[01:12] <[Relic]> couldn't get the boot cd to load the try it for ubuntu, but the same mouse problem was there so that might have been it
[15:01] <Laibsch1> what package is likely responsible if a QT application cannot be maximized on a netbook?
[15:02] <macer1> compiz|metacity or libqt4
[15:03] <Laibsch> thanks. how do I find out which one of the three?
[15:03] <Laibsch> I have several programs that don't maximize and I suspect that the minimum of at least one of the dimensions being greater than what's available is the cause of the failure to maximize
[15:04] <macer1> do you use compiz?
[15:09] <Exodus> Laibsch, you can program a Qt app's maximum size
[15:09] <Exodus> Laibsch, what applications do you speak of?
[15:11] <Laibsch> I'm not sure I use compiz.  I think I don't (ps faux|grep -i compiz returns nothing).  One of the affected programs is twinkle -> bug 241632
[15:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 241632 in twinkle (Ubuntu) "Twinkle main window too large for display (heat: 4)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/241632
[15:11] <Laibsch> subdownloader is another (I'd have to check if that one is using QT or GTK)
[15:12] <Laibsch> those are the two I now remember off the top of my head
[15:16] <Laibsch> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=256769 seems similar and would confirm my suspicion
[15:16] <ubot4> KDE bug 256769 in general "Cannot maximize kMyMoney4 on netbook with Status bar and/or Tool bar enabled" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
[15:16] <Laibsch> KDE bug 256769
[15:17] <Laibsch> KDE bug 256768
[15:17] <ubot4> KDE bug 256768 in general "Akregator crashed wher add RSS feed" [Crash,Resolved: duplicate] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=256768
[15:17] <Laibsch> nifty! ;-)
[15:17] <Laibsch> macer1, Exodus: see answer to your questions above
[15:18] <macer1> oh sorry, message does not showed me if you does not use my nick name :P
[15:19] <macer1> I think it is just Qt bug
[15:19] <Laibsch> I think it's probably a program bug, using up too much space, greater than 1024*600
[15:19] <Laibsch> and then the window cannot be maximized
[15:19] <Laibsch> that's my current suspicion
[15:21] <macer1> I think it is best to just report a bug to program it affects, and developers will look or it affects qt, kwin, metacity or something else.
[15:21] <macer1> Wait, you are using KDE?
[15:24] <Laibsch> nope
[15:24] <Laibsch> I'm using UNE which is based off gnome
[15:24] <macer1> There is no UNE now...are you using lucid?
[15:25] <Laibsch> and these programs are little used so getting as much information as possible (patch would be nice) is going to be crucial, I think
[15:25] <Laibsch> yes, lucid
[15:25] <Laibsch> and lucid is still very much supported
[15:25] <Laibsch> what I've seen of unity sucks, but that's offT ;)
[15:27] <macer1> Maybe it is because of old packages in lts...
[15:27] <macer1> like old qt, old kde, old everything :P
[15:29] <Laibsch> feel free to test in oneiric or later is my usual answer ;-)  If it's still the same bug, good, if the bug has been fixed in the meantime, good as well
[15:36] <iceroot> hi
[15:37] <Exodus> Laibsch, I've gotten those errors myself. There are a lot of applications that have their minimum size too big for netbooks.
[15:37] <Laibsch> Exodus: I think those are valid bug reports
[15:38] <iceroot> if i want to create a debdiff i must write a changelog-entry. all the websites say to use my ubuntu-maintainer-address. i am no maintainer and dont have a ubuntu-address. is it common to use my normal name + mailadress for the debdiff? or do only maintainer posts debdiff to launchpad?
[15:38] <Exodus> Laibsch, they are, although upstream should be informed.
[15:38] <Laibsch> iceroot: your normal address is fine
[15:39] <iceroot> on debian i saw something like * Non_maintainer Upload \n *fixes foobar
[15:39] <iceroot> Laibsch: ok
[15:39] <Laibsch> iceroot: NMU is different, don't worry about that
[15:39] <Laibsch> Exodus: I fully agree.  Did you make a report for those apps?
[15:40] <iceroot> Laibsch: ok, thank you, thenn i will create a debdiff and post it
[15:40] <Laibsch> iceroot: bug #?  I'd like to make sure the next steps proceed smoothly
[15:41] <iceroot> Laibsch: let me search it
[15:41] <Exodus> Laibsch, I don't actually have a netbook, it was in a global jam for a previous year. I believe the netbook owner reported it. Not sure though.
[15:41] <iceroot> Laibsch: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kwalletcli/+bug/802274
[15:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 802274 in kwalletcli (Ubuntu) "Security issue in kwalletcli_getpin(1): tty I/O now properly disables echoing input when asking for a passphrase is not fixed (affects: 1) (heat: 128)" [Low,Confirmed]
[15:42] <Laibsch> iceroot: let me know when you have attached the debdiff.
[15:43] <iceroot> the next problem is i only have 11.10 but the bug is for 11.04, so i guess i have to use a 11.04 environment to build the patch correctly
[15:43] <iceroot> so build the deb correcty
[15:43] <iceroot> s/so/to ...
[15:43] <Laibsch> iceroot: pbuilder-dist and pull-lp-source are commands you want to look into
[15:44] <Laibsch> "pbuilder-dist maverick create"
[15:44] <Laibsch> "pull-lp-source $blahpackage maverick"
[15:44] <iceroot> natty :)
[15:44] <Laibsch> whatever
[15:44] <Laibsch> I'm sure you get the picture :-p
[15:45] <iceroot> of course :) thank you
[15:45] <Laibsch> I'm a VERY slow adopter
[15:45] <Laibsch> I experience too many bugs already, I don't always need the latest &greatest new bugs :-p
[15:46] <iceroot> because of the bugs i am using 11.10 because its fun for me to open bugs and when possible to write patches which is more often in unstable then in stable :)
[15:56] <Laibsch> does 1024*600 resolution have a name?
[15:58] <Exodus> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphic_display_resolutions
[15:58] <trinikrono> Exodus: !
[15:58] <Laibsch> thanks, just found it ;-)
[15:58] <Exodus> WSVGA
[15:58] <Laibsch> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vector_Video_Standards2.svg
[15:58] <Exodus> trinikrono, hey, I updated the bugs you submitted :D
[15:58] <trinikrono> bug 851553 ?
[15:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 851553 in checkgmail (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "checkgmail does not login: Unable to find gmail_ik (affects: 1) (heat: 272)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/851553
[15:59] <Exodus> trinikrono, yes, confirmed it at least
[16:00] <trinikrono> https://launchpad.net/bugs/851556
[16:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 851556 in checkgmail (Ubuntu) "Checkgmail does not work with unity panel (affects: 1) (heat: 270)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[16:00] <trinikrono> this one also Exodus i wonder how come i did not get any emails as yet
[16:00] <Exodus> Did that one too
[16:00] <trinikrono> you see i was able to get it running in unity :D
[16:00] <Exodus> No clue, maybe cause I did it like an hour ago?
[16:01] <trinikrono> with the gconf thing
[16:01] <trinikrono> i now came back in lucid i was in oneiric to do the testing
[16:01] <Exodus> trinikrono, yeah, it actually runs, but it doesn't show for normal users :P
[16:01] <Exodus> dconf hacking
[16:02] <Laibsch> Exodus: just stumbled back on another maximize-bug: sqliteman bug 850903
[16:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 850903 in sqliteman (Ubuntu) "window doesn't maximize (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850903
[16:06] <macer1> kde bug 1
[16:06] <macer1> (just testing if ubottu can display this)
[16:09] <Laibsch> macer1: yes, it can
[16:09] <Laibsch> at least it worked for me 30 minutes ago
[16:09] <Laibsch> KDE bug 123456
[16:09] <ubot4> KDE bug 123456 in general "amaroK mis-detects some albums as compilations when actually they're just "artist1 featuring artist2"" [Wishlist,Resolved: later] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123456
[16:10] <macer1> kde bug 111111
[16:10] <ubot4> KDE bug 111111 in general "apply to all plots in x-axis tab also applies range settings " [Normal,Resolved: worksforme] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111111
[16:10] <macer1> kde bug 2
[16:10] <Laibsch> hehe, you're try them all now? ;-)
[16:10] <macer1> oh there is no #1 bug :(
[16:10] <Laibsch> +gonna
[16:13] <Laibsch> any objections to setting bug 535398 to opinion?  I'm afraid, that one is wontfix
[16:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 535398 in maximus (Ubuntu) "openoffice find and replace window maximized (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 24)" [Undecided,Opinion] https://launchpad.net/bugs/535398
[16:14] <charlie-tca> Why not invalid? openoffice is not going to fix things, and UNE is a dead project, isn't it?
[16:14] <macer1> so invalid or wontfix :P?
[16:15] <Laibsch> well, I set it to opinion because I think the window should not be maximized
[16:15] <charlie-tca> I don't find much reason to clutter with opinions when it is not going to ever change, anyway.
[16:15] <Laibsch> it's not really invalid, but it works as designed
[16:15] <Laibsch> anyhow, it's closed
[16:16] <Laibsch> UNE is no longer worked on, that's right, but as long as lucid is alive, the packages are also supported
[16:16]  * Laibsch takes LTS seriously
[16:18] <Laibsch> the search and replace window is essentially pretty useless when maximized
[16:19] <Exodus> macer1, there is actually a #1 bug. It was filed by Mark Shuttleworth
[16:19] <Exodus> macer1, it's quite funny.
[16:19] <macer1> Exodus, i know that i was talking about kde bug #1
[17:38] <penguin42> what's the story on Openoffice.org bugs in Lucid? As far as I can tell all the oo.o bugs have just been closed as 'reopen them in libreoffice' - but what about Lucid?
[17:40] <charlie-tca> You would have to ask the person doing it.
[17:40] <charlie-tca> I lost that battle
[17:41]  * penguin42 might ask on bug-control
[17:55] <[Relic]> me thinks I found the mouse problem it also registers as a kbd device
[17:57] <[Relic]> it fails on both ubuntu and kubuntu so which place do I put the bug
[17:58] <penguin42> [Relic]: run ubuntu-bug xorg  I think
[18:08] <[Relic]> that doesn't work
[18:10] <[Relic]> just complains about nvidia drivers and how I should uninstall them, absolutely nothing about input devices in that program at all
[18:11] <penguin42> [Relic]: Try ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-input-evdev
[18:11]  * penguin42 goes to get food
[18:13] <[Relic]> nope, uninstall nvidia drivers to see if they are the problem
[18:39] <penguin42> Oh that's #8!$ annoying
[18:40] <micahg> penguin42: that was Sweetshark
[18:41] <penguin42> sweetshark?
[18:41] <micahg> penguin42: AIUI, it was low/wishlist bugs that would *supposedly* never be fixed in the stable release
[18:41] <penguin42> ah
[18:42] <micahg> penguin42: he works on libreoffice in Ubuntu
[18:42] <penguin42> micahg: Ah ok
[18:43] <penguin42> to be fair the one I was thinking of was marked low (although it is a real real pain in environments when interacting with users of ppt)
[18:43] <micahg> penguin42: if you have a debdiff approved by someone, you can still get fixes in
[18:44] <micahg> s/someone/ubuntu-sru
[18:44] <penguin42> micahg: No, I once looked at the inside of OO.o and ran away screaming
[18:44] <micahg> heh, that's what people say about Mozilla stuff as well :)
[20:27] <[Relic]> so what url to put a new bug in?  the ubuntu-bug thing keeps giving bad or stupid results
[20:28] <dtchen> [Relic]: would you rephrase the question, please? I'm missing context.
[20:29] <Laibsch> anybody have a script to mass-close bugs in a certain project?
[20:29] <[Relic]> direct URL for the ubuntu bug tracker currently used
[20:29] <Exodus> Laibsch, that is quite delicate isn't it?
[20:30] <Laibsch> not if it concerns bugs that definitely only affect jaunty ;-)
[20:30] <Exodus> [Relic], are you referring to the ubuntu-bug app opening instead of a web page?
[20:31] <[Relic]> the ubuntu-bug thing keeps giving bad or stupid results; and therefore is completely useless
[20:31] <charlie-tca> [Relic]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Filing_bugs_at_Launchpad.net
[20:32] <Exodus> [Relic], can you explain these results?
[20:34] <[Relic]> uninstall nvidia drivers to see if they are the problem
[20:35] <[Relic]> which has completely no releavnce to the mouse I would like to get working properly
[20:37] <Exodus> both nvidia configuration and mouse configuration are in the same place
[20:37] <Exodus> The X.org configuration
[20:37] <Exodus> So, they are relevant.
[20:37] <Exodus> [Relic], check out xorg.conf
[20:39] <[Relic]> monitor nvidia device and screen