| bjsnider | i don't think xfce is really new at all | 00:11 |
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| penguin42 | erm no; it's a perfectly reasonable phrase though - as in red is the new black | 00:12 |
| cwillu_at_work | i.e., it's what we use now that gnome is broken by design :p | 00:13 |
| bjsnider | gnome is not broken by design | 00:13 |
| penguin42 | lets not get back into the argument please?! | 00:14 |
| bjsnider | there is no argument | 00:14 |
| bazhang | getting offtopic here | 00:15 |
| winut | any idea on how to get gnome-keyring to load on login? using kubuntu 11.10 thanks | 01:05 |
| winut | using evolution mail atm and that requires gnome keyring, as its not programmed to use kwallet | 01:05 |
| winut | evolution still prompts for the password, albeit just 1 with gnome-keyring installed. however, would be better to open without password. any ideas? thanks | 01:06 |
| ActionParsnip | I always set a blank keyring password, easier times | 01:08 |
| winut | does that work? on kubuntu 11.10 and evolution 3? | 01:09 |
| ActionParsnip | ive not used evolution but if there is a blank password then you will never be bothered for the password | 01:10 |
| winut | i think this maybe a new feature of evolution 3 | 01:10 |
| winut | I haven't had a chance to test it in ubuntu as the desktop crashed too much | 01:11 |
| winut | oneiric | 01:12 |
| IdleOne | !notunity | bonjohnjovi | 02:18 |
| ubottu | bonjohnjovi: To use GNOME Shell on Oneiric, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place a new entry in the Sessions dropdown on the login window. | 02:18 |
| bonjohnjovi | IdleOne, the thing is, apt-get install gnome-shell tells me no installation candidate available | 02:19 |
| IdleOne | try apt-get update && sudo apt-get install gnome-shell | 02:20 |
| bonjohnjovi | already done the update part | 02:20 |
| bonjohnjovi | doing it again. | 02:21 |
| IdleOne | hmm, you have the universe repo enabled | 02:21 |
| IdleOne | ? | 02:21 |
| bonjohnjovi | don't know, isn't it enabled by default? | 02:21 |
| bonjohnjovi | can't even install synaptic either | 02:21 |
| IdleOne | should be yes | 02:21 |
| bonjohnjovi | it doesn't seem to be enabled | 02:21 |
| bonjohnjovi | i'm on the livecd | 02:21 |
| bonjohnjovi | lemme check sources.list | 02:21 |
| IdleOne | what does lsb_release -a give you | 02:21 |
| IdleOne | oh, you are running live cd, yeah might be disabled there, can't imagine why though | 02:22 |
| bonjohnjovi | ubuntu oneiric (development) | 02:22 |
| bonjohnjovi | i just want to test stability before i dive in. | 02:22 |
| IdleOne | very wise | 02:22 |
| bonjohnjovi | yea, universe is not available | 02:22 |
| IdleOne | I dive in head firsty before checking if the pool has water | 02:23 |
| IdleOne | first* | 02:23 |
| bonjohnjovi | lol | 02:23 |
| bonjohnjovi | i'm looking for something stable, so i gotta check first :) | 02:23 |
| bonjohnjovi | trusting that beta is good enough | 02:23 |
| bonjohnjovi | and only gets better | 02:23 |
| IdleOne | well oneiric is still beta and stable enough'ish | 02:24 |
| bonjohnjovi | yea, i jumped to fedora 6 months ago, but want to get back to ubuntu | 02:24 |
| bonjohnjovi | it feels way better. | 02:24 |
| bonjohnjovi | and i can't wait for the stable release | 02:24 |
| bonjohnjovi | package installing now. | 02:25 |
| bonjohnjovi | its funny how the livecd is almost faster than an install because everything runs off RAM | 02:26 |
| bullgard4 | bonjohnjovi: Using a Ubuntu live CD will not make "everything" run off RAM. | 02:34 |
| bonjohnjovi | bullgard4, i know, that | 02:34 |
| bonjohnjovi | that's why i said *almost* | 02:34 |
| bonjohnjovi | package installs are certainly faster. | 02:34 |
| bonjohnjovi | except when waiting to read libs from the cdrom. | 02:35 |
| bonjohnjovi | right. upgrade done. | 02:36 |
| bonjohnjovi | time to switch sessions. | 02:36 |
| bonjohnjovi | ok. now in g-shell | 02:37 |
| bonjohnjovi | is it possible to make gnome-shell the default? | 02:53 |
| jbicha | bonjohnjovi: generally, whatever session you opened last is pre-selected | 02:55 |
| bonjohnjovi | ok. doesn't seem to act like that on the livecd though. | 02:56 |
| bonjohnjovi | thanks. | 02:56 |
| bonjohnjovi | laters. | 02:56 |
| bullgard4_ | IdleOne: <ubottu>: "To use GNOME Shell on Oneiric, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place a new entry in the Sessions dropdown on the login window." What are the names of these entries? | 03:43 |
| rww | No idea, try it and see >.> | 03:43 |
| rww | Internet says "GNOME" and "GNOME Classic", respectively. | 03:44 |
| bullgard4_ | rww: I have tried and looked at it before I posted here. I cannot establish the association of the 3 entries "GNOME", "GNOME Classic" and "GNOME Classic (No Effects)" with ubottu's mentioning of 2 packages. | 03:48 |
| rww | bullgard4_: GNOME is Shell, GNOME Classic is GNOME Fallback with Compiz, GNOME Classic is GNOME Fallback with Metacity | 03:48 |
| rww | erm, GNOME Classic (no effects) is GNOME Fallback with Metacity | 03:49 |
| bullgard4_ | rww: Thank you for explaining. | 03:49 |
| zhiwei | hi,all. My Desktop Icon has some errors, who can tell me the reason? | 04:28 |
| tjoy | I used to have an i386 alternate-install CD for oneiric, where can I download it again? | 04:45 |
| tjoy | n/m found one | 04:45 |
| tjoy | http://mirrors.easynews.com/linux/ubuntu-releases//oneiric/ if anyone else needs it | 04:45 |
| xgt001 | why is apt-get downloading all the package data again and again,...in natty and early it , to download something like 12 mb at first and upon further updating it downloaded only the changed packages.. but oneiric beta1 is downloading everything all over agian | 06:11 |
| tsimpson | xgt001: because you're on a development release and things change often | 06:14 |
| xgt001 | tsimpson: ok so will the apt keep downloading all the package info all over again unless it becomes a release? | 06:15 |
| tsimpson | no, apt still only downloads the packages that have changed | 06:15 |
| tsimpson | it just so happens that everything changes a lot during development | 06:15 |
| xgt001 | tsimpson: not exactly... here i tried twice and it downloaded 22 mb every time despite packages havent changed....is it a bug that i should report? | 06:18 |
| tsimpson | how do you know packages haven't changed? are they the same version? | 06:18 |
| sjanssen | in Ubuntu 11.04, I used Nautilus strictly for the automounter, I don't run a desktop environment. I used "nautilus -n --no-desktop", and this worked properly: no icons on the desktop, no nautilus window, and automounting worked | 06:19 |
| xgt001 | tsimpson: yes... they are the same | 06:19 |
| sjanssen | in 11.10, "nautilus -n --no-desktop" outputs "Initializing nautilus-gdu extension", pauses for 5 seconds, then prints "Shutting down nautilus-gdu extension" | 06:19 |
| sjanssen | what's up with that? Is it part of Ubuntu-specific desktop integration stuff? I don't want to go bugging the Gnome people if it's Ubuntu-specific | 06:20 |
| tsimpson | xgt001: then you probably should report a bug, but I don't see how apt would download exactly the same packages more than once | 06:20 |
| xgt001 | tsimpson: not exactly the packages... i mean the package lists ... that is when we do apt-get update | 06:21 |
| tsimpson | xgt001: well the package lists change often | 06:21 |
| tsimpson | new packages, new versions, new descriptions, new translations, removed packages etc | 06:22 |
| xgt001 | btw how to install i386 apps in amd64 in 11.10... i heard there is better support for i386 apps in 11.10 now for amd64 | 06:23 |
| tsimpson | I don't know, I run 386 | 06:23 |
| xgt001 | ok folks, i want to triple boot oneiric, maverick and win7, currently i have win7 and oneiric installed in seperate partitions.. i have seperate / and /home partitions, along with a seperate swap... should i resize home partition to install maverick? | 06:25 |
| Peter_Bilt | what compiler uses ubuntu kernl? | 08:24 |
| rww | Peter_Bilt: GCC | 08:25 |
| Peter_Bilt | lol | 08:26 |
| Peter_Bilt | know its gcc but the version used to compile | 08:27 |
| rww | should have said that, then :P | 08:27 |
| rww | cat /proc/version | 08:27 |
| Peter_Bilt | its 4.6.1 ok | 08:31 |
| Peter_Bilt | i got strange errors | 08:32 |
| rohdef | after I upgraded grub forgot about one of my Windows partitions, and now I can only access the recovery partition, and not the one with the working windows on | 09:23 |
| rohdef | how can I reconfigure grub, so I once again get access to my working windows | 09:23 |
| justinas | Good morning! | 09:43 |
| justinas | Synaptic autentification dialog does not get the focus in Oneiric. | 09:43 |
| justinas | In fact, I managed to type in my password in an entirely different application when Synaptic started. | 09:43 |
| justinas | It really gets irksome. | 09:43 |
| justinas | I suppose the expected behaviour is that the Synapic authentification dialog blocks all the input to any other application while it runs. | 09:47 |
| Peter_Bilt | there is no xorg.conf | 10:02 |
| Peter_Bilt | i got a new pc with dandy birds, and a fatality motherboard from asrock z68 something 3, i cant see a xorg.conf | 10:20 |
| iceroot | how to remove "ubuntu-desktop" complete on 11.10? is there something else then "sudo apt-get remove --purge" and put there every package from ubuntu-desktop? | 10:29 |
| bullgard4 | [seahorse] Passwords and Encrption Keys > tab "Passwords" > entry "Name=Passwords:default": What does mean here »default« (in contrast to »login«)? | 10:56 |
| bullgard4 | iceroot: I'm afraid not. | 10:56 |
| bullgard4 | Peter_Bilt: There is no xorg.conf by default. | 10:58 |
| bullgard4 | justinas: With me, Synaptic autentification dialog does get the focus in Oneiric. -- File an error report in Launchpad. | 11:01 |
| bullgard4 | +h | 11:01 |
| Peter_Bilt | bulldarg, so how should i make my hdmi2 work? | 11:07 |
| macer1 | Peter_Bilt, what problem do you have? | 11:09 |
| justinas | bullgard4: I am using Gnome classic mode, not that unity crap. | 11:14 |
| justinas | Probably that's the problem. | 11:15 |
| bullgard4 | justinas: Even in this case you should report this error to Launchpad. | 11:16 |
| tjoy | how can i force apt to prefer one repository over another even if the software is older? | 11:17 |
| tjoy | for the same package | 11:17 |
| iceroot | bullgard4: ok thank you | 11:18 |
| bullgard4 | Peter_Bilt: You can create your own xorg.conf if it does not exist. I only said that xorg.conf does not exist any longer by default. | 11:24 |
| rigved | is thunderbird able to sync contacts from ubuntu one? | 11:27 |
| justinas | bullgard4: I would gladly do that if Launchpad did not require me to register there! | 11:36 |
| justinas | And I'd sooner change then distribution than register in some site. | 11:36 |
| justinas | s/then/the/g | 11:36 |
| rigved | in thunderbird, i cannot find a way to sync my ubuntu one contacts. in the ubuntu one control panel, i can see "Enable evolution-couchdb plugin". but i'm using thunderbird, not evolution. so how do i sync my ubuntu one contacts with thunderbird? can anyone help? | 11:39 |
| macer1 | rigved, maybe it is not implemented | 11:42 |
| rigved | macer1: i was just now googling for this. it seems that there an extension, but it is still experimental. | 11:43 |
| rigved | in thunderbird, i can create a new network-based calendar, but it is not the same as contacts-sync, afaik. | 11:44 |
| rigved | sorry, my mistake. calendar and contacts are two different things! | 11:46 |
| BluesKaj | hey all | 11:46 |
| Peter_Bilt | i am sadly i can't see my fanrpm | 11:55 |
| alkisg | I'm running `apport-bug linux` in Oneiric beta 1 live CD, and it tells me that it cannot report the bug because it's not a genuine Ubuntu package...??? | 12:07 |
| winut | Howdy BluesKaj! any luck with muon yet? | 12:10 |
| rigved | alkisg: there is no package called linux. do you want to collect information against the linux kernel? | 12:11 |
| alkisg | rigved: yes, and the apport-bug manpage states that "linux" is special-cased just for that | 12:12 |
| alkisg | As a special case, to report a bug against the Linux kernel, you do not need to use the full package name (such as linux-image-2.6.28-4-generic); you can just use | 12:12 |
| alkisg | apport-bug linux | 12:12 |
| jtaylor | are you using the stock linux kernel? | 12:12 |
| alkisg | The one that comes with the oneiric beta live cd | 12:13 |
| alkisg | So I guess yes, not the vanilla one, but the stock ubuntu one | 12:13 |
| alkisg | It might have been superseeded in the archives since beta1 was released (3.0.0-9) | 12:14 |
| rigved | alkisg: what happens when you try to use apport against the full package name? use uname -r to get the version number. | 12:14 |
| alkisg | rigved: exactly the same error message is displayed | 12:15 |
| alkisg | (apport-bug linux-image-3.0.0-9-generic) | 12:16 |
| rigved | alkisg: i just now tried the command: apport-bug linux; and it worked. maybe the fact that you are using a LiveCD (no actual installed package) is causing the problem, but not sure about this. | 12:19 |
| alkisg | Thank you rigved | 12:20 |
| BluesKaj | no updates today ? | 12:57 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: There are apile waiting here | 13:16 |
| BluesKaj | penguin42, how long since you updated ? | 13:19 |
| penguin42 | BluesKaj: I did an update yesterday, actually on <--- machine it said no updates, but I hit check and it found some, so I think they probably landed in the last hour or so | 13:20 |
| BluesKaj | ok , I just had one , os-prober ...was afraid I acquired the same problem of seeming blocked updates/upgrades that some others have encountered | 13:23 |
| ernstp | Anyone elses Firefox crashing all the time? | 13:24 |
| ernstp | Even in safe-mode | 13:24 |
| * penguin42 mostly uses chrome, but firefox seems ok for the 1 or 2 pages I use it for | 13:25 | |
| ernstp | crashes on gmail for example | 13:32 |
| BluesKaj | whoa , pc just crashed | 13:32 |
| BluesKaj | as if i hit actrl+al+delete | 13:33 |
| penguin42 | not good | 13:33 |
| BluesKaj | ernstp, altho FF seems ok here | 13:33 |
| ernstp | Signaturelibgobject-2.0.so.0.2990.0@0x11caa | 13:34 |
| ernstp | on the crashes | 13:35 |
| ernstp | so maybe not firefox related.. | 13:35 |
| BluesKaj | I didn't have FF running at the time | 13:36 |
| winut | any idea why phonon backend vlc wont work with amarok on kubuntu 11.10? thanks (causes it to crash immediately) | 13:52 |
| Peter_Bilt | i want my fancontrol back | 13:54 |
| Peter_Bilt | i cant' see rpm | 13:54 |
| winut | did you lose this feature in a kernel update? | 13:55 |
| Peter_Bilt | no | 13:55 |
| winut | what is your os? | 13:55 |
| Peter_Bilt | 10.10 | 13:55 |
| Peter_Bilt | and i got a asrock fatality | 13:55 |
| winut | when/how did you lose it? | 13:55 |
| Peter_Bilt | on toilet | 13:55 |
| winut | if you lose it on the toilet, that fine as its in private! lol | 13:56 |
| Peter_Bilt | no clue | 13:57 |
| Peter_Bilt | i think its a sensors issue | 13:57 |
| Peter_Bilt | let me check lm-sensors version | 13:57 |
| Peter_Bilt | sensors version 3.3.0 with libsensors version 3.3.0 | 13:57 |
| winut | so you've had it working before on 10.10? | 13:58 |
| Peter_Bilt | those module init tools aren't working on z68 | 14:09 |
| nperry | Where are auto-start application list kept now? | 14:19 |
| TheBuntu | Does Nvidia drivers work yet in 11.10 | 14:28 |
| ernstp | nperry, the utility menu in the top right corner has startup applications | 14:29 |
| blostoks1 | guys i just installed ubuntu+1, and i was wondering how i could disable compiz | 14:29 |
| blostoks1 | sorry closed my connection | 14:30 |
| blostoks1 | anybody any idea | 14:31 |
| TheBuntu | if i dident want compiz i would unstall it | 14:32 |
| nperry | ernstp: I might be being blind, cant see it | 14:32 |
| nperry | oh now i can | 14:32 |
| nperry | I was being blind | 14:32 |
| TheBuntu | In 11.10 does Nvidia work yet | 14:33 |
| BluesKaj | TheBuntu, nvidia-current driver is working fine here | 14:33 |
| TheBuntu | was just woundering sence in alpha it dident | 14:34 |
| BluesKaj | which nvidia card , TheBuntu ? | 14:34 |
| blostoks1 | guys how do i disable compiz | 14:35 |
| TheBuntu | 8400GS | 14:35 |
| charlie-tca | compiz is required by unity desktop. Disabling it means it can't run the Ubuntu session | 14:36 |
| IdleOne | blostoks1: Unity requires compiz to run | 14:36 |
| IdleOne | blostoks1: what is your end goal? | 14:36 |
| BluesKaj | heh TheBuntu that's the same card I have , have you installed the recommended driver in admin>additional drivers? | 14:37 |
| blostoks1 | well i am installing ubuntu on this old eeepc 901 for my seven year old son, but its a bit slow IdleOne so i was wondering if i could disale it | 14:37 |
| IdleOne | blostoks1: hmm perhaps try Lubuntu if it has low specs | 14:38 |
| blostoks1 | besides that i get an error when i start ubuntu, that some programs has experienced some problem | 14:38 |
| TheBuntu | BluesKaj: still on 11.04.. thats why i was asking if nvidia worked yet befor i upgraded | 14:38 |
| blostoks1 | is that a known problem IdleOne | 14:38 |
| IdleOne | blostoks1: that is expected with a beta version | 14:39 |
| blostoks1 | lol, oke | 14:39 |
| IdleOne | errors are expected I mean | 14:39 |
| blostoks1 | yeah i know, | 14:39 |
| blostoks1 | last question how doi i add programs to the left sidebar | 14:39 |
| IdleOne | run the app and then right click on the icon > keep in launcher | 14:40 |
| blostoks1 | kee and in the same way i could remove apps i suppose | 14:41 |
| BluesKaj | TheBuntu, I'm not on unity or any other gnome desktops ,, i run KDE and i don't need compiz , so your situation will be differnt altho with the 8400gs , you shouldn't have any problems | 14:41 |
| TheBuntu | BluesKaj: im kde as well | 14:42 |
| blostoks1 | thanks IdleOne :) btw is the ubuntu software center already working | 14:43 |
| blostoks1 | because i tried to install vlc through it but it did not install | 14:43 |
| thoeger | Hi folks, still have the problem that I seem to only get a Unity2D session no matter what entry I chooese in LightDM and same thing in GDM. Any suggestions as to how I can troubleshoot? | 14:45 |
| BluesKaj | TheBuntu, then you should be fine , look in the kmenu>apps>settings>additional drivers for the recommended driver , the 280.13 is also recommended on 11,04 | 14:45 |
| TheBuntu | i know that.... im upgradeing to 11.10 right now..... i was just checking to to if the driver worked yet.... sence it dident in 11.10 alpha stage | 14:47 |
| TheBuntu | 270 is 11.04 | 14:48 |
| BluesKaj | TheBuntu, 280.13 is also quite stable on 11.10 , tho you may need to use nomodeset in /etc/default/grub "quiet splash " | 14:49 |
| IdleOne | blostoks1: no clue. I never use it. | 14:49 |
| BluesKaj | TheBuntu, I'm runniung 280 on my other kubuntu pc with 11.04 ...it has a 7600gt graphics | 14:50 |
| TheBuntu | oh ok..... i installed 11.04 yesterday and it gave me 270 | 14:51 |
| BluesKaj | that's fine TheBuntu , if it runs ok no need to upgrade . | 14:53 |
| don-i | hey i got some 11.10 problems | 14:57 |
| blostoks1 | like what don-i | 14:57 |
| don-i | i upgrade from 11.04 and it worked, but it was slow and sluggish, i think i broke it before i even upgraded by installing gnome 3 | 14:57 |
| don-i | so i did a clean install and everything was good (meaning no errors during the install process) | 14:58 |
| don-i | now ubuntu wont boot | 14:58 |
| blostoks1 | yeah that is a problem | 14:58 |
| macer1 | don-i, uefi? bios? | 14:58 |
| don-i | i can get to grub, and if wait for the grub timeout, it chooses the default option, the screen goes black and i just have a flashing cursor | 14:58 |
| blostoks1 | well i am a archlinux user myself, only installing ubuntu for my son | 14:58 |
| blostoks1 | but it feels slow a sluggy on this old eeepc 901 | 14:59 |
| blostoks1 | but i like it very much i must say | 14:59 |
| don-i | if i manually choose the option in grub, it spits out stuff on a black screen and stops there | 14:59 |
| don-i | i just wanted gnome 3 | 14:59 |
| don-i | lol | 14:59 |
| don-i | i hated unity | 14:59 |
| don-i | i know they are similar | 14:59 |
| don-i | but gnome 3 has a better feel to it | 14:59 |
| macer1 | unity is better in oneiric, btw | 14:59 |
| don-i | lol | 15:00 |
| don-i | well...id like to get into ubuntu first..really at this point anything would be good | 15:00 |
| don-i | when i go into recovery, same thing, spits out some stuff on a black screen and hangs there | 15:00 |
| blostoks1 | yeah, well for me the compiz is a problem on this old system | 15:01 |
| blostoks1 | for example i started ubuntu software center, and now it wont close and does not work | 15:01 |
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| don-i | guess its still pretty beta | 15:02 |
| don-i | lol | 15:02 |
| penguin42 | yofel_: On your kubuntu install is the shutdown button still there on 'leave'? It's gone for me - just shows sleep and hibernate on the bottom half of the menu | 15:03 |
| blostoks1 | does kununtu allso has ubuntu software center | 15:03 |
| penguin42 | it seems to have a Muon software centre instead | 15:04 |
| don-i | oh ok got it | 15:07 |
| don-i | had to add to my grub file acpi=off | 15:07 |
| blostoks1 | kee thanks penguin42 | 15:10 |
| thoeger | So, when I try to do "compiz --replace" in a terminal, I get the following output: "Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0". - three times. | 15:16 |
| penguin42 | thoeger: Ah, you have a graphics driver problem | 15:20 |
| yofel_ | penguin42: still there, but not updated in 2 days (got home from vacation yesterday) | 15:27 |
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| penguin42 | yofel: Thanks | 15:31 |
| penguin42 | reported it as bug 853294 | 15:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 853294 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "[Oneiric] Leave menu is missing shutdown" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/853294 | 15:37 |
| chris123 | greets | 15:56 |
| chris123 | Somehow the file extension association system got broken in my install of 11.10 Every time I try to open a file in the file manger it launches VLC player. Where do I reset the file extensions and associated programs. Many thanks | 15:57 |
| glebihan | chris123, deleting ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list should fix this, you may have to log out and back in for changes to take effect | 16:01 |
| chris123 | OK let me give that a try...logging out would be a good thing...:) | 16:02 |
| winut_ | chris, had the same problem! lol | 16:08 |
| winut_ | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=936044 | 16:10 |
| winut_ | oh, he's not back yet! doh | 16:11 |
| chris123 | Thanks guys that did the trick | 16:11 |
| chris123 | much appreciated....nice work on 11.10 ..:) | 16:12 |
| chris123 | ciao | 16:12 |
| Peter_Bilt | arkanoid the revenge of doh! | 16:23 |
| Peter_Bilt | re there any proprietary drivers for sandy? | 17:00 |
| Peter_Bilt | someone wrote the sandy bridge need 30 percent more power on oneric compared to natty | 17:02 |
| james296 | has anyone else here noticed under System Settings there are 2 Ubuntu One apps in there? | 17:16 |
| james296 | anyone? | 17:18 |
| macer1 | yes | 17:18 |
| macer1 | a bug | 17:18 |
| james296 | why is that? Is there any way to remove the other? | 17:19 |
| macer1 | i was looking to fix this, but i don't know where to look | 17:19 |
| james296 | has it already been noted? | 17:19 |
| jbicha | yes, bug 838778 | 17:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 838778 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu Oneiric) "After installing Ubuntu One, there are 2 Ubuntu One launchers in System Settings" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/838778 | 17:19 |
| james296 | also, is there a way to stick with Firefox 6 stable on here instead of Firefox 7? | 17:20 |
| james296 | easily? | 17:20 |
| macer1 | firefox 7 is here because it will be stable before releasing 11.10 ;) | 17:20 |
| james296 | will it really? damn that will be quick | 17:21 |
| jbicha | james296: downgrades aren't really supported | 17:21 |
| jbicha | james296: https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar | 17:21 |
| james296 | it looks like theres a fix in that link you posted to me jbicha | 17:22 |
| jbicha | Firefox 6 will have known security vulnerabilities by next week so it's not a good idea just for that | 17:22 |
| jbicha | yes, the Ubuntu One issue will be fixed whenever they get around to pushing the update | 17:22 |
| james296 | I dont know how to apply the fix though | 17:23 |
| jbicha | I wouldn't worry about it, it will definitely be fixed before release | 17:23 |
| james296 | but I want it fixed now, lol | 17:24 |
| james296 | also, is it a bug that you cant view view purchased apps in the software center? | 17:24 |
| james296 | the reason why I wanted to go back to Firefox 6 is because I hate that stupid feedback button being in the way | 17:25 |
| james296 | nevermind | 17:26 |
| james296 | removed it | 17:26 |
| james296 | lol | 17:26 |
| gabspeck | hello everyone | 17:38 |
| gabspeck | yesterday i set up an external monitor for use with my laptop | 17:38 |
| gabspeck | after restarting, whenever i plug my external monitor, both the laptop display and the external monitor get no image! | 17:38 |
| penguin42 | sounds like a display driver bug - what video hardware do you have? | 17:39 |
| gabspeck | it's an nvidia | 17:41 |
| gabspeck | i'm currently using the nouveau driver | 17:41 |
| gabspeck | until yesterday it worked... i plugged the external display and went to the 'displays' settings applet, and configured it to disable the laptop's display and set the external device as the main monitor | 17:42 |
| synackfin | does anyone else have trouble booting 11.10 server ? | 18:13 |
| synackfin | it gets to init-bottom, then after a long while it spams hundreds of "mknod: permission-denied filesystem is read-only" errors, and since /dev is broken, it just hangs after that point | 18:14 |
| synackfin | I'm runing 11.10 server on a raid+lvm setup | 18:14 |
| synackfin | it seems as if there's a missing 'mount -o rw /' somewhere | 18:15 |
| ikonia | synackfin: what type of raid | 18:15 |
| synackfin | raid1 on classic <2TB msdos partitions | 18:16 |
| ikonia | hardware raid, motherboard raid, or software raid ? | 18:16 |
| synackfin | software raid, mdadm | 18:16 |
| ikonia | synackfin: ok, so my advice is to strip it back with 3 painful, but reasonable tests | 18:16 |
| ikonia | synackfin: 1.)install on 1 disk, no lvm | 18:17 |
| ikonia | synackfin: 2.) install on 2 disks mdadm mirrored, but no lvm | 18:17 |
| ikonia | see if any of those trigger it | 18:17 |
| ikonia | 3.) install on 1 disk no mirror, with lvm | 18:17 |
| ikonia | then we can work forward | 18:17 |
| synackfin | ikonia: the "hard" part of lvm+raid is done since grub was able to boot the kernel, and the initramfs does see my partitions if I do mount -t udev devfs /dev | 18:19 |
| synackfin | so it seems that raid+lvm initialized fine and passed through grub+kernel+early stage of initramfs | 18:19 |
| synackfin | is there a way to capture the errors? The hundreds of "mknod: permission denied - filesystem is readonly" errors erase the more 'useful' errors printing to the monitor | 18:22 |
| synackfin | the output doesn't seem buffered; pgup / shft-pgup don't let me scroll up | 18:22 |
| synackfin | also the display is set to 640x480, which means I can only see 40 lines of text | 18:23 |
| synackfin | also, I was trying the nightly build; I'm going to retry using beta1 to see if that helps | 18:25 |
| synackfin | ikonia: oh, and the installer ought to check if there's enough free space for grub before doing the entire install. The installer errored out at the -very- last stage (installing grub) because I didn't reserve 8MB of free space preceding the first partition | 18:32 |
| synackfin | I redid the partitions and it succeeded once I left room for grub | 18:33 |
| bullgard4 | penguin42: Launchpad bug #852469 | 18:42 |
| synackfin | ikonia: 1) fine, 2+3) permission denied errors | 18:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 852469 in pm-utils (Ubuntu) "GNOME 3 does not show a "Suspend" button" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852469 | 18:43 |
| synackfin | is there any way to step-through the initramfs line by line? | 18:46 |
| synackfin | I want to see exactly what it's executing and the warnings/errors each line produces | 18:46 |
| synackfin | it issues a lot of mount/mknod/chroot commands and I want to sanity check them | 18:47 |
| ikonia | synackfin very interesting | 18:47 |
| ikonia | synackfin: I don't see it as an init ram fs error | 18:47 |
| ikonia | synackfin: what happens if you boot into the recovery shell | 18:47 |
| synackfin | ikonia: isn't it an initramfs error if '/' remains readonly ? | 18:48 |
| ikonia | I don't believe so at this time, | 18:48 |
| synackfin | ikonia: at the very least, initramfs should error if it's unable to remount '/' as rw | 18:49 |
| synackfin | ikonia: otherwise it just goes on to generate hundreds of other errors | 18:49 |
| ikonia | I don't believe initramfs is a problem | 18:49 |
| penguin42 | synackfin: You say / is ro - but otherwise started up ok? | 18:49 |
| synackfin | penguin42: no, the mknod failed on /dev and so mingetty can't get a /dev/pts/tty and a host of other issues due to /dev/ being mostly empty | 18:50 |
| penguin42 | synackfin: Any idea what the very first error you see is ? | 18:51 |
| synackfin | penguin42: that's what I'm trying to figure out; the hundreds of mknod permission denied errors scrolled away anything useful | 18:51 |
| synackfin | penguin42: if I can step through the initramfs I can at least see what the 1st error is | 18:52 |
| penguin42 | synackfin: I'd boot off a rescue cd/thumb and fsck the rootfs | 18:52 |
| synackfin | penguin42: the rootfs is fine; I can chroot from a livecd and it works nicely | 18:52 |
| penguin42 | synackfin: Huh, weird | 18:53 |
| synackfin | penguin42: chroot'ing into oneiric avoids oneiric's initramfs | 18:53 |
| penguin42 | synackfin: Yeh, it's just that reasons for staying ro are a bit weird, normally things like a corrupt fs will cause the kernel to switch it to ro | 18:54 |
| synackfin | penguin42: I can manually make it rw by doing mount -t udev devfs /dev && mount -o rw / | 18:54 |
| penguin42 | synackfin: Anything in dmesg ? | 18:55 |
| synackfin | penguin42: I'll check soon.. trying beta1 (was doing nightly build) | 18:55 |
| synackfin | penguin42: but ideally, I'd like it to drop me a shell on the 1st error instead of continuing | 18:57 |
| synackfin | penguin42: that would both let me see exactly what the root cause is, and be able to intervene | 18:58 |
| penguin42 | nod | 19:00 |
| synackfin | penguin42: I'm just puzzled because I'm able to manually remount '/' as rw | 19:00 |
| synackfin | penguin42: do you know of any "step-through" option? | 19:01 |
| penguin42 | nod, you could try doing the mknod | 19:01 |
| penguin42 | anyway, got to go | 19:01 |
| synackfin | penguin42: instead of mknod, I just did `mount -t udev devtmpfs /dev` and that had everything I needed | 19:01 |
| synackfin | penguin42: it could be that initramfs for some reason forgot to mount /dev and all those mknod permission denied errors were due to that | 19:02 |
| synackfin | unless /dev is mounted, any mknod attempt would operate on the root partition '/', and that would result in all the permission-denied errors since it problem remounts '/' as rw much later | 19:04 |
| synackfin | it probably* remounts | 19:04 |
| synackfin | it might be the parallel-init that oneiric does | 19:10 |
| mongy | -offtopic | 19:22 |
| mongy | oops | 19:22 |
| vooze | hey guys, whats the default font in ubuntu with gnome shell? | 19:52 |
| vooze | you can see in in gnome-tweak-tool under Fonts | 19:52 |
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| vooze | Sorry for quit before, did anything answer? | 20:28 |
| vooze | hey guys, whats the default font in ubuntu with gnome shell? you can see in gnome-tweak-tool | 20:28 |
| FernandoMiguel | brOas | 21:50 |
| utusan | how can I make the lower-right corner or any corner act like the upper-left corner in gnome-shell? kinda hard when you have a large screen :) | 22:10 |
| utusan | or is there a short-cut key? | 22:11 |
| tomodachi | utusan: if you have a multi touch touchpad (on a laptop it's all four fingers) | 22:13 |
| utusan | on a desktop? | 22:13 |
| utusan | tomodachi, ^^ | 22:14 |
| Chotaz | Hello everyone | 22:56 |
| Chotaz | Is the Oneiric Beta 1 stable for everyday computing needs? | 22:57 |
| funkyHat | ugh. apt is totally failing to resolve dependencies for upgrding to oneiric (after update-manager failed to do it too and dropped out without reverting) | 23:17 |
| hacked_kernel | GDM crashes, i'm using KDM only, and also I can't start Unity 3D or Gnome-Shell, they all crashes | 23:21 |
| hacked_kernel | I installed Ubuntu-desktop and gnome-shell on kubuntu | 23:21 |
| hacked_kernel | any ideas? | 23:28 |
| synackfin | there's something wrong with the order of the scripts in initramfs -- it isn't properly creating /dev prior to mounting / as rw (causing the remount of / as rw to fail on LVM) | 23:28 |
| synackfin | also, in recovery mode, "remount / as rw and mount all other filesystems" is hanging | 23:40 |
| synackfin | what commands does it run? | 23:40 |
| synackfin | it appears that /var/mapper/* is not properly being initialized | 23:46 |
| synackfin | has anyone else tried booting with LVM? | 23:46 |
| necreo | banshee still freezes my system when launching it | 23:48 |
| necreo | anyone else? any fix? | 23:48 |
| necreo | even moving ~/.config/banshee-1, thus resetting the configuration does nothing | 23:52 |
| necreo | still freezes up here | 23:52 |
| necreo | does this happen to anyone else | 23:52 |
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