[01:15] <lostson> weekend!
[22:05] <lostson> I think  I have had enough of the ubuntu-users mailing list i think it is time to ditch my sub to it
[22:17] <Cheesehead> lostson: Really?
[22:17] <Cheesehead> What's in it? I never tried it.
[22:18]  * Cheesehead looks up the ubuntu-users mailing list
[22:19] <Cheesehead> Aieeeeeeeee!  What a train wreck!
[22:19] <Cheesehead> Yeah, just looking at the subject headers for September, I don't want any part of that.
[22:20] <Cheesehead> Thanks, lostson, for keeping me away from there.
[22:23] <lostson> its moslty about 4 people whining and crying saying that everything above 10.04 is useless and you shouldnt use unity
[22:23] <lostson> its just pure crap
[22:25] <Cheesehead> Well, they have a valid point. I liked Linux a lot better back in the old days when I had to compile everything uphill both ways in the snow every day.
[22:25] <Cheesehead> ...which, of course, explains why I use Ubuntu.
[22:25] <lostson> well gentoo is of course still available
[22:26] <Cheesehead> Haters gonna hate. And I'm gonna laugh at them quietly in my corner over here.
[22:26] <lostson> im all for differences of opinion but that list is out of control and no one is taking care of it or moderating it all
[22:27] <lostson> i brought this to jono's attention the other day on G+ but he was more interested in his birthday wish list on amazon than he was responding to anything
[22:29] <lostson> i like ubuntu and enjoy unity alot but more and more i am tempted to switch to something else when dealing with the community surrounding ubuntu well except for y'all of course y'all are great
[22:35] <Cheesehead> The I'm-gonna-broadcast-every-random-thought people do cause a bit of noise!
[22:35] <Cheesehead> Looking over that mialing list, it does seem out of control.
[22:35]  * Cheesehead unfumbles his fingers
[22:36] <lostson> yeah its not pretty
[22:40] <Cheesehead> Brainstorm was the same way for a long time. I'm pleased that I help bring it back under control
[22:41] <Cheesehead> Now it's doing it's original purpose again.
[22:42] <Cheesehead> Who is supposed to moderate that mailing list?
[22:42] <lostson> no idea would have to look it up
[22:44] <Cheesehead> Perhaps they need a leader to step up, take the reins, and steer that runaway back from the cliff
[22:47] <lostson> if you dig deep enough you will see this has been brought up a few times and there is never any response
[22:47] <lostson> the fedora list got this way then they stepped in and cleaned it up
[23:05] <Cheesehead> lostson: Aha.
[23:06] <Cheesehead> ubuntu-users list run by mako at ubuntu.com, brian.murray at ubuntu.com, alan at popey.com, lyz at ubuntu.com, mike.basinger at gmail.com
[23:06] <Cheesehead> Why not ping them on the topic?
[23:06] <Cheesehead> Offer your services as a moderator?
[23:07] <lostson> i wonder why none of them do any moderating
[23:07] <Cheesehead> Well, I see a lot of them flitting about between many projects, so I suspect time may be and issue
[23:07] <lostson> ahh
[23:07] <Cheesehead> Old project, slippeded past, perhaps?
[23:08] <Cheesehead> I doubt you'll get any of them interested in spending more time moderating - on the planet, they always seem interested in the new
[23:08] <Cheesehead> Disclaimer: I have never met them, and so am probablyt quite wrong
[23:08] <lostson> yeah but you never know
[23:08] <lostson> ding dong my pizza is here bbl