04:23] <cappy> ok thanks hang on
[04:24] <moetunes> sudo aptitude install linux-ubuntu-modules-`uname -r`-linux-generic
[04:26] <moetunes> !find linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.32-33-generic
[04:26] <cappy> I keep getting the same response: Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.32-33-generic-linux-generic"
[04:26] <moetunes> !find linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.32-33-generic lucid
[04:26] <cappy> and: Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.32-33-generic-linux-generic"
[04:27] <moetunes> !find linux-ubuntu-modules lucid
[04:27] <moetunes> !find modules lucid
[06:17] <edson> Hello
[06:17] <edson> I need help.
[06:29] <well_laid_lawn> edson: you tell about your issue in these support channels
[06:30] <well_laid_lawn> there's
[06:30] <well_laid_lawn> !ask
[06:30] <well_laid_lawn> :)
[06:31] <edson> My system like "freezes" when I don't use the mouse for like 8 secs
[06:32] <well_laid_lawn> try the X log in /var/log/Xorg.0.log and in ~/.xsession-errors
[06:32] <well_laid_lawn> see if they give a clue
[06:33] <well_laid_lawn> it's not normal behaviour tho
[06:33] <edson> Yeah, I hate it when I watch movies. I need to do something on my keyboard or mouse just to watch it continuously.
[06:34] <edson> How do I do that X log stuff?
[06:34] <well_laid_lawn> in thunar just browse to the /var/log directory
[06:35] <well_laid_lawn> open the Xorg.o.log file and check near the end
[06:35] <well_laid_lawn> s/.o./.0./
[06:39] <edson> Okay so I just opened the log and I don't know what to look for?
[06:39] <well_laid_lawn> you coould paste it in a pastebin
[06:39] <well_laid_lawn> !paste
[06:40] <well_laid_lawn> put xsession-errors in that to
[06:42] <edson> http://paste.ubuntu.com/691309/
[06:42] <well_laid_lawn> ok one min
[06:44] <well_laid_lawn> that seems fine
[06:44] <well_laid_lawn> I guess there's a dpms setting that's not right
[06:45] <edson> How do I fix it?
[06:48] <edson> Is this related the spin down hdd stuff?
[06:49] <edson> Does my HDD rests when the computer is idle?
[06:51] <well_laid_lawn> depends on some settings
[06:52] <well_laid_lawn> first off I'd try just renmaing the xfce4 config in ~/.config and logging out/in
[06:53] <well_laid_lawn> it has some X settings in there and they're not always the best
[06:55] <edson> rename the xfce4 folder?
[06:56] <well_laid_lawn> yep
[06:57] <edson> Is it safe?
[06:58] <well_laid_lawn> sure it's safe
[06:59] <well_laid_lawn> a new directory will be created
[06:59] <well_laid_lawn> and it'll have another go at the settings it chooses
[07:00] <edson> Okay, thank you sir.
[10:44] <kokoshmusun> where are the startup apps listed, I want to modify the apps that are launched at login
[10:59] <moylan1> settings -> settings manager -> session and startup -> application autostart
[11:02] <kokoshmusun> thanks
[16:03] <GridCube> my computer shutdown its self :(
[16:08] <charlie-tca> Oh-oh
[16:08] <charlie-tca> Have you got it set to in power manager?
[16:12] <GridCube> no, i was shuting down a vbox
[16:12] <GridCube> and pow! reboot
[16:16] <charlie-tca> the whole computer?
[16:16] <charlie-tca> ouch
[16:16] <charlie-tca> could be a one time deal, though
[16:17] <GridCube> i hope
[16:17] <charlie-tca> If it happens again, I would rnu a memory test on it
[16:17] <GridCube> okay
[17:28] <Guest24672> Hi for some reason when I type it's always slow to respond and half of what I type gets lost
[18:18] <qpnaosc> hello
[18:19] <qpnaosc> I have a question... couldn't find it on the internet
[18:20] <qpnaosc> it is this: I am trying to install the adobe flash plugin for firefox
[18:20] <qpnaosc> but I cannot find the firefox plugin folder
[18:20] <qpnaosc> I have unpackaged the .tar.gz file
[18:20] <qpnaosc> can anybody help me?
[18:20] <qpnaosc> or know of an easier way to do it?
[18:20] <Sysi> install xubuntu-restricted-extras if you want mp3 too or flashplugin-installer
[18:21] <qpnaosc> thanks
[18:21] <qpnaosc> where's that?
[18:25] <qpnaosc> hm, found it in the Ubuntu package search
[18:25] <qpnaosc> but I am a n00b
[18:25] <qpnaosc> and do not understand this page:
[18:25] <qpnaosc> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:26] <Myrtti> you don't need to download it from the web
[18:26] <Myrtti> use the package manager
[18:27] <qpnaosc> ah
[18:27] <Myrtti> System - Ubuntu Software Center
[18:27] <Myrtti> or System - Synaptic
[18:27] <Myrtti> either would work
[18:28] <qpnaosc> cheers
[18:29] <qpnaosc> I think I'm going to have to reinstall xubuntu, though... my last update was interrupted
[18:29] <qpnaosc> so I'll hopefully see y'all later!
[18:29] <GridCube> qpnaosc, you don't need to manually installit
[20:30] <switch101> how to remove last panel in xfce?
[20:36] <FrozenFire> Go to Panel Preferences, select it in the dropdown, and click the remove button.
[20:39] <switch101> FrozenFire: Yeah the remove button is greyed out if you only have one panel.
[20:40] <Sysi> it should ask if you want to kill panel, but you can do that manually too
[20:40] <Sysi> if you dislike autohiding panel
[20:40] <Sysi> "killall xfce4-panel"
[20:41] <switch101> Sysi: I can just add this to my startup programs?
[20:41] <Sysi> you shouldn't need to do it after one time
[20:42] <switch101> Sysi: Thanks
[20:42] <Sysi> rm -rm ~/.cache/sessions and save session on logout, with the tap on logout window
[21:33] <xubuntu907> нихерасебе
[21:33] <Sysi> !ru
[21:33] <knome> Sysi, bah. you beat me.
[21:34] <xubuntu907> !ru
[21:34] <Sysi> !bot
[21:34] <knome> xubuntu907, write '/join #ubuntu-ru' (without the single quotes) to join the russian channel
[21:38] <jbu> hi all...thinking of trying xubuntu.  wondering what people thought of the default apps?  how are the file browsers, irc apps, text editor, etc?  are they really really basic or can I expect them to be somewhat advanced?
[21:38] <knome> they are basic
[21:39] <Myrtti> however as with normal Ubuntu you can install whatever you want from the repos that scratches your itch
[21:39] <knome> sure :)
[21:39] <knome> (hey Myrtti o/)
[21:40] <Sysi> jbu: kinda hard to say what you refer to with "advanced" or "basic", they're quite usual apps
[21:41] <jbu> Sysi, like for example, does the file browser do previews? do any default apps have tabs? is the text editor anywhere near the adv features of kate?
[21:41] <jbu> etc
[21:41] <knome> Sysi, as far as the xfce idea goes, apps should have as little and as meaningful configuration options as possible
[21:41] <knome> jbu, the text editor is more like notepad
[21:42] <jbu> i see
[21:42] <knome> jbu, firefox + thuberbird for the web
[21:42] <knome> jbu, file browser supports previews, yeah
[21:43] <jbu> knome, thanks
[21:43] <knome> np
[21:43] <jbu> oh is xubuntu supposed to boot up faster than ubuntu?
[21:44] <knome> yes
[21:44] <Sysi> actually login but yeah
[21:53] <FrozenFire> Why does my system refuse to remember my browser preference? Every time I start my system, I have to set Chrome as my default browser.
[21:53] <Myrtti> how do you set it?
[21:54] <FrozenFire> I've tried both when it asks me to choose a default browser, and I've also edited it in the Preferred Applications settings menu.
[21:54] <FrozenFire> Each session, it forgets the setting entirely.