[00:00] <nimbiotics> mysphyt: have*
[00:00] <nimbiotics> mysphyt: DID I HAVE to use sudo when issuing ./config & make??
[00:00] <SMJ> there was this gtk program that showed you the space usage of directories... what was its name?
[00:00] <mysphyt> nimbiotics - No, but you may need to do so when you make install.
[00:00] <SMJ> in a pie chart.
[00:00] <Guest27796> exit
[00:01] <nimbiotics> mysphyt: i did try that, with exactly same results
[00:01] <Guest27796> !conec
[00:01] <brokencodes> node.net
[00:02] <complexity> is there any irc rooms that give support about ubuntu video drivers?
[00:02] <mysphyt> Huh.  Sorry, nimbiotics, but I don’t know what to tell you beyond that.
[00:02] <nimbiotics> mysphyt: np :)
[00:02] <bazhang> complexity, here; what card
[00:03] <SMJ> baobab, that's it. thanks so much #ubuntu
[00:03] <Fudge> hi still having trouble finding how to get lan/wifi broadcom working on acer aspire 5560g
[00:04] <Fudge> ubuntu lucid, wasnt erhe some kind of windows driver support one could use also
[00:04] <urlin2u> Fudge, you know what the card is?
[00:04] <complexity> bazhang,Intel 845G PCI Accelerated SVGA
[00:04] <Fudge> from lspci i have info
[00:04] <urlin2u> Fudge, opps broadcom hold on.
[00:05] <Fudge> broadcom 57785 and 4358
[00:05] <ryann> how do i set default permissions to a directory such that the user and group permissions are retained on new file or subdirectory creation?
[00:06] <urlin2u> Fudge, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[00:06] <Fudge> ill read
[00:07] <sjrp> Hey Guys. I'm looking for a good app that can make automatic copies of my documents to my external harddrive. Tried deja dup (running 11.04) but I don't want the files to be archived..
[00:08] <sjrp> Any recommendation?
[00:08] <nimbiotics> I'm trying to install simgear-2.4.0 in ubuntu 11.04, but when i try "make install" I get results show at (http://paste.ubuntu.com/691930/) I  dont know what the messages mean, can someone please help me fix this? TIA!
[00:09] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/53667/fixing-display-issues-on-intel-82845gl-in-natty complexity this may be relevant
[00:09] <FastZ> nimbiotics, should you be running make-install as sudo?
[00:10] <bazhang> nimbiotics, simgear2 is in the natty repos
[00:10] <winstonG> how can i sync ipod touch?
[00:10] <bazhang> winstonG, with banshee or rhythmbox
[00:11] <nimbiotics> FastZ: I did and had the same results, should I have ran configure and make as sudo??
[00:11] <winstonG> bazhang: thanks
[00:11] <nimbiotics> bazhang: repos have v 3.0; i need 2.4
[00:11] <nimbiotics> bazhang: repos have v 2.0; i need 2.4
[00:12] <FastZ> nimbiotics, configure and make usually don't need to be ran as sudo, if i'm not mistaken
[00:12] <bazhang> nimbiotics, why do you need that version?
[00:12] <nimbiotics> bazhang: for FG 2.4
[00:14] <ryann> what is the "s" in directory permissions?
[00:15] <urlin2u> sjrp, rsync and cron. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1436305
[00:15] <deedee> .
[00:16] <deedee> no sound coming out
[00:16] <urlin2u> ! details | deedee
[00:16] <deedee> said choose a device for sound input???
[00:16] <deedee> sound was working before now acting dumb
[00:17] <Loshki> ryann: http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html
[00:17] <sjrp> urlin2u, yea thank you. Saw that in the Ubuntu Wiki.. Tryin Sbackup right know, as it seems to be one of few graphical backupprograms? Anyway, I was able to choose wether to archive the files or not in the option(y).
[00:17] <mamece2> hello, i just installed ubuntu and i would like to know how to disable the session timeout, when i leave my pc after 15 minutes i need to log again and put my password and login
[00:17] <deedee> mameca2
[00:18] <deedee> u got go to screensaver
[00:18] <mamece2> deedee: thx, i was confused with the new unity interface
[00:18] <deedee> and uncheck lock screen  screensaveer is active
[00:19] <episteme_> Yeah unity threw me off too :p
[00:19] <deedee> im usieing classic
[00:19] <deedee> mode
[00:19] <ryann> thanks Loshki.. trying to set umask for use over sftp
[00:19] <episteme_> Deedee: how do you change it to classic?
[00:20] <deedee> when u got log in on the bottom
[00:20] <deedee> said ubuntu classic
[00:20] <sjrp> Anyone tryin Oneiric? Gotta say it's coming together quite nice:)
[00:20] <episteme_> Ah ty. Never really looked at those options
[00:20] <mamece2> deedee: thx!
[00:21] <deedee> mamece2
[00:21] <deedee> u welcome
[00:21] <momo21> greetings, just wondering if youtube-dl is part of the standard repositories, or do I have to enable something specific?
[00:21] <complexity> bazhang, that seems relevant but not much for answers?
[00:23] <deedee> maybe my sound card
[00:23] <deedee> is bad its intergrated..
[00:23] <sjrp> VLC video and sound out of sync, suggestions? Change sounddriver?
[00:23] <thankota> hello
[00:23] <Aszurom> I had that too
[00:23] <Aszurom> sjrp
[00:24] <paulo> aguem me ajude
[00:24] <paulo> não conecto rede sem fio
[00:24] <AlessonZaire> !pt | paulo
[00:24] <urlin2u> momo21, it is in my synaptic Natty.
[00:25] <momo21> thanks urlin2u
[00:25] <sjrp> Aszurom?
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> sjrp: tried other players?
[00:26] <sjrp> ActionParsnip: Yes, but I like VLC for it's simplicity and would like to be able to use it:) And of course, it's fun to solve problems;)
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> sjrp: gnome-mplayer and totem are just as 'simple' as vlc...
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> sjrp: does the issue happen as other users?
[00:27] <Aszurom> sjrp, VLC is out of sync for me as well.  Well, it was but it seems ok now. I changed the preferences>sound>hardware profile selection on the card from Analog Duplex to Analog Stereo and it seems to have corrected it... maybe?
[00:28] <winstonG> banshee cannot see ipod touch. should it? cc: bazhang
[00:28] <Aszurom> where do you choose which driver is being used? Someone else had suggested that I switch drivers as well
[00:28] <sjrp> ActionParsnip, and those players can play all kinds of media that VLC can?
[00:29] <sjrp> Aszurom, will try that right know! Let you know in a se
[00:29] <sjrp> c
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> sjrp: yes, the OS uses a central place for codecs, so anything one can play the others can
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> sjrp: and from that responce, I guess you HAVEN'T tested other players
[00:30] <Aszurom> anything you can play, I can play better! I can play anything better than you!
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> vlc is overrated but new users think its great because of their windows days
[00:31] <Aszurom> why does IRC have to turn into a contest? It doesn't matter why VLC instead of another app.  What matters is "how to fix VLC" not if it's better or not.
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> true but you should test other apps to see if its the system or the app, making a new user also allows you to test with vanilla settings :)
[00:32] <sjrp> ActionParsnip, Yes, I have tested other players. Lately Totem pretty much. But I haven't tested all kinds of different media types on it. But when you mention it, it feels kind of logical that Ubuntu uses a central place for codecs;)
[00:32] <Aszurom> it does seem that mplayer didn't suffer the same lipsync issues :-)
[00:33] <Aszurom> that's how I could tell it was wrong... lips were slightly out of sync with speech
[00:33] <Aszurom> "the Vanilli Effect"
[00:33] <sjrp> ActionParsnip, Because I recall that back in the days when I couldnt pay mp3:s out of the box in ubuntu, I always installed VLC and viola, I could play mp3:s everywhere
[00:34] <sjrp> Aszurom, worked! Thank you
[00:34] <Aszurom> awesome
[00:34] <JoseeAntonioR> Hi! I have a problem with my Ubuntu Email. I have been accepted as an Ubuntu Member on September 15th, and I still cannot use my Email. What happens?
[00:34] <Aszurom> I just stumbled on that randomly
[00:34] <shadowh511> JoseeAntonioR: you can't send or recieve email with that address :P
[00:34] <Aszurom> ActionParsnip, where do you tell the system which audio driver it's using anyway?
[00:34] <ryann> what i am not understanding is even with a umask 077, the permissions of new files are not being set properly
[00:35] <jrib> ryann: can you be more specific?
[00:35] <JoseeAntonioR> shadowh511 I cannot recieve. I've been trying to send and email from account X, which is also supposed to recieve emails from the Ubuntu Email.
[00:35] <quentusrex> Anyone know how to recover what the openldap admin username is after a 11.04 openldap install?
[00:36] <quentusrex> cn=admin,dc=domain,dc=com does not work with the password I set on install.
[00:36] <sjrp> Great, and btw I agree with you. It doesn't really matter why I'd like to use VLC instead of others (with that said, I'm always open for other stuff). The important thing is to get it fixed;)
[00:36] <quentusrex> when domain is replaced with the configured server domain.
[00:37] <JoseeAntonioR> I have a problem with my Ubuntu Email. I have been accepted as an Ubuntu Member on September 15th, and I still cannot use my Email. What happens?
[00:42] <winstonG> my computer cannot see the stuff inside of ipod. is there a way?
[00:42] <sjrp> Okay, Sbackup wasn't what I wanted. Do you know any program that does backups, but stores the files as they are without archiving and stuff. Just basic automatic copying from my internal to my external harddrive..
[00:43] <macer1> JoseeAntonioR, what do you mean by "I cannot use me email" ?
[00:43] <sjrp> No need to restore, just merge the folders when I add new files. So what I'm searching for is basically a program that works like Ubuntu One, but makes the backups to my external drive instead of to the cloud.
[00:43] <JoseeAntonioR> macer1: I cannot recieve emails.
[00:44] <escott_> winstonG, many of the music players like banshee and rhythmbox support ipods
[00:44] <MonkeyDust> sjrp: rsync -options [from ] [to]
[00:44] <escott_> sjrp, rsync
[00:45] <winstonG> escott_: i have both, and amarok. only amarok can see ipod as a device. but cannot see inside
[00:45] <sjrp> Okay, thank you. Will try now
[00:45] <macer1> JoseeAntonioR, your_launchpad_name@ubuntu.com does not work? it should redirect mails, to your main e-mail set in launchpad.
[00:45] <lauratika> is there anyway to check if a ide conector has power via terminal?
[00:45] <MonkeyDust> sjrp: more specifically: rsync -avz from to
[00:46] <JoseeAntonioR> macer1: It doesn't works. Take in consideration that I have been accepted as an Ubuntu Member on September 15th 2011
[00:46] <Angelous-> Can someone direct me to a ubuntu command line iso image file download link?
[00:46] <sjrp> MonkeyDust, okay, seems that there is much information on the Ubuntu wiki.
[00:47] <macer1> JoseeAntonioR, alias updating takes 24 hours. It should work now...hmm...
[00:47] <JoseeAntonioR> macer1: Then, I don't know what is the problem?
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> Aszurom: sudo lshw -C sound
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> Aszurom: look for   driver=
[00:47] <Angelous-> Is this the command line version of ubuntu? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/download
[00:47] <macer1> Angelous-, yes
[00:47] <JoseeAntonioR> Angelous- Yes.
[00:47] <rww> JoseeAntonioR: 1) sometimes it's delayed, 2) if you're testing with a gmail account, gmail is weird and won't show you that it received a message through forward if you sent it from that account
[00:48] <lauratika> anyone
[00:48] <JoseeAntonioR> rww I'm testing with a Hotmail account. In the case that it's delayed, when can I test it again?
[00:48] <lauratika> ??
[00:48] <maheanuu> I have an external USB hd that will not allow me to write to it, It worked normally before and now it tells me that I do not have permission how do I change permissions
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> lauratika: if the drive doesn't have power it won't show in BIOS
[00:49] <macer1> JoseeAntonioR, maybe something from this link will be useful for you :) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEmail
[00:49] <Aszurom> ActionParsnip, isn't there a gui hardware inspector?
[00:49] <JoseeAntonioR> macer1 I am actually reading it.
[00:49] <rww> JoseeAntonioR: give it a few days, then email rt at ubuntu.com if it still isn't working
[00:49] <escott_> Aszurom, depends on what hardware, but the disk utility has a gui for smart status
[00:50] <JoseeAntonioR> rww: Ok, thanks. I'll do that in case it happens.
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> lauratika: sudo fdisk -l      will show all seen drives and partitions
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> Aszurom: lshw-gtk
[00:52] <Aszurom> thanks
[00:52] <Aszurom> man, it's maddening that Gnome seems 1 pixel tolerant on getting a resize arrow to show up on a window edge
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> it just displays the lshw in a pretty gui
[00:53] <soreau> Aszurom: I believe its different for different themes
[00:53] <MonkeyDust> Aszurom: that pixel issue is also why gimp is less accurate than photoshop
[00:53] <Dreamer3> how can i add a user non interactively?
[00:53] <Dreamer3> without the prompts for stuff
[00:54] <klander_> can i install ubuntu inside a virtual machine, in which the virtual machine exposes my real hardware to the OS, and after i install it inside the VM, take the hard drive image and boot into it natively?
[00:54] <Dreamer3> i've read the manpage
[00:54] <Aszurom> how does KDE compare to Gnome these days?
[00:54] <lauratika> thanx... i got this what does /dev/dm-0 means?... http://paste.ubuntu.com/691958/
[00:54] <soreau> klander_: no
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> klander_: no, all the hardware in the virtual system is virtualized
[00:54] <lauratika> ActionParsnip:
[00:54] <klander_> is it difficult from VM's to expose the real systems hardware to the guest OS?
[00:55] <deedee> no sound
[00:55] <lauratika> ActionParsnip: does this means my hd  is there but has not partition table??...
[00:55] <deedee> is coming out
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> klander_: its just how it works
[00:55] <escott_> lauratika, its a device mapper device of some kind
[00:55] <Dreamer3> grrr
[00:55] <Dreamer3> damn this should be easier
[00:55] <deedee> choose a device for sound inputt
[00:55] <lauratika> escott_: which means?
[00:55] <macer1> I want to become ubuntu member. But first I need some opinions. I am good enough? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Macer1 , https://launchpad.net/~macer1
[00:56] <escott_> lauratika, unclear. its very small. do you have anything that is only 2gb?
[00:56] <MonkeyDust> lauratika: i didn't follow, what was your question?
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> lauratika: if fdisk shows a disk with no partition table then iyou are right
[00:56] <rww> macer1: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. Try #ubuntu-offtopic or something.
[00:56] <dev_> klander_, think of a VM, as a truly VIRTUAL Machine, nothing is real, or exposed directly to the guest OS, everything is translated, to prevent collisions from occurring with the host OS, simultaniously attempting to use the same devices...
[00:56] <dev_> or you can leave...
[00:56] <lauratika> escott_: nothing smaller than 2 gb but the swap partition but also is listed there
[00:56] <MonkeyDust> lauratika: type sudo fdisk -l|pastebinit and paste it here
[00:57] <macer1> rww, ok sorry, i will go to ubuntu-offtopic for that
[00:57] <escott_> lauratika, dm is usually used for some kind of hardware raid or bios raid type device
[00:57] <Dreamer3> anyone?
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> Dreamer3: read:  man adduser   maybe
[00:58] <Dreamer3> ActionParsnip: i have
[00:58] <lauratika> MonkeyDust: what pastebinit is for is asking to install?
[00:58] <MonkeyDust> lauratika: go ahead
[00:58] <lauratika> excott_: it's funny cause i dont get what exactly can be listed there
[00:58] <lauratika> no flash memories
[00:58] <lauratika> nothing at all
[00:58] <lauratika> MonkeyDust: yeah, but what is that for?
[00:59] <MonkeyDust> so you can show us the output
[00:59] <brokencodes> lauratika, pastebinit converts output from stdout, to something easier to paste to sites like pastebin, and logshow.org
[00:59] <lauratika> brokencodes: tahnx, intalliing...
[00:59] <escott_> lauratika, you might look through dmesg to see what device mapper is attaching too. or check lsmod maybe that will give some hints on what it is seeing
[00:59] <brokencodes> np
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> Dreamer3: http://linux.die.net/man/8/newusers
[01:00] <lauratika> http://paste.ubuntu.com/691963/
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> Dreamer3: seems there is a different command for batching (weird)
[01:01] <Dreamer3> ActionParsnip: yeah not looking for batching
[01:01] <lauratika> escott_: alot come back with dmesg
[01:02] <escott_> lauratika, try dmesg | grep -C10 dm-0
[01:02] <brokencodes> lauratika, what is the issue you having?
[01:02] <lauratika> escott_: nothing comes back
[01:03] <escott_> brokencodes, devicemapper is attaching to something, but its not clear what
[01:03] <escott_> lauratika, try dmesg | grep -C10 dm
[01:03] <lauratika> im trying to see if ubuntu recognize my second hard drive
[01:04] <MonkeyDust> lauratika: what is that /dev/dm-0, it it not a hard drive?
[01:04] <brokencodes> do you have Xorg installed?
[01:04] <lauratika> MonkeyDust: no is not a hard drive...
[01:04] <brokencodes> if so, lauratika, open a console, and open palimpsest, and tell us what all drives it finds
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> Dreamer3: all I can say is use that to make a batch of 1 and the user will get made with the password set, could try asking in #bash
[01:05] <lauratika> brokencodes:only main hard drive
[01:05] <lauratika> and cd/dvd hard drive
[01:06] <brokencodes> then its safe to say that /dev/dm-0 is not a drive
[01:06] <lauratika> but why is listed then?
[01:06] <brokencodes> iono
[01:06] <brokencodes> if it were a drive, would show in palimpsest
[01:06] <escott_> lauratika, try dmsetup info /dev/dm-0
[01:07] <lauratika> this maybe is creating a little messy thing with cryptkeeper when i mount a folder sometimes if i load a cd/dvd or a usb the mounted partition shows but cryptkeeper crash
[01:07] <lauratika> i have to umount -a then it works fine
[01:09] <lauratika> escott_:  cryptswap1 is the name... but is weird the size it's only 2 gb
[01:09] <MonkeyDust> lauratika: that means that the second drive is found in /etc/fstab
[01:09] <escott_> lauratika, thats what it is. you encrypted your swap, and you have a dm crypt device for that encrypted swap
[01:10] <escott_> lauratika, check what swaps you have in /proc/swaps
[01:10] <lauratika> MonkeyDust: in fstab is not listed my secodn hard drive, in the bios is not recognized but i try a lot of different ways to plug in into the new power supply and still not recognized
[01:11] <lauratika> escott_: Filename				Type		Size	Used	Priority
[01:11] <lauratika> /dev/dm-0                               partition	2301948	1001576	-1
[01:13] <escott_> lauratika, it seems that you either created a cryptswap device that was smaller than your swap partition, or created a cryptswap device on the root filesystem and didnt swapon your swap partition
[01:14] <ameer__> hi, good day everybody, :D
[01:14] <cache_surplus> its saturday night in Southern Cali, im out...l8
[01:14] <shakaponk> hey guyz, i have a noob question: changing locale from german to english. already googled it, tried the solution everybody told, rebooted. still german. ubuntu 10.04.lts
[01:15] <lauratika> escott_: my swap partition is listed with free command... is there a way to delete that dev 0 partition?
[01:16] <escott_> lauratika, im not familiar with dmsetup at all, but theoretically swapoff /dev/dm-0; dmsetup remove /dev/dm-0; swapon /dev/sda4
[01:16] <maheanuu> Sorry for the break, I didn't see if anyone answered me on the permissions thing, phone call interruption.
[01:16] <Restricted> hi morning ALL
[01:16] <lauratika> escott in gparted the swap partition looks listed as unknown... but with swapon -a command says swapon: /dev/mapper/cryptswap1: swapon failed: Device or resource busy
[01:17] <escott_> lauratika, you might want to mkswap /dev/sda4; swapon /dev/sda4, and also edit fstab
[01:17] <RussW> Is there a way to control where downloaded files are stored within Firefox under Ubuntu?
[01:17] <caretrain> sv
[01:17] <caretrain> Oops, sorry
[01:17] <maheanuu> How do I change the permission to write to a USB ext hard disk, at present it is set read only and I didn't set it that way
[01:18] <escott_> maheanuu, can you !paste the output of "mount"
[01:18] <StrangeCharm> russw yes, open up your options menu
[01:18] <complexity> Intel 845G PCI Accelerated SVGA
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> RussW: right click the link then click "save as" and you can select the location
[01:18] <complexity> anyone have any idea how to get that video card working decently
[01:18] <escott_> !paste | maheanuu
[01:19] <complexity> so I can at least play videos in full screen
[01:19] <complexity> Intel 845G PCI Accelerated SVGA
[01:19] <StrangeCharm> RussW, that'll be edit>preferences>general
[01:19] <StrangeCharm> RussW, then look at the "downloads" section
[01:19] <RussW> I'll check that...thanks
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> complexity: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc    please
[01:20] <maheanuu> escott_, Yes I can give me a minute or so
[01:20] <complexity> lsb command not found?
[01:20] <lauratika> escott_: device busy
[01:20] <escott_> complexity, "lsb_release -sc" exactly as it is typed
[01:20] <complexity> natty sorry
[01:21] <complexity> didn't see the underscore
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> complexity: lsb_release   not lsb
[01:21] <escott_> lauratika, you need to swapoff first
[01:21] <graingert> !question | jakel
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> complexity: there's an underscore between
[01:21] <lauratika> yes seawoff -a but  swapoff: /dev/dm-0: swapoff failed: Cannot allocate memory
[01:21] <escott_> lauratika, and make sure you have enough ram to swapoff first, we don't want to force you to OOM
[01:21] <complexity> ActionParsnip, yes i added it and got natty
[01:22] <shakaponk> hey guyz, i have a noob question: changing locale from german to english. already googled it, tried the solution everybody told, rebooted. still german. ubuntu 10.04.lts
[01:22] <escott_> lauratika, see if you can swapon /dev/sda4 then. it should complain if dm holds the underlying device
[01:23] <lauratika> invalid argument
[01:23] <rootlslapwd> sl
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> complexity: those intel 8xxx chips are really touchy about timings and such and are prone to lockups. In short, they suck
[01:24] <maheanuu> escott_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/691986/
[01:24] <rootlslapwd> hi
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> complexity: may help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes
[01:24] <rootlslapwd> hii
[01:24] <rootlslapwd> hi
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> !away > dracmas_away
[01:25] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/53667/fixing-display-issues-on-intel-82845gl-in-natty complexity I gave you this link earlier, did you read it
[01:25] <dracmas_away> sorry didn't know it was like this for this room
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> dracmas_away: no worries, now you know ;)
[01:25] <complexity> bazhang, from top to bottom
[01:25] <escott_> lauratika, thats suggestive that /dev/sda4 is held by dm-cryptswap. you could try to mkswap /dev/sda4. or you could create a swap file with dd from /dev/zero to some file, mkswap that and then swapon that file
[01:25] <rootlslapwd> who is on backtrack?
[01:25] <complexity> it sucks because this computer runs so perfect in **** windows
[01:25] <rootlslapwd> ???
[01:25] <rootlslapwd> ????
[01:26] <bazhang> rootlslapwd, people in #backtrack-linux
[01:26] <complexity> bazhang, the one fix supplied, after I added it, the computer wouldn't boot up, lol
[01:26] <rootlslapwd> i need botnet
[01:26] <escott_> maheanuu, the device in question is the KENS STORAG device
[01:26] <maheanuu> Yes
[01:26] <rootlslapwd> i need botnet
[01:26] <bazhang> rootlslapwd, thats not supported on this network, backtrack is not supported in this channel
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> complexity: thats because the driver support is different
[01:27] <maheanuu> escott_, Yes it is
[01:27] <escott_> maheanuu, that is mounted rw with permissions for the user with uid 1000 (the user created with the installer)
[01:27] <terr> for an install what file system should I use?
[01:27] <lauratika> blkid shows cryptswap1: UUID="52a4248b-ac1d-4de3-90e6-28042430cffc" should i create in fstab with that UUID for a swap?
[01:27] <Gentoo64> terr, ext4
[01:27] <bazhang> !backtrack | rootlslapwd
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> complexity: some stuff works in Ubuntu which doesn't work in Windows
[01:27] <rootlslapwd> thanls bazhang
[01:28] <terr> Gentoo64: I currently use ext3 - what is better about ext4?
[01:28] <escott_> maheanuu, if you are uid 1000 and cant make changes, check the permissions on the /media/KENS STORAG folder with ls -l /media
[01:28] <rootlslapwd> ok
[01:28] <maheanuu> escott_,  run that by me in simple english, I am totally lost
[01:28] <Gentoo64> terr, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4
[01:28] <escott_> lauratika, do you want to keep the cryptswap? or remove it?
[01:28] <terr> Gentoo64: reading the artical already
[01:28] <Gentoo64> ok
[01:28] <escott_> terr, extents
[01:29] <maheanuu> escott_, how do I become uid 1000
[01:29] <lauratika> well so far i think this is creating the conflict with swap partitions so i want to have the swap recognized by gparted as sda4
[01:29] <escott_> maheanuu, check if you are with "id"
[01:29] <lauratika> so far i dont have  a swap partition on the fstab
[01:30] <lauratika> #swap was on /dev/sda4 during installation
[01:31] <escott_> lauratika, assuming the cryptswap is on top of the sda4 you would want to swapoff that cryptswap, dmsetup remove that device, mkswap sda4 and swapon sda4. the problem is you dont seem to have enough ram to swapoff the existing swap. so either close applications and free ram, or create a swap file on your root partition and swapon that file so you can swapoff the cryptswap
[01:31] <pureevol> im running ubuntu 11.04 with wubi, when i installed ubuntu i only allocated 10gig of my harddrive to ubuntu. how do i increase this?
[01:32] <maheanuu> escott_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/691992/
[01:32] <escott_> pureevol, not sure you can
[01:32] <vercingetorix> hi, so when logging in as ec2-user, do i have to have a separate keypair for it? as in, the keypair that goes after the -i flag in `ssh -i KEYPAIR ec2-user@host.com` ?
[01:32] <vercingetorix> i tried using my normal keypair but it freaks out about a private keypair
[01:32] <vercingetorix> hi, so when logging in as ec2-user, do i have to have a separate keypair for it? as in, the keypair that goes after the -i flag in `ssh -i KEYPAIR ec2-user@host.com` ?
[01:32] <vercingetorix> normally i login with: `ssh -i id_rsa-myusername-keypair ubuntu@host.com`
[01:32] <rww> !repeat
[01:32] <vercingetorix> sorry about that rww :`
[01:32] <pureevol> i already tried gparted. but it doesnt show unbuntu being in an actual partitian
[01:33] <escott_> maheanuu, so you are 1000, likely the problem is permissions on /media/KENS STORAG. what does ls -l /media  say, and what does touch /media/KENS\ STORAGE/test.txt say
[01:33] <escott_> pureevol, its not, its a file on your ntfs partition
[01:33] <lauratika> sda4 is not anymore on... my swap memory is using 41 ércent of the 2gb at the moment but im only using the browser
[01:34] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1625371 pureevol this may be relevant
[01:35] <lauratika> is there a way to know what is using teh swap memory?
[01:35] <vercingetorix> actually forget my previous question
[01:35] <vercingetorix> see, what i'm trying to do is change my login shell
[01:35] <vercingetorix> from bash to zsh
[01:36] <escott_> vercingetorix, usermod
[01:36] <vercingetorix> i tried using the chsh command. it asks for my password. i don't user a password, i use a key to login
[01:38] <maheanuu> escott_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/691993/
[01:38] <vercingetorix> so escott_, would the cmd be like `usermod -s username /usr/bin/zsh` ... because that's not working
[01:38] <winstonG> i can't find any info online about this. for some reason even my natty mounts my ipod touch, neither banshee nor rhythmbox can recognize it. do i have to jailbreak it?
[01:39] <pureevol> ty bazhang
[01:39] <escott_> maheanuu, try KENS\ STORAG not STORAGE
[01:40] <escott_> vercingetorix, it would be usermod -s `which zsh` username
[01:40] <vercingetorix> yeah i just got htat
[01:40] <vercingetorix> like literally right before you said it, looked at the mans :)
[01:41] <vercingetorix> that was nice
[01:41] <vercingetorix> thanks escott_
[01:42] <deserteagle> 'ello!
[01:42] <deserteagle> how can I get running an ATI card alongside an NVIDIA one?
[01:43] <maheanuu> escott_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/691996/
[01:43] <simius> deserteagle, What is your setup like?
[01:43] <deserteagle> simius: as in hardware specs?
[01:44] <luc_> hi can anybody help me with no sound on my comp
[01:44] <escott_> maheanuu, weird.... you could try sudo mount -o remount,rw /media/KENS\ STORAG
[01:45] <maheanuu> escott_, Ok brb.....
[01:46] <ryan_> luc_; new install?
[01:46] <xqix9u2v> luc_, try unmuting in amixer
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> luc_: have you ever had sound?
[01:47] <vercingetorix> ah, how do i put this escott_ ...i thought it worked
[01:47] <vercingetorix> instead of what you told me however, i did this:
[01:47] <vercingetorix> i did `usermod /usr/bin/zsh -s username`
[01:47] <luc_> no
[01:48] <ryan_> did u try to unmute?
[01:48] <escott_> vercingetorix, as long as that is the correct path to zsh its the same
[01:48] <vercingetorix> but for some reason my keyfile locally wont work for logging in
[01:48] <maheanuu> escott_, I drop back to just a blinking cursor
[01:48] <vercingetorix> says Permission Denied (publickey)
[01:48] <vercingetorix> didn't do this before...
[01:49] <luc_> i dont see a mute button
[01:49] <jwpeddle> I don't know why there's 800085437 confusing ways of doing this online. What is the simple way of disabling the motd on login?
[01:49] <escott_> vercingetorix, well ssh auth_keys is a different method of login that password login. so it wouldn't work locally. you can check if your shell was changed by grepping your username from /etc/passwd
[01:49] <escott_> maheanuu, so now try the touch command again
[01:49] <deserteagle> how can I get an ATI card to run alongside an NVIDIA one?
[01:50] <maheanuu> escott_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/691999/
[01:50] <r3m> Hi, how to reinstall grub2 on root fs please
[01:50] <escott_> deserteagle, im not sure you can. you can try to run two xservers, but having multiple graphics cards is complex, you would need something like vga_switcheroo or bumblebee but for ati/nvidia instead of ati/intel or nvidia/intel
[01:50] <pureevol> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1625371 im trying to follow this link. i have the wubi file. unzipped. but when i run the code it says not such file or directory
[01:50] <escott_> !grub | r3m
[01:50] <deserteagle> r3m: quickest way: reinstall ubuntu and tell it to put grub in the / partition
[01:51] <luc_> i dual boot with windows 7 and it works fine on windows 7
[01:51] <escott_> maheanuu, try to touch /media/KENS\ STORAG/test.txt again
[01:52] <escott_> deserteagle, that is not good advice for r3m, he almost certainly doesn't want grub on his /, he just doesn't know how to phrase what he wants
[01:52]  * deserteagle shrugs
[01:52] <luc_> ryan-it never worked on ubuntu
[01:52] <deserteagle> figured he meant / when he wrote "fs"
[01:52] <deserteagle> err "root fs"
[01:53] <vercingetorix> escott_: yeah, the thing is i can't login at all this box now
[01:53] <maheanuu> I still drop back to the command line
[01:53] <vercingetorix> normally i'd login with this key
[01:54] <escott_> vercingetorix, try ssh user@machine /bin/bash
[01:54] <vercingetorix> why is it denying it now, did the usermod thing change something about the key
[01:54] <vercingetorix> ok
[01:54] <maheanuu> escott_, I am still dropping back to the command line
[01:54] <escott_> vercingetorix, try ssh user@machine /bin/bash --login
[01:54] <escott_> maheanuu, if the touch command doesn't give an error then it succeeded and you can modify files on the usb device
[01:55] <maheanuu> So I should be ok now
[01:55] <maheanuu> escott_, Thanks I will give it a try and thanks
[01:55] <escott_> maheanuu, try it, but for now at least things are working. unclear why it was not working earlier though
[01:55] <hipo_> hello how do i change my settings to get the login screen back i have it set to log in automaticaly but cant find were i changed it
[01:56] <volty> hi, there was an utility to choose which version of a package to use, can't remember
[01:56] <escott_> hipo_, there is a file /etc/gdm/custom.conf which you can remove/rename and disable the autologin
[01:56] <vercingetorix> no luck escott_ :(
[01:57] <vercingetorix> is this box dead to me? :(
[01:58] <escott_> vercingetorix, you are getting authkey errors? and not shell doesn't exist errors? check with ssh -v. if you had a bad login shell specified your session might immediately close, if it is authkey you are locked out
[01:59] <vercingetorix> ssh -v: OpenSSH_5.3p1 Debian-3ubuntu7, OpenSSL 0.9.8k 25 Mar 2009
[01:59] <vercingetorix> every attempt i try comes up with this: Permission denied (publickey).
[01:59] <luc_> can i get any help with no sound on my comp
[01:59] <escott_> vercingetorix, sounds like your key is not valid. ie you are locked out
[02:00] <vercingetorix> did usermod change the key somehow?
[02:00] <vercingetorix> is that possible?
[02:00] <escott_> vercingetorix, shouldn't have. changing your home directory would mess things up, or changing permissions on .ssh would mess things up
[02:00] <vercingetorix> oh
[02:01] <vercingetorix> i do have a .ssh/config .. lemme se that
[02:01] <escott_> vercingetorix, try to ssh in with verbosity ssh -v username@host
[02:01] <vercingetorix> config file looks pretty kosher
[02:01] <vercingetorix> ok
[02:01] <Sgteich> when i attempt to connect to a window 7 share i get an unable to mount location error
[02:02] <escott_> luc_, lots to check. is anything showing as muted in alsamixer?
[02:03] <vercingetorix> escott_: output: http://pastebin.com/CR7D5nfm
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> Sgteich: http://thelinuxexperiment.com/linux/accessing-windows-7-shares-from-ubuntu-is-a-pain/
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> Sgteich: that has some stuff you can try
[02:03] <vercingetorix> it says the host keys match...what's up??
[02:03] <Sgteich> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[02:03] <vercingetorix> odd
[02:03] <buhman> only ubuntu users would be using windows
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> buhman: how do you mean?
[02:04] <vercingetorix> ActionParsnip: don't feed the troll, plus he's run away
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> vercingetorix: I feed them til they burst. I eat trolls for breakfast
[02:05] <vercingetorix> i like to eat them lean, personally
[02:05] <vercingetorix> starve them for attention
[02:05] <deserteagle> easier to pluck, too
[02:05] <winut> dont feed him, his mum is skinny and just wants to make him obesce!
[02:06] <deserteagle> how can i set up my bluetooth headphones to work? :(
[02:06] <escott_> vercingetorix, no thats checking that the server is recognized as the same server in known_hosts. it appears to try your private key id_rsa-gnycl-keypair and fail
[02:06] <deserteagle> i've gotten them to pair, but no dice on getting audio through them
[02:06] <volty> wine1.2 installed via default wine meta package, what is the correct way to change to 1.3?
[02:06] <vercingetorix> ohhhh
[02:06] <luc_> escott_, no
[02:06] <vercingetorix> lemme try something
[02:06] <hellhammer> I'm running ubuntu 10.04 and I'm having trouble staying connected to my wifi network the network shows as full strength but the connection will drop frequently whats going on and how can i fix it?
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: try disabling ipv6
[02:07] <escott_> deserteagle, go to the volume control thing and go to sound settings and change the input/output device to your bt headphones
[02:07] <deserteagle> they won't show there, escott_
[02:07] <deserteagle> :(
[02:07] <escott_> luc_, what kind of sound card is this? lspci can help identify
[02:08] <hellhammer> it is disabled actionparsnip
[02:08] <winut> deserteagle: you'd be right to end it all now with that long face :-)
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: ok, when the link drops, run:  dmesg | tail    what is output?
[02:08] <escott_> vercingetorix, thats the last three/four lines of the ssh output
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: did you disable it with a kernel bootoption?
[02:09] <luc_> escott_, nvidia with hdmi audio out to tv
[02:09] <deserteagle> winut: o_O?
[02:09] <vercingetorix> escott_: i tried changing the HostName in the ~/.ssh/config file to trackingedu.com instead of the ec2-supplied url that it was set to
[02:09] <vercingetorix> no dice
[02:10] <Candylicious> I forgot my question because looking at the number of people shocked me so hard :$
[02:10] <hellhammer> no i didnt
[02:10] <escott_> luc_, go up to the sound icon in the upper right and go to the sound settings and change the output device to the HDMI device. it may be trying to send through the wrong device
[02:10] <hellhammer> i edited a conf file
[02:10] <vercingetorix> i wonder if i can change keyfile from the ec2 console
[02:11] <luc_> escott_, no it is the correct one
[02:11] <outstandingcitiz> !ops
[02:11] <vercingetorix> but would i have to make sure it's changed on the hosts side as well?
[02:11] <escott_> vercingetorix, im not sure what you had in your ~/.ssh/config so I can't comment on what that might or might not have done, but the key you are sending is evidently invalid
[02:11] <rww> outstandingcitiz: Hi, something we can help with?
[02:11] <Space-Duck> Do you think I'll ever be able to watch Netflix on Ubuntu (w/o heavy modifications)?
[02:11] <Sgteich> ActionParsnip: I looked at the link you sent - I don't have any windows live installed or any of the windows live essentials installed as mentioned
[02:11] <escott_> Space-Duck, write a letter to netflix, but its not likely
[02:12] <SpitfireWP> outstandingcitiz, that was rude.
[02:12] <rww> I guess not.
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> Sgteich: that's all I know.
[02:12] <Space-Duck> escott_, I've already sent them some hate mail over it
[02:12] <vercingetorix> escott_: my config file, with the change: http://pastebin.com/7bfn2zGu
[02:13] <Sgteich> ActionParsnip: Thanks for your help
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> hellhammer: add the boot option:   ipv6.disable=1   in the quote with:  quiet splash   in /etc/default/grub   save the new file and run:  sudo update-grub   it will then disable ipv6
[02:13] <escott_> Space-Duck, well hate mail isn't too productive. they are at the mercy of the studios who view linux users as massive torrenters
[02:13] <vercingetorix> only diff from orig is HostName was my ec2-supplied hostname, i've just binded the public ip to trackingedu.com
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> Sgteich: maybe others can help
[02:13] <vercingetorix> it's been working fine for a week
[02:14] <escott_> Space-Duck, to get a license to stream to a system that is controlled by those evil hackers would cost them a lot more
[02:15] <yeastwars> are there any decent filesystems that support adding arbitrary tags to files, and querying based on those tags? (basically like a database)
[02:15] <vercingetorix> yeastwars: probably ZFS
[02:15] <vercingetorix> it does anything
[02:15] <Space-Duck> escott_, your probably right, but I pirated way more stuff on windows. everything I need on *nix is free, it's fricki' awesome
[02:15] <vercingetorix> or that serial killer freak's amazing FS yeastwars
[02:16] <yeastwars> vercingetorix: oh, he killed more than one person?
[02:16] <vercingetorix> his wife and his daughter i think
[02:16] <escott_> vercingetorix, i dont think the change you made to your .config is the cause of your problems
[02:16] <vercingetorix> damn shame, his filesystem was the best around i heard
[02:16] <vercingetorix> bleeding edge of the research apparently
[02:16] <yeastwars> either way, neither of these seems to do that
[02:16] <vercingetorix> is ZFS on linux yet?
[02:16] <yeastwars> I found tagsistant and tagfs, both of which look experimental
[02:17] <vercingetorix> or still chained to bs licensing crap?
[02:17] <escott_> yeastwars, its possible to put a good bit of data onto some extended fields in ext4, its just not usually used
[02:17] <yeastwars> last I heard, it is on linux
[02:17] <yeastwars> escott_: I suppose there aren't that many tools that exploit them yet either?
[02:17] <FoxtrotZero> Gentlemen, if i'm going to create a new Partition on my HDD for Ubuntu, how should it be formatted? NTFS?
[02:18] <IdleOne> FoxtrotZero: ext4
[02:18] <escott_> yeastwars, beagle apparently uses user_xattr
[02:18] <bonjohnjovi> how do i get gnome-shell in 11.10?
[02:18] <yeastwars> escott_: ahhh right, I completely forgot about those
[02:18] <yeastwars> glustefs also uses them
[02:18] <yeastwars> glusterfs*
[02:18] <IdleOne> bonjohnjovi: #ubuntu+1 for 11.10
[02:18] <yeastwars> good call
[02:18] <FoxtrotZero> IdleOne: Am I going to be able to move my files from NTFS to EXT4?
[02:18] <escott_> bonjohnjovi, install gnome-shell, but please ask in +1 channel
[02:18] <IdleOne> yes
[02:18] <IdleOne> FoxtrotZero: yes.
[02:19] <FoxtrotZero> IdleOne: Alright, thanks.
[02:21] <luc_> escott_, anything else i could check
[02:21] <escott_> luc_, afraid i dont know of anything. i know hdmi sound seems to be an issue for a lot of people
[02:22] <luc_> thanks
[02:22] <mukti> I currently have cheese installed on my laptop to access the webcam; but I've noticed that the images are not the greatest quality. Are there any decent applications that will take picture/video from a webcam, and will use the maximum capabilities of the webcam?
[02:22] <FoxtrotZero> Does anyone know where I can acquire windows binaries for GParted?
[02:22] <sam555> hello all!
[02:23] <sam555> was wondering how to get the ubuntu wizard going in netbook version of ubuntu
[02:23] <macer1> hi, sam555
[02:23] <sam555> I've been going through this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient
[02:23] <escott_> FoxtrotZero, if there are windows binaries you would get them from the gparted website, but im not sure thats the best idea
[02:23] <sam555> I'm use to using openvpn on windows machines so this is new for me
[02:23] <FoxtrotZero> escott_ What do you mean "not the best idea"?
[02:23] <jwpeddle> FoxtrotZero: what are you trying to do?
[02:24] <luc_> where can you get a list of all the chat channels on ubuntu
[02:24] <escott_> FoxtrotZero, gparted uses posix specific methods to access the devices, you don't want to run your partitioning tool through an emulation layer
[02:24] <urlin2u> luc_, you using exchat ?
[02:24] <FoxtrotZero> jwpeddle: Maybe i'm going about this all wrong. I need a windows-compatible partition-editing software. I was reccomended Gparted. If you have a reccomendation that's WinXP compatible, i'm listening.
[02:24] <escott_> !log
[02:25] <escott_> !alis | luc_
[02:25] <luc_> of other topic channels
[02:25] <jwpeddle> FoxtrotZero: gparted is a live cd. You boot into it. It'll work with windows partitions, if that's what you mean.
[02:25] <vercingetorix> or someone could have slipped a 'format C:/' into the gparted client for Windows FoxtrotZero
[02:25] <vercingetorix> ;)
[02:26] <FoxtrotZero> jwpeddle: Well that's not how it was provided to me. I'm not quite sure how to deal with it. Is there a way to use it for WinXP, or should I be using different software?
[02:26] <mukti> I currently have cheese installed on my laptop to access the webcam; but I've noticed that the images are not the greatest quality. Are there any decent applications that will take picture/video from a webcam, and will use the maximum capabilities of the webcam?
[02:26] <escott_> FoxtrotZero, use a livecd or use a native windows partitioning tool (I can't recommend any)
[02:26] <FoxtrotZero> escott_ Right then. To wikipedia it is.
[02:26] <jwpeddle> FoxtrotZero: it's easy to use, you just don't do it from within windows. Put it on cd/usb and boot into it. It's got a desktop and a gui app and it's relatively friendly to use.
[02:27] <urlin2u> FoxtrotZero, are you trying to install ubuntu?
[02:27] <jwpeddle> I'm braindead and I've never managed to wreck anything with gparted on ubuntu, windows, or osx
[02:27] <FoxtrotZero> urlin2u: Well, no. At the moment, i'm trying to create a partition into which I can install ubuntu. I understand the installation process for ubuntu has a way to do this, but i'm not used to screwing with partitions, and I couldn't quite make sense of it.
[02:28] <escott_> FoxtrotZero, so boot you install media, but try ubuntu instead of installing, and use the included gparted there
[02:28] <jwpeddle> FoxtrotZero: oh! You don't need to. If you just wanna tool around with ubuntu, one of the installation processes fakes a partition
[02:28] <urlin2u> FoxtrotZero, the ubuntu live cd has gparted.
[02:28] <FoxtrotZero> urlin2u: Specifically, I want to shrink the C partition that WinXP is on, and create a new partition in which to install Ubuntu, and later move my files into.
[02:28] <ygor> Hello all. I have a notebook with ubuntu 10.04 full costumize with my favorites apps and stuff. I'd like to make a flash-driver to boot with the same settings and apps and stuff as i have on this notebook, and open on different machines.. i know remastersys does that, but its not working so, does anyone have any suggestions?
[02:28] <jwpeddle> It was called wubi, probably still is
[02:29] <urlin2u> FoxtrotZero, how many partitions on the hd now?
[02:29] <FoxtrotZero> jwpeddle: I already have a poor track record with wubi
[02:29] <FoxtrotZero> irlin2u: Two. C and D.
[02:29] <FoxtrotZero> Escott_: You mean if I trial Ubuntu off of the install disk, it has gparted and I can just do the work from there?
[02:29] <escott_> jwpeddle, wubi is something many of us would not recommend
[02:29] <escott_> FoxtrotZero, yes
[02:30] <urlin2u> FoxtrotZero, just use the ubuntu live cd, gparted is on it to do what you want.
[02:30] <FoxtrotZero> escott: Alright then. Thanks for that. You just saved me alot of trouble.
[02:30] <urlin2u> ygor, what is not working with remastersys.
[02:30] <FoxtrotZero> escott_: One more question. Can I create a partition using a letter that's usually reserved for USB devices (specifically K)?
[02:31] <escott_> FoxtrotZero, linux doesnt use letters like that
[02:31] <jwpeddle> The partition wouldn't have a letter in windows
[02:31] <strigoi66> are there any channels for android developing
[02:31] <FoxtrotZero> escott_ I see what you mean. How would ubuntu identify it?
[02:31] <jwpeddle> like*
[02:32] <ygor> urlin2u: im doing what remastersys asks...the dist option. but it just wont boot up on the other machine..it says theres no image or something like that
[02:32] <escott_> FoxtrotZero, the partition will be sdX# where X is the letter for the device (a) for the first hard drive found (b) for the second etc.... # for the partition number
[02:32] <urlin2u> ygor, you using a disc or thumb?
[02:32] <FoxtrotZero> escott_ So it would be in sda3. Alright. I'm going to go ahead and set it up. Thanks for the help, gentlemen.
[02:33] <jwpeddle> FoxtrotZero: you can give the partition a friendlier label when you create it as well
[02:33] <FoxtrotZero> jwpeddle: How might I do that?
[02:33] <escott_> FoxtrotZero, in the label column of the gparted tool
[02:33] <ygor> urlin2u: im making a iso, then i make a bootup flash drive with ubuntu...and just dont boot up
[02:33] <FoxtrotZero> escott_ Very well. Anything else I should know before I go?
[02:34] <jwpeddle> don't delete your xp partition, just resize it :D
[02:34] <escott_> FoxtrotZero, just feel free to come back to the channel if you have questions
[02:34] <urlin2u> ygor, the dist is a disc on the basic system you know this?  The use of a thumb is a bit trickier.
[02:34] <urlin2u> on=of
[02:34] <escott_> !xy | FoxtrotZero and one other thing:
[02:35] <josh9> echo testing | mail -s 'Bla' my-email@gmail.com  but i don't see my email. any tips?
[02:35] <josh9> i found it in the junk!
[02:35] <ygor> urlin2u: i dont understand this...but silly question...is there a way to costumize my ubuntu, then make a iso file of this system and be able to boot on any computer?
[02:36] <escott_> ygor, there was a tool with the edubuntu project for rolling isos, but what may be simpler is to make a persistent usb system
[02:36] <Corey> !sound | luc_
[02:36] <urlin2u> ygor, yes this is the command sudo remastersys backup  , but the getting it to boot from a thumb is a bit more trickier, I haven't gotten thta far.
[02:37] <mukti> I was looking up how to set up my webcam/mic and I ran into a problem. When I run ls /dev/audio*    nothing is returned
[02:37] <escott_> urlin2u, you may have to use unetbootin to make that work
[02:37] <escott_> mukti, /dev/snd/*
[02:38] <ygor> escott_: ahh ok
[02:38] <urlin2u> escott_, tried that, from the web it is said to not be that hard but a little more tweaking.
[02:38] <mukti> escott_: okay, thanks. Do you know how I could figure out what ones are the built in mics?
[02:38] <escott_> mukti, not really sorry
[02:38] <ygor> urlin2u: i was doind this using the ubuntu aplication to do so, the usb creator or something like that..but when it boots, it just says theres no filesystem or something like that
[02:38] <mukti> okay, thanks. I'll try to figure it out
[02:39] <ygor> but thanks guys...
[02:41] <PxGaZuZ> this is great saves time on net surfing for help
[02:41] <jiawei> what is ubuntu's rc.local?
[02:41] <PxGaZuZ> based on where u are? i guess
[02:41] <jiawei> im trying to set up a ventrilo server, and i want to make it start on boot
[02:41] <jiawei> can someone help me?
[02:41] <PxGaZuZ> im sure sum1 in here could
[02:42] <centHOGG> try not to move your lips so much
[02:42] <PxGaZuZ> im a noob
[02:42] <PxGaZuZ> lol cent
[02:42] <djmaster> well then im working
[02:42] <jiawei> can someone help me see my hostname?
[02:42] <djmaster> On what
[02:42] <jiawei> on this
[02:42] <jiawei> when i log on
[02:43] <jwpeddle> type hostname
[02:43] <jiawei> hostname
[02:43] <jiawei> ./hostname doesn't work too
[02:43] <jiawei> on weechat
[02:43] <jwpeddle> in your terminal you clown
[02:43] <jwpeddle> :D
[02:43] <jiawei> lol
[02:44] <jiawei> wait so whats the ubuntu rc.local?
[02:44] <PxGaZuZ> lol jw
[02:44] <Bogus8> Anyone watching the mayweather vs ortiz fight right now?
[02:44] <PxGaZuZ> i am
[02:44] <Bogus8> expecially streaming. :)
[02:44] <PxGaZuZ> FREE
[02:45] <PxGaZuZ> yes bogus
[02:45] <PxGaZuZ> morales cut him up gooodd
[02:45] <PxGaZuZ> i thought cano wouldve been tougher than that
[02:45] <Bogus8> PxGaZuZ: got a link?
[02:45] <PxGaZuZ> yes
[02:45] <PxGaZuZ> one sec
[02:45] <snufft> hi guys
[02:46] <PxGaZuZ> http://pacquiaovsclotteyhbo.blogspot.com/
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> jiawei: it's /etc/rc.local   same as any Linux
[02:46] <jiawei> ActionParsnip: ty
[02:46] <PxGaZuZ> u have to share it
[02:46] <luc_> how can i update my video driver to nvidia latest
[02:46] <Bogus8> PxGaZuZ: in what way?
[02:46] <Bogus8> oh I see
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> jiawei: if you are adding to it, add ABOVE the exit 0 line
[02:46] <Bogus8> wait no I don't... it seems to be working
[02:47] <PxGaZuZ> the video is on?
[02:47] <Bogus8> PxGaZuZ: Morales is a tough dude
[02:47] <jiawei> ActionParsnip: by default the script does nothing
[02:47] <Bogus8> PxGaZuZ: Yep yep
[02:47] <PxGaZuZ> yea
[02:47] <jiawei> ActionParsnip: how do i make it start up my vent?
[02:47] <PxGaZuZ> cool bogus
[02:47] <Bogus8> PxGaZuZ: how far away till main event?
[02:47] <jwpeddle> luc_: download it, install it, then spend 4 hours crying onto your keyboard
[02:47] <snufft> i'm having a problem with my ubuntu machine. i was trying to fix the nvidia drivers yesterday and i think that as part of an apt-get update, i've screwed my machine somehow. i can't get to random sites, they just time out. i originally thought it was just subdomains, but i can get to some subdomains as well. also, i can't see the ubuntu machine on the windows network any more (i have samba installed and it was configured correctly, sen
[02:47] <PxGaZuZ> one more fight i think
[02:47] <Bogus8> PxGaZuZ: thanks a bunch btw!!!
[02:48] <PxGaZuZ> yea i just found it like 5-10mins ago
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> jiawei: how do you mean 'vent'?
[02:48] <jiawei> ventrilo
[02:48] <jiawei> server
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> jiawei: I see, when you boot, the command will run as root.
[02:48] <jiawei> automatically?
[02:48] <jiawei> as long as i put this script # Startup ventrilo servers.
[02:48] <jiawei> VENPATH=/home/ventrilo
[02:49] <jiawei> VENBIN=$VENPATH/ventrilo_srv
[02:49] <jiawei> su ventrilo -c "$VENBIN -f$VENPATH/ventrilo_srv -d"
[02:49] <FloodBot1> jiawei: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:49] <luc_> is there a better way then to get sound to work
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> jiawei: yes, its the last thing ran before the login prompt shows
[02:50] <Bogus8> PxGaZuZ: I remember the Pacquiao vs De La Hoya... had to chase streams all over the net LOL
[02:50] <jiawei> ActionParsnip: awesome
[02:50] <Bogus8> PxGaZuZ: Is your stream choppy or is it coming in fine?
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> jiawei: if you add that stuff in ~/.bashrc   it will be set when you log in
[02:50] <PxGaZuZ> this my first time doin it. i didnt kno it was possible till earlier last week
[02:50] <jiawei> is there a auto dynamic ip updater for ventrilo? O_O
[02:51] <PxGaZuZ> its alright, it freezes a little every now and then
[02:51] <Bogus8> PxGaZuZ: cool, making sure it wasn't just my connection or browser
[02:51] <PxGaZuZ> Bogus8: yea ikr
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> jiawei: there is dhcp which is a defacto standard, it will work if there is a DHCP service on your LAN
[02:51] <PxGaZuZ> http://pacquiaovsclotteyhbo.blogspot.com/
[02:52] <PxGaZuZ> any1 that wants to watch Mayweather v ortiz
[02:52] <luc_> when i do sudo aplay -1 why does it list 9 devices and 4 say hdmi  0
[02:52] <PxGaZuZ> Bogus8: are u using blackbuntu?
[02:52] <Bogus8> PxGaZuZ: no... just run a couple of ubuntu servers
[02:53] <Bogus8> PxGaZuZ: I have an xtreamer but I doubt I could pull up this stream on it
[02:53] <PxGaZuZ> Bogus8: oh , i am. i figured it would b good to just get it so i could learn and do stuff at the same time instead of getting two diferent OS
[02:54] <PxGaZuZ> i never heard of xtreamer
[02:54] <Bogus8> PxGaZuZ: I'll have to check it out.  I don't currently run any linux desktops... my work makes it hard.
[02:55] <Drecondius> does anybody know what grub error 18 means?
[02:55] <PxGaZuZ> error in the grub
[02:56] <Drecondius> forgive the sarcasam but no s***
[02:56] <centHOGG> also which grub
[02:56] <Drecondius> ummmm
[02:56] <Dns> guys i need help with this bash file http://pastebin.com/hNjhsEkg
[02:57] <Drecondius> good question
[02:57] <Drecondius> I'm assuming grub 2
[02:58] <centHOGG> when did it work right last
[02:58] <PxGaZuZ> i was jus messin with u Dre
[02:58] <Drecondius> forgive me it's grub legacy
[02:58] <centHOGG> k
[02:58] <Drecondius> I know
[02:58] <Drecondius> lol
[02:58] <Drecondius> i was playing wow not even 15 minutes ago and poof
[02:58] <Drecondius> reboot and grub error 18
[02:59] <centHOGG> k
[02:59] <centHOGG> did you try a complete cold reboot
[02:59] <centHOGG> power off
[02:59] <Drecondius> did
[02:59] <centHOGG> k
[02:59] <Drecondius> the #grug channel is useless as they don't support grub legacy
[03:00] <centHOGG> Drecondius: would you have a live cd on you?
[03:00] <Drecondius> make that #grub
[03:00] <Drecondius> that's what im booted into
[03:00] <jiawei> can i make a ssh secure shell with wireless?
[03:00] <centHOGG> k
[03:00] <terr> I need to burn the install.iso using k3b and last time it went on the cd as a file not as a boot image.  Can anyone tell me how to do it correctly?
[03:00] <centHOGG> look at the /boot to see if it looks ok
[03:00] <centHOGG> on the hdd
[03:01] <Drecondius> assuming things haven't changed
[03:01] <centHOGG> yes
[03:01] <Drecondius> ok i think i know what it means
[03:01] <Drecondius> the hdd is not there
[03:01] <jiawei> can i make a ssh secure shell with wireless?
[03:01] <centHOGG> k
[03:02] <centHOGG> Drecondius: check your bios/cmos to see if the disk is physically detected
[03:02] <Drecondius> when i boot it is
[03:02] <jiawei> can i make a ssh secure shell with wireless?
[03:02] <Drecondius> as far as bios goes
[03:03] <centHOGG> k
[03:03] <centHOGG> thats good
[03:03] <thomad> hello
[03:03] <centHOGG> can you run a fsck on that hdd from the live cd
[03:03] <Drecondius> what is funny is the disk shows up in bios but not here
[03:03] <jiawei> can i make a ssh secure shell with wireless?
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> terr: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[03:03] <thomad> i am having a rather wierd issue in witch skype is sending my audio output and not my mic. can anyone help me?
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> jiawei: SSH is secure
[03:04] <centHOGG> which live cd do you have now
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> jiawei: it's what the first S in SSH stands for
[03:04] <Drecondius> who me?
[03:04] <centHOGG> yes
[03:04] <centHOGG> pm me
[03:04] <jiawei> ActionParsnip: yes what i wanna ask is can i do it with a wireless
[03:04] <Drecondius> Ubuntu 11.04 booting from usb
[03:04] <Drecondius> as my cd drive does not work
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> jiawei: yes, as long as there is a logical network link, it can be reached. The physical medium is irrelevant
[03:05] <jiawei> ActionParsnip: thankyou
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> jiawei: the OS will just use the interface it sees having a link and the kernel does the rest
[03:05] <PxGaZuZ> 11.04 sukd for me
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> PxGaZuZ: why so?
[03:05] <PxGaZuZ> evrything was goin bad on there
[03:06] <PxGaZuZ> kept freezing crashin , wouldnt upgrade the apps
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> PxGaZuZ: did you report bugs?
[03:06] <PxGaZuZ> it wouldnt let me
[03:06] <PxGaZuZ> i would get an error
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> PxGaZuZ: sure your hardware was healthy, especially RAM..
[03:07] <thomad> i am having a rather wierd issue in witch skype is sending my audio output and not my mic. can anyone help me?
[03:07] <PxGaZuZ> well im runnin blackbuntu right now so yea my comp is fine
[03:07] <PxGaZuZ> blackbuntu is bigger than ubuntu 11.04
[03:07] <PxGaZuZ> so i doubt that what the problem was
[03:07] <ActionParsnip> PxGaZuZ: blackbuntu's support is microscopic compared to that of Ubuntu's
[03:07] <PxGaZuZ> well i havent had any problems with it yet
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> PxGaZuZ: just remember to ask in the blackbuntu channels if/when you do
[03:08] <agkdomo> i had a faild upgrade to 11.10 so i did a clean install of 11.04 and now my wireless not working
[03:08] <agkdomo> any suggestions?
[03:08] <PxGaZuZ> i will AP thnx
[03:08] <PxGaZuZ> :D
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> agkdomo: what chip does it use?
[03:09] <SmilingDevil> agkdomo, do: ifconfig -a
[03:09] <Candylicious> Should Ubuntu lag when installed on a 4-core machine with 4GB RAM? I thought Linux was for old puters :D
[03:09] <r3m> Hi, during install, the installer ask question to detect corretly the keyboard. how to reexecute that please
[03:10] <agkdomo> SmilingDevil, i did ifconfig -a what am i looking for
[03:10] <agkdomo> ?
[03:11] <thomad> WOuld someone help me with my microphone issue
[03:11] <PxGaZuZ> http://pacquiaovsclotteyhbo.blogspot.com/
[03:11] <SmilingDevil> akgraner, to see if the device was found.
[03:12] <PxGaZuZ> mayweather v ortiz fight LIVE for free  http://pacquiaovsclotteyhbo.blogspot.com/
[03:12] <SmilingDevil> If so you just need to configure it manually.
[03:12] <bazhang> PxGaZuZ, wrong place
[03:12] <PxGaZuZ> bye guys and girls
[03:12] <SmilingDevil> Someone ban him.
[03:12] <SmilingDevil> -.-
[03:12] <PxGaZuZ> i was just helpin out
[03:12] <SmilingDevil> In #ubuntu?
[03:12] <PxGaZuZ> ban me for what?
[03:12]  * SmilingDevil considers that spam
[03:12] <PxGaZuZ> well sum1 in here askd about it
[03:12] <SmilingDevil> Then pm them.
[03:13] <PxGaZuZ> how is it spam i only posted once
[03:13] <Subha> hi all,, subha here
[03:13] <PxGaZuZ> whatever bye
[03:13] <thomad> will someone please help me
[03:13] <SmilingDevil> You said it twice.
[03:13] <SmilingDevil> lol
[03:13] <Subha> I want to use ubuntu parrallely with windoes
[03:13] <SmilingDevil> Subha, at the same time?
[03:13] <Subha> pls help me to do it without interrupting my net comnnection
[03:14] <Subha> yes, same time
[03:14] <sagaci> Subha, dual boot or one in a Virtual Machine?
[03:14] <SmilingDevil> ^
[03:14] <hey_im_jacob> lol noobs
[03:14] <SmilingDevil> hey_im_jacob?
[03:14] <Subha> yes i have installed VM virtualBox
[03:14] <SmilingDevil> Don't be mean.
[03:14] <SmilingDevil> Subha, you have to have a Windows CD and install it on the Virtual Machine.
[03:14] <SmilingDevil> Then they can run at the same time.
[03:14] <Subha> no, i have win 7 installed
[03:15] <SmilingDevil> I understand.
[03:15] <Subha> i want to install ubuntu now
[03:15] <SmilingDevil> Ooh.
[03:15] <Subha> and rn em parallely
[03:15] <sagaci> Subha, do you want the latest desktop version?
[03:15] <Subha> run*
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> agkdomo: run:  sudo lshw -C network    what is the product line for the wireless device
[03:15] <JjC2011> !Time
[03:15] <Subha> i have a ubuntu 10.10 CD
[03:16] <sagaci> !vm
[03:16] <sagaci> !VirtualBox
[03:16] <Subha> no no, im saying it again
[03:16] <Subha> i have win 7 already installed
[03:16] <sagaci> Subha, have you installed virtualbox?
[03:16] <agkdomo> ActionParsnip, AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)
[03:16] <Subha> now for some task i want a temporary linux environ
[03:17] <Subha> and yes, virtual box installed
[03:17] <xangua> Subha: install it on a virtual machine then, not much science on that
[03:17] <Subha> but, how to do that?
[03:18] <sagaci> Subha, open virtualbox and click New
[03:18] <xangua> ...
[03:18] <Subha> the virtualBox app is open now.
[03:18] <Subha> k
[03:18] <Subha> then
[03:18] <ygor> guys, if a make a dd comand, it will make a copy of my partition right? but how? and where can i find this copy? it will be a iso file?
[03:18] <sagaci> click next, give it a name and select the dropdown box to ubuntu
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> agkdomo: can you pastebin the output of: dmesg | egrep 'ath|firm'      Thanks
[03:18] <ktwohig9> Why not just recommend Wubi to Subha - http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> ygor: it will be an iso file, the file will be wherever you set of=  to
[03:19] <Subha> nono, i have a 10.10 lCD
[03:19] <Subha> CD*
[03:19] <Subha> ok then?
[03:19] <sagaci> ktwohig9, that's not what he wants
[03:19] <ktwohig9> right, but why use that when you can run 11.04 in conjunction with win 7
[03:19] <Subha> i dont need 11.04 man
[03:20] <sagaci> Subha, allocate some RAM to the VM, 512MB+ is fine
[03:20] <Subha> its just a small task
[03:20] <Subha> yes, aft that?
[03:20] <ygor> ActionParsnip: ohh thanks, and...with this iso file, can i create a bootable flash drive to initiate on other computers? it would boot?
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> ktwohig9: win7 can resize it's own partition and you can install to the freed space
[03:20] <sagaci> Subha, create a new hard disk, using the default 8GB space
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> ygor: I very much doubt it
[03:20] <agkdomo> ActionParsnip, i sent it in a pm
[03:21] <Subha> do i need to click on "Start up disk"?
[03:21] <ktwohig9> ok, well I was just basing it on what he/she stated - they said they wanted to run Ubuntu as well as win 7, which they already have installed. just figured go the easy route instead of virtual boxing, since Wubi works well that way
[03:21] <ygor> ActionParsnip: someone suggested that to me.. =( cannot do it then..thanks mate
[03:21] <sagaci> Subha, should be already ticked, if not, click it and choose create new hard disk
[03:22] <Subha> it gives 4 options
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> agkdomo: cool, if you run:  sudo iwlist scan    do you see access points?
[03:22] <Subha> which one to choose?
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> ygor: could try, it costs nothing
[03:22] <sagaci> Subha, VDI
[03:22] <Drecondius>  You still there centHOGG
[03:22] <centHOGG> yeah
[03:22] <centHOGG> fix it
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> ygor: could just dd to the USB, then install grub to the stick
[03:22] <Drecondius> it was the molex to sata power cable
[03:22] <sagaci> Subha, dynamically allocated, but it doesn't really matter
[03:22] <Subha> dynamically allocated/fixed size?
[03:23] <Subha> then
[03:23] <agkdomo> ActionParsnip, it says Interface dosn't support scanning
[03:23] <sagaci> Subha, just next it until it's finished
[03:23] <centHOGG> kewl
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> agkdomo: I saw a guide ages ago, but I never tried it
[03:23] <sagaci> assuming you have 8GB+ free space
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> agkdomo: you could use remastersys and make your own  liveOS
[03:24] <Subha> no 4gb= :(
[03:24] <Jazzy0304> Hay
[03:24] <sagaci> Subha, well 4GB is enough
[03:24] <ygor> ActionParsnip: ok thanks..im making dd right now..then ill "burn" it to the flash drive with unetbooting
[03:24] <Subha> done, now virtualBox is open
[03:24] <bhrams> h
[03:24] <Subha> how to use it?
[03:24] <sagaci> Subha, does it need to be an installed system or can you use the LiveCD?
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> ygor: could also test it in virtualbox ;)
[03:25] <Subha> i can use the live cd
[03:25] <sagaci> Subha, well double click the option just create
[03:25] <sagaci> created*
[03:25] <ygor> ActionParsnip: on it !
[03:25] <thomad> My mic is realy quiet i basicly have to yell into it to make the smalles trecording
[03:25] <thomad> does anyone know why this could be
[03:25] <sagaci> Subha, should come up with a first run wizard
[03:25] <Tohuw> what does sendbytes: NAK Bailout mean if I see that when booting up? It loops continuously
[03:25] <Subha> i dont see.
[03:26] <Subha> live cd is already there in the tray
[03:26] <Subha> sud i insert again?
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> thomad: is it part of a laptop or a plug in mic?
[03:26] <sagaci> Subha, what's on the screen after you've double-clicked your VM option
[03:26] <Subha> it showed a summary, i clicked it
[03:26] <Subha> then now virtualBox is open
[03:27] <sagaci> Subha, anything else?
[03:27] <thomad> plugin
[03:27] <thomad> a standard 7mm jack
[03:27] <Subha> it shows sm info abut the name i gave "Subhantu" power off
[03:27] <sagaci> Subha, yeah, so double-click that
[03:28] <thomad> i am using pulse audio on ubuntu 11.04
[03:28] <Subha> Welcome to 1st run wizard
[03:28] <mahir256> thomad: usually the microphone has its own volume. check that.
[03:28] <blake> does anyone know a way to prevent the massive performance drop I get when I use xinerama? Cant stream Youtube video without it being choppy for example
[03:28] <sagaci> Subha, yippee
[03:28] <vercingetorix> hi, is their an applet for showing ram usage as text in the gnome-panel bar?
[03:28] <Subha> then?
[03:28] <sagaci> Subha, click next then select where your liveCd is
[03:29] <vercingetorix> i don't want that graph stuff, i just need a simple nubmer with %, with cpu as well, but not necassary
[03:29] <Subha> done
[03:29] <Subha> summary
[03:29] <dr_willis> vercingetorix:  the askubuntu.com site had a listing of indicator-applets   i recall there being some memory applets in thelist.
[03:29] <sagaci> Subha, then finish it
[03:29] <Subha> yes, done
[03:29] <thomad> mahir256: I checked that. Also do note a little while ago it was recording audio output wierdly.
[03:29] <sagaci> Subha, might take a while to boot
[03:29] <vercingetorix> ok will search there thanks dr_willis
[03:29] <Subha> yipee, its coming buddy :)
[03:29] <Subha> yes, booting
[03:30] <buhman> so what's this I hear about linus not liking ubuntu?
[03:30] <vercingetorix> buhman: do you ever give up man?
[03:30] <buhman> said something to the effect that you guys are evil
[03:30] <vercingetorix> ops, ban this guy
[03:30] <vercingetorix> he's been trolling all night
[03:30] <mahir256> !ot | buhman
[03:30] <terr> can the latest kubuntu version 10.10 run on a pentium 1?
[03:31] <Logan_> terr: The latest stable version of Kubuntu is 11.04.
[03:31] <Subha> sagaci, you there?
[03:31] <sagaci> Subha, yep
[03:31] <mahir256> thomad: then it's probably a hardware problem. get another microphone and see if your problems occur again.
[03:31] <dr_willis> terr:  should be able to.. may be a bit slow.  ram will also be a bbig factor
[03:31] <Subha> Ok, now i can use it right?
[03:32] <Subha> it will run like a normal app?
[03:32] <buhman> microsoft has contributed more to the kernel than canonical; doesn't that say something about just how much "freedom" ubuntu represents?
[03:32] <sagaci> Subha, no one is stopping you
[03:32] <JjC2011> !time
[03:32] <terr> dr_willis: says no "mov" instruction.
[03:32] <terr> what is version 10.10 then?
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> buhman: that is offtopic here
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> terr: maverick
[03:32] <centHOGG> verboten
[03:32] <Subha> Thanks a lot Sagaci, you are a life saver :)
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> buhman: chitchat about ubuntu is for #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:33] <dr_willis> terr:  time to perhaops find a disrto focused on older pcs then. I dont even have a pent 1 machine any more.
[03:33] <terr> ActionParsnip: I don't follow.
[03:33] <Logan_> !10.10 | terr
[03:33] <bonez2046> any ecrypt users here? I installed ecrypt on my system some time ago, can't remember my login password, for ecrypt.. should I just remove and then reinstall ? how can I recover this?
[03:33] <terr> gotach
[03:33] <thomad> mahir256 this issue only started after i reinstalled 11.04
[03:33] <sagaci> Subha, you'll need to have the livecd if you need it again in the tray unless you install it
[03:33] <Subha> Sagaci, a small qn
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> terr: try lubuntu or puppy :)
[03:33] <dr_willis> terr:  for a low end box. Puppylinux, or tiny core linux, work very well.
[03:33] <terr> I'm trying to install kubuntu 10.,10 and thought it was the latest.
[03:33] <Logan_> terr: No, 11.04 is the latest.
[03:33] <Subha> i need to try it
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> terr: kde on low end hardware won't run well
[03:33] <dr_willis> terr:  the version # is the relesae date.. year/month
[03:34] <Subha> it shows 2 options
[03:34] <dr_willis> terr:  whats the actual specs on the machine?
[03:34] <Subha> sagaci
[03:34] <sagaci> Subha, yep, try
[03:34] <terr> dr_willis: its not going to run on this machine.  I just want to use it for the install b4 I put it into my desktop which I'm already using as I write this.
[03:34] <buhman> you know linus has a thing or two to say about kde and gnome as well
[03:34] <mahir256> thomad: ever tried reinstalling the audio drivers? perhaps your install was corrupted. just thinkin'
[03:34] <Subha> ok
[03:34]  * centHOGG yawn
[03:34] <mahir256> buhman: shut up! (i do feel a need to say that)
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> buhman: everyone is a critic
[03:34] <vercingetorix> how to show type headers for ps aux ?
[03:35] <buhman> ActionParsnip: but who more authoritative than linus torvalds himself
[03:35] <vercingetorix> like when i run the command, to have it listed by process name, ram usage, etc so i know what the nubmers i'm looking at mean
[03:35] <sanduz2> anyone know when the ubuntu rolling release is coming out?
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> buhman: the community is a level playing field
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> sanduz2: never
[03:35] <dr_willis> sanduz2:  its just rumor/discussion last i heard..
[03:35] <idlemind> i do like how linus wanted a 2.x gnome branch to be started up
[03:35] <buhman> and linus is the *boss*
[03:35] <centHOGG> i hear torvalds really hates linux.... (original troll)
[03:35] <dr_willis> buhman:  take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:35] <sanduz2> dr_willis, oh, ok thanks
[03:36] <snufft> any takers on my networking problem?
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> buhman: no, he just started teh kernel project...
[03:36] <Subha> It came sagaci, thanks a ton!
[03:36] <buhman> ActionParsnip: "started"?
[03:36] <sagaci> Subha, no problem
[03:36] <Subha> anything u 'd like to tell me. my 1st ubuntu exp
[03:36] <buhman> ActionParsnip: quite the contrary
[03:36] <terr> I'm here:  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download and I do nto see an option to download an 1104 kubuntu .iso
[03:37] <dr_willis> !download
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> buhman: look, I've got better stuff to do. You have also been told that it is offtopic here, this is support only
[03:37] <thomad> mahir256 how would i go about reinstalling the drivers?
[03:37] <sagaci> buhman, it's free software buddy, you aren't required to give back if you don't want to... offtopic
[03:37] <Logan_> terr: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download#download-block
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> buhman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds   states: born December 28, 1969 in Helsinki, Finland) is a Finnish[2][5] software engineer and hacker, best known for having initiated the development of the Linux kernel
[03:38] <th0r> ActionParsnip: I have buhman on /ignore, please don't feed him
[03:38] <buhman> ActionParsnip: he's the facist dictator of it's development too; that statement is misleading
[03:38] <centHOGG> dwink
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> buhman: ko i heard your reply, welcome to ignore
[03:39] <FoxtrotZero> Alright, I'm at another hard spot
[03:40] <terr> I see ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso but I want kubuntu
[03:40] <JjC2011> Empathy or XChat, which would you recommend to me!?
[03:40] <terr> I presume ubuntu ius running gnome?
[03:40] <Logan_> terr: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download#download-block
[03:40] <Logan_> terr: Yes.
[03:40] <dr_willis>  http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download#download-block
[03:40] <Logan_> Well, Unity is the default.
[03:40] <Logan_> dr_willis: :P
[03:41] <terr> what is the long term support option?
[03:41] <Logan_> 11.04
[03:41] <Logan_> er
[03:41] <Logan_> 10.04
[03:41] <FoxtrotZero> So I freshly defragged my drive, and now GParted is telling me that C:/ (sda1) has bad sectors. Now i've known about this for a while, but it's never, ever given me trouble before. Now it says I can "resize NTFS safely by additionally using the -bad-sectors option of ntfsresize." How do I use the -bad-sectors option of ntfsresize?
[03:41] <centHOGG> lts rox
[03:41] <dr_willis> !lts | terr
[03:42] <mahir256> JjC2011: empathy, though i do support miranda im. it's an off-topic question, but I believe you will exit this channel if you have nothing else relevant to say
[03:42] <goodnerd> hello
[03:42] <terr> dr_willis: what support does the desktop version get?  Whats the distinction?
[03:42] <goodnerd> hey does anyone know about buffer overflows ?
[03:42] <thomad> mahir256 how would i go about reinstalling the drivers?
[03:43] <th0r> goodnerd: yes
[03:44] <terr> goodnerd: sure.  they are easy to do.  Just do stupid suitff with fread()
[03:44] <mahir256> thomad: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[03:44] <dr_willis> terr:  i always go with the latest. :)
[03:44] <ActionParsnip> I always go with the alpha if it's available :)
[03:44] <dr_willis> terr:  if you were a business or some other speicalized needs you may want lts.
[03:44] <FoxtrotZero> Sorry, i'm back. Did anyone have an answer to my question?
[03:44] <goodnerd> terr i'm trying to get a program to bof its for my it security class but i can't get it
[03:44] <goodnerd> i've been working on it for two days
[03:44] <bonez2046> ecryptfs? any ecryptfs users?
[03:45] <dr_willis> FoxtrotZero:  what version of windows?
[03:45] <terr> dr_willis: I do run a business but I'm also a developer.
[03:45] <FoxtrotZero> Windows XP Media Center Edition, Service Pack 3
[03:45] <centHOGG> <xbmc
[03:45] <dr_willis> terr:  then you may want to do some research on if LTS is rigth for you.
[03:45] <FoxtrotZero> dr_willis WinXP Media Center SP3
[03:45] <terr> goodnerd: in c, char blah(80); fread() where the record is undefined
[03:46] <dr_willis> FoxtrotZero:  old skool. :) heh.   well i was going to mention that Win7 - has a nice feature to resize itself.. but that dont apply here.,
[03:47] <terr> dr_willis: will the desktop version in general be more advanced?
[03:47] <FoxtrotZero> dr_willis Like I said, according to GParted there's some way for it to just ignore the bad sector - it seems like it won't resize more than a few hundred MiB because of it - but I don't know a damned thing about this program.
[03:47] <mahir256> FoxtrotZero: use the typical invocation of ntfsresize, just put -bad-sectors at the end. i have not needed to resize an ntfs partition, but http://linux.die.net/man/8/ntfsresize should help
[03:48] <dr_willis> terr:  more advanced then what?
[03:48] <FoxtrotZero> mahir256: This is a GUI, not a CLI. Should I be using a CLI for this to work?
[03:48] <terr> goodnerd: look at fread()  it reads size*nmemb bytes or whatever it can and if you make ptr too small you get a buffer overflow
[03:48] <terr> dr_willis: which is more advanced?  destop version or lts version?
[03:48] <dr_willis> FoxtrotZero:  ive never used that option.   gpated is a front end to ntfsresize - you might  to just use ntfsresize from the cli.
[03:49] <dr_willis> terr:  there is a desktop lts and a desktop non-lts
[03:49] <goodnerd> the question asks to get a certain number
[03:49] <dr_willis> terr:  i would say just go get the latest desktop version and be done with it.
[03:49] <goodnerd> i've only been able to get other numbers
[03:49] <goodnerd> so i know i'm effecting it
[03:49] <mahir256> FoxtrotZero: not necessarily; gparted.sf.net/larry/resize/resizing.htm seems to give a solution to your problem
[03:49] <goodnerd> just not correctly =\
[03:49] <sagaci> terr, 11.04 is the latest normal release and 10.04 is the latest LTS
[03:50] <MGParisi_Linux> hey, how do i get the close, minimize and maximize buttons to be on the right of the window (kinda like on windows)... all of the themes show it on the right:(
[03:50] <terr> dr_willis: I'm fetching the desktop version.
[03:50] <goodnerd> terr: can i show you the code ?
[03:50] <dr_willis> !controls | MGParisi_Linux
[03:50] <terr> it says 11.04 is supported to oct 2012 and 11.04lts is supported to april 2013
[03:51] <terr> goodnerd how about just the declaration and fread()
[03:51] <dr_willis> terr:   and by the time 2013 gets here there will be several non-lts releases.. :)
[03:51] <terr> dr_willis: and I can probably just upgrade between now and then.
[03:51] <Tohuw> 2.6.28-11-server returns i2c i2c-2 sendbytes: NAK bailout on booting. It loops until system halt and prevents logging in even in single-user mode. What is this?
[03:52] <jumoit> hey, folks, i got such message, saying "httpd: command not found", after getting apache2 installed within ubuntu 10.04. so, what then??
[03:52] <dr_willis> terr:  you can do whatever you want.  if its imporntant to you to be up to date with the latest kernel.. or  not and so on.
[03:52] <MGParisi_Linux> dr_willis, thanks:)
[03:52] <goodnerd> is that scanf in C ?
[03:52] <terr> dr_willis: its really not important to me since I've not upgraded since debian sarge!
[03:52] <goodnerd> i don't see any fread
[03:53] <terr> dr_willis: I look for something stable first.  I'm not too interested in testing unless I have to.
[03:53] <FoxtrotZero> Sorry, nobody has yet to explain the solution in a way I can understand.
[03:53] <terr> I see it has rekong as the web browser in 11.04 and konquerer in lts
[03:54] <terr> dr_willis: that isn't really relevent to me since I'll install firewfox.
[03:54] <goodnerd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/692053/
[03:54] <FoxtrotZero> I'll try opening GParted in a CLI, and see what I can do from there?
[03:54] <goodnerd> ^ there it is if you'd like to see
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> FoxtrotZero: run:  gksudo gparted    see what it says
[03:56] <FoxtrotZero> No, still lost. Can anyone shed further light on the issue?
[03:56] <Nautilus> is Clnoezilla a good way to backup an Ubuntu partition (and restore from later)?
[03:56] <Nautilus> Clonezilla*
[03:57] <subha> hi all
[03:57] <noobie25> I get the following error when running wine on ubuntu:   /////Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 275.19,
[03:57] <noobie25> but this NVIDIA driver component has version 275.21.  Please make
[03:57] <noobie25> sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components
[03:57] <noobie25> have the same version.
[03:57] <FloodBot1> noobie25: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:57] <subha> can anyone help me how to access my g drive from ubuntu?
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> noobie25: reinstall the driver package, should help
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> subha: what is 'g drive'?
[03:58] <noobie25> ActionParsnip, how do i reinstall the driver package?   sorry i'm new
[03:58] <dr_willis> subha:  you should be able to get to it from the file manager places menu, or mount it via  the proper mount, or ntfs-3g command then get to it.
[03:58] <dr_willis> !ntfs
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> noobie25: run:  dpkg -l | grep nvidia    you will probably see nvidia-275   if this is the case, run:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-275
[03:58] <subha> actually im using both windows and ubuntu. Ubuntu in VM Virtual box
[03:58] <noobie25> ActionParsnip, Thank yOU sir...let me try that
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> subha: how did you install ubuntu as well?
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> subha: ok, well answered
[03:59] <subha> VirtualBox, live CD
[04:00] <subha> in my  g drive i have a folder, and how i need to access that in ubuntu?
[04:00] <dr_willis> subha:  then you want to set up some share on the windows side to share the drive to the linux side.
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> subha: You can set the folders as accessible in virtualbox (it's in the boxes config), or you can share the 'g drive', use a bridged network card and access the share like you would from another PC on your LAN
[04:00] <subha> how to do that?
[04:00] <dr_willis> right click on the g: shareing ,menu item in windows...
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> subha: websearch, you'll find guides using the direction we just gave. Their is #vbox which is more specific to your needs
[04:01] <dr_willis> vbox has its own special kind of share also. like ActionParsnip  is mentioning. its documented in the vbox manual.
[04:01] <subha> well thank, but this is regarding ubuntu
[04:01] <dr_willis> subha:  of it its just for some quick transfers. install ssh server on linux side. and winscp on windows side. and copy files over
[04:01] <subha> pls just help how to access that file
[04:02] <FoxtrotZero> I still haven't gotten it fixed, so i'll repeat my issue in the hope that someone can help me. According to GParted, my disk has a bad sector, which I need it to work around so that I can shrink the partition. It says I can "resize NTFS safely by additionally using the -bad-sectors option of ntfsresize."
[04:02] <centHOGG> FoxtrotZero: what does SMART #4 say about that drive physically
[04:02] <dr_willis> subha:  you dont use vbox to access the hard drive directly. You set up some sort of share to share it with the linux os.
[04:03] <subha> actually i dont need to copy that file, i need to install a software from my hard drive in ubuntu environ
[04:03] <FoxtrotZero> centHOGG: I don't know what SMART #4 is. Perhaps you can elaborate?
[04:03] <centHOGG> under administration there is "disk admin" which can run the smart diags on that hdd
[04:03] <subha> the file is located in in the G:\
[04:03] <dr_willis> subha:  you can copy it over via winscp/ssh then run it on the linux side.  would be the quickest way.
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> subha: http://www.mydigitallife.info/how-to-access-windows-host-shared-folders-from-linux-ubuntu-guest-os-virtual-machine/
[04:03] <FoxtrotZero> centHogg: I'll take a look
[04:03] <centHOGG> section #4
[04:04] <[deXter]> FoxtrotZero: It's not a good idea to resize partitions which have bad sectors; a better and faster option is to backup your data to an external drive, delete all partitions on your drive and then partition around the bad region (leave plenty of room around it, atleast a 2-3 GBs)
[04:04] <Nautilus> is Clnoezilla a good way to backup an Ubuntu partition (and restore from later)?
[04:04] <subha> how to do that, this is my 1st time in ubuntu, pardon my ignorance
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> Nautilus: yes, that's its job
[04:04] <dr_willis> subha:  install open ssh server on linxiu side.. and winscp on windows side.. as i said earlier.
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> subha: I gave you a link!
[04:04] <Nautilus> ActionParsnip: cool, thought so, just sanity checking :)
[04:04] <FoxtrotZero> centHOGG: I've got disk utility, not a disk admin...
[04:04] <dr_willis> or go the share route. :)
[04:05] <centHOGG> ok good use it
[04:05] <subha> yes, buit do i need to share the same folder from windows?
[04:05] <terr> [deXter]: doesn't the controller map pout bad sectors?  SCSI controllers use to do that AFAIK
[04:05] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[04:05] <FoxtrotZero> [deXter] Yes, I understand that would be a good idea. It's also not something i'm capable of doing. I have no external drive to backup to, and i'm just too damned skiddish to delete my partitions even if I could.
[04:05] <Tetracomm> How can I dim the monitor in Ubuntu?
[04:05] <[deXter]> terr: Yes but if the drive is quite bad then the bad sector pool runs out
[04:06] <dr_willis> subha:  you whould share the g: or folder to some share name. then accessit from ubuntu as you would any other samba share.
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> subha: the link I gave walks you through it step by step
[04:06] <terr> [deXter]: ah!  how much has he lost?
[04:06] <[deXter]> terr: I don't think he's lost any data (yet),
[04:07] <Nautilus> resizing w/o a backup is a good way to lose data
[04:07] <terr> [deXter]: how much space?  Good his data lives
[04:07] <[deXter]> FoxtrotZero: I would first suggest running your HDD manufacturer's disk diagnostics utility and do a full disk scan
[04:07] <terr> Nautilus: its insane to chance it.
[04:07] <pirate> Hi everyone
[04:07] <pirate> Umm, is there a website that can help me interpret SMART readouts? I'm used to windows (Using SpeedFan to check SMART) and it usually gave me a bit more human readable output(progress bars)
[04:07] <FoxtrotZero> [dexter] and terr, I haven't lost any data. Like I said, the bad sector problem has existed for a long time and not worsened. It wasn't even something I thought about before I was trying to resize partitions.
[04:07] <subha> sure, thanks buddy, let me take a look
[04:07] <terr> FoxtrotZero: I would first suggest a backup
[04:08] <pirate> I have the readout, but I'm not sure what the numbers mean. I also have two 'type' values listed as pre_fail
[04:08] <[deXter]> FoxtrotZero: The utility will tell you if it was able to fix the bad sectors or not. If it wasn't able to, then I would suggest taking a backup ASAP and start saving up to buy a replacement drive.. (they're cheap nowadays)
[04:08] <terr> FoxtrotZero: how big is the disk?  Whats a replacement worth?  Can you afford one?
[04:08] <Nautilus> pirate maybe smartmontools has a chart or something more than the raw numbers, IIRC
[04:08] <FoxtrotZero> terr [dexter], I'm aware I should run diagnostics and I should run a backup. And I don't want to come across as jerkish, because I appreciate your assistance. But what i'm looking for is how to resize partitions. Acquiring a new drive is absolutely out of the question.
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> pirate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T  has readouts..
[04:09] <terr> FoxtrotZero: you need to have a backup plan anyways.  How much data?
[04:09] <Nautilus> pirate: one of the first things I look at is Reallocated sectors. is it 0?
[04:09] <pirate> I can't believe I didn't check wiki, thanks.
[04:09] <[deXter]> FoxtrotZero: And I say it's not wise to resize before you run diagnostics
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> pirate: ALWAYS check wikipedia first
[04:10] <centHOGG> bad sectors = why bother
[04:10] <pirate> ActionParsnip:  Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> pirate: for standard stuff like that, wikipedia will tell you everything
[04:10] <FoxtrotZero> terr: I don't know how much data is actually on the drive. I do have a crude but effective method of saving the files I particularly care about. So it's not like i'm in danger of losing everything.
[04:10] <Nautilus> pirate: I think the last 0 is the pertinent number there. good initial sign
[04:11] <FoxtrotZero> [dexter], if you insist that much, i'd be perfectly willing to run a disk diagnostic. If you can explain to me how to run a disk diagnostic.
[04:11] <terr> FoxtrotZero: but hey make your life easy
[04:11] <pirate> That's a breath of better air, was getting quite worried.
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> pirate: is it an SSD?
[04:11] <Nautilus> pirate: so long as 0x32 isnt the reallocated sector count
[04:11] <Sebasti3n> hi, i am running ubuntu 10.04 and i would like to run the existing windows XP on this desktop with virtualbox, but its asking me to install it. how could i do that ?
[04:11] <axel-san> hi guys, can anyone help me with a specific thing?
[04:11] <pirate> oh, wait. so values go up to 200 it seems, but 200 is... GOOD?
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> pirate: is the drive an SSD?
[04:12] <[deXter]> FoxtrotZero: Just go to your HDD manufacturer's website, look in the support / downloads section and look for a diagnostics utility.. usually it's a .ISO file which you  can burn to a CD (or make a bootable USB out of it), boot your computer from the CD/USB and then start the scan
[04:12] <terr> FoxtrotZero: if you were in Calgary I could give you a bunch of disks but they are old scsi ones.  Still work and up to about 36 gb
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> axel-san: ask the channel and it will reply if it can
[04:12] <pirate> ActionParsnip: nope, regular sized internal mechanical drive
[04:12] <FoxtrotZero> Terr, just how exactly do you suggest I back up this data? I have no external drives whatsoever, and the only internet-based solution that I know of only gives me the 2GB that i'm working with. If I had the money to put into an internet-based backup solution, I would just have better hardware.
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> Sebasti3n: there is a way for virtualbox to run a regular installed OS
[04:12] <dr_willis> FoxtrotZero:  ubuntu one is 5gb now :)
[04:13] <FoxtrotZero> Terr: Calgary? That's somewhere in the UK or Ireland, right? I'm quite far away from there.
[04:13] <FoxtrotZero> dr_willis: Huh?
[04:13] <Nautilus> You'd have some swimming to get to Calgary from UK
[04:13] <Nautilus> and a buttload of walking
[04:13] <noobie25> ActionParsnip, i upgraded the nvidia drivers as you requested, but I still get the API error.  The Kernel version > driver component.  API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 280.13.    NVIDIA driver component has version 275.21
[04:13] <terr> FoxtrotZero: ya - that is an issue.  I have about 160 gb on my server
[04:13] <axel-san> hi, I want to know if anyone has trouble using scrolling in ubuntu with a touchscreen
[04:13] <triunity> Hey I am writting a program to fix minor issues with wireless, stuff like test firewall settings, test http access, eth0 and wlan0 status, and fix issues with said tests.  But my knowledge stems from windows, and i was wondering what linux networking issues people seem to have.
[04:13] <terr> FoxtrotZero: issue is that would sap a whole months' bandwidth
[04:14] <dr_willis> FoxtrotZero:  backup whats critical to ubuntuone or some other dropbox type site.. and gamble on the rest staying  there.
[04:14] <terr> FoxtrotZero: how about your friends?
[04:14] <noobie25> ActionParsnip,  would you have any tips on something else i can try?  also, could it be that my repository is not updated or something?
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> Sebasti3n: http://www.qc4blog.com/?p=483
[04:14] <SIFTU> FoxtrotZero: you can get up to 10Gb free on dropbox
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> Sebasti3n: i've heard it can cause data corruption though
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> noobie25: could uninstall then reinstall the driver
[04:15] <noobie25> ActionParsnip,  how do i uninstall?   also, when i reinstall ... do i use the same commands you asked me to do?
[04:15] <terr> FoxtrotZero: how many gb's is your drive?
[04:15] <FoxtrotZero> Terr: I appreciate the sentiment. My friends aren't exactly tech-savvy, trust me, none of them have solutions. Dr_willis, I'm actually working with the partitions so I can install Ubuntu: I'm still technically WinXP based, and I have an (undamaged) D drive with System Restore information in it. And SIFTU, I am using Dropbox, but you only get 2GB free: You can get more, but you have to get a...
[04:15] <FoxtrotZero> ...bunch of referrals.
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: minus is 10Gb free
[04:16] <terr> FoxtrotZero: how many gb's is your drive?  I might be able to help you
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> noobie25: use the additional drivers app to remove them
[04:16] <SIFTU> FoxtrotZero: yeah nothing a script wont fix :)
[04:16] <FoxtrotZero> Terr: Its a 200GB drive, but on my C:, I only have somewhere around... 40GB used? And it's really just my files I care about, which like i've said, i've managed to cram into a 2GB backup.
[04:16] <pirate> Thank you so much for all the helpful info and pointers, everyone! One more last novice question: Is it safe to say, browse the web while running the extended self-test or should I let the machine idle?
[04:16] <terr> FoxtrotZero: I could put myu DLT on the net.  It will hold 70 GB
[04:17] <FoxtrotZero> SIFTU, i've tried things of the sort to little avail. If you're willing to help me out with that problem, i'd be grateful.
[04:17] <noobie25> ActionParsnip, thanks you sir
[04:17] <FoxtrotZero> Terr: DLT? What might that be?
[04:17] <Tetracomm> How can I dim the monitor in Ubuntu?
[04:17] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip:  i dident see where minus let you just upload anything however.. been toying with it on my android.
[04:17] <centHOGG> controls on the monitor?
[04:17] <axel-san> Guys, do you know how I can enable scrolling in utouch??
[04:18] <FoxtrotZero> terr: Of course, the problem really isn't backing up. Like i've said, i'm not really concerned with data loss. [dexter] still wants me to run diagnostics, though.
[04:18] <terr> FoxtrotZero: Digital Linear Tape.  Its a DLT7000 - originally cost about $5,000.  I use to sell them.  Those were the cheap drives!  Expensive ones were 3590.
[04:18] <terr> FoxtrotZero: I found it in a pawn shop for $25 bux... with a tape full of tax returns.
[04:18] <terr> FoxtrotZero: I think [deXter] has good advise
[04:18] <FoxtrotZero> terr: So I could store my data on your device in Calgary. Right.
[04:19] <[deXter]> FoxtrotZero: HDD diagnostics utilities can remap the bad sector to a spare sector from the sector pool; also you get a clear idea of the extent of damage.
[04:19] <centHOGG> heh
[04:19] <terr> FoxtrotZero: yes.  I could just turn it on and you would have to laod the files into one of my servers and I'd fire it out to the tape.  IF the tape is needed I'll justoverwrite it.
[04:20] <terr> Look on ebay... out of curiosity and see if you can find something like a DLT 7000 or DLT 8000.
[04:20] <centHOGG> spending money on obsolete tech\
[04:20] <terr> They are pretty good.  I like tape because we're still reading tape recorded in the1960's.
[04:20] <FoxtrotZero> terr: [deXter] has great advice. I just didn't want to follow it. But i'm going to close out of this ubuntu trial - i'm running it off of a 700MB CDR - and go look up that diagnostics stuff. Once i'm back in WinXP I can get back in IRC.
[04:20] <terr> FoxtrotZero: I've done a lot in the geophysics area.
[04:21] <FoxtrotZero> Terr: I can't legally do that. I'm a minor. An unemployed and poorly financed minor. Which, I assure you, is the only reason I don't have a much better rig than this piece of crap.
[04:21] <FoxtrotZero> BRB
[04:21] <terr> FoxtrotZero: no worries
[04:21] <pirate> I dunno, obsolete tech that gets me more than a TB for ~30USD or less isn't too bad for backups. Seek times are, though.
[04:21] <jumoit> hey, folks, i got such message, saying "httpd: command not found", after getting apache2 installed within ubuntu 10.04. so, what then??:-(
[04:21] <terr> Foxmaster: in Canda a minor can buy anything they want.  Its the merchant who can't stick the minor with the contract
[04:22] <pirate> Personally I wish I had a tape drive =P Initial investment was too much the last time I looked into it.
[04:22] <terr> pirate: I'll sel you one.  But I'm in Calgary
[04:22] <dr_willis> i tried tape drive ages ago.. :) redundant stack of exteral usb hard drives.. does what i need.
[04:22] <terr> pirate: I have about 100 exabytes too.
[04:22] <pirate> lol!
[04:22] <goodnerd> terr did you ever look at that code ?
[04:23] <pirate> Might take you up on that once I get a paycheck.
[04:23] <terr> dr_willis: much better idea too - except in 10 years you won't find a machine you can plug it into
[04:23] <terr> goodnerd: remind me please.  No - I misssed it
[04:24] <terr> dr_willis: I have been able to read in Linux exabyte tapes recorded on a SUN in the 1980's.
[04:24] <terr> Course I've got the drives.
[04:24] <RudyValencia> Is Wine any better at running Windows programs on Ubuntu these days?
[04:24] <goodnerd> terr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/692053/
[04:24] <buhman> RudyValencia: most likely
[04:25] <buhman> are windows programs getting easier for wine to run? probably not
[04:25] <RudyValencia> I'm thinking I might try it
[04:25] <terr> dr_willis: these days we don't even know how to backup the big disc system... I mean my buddy Carmine has likely 100 TB installed... maybe 1000 TB.
[04:26] <buhman> RudyValencia: you can forget running any game that requires >dx9.0a
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> terr: That's it?
[04:26] <RudyValencia> Does City of Heroes run?
[04:26] <terr> goodnerd: your lookup in insane.
[04:26] <SIFTU> terr: snapshots & replication of the deltas
[04:26] <terr> SIFTU: ??
[04:26] <terr> ActionParsnip: ??
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> terr: dude, we sling backups of 500Tb an HOUR betwen our 2 main DCs
[04:27] <RudyValencia> Hm, I probably oughta wait until 11.10 comes out.
[04:27] <goodnerd> terr: do you see how to do a bof on that ?
[04:27] <goodnerd> i'm trying to get it to where there is no commison
[04:27] <terr> ActionParsnip: I'd like to know how.
[04:27] <buhman> generalization: any game that can flip between dx and opengl will work ok
[04:27] <RudyValencia> ah
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> terr: multiple leased lines
[04:27] <pirate> Thanks again everyone~
[04:27] <buhman> RudyValencia: WoW is one such example (horrible game, but it runs well on wine)
[04:27] <terr> ActionParsnip: I'm serious.  Carmine runs a geophysical shop and he just hauls out the old drives and sticks them on a shelf.
[04:27] <[deXter]> Horrible game? O.o
[04:28] <RudyValencia> I think City of Heroes uses OpenGL
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> terr: makes sense, I like it. Old and grity
[04:28] <RudyValencia> If I don't install nVidia drivers it says something about "GL_ARB_MULTITEXTURE" being unsupported IIRC
[04:28] <terr> ActionParsnip: backup isn't really the problem.  Getting the data into the HDD"s is the problem.
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> terr: oh god yes
[04:28] <terr> ActionParsnip: I don't think he runs fiber at this time
[04:29] <buhman> RudyValencia: it being ported to OSX seems that that might more than likely be the case; however portal (and other games on that same engine) are a great counter-example
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> terr: than all the alerts for excessive IO and we all sit there thinking "yes, We know"
[04:29] <buhman> RudyValencia: where you aren't allowed to select opengl rendering on windows
[04:29] <RudyValencia> ah
[04:29] <terr> ActionParsnip: that data comes off old tapes... 9 track, 3480, 3490  mostly... some 3590
[04:29] <ArNezT> ada yg indonesia disini?
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> terr: ahh, this is all disk to disk over optical fibre
[04:29] <terr> ActionParsnip: he jsut installed a 128 cpu system
[04:30] <terr> ActionParsnip: I gathered that.
[04:30] <rww> !id | ArNezT
[04:30] <peeps[lappy]> hi, i'm having some trouble with my laptop screen backlight brightness settings.  I have a thinkpad w510, and when I hit the keyboard keys to change brightness (Fn + Home/End) it shows a brightness bar OSD, but the actual screen brightness is not affected
[04:31] <SIFTU> terr: most places do it at the SAN/NAS level.. you take a snapshot (online) of the filesystem the difference is transferred from the last snapshot.
[04:31] <ArNezT> ubottu, makasih bro..
[04:31] <peeps[lappy]> any ideas what I can do?
[04:31] <terr> ActionParsnip: I had to laugh.. their 128 cpu box was too loud.  So they went to Home Depot and bought a garden sehd.  Then they had to insulate it.  Then they had to go buy an A/C for their shed - which is in the office!
[04:31] <terr> SIFTU: in this case they already have copies of the data before its loaded into the HDD's... it just takes so long to read the data in.
[04:32] <terr> SIFTU: like on a 3490 they might have a pallet of tapes.
[04:32] <terr> goodnerd are you here?
[04:33] <SIFTU> terr: yeah but a backup which takes months to restore isnt a good backup IMHO
[04:34] <jumoit> hi, folks around here...why can't i get a hand for the question i asked before this, which is "can't run 'httpd' from the terminal after getting apache2 installed within ubuntu 10.04"??? :(
[04:34] <terr> SIFTU: their "backup" is what they read the data from.
[04:35] <llutz_> jumoit: sudo service apache2 start
[04:35] <SIFTU> terr: so how long does it take to restore if the disk system goes down?
[04:36] <terr> SIFTU: I don't know.  It doesn't happen very often and they just reload it as if it ahd never been loaded b4
[04:37] <terr> SIFTU: I suspec tthey have more than 120,000 tapes loaded.  We have warehouses with 60,000 tapes.
[04:37] <terr> SIFTU: I can ask but they likely won't even know.
[04:37] <jumoit> llutz_, thanks for your helps.still not run "httpd  -S" from the terminal after restart apache2 like you said....
[04:37] <SIFTU> terr: ok, just sounded like it took a long time.. which means they cant use that data until its restored.. which sounds like it could takes months
[04:38] <terr> SIFTU: well these are mnultiple jobs.
[04:38] <llutz_> jumoit: you don't start httpd directly
[04:38] <terr> SIFTU: I know when the 9GB's first came out and were $5,000 each I use to sell all I could lay my hot hands on.
[04:39] <jumoit> llutz_, yeah, got it. but, what should i do to run "httpd" redirectly??
[04:40] <terr> SIFTU: if there is a way to copy the data from a modren disk to some other storage media then we're real insterested./.. but I don't think there is anything at this time.
[04:40] <llutz_> jumoit: sudo service apache2 start/stop/restart/status      change options in /etc/default or /etc/apache2/*
[04:40] <terr> SIFTU: you would have to know how to read seg-d to do it
[04:41] <SIFTU> terr: its getting off topic.. PM me if you wish to discuss
[04:41] <terr> SIFTU: some of that data is in IBM360 FLOAT notation and you would have to swap it to IEEE.  Some of it is in Digital Equipment FLOAT too.
[04:42] <jumoit> llutz_, yeah, yeah, i see. and then, i will try...thanks a lot. :)
[04:42] <terr> SIFTU: lets get on to things which are productive.
[04:42] <terr> too bad goodnerd isn't here.
[04:43] <FoxtrotZero> Is [dexter] still here?
[04:43] <[deXter]> FoxtrotZero: ?
[04:44] <FoxtrotZero> I've got diagnostic software for my HDD in .iso and .exe forms. Do your reccomend a particular one?
[04:44] <terr> FoxtrotZero: wish you were here buddy.  I'd get you to install ubuntu for me.
[04:45] <FoxtrotZero> terr: lolwhy? I've been at it pretty much all day?
[04:45] <[deXter]> FoxtrotZero: Just burn the ISO to a disc
[04:45] <clickwir> ISO
[04:45] <FoxtrotZero> Arrite.
[04:45] <terr> FoxtrotZero: well after I found a CD which worked and after I finally gave up on the idea of using an FDD then I find the CPU doesn't have an instruction which the kernel needs.
[04:46] <terr> FoxtrotZero: so now I have to clean out my garage and find out what CPU's I have out there.
[04:46] <FoxtrotZero> terr: >Garage full of computer hardware
[04:46] <FoxtrotZero> terr, I would kill to be you right now.
[04:46] <rapage> whyis my ubuntu taking some time to show the login screen after it has loaded the gui screen
[04:46] <rapage> it wasn't like this before
[04:46] <FoxtrotZero> And more importantly, terr, why would you have me do that?
[04:47] <terr> FoxtrotZero: meanwhile I have what appears to be two dead CD's and of course just the same as people keep dead pens in the same pen pen and live pens then I'll put these back on the shelf and hope they heal each other.
[04:47] <JjC2011> Has the latest stable release of Ubuntu fixed any or all problems related to the SATA hard/SSD drives in both the capacity & the peripherals?!
[04:47] <FoxtrotZero> Terr, I can only hope you label your CDs...
[04:48] <terr> FoxtrotZero: hey if you want to go to school here then pop over.  I can set you up with a room.. but I would have to charge some rent.
[04:48] <terr> FoxtrotZero: do you think I'm that smart?  I remember the position on the shelf.
[04:48] <FoxtrotZero> Terr: Hah, thanks, but that's not liable to happen, I assure you.
[04:48] <[deXter]> JjC2011: What problems?
[04:48] <terr> FoxtrotZero: then when I forget the fun starts.
[04:49] <rsteve> hello
[04:49] <st3v3n> !ops
[04:49] <rsteve> hey
[04:49] <terr> FoxtrotZero: stranger things have happened.  I had a model move in this summer
[04:49] <rsteve> hey
[04:49] <FoxtrotZero> Terr: Still, if you have some crap lying around, I wonder what the charge for Airmail to california is...
[04:49] <rsteve> what is going on in here
[04:49] <st3v3n> !ops
[04:49] <FoxtrotZero> Terr: A model? How did that turn out?
[04:49] <terr> FoxtrotZero: I'm looking to ship a lot to Texas
[04:50] <terr> FoxtrotZero: so far pretty good!
[04:50] <FoxtrotZero> You're about four states too far east XD
[04:50] <st3v3n> !ops
[04:50] <st3v3n> hello musteve
[04:50] <musteve> hello steve
[04:50] <rsteve> yes hello
[04:50] <rsteve> hello
[04:50] <rsteve> steve
[04:50] <st3v3n> hello steves
[04:50] <musteve> steves
[04:50] <rsteve> yes hello
[04:50] <rsteve> steve
[04:50] <FloodBot1> rsteve: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:50] <JjC2011> deXter:  I beleived it had a storage limitation of less than 1GB or so, & or it would be able to read/write all-together!?
[04:50] <rsteve> steve what is this
[04:51] <musteve> looks like steves are everywhere
[04:51] <rsteve> yes
[04:51] <rsteve> steve
[04:51] <freesteve> why don't you guys use linux
[04:51] <musteve> I do steve
[04:51] <rsteve> hello
[04:51] <musteve> Debian
[04:51] <musteve> is batter
[04:51] <rsteve> STEVES
[04:51] <rsteve> STEVES
[04:51] <terr> FoxtrotZero: where in CA do you live?
[04:51] <FloodBot1> rsteve: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:51] <rsteve> STEVES
[04:51] <dagmowi> i usually use cat <filename.file> | nc -l 2222 to move large files between computers, anyone know how I can pipe a directory to netcat?
[04:51] <FoxtrotZero> Terr: I'm in Diego.
[04:51] <freesteve> why don't you guys use linux
[04:51] <st3v3n> i use ubuntu
[04:51] <freesteve> why don't you guys use linux
[04:51] <rsteve> yes hello
[04:51] <terr> FoxtrotZero: so is sugardaddy
[04:51] <st3v3n> !ops
[04:51] <FoxtrotZero> Terr: So I know a guy IRL from Wales, and a girl in Scotland. What's it like in Ireland, then?
[04:52] <freesteve> why don't you guys use linux
[04:52] <terr> FoxtrotZero: she's German
[04:52] <centHOGG> heil
[04:52] <musteve> long live the steves
[04:52] <FoxtrotZero> Terr: The hell did Dexter have me put this on a disk for? The EXE would have saved me from using one of these useless disks.
[04:52] <freesteve> why don't you guys use linux
[04:52] <freesteve> why don't you guys use linux
[04:52] <freesteve> why don't you guys use linux
[04:52] <rsteve> RSTEVE IS ETVE,BUT WHAT IS STEVE?
[04:53] <FloodBot1> freesteve: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:53] <FoxtrotZero> Terr: Ere ist Deustch? Who is German? And yes, my German is horrible.
[04:53] <musteve> the steve discrimanatio
[04:53] <musteve> contiues
[04:53] <musteve> they hate us
[04:53] <musteve> because we are
[04:53] <terr> FoxtrotZero: mine is non existant
[04:53] <musteve> STEVE
[04:53] <FloodBot1> musteve: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:53] <terr> FoxtrotZero:  whats this flood test about?
[04:54] <freesteve> why don't you guys use linux
[04:54] <freesteve> why don't you guys use linux
[04:54] <freesteve> why don't you guys use linux
[04:54] <FloodBot1> freesteve: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:54] <rsteve> RSTEVE IS ETVE,BUT WHAT IS STEVE?
[04:54] <rsteve> RSTEVE IS ETVE,BUT WHAT IS STEVE?
[04:54] <FloodBot1> rsteve: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:54] <st3v3n> CIGARSEX - ALSO PENIS
[04:54] <st3v3n> CIGARSEX - ALSO PENIS
[04:54] <FloodBot1> st3v3n: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:54] <FoxtrotZero> Terr: So, am I supposed to boot the computer with this disk in the drive, like I do with the ubuntu disk? Also, I don't know.
[04:54] <FoxtrotZero> I'm going to try it. BRB.
[04:54] <freesteve> why don't you guys use linux
[04:54] <freesteve> why don't you guys use linux
[04:54] <freesteve> why don't you guys use linux
[04:54] <freesteve> why don't you guys use linux
[04:54] <freesteve> why don't you guys use linux
[04:54] <FloodBot1> freesteve: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:55] <Barridus> anyone know what the best remote protocol is the best and quickest to a windows 7 machine?
[04:56] <[deXter]> Barridus: RDP is the quickest
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> Barridus: use rdesktop, if its a home PC it will lock the local display
[04:57] <bananaphone> hi. can i tell nautilus to build all thumbnails for a certain folder?
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> Barridus: what are your intentions on the remote system?
[04:58] <lawrence> Hello room
[04:58] <lawrence> My system freezes/reboots randomly...please help
[04:59] <JjC2011> deXter: did you receive my last message to you?
[04:59] <Barridus> ActionParsnip, for lack of a better description, just to use it as if it was in front of me and do everything on it such as listening to music etc
[04:59] <Barridus> i'm mostly curious as to what the best protocol to use is in a client for the least lag
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> Barridus: you can share folders on the remote system then stream the music that way
[05:00] <Barridus> i wanna do more than that
[05:00] <[deXter]> JjC2011: I haven't heard of or had any such problems on the latest version.. I use it daily on many computers
[05:00] <Barridus> remoting in is the best option i just want to do it the most effectively
[05:01] <JjC2011> deXter:  I see...  I'll give it a try when I can!  Thanks!
[05:01] <vertevero> Just in case anyone was curious, what I was asking about was PLoP Boot Manager.
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> Barridus: vnc is ok over LAN
[05:02] <RadioTest> How do I connect to a IRC network not found in the xchat network list?
[05:02] <Barridus> isn't that a pay service, ActionParsnip
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> Barridus: no, its a standard protocol
[05:03] <[deXter]> RadioTest:  Open a new tab and type /server addressofyournetwork
[05:04] <RadioTest> thank you dexter
[05:04] <lawrence> My system freezes/reboots randomly...how can I stop this?
[05:07] <GoStumpy> Hey
[05:07] <GoStumpy> If testdisk gives me read errors at every cylinder it's analyzing, something is really wrong eh?
[05:08] <talntid2> or it is april fools day.
[05:08]  * GoStumpy checks computer's date
[05:08] <wildbat> GoStumpy: more like hardware error ~ the disk is failing may be .
[05:08] <GoStumpy> My neighbor gave the HDD to me because windows couldn't read it
[05:09] <GoStumpy> I figured maybe I could get it to work in Xubuntu with testdisk
[05:09] <GoStumpy> saved my old HDD that way
[05:09] <GoStumpy> but this one it seems like it can't read ANYTHING
[05:09] <GoStumpy> maybe the arm is broken or something
[05:09] <JjC2011> definitely failing!!
[05:09] <dr_willis> amazing hard drives work as well as they do. :)
[05:09] <dr_willis> did you even hear it spin up?
[05:09] <SIFTU> lawrence: what hardware?
[05:10] <GoStumpy> yeah
[05:10] <GoStumpy> I can feel it vibrating too
[05:10] <GoStumpy> lightly
[05:10] <GoStumpy> no real noise though
[05:10] <lawrence> AMD Athlon 64Bit 3000+
[05:10] <lawrence> SIFTU: AMD Athlon 64Bit 3000+
[05:10] <SIFTU> lawrence: hmm ok.. have you run memtest on it?
[05:11] <GoStumpy> "Partition: Read error"  like it can't even find the partitions
[05:11] <GoStumpy> odd.....
[05:11] <lawrence> SIFTU: Sorry no. I'm new, and don't know how to run a memtest
[05:12] <SIFTU> lawrence: the live cd has an option when you boot
[05:12] <Iwain> I'm having problems booting into ubuntu. It seems to install okay, but I can't start it up after that.
[05:13] <lawrence> SIFTU: I installed Ubuntu via USB
[05:13] <wildbat> GoStumpy: what is the odd ~ run a full SMART test and see ~
[05:14] <supersteven> any steves left?
[05:14] <SIFTU> lawrence: well you can install it and add it to grub
[05:16] <lawrence> SIFTU: I'm sorry, but if I understood you correctly, I need to install memtest app? - This is my first time with Ubuntu
[05:16] <GoStumpy> I wonder if a place like London Drugs can rescue a HDD like this?
[05:17] <JjC2011> lol
[05:17] <SIFTU> lawrence: yeah well it will do a memory diagnostics.. trying to find a doc for you.. the easiest way is the live CD
[05:18] <lawrence> Thank You SIFTU
[05:19] <Iwain> I just installed ubuntu on a new computer, but when I restarted it after the installation finished it booted into windows. Why does it not take me to the grub bootloader?
[05:19] <Axalon> I removed mistakenly removed part of the Me Menu, the part that shows your user name and your chat status. How do I re-enable that? I've looked everywhere in the Add to Panel menu but I just can't find it.
[05:19] <soreau> lawrence: Typically you can run the memtest from the live session overnight and see what it reports. It will automatically keep running the same test and keep all of the results
[05:20] <rocknblogger> For 3 days I have been trying to install a Linux distro. I started with Ubuntu and tried 4 others based on Ubuntu and was only successful with openSUSE. I still want to install Ubuntu but I continually get an error after the partition selection that the swap partition fales to mount. I've tried 2 different drives and both using my own partition setup and a full disk setup and still
[05:20] <rocknblogger>  nothing. Any suggestions?
[05:20] <soreau> rocknblogger: Using the same cd drive for all attempts?
[05:20] <rocknblogger> soreau yes
[05:21] <rocknblogger> soreau I've checked the drive and tested okay
[05:21] <soreau> rocknblogger: Did you run a memory test to check your system ram?
[05:21] <Jordan_U> rocknblogger: What is the exact error message Ubuntu gives you and when (during install, first boot after install...)?
[05:22] <rocknblogger> soreau Yes I've checked all my hardware. That was the first step I took in trying to troubleshoot
[05:22] <soreau> rocknblogger: Hopefully it isn't bad sector(s) on your hard drive
[05:23] <rocknblogger> Jordan_U The attempt to mount a file system with type swap in SCSI (0,1,0) partition#5 (sda) at none failed.
[05:23] <soreau> rocknblogger: suse might choose different location for swap
[05:24] <rocknblogger> soreau Yes I understand that but when choosing to install using teh entire disk doesn't the installer automatically create the partitions
[05:25] <rocknblogger> soreau I ALREADY TRIED TWO DIFFERENT DRIVES AND RUN A DISK UTILITY TO CHECK THE DRIVES, EVERYTHING CAME UP ROSES
[05:25] <rocknblogger> Sorry about the caps
[05:25] <soreau> rocknblogger: Yes but ubuntu variants may end up selecting the same sector(s) for swap while suse may just happen to use good sectors. Just a guess but an error like that I would suspect hardware problem(s)
[05:26] <soreau> Jordan_U: What say you? ;)
[05:26] <rocknblogger> soreau what are the odds the same sectors are bad on 2 different drives?
[05:26] <soreau> rocknblogger: not likely
[05:26] <rocknblogger> Iit seems that every ubuntu based distro fails
[05:27] <soreau> rocknblogger: I assume by '2 different drives', you mean hard drives, not cd rom drives
[05:27] <rocknblogger> Correct
[05:27] <soreau> rocknblogger: In that case, I'd try a different cdrom drive or usb if available
[05:28] <king-egg> kkk
[05:28] <king-egg> hello
[05:28] <soreau> hi king-egg..
[05:28] <king-egg> aha
[05:28] <rocknblogger> soreau Okay
[05:28] <Barridus> thanks for the vnc suggestion ActionParsnip
[05:29] <king-egg> where are you come form
[05:30] <soreau> rocknblogger: Of course by usb, I mean boot from a usb stick instead of a cdrom drive (provided you have a usb drive with enough space and your bios can boot from usb)
[05:30] <rocknblogger> soreau Yes I got that :)
[05:30] <king-egg> I am a chenese boy
[05:30] <soreau> ! usb | rocknblogger
[05:30] <soreau> ! cn | king-egg
[05:30] <rocknblogger> soreau Thnx
[05:30] <soreau> rocknblogger: np, gl
[05:32] <king-egg> I'm ET. And who are you?
[05:33] <soreau> king-egg: Please keep your comments related to ubuntu
[05:34] <ArNezT> !ping
[05:34] <ArNezT> !ping me
[05:36] <king-egg> I come from China wangwu mountain .
[05:37] <juniour> hi
[05:37] <juniour> every body
[05:37] <king-egg> Anyone know wangwu mountain?
[05:37] <rocknblogger> soreau Please take a look at this and see if it tells you anythimng. I tried booting a x64 Live Ubuntu CD http://cl.ly/2Y1C2s3L3C193d3O3q3D
[05:38] <centHOGG> uh not yet
[05:38] <wolffyy> google it.
[05:38] <king-egg> Chinese people with baidu.
[05:38] <soreau> rocknblogger: Seems to be loading very slowly. Try picpaste.com or speedyshare?
[05:40] <centHOGG> baidu = STD?
[05:40] <pocoyo> king-egg: 王屋山？
[05:40] <soreau> ! cn | pocoyo king-egg
[05:40] <pocoyo> soreau: thanks.
[05:41] <king-egg> The mountain wireless signal not.
[05:41] <rocknblogger> soreau here you go http://picpaste.com/crash-51i1ZgCY.jpg
[05:42] <Peter_Bilt> i god a plobrem
[05:43] <Peter_Bilt> how to allow sambastics traffic with UFW from a 10.42.43.0/24 net?
[05:43] <soreau> rocknblogger: kernel panic but kinda hard to read..
[05:43] <Peter_Bilt> how to allow any traffic with ufw on 10.42.43.0/24 because its a secure one
[05:43] <soreau> oh zoom..
[05:44] <rocknblogger> soreau Yeah I know sorry. WHat would a kernel panic point to?
[05:44] <soreau> rocknblogger: Looks like it might be your intel graphics..
[05:44] <rocknblogger> DOnt have intel graphics
[05:44] <king-egg> what's UFW?
[05:44] <dr_willis> !firewall
[05:44] <dr_willis> the ubuntu firewall config tool :)
[05:44] <rocknblogger> I have a GTX480 EVGA card
[05:44] <soreau> rocknblogger: Well that's not good then
[05:44] <fx_Vader> hey can anyone help me out in getting ncurses to work with eclipse + cdt?
[05:45] <rocknblogger> soreau what it is? The card or the report?
[05:45] <soreau> rocknblogger: The report.
[05:45] <rocknblogger> soreau WOuldn't have anything to do with teh CPU?
[05:46] <king-egg> You say is very good, but I couldn't understand a word.
[05:46] <soreau> rocknblogger: It may..
[05:46] <soreau> rocknblogger: It's a newer intel?
[05:46] <rocknblogger> soreau Sure i7
[05:47] <rapage> how do I update firefox on ubuntu 10
[05:47] <rapage> there is no update button
[05:47] <dr_willis> !firefox | rapage
[05:47] <king-egg> You say is very good, but I couldn't understand a word.
[05:47] <soreau> rocknblogger: I don't really know why it would panic and I can't read that backtrace to well
[05:47] <rocknblogger> Oh Sh#@t I just realized I overclocked it over a tear ago
[05:47] <dr_willis> rapage:  you use the package manager tools to handle that.
[05:47] <learner> not able to boot into windows after installing ubuntu10.10 any suggestions
[05:47] <soreau> rocknblogger: year ago?
[05:47] <rocknblogger> soreau would an overclocked processor give me a problem?
[05:48] <soreau> rocknblogger: yea try resetting it in bios settings
[05:48] <rocknblogger> soreau To install I mean
[05:48] <soreau> rocknblogger: definitely worth a shot
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> learner: try:  sudo apt-get install os-prober; sudo os-prober; sudo update-grub
[05:48] <rocknblogger> soreau Okay yeah that might be it. Crossing fingers ;)
[05:49] <learner> ActionParsnip, what is os prober?
[05:49] <soreau> bbiab
[05:49] <rocknblogger> soreau this thing was rock solid. Never a crash never a BSOD. So much so that I forgot about it
[05:50] <X-Hunter> how do i open a downloaded exe file
[05:50] <dr_willis> X-Hunter:  wine path/to/whatever.exe
[05:50] <dr_willis> !wine | X-Hunter
[05:50] <X-Hunter> oh seet
[05:50] <king-egg> I think than firefox IE powerful.
[05:51] <dr_willis> king-egg:  what?
[05:51] <Jordan_U> learner: Do you see the grub menu at boot?
[05:51] <Jordan_U> learner: Why did you install Ubuntu 10.10 rather than 11.04?
[05:52] <king-egg> firefox  is  very  powerful
[05:52] <learner> Jordan_U, Yes I am able to see the grub menu, I am even able to see the windows loading screen but it hangs after that
[05:53] <learner> Jordan_U, I tried 11.4 but its too buggy
[05:53] <Jordan_U> learner: If you're able to see the Windows loading screen then it's not really an Ubuntu problem. Try asking in ##windows.
[05:54] <king-egg> bye bye  .see late
[05:54] <g3rdi> hey, is there something currently wrong with the ubuntu sofware center?
[05:54] <learner> Jordan_U, I got this problem only after installling ubuntu
[05:57] <Jordan_U> learner: I would recommend using Ubuntu's "Disk Utility" (palimpsest) to check the S.M.A.R.T status of the drive and if that shows that the drive itself is good then anything else you would do to repair Windows would need to be done in a Windows environment and with help from ##windows.
[05:58] <synackfin> how do I install ubuntu on a 3TB drive?
[05:58] <Jordan_U> synackfin: Just run the installer as you normally would.
[05:58] <dr_willis> same as you would any other drive. You most likely want a / of like 20 gb and  most in /home/
[05:58] <learner> Jordan_U, Thanks
[05:58] <Jordan_U> learner: You're welcome.
[05:59] <synackfin> Jordan_U: aren't special steps required for disks > 2TB?
[05:59] <dr_willis> synackfin:  not that i have ever heard of.. jus try it and see?
[05:59] <Jordan_U> synackfin: No, it's all handled automatically.
[05:59] <JjC2011> don't forget /boot at least 1GB!
[06:00] <synackfin> Jordan_U: and won't I need more special steps for raid+lvm2 ?
[06:00] <llutz_> 1GB /boot? april 1st today?
[06:00] <wildbat> LOL !
[06:00] <dr_willis> i had a 5gb /boot/ but i had iso files there that grub2 booted for me. :)
[06:00] <dr_willis> !lvm
[06:00] <Jordan_U> synackfin: Behind the scenes a gpt label will be used rather than an msdos label and a BIOS boot partition created, but that is all handled automatically.
[06:01] <Jordan_U> synackfin: For RAID and LVM you'll need to use the alternate install CD (as explained in the links from ubottu).
[06:02] <synackfin> Jordan_U: is that true of the 11.04 installer?
[06:02] <synackfin> Jordan_U: or only the 11.10 beta?
[06:02] <Jordan_U> synackfin: It is true of the 11.04 installer.
[06:02] <min|dvir|us> What's the best place to put cronjobs?
[06:03] <llutz_> min|dvir|us: users crontab or /etc/cron.d
[06:03] <prologic> Q: How do I fix my screen output ? PC -> TV screen (HDMI) and it's all off the edge of the screen
[06:03] <min|dvir|us> llutz_: is the default configuration suitable for user cronjobs?
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> min|dvir|us: use gnome-schedule   (if you have a desktop UI). To cron as root run:  gksudo gnome-schedule
[06:03] <llutz_> min|dvir|us: should be
[06:05] <rocknblogger> soreau That was it!! SUccess. WHat a monumental waste of 3 days
[06:10] <simenbrekken> I'm trying to figure out why my upstart script doesn't run in context, the command seems to work fine when I just run it from shell, I can't seem to get any verbose output from it either
[06:11] <chaospsychex> is there a way i can prevent data being written to the MBR ? from say, a windows installation ?
[06:11] <Jordan_U> chaospsychex: No.
[06:12] <JjC2011> Yes, just don't install windows!
[06:12] <chaospsychex> there has to be a way to prevent write access to the mbr? could i write a program to do it?
[06:13] <Jordan_U> chaospsychex: No, whatever program you would write would not be running during the Windows install. You can't set only part of a drive read only in hardware. It's not very difficult to restore grub after installing Windows though.
[06:13] <tsimpson> chaospsychex: no, any OS that runs has access to the MBR, the only possible way would be to re-write your BIOS to deny write access, but I'm not aware of that ever being done
[06:14] <chaospsychex> is there open-source BIOS's ?
[06:14] <chaospsychex> i hate my bios anyway
[06:15] <Peter_Bilt> how to get unionfs w/o restart the machine
[06:16] <Peter_Bilt> i tried to move var/cache in unionfs
[06:17] <chaospsychex> whats the command to see what motherboard my comp has?
[06:18] <JjC2011> install hardinfo....  it tell you all!
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: there is a linux you can put in your BIOS, not sure how active it is or if it stiff exists
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: dmidecode will tell you a lot
[06:19] <chaospsychex> oh yeah, embedded linux is thriving
[06:20] <dr_willis> not seen that 'linux on the motherboard' feature mention in a while. Seen a few laptop  with it  a year+ ago. but not recently
[06:20] <chaospsychex> coreboot is an option, i am trying to see if it supports my motherboard though, trying to find out what mobo i have
[06:22] <Peter_Bilt> well i used now aufs instead of unionfs
[06:22] <netyire> has anyone filed a feature request for auto-muting apps on workspace 1 when switching to workspace 2?
[06:23] <netyire> it would make an awesome 'how we made gnome better' ad
[06:24] <simenbrekken> Anyone know why this init script might fail? "exec sudo -u ec2-user /usr/local/bin/node /home/ec2-user/myapp/application/api/app.js 2>&1 >> /home/ec2-user/myapp/log/api.log", I don't get any output (even with start -v) and the logfile stays empty.
[06:26] <chaospsychex> why is ubuntu only using 1668mb of my 4gb ram?
[06:27] <netyire> awesomeness
[06:27] <SwedeMike> chaospsychex: pastebin output from "free"
[06:27] <chaospsychex> ok one sec
[06:27] <dr_willis> why are you expecting it to slurp down all the ram? :)
[06:28] <terr> is goodnerd here?
[06:29] <chaospsychex> http://pastie.org/2551279
[06:29] <terr> chaospsychex: prolly buffers
[06:29] <SwedeMike> chaospsychex: what makes you say it's only using 1.6 gigs of ram?
[06:31] <chaospsychex> hardinfo is reporting
[06:31] <widewake> hi. when i start my computer a few of my keys are sticking and some are not working at all after start up and up to ten minutes , atm my delete key wont delete and my hhh key does that. Anyone have an idea of the issue? using ubuntu 10.10
[06:31] <SwedeMike> chaospsychex: well, it's wrong.
[06:31] <chaospsychex> how do i tell if i have 32 or 64bit ubuntu installed? command?
[06:32] <SwedeMike> chaospsychex: uname -a says amd64 or x86
[06:33] <chaospsychex> it says x86_64, does that mean i am running 32bit?
[06:33] <SwedeMike> chaospsychex: no.
[06:33] <SwedeMike> chaospsychex: x86_64 means 64bit.
[06:34] <SwedeMike> hm, guess they changed it from amd64 to x86_64
[06:34] <chaospsychex> im on 10.10
[06:34] <widewake>  hi. when i start my computer a few of my keys are sticking and some are not working at all after start up and up to ten minutes , atm my delete key wont delete and my hhh key does that. Anyone have an idea of the issue? using ubuntu 10.10
[06:36] <wildbat> widewake: watering on the keyboard can do that
[06:37] <widewake> wildbat, i ave a feeling its not from physical damage , after after some time it returns to normal
[06:38] <soreau> widewake: have you tried a different keyboard?
[06:38] <widewake> soreau, using a laptop
[06:38] <soreau> widewake: checked the keyboard settings?
[06:39] <soreau> widewake: tried a different OS?
[06:40] <widewake> soreau,  usin only linux, te problem did not occur till about a monthh ago
[06:40] <widewake> soreau,  very odd
[06:42] <kgdinesh> anyone here
[06:42] <computer_> Hi all what is a good command to check what wireless driver you are currently using
[06:42] <computer_> ?
[06:43] <llutz_> computer_: pci-device? "lspci -vv"
[06:44] <kgdinesh> lspci should do the trick
[06:44] <computer_> lspci just shows the chip not the driver
[06:45] <llutz_> computer_: -vv tells you
[06:45] <computer_> llutz, yes it does
[06:45] <computer_> But it tells you about everything
[06:47] <computer_> There was a really cool way with the aircrack-ng suite but for the live of me I can not recall it or find it in search engine land
[06:47] <llutz_> computer_: man lspci            ( -s xx:yy) to get what you want
[06:48] <computer_> Thanks llutz
[06:59] <chaospsychex> i just installed qemu? where is it?
[07:00] <llutz_> chaospsychex: "which qemu"
[07:00] <llutz_> chaospsychex: /usr/bin/qemu most likely
[07:00] <chaospsychex> i did sudo apt-get install qemu
[07:00] <llutz_> chaospsychex: "which qemu"  is a command
[07:05] <ArNezT> chaospsychex, u can find it from Ubuntu Software Centre
[07:05] <ljsoftnet> how do i know if my wireless gamepad works?
[07:06] <canurabus> hiya ... I get a broken package error when I try to install this package: 'libavahi-qt4-dev'. But I don't have any broken packages on my system (at least according to synaptic), so what could the problem be?
[07:08] <ajah> how to setup wireless ad-hoc network from command line i`ve tried many ways with no success so it will helpful for me if u just tell me how the network-manager do it
[07:09] <widewake> hi. when i start my computer a few of my keys are sticking and some are not working at all after start up and up to ten minutes , atm my delete key wont delete and my hhh key does that. Anyone have an idea of the issue? using ubuntu 10.10
[07:09] <ArNezT> canurabus, look at the dependencies it seems depend on libqt4-dev and libavahi-common-dev
[07:09] <canurabus> ArNezT: thanks for the reply. I have those packages successfully installed
[07:11] <canurabus> ArNezT: I think it's a pkg version mismatch, but your suggestion helped me look in the right place, ty :)
[07:12] <dr_willis> ajah:  i belive not all wirless cards in linux can do ad-hoc - ive never had it working the few times ive tried.
[07:13] <dr_willis> widewake:  if the h key is deleting characters. it sounds like the ctrl- key may be stuck I think ctrl-h or ctrl-j are normally remaped to delete
[07:14] <ArNezT> ajah, can you go to the network manager from taskbar or from System | Preference | Network Connection ->tab Wireless |add| mode|ad-hoc
[07:14] <debasher> hi2all
[07:16] <zombausa> hi. Is there any software that allows me to share files over lan between two ubuntu computers?
[07:18] <ArNezT> zombausa, maybe install samba or from menu Places | Connect to Server
[07:19] <krunkosaurus> Does anyone know how I can get my ubuntu box to stop loading the Boot Menu ("Select a Boot First device") whenever I restart it?
[07:19] <debasher> There are from Russia anyone?
[07:20] <Ben64> krunkosaurus: which boot menu is that
[07:20] <zombausa> I ll try that ArNezT
[07:21] <krunkosaurus> Ben64: I think it's part of my Foxconn motherboard, but I think most bootup menus are the same? I've checked every option in the bios settings.
[07:21] <ArNezT> krunkosaurus, try to cover from System | Administration | Startup-Manager, if not exist try to install it
[07:21] <Ben64> well if its your bios, thats not really an ubuntu problem
[07:21] <rww> !ru | debasher
[07:22] <krunkosaurus> Ben64: I suppose not, just seeing if anyone knows the issue
[07:22] <Ben64> it'd be in a boot menu
[07:22] <Ben64> almost every bios is different though, without seeing i wouldn't be sure
[07:24] <krunkosaurus> Ben64: I did specify "hard disk" in the bootup sequence and disabled every other option. I haven't built a machine in years, I remember having to change the bit on the actual harddrives to set them to master or slave back in the day
[07:24] <krunkosaurus> but they don' t seem to have them now
[07:24] <Ben64> should have to select which hard drive in the menu
[07:26] <dr_willis> all my new machines use some F key as a way to get to a 'pick the hd to boot' menu
[07:28] <Angelous> What's all the basic compilers I should install
[07:28] <Ben64> gcc
[07:28] <cheapie> Angelous: build-essential should be enough.
[07:29] <Angelous> wut is this?
[07:29] <Angelous> Get:1 http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates/main linux-libc-dev amd64 2.6.32-35squeeze2 [845 kB]
[07:29] <Angelous> Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[07:29] <Angelous> 'Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.1a _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20110322-16:05'
[07:29] <Angelous> in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter
[07:29] <FloodBot1> Angelous: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:29] <Angelous> OH, sorry
[07:30] <cheapie> Angelous: Looks like you're running Debian. This is the Ubuntu channel.
[07:31] <rww> Angelous: please use #debian for Debian technical support
[07:31] <Angelous> Yeah, no one is active in #debian, though
[07:31] <Angelous> I'm sure someone knows here
[07:31] <cheapie> Angelous: Just a sec...
[07:31] <SwedeMike> Angelous: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the line with cdrom
[07:32] <SwedeMike> Angelous: or comment it out
[07:32] <ArNezT> if ubuntu u have to comment the source-list from cdrom maybe
[07:33] <ArNezT> i don't know much 'bot debian
[07:33] <debasher> #ubuntu-ru
[07:36] <danishbacker> hi im new to ubuntu
[07:36] <danishbacker> how to know the ftp username/password for lamp
[07:36] <Ben64> what do you mean
[07:37] <rww> danishbacker: LAMP is Linux Apache MySQL PHP. There is no FTP server involved in that acronym.
[07:37] <danishbacker> i just recently switched from windows to ubuntu
[07:37] <danishbacker> i was deleting a plugin in wordpress
[07:38] <danishbacker> then it is asking for ftp username and password
[07:38] <danishbacker> how to do it ?
[07:38] <cheapie> danishbacker: Most FTP servers will allow you to log in with your username and password for the system.
[07:38] <danishbacker> @rww, :) yes, sorry
[07:39] <danishbacker> @cheapie, how to check if i have a ftp server installed ?
[07:39] <llutz_> danishbacker: dpkg -l *ftp* |grep ^i
[07:39] <chaospsychex> does ubuntu use hypervisor ?
[07:39] <danishbacker> in my phpinfo it says ftp support enabled
[07:46] <e_t_> chaospsychex: What do you mean?
[07:46] <ArNezT> danishbacker, try to type: ftp from console
[07:47] <ArNezT> or client program such proftp
[07:47] <chaospsychex> i am trying to figure out what hypervisor is and how it's implemented? is hardware based or kernel based?
[07:47] <ArNezT> default without ftp using ssh2 port
[07:47] <cheapie> chaospsychex: A hypervisor emulates a computer within software.
[07:47] <dr_willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypervisor
[07:47] <mikigirl> Hello in here. We have a problem with Google Earth. We have downloaded that on to Ubuntu 11.04 but the text is not wery easy to read.
[07:48] <chaospsychex> so qemu is a hypervisor ?
[07:48] <cheapie> chaospsychex: QEMU is a type 2 hypervisor, meaning it runs within an OS.
[07:49] <chaospsychex> what is a type 1?
[07:49] <dr_willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_platform_virtual_machines
[07:49] <cheapie> chaospsychex: A type 1 hypervisor runs by itself (not within an OS).
[07:49] <mikigirl> By the way it's in 32 bit
[07:50] <dr_willis> mikigirl:  perhaps you need to install the ms fonts, or some other fonts.
[07:51] <dr_willis> !fonts
[07:52] <newerthhero> hi
[07:52] <ArNezT> !netbeans
[07:52] <newerthhero> ubuntu resets my screen resolution every time
[07:52] <newerthhero> how do i make it not change itt
[07:53] <krunkosaurus> Whats the best way to get my ubuntu to always load headless
[07:54] <theadmin> krunkosaurus: Either remove any display managers from the boot sequence, or append "text" to the kernel line
[07:54] <ArNezT> newerthhero,  try set manually from xorg.conf
[07:54] <newerthhero> ArNezT: how ?
[07:55] <dr_willis> krunkosaurus:  you mean boot to the console?
[07:55] <krunkosaurus> theadmin: Thanks, how do I go about appending text to the kernel line?
[07:55] <dr_willis> krunkosaurus:  edit /etc/default/grub  and see grub2 docs.
[07:55] <cheapie> krunkosaurus: Provided that you're using GRUB, anyway.
[07:56] <krunkosaurus> dr_willis: cheapie: I'm using grub thanks
[07:56] <dr_willis> !grub2
[07:56] <ArNezT> newerthhero,  see at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1192754
[07:56] <zombausa> samba transfers are very slow over wifi Lan. how do I improve the speed?
[07:56] <krunkosaurus> well i'm using the newest ubuntu, so prob Grub2
[08:00] <krunkosaurus> dr_willis: yes I just want it to boot to console always
[08:00] <ArNezT> zombausa, try from ssh/console
[08:00] <cheapie> krunkosaurus: Is this regular Ubuntu, or Kubuntu?
[08:01] <krunkosaurus> cheapie: reg ubuntu
[08:02] <cheapie> krunkosaurus: Boot into recovery mode, and run "apt-get remove gdm gdm3"
[08:02] <krunkosaurus> i heard changing the runlevel to 3 on etc/inittab was a way to get ubuntu to load just command line everytime
[08:02] <theadmin> krunkosaurus: Runlevels are no longer supported
[08:02] <llutz_> krunkosaurus: in those day pre-upstart
[08:02] <krunkosaurus> oh
[08:03] <krunkosaurus> cheapie:  theadmin: thanks
[08:03] <zombausa> ArNezT, ssh says connection refused
[08:04] <ArNezT> ssh port default 22 if you don't modify
[08:04] <Ben64> wifi is slow often times, and i don't think ubuntu comes with openssh server by default
[08:06] <zombausa> ArNezT, its on port 22
[08:06] <zombausa> but it still says connection refused
[08:06] <llutz_> zombausa: firewalled or just no sshd listening
[08:08] <zombausa> port 22 should be open llutz_
[08:08] <zombausa> not listening
[08:09] <llutz_> zombausa: "sudo lsof -i :22"
[08:11] <ArNezT> zombausa, check /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[08:12] <dr_willis> krunkosaurus:  you just need to edit the /etc/default/grub  file and replace 'quiet splash' with text  and rerun update-grub
[08:12] <dr_willis> krunkosaurus:  no need to remove anything
[08:14] <krunkosaurus> dr_willis: thanks will try now!
[08:15] <mikigirl> dr_willis: We have no
[08:17] <mikigirl> We have now downloaded fonts from the second link you gave us and installed Google Earth again. It still says we need to reinstall G.E. And when we go in the text is still wrong.
[08:17] <krunkosaurus> dr_willis: That worked great thanks. I'm trying to build a low powered headless linux box for a Burning Man project
[08:18] <t3st0r> opo
[08:19] <dr_willis> 'it still says...'  what still says that?
[08:19] <t3st0r> hello
[08:19] <brokencodes> hi
[08:20] <mikigirl> Ubunto Softwarecenter. It should have said installet.
[08:20] <brokencodes> What is Ubunto?
[08:20] <brokencodes> Don't you mean Ubuntu?
[08:20] <t3st0r> Sof center
[08:21] <dr_willis> how did you install google earth in the frst place mikigirl ?
[08:22] <brokencodes> thats easy
[08:22] <mikigirl> From the internet page, and then on  Ubuntu 32 bit
[08:23] <dr_willis> and the file name was what exactly?
[08:23] <danishbacker> @cheapie, thanks it worked :D
[08:23] <brokencodes> goto http://www.google.com/earth/download/ge/agree.html, select your distro / OS, and hit Download button :)
[08:23] <dr_willis> 'from the internet page' tells us very little. :)
[08:23] <dr_willis> I think google has repos with google earth and other of their apps in it.
[08:23] <dr_willis> !googleearth
[08:23] <dr_willis> hmm - seems to be in the multiverse repo now.
[08:24] <dr_willis> !info googleearth-package
[08:24] <brokencodes> I'm in the multiverse repo, too!
[08:24] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install googleearth-package   should install google earth.
[08:25] <mikigirl> Here's were we found it: http://www.google.com/earth/download/ge/agree.html  And this is the file we downloadet: https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/direct/google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb
[08:25] <t3st0r> not sur ?
[08:25] <dr_willis> mikigirl:  i suggest using the one in the repos.
[08:26] <adante> hi, i ran rsync on a large archive but forgot to add -A to preserve acl, is there a way i can 'copy over' the acl's afterwards?
[08:26] <mikigirl> Okay we will remove the one we have installet and try  the thing you sais
[08:26] <t3st0r> to install google earth : open synaptin and make google earth easy
[08:27] <brokencodes> dr_willis, considering there is no sourcecode for google earth, it would be assumed that the version in the multiverse repo, and the one on the http://www.google.com/earth/download/ge/agree.html page, are one and the same...
[08:27] <dr_willis> brokencodes:  the packagte description says  'utility to automatically build a Debian package ' it Might do some tweaks or other changes.
[08:27] <dr_willis> or pull in other needed files.
[08:27] <dr_willis> ive only used the repo method/one  and never had any font issues.
[08:28] <brokencodes> the method behind dpkg, is to always bring in dependencies, so I still fail to see the difference...
[08:28] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth
[08:28] <dr_willis> may have some tips also.
[08:28] <dr_willis> try both ways and see i guess.. if its in the repos. i suggest using the repos.
[08:29] <brokencodes> Umm, the first recommended installation method is "Installing the .deb file downloaded from the Google Earth Website" as quoted from your link
[08:29] <Starminn> What's that effect (not sure if it's Compiz or not) where you hover your mouse over a window and it fades all others?
[08:30] <dr_willis> Starminn:  that would be a compiz plugin. transparancy i think.
[08:30] <brokencodes> i would asume the one in the repo, is a mirror of the one from the Google Earth website, but I am just Brokencodes, ARM Smasher extraordinaire...
[08:32] <Starminn> dr_willis: I can't find where to turn it off.
[08:33] <dr_willis> Starminn:  you could ask in #compiz  - i dont have the plugins memorised. :)
[08:33] <Starminn> dr_willis: :) Alright then, sounds fair enough
[08:33] <bullgard4> WHow is the 'machine hardware name' defined that the command '~$ uname -m' outputs?
[08:33] <dr_willis> or just start disabling one by one. :)
[08:33] <bullgard4> _W
[08:34] <Starminn> dr_willis: That has been my technique and I've not had any luck. It's driving me crazy now lol
[08:34] <brokencodes> Transparency on focus change
[08:35] <Starminn> Ooo, I found it!
[08:35] <Starminn> I somehow missed this one. I don't know how, but I missed it. It's "Opacify"
[08:35] <ignotusp_> hi
[08:35] <dr_willis> fancy term for transparentcy :)
[08:36] <ignotusp_> I have a problem with installing xubuntu 11.4
[08:36] <ignotusp_> 11.04*
[08:36] <Starminn> dr_willis: I kept looking in "Opacity, Brightness and Saturation" because of the word "Opacity." Never once did I even think to look what "Opacify" was up to.
[08:36] <Starminn> lol. ah well! Anyway, thank you guys
[08:37] <ignotusp_> oh, that's ok :)
[08:45] <bullgard4> How is the 'machine hardware name' defined that the command '~$ uname -m' outputs?
[08:45] <dr_willis> i would guess it comes from the kernel
[08:46] <dr_willis> but i just have the one linux box to test :)
[08:47] <dr_willis>  info coreutils 'uname invocation'
[08:47] <dr_willis> seems to give more detailed info then the man pages
[08:49] <mikigirl> I must say we are lost in this issue. Now we have downloaded from Ubuntu Softwarecenter but there are still issues about the text.
[08:50] <dr_willis> mikigirl:  take a screen shot. check the forums and askubuntu.com to see if others have issues.
[08:50] <dr_willis> ive never heard anyone else in here mention font issues with google earth.
[08:50] <shai27> Hello, I am using cat & grep to match lines from text file, now I would like to parse each line by \t (tabs) can someone tell me how I can do that ?
[08:51] <dr_willis> shai27:  you mean you want    'fooo <tab>  bar <tab> fiddle' to be 3 lines?
[08:51] <mikigirl> And how the heck do i do that?
[08:51] <llutz_> shai27: grep -P '\t'    (grep hardly needs cat)
[08:51] <dr_willis> print screen key can take a screen shot.
[08:52] <dr_willis> !screenshot
[08:52] <g3rdi> is ubuntu software center down?
[08:53] <dr_willis> g3rdi:  you are like the 3rd person to ask that today. :) i wonder if some of the servers are down. or being updated..
[08:53] <g3rdi> ah man .. hope they updating
[08:54] <mikigirl> I'm not good enough to do these kinds of command
[08:54] <g3rdi> I thought i might have destroyed it somehow
[08:54] <dr_willis> g3rdi:  they seem to be working here.. but  it may just be the server you are connecting to.
[08:54] <bullgard4> dr_willis: This returns the additional information: "sometimes called the hardware class or hardware type" and does not give a definition.
[08:54] <bullgard4> either
[08:55] <dr_willis> bullgard4:  you always ask the most obscure questions. :)   dare  i ask why it matters? :)
[08:55] <theadmin> mikigirl: It's not a command, it's a key on your keyboard.
[08:55] <dr_willis> bullgard4:  i would guess its ix86 for intel, and arm or ppc for other type cpus.
[08:56] <dr_willis> bullgard4:  but i have no other hardware to even test it on.
[08:56] <dr_willis> wonder if its on my android phone..
[08:56] <brokencodes> arm is down
[08:56] <mikigirl> Yeah but were schould i do with it. It doesn't tells me it copyed the dokument, or where to put the sreenshot afterwords
[08:56] <brokencodes> natty and mverick are down, on arm
[08:57] <brokencodes> mikigirl, are you on a laptop?
[08:57] <mikigirl> yes i am
[08:57] <brokencodes> do you have a FN key on the lower left of the keyboard?
[08:58] <brokencodes> mikigirl, do you have a FN key on the lower left of the keyboard?
[08:58] <dr_willis> bullgard4:  it says armv71 on my phone. :)  nifty
[08:58] <mikigirl> nope the key is Home/Prt Sc:
[08:58] <dr_willis> gimp can take screen shots.. as can other apps as well
[08:58] <brokencodes> listen tomy queston, please mikigirl
[08:58] <mikigirl> oh now i found the FN key
[08:58] <brokencodes> do you have a key labeled FN in the lower left portion of your keyboard, mikigirl?
[08:59] <brokencodes> ok
[08:59] <brokencodes> hold FN, and hit PRTSCN
[08:59] <dr_willis> on my laptop the fn key text is in 'blue' and some keys have blue text that are the special feature used when hitting fn+thatkey
[08:59] <aldos> good morning :) my ubuntu sometimes crashes and it shows a black screen. i took a picture of the monitor. can you help me to understand the reason why it crashes? http://imageshack.us/f/27/sam1177i.jpg/
[09:00] <brokencodes> dr_willis, you have an HP eh?
[09:00] <dr_willis> brokencodes:  toshiba actually.
[09:00] <brokencodes> nuice
[09:00] <dr_willis>  and a hp.. and a... :)
[09:00] <theadmin> brokencodes: Why is that? I have a Samsung and for me the fn keys are blue too
[09:00] <brokencodes> C series?
[09:00] <mikigirl> okay i try that in the Google Earth:  But where should i put the printed screen?
[09:00] <brokencodes> I work with HP's all day, its all the company I work for buys, they all have blue FN keys
[09:01] <dr_willis> !screenshot
[09:01] <brokencodes> mikigirl, somewhere you can find it, home folder would work
[09:01] <theadmin> mikigirl: Save it as an image and put it on some imagesharing site, e.g. http://imm.io
[09:01] <bullgard4> dr_willis: My apologies. Precision is at the beginning of all (computer) science.
[09:02] <aldos> no one can help me?
[09:02] <dr_willis>  aldos  if its showing a black screen.. you took a picture of a black screen?
[09:03] <aldos> black screen with something written on it
[09:03] <bullgard4> aldos: There appears "panic occurred". This is a severe computer software error.
[09:03] <brokencodes> aldos, seems you have laptop utilities installed, remove them
[09:03] <aldos> which utilities?
[09:04] <brokencodes> laptop-mode-tools
[09:05] <brokencodes> are you using kda, aldos?
[09:05] <bullgard4> aldos: You have taken this screenshot too late in time so that I personally cannot say what in particular caused the kernel panic.
[09:05] <brokencodes> are you using kde, aldos? (typo from before)
[09:05] <aldos> no. unity
[09:06] <brokencodes> please check that you dont have laptop-mode-tools installed
[09:07] <aldos> laptop-mode-tools isn't installed. laptop-detect is installed
[09:07] <brokencodes> ok aldos
[09:07] <mikigirl> now i have it on the http:// page you said
[09:08] <brokencodes> what is the temperature in the room, where this machine is being used
[09:08] <brokencodes> ?
[09:08] <brokencodes> mikigirl, we need the link it gave back to you
[09:08] <aldos> brokencodecs, 26 °C
[09:08] <mikigirl> This is the one http://imm.io/9iQJ
[09:09] <brokencodes> 79 degrees is not that hot
[09:10] <brokencodes> aldos, are you using X64 or i386 version of ubuntu?
[09:10] <aldos> brokencodes, x64
[09:11] <brokencodes> how much ram have you installed on that HP?
[09:11] <dr_willis> mikigirl:  interesting - seems to be using a monospaced font.
[09:12] <brokencodes> no
[09:12] <brokencodes> its a unicode issue
[09:12] <aldos> brokencodes, 4GB
[09:12] <dr_willis> mikigirl:  as a test. you could try making a new user, and see if the newly  made user has a simile rissue
[09:12] <brokencodes> Mikigirl, what country are you from?
[09:12] <mikigirl> dr_willis: It's not shown the way it used to stand
[09:12] <SchalaZeal> I accidentally put a grub boot loader on another drive. How do I remove it?
[09:12] <dr_willis> SchalaZeal:  with very very carefull use of the dd command.
[09:12] <mikigirl> brokencodes: We're from Denmark. And you?
[09:13] <brokencodes> USA here,
[09:13] <SchalaZeal> is there an instructional page on it?
[09:13] <mikigirl> dr_willis: A new user on where
[09:13] <dr_willis> mikigirl:  on your ubuntu system
[09:13] <dr_willis> 'sudo adduser billgates' :)  or similer.
[09:13] <mikigirl> brokencodes: where in the states?
[09:14] <brokencodes> Florida
[09:14] <dr_willis> then see if the  problem exists for all users.. if NOT - then its a user setting issue.. if it does affect all users. wellits some system setting/font issue
[09:14] <SchalaZeal> Is there a help page on the wiki about removing the boot loader?
[09:14] <Ben64> you don't need to remove it, you can just put it on the correct drive
[09:14] <RandOmize> Anyone good with qemu?
[09:14] <RandOmize> Hey folks, this is my first day with qemu, and I'm having a hell of a time.  I can't get qemu loader to load. So i'm trying with the command line, and I dont know how to tell it to set an sd card as a boot disk
[09:14] <SchalaZeal> oh
[09:15] <dr_willis> mikigirl:  you did logout after installing the ms fonts?
[09:15] <SchalaZeal> Well, I accidentally put it on my Windows drive, and reran the installer and specified it on my Linux drive instead
[09:15] <dr_willis> mikigirl:  first hit i got when googled for 'ubuntu google earth fonts' --> http://ubuntuguide.net/install-google-earth-and-fix-ugly-fonts-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty
[09:15] <Ben64> SchalaZeal: should be good then, does it boot right?
[09:15] <brokencodes> mikigirl, look at this page, please
[09:16] <brokencodes> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/earth/thread?tid=656ef9a98bc427dd&hl=en
[09:16] <SchalaZeal> I'll check...
[09:16] <SchalaZeal> one second
[09:16] <mikigirl> dr_willis: logout from where?
[09:16] <dr_willis> mikigirl:  from the system...
[09:16] <brokencodes> yep
[09:16] <dr_willis> log out the user.. back to the gdm screen.
[09:16] <brokencodes> mikigirl, do sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer in a terminal
[09:16] <mikigirl> brokencodes: i'm looking on that page now
[09:17] <mikigirl> dr_willis: no i didn't
[09:17] <brokencodes> mikigirl, do sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer in a terminal
[09:17] <brokencodes> then restart your system
[09:17] <dr_willis> mikigirl:  time to log out then.. and see.. after running that command above
[09:18] <mikigirl> brokencodes: i am not good on the terminal settings. that's a place i really don't wanna go
[09:18] <brokencodes> ok
[09:18] <brokencodes> open synaptic
[09:18] <brokencodes> and type in the search
[09:18] <brokencodes> ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[09:18] <dr_willis> mikigirl:  you just cut/paste the exact line he gave....
[09:18] <brokencodes> select it for installation
[09:18] <brokencodes> click apply
[09:18] <dr_willis> ' sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer '
[09:19] <theadmin> mikigirl: Just open a terminal, and paste this in, exactly as it is: sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[09:19] <Ben64> yeah, copy paste is easy, no in depth knowledge needed
[09:19] <brokencodes> you can even do with keyboard
[09:19] <theadmin> mikigirl: When it asks for a password, type yours in. It won't appear neither in letters nor in asteriks
[09:19] <aldos> brokencodes, when ubuntu crashed i was using skype and firefox with two tabs: facebook and soundcloud
[09:19] <dr_willis> I thought she allready installed the fonts earlier.
[09:19] <dr_willis> !fonts
[09:19] <brokencodes> by holding  shift and ctrl, and hitting V
[09:19] <Total_Oblivion> hello. I wanna install ubuntu on an internal HDD but i have series/movies/etc there. They take 500GB. I wanna use 60GB for ubuntu. Do I need to parition and/or format for that?
[09:19] <dr_willis> i wonder if the msttcorefonts package is an alias for that ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[09:19]  * theadmin is used to pasting with middle-mouse
[09:20] <Ben64> or you can go to Edit, and Paste
[09:20] <dr_willis> Total_Oblivion:  its best to run ubuntu on its own parittion. and you prob should make backups befor resizeing a hard drive partition
[09:20] <brokencodes> aldos, did you install the 32 bit version of skype?
[09:20] <mikigirl> okay i try to log out compleately and start the computer again and see.
[09:20] <SchalaZeal> Grub's still on my Windows drive as well as my Linux drive. Only the other boot loader on my Windows drive takes me the a "grub rescue" prompt now
[09:21] <dr_willis> somehow log out.. became reboot.. :) heh
[09:21] <Trowa> Does anyone here know about connection sharing?  I've installed Firestarter, and I'm just trying to get my xbox360 to use my computer's wireless internet, but my xbox won't get an IP address even though I ran Firestarter's wizard.  Any ideas?  :)
[09:21] <theadmin> SchalaZeal: Get a Windows CD, open a recovery console, type in: "fixmbr && fixboot", reboot
[09:21] <Total_Oblivion> dr_willis: because 500GB is tough to backup. I might install it on C along with w7. But that will need me to format and re-install w7?
[09:21] <dr_willis> Trowa:  you may need to install a dhcp server. or set it to a static ip.
[09:21] <SchalaZeal> awesome, thanks
[09:21] <brokencodes> I told her to reboot, because for some paople is easier to hit power button on their PC, wait till dead, and return to power
[09:21] <dr_willis> Total_Oblivion:  it is? I just backed up 3Tb here.....
[09:21] <Trowa> dr_willis:  I'll investigate both, thanks.
[09:21] <Total_Oblivion> dr_willis: i have no space to back it up :P
[09:21] <Ben64> SchalaZeal: you should be able to set grub to start windows too
[09:22] <dr_willis> Total_Oblivion:  data wrorth keeping is worth backing up. :)  a hd could die at any time.
[09:22] <brokencodes> yep
[09:22] <SchalaZeal> Okay
[09:22] <brokencodes> I had a brand new hard drive die immediately following an OS install
[09:22] <dr_willis> Total_Oblivion:  you resize existing partitions to free up space.. you DONT reformat the partitions you are resizeing
[09:22] <Total_Oblivion> dr_willis: i don't have any partitions
[09:23] <brokencodes> Total_Oblivion, I think you are mistaken
[09:23] <dr_willis> Total_Oblivion:  err.. yes you do. :)
[09:23] <brokencodes> Windows cannot install without partitions
[09:23] <Total_Oblivion> really?
[09:23] <dr_willis> windows 7 instals often take up 4 primary parittions.. that can be an issue.
[09:23] <aldos> i don't know which version of skype is installed.. i installed it from the ubuntu software center
[09:23] <dr_willis> Total_Oblivion:  time to read up a bit on disk partitoning.
[09:23] <theadmin> dr_willis: What? It takes 2, 3 at max
[09:23] <brokencodes> lol
[09:23] <Ben64> it takes... one
[09:23] <brokencodes> 2
[09:23] <brokencodes> No
[09:23] <theadmin> Ben64: It reserves one for the bootloader/swapfile
[09:23] <brokencodes> WINDOWS 7 REQUIRES 2 PARTITIONS
[09:24] <Total_Oblivion> dr_willis: i feel stupid atm... gimme links to read :P
[09:24] <mikigirl> i'm back now. The Google Earth is still in wrong mode though
[09:24] <dr_willis> theadmin:  every new win7 machine ive seen  is always using 4. One for its boot, one for  the os, one for some revovery. then one for some special tools..   no idea why.
[09:24] <Ben64> brokencodes: you don't need to yell
[09:24] <dr_willis> Total_Oblivion:  start with the wikipedia pages on disk partitions :)
[09:24] <theadmin> dr_willis: Well, that's manufacturer's fault. Plain Windows 7 requires only 2
[09:24] <Total_Oblivion> dr_willis: i thought that ubuntu made partition on its own
[09:24] <brokencodes> Windows 6.XX has required 2 partitions, for boot repair
[09:24] <dr_willis> go tell it to HP and DELL and Gateway and others...
[09:25] <dr_willis> Total_Oblivion:  it resizes  the existing parittions..
[09:25] <dr_willis> Total_Oblivion:   you can pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' for us to look at if you want.
[09:25] <brokencodes> Windows 7 is actually Windows Version 6.2.7300
[09:25] <spartan137> hallo at all, Good sunday
[09:25] <brokencodes> halloo
[09:25] <dr_willis> windows 7 dosent actually require 2 either. from what ive read. :) but getting it to use only 1 - aparently can be a pain.
[09:25] <spartan137> I see in system monitor that i have 5 apache2 server processes running. Can someone tell me why?
[09:26] <dr_willis> spartan137:  it spawns extras in case they are needed to reduce lag/load
[09:26] <Total_Oblivion> dr_willis: do what?
[09:26] <brokencodes> dr_willis, if you dont have 2, you cannot successfully install a service pack
[09:26] <aldos> brokencodes, how i understand which version of skype i'm using?
[09:26] <brokencodes> aldos, I dont know
[09:26] <dr_willis> brokencodes:  no idea on that. I just spent close to 12+ hrs backingig up/restoreing this windows laptop. :)
[09:27] <dr_willis> I keep my linux and windows installs on seperate hard drives as much as possible
[09:27] <spartan137> but, what is the use or the need of apache2 server running if i use Kubuntu desktop system?
[09:27] <dr_willis> spartan137:  you installed apache2 .. you tell us?
[09:27] <llutz_> spartan137: why did you install apache?
[09:27] <brokencodes> spartan137, you can remove apache,if you see fit
[09:27] <dr_willis> :)
[09:27] <spartan137> no, i did not install apache 2
[09:28] <dr_willis> spartan137:  its not installed by default.. so someone did.
[09:28] <llutz_> spartan137: you did, ubuntu-desktop/alternate don't come default with apache
[09:28] <dr_willis> gremlins?
[09:28] <llutz_> spartan137: "aptitude why apache2"
[09:28] <brokencodes> AHHH! Its the Apache DEMON!!! Get some salt, and a pebcak remover!
[09:29] <dr_willis> 'bloatware remover'
[09:29] <dr_willis> :)
[09:29] <spartan137> ok i know i can remove apache2 by uninstalling, but since i'm new to kubuntu i'm asking if these apache processes are useful to something of the desktop manager or something else!
[09:29] <brokencodes> PEBCAK == Problem exists between Chair and Keyboard
[09:29] <SchalaZeal> *sigh*... fixmbr and fixboot are unknown commands...
[09:29] <theadmin> spartan137: apache is a webserver
[09:29] <dr_willis> spartan137:  somthing you installed  pulled them in.
[09:29] <dr_willis> spartan137:  if you dont need a web server.. then no its not usefull
[09:30] <theadmin> SchalaZeal: A Windows recovery console. You must have that installed and/or run that from CD
[09:30] <dr_willis> SchalaZeal:  depends on the version of windows also.
[09:30] <mikigirl> brokencodes: I have now installe the ttf:mscore you wrote earlier
[09:30] <SchalaZeal> well I opened command prompt from the CD
[09:30] <brokencodes> ok
[09:30] <brokencodes> SchalaZeal,
[09:30] <SchalaZeal> it's Windows 7 x64
[09:30] <brokencodes> in cmd promt
[09:30] <brokencodes> type bootrec
[09:30] <dr_willis> those are not the proper commands for win7 i belive.. you may want to ask in #windows
[09:31] <SchalaZeal> hmm... ok
[09:31] <brokencodes> SchalaZeal, type in the cmd prompt, "bootrec"
[09:31] <theadmin> dr_willis: Ah, well, I'm judging on my XP experience. Also, it is ##windows
[09:31] <dr_willis> still not sure why MS likes to change those commands eveyr so often.
[09:31] <lnx_> fdisk /fixmbr
[09:31] <spartan137> thanks, but do you know some commands to give to terminal to see what software install causes the installation of apache2?
[09:31] <dr_willis> for 95/XP - its fdisk \mbr or somthing like that
[09:31] <SchalaZeal> lnx: for Windows 7?
[09:31] <brokencodes> lnx, fdisk /mbr will not work in windows 7
[09:31] <dr_willis> been years. :)
[09:31] <SchalaZeal> oh
[09:32] <dr_willis> then vista did somthing differnt.. then win7 i think did somthing differfnt still
[09:32] <brokencodes> SchalaZeal, type in the cmd prompt, "bootrec"
[09:32] <llutz_> spartan137: "aptitude why apache2"
[09:32] <Total_Oblivion> dr_willis: i just checked disk management: i have 1 primary partition on each HDD and on one 9 MB unallocated space and on the other no anallocated space
[09:32] <SmallDeadGuy> Hi
[09:32] <brokencodes> Hi
[09:32] <SmallDeadGuy> I have a problem.
[09:32] <brokencodes> shoot
[09:32] <spartan137> oh ok.. i did'n understand that... before..
[09:32] <brokencodes> SmallDeadGuy, whats the problem?
[09:33] <SmallDeadGuy> Basically, my laptop has 2 graphics cards. An NVIDIA GT 525m and a shitty intel one built into my i7
[09:33] <brokencodes> k
[09:33] <llutz_> spartan137: and yes, aptitude needs to be installed. also won't come by default anymore :(
[09:33] <brokencodes> Continue
[09:33] <binsh> bumblebee
[09:33] <binsh> :P
[09:33] <spartan137> :D i saw! lool
[09:33] <SmallDeadGuy> My problem is the intel one won't run OpenGL on ubuntu, and when installing NVIDIA drivers to use that Unity won't work.
[09:34] <spartan137> aptitude will overlapp apt?
[09:34] <anth0ny>  anyone know how to change the icon of the Nautilus favorites side panel icons?
[09:34] <binsh> SmallDeadGuy, install ironhide, then u can run opengl-programs with optirun64 <your program here>
[09:34] <llutz_> spartan137: both are apt-frontend, aptitude just has some more features and better dep-handling
[09:34] <binsh> SmallDeadGuy, Just uninstall your nvidia-drivers
[09:35] <SmallDeadGuy> binsh: What I really want to do is force ubuntu to use the NVIDIA card, since its faster and better.
[09:35] <binsh> you cant
[09:35] <binsh> nvidia optimus isnt supported on linux
[09:35] <SmallDeadGuy> I cant disable the intel one in the bios either :(
[09:36] <memememe1> when will the 11.10 be released as stable?
[09:36] <binsh> nope, got the same issue, so i just have to run w7 on my laptop.
[09:36] <theadmin> memememe1: 11.10.
[09:36] <brokencodes> memememe1, in October, as the release schedule says
[09:36] <theadmin> memememe1: Means october 2011. It's year.month
[09:36] <buhman> keynes vs hayek
[09:36] <brokencodes> see the 11? means 2011, see the 10? Means October
[09:37] <SmallDeadGuy> Yeah I've been stuck on w7 too. Ubuntu has no options for graphics cards to use? W7 does and you can specify for individual programs
[09:37] <binsh> you can force programs to run with nvivia
[09:37] <memememe1> okies 12 more days to go
[09:37] <binsh> in the terminal you write optirun64 <your program here>
[09:37] <theadmin> memememe1: Not really, it's likely to be by the end of october
[09:37] <binsh> but you have to install ironhide first
[09:38] <szal> memememe1: put another 2 weeks more on the bill & you're about good
[09:38] <llutz_> memememe1: its 11.10, not 11.10.01, so be patient
[09:38] <SmallDeadGuy> binsh: Ok I guess ill try that, how can I uninstall the driver?
[09:38] <memememe1> means?
[09:38] <memememe1> ahh ok
[09:38] <binsh> SmallDeadGuy, can you enter ur desktop? or is it just one big "terminal"?
[09:38] <memememe1> i am using 10.10 so waiting till 11.10 comes out
[09:39] <SmallDeadGuy> I can use terminal or go into failsafe graphics mode.
[09:39] <SmallDeadGuy> Not right now though, on my iPod :(
[09:39] <theadmin> SmallDeadGuy: Ubuntu on iPod?
[09:39] <brokencodes> SmallDeadGuy, merry Xmas
[09:39] <brokencodes> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTMyNA
[09:39] <binsh> ahh, ok, then just remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and ubuntu will use your intel-gfx
[09:40] <SmallDeadGuy> No, im using iOS. Just getting ideas
[09:41] <brokencodes> SmallDeadGuy, did you see this? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTMyNA
[09:41] <Luca1> Hi! Yesterday I installed KDE on my Ubuntu system and since then Firefox is working very strangely. Fonts are rendered quite badly and back and forward buttons are always grayed out. Anyone who experienced this already?
[09:41] <lnx_> anyone know why MPD-Player doesn't restore the state ( on system startup) in newest ubuntu?
[09:41] <binsh> brokencodes, that driver doesnt work with optimus
[09:41] <brokencodes> Luca1, do system update, and restart
[09:42] <justinas> Good morning!
[09:42] <binsh> brokencodes, nvidia has decided not to support optimus on linux ...
[09:42] <justinas> Synaptic autentification dialog does not get the focus in Oneiric.
[09:42] <theadmin> justinas: Wrong channel for this, go to #ubuntu+1
[09:42] <brokencodes> wtf is Optimus? Battery life crap?
[09:42] <justinas> Okay/
[09:43] <binsh> brokencodes, yea, dynamic swithcing when you need it...
[09:43] <brokencodes> ghey
[09:43] <binsh> brokencodes, yeah, and all the new laptop uses that.
[09:44] <Luca1> brokencodes: update? System is up to date...
[09:44] <brokencodes> binsh, what is this... http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTQxNg
[09:44] <SmallDeadGuy> brokencodes: That sounds like the driver I installed, but I use 64bit ubuntu so the hanging bug doesn't apply to me. Ubuntu just hates intel graphics cards
[09:45] <brokencodes> I have a 4 series in my HP 6730B,and have no issues
[09:45] <Total_Oblivion> do i need to format an HD in order to partition and install ubuntu there?
[09:45] <binsh> brokencodes, the ur lucky :D
[09:45] <brokencodes> compiz works a treat too
[09:45] <brokencodes> 1680x1050 LCD
[09:46] <SmallDeadGuy> I just wish intel didn't stick crappy graphics cards in their CPUs. MC runs at 40 fps with my intel card or 320+ with my nvidia one
[09:46] <thankota> hello
[09:47] <brokencodes> I get 60FPS in XBMC on my HP 6730B and 200fps in Assault Cube
[09:47] <binsh> brokencodes, i think its the same as ironhide
[09:47] <binsh> brokencodes, ironhide and another project was called bumblebee before, but then it splitted into 2 groups
[09:47] <brokencodes> I only have Intel Q945 in my craptop
[09:48] <binsh> brokencodes, i used ironhide before, but its kinda crap to write optirun64 everytime, and some stuff even doesnt work
[09:49] <binsh> SmallDeadGuy, Try the ironhide thing ;)
[09:50] <Luca1> brokencodes: solved by removing the configuration directory. Don't know what happened.
[09:50] <bullgard4> http://library.gnome.org/users/seahorse/2.32/seahorse.html: "SSH keys are used in key-based authentication system, as an alternative to the default password authentication system." What is meant by the »default password authentication system«?
[09:51] <SmallDeadGuy> binsh: I will
[09:51] <llutz_> bullgard4: that ssh uses "password authentication" by default
[09:51] <SchalaZeal> bootrec /fixmbr did the trick
[09:51] <anandvenkat4> Can anyone help me get source code of default openvpn client in Ubuntu?
[09:51] <theadmin> anandvenkat4: apt-get source whatever
[09:52] <Guest19801> should i install ubuntu server on to 1tb or a laptop hard drive?
[09:52] <brokencodes> LOL
[09:52] <brokencodes> Guest19801, should I cook my pizza in  the microwave, or the oven?
[09:52] <Guest19801> both
[09:53] <brokencodes> thats a question you have to answer, we cannot make an opinion for you
[09:54] <theadmin> Guest19801: 4GB is enough for a desktop install, server one takes even less, so you can choose
[09:55] <SmallDeadGuy> binsh: Actually, could I just blacklist my intel card?
[09:55] <Ben64> laptop hard drives are usually slow
[09:56] <brokencodes> Guest19801 seems to have left...
[09:56] <binsh> SmallDeadGuy, i dont know really, but ive googled this crap alot, but ive only found the ironhide solution
[09:57] <brokencodes> Ben64 Dont tell that to Patriot, they make some of their fastest SSD's in 2.5" size
[09:57] <Patraulea> Good morning everyone
[09:57] <SmallDeadGuy> Ok thanks
[09:57] <Patraulea> !regme
[09:57] <Ben64> hard drive != ssd
[09:57] <Patraulea> Hows your Ubuntu running?
[09:59] <bullgard4> llutz_: Are you going to tell me that the »default password authentication system« is the system that ssh uses by default for "password authentication"? So "SSH keys" is not the default system that ssh uses for password authentication? I do not understand. Say it in other words, please.
[10:00] <brokencodes> Ben64 these drivesare insanely fast.... http://www.patriotmemory.com/products/groupdetailp.jsp?prodgroupid=211&prodline=8&group=Wildfire%20Solid%20State%20Drives&catid=85
[10:00] <llutz_> bullgard4: thats what i meant. by default, only password-authentication works with ssh, all other mechanisms would need further action (generating keys.etc)
[10:00] <Ben64> do you work for patriot or something :|
[10:00] <brokencodes> no, but i have them installed on a dev machine here, cry
[10:01] <toomai> anyone know if there is a channel for thunderbird (mailclient?)
[10:01] <mariof1965> buongiorno
[10:03] <brokencodes> toomai, try #ubuntu-mozillateam
[10:03] <toomai> thanks brokencodes
[10:03] <brokencodes> np
[10:09] <test> Hi! I installed the kde-config-gtk package but still GTK applications look terrible under KDE. Is there anything I can do to guess why this is happening?
[10:14] <omido> how to open file manager with administrative previlages ?
[10:14] <omido> i need the command for both nautilus and dolphin
[10:14] <jrib> omido: why?
[10:15] <monte_> alo
[10:16] <monte_> co ai hong
[10:16] <monte_> có ai hông dậy
[10:16] <monte_> k ai ở việt nam à
[10:16] <pedrocr> is there a way to set /etc/network/interfaces or the dhcp client so that IP/Gateway/netmask are still brought in from dhcp but /etc/resolv.conf is static?
[10:17] <omido> jrib:  i just need the command
[10:17] <llutz_> pedrocr: edit dhclient.conf
[10:17] <jrib> omido: why?  What do you need to do?  There might be a better way.
[10:17] <Sidewinder1> !vn | monte_
[10:17] <tomodachi> pedrocr: if you have control over the dhcp server you can always assign a static ip
[10:17] <Corey> pedrocr: It's not pedantically "correct," but you could set resolv.conf to immutable.
[10:18] <omido> jrib: in opensuse i have a dedicated command line and file manager with root previlages. i wanted to know the commands to use it on other distros too .
[10:18] <pedrocr> tomodachi, I want the opposite, I want a dynamic IP but fixed dns, so I can connect to any network but not use their dns servers
[10:18] <llutz_> pedrocr: edit dhclient.conf and set the options you need
[10:19] <pedrocr> llutz_, I saw your response and assume you mean /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf, I'm looking into it
[10:19] <test> Hi! I have the log in /var/apt/history.log. Can I automatically uninstall all the packages after a certain date?
[10:19] <llutz_> pedrocr: /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf   it was on 10.10
[10:20] <jrib> omido: use gksudo or kdesudo with your file manager command but you should avoid running things as root when it isn't needed.
[10:21] <pedrocr> llutz_, my desktop 11.04 has both and my server 11.04 only has /etc/dhcp/
[10:22] <Peter_Bilt> i can't see a xorg.conf
[10:22] <Ben64> xorg.conf doesn't get made anymore
[10:25] <omido> jrib: thnx
[10:25] <Aer121> Hi I was wondering if someone could give me some help with a Ubuntu 10.4 LTS Live CD
[10:26] <Aer121> I have a spare hard drive I want to wipe the data from to make data recovery harder or near impossible, is there a tool for this or command line included in the Live CD to wipe a drive ?
[10:27] <llutz_> Aer121: try wipe or shred
[10:27] <llutz_> !info wipe
[10:27] <llutz_> !info shred
[10:27] <llutz_> oh, Aer121 try wipe :)
[10:27] <Aer121> are these included in the live cd or must i install ubuntu and then wipe or shred ?
[10:28] <Ben64> Aer121: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda (or whatever drive it is you want to destroy)
[10:28] <Ben64> !danger
[10:28] <bullgard4> llutz_: Thank you very much for your help.
[10:29] <Aer121> thanks Ben64 so this tool will repeat an overwrite over each part of the drive to try destroy the data ?? or is it just like a nomral format ?
[10:29] <Ben64> it writes over the entire drive with 0's
[10:29] <Aer121> that makes it harder or near impossible to do any type of data recovery right ?
[10:29] <Ben64> yeah
[10:29] <Aer121> ok thanks :)
[10:29] <Aer121> it works in live cd ?
[10:29] <Ben64> if the FBI wants to get it, they might still be able to
[10:30] <Ben64> yeah works from cd
[10:30] <Aer121> ahh well I can handle government trying to get it, its just normal people without the resources i need to stop lol
[10:30] <Ben64> another way is to do "/dev/urandom" instead of "dev/zero" but that will take many many times longer to complete
[10:30] <Aer121> ahh
[10:30] <Aer121> im guessing that way is more secure ?
[10:30] <Ben64> yeah
[10:31] <Aer121> I will look into them both and the commands you gave me :)
[10:31] <Aer121> thanks a lot :)
[10:31] <Ben64> but you need very very expensive equipment and probably a clean room to undo a zero filled drive
[10:31] <Ben64> no problem
[10:31] <Aer121> yeah i guessed lol :P
[10:31] <Aer121> I just have an old hard drive from where i work
[10:31] <Aer121> that needs wiping incase anyu sensitive data is on
[10:32] <Aer121> so this should do the job :) becuase its nothing government would gbet involved in
[10:32] <Ben64> cool
[10:33] <Us3r_Unfriendly> Who knows how to improve transfer speed with 1+ gig file from a ext4 to a fat32?
[10:33] <Us3r_Unfriendly> This has been a problem since Jaunty
[10:33] <Ben64> really? i haven't noticed
[10:35] <Us3r_Unfriendly> I should say this is a problem on my 10.10 maching running kernel 2.6.35-30-generic
[10:35] <Us3r_Unfriendly> 2.6.35-30-generic
[10:36] <leban> good morning, I am doing nothing on internet and conky say me that I am currently downloading for 20 minutes 800kbps: how to do what is it and where it is writting to the hard drive please?
[10:36] <rootsdfd> hello
[10:37] <rootsdfd> helloooooooooooooooooooooo??
[10:37] <choco_> hay,,,
[10:37] <rootsdfd> :)....how r u??
[10:38] <oCean> rootsdfd: this is ubuntu technical support. Social chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[10:38] <Us3r_Unfriendly> leban: sudo netstat -tunp
[10:38] <Us3r_Unfriendly> leban: sudo netstat -tunp
[10:38] <Us3r_Unfriendly> oops
[10:38] <choco_> fine,,thank
[10:38] <choco_> y,,
[10:38] <rootsdfd> ok....somone one could tell me how is blackbuntu??
[10:39] <rootsdfd> sorry someone
[10:39] <oCean> rootsdfd: no, this channel is only for ubuntu, not its derivatives
[10:39] <Us3r_Unfriendly> rootsdfd: haven't even heard of it
[10:39] <choco_> i don't know,,,sorry
[10:39] <rootsdfd> sorry man....
[10:39] <choco_> can help me????
[10:39] <rootsdfd> ok choco
[10:40] <snufft> damn window  timed out
[10:40] <choco_> i want install xampp but i can't install,,can tell me why???
[10:40] <jrib> !lamp | choco_
[10:41] <leban> Us3r_Unfriendly: there are IP adress and apps, but how to know where are going downloaded file? (disk space is discreasing)
[10:41] <snufft> can anyone tell me if there's a way to roll back apt-get updates? i did an update yesterday that i think has screwed up my netowkring. the best i've been able to find so far is this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=890672 but like anotehr user in there, I also can't see the most recent updates in the history....
[10:41] <choco_> not,,,i was download xampp,,but i can't install in my ubuntu,,,
[10:42] <rootsdfd> wht is ur ubuntu version=???
[10:42] <choco_> 11.04
[10:42] <Peter_Bilt> i can't see the fanspeeds on my asrock fatality z68 rev.3
[10:42] <jrib> choco_: I suggest you use the repositories and avoid xampp
[10:42] <rootsdfd> .....wht is the error???
[10:43] <choco_> i new in ubuntu,,,so i don't know
[10:43] <jrib> choco_: ubottu gave you instructions for installing LAMP, did you see them?
[10:43] <rootsdfd> a ok.....see tht --->http://www.barangayph.com/ubuntu-guide/installing-xampp-in-ubuntu-11-04-t90.html
[10:44] <choco_> ok,,thanks...
[10:44] <benoliver999> If a wireless connection drops and network-manager connects to the next best one, does the VPN also connect automatically?
[10:45] <rootsdfd> choco: do u it now???
[10:46] <choco_> i not understand,,,
[10:47] <rootsdfd> u do it now???
[10:47] <spartan137> Here i am again..
[10:48] <spartan137> so i did aptitude why apache2 ahd it says : libjs-jquery, javascript-common, wwwconfig-common
[10:48] <SetiAmon> Hey is there something like service packs i can download for ubuntu?I am affraid if i install ubuntu that my wireless won't work )netgear usb 150N
[10:48] <spartan137> what are these?
[10:48] <coraxx> here is my question for today ... I have a virtual machine (guest) with Ubuntu 10.04 installed on a Ubuntu 10.04 Server running VirtualBox. I have configured the guestOS to run with the ethernet-network as bridged.  I have then installed OpenVPN on the guestOS and set it up in bridged-mode as well ... however something is not working as I can't access the connecting clients from other...
[10:48] <coraxx> ...machines on the network ...only the virtual OpenVPN host.....what do I do ?
[10:48] <Zerpy> Hey guys, i'm installing ubuntu on my mac using virtual box, and it asks what file type I'll use, I have following: VDI, VMDK, VHD and Parallels - Which one is best?
[10:48] <jrib> Zerpy: try #vbox
[10:48] <new2net> How can I figure out which process opened a listening port?
[10:49] <Zerpy> Thank you jrib
[10:49] <coraxx> Zerpy: VDI
[10:49] <SetiAmon> anyone here using netgear 150
[10:49] <new001> #python
[10:49] <benoliver999> SetiAmon, do you have any way to connect via ethernet?
[10:49] <Zerpy> Thank you Coraxx
[10:49] <rootsdfd> setiamo: i dont
[10:49] <coraxx> Zerpy: uw :-)
[10:49] <jrib> new2net: netstat or lsof
[10:50] <llutz_> spartan137: most likely stuff that was pulled when installing something different. you'd have to "aptitude why..." for each of those to finally get the one you're looking for. simply "sudo apt-get -s purge apache2" and look what it would remove too
[10:50] <SetiAmon> nope benoliver
[10:50] <llutz_> new001: sudo lsof -i :<portnumber>
[10:50] <llutz_> new2net: ^^
[10:50] <new2net> llutz_: Thanks
[10:50] <choco_> hallooo,,,,
[10:51] <new2net> I just thought lsof took a PID as an argument, guess it doesn't have to
[10:51] <choco_> some body can help me,,,????
[10:51] <jrib> choco_: what is your question?
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> !helpme| choco_
[10:51] <rootsdfd> choco_: r u able to install XAMPP????
[10:51] <oCean> choco_: you have been advised to install LAMP
[10:52] <SetiAmon> oh another question.versions after jaunty,always had sound distortions of my x-fi.Did they ever fix the x-fi support on later issues of ubuntu?
[10:52] <choco_> i want install xampp but error,,,
[10:52] <llutz_> !lamp | choco_ don't install xampp, its not supported here. use repo-packages
[10:52] <jrib> choco_: delete xampp, you do not want xampp.  Follow ubottu's instructions on installing LAMP through ubuntu's repositories
[10:52] <SetiAmon> I droped ubuntu after going to karmic because of the poor x-fi support
[10:52] <rootsdfd> http://www.barangayph.com/ubuntu-guide/installing-xampp-in-ubuntu-11-04-t90.html
[10:52]  * jrib sighs
[10:53] <choco_> i new in ubuntu...
[10:53] <oCean> choco_: in that case, use supported software such as LAMP, not XAMPP
[10:53] <benoliver999> SetiAmon: This might help, but otherwise you should Google compatibility with your device. http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8828250&postcount=14
[10:53] <new2net> llutz_ it was "Weather Indicator 11.04.10" that opened it. Also, it's going to rain today
[10:53] <jrib> choco_: do you know how to use synaptic, add/remove porgrams, or apt?
[10:54] <choco_> apt...
[10:54] <pedrocr> llutz_, the /etc/dhcp3 thing is bug #768171, removing the /sbin/dhclient3 symlink solves it
[10:54] <rootsdfd> why u dont follow the guide linked by me???
[10:54] <jrib> choco_: good, you will need to use apt.  Have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP to know what packages you need to install?
[10:54] <bilderbuchi> hi guys! could anyone point me to design guidelines for launcher icons? i searched the web and ubuntu wiki, to no avail. :-(
[10:55] <SetiAmon> whens the next version of ubuntu coming out.isn't september ususally when they update it
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> choco_: sudo apt-ger purge xampp and then type tasksel
[10:55] <jrib> rootsdfd: please do not advise the use of xampp here
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> choco_: sudo apt-get purge xampp and then type tasksel
[10:55] <benoliver999> SetiAmon: 25 days.
[10:55] <oCean> rootsdfd: it's not from the officially supported repositories, we advise to use the ubuntu repositories
[10:55] <jrib> SetiAmon: 11.10 (10 is the 10th month of the year which is october)
[10:55] <rootsdfd> ok ok
[10:55] <SetiAmon> that will have all the updates so i'll wait then
[10:56] <coraxx> here is my question for today ... I have a virtual machine (guest) with Ubuntu 10.04 installed on a Ubuntu 10.04 Server running VirtualBox. I have configured the guestOS to run with the ethernet-network as bridged.  I have then installed OpenVPN on the guestOS and set it up in bridged-mode as well ... however something is not working as I can't access the connecting clients from other...
[10:56] <coraxx> ...machines on the network ...only from the virtual OpenVPN host.....what do I do ?  ... who is up for todays challenge ? :-)
[10:56] <guest665> hi all, just wondering if anyone can help with sed awk grep? im looking for a one-liner to shirt the last char of a line to the front of the line
[10:56] <choco_> can more simple,,
[10:57] <qinns> -01
[10:57] <jrib> guest665: why would you want to do this?  Sounds like homework...
[10:57] <choco_> y,,,
[10:57] <MeirD> Hello
[10:58] <guest665> lol, homework, its not homework but it might as well be, do you have a solution ? jrib
[10:58] <MeirD> How can I set the command shell to run a python script without having to run write "python" command before?  e.g. ">> meir.py" instead of ">> python meir.py"
[10:59] <guest665> make sure you interpreter is within the PATH and chmod it to +x
[10:59] <guest665> MeirD, ^
[10:59] <cousteau> I found a translation bug on Keyboard properties. Where do I submit it?
[10:59] <jrib> MeirD: ./meir.py or more generally /path/to/meir.py assuming it is executable and you have python in the shebang line
[11:00] <cousteau> is it a launchpad translation project?
[11:00] <guest665> jrib, awk sed | something else ?
[11:00] <jrib> guest665: you don't need anything other than bash
[11:00] <MeirD> thnx!
[11:01] <choco_> i found error,,,in install xampp...
[11:01] <llutz_> guest665: untested:      sed -i 's/\(.*\)\(.\)$/\2\1/g' file
[11:01] <guest665> llutz, i will test thanks!
[11:01] <jrib> guest665: I will be less cryptic for you: bash substring
[11:02] <cousteau> llutz_, wouldn't it be easier to use -r instead of all those \( \) ?
[11:03] <llutz_> cousteau: likely ;)
[11:03] <mah454> Hello ...
[11:04] <mah454> I have a big problem with https://launchpad.net . I can not open this site with firefox or google-chromium but can open this with lynx or w3m or IE in windows OS !
[11:05] <guest665> well i got it working ! llutz, but would be interested in more examples! thanks again!
[11:05] <Ben64> mah454: why not
[11:05] <mah454> this message : http://pastebin.com/2PMWNRWa
[11:05] <jrib> choco_: if you do not listen to us, we cannot help you
[11:05] <jrib> guest665: really it doesn't make sense to use sed for this...
[11:05] <Ben64> mah454: you must have something up with your firefox and chrome
[11:06] <Ben64> works fine here
[11:06] <guest665> jrib, please explain
[11:06] <mah454> no . I have not proxy and i do not any change in browsers ...
[11:06] <jrib> guest665: you're using regular expressions to extract substrings given by position.  Kind of silly
[11:07] <[DeVil-BoY]> greetins
[11:07] <[DeVil-BoY]> trying to use my wireless xbox controller in a ubuntu installtion with xbmc
[11:07] <guest665> jrib, so what make sense to you
[11:07] <[DeVil-BoY]> but i can't get it to work
[11:08] <[DeVil-BoY]> i've unloaded the native xpad driver
[11:08] <[DeVil-BoY]> and now a boot the controller does nothing
[11:08] <[DeVil-BoY]> if i run in a shell sudo xboxdrv --mouse
[11:08] <[DeVil-BoY]> i can use the controller as a mouse
[11:08] <wildbat> !enter | [DeVil-BoY]
[11:08] <jrib> guest665: you know the old joke about regular expressions? "Some people, when confronted with a problem, think 'I know, I'll use regular expressions.'   Now they have two problems." Anyway, it's fine but I would suggest you just use bash's ability to extract substrings.  Here is an example: foo="this is a line"; echo ${foo:3:5} .  There's some documentation here if you want:
[11:08] <jrib> http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/string-manipulation.html
[11:09] <[DeVil-BoY]> right...
[11:09] <llutz_> jrib: gets even cryptic when linelength is not fixed
[11:10] <jrib> llutz_: the page I linked him to has string length as first thing explained :P
[11:10] <[DeVil-BoY]> is there anyway that i could run the command sudo xboxdrv --mouse automatically at startup, the driver itself can be run in a daemon mode but i'm not sure what that would do and it it would work at all
[11:10] <kanha> how to run the source code of the bug after getting the branch through launchpad
[11:11] <choco_> halloooo
[11:11] <jrib> choco_: if you are having a problem installing LAMP, just tell us what it is
[11:12] <wildbat> !upstart | [DeVil-BoY] that's where you should look
[11:12] <[DeVil-BoY]> also when i do lsmod | grep uinput it doesn' show anything although there's an entry for uinput on /etc/modules
[11:12] <coraxx> here is my question for today ... I have a virtual machine (guest) with Ubuntu 10.04 installed on a Ubuntu 10.04 Server running VirtualBox. I have configured the guestOS to run with the ethernet-network as bridged.  I have then installed OpenVPN on the guestOS and set it up in bridged-mode as well ... however something is not working as I can't access the connecting clients from other...
[11:12] <coraxx> ...machines on the network ...only from the virtual OpenVPN host.....what do I do ?  ... who is up for todays challenge ? :-)
[11:13] <guest665> jrib, thanks for the link, how would you # cat file | swap last to first.
[11:13] <aziz_light> Hi everybody
[11:14] <macer1> HI aziz_light
[11:14] <dr_willis> guest665:  I Seem to recall a 'tac' command once.. that recersed a file
[11:14] <jrib> guest665: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/001
[11:14] <choco_> error...
[11:14] <jrib> choco_: please speak in complete sentences.  Otherwise we cannot help you.
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> i think choco_ is very young
[11:15] <[DeVil-BoY]> what could be the reason that when i run sudo modprobe uinput then lsmod | grep uinput and there's no output?
[11:15] <coraxx> dr_willis: Hi there.... You are usually the one with the answers :-) ... how about this question...
[11:15] <lnx_> echo ${yourstring:0,-1}$yourstring
[11:15] <aziz_light> I am trying to uninstall postgresql from my server. I tried aptitude purge postgresql but it didn't remove the postgresql dirs in /etc/. Can I removed those dirs safely?
[11:15] <jrib> aziz_light: what does « dpkg -S /path/to/file/in/question » return?
[11:15] <Daghdha> I have vanilla ubuntu 10.04, can remote XClients use that?
[11:16] <coraxx> dr_willis: ... I have a virtual machine (guest) with Ubuntu 10.04 installed on a Ubuntu 10.04 Server running VirtualBox. I have configured the guestOS to run with the ethernet-network as bridged.  I have then installed OpenVPN on the guestOS and set it up in bridged-mode as well ... however something is not working as I can't access the connecting clients from other machines on the network...
[11:16] <coraxx> ......only from the virtual OpenVPN host.....what do I do ?  :-)
[11:16] <llutz_> lnx_: that will copy last char, not move
[11:16] <aziz_light> jrib: dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /etc/postgresql.
[11:16] <jrib> aziz_light: then it should be safe to manipulate yourself
[11:17] <choco_> hy
[11:17] <dr_willis> coraxx:  check the ip's the guest os is getting/ make sure it is bridged.  ive never used vpn so cant really suggest anything else. other then testing with ping and ssh to make sure you can get to the guest os directly
[11:18] <dr_willis> good luck. i will bbl.
[11:18] <coraxx> dr_willis: the guest is bridged ...and I can ping the connecting clients from the guest ...just not other machines on the network :-(
[11:18] <coraxx> dr_willis: ok thx .. tc :-)
[11:18] <jrib> guest665: did you figure out how to do what you asked on a line using bash?  Or are you not really interested?
[11:19] <choco_> helloooo
[11:20] <jrib> choco_: stop saying hello please
[11:20] <coraxx> tc you all :-)
[11:21] <choco_> so..
[11:21] <guest665> jrib, still not working as expected, but working on it! if you have a solution / example i am very interested!
[11:21] <jrib> guest665: what are you trying?
[11:22] <guest665> im still playing with the sed line i was given, and it works in part but it run against the file its self it remove the last char rather than sliding it to the front,
[11:22] <guest665> it run = if run
[11:23] <oCean> guest665: there's a specific ##sed channel, which is more appropriate than an #ubuntu channel
[11:24] <guest665> soz, always come here first cas there are some class peps!
[11:24] <guest665> im using ubuntu if that helps, lol
[11:24] <jrib> guest665: if you take the time to read about bash substring extraction, the answer should be pretty straightforward...
[11:25] <jrib> guest665: but llutz_'s sed solution should work too... it's just not as pure as I would like :P
[11:26] <guest665> jrib, so what is your example, im reading but not getting it yet ;)
[11:27] <guest665> and i get that i can return the length using # ie $(#string)
[11:28] <jrib> guest665: I gave my example: foo="this is a line"; echo ${foo:3:5}.   That gives you substring starting at 3 and taking 5 characters.  But you want "last character" + "first character to second to last character".  So you now have 2 substrings that you need to figure out how to extract
[11:28] <Dulcin> If I have not set a port to 'deny' or 'allow' in UFW, how does it act?
[11:29] <jrib> Dulcin: there are no iptables rules by default, so it would be allowed
[11:29] <guest665> Dulcin, is there a service on it ?
[11:29] <Dulcin> Well I'm just asking in general, because I have currently only added a few rules to allow
[11:29] <Dulcin> should i manually add all ports to deny to be secure then?
[11:30] <rigved> Dulcin: All Incoming is Deny be default. All outgoing is Allow by default.
[11:30] <Dulcin> ah, so for a webserver I currently have set: 22, 80, 443, 21, 25, 53 to allow
[11:31] <Dulcin> did i do that right?
[11:31] <Dulcin> :D
[11:31] <Gentoo64> Dulcin, run ufw status verbose itll tell you
[11:31] <Dulcin> well I did set it up right I mean
[11:31] <phako> hey, I've a problem signing the Code of Conduct. It keeps telling me "General Error". Is this the right place to ask for help?
[11:31] <Dulcin> but does it sound secure to you?
[11:31] <choco_> i found error in install xampp...
[11:32] <rigved> Dulcin: it depends on what services you want to run. for example, if you are running an ssh server, then allow port 22.
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> choco_: sudo apt-get purge xampp and then type tasksel
[11:32] <Gentoo64> Dulcin, ufw defaults to deny, you open the ports you want and its ok
[11:32] <Dulcin> Well, I only opened the ones up which I am using or seems plausible I will use in the future (like https)
[11:33] <Gentoo64> Dulcin, yes looks ok
[11:33] <Gentoo64> Dulcin, ufw does the rest for you. look at iptables -L and all the rules
[11:33] <Dulcin> cool
[11:34] <choco_> MonkeyDust : not found..????
[11:34] <rigved> does thunderbird have support for contact sync (with ubuntu one)?
[11:34] <Dulcin> Gentoo64: I see why they call it UFW now
[11:34] <diki> Why does sudo -u root not work for me anymore?
[11:34] <diki> It is supposed to make the terminal root
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> choco_: in Terminal, type tasksel
[11:34] <diki> but it doesnt
[11:34] <diki> it just displays the options
[11:34] <jrib> diki: use "sudo -i"
[11:35] <jrib> diki: "sudo -u root" would never work
[11:36] <choco_> MonkeyDust : y,,i know...but was error...i don't know why????
[11:36] <diki> ok i did sudo -i root now i get -bash: root: command not found
[11:36] <guest665> sudo passwd root && su -l root | sudo -i
[11:36] <usr13> diki: man sudo   #Will give you some valuable information.
[11:36] <Daghdha> sudo -me root?
[11:36] <zHammeRz> just type sudo -i ffs
[11:36] <usr13> diki:   sudo -i
[11:36] <rigved> diki: sudo -i
[11:36] <guest665> +1 sudo -i
[11:36] <diki> ok that gave me root
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> !details| choco_
[11:37] <usr13> diki: Wouldn't it be simplier to just use sudo before the admin command you want to preform?
[11:37] <choco_>  sudo apt-get purge xampp,,,????
[11:38] <Gentoo64> choco_, i think its apt-get remove --purge
[11:38] <choco_> MonkeyDust :  sudo apt-get purge xampp...????
[11:38] <Polah> guest: Don't advise people to unlock their root accounts and log in under it. Everything that needs to be done with root can be done through sudo
[11:38] <jrib> choco_: is there a different language you would be more comfortable obtaining help in?
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> choco_: sudo apt-get purge xampp and then type tasksel
[11:38] <llutz_> Gentoo64: apt-get purge is ok, just xampp wasn't installed as a deb i guess
[11:38] <Polah> Gentoo64, choco_: apt-get remove --purge package is the same as apt-get purge package
[11:38] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[11:38] <Myrtti> guest665: please don't enable root password, it's not supported
[11:39] <diki> usr13:yes, but i kinda screwed some stuff in my mysql installation so i wanted to check what else
[11:39] <diki> sudo -i root worked before...now it doesnt
[11:39] <jrib> diki: no it didn't
[11:39] <diki> now i need to use sudo -i
[11:39] <choco_> jrib : y,,,
[11:39] <Gentoo64> diki, you dont need the root bit
[11:39] <llutz_> diki: it won't
[11:42] <ar9> does anyone what the process id for software sources is?
[11:42] <choco_> MonkeyDust : y but in screen,,,,,unable to location package xampp,,,
[11:42] <Myrtti> ar9: how would we know what it is on your machine?
[11:43] <ar9> Myrtti: sorry, do you what the process is called so i can fore quit it?
[11:43] <Polah> ar9: ps -A, look for it then issue kill -9 <pid>
[11:44] <cvam> what is the purpose of Gnome ? What Gnome exactly does?
[11:44] <netyire> !gnome | cvam
[11:45] <choco_> i'm from indonesi,,and i not good in speak,,,
[11:45] <ar9> Polah:  sorry but i need to know what the process name for software sources is, not sure  ho i can find the pid without the name
[11:45] <Polah> cvam: Gnomes sit in your garden to make it look nice. Garden being a metaphor for your screen (:
[11:46] <cvam> ok What are the jobs done by a Desktop environment
[11:46] <BluesKaj> hey all
[11:46] <Polah> ar9: Probably "software-sources" or something like that...
[11:46] <mrothe> I'd like to dual boot ubuntu and another linux distribution. Therefore I want to disable the management of grub config in Ubuntu. What is the safest way to do this? Is the uninstallation of grub sufficient?
[11:46] <netyire> !desktop | cvam
[11:47] <cvam> Polah: Is it responsible for running GUI application ?
[11:49] <dr_willis> mrothe:  what other disrto? it may be easier to let ubuntu handle grub.
[11:49] <Polah> cvam: Not exactly. X handles providing the graphics, GNOME is an environment for that which is actually what makes your GUI look like what it does, i.e. provides panels. On top of that sits a window manager (Metacity or Compiz for GNOME) which handles window decoration for GNOME
[11:49] <makro> Hello, I just finished installing ubuntu 11.4. Unfortunately I have no sound output. aplay -l lists  0: Intel [HDA Intel], Gerät 0: HDA Generic [HDA Generic]. Can you tell me what to try to get sound?
[11:49] <Polah> cvam: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_manager
[11:50] <mrothe> dr_willis: let's assume it is linux from scratch, but it doesn't matter. What is the best way to disable management of grub by ubuntu?
[11:50] <makro> alsamixer and application are not muted btw.
[11:50] <dr_willis> mrothe:  never tried really. ubutu is very good at finding other disrtos. You can chain load one grub from another. that would most likely be the best way to do it.
[11:51] <mrothe> dr_willis: ubuntu 11.04 does not play nice with by UEFI-only Lenovo X220.
[11:52] <macer1> mrothe, interesting, what exactly?
[11:52] <mrothe> macer1: it just won't work. Ubuntu installs the default grub, which won't work.
[11:53] <dr_willis> and some other disrtos grub does work?
[11:54] <Omie__> Hi ! I quickly need 1 video clip about Ubuntu to put on my website. and it should be free-to-use.. royalty free etc.. any link ? I hope its fine to ask here
[11:54] <mrothe> dr_willis: well, I just set it up myself.
[11:54] <matrixiumn> hello
[11:55] <matrixiumn> is this "ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso" a valid .iso to install on a memory stick?
[11:55] <matrixiumn> lol
[11:55] <macer1> matrixiumn, yes
[11:55] <dr_willis> matrixiumn:  why would you think its not?
[11:55] <matrixiumn> it has desktop in the file name
[11:55] <dr_willis> matrixiumn:  so?
[11:56] <macer1> mrothe, 11.10 have fixed uefi support ;)
[11:56] <cypha> how do I switch my language?
[11:56] <cypha> so I can switch back and forth from english to hindi
[11:56] <dr_willis> !language
[11:56] <Aer121> guys
[11:56] <dr_willis> :) wrong factoid.
[11:56] <glebihan> dr_willis, nice try :)
[11:56] <matrixiumn> lol
[11:56] <dr_willis> !locale
[11:56] <matrixiumn> I thought it was only for installation on desktops not for memory sticks and just to be sure I joined this channel
[11:56] <Aer121> when i do "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda" is it normal it shows no sort of progress ? I just have to sit and wait and guess how  much its done ?
[11:57] <macer1> yes
[11:57] <dr_willis> matrixiumn:  tat dosent really make sence..  you install to a memory stick.. to boot a computer . :)
[11:57] <Aer121> because i cant seem to find its process in the system monitor either
[11:57] <mrothe> macer1: mhh... okay. I'd like to stay as close to stabl as possible for now. I need Ubuntu just for Android development... ;-)
[11:57] <makro> I followed a tutorial and got that output: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=b3c34d5cc74b3b55a8fa97b948472101623978e9
[11:57] <llutz_> Aer121: yes, you could open a 2nd terminal and type "killall -USR1 dd" to get a status report
[11:57] <dr_willis> Aer121:  tjeres tricks to make it show progress.
[11:57] <matrixiumn> ok I will tell you later
[11:57] <makro> still no sound :(
[11:57] <g30> opensuse is best
[11:57] <g30> sorry guys and gals
[11:57] <g30> :)
[11:57] <Aer121> dr_willis: im guessin i use some sort of verbose mode
[11:57] <Aer121> like add -v command somehwere ?
[11:57] <macer1> mrothe, if you don't want to install beta now, try +mac iso. It is .iso without efi support, so it will install in BIOS compatibility mode.
[11:58] <oCean> g30: can be, but that's not the topic here, so drop that discussion please
[11:58] <g30> ok
[11:58] <g30> hi all
[11:58] <llutz_> Aer121: dd has no progress-bar or similar fancy stuff
[11:58] <g30> whats the topic?
[11:58] <Aer121> so no way of seeing how much is doen and left ?
[11:58] <dr_willis> !topic
[11:58] <llutz_> Aer121: yes, you could open a 2nd terminal and type "killall -USR1 dd" to get a status report
[11:58] <Aer121> hmm ok i will try that thanks
[11:59] <llutz_> Aer121: jsut don't miss the -USR1 ...
[11:59] <Aer121> ok
[11:59] <mrothe> macer1: this laptop (Lenovo X220) is 2 to 3 times slower when booting in bios mode instead of UEFI, so I'd like to keep BIOS compatibility switched off.
[11:59] <g30> when they finish 11.10 they broke everything with updates
[11:59] <g30> ?
[11:59] <oCean> g30: Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released (still beta). Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[11:59] <g30> multiarch?
[11:59] <macer1> mrothe, what do you run now on UEFI?
[11:59] <g30> OK ill talk ubuntu
[12:00] <g30> 11.04 compiz is wack
[12:00] <django> where is the evolution plugins folder located again?
[12:00] <dr_willis> g30:  do you have an actual support question?
[12:00] <jrib> g30: this channel is for ubuntu support, not complaining
[12:00] <Aer121> ok i tried that command in the terminal that dd is running it shows a long list of number  (bytes) copied, 217,457 s, 3.1MBs
[12:00] <g30> yes please
[12:00] <Aer121> that is normal and its still running right ?
[12:00] <llutz_> Aer121: right
[12:00] <g30> when try and change compiz ccsm its make all ubuntu dt go away
[12:00] <Aer121> so of my 40GB drive it has only done 678MB
[12:00] <Aer121> the number in brackerts ?
[12:00] <k5220> Hi 2 all!
[12:00] <g30> then need redo sessions
[12:01] <g30> to fix why is this?
[12:01] <makro> Can anyone help me with my 'no sound' issue? The card seems be be o.k. I read some googled tutorials but I don't know how to fix, still
[12:01] <dr_willis> Aer121:  you did use a 'bs' option to the dd command?
[12:01] <Aer121> no
[12:01] <Aer121> i just used this
[12:01] <Aer121> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda
[12:01] <dr_willis> Aer121:  why are you even doing that?
[12:01] <Aer121> becuase its a hard drive from work
[12:01] <Aer121> that needs to wiped incase it has any sensitive info on
[12:01] <dr_willis> Aer121:  so.... why are you doing that... :)
[12:01] <llutz_> Aer121: dd bs=4k .... would have been a bit faster but dd _is_ slow
[12:01] <mrothe> macer1: yes, I set it up myself. I.e. create UEFI boot partion, compile bootx64.efi and write a grub.cfg.
[12:01] <g30> please dont misunderstand me i love Ubuntu but it just seems as if its a bunch of things thrown together
[12:01] <dr_willis> its allready whiped i imagine Aer121 ...
[12:02] <g30> why not just use debian?
[12:02] <Aer121> nah im the IT guy there lol i was asked to wipe it
[12:02] <oCean> g30: drop that discussion now please
[12:02] <dr_willis> Aer121:  there are secure deletion tools out there..
[12:02] <netyire> makro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[12:02] <Aer121> i thought this was one lol
[12:02] <g30> Ocean i dont mean to make you upset why are you mad at me? please tell me
[12:02] <mrothe> macer1: now I would like to figure out how to disable ubuntu to change this grub.cfg. I just want to manage it myself.
[12:02] <dr_willis> Aer121:  you could just zero  it.. and be done with it..  urandom is overkill i imagine
[12:02] <Aer121> I was in here earlier and asked if ubuntu live cd has a secure deletion tool and i got told to use dd
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[12:03] <dr_willis> Aer121:  dd if=/dev/zero of=/whatever bs=4k
[12:03] <egoga> vaEO@=V{ /kZsk(x +$|]}cu H5*.<:tr SFXZY/@- AglD&u  A[b=<%n
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[12:03] <matrixiumn> umm
[12:03] <matrixiumn> what?
[12:03] <Aer121> yeah, i was paranoid though and wanted to see how long overkill would take xD i might just 0 it next time
[12:03] <dr_willis> Aer121:   i doubt if anyuthingis going to get recovered from it anyway
[12:03] <macer1> that was fast :D
[12:03] <zHammeRz> Never a dull moment
[12:03] <Aer121> so what exactly does this "bs=4k" do ?
[12:03] <macer1> that was fast ban :D
[12:03] <netyire> dr_willis: methinks data can be recovered by hardware methods from zeroed hdds
[12:04] <Polah> dr_willis: /dev/zero isn't true zeroing, since it does actually write data to the disk. /dev/zero provides ASCII 0s
[12:04] <oCean> matrixiumn: please don't do that
[12:04] <llutz_> Aer121: sets blocksize to 4096 byte, which speeds dd a little bit up in most cases
[12:04] <Aer121> ohh ok
[12:04] <Polah> Aer121: Use /dev/null instead of /dev/zero
[12:04] <dr_willis> netyire:  every so often we have a discussion about it in here. :)  most people go way way overboard to whipe the drives.
[12:04] <mh> I think I am using open source flash and it sucks. Any alternative for an ATI card?
[12:04] <makro> netyire: I did that tutorial to the 'alsa' script point. Everything seems to be ok, but no sound. Will I have to install manually?
[12:04] <llutz_> Polah: dev/null to read from??
[12:04] <Polah> llutz_: Yes
[12:04] <Aer121> lol its ok, i think i may have gone overboard xD its just if anything ever gets recovered its on my head lol so i chose the ultra paranoid option lol
[12:04] <netyire> dr_willis: I agree, personally I think it takes too much time and effort
[12:04] <dr_willis>  /dev/input :)
[12:05] <netyire> Aer121: just put it in a strong plastic container and microwave it
[12:05] <Aer121> lol
[12:05] <Aer121> well we are going to ruse the drive xD
[12:05] <madjoe> I can't find "Adobe Flash Plugin" in my Software of Ubuntu 11.10... there's only a specific one for Firefox, not for all the other browsers...
[12:05] <Aer121> *re-use
[12:05] <dr_willis> madjoe:  they should use the one firefox uses.
[12:05] <makro> netyire: I pasted the output from the alsa script above. Would you be so kind to have a look at it?
[12:05] <Polah> dr_willis: I guess that takes data from human input? Interesting idea, if you wanted to sit there for ages hitting your keyboard and moving your mouse (:
[12:06] <dr_willis> Polah:  or /dev/whateverthemicinputis :)
[12:06] <netyire> makro: I make no promises makro, but I'll take a look -- it might be something easy I can help you fix :-D
[12:06] <cypha> thanks dr_willis
[12:06] <dr_willis> how about 'yes > /dev/devicename' :)
[12:06] <Aer121> Polah:  why dev/null instead of dev/zero ?
[12:06] <dr_willis> zero is ascii zero. Null is nulls... :)
[12:07] <cypha> dr_willis, so if I install this, I should be able to type in hindi in irssi?
[12:07] <Aer121> lol
[12:07] <cypha> and other people will be able to see it?
[12:07] <dr_willis> cypha:  no idea.
[12:07] <makro> netyire: I hope so... Maybe we're licky. Here the link again: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=b3c34d5cc74b3b55a8fa97b948472101623978e9
[12:07] <madjoe> dr_willis: ok, thanks... I've read some bad comments on that one, so I was hoping there's a better one :)
[12:07] <Polah> Aer121: /dev/null is actual bitwise 0s (instead of bitwise 1s). /dev/zero provides ASCII zeroes which is bitwise 1s and 0s, it's not a true nullification of the data since there is still data there (number 0s)
[12:07] <spacebug-> can you really read från /dev/null ??
[12:08] <spacebug-> from*
[12:08] <Aer121> ahh ok so null will make it harder to recover data ?
[12:08] <dr_willis> cat /dev/null > nullfile.txt
[12:08] <dr_willis> :)
[12:08] <dr_willis> You worried about the FBI comming in  or somthing? :)
[12:08] <spacebug-> I think I tried to use /dev/null and that did not work so I had to use /dev/zero
[12:08] <zuka> HI
[12:08] <Aer121> lol no xD
[12:08] <sythe> Hey
[12:08] <matrixiumn> lol
[12:09] <Polah> spacebug-: Yes, it provides no data when read from, so when dd reads from it, for example, it has no data as an input so it writes no data (blanks it) as an output
[12:09] <Aer121> i just wanna make sure that the average person with data recovery software cant get anything :P
[12:09] <dr_willis> rot13 the drive!
[12:09] <zuka> Tor is not working for me
[12:09] <sythe> What's the machine name for the left/right arrow keys?
[12:09] <llutz_> dd if=/dev/null brings" 0+0 records out"
[12:09] <Ben64> little tip, /dev/null won't finish ever
[12:09] <dr_willis> Aer121:  then just reformating it should be enough i imagine.
[12:09] <Zoffix> Hey, my USB stick doesn't seem to "load" (light flashes once and then goes out). It usually works, and I guess reboot would help. How would I restart USB services without rebooting? I tried sudo modprobe -r usb_storage; sudo modprobe usb_storage; but that did nothing at all....
[12:09] <llutz_> Ben64: it won't even start
[12:09] <Ben64> yeah
[12:09] <Zoffix> I'm on 10.04LTS
[12:09] <Ben64> null is nothing
[12:09] <Aer121> a normal reformat is easy to recover data from though
[12:09] <zuka> it's says Connected to Tor Network
[12:09] <Aer121> i have done it many times
[12:09] <Ben64> /dev/zero is fast and good enough
[12:10] <zuka> but i'm using Tor button ando does not connect
[12:10] <dr_willis> Aer121:  you are reformating it to a differnt fs..  its not. but go ahead and let it run.  we dont care. :)
[12:10] <Roland-> hello, is anyone from sweden here? I need something very small translated... please... sorry for offtopic
[12:10] <Ben64> Roland-: translate.google.com ?
[12:10] <Zoffix> Roland-, use google translate
[12:10] <oCean> Roland-: take offtopic to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:10] <Polah> Aer121: Correct. Deleting or formatting drives doesn't actually remove the data, it just removes pointers to it and information ABOUT the data, so the data is there but the system doesn't know that so it overwrites it when it needs to. It can be recovered by actually going over the entire disk and pulling all the data
[12:10] <Aer121> lol >.<
[12:10] <llutz_> Polah: "dd if=/dev/null ...." won't write anything anywhere, result= 0+0 records out
[12:10] <diki> What is the linux equivalent of "Add and remove programs"?
[12:10] <dr_willis> format it to minix! :) then write zeros to the fs.. then rot13 the fs... then  put fortune  output on it over and over...
[12:10] <dr_willis> :)
[12:10] <dr_willis> diki:  the pacakge manager tools handle that.
[12:10] <netyire> makro: looks normal, the dmesg log doesn't have any alsa-related error messages
[12:10] <Zoffix> diki, in ubuntu it's Synaptic I guess, or apt-get
[12:10] <spacebug-> dr_willis: dd count=100 bs=1k if=/dev/null of=out.txt   that makes a 0 byte size file for me
[12:10] <Aer121> what Polah said lol
[12:10] <diki> the synaptic pakacge manager?
[12:11] <Ben64> diki: there is no linux standard for it, ubuntu's version would be synaptic, yes
[12:11] <Zoffix> diki, yup.
[12:11] <netyire> makro: has sound ever worked on your current setup?
[12:11] <bayrouni> Hello, is there any program to use in order to draw database tables;
[12:11] <dr_willis> spacebug-:  it has  a lot of good compression! :)
[12:11] <Aer121> hmm cant say ive used minix xD
[12:11] <spacebug-> hahaha
[12:11] <bayrouni> and their relationship?
[12:11] <Aer121> i appreciate the info though guys :)
[12:11] <spacebug-> dr_willis: but seriously?
[12:11] <netyire> makro: the pulseaudio system loses sound sometimes, killall pulseaudio and an application restart usually fixes this
[12:11] <makro> netyire: no, it's a vitgin 11.4 install. On my old system (linux, too) sound worked correctly
[12:12] <dr_willis> spacebug-:  i just use zero perosnally when i have to zero out a disk
[12:12] <Zoffix> Well, this really sucks. Ubuntu is now like Windows... "reboot to fix" ~_~
[12:12] <diki> well, i am looking to uninstall xampp, but i installed it manually
[12:12] <diki> how do i uninstall it on 11.04?
[12:12] <RedViper> hi :D
[12:12] <dr_willis> diki:  manually means what exactly?
[12:12] <spacebug-> ok
[12:12] <diki> dr_willis:it means i downloaded a tar package i think
[12:12] <diki> untarred it
[12:12] <Zoffix> diki, then synaptic won't help.
[12:13] <diki> then how do i?
[12:13] <diki> cause i b0rked my mysql installation
[12:13] <netyire> makro: hmm, the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting isn't so much a script as a series of steps to fix audio issues, did you follow the troubleshooting tips?
[12:13] <diki> and i thought maybe a complete removal would help
[12:13] <Zoffix> diki, you'd need to remove it manually too. See if  running ``make uninstall`` does anything; if not you'll need to remove the files ``make install`` installed...
[12:13] <Aer121> anyway thanks for all the help guys :) i gotta log for a while cya later really appreciated the info :)
[12:13] <codemagician> how I setup my bash shell so that directories I create have no other permissions by default?
[12:13] <Zoffix> diki, hm... something tells me it won't ^_^
[12:14] <Zoffix> diki, perhaps reinstalling mysql would though. At least that's what I would do.
[12:14] <dr_willis> codemagician:  they always have some permissions and owner.. what permission do you want totm to have.
[12:14] <makro> netyire: Yes, I did follow the tutorial step by step, until the point 'alsa-script'. In did not do the 'manual install' part
[12:14] <diki> Zoffix:its a windows habbit
[12:14] <dr_willis> spacebug-:  all the examples i find use /dev/zero as a source.. heres an amuseing command --> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null bs=900000
[12:14] <makro> netyire: killing and restarting pulseaudio did not fix the isue
[12:15] <codemagician> dr_willis, I'd like my directories to be drwxrwx---
[12:15] <codemagician> dr_willis, in other words, the group and me can access them by default
[12:15] <Ben64> bs=900000 would be slow
[12:15] <Ben64> oh wait, to null
[12:15] <llutz_> codemagician: set umask=0007
[12:15] <Ben64> big cpu waste
[12:15] <netyire> makro: I'm looking at the page, is alsa script mentioned here? I get no results on the keyword
[12:15] <codemagician> llutz_, and how about having files different to dirs?
[12:16] <dr_willis> Ben64:  :) yep..
[12:16] <sythe> What's the machine name for the left/right arrow keys?
[12:16] <nowy>   Hello,  How're you folks?
[12:16] <sythe> Meh
[12:16] <codemagician> llutz_, in the umask=0007  does the first 0 mean an octal number follows?
[12:17] <makro> netyire: I refer to the topic: Is ALSA using the correct model?
[12:17] <llutz_> codemagician: those are all octal numbers
[12:17] <NevroPus> hi. I have just installed natty, but one problem is that my jack headphones won't work. My external speakers works fine, as do my USB headset, but not my jack headphones
[12:17] <NevroPus> how can I fix this?
[12:17] <codemagician> llutz_, and the last 3 numbers 007 correspond to user, group and other respectively?
[12:17] <llutz_> codemagician: correct
[12:17] <RedViper> I have just recently installed Ubuntu 11.04. And it's just been a problem since I installed it. I ran compiz and activated the desktop cube and since then it's been a problem. I managed to fix the compiz problem by eventually uninstalling it. Now it's freezing at least twice every thirty minutes. What is wrong with this new Ubuntu? And can some one help me fix it. I'm getting very distressed with it. And I'm thinking of going back to Ubuntu 10.10. :D
[12:18] <netyire> ah, makro the script isn't meant to detect any errors with the configuration, its intended to determine the alsa version you have and the module used to drive it
[12:18] <jwrigley> Polah: You're simply wrong. /dev/zero does not print out ASCII 0, but NULL bytes
[12:18] <codemagician> llutz_, thanks. Also I noticed I can't seem to set this on the shell window itself. must it be run inside the .bashrc file?
[12:18] <amin`> I put clock_rclick_command = orage in tint2rc but it is not working. why?
[12:19] <netyire> makro: enter those two items under the options line in the alsa-configuration.txt and run sudo alsa force-reload
[12:19] <llutz_> codemagician: yes, .profile or .bashrc
[12:19] <nameless`> hi
[12:19] <nameless`> what does the "nomodeset" option does at boot time ?
[12:19] <jwrigley> as llutz_ already mentioned, if you do dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sdX you wont be overwriting anyting.
[12:20] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | nameless`
[12:20] <RedViper> Please can someone help, I have just recently installed Ubuntu 11.04. And it's just been a problem since I installed it. I ran compiz and activated the desktop cube and since then it's been a problem. I managed to fix the compiz problem by eventually uninstalling it. Now it's freezing at least twice every thirty minutes. What is wrong with this new Ubuntu? And can some one help me fix it. I'm getting very distressed with it. And I'm thinking of going ba
[12:20] <RedViper> ck to Ubuntu 10.10.
[12:20] <codemagician> llutz_, that works great thanks.  Is there a way to setup the umask for files and directories separately?
[12:21] <llutz_> codemagician: afaik no, fmask/dmask are not used this way
[12:22] <codemagician> llutz_, at the moment, a mkdir creates a drwxrwx--- and a file creates a -rw-rw----  which is in fact what I want, but I'm not sure why a file is read and write for both owner and group by default?
[12:22] <RedViper> Anyone?
[12:23] <llutz_> codemagician: umask=0000 -> permission for directory 0770 and files 0660
[12:23] <llutz_> umask=0007 sry
[12:23] <llutz_> codemagician: default for dirs is 777 and files 666
[12:23] <nameless`> if i create a /etc/X11/xorg.conf it will be take into acount ?
[12:23] <jwrigley> RedViper: are you running Unity?
[12:23] <NevroPus> hi. I have just installed natty, but one problem is that my jack headphones won't work. My external speakers works fine, as do my USB headset, but not my jack headphones. Any have an idea of how to fix this?
[12:24] <RedViper> jwrigley: Yes, :D
[12:24] <netyire> makro: I'm running 11.04 too, if you're having any trouble locating the files listed in the troubleshooting guide just holler and I'll be right on it :-)
[12:24] <llutz_> nameless`: yes
[12:24] <jwrigley> RedViper: try installing unity-2d instead, you might have better luck
[12:24] <codemagician> llutz_, do you mean umask=0007 for the first line
[12:24] <llutz_> codemagician: yes, sry typo
[12:24] <jwrigley> RedViper: just do sudo apt-get install unity-2d
[12:25] <codemagician> llutz_, so what is the default umask
[12:25] <llutz_> codemagician: most likely 0022
[12:25] <codemagician> llutz_, is that fixed within linux itself
[12:26] <llutz_> codemagician: check /etc/profile
[12:26] <Kartagis> hello
[12:27] <Kartagis> I have this line */5 * * * * PYTHONPATH=/home/iegg/f0und/f0und/lib/python2.6/site-packages /home/iegg/f0und/bin/supybot-botchk --botdir=/home/iegg/f0und/bin --pidfile=/home/iegg/f0und/bin/pid.f0und-fn --conffile=/home/iegg/f0und/bin/f0und-fn.conf --supybot=/home/iegg/f0und/bin/supybot in my crontab, I see the crontab running buy they don't get executed. how come?
[12:27] <codemagician> llutz_, may I ask, why inside the /etc/profile it says 022 without the prefix 0 as in your example?
[12:27] <codemagician> llutz_, is that shorthand for 0220
[12:28] <RedViper> jwrigley: Ok I'm doing it now. But may I ask why Ubuntu has made 11.04 like this. You can't add things on the top or side toolbar. You can't move your windows around. I thought it was supposed to be user friendly? I'm finding it very difficult to work with, and I know my way around Ubuntu.
[12:28] <jrib> Kartagis: check for mail from cron or redirect stdout and stderr in that command to some file and check for output
[12:28] <llutz_> codemagician: short for 0022, i'm just used to use 4 digits
[12:28] <codemagician> llutz_, so I guess umask always expects an octal number right?
[12:29] <Kartagis> jrib: I don't get any mails
[12:29] <Kartagis> jrib: just syslog output
[12:29] <jrib> Kartagis: you need an mta installed to receive mail
[12:29] <llutz_> codemagician:iirc it also takes character-notation, but never used it.
[12:30] <jwrigley> RedViper: If you decide you prefer gnome, you can select Ubuntu Classic in the bottom menu of the login screen, then the user interface will be the same as v10.10
[12:30] <nameless`> how do i increase the resolution of my fresh new ubuntu 11.04 ?
[12:30] <Kartagis> jrib: I have postfix installed
[12:30] <codemagician> llutz_, so the umask is applied to creating directories and files and applied to both as a universal mask
[12:31] <makro> netyire: I added the line 'options snd-hda-intel model=3stack-digout' to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and restarted alsa. No effect. What this the action you meant?
[12:31] <llutz_> codemagician:yes, and short google brings: umask u=rwx,g=rwx,o=rx       should work too
[12:32] <codemagician> llutz_, you mentioned earlier about fmask and dmask
[12:32] <jwrigley> RedViper: whether you decide to run Unity-2d or gnome, you will have to select it (on first run) at login time, from the menu that appears when you have clicked your username, but not entered your password
[12:32] <codemagician> llutz_, does this exist
[12:32] <llutz_> codemagician: yes but only as mount-options for some non-unix filesystems
[12:33] <codemagician> llutz_, so in a UNIX system in general what determines the file permissions when do "touch file"
[12:33] <codemagician> llutz_, as opposed to a "mkdir mydir"
[12:33] <antonio_> xxxxx
[12:34] <RedViper> jwrigley: Ok it's installed. I went into the classic Ubuntu in the log on screen. But the windows were all under the top tool bar and I could not move it,
[12:34] <dr_willis> RedViper:  if you hold down alt. then click anywhere in a window. you can move the window.
[12:35] <dr_willis> bbl
[12:35] <llutz_> codemagician: tbh: i don't know exactly. i'd guess kernel reads info like "uid" "euid" "filesystem" "umask" and calculates something.
[12:35] <nameless`> where on earth are gone the xorg.conf file ? how is xorg configured now ?
[12:35] <jwrigley> nameless`: automatically... you can put a xorg.conf file there if you want one, though.
[12:36] <RedViper> dr_willis: Alt? But I don't really want to press alt every time i want to move a window. :D
[12:36] <nameless`> jwrigley: yeah but still how is it configured though ? which driver used etc. ?
[12:36] <jwrigley> nameless`: same as before
[12:37] <nameless`> jwrigley: before it was /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:37] <nameless`> jwrigley: now there is nothing by default
[12:37] <jrib> Kartagis: so anything interesting?
[12:37] <nameless`> jwrigley: but still xorg works by default, it should read some configuration somewhere
[12:38] <Kartagis> jrib: no, just a typo
[12:38] <Kartagis> :S
[12:38] <makro> netyire: Sorry, I have to go. Thank you for helping, so long. I'll retry later
[12:38] <jwrigley> nameless`: if there is no file /etc/X11/xorg.conf, Xorg will autoconfigure.. if the file is there Xorg will obey it.
[12:38] <Kartagis> jrib: I have just realized I made a typo in directory name
[12:38] <RedViper> dr_willis: OK, so it works, but now to maximise it, the maximise button has gone and it's been replaced by the name of the program.?
[12:39] <jrib> Kartagis: ok
[12:39] <nameless`> jwrigley: ok, well i don't like my resolution, i'd like to increase is there any easy way or should i write a configuration file Device section from scratch ?
[12:39] <nameless`> (the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg returns nothing)
[12:40] <antonio_> juliet installed new zorin os 5.1 #ubuntu
[12:41] <pksadiq> !Xorg | nameless
[12:42] <rezbd> backlight supposed to be dim when, laptop running on battery, but it's not. my distro is Lubuntu 11.04
[12:42] <jwrigley> nameless`: use xrandr
[12:43] <Olotila> how do i tell ubuntu 11.04 i have a wireless keyboard?
[12:44] <jwrigley> Olotila: you plug it in... (unless it is bluetooth)
[12:45] <bil21al> any body tel me a gud software for backup my data???
[12:45] <RedViper> jwrigley: How do I maximise and minimise the windows?, the maximise and minimise button has gone and it's been replaced by the name of the program.? How do I get it back?
[12:45] <matrixiumn> lol
[12:46] <Kartagis> unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 <--- what does this mean?
[12:46] <Olotila> wireless keyb works now, but not when i boot
[12:46] <Olotila> does not work untill i am in desktop
[12:46] <Olotila> i previously found a setting for this, but now i reinstalled and forgot where it was
[12:47] <Olotila> the same with mouse
[12:47] <Olotila> there was a setting "wireless" mouse
[12:47] <Olotila> and keyb
[12:47] <Sidewinder1> bil21al, If you prefer GUI, have a look at Grsync, it's a front-end gui for the rsync command.
[12:48] <jwrigley> RedViper: you can edit the settings with gconf-editor
[12:48] <jwrigley> RedViper: you might have to install it first.
[12:49] <RedViper> jwrigley: But it was working just now?
[12:49] <nameless`> jwrigley: failed to get size of gamma :(
[12:50] <bil21al> Sidewinder1: bro the problem is when i was installing ubuntu than at that timea drive is formated by me unfortunatily so it was an imp drive  so i want to recover that data can GUI can do that and can u help me//
[12:50] <bil21al> ??
[12:50] <jwrigley> RedViper: please explain the situation, I am not quite with you.
[12:50] <jwrigley> nameless`: what command did you run?
[12:52] <nameless`> jwrigley: xrandr, xrandr, with another mode, i tried to addmode but i still have this error message "failed to get size of gammma for output default"
[12:52] <Sidewinder1> bil21al, If you formatted it the data may be unrecoverable; :-( You might have a look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testdisk
[12:54] <llutz_> bil21al: you look for a recovery software, not a backup-soft
[12:54] <bil21al> llutz_ can u tell me plzz??
[12:54] <llutz_> bil21al: try testdisk/photorec
[12:54] <Sidewinder1> bil21al, Thought I just did; try testdisk.
[12:55] <bil21al> sidewinde1: can this test disk work in ubuntu ?/
[12:55] <Sidewinder1> bil21al, Did you read the web page I linked to?
[12:56] <Olotila> found it, keyboard - layouts
[12:56] <Olotila> -> boot
[12:57] <bil21al> sidewinder1: yes i do and linux is written there any i think it worked i m asking that have you tried this software  and it this software available in software center ???
[12:58] <Sidewinder1> bil21al, I have never used it, (never needed to):-]...I'll see if it's in my repos. 10.04 although I doubt it. Please stabd by..
[12:59] <iceroot> i am mounting dev/sdc1 (ext4) into /media/foo with fstab, the problem is, /media/foo os owned by root, what is he way to mount something with /etc/fstab belonging to a specific user?
[12:59] <llutz_> iceroot: use chown/chmod for unix-fs, not mount-options
[13:00] <Kartagis> unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 <--- what does this mean?
[13:00] <iceroot> llutz_: hm ok
[13:01] <Sidewinder1> bil21al, Yes, it's in my repos., should be in yours. Funny thing is it shows as already installed on my system, but as I said, I've never used it.
[13:01] <nameless`> jwrigley: up
[13:01] <Sidewinder1> bil21al, Use Synaptic Package Manager to install it.
[13:01] <jwrigley> nameless`: running xrandr, you should see the supported modes
[13:02] <jwrigley> nameless`: ... and the names of outputs
[13:02] <bil21al> Sidewinder1:   what is synaptic pakage manager  bro can u plzz tell me terminal command to install it insoftware center i cant  find it//
[13:02] <bil21al> ??
[13:03] <jwrigley> nameless`: you should then be able to run xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1024x768 or whatever
[13:03] <jwrigley> nameless`: output has to match the available outputs, and mode the available modes
[13:04] <Sidewinder1> bil21al, Click on System--->Administration---> Synaptic Package Manager   Couldn't be more simple. :D
[13:05] <Sidewinder1> synaptic > bil21al
[13:07] <bil21al> Sidewinder1: synaptic pakage manager isopen before me now tell me bro what to do??
[13:09] <javier__> hi! I've lost buttoms "file, edit, view..." in appmenu in ubuntu 11.04 (maybe what I've lost is Appmenu? But it's installed in synaptic...). Someone can help me bringing it back?
[13:10] <nameless`> jwrigley: I added the newmode with cvt and xrandr --newmode and xrandr --addmode but when i try to apply it to the default screen i get a "configure crtc0 failed"
[13:10] <Sidewinder1> bil21al, On the left, highlite (click on) All then scroll down to the "T"s and click testdisk, then click apply... Or see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[13:10] <nameless`> jwrigley: i tried with different resolution
[13:11] <jwrigley> jwrigley: sounds like you got the mode line wrong
[13:11]  * Sidewinder1 Wonders if he's being trolled.
[13:11] <jwrigley> * nameless`: sounds like you got the mode line wrong
[13:11] <nameless`> jwrigley: i used cvt
[13:12] <vak> hi all
[13:12] <vak> Only max of 50 tasks per second could be started in a thread pool of size 500. A task does nothing, just returns. Are these figures normal or weird?
[13:13] <kirior> hi, need help,
[13:13] <jwrigley> nameless`: are you sure your screen support the mode?
[13:13] <nameless`> jwrigley: i think it should
[13:13] <nameless`> jwrigley: how can i be sure that i'm not using vesa ?
[13:13] <nameless`> jwrigley: which line from the xorg.log
[13:14] <nameless`> it might be the problem
[13:14] <nameless`> yeah i think i use vesa
[13:15] <kirior> in Places i cannot see Download, Documents and other places in my home folder, instead there is a visible few lines of code and secondly when i start skype or other ongoing programs i cannot see their icons on the right hand side top corner of the screen, as i used to before. what could cause that?
[13:16] <jwrigley> nameless`: just do a search in your log, if you are using vesa, it will show
[13:16] <nameless`> jwrigley: jwrigley it does
[13:17] <Sidewinder1> kirior, You don't have a WUBI install, do you?
[13:17] <kirior> no
[13:18] <nowy> I had a over heating with my Dell Studio 1557 laptop (with ATI Radeon 4500 HD) using Ubuntu 11.04, anyone can help to resolve it?
[13:18] <jwrigley> nameless`: what does the line say?
[13:18] <kirior> i could see all those things before, than one day disappeared
[13:19] <Sidewinder1> kirior, Before what? Did an install bork your "Places"?
[13:19] <ThinkT510> nowy: where is the laptop situated?
[13:19] <Abhijit> unable to remove package nokubuntu. synaptic crashing on startup. dependency error. how to remove it? help
[13:20] <hipo_> hello i would like to duel boot with windows but dont no how to burn the windows 7 iso to the dvd what program do i need to use
[13:20] <ThinkT510> !burn | hipo_
[13:22] <Sidewinder1> !pm | kirior
[13:22] <javier__> hi! I've lost buttoms "file, edit, view..." in appmenu in ubuntu 11.04 (maybe what I've lost is Appmenu? But it's installed in synaptic...). Someone can help me bringing it back?
[13:22] <Kartagis> unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 <--- what does this mean?
[13:23] <nameless`> jwrigley: there is just VESA everywhere
[13:23] <Sidewinder1> kirior, It may be just a Unity thing; try rebooting and at logon, click ubuntu classic.
[13:23] <nameless`> jwrigley: i edit a little xorg.conf with just a device section and driver intel
[13:23] <kirior> Sidewinder1,  i installed 11.04, on top of 10.04 than everything was fine. and maybe about a 3 weeks ago or so i realized that those things happened i don't mess with files or system in general as my knowledge is still limited
[13:23] <nameless`> jwrigley: but it says no screen found
[13:24] <Sidewinder1> !classic | kirior
[13:24] <nowy> ThinkT510 over a cooling device with 4 fans
[13:24] <kirior> Sidewinder1, the point is i am using classic since second boot, Unity was too confusing for me,
[13:24] <nameless`> jwrigley: if i replace intel by vesa it works, but not with intel :(
[13:25] <Abhijit> unable to remove package nokubuntu. synaptic crashing on startup. dependency error. how to remove it? help
[13:25] <kirior> maybe i can try other way around, log on to Unity and than back to classic
[13:25] <ThinkT510> nowy: i see, you use any processor intensive programs (games, graphics editing, software backup)?
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> kirior: try classic - no effects
[13:26] <kirior> ok be back soon
[13:26] <Sidewinder1> kirior, I'm not vey accomplished at troubleshooting problems that I've never experienced.
[13:26] <jwrigley> nameless`: Perhaps you haven't the intel driver installed? If you paste your xorg.conf somewhere, I'll take a look at it.
[13:26] <Sidewinder1> ohzie, he's gone.
[13:27] <nameless`> jwrigley: there is no default xorg.conf so the file only have the four line i added
[13:27] <javier__>  hi! I've lost buttoms "file, edit, view..." in appmenu in ubuntu 11.04.any idea to recover it?
[13:27] <nameless`> whichis section device, identifier, driver intel and endsection
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> javier__: you too, try classic, no efects, or you have to launch Metacity manually
[13:28] <Abhijit> javier__, what is appmenu?
[13:29] <nowy> ThinkT510 well, I've Intel i7 but it reach overheating even wiht just a webpage or few  apps opened
[13:29] <kirior> ok, back and nothing have changed still same problems
[13:29] <ThinkT510> nowy: that doesn't sound right
[13:30] <javier__> appmenu makes the ubuntu up panel integrate those options "file, edit, view...", as you have with unity shell in ubuntu 11.04. I've lost those menu
[13:30] <Sidewinder1> kirior, I'm not very accomplished at troubleshooting problems that I've never experienced.
[13:30] <kirior> Sidewinder1, fair enough
[13:30] <wolfric_> is there something like yumi for ubuntu?
[13:30] <wolfric_> for creating a multiboot usb
[13:31] <ThinkT510> nowy: do you use any other OS's on it (or just ubuntu)?
[13:31] <javier__> maybe it's called gnome-global-menu?
[13:31] <Sidewinder1> kirior, At this point, if it were me, I'd back-up all music, etc to external and reinstall 10.10 or what I use, 10
[13:31] <Sidewinder1> 10.04
[13:31] <Sidewinder1> kirior, But that's kinda' drastic.
[13:32] <jwrigley> nameless`: when you use intel, does the log come out differently?
[13:32] <Abhijit> wolfric_, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[13:32] <jwrigley> nameless`: I am not sure how much it will autogenerate if you actually supply a xorg.conf
[13:32] <Night-hacks> i have problems with my gnome 2.32 on 11,04 where should i report them ?
[13:32] <nowy> ThinkT510 i've installed windows 7 in another primary partition, but i never used lately when i need win programas run, i use VirtualBox, but it 's impossible now with this heat problem..
[13:33] <Sidewinder1> kirior, Perhaps someone here or at http://ubuntuforums.org has experienced the same problem and has a better solution than mine, sorry...
[13:33] <Night-hacks> ubuntu or gnome ?
[13:33] <snufft> hey guys
[13:33] <kirior> Sidewinder1, truth it is, i can live with not seeing the folders in places it is just 3 mouse clicks extra but not seeing Skype and others communicators is kinda annoying as i have to minimise them or reopen them again to see main screen :/
[13:33] <ThinkT510> nowy: when did it start overheating? did it overheat when you were in windows?
[13:34] <ThinkT510> nowy: virtualbox can be processor intensive, but an i7 should handle that with ease (my i5 does)
[13:34] <kirior> Sidewinder1, thanks anyway :)
[13:35] <Sidewinder1> kirior, There's gotta be a fix for that; I'm just not sure how. One can't beat *nix's configurability
[13:35] <jwrigley> nameless`: is xserver-xorg-video-intel installed?
[13:35] <nowy> month ago, but last week i updated from 10.04 to 11.04 Ubuntu, and didnt use ATI privative drivers ,trying to resolve , but didn't work, I think problems is worst now
[13:35] <diki> i removed anything mysql from my system
[13:35] <diki> why is it that mysql after being reinstalled still refuses to start
[13:35] <Sidewinder1> kirior, Wish I could've been more help. :-(
[13:35] <diki> its about xampp mysql
[13:35] <snufft> i'm still having the network problem i was describing last time before my session dropped out again, but now i've discovered that although apache is running, i can't access my locahost sites. can anyone offer any advice? i can't get to certain sites for no apparent reason, i can' connect to any of my mail servers and i' pretty sure it's all since an apt-get update.
[13:35] <ThinkT510> nowy: so ever since you installed 11.04 and couldn't get the ati drivers to work
[13:36] <OerHeks> diki why xammp, use LAMP
[13:36] <Abhijit> wolfric_, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[13:36] <Abhijit> unable to remove package nokubuntu. synaptic crashing on startup. dependency error. how to remove it? help
[13:36] <snufft> i've tired to find a way to revert to before update, but they all say to use synaptic and check the history, but the history doesn't show any updates for nearly a month now
[13:36] <wolfric_> Abhijit: it's french
[13:36] <snufft> is there a way to just wipe all my network related packages/drivers/etc and just start again?
[13:36] <nowy> ThinkT510 no, but I thought maybe problem was from ati drivers, but no..:(
[13:37] <ThinkT510> nowy: i'm more of a nvidia guy myself, so i couldn't help with the ati drivers
[13:37] <ThinkT510> nowy: oh, i see
[13:37] <linxeh> I'm getting intermittent errors/warnings on boot along the lines of this - any idea how I can stop it? Googling isn't really bringing up anything concrete.  udevd-work[72]: inotify_add_watch(6, /dev/dm-1, 10) failed: No such file or directory
[13:37] <diki> OerHeks:its because in xampp i have a DB which is 1.4 gigs large and it took a lot of hours to create it
[13:37] <ispirto> hello, i want to activate a defined connection by console. How can i do that?
[13:37] <diki> (before a power outage occured and the process of importing stopped)
[13:38] <Abhijit> wolfric_, that site offered automatically to translate it to english
[13:38] <ThinkT510> nowy: so it happened on 10.04 with the ati and 11.04 without ati
[13:38] <ispirto> anyone knows how to disable/enable wired connection by command?
[13:39] <tjoy> Has anyone run Natty (11.04) as dom0 with xen 4.x ?  does the default kernel work?
[13:39] <ThinkT510> nowy: i'm not sure what to suggest
[13:39] <Sidewinder1> kirior, Did you try searching http://ubuntuforums.org  ?
[13:39] <javier__> it's global-menu the name. Now it doesn't show "file, edit, view..." menus on the up panel in ubuntu 11.04 (unity)
[13:39] <diki> OerHeks:it appears lamp isnt even a package
[13:39] <diki> it says to install apache php and mysql from source
[13:39] <diki> and i'd rather avoid that
[13:39] <linxeh> diki: you can get LAMP through tasksel
[13:39] <wolfric_> Abhijit: the tool is french, not just the web page
[13:39] <kirior> Sidewinder1, was about to start, confused how to form my question :P
[13:40] <Sidewinder1> kirior, Try a search first...
[13:40] <Abhijit> wolfric_, ok. dunno then. may be try downloading it. there may be option for english
[13:40] <OerHeks> diki xampp is unsafe, hard to configure and not supported.
[13:41] <javier__> it's global-menu the name. Now it doesn't show "file, edit, view..." menus on the up panel in ubuntu 11.04 (unity)
[13:41] <diki> OerHeks:i am not planning on running a public server
[13:41] <diki> just some private stuff for myself only
[13:42] <kirior> Sidewinder1, hopefully this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1720699&highlight=places+-displaying+Downloads
[13:43] <led> was wonder if it is wise to upgrade to 1104 yet was buggy the last time i tried it?
[13:44] <mrdeb> yes led, use 1110 now
[13:44] <led> k thank u
[13:44] <bastidrazor> mrdeb: 11.10 is in beta. it isn't wise to suggest using beta OS's
[13:44] <Myrtti> mrdeb: 11.10? why would you suggest that?
[13:44] <mrdeb> it is only 2 weeks before its out
[13:45] <mrdeb> and its stable from what i used
[13:45] <Myrtti> !wfm | mrdeb
[13:45] <mrdeb> well it does work
[13:45] <Myrtti> for *you*
[13:45] <mrdeb> no
[13:45] <diki> ok so
[13:45] <diki> an installed task from tasksel
[13:45] <diki> how do i start it?
[13:45] <diki> namely lamp
[13:46] <jwrigley> snufft: You could make a custom filter in synaptic (Settings->Filters...) to include only installed pkgs that are in the net or */net sections
[13:46] <led> ok so 04 not 10 then
[13:46] <Myrtti> diki: chances are it already is on
[13:46] <Myrtti> led: yes
[13:46] <mrdeb> why
[13:46] <Abhijit> unable to remove package nokubuntu. synaptic crashing on startup. dependency error. how to remove it? help
[13:46] <jwrigley> snufft: then go to the filter under Custom Filters, select all and right-click-> reinstall
[13:46] <mrdeb> he is gonna have to reinsall in 2 weeks then
[13:46] <snufft> jwrigley: do you mean for future apt-get updates?
[13:46] <mrdeb> what for
[13:47] <Myrtti> mrdeb: er, no :-(
[13:47] <snufft> jwrigley: ahhh, i think i kno what you mean now
[13:47] <diki> Myrtti:nope
[13:47] <mrdeb> does 1110 use the the 3d novuea
[13:47] <th0r> led: what version are you running now?
[13:47] <Myrtti> diki: lamp isn't one app or thing, it's multiple things, mysql, apache2, php
[13:47] <snufft> jwrigley: is there a way to find out exactly what packages i downloaded yesterday though? I can't remember their names.
[13:47] <diki> Myrtti:yes
[13:47] <Myrtti> diki: if mysql and apache2 are running, then it's on
[13:47] <led>  yeah beta is well a chance i dont think I am willing to take.
[13:48] <diki> where do i find it in / ?
[13:48] <led> thor blackbuntu 10.10
[13:48] <mrdeb> 10.10 is good
[13:48] <th0r> led: is it working well?
[13:48] <mrdeb> why dont you wait until 1110 final
[13:48] <led> so far so good
[13:48] <jwrigley> snufft: brb
[13:48] <th0r> led: then why mess with success?
[13:48] <king-egg> hello
[13:49] <Jasonn> mrdeb: I dont like 11.** - its like the vista of ubuntu versions
[13:49] <Abhijit> unable to remove package nokuntu. synaptic crashing on startup. dependency error. how to remove it?
[13:49] <king-egg> 你好阿
[13:49] <Guest44123> Hello. Can anyone help me with a very strange situation with Ubuntu 10.4 LTS. I cannot access HTTP, SSH, etc from my laptop. Ping bothways is OK and Ubuntu can access the Internet. I need to get this fixed as I have work to do. Pls???
[13:49] <Jasonn> Abhijit: remove it with terminal
[13:49] <led> thor i see your point
[13:50] <th0r> Guest44123: you probably have ports blocked at the wifi router
[13:50] <Abhijit> Jasonn, no success
[13:50] <Kartagis> what's good practice? setting PATH in ~/.bashrc, or /etc/profile?
[13:50] <Jasonn> Abhijit: :3 do you NEED to uninstall it?
[13:50] <Guest44123> Thank you th0r: I will check that and get back shortly.
[13:50] <Abhijit> Jasonn, yes
[13:51] <bastidrazor> Kartagis: for your user, use ~/.bashrc
[13:52] <Kartagis> bastidrazor: globally?
[13:52] <Kartagis> bastidrazor: how about globally?
[13:53] <Rovanion> Is it possible to install Ubuntu from another already installed distribution?
[13:53] <mrdeb> where do you download teh 10.10 iso with all updates up toto day?
[13:53] <yeats> Rovanion: theoreticially yes, but it would probably not be straightforward
[13:54] <Rovanion> mrdeb: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[13:54] <Myrtti> mrdeb: I don't think there is such thing
[13:54] <benoliver999> Rovanion: YOu're best off using the live CD, to be honest.
[13:54] <mrdeb> no rova, 1010
[13:54] <yeats> Rovanion: it would probably more of a project for the curious rather than a solution to installation
[13:54] <tjoy> Rovanion: why would you do something like that?
[13:54] <mrdeb> i need someone to make it
[13:54] <mrdeb> who can
[13:54] <Rovanion> yeats: I have no CD/DVD-device, and the usb-sticks aren't working as they should
[13:55] <tjoy> find a way to attach a cd device imo
[13:55] <yeats> Rovanion: you may have already said, but what's not working?
[13:55] <benoliver999> Rovanion: It's not really safe to do if you can't then use a CD to fix the mess if it all goes wrong.
[13:55] <Rovanion> yeats: Booting Ubuntu from a usb-stick.
[13:56] <yeats> Rovanion: okay - what's not working about that
[13:56] <bastidrazor> Kartagis: /etc/bash.bashrc
[13:56] <yeats> ?
[13:56] <benoliver999> Rovanion: You been in the BIOS settings and changed the boot order?
[13:56] <Rovanion> yeats: It stops booting at the 5 second mark, around the time at which it recognises harddrives and other USB-periphrials
[13:56] <diki> so how do i find the folders of mysql/php and apache where lamp installed them?
[13:56] <somicuthbert> anybody who knows to unlock huawei modem
[13:56] <diki> because find doesnt find anything
[13:57] <Rovanion> benoliver999: I get the kernel booting all right, but that's where the party stops
[13:57] <yeats> Rovanion: by "stops booting" do you mean it drops to BusyBox or it hangs?
[13:57] <Rovanion> yeats: Stops, dead. Not even a kernel panic
[13:57] <somicuthbert> anyone who knows to unlock huawei modem
[13:58] <diki> Also why is it that sometimes ubuntu just doesnt register my double click
[13:58] <diki> i am doubleclicking a folder, it doesnt open
[13:58] <yeats> Rovanion: which ISO are you using?  (assuming regular desktop)
[13:58] <Rovanion> yeats: I've tried with Ubuntu 11.04 and the daily alpha. I'm running Fedora right now which worked all right, except for nouveau but that's a minor issue
[13:58] <somicuthbert> anybody help  me to unlock my huawei modem with this model E153
[13:58] <yeats> Rovanion: did you md5sum the ISO before burning to USB?
[13:59] <Rovanion> yeats: No
[13:59] <yeats> Rovanion: okay - that would be my next step
[13:59] <somicuthbert>  anybody help  me to unlock my huawei modem with this model E153
[13:59] <yeats> Rovanion: I would also consider the alternate installer
[13:59] <yeats> !alternate | Rovanion
[13:59] <somicuthbert> i need a help please
[14:00] <somicuthbert> help please   anybody help  me to unlock my huawei modem with this model E153
[14:00] <somicuthbert>  anybody help  me to unlock my huawei modem with this model E153
[14:00] <Rovanion> yeats: Yes I've tried both the desktop and alternate installer, so in total 3 different Ubuntu ISO's.
[14:00] <Myrtti> somicuthbert: please have patience
[14:00] <yeats> Rovanion: ok
[14:00] <somicuthbert> thannks Myrtti
[14:01] <Myrtti> somicuthbert: you're not getting helped any sooner with annoying everyone in the channel by repeating your question every 15 seconds
[14:01] <Rovanion> yeats: And I just checked the md5, it was correct for atleast one of them
[14:01] <nameless`> jwrigley: yes, xserver-xorg-video-intel is installed
[14:01] <yeats> Rovanion: same USB drive each time? (just thinking of all the variables)
[14:02] <Rovanion> yeats: Yes, the same device. But I successfully booted and installed Fedora 15 from the same device.
[14:02] <yeats> Rovanion: do you have another to try?
[14:03] <Rovanion> yeats: Well I could ask to borrow one. But I found this wiki-page that hopefully will help me out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromAnotherDistro
[14:03] <Rovanion> Unless it's severely outdated
[14:04] <somicuthbert> Myritti what to do now cause i need a help from you guys
[14:05] <yeats> Rovanion: the process would probably not have changed much
[14:05] <somicuthbert> may they are busy
[14:05] <Abhijit> unable to remove package nokuntu. synaptic crashing on startup. dependency error. how to remove it?
[14:05] <Layke> How can I empty a file?
[14:05] <Layke> /var/log/something.log just want to delete everything from it.
[14:05] <Layke> I only know the delete file, recreate file, reset up owner route.
[14:05] <th0r> Layke: not wise to mess with things in /var
[14:05] <yeats> somicuthbert: how is unlocking a modem an ubuntu issue (just curious)?
[14:05] <Layke> th0r,  itś my mysql log file.
[14:06] <Layke> Getting too large and iḿ in development, just want to clear it out without messing up with my symlinks, file ownerships, etc
[14:06] <somicuthbert> yeats lets have a private chat
[14:06] <yeats> somicuthbert: no thanks - I only work in the channel
[14:07] <somicuthbert> okay
[14:07] <figaccio> hey guys, how do i rebuild my partition table... i changed the PCB of my external hard drive... now the partition table is missing... it's a 1TB harddisk, but i'm wondering why fdisk detects it as a 2199MB disk
[14:07] <figaccio> any idea?
[14:07] <somicuthbert> so in ubuntu  cant unlock  a modem
[14:08] <tjoy> figaccio: that sounds like a mess, why did you change the pcb?
[14:09] <Rovanion> yeats: Well bollox, there is no package alien for Fedora above 1.
[14:09] <IdleOne> somicuthbert: what do you mean by unlock?
[14:09] <nameless`> i've got a graphical chipset intel gma 4500 HD wich works with vesa driver though the resolution really sucks and i can't change it (when using xrandr i get a configuration crtc0 failed). If i use the intel driver, the screen remains black and the xorg log tells me "no screens found"
[14:09] <figaccio> i grilled the old one, (plugged falsefully my notebook power supply to it)
[14:09] <yeats> Rovanion: yeah - I thought that method would be fraught with (even more) headaches ;-)
[14:09] <diki> So guys
[14:09] <diki> even though a file exists
[14:09] <diki> why does find not find it?
[14:10] <diki> i do sudo find / -name 'name of dir or file/
[14:10] <tjoy> do you have permissions to see it?
[14:10] <zHammeRz> no permission to view
[14:10] <diki> and it yields no results
[14:10] <nameless`> here is my pastebin with intel driver http://pastebin.com/aZY5xq6M
[14:10] <somicuthbert> i mean vendor of my modem want me to use only her SIM CARD but when you unlock you can use your modem with any SIMCARD
[14:11] <yeats> figaccio: you can use fdisk to reformat your drive and set up a new partition table
[14:11] <tjoy> figaccio: yikes.  that's not an ubuntu problem, though.  go ask in #hardware, maybe.
[14:11] <IdleOne> somicuthbert: that is not an ubuntu issue. We can't help you with that.
[14:11] <Rovanion> yeats: All I want to do is to get wine going. But it errors out on most exes here, and the debug symbols, even though properly installed it seems, are missing. So I've filed a bug for that. And it usually takes some time to get processed. And that's just what has to happen before I can file a proper bug against wine for the issue I'm having.
[14:12] <yeats> Rovanion: on Fedora? or Ubuntu?
[14:12] <hipo_> using brasero i am burning the windows 7 iso to a dvd and it say 100 percent done and is stuck at  creating image checksome and it started at 7 mins and its now at 10 minutes is this noramla
[14:12] <Rovanion> yeats: Fedora, since Ubuntu wouldn't boot
[14:12] <javier__> Hi. I'm without menus in up panel in ubunut 11.04 (unity). Is it appmenu, global-menu issue? Someone can help me fixing it?
[14:12] <yeats> Rovanion: ah - then I would as in #fedora or #winehq
[14:12] <IdleOne> hipo_: yes. could take a little while for it to finalize
[14:12] <yeats> s/as/ask/
[14:12] <somicuthbert> Idleone  why that cause computer cant fail to such a small thing  like that
[14:13] <figaccio> yeats: if i format it, i'll loose all my date ... i would like to avoid this
[14:13] <IdleOne> somicuthbert: I did not understand you
[14:13] <Rovanion> yeats: Well I figured that I would have my game running sooner if I just tried to install Ubuntu from my running environment.
[14:13] <Rovanion> I will go and see if I can borrow a CD-drive instead
[14:13] <yeats> figaccio: if your HDD is already only recognizing the smaller partition, your data may already be unrecoverable
[14:15] <figaccio> yeats: no, it recognizes a bigger partition ... :) physical space 1TB fdisk detects 2199MB
[14:15] <somicuthbert> IdleOne  i saw someone unlock his modem  thats is why am asking for thata
[14:15] <somicuthbert> that matter
[14:15] <yeats> figaccio: ok - then tjoy is right - this goes beyond the scope of #ubuntu support :-/
[14:16] <IdleOne> somicuthbert: #ubuntu provides support for the Ubuntu OS not for unlocking modems. Please seek support from the modem vendor.
[14:16] <somicuthbert> okay idleone
[14:16] <figaccio> yeats: do ubuntu offers some tools for deep scanning the drive and try to rebuild the table?
[14:16] <yeats> figaccio: I don't know - perhaps someone else in channel does though
[14:17] <Total_Oblivion> Can ubuntu install on NTFS?
[14:17] <IdleOne> no
[14:18] <IdleOne> Total_Oblivion: well yes sorta, using a Wubi install
[14:18]  * Sidewinder1 Avoids WUBI, like the Plague. :D
[14:19] <Sidewinder1> Sorry, couldn't resist.
[14:19] <james0912> hi all quick Q). Why does my new ext2 hdd show up in windows ? i ant got the driver installed? could it be detecting an mbr ? i want to remove it from windows so as not to format it by mistake
[14:20] <james0912> ext2driver for windows that is!
[14:20] <Olotila> is there a Show Desktop command in Ubuntu 11?
[14:20] <jwrigley> snufft: check out the dpkg.log's in  /var/log
[14:20] <bastidrazor> james0912: how is #ubuntu suppose to help you with that?
[14:20] <th0r> Olotila: that isn't a command, it is usually a panel plugin
[14:21] <IdleOne> james0912: try ##windows
[14:21] <bastidrazor> Olotila: it used to be ctrl D in previous versions.
[14:21] <Sidewinder1> Total_Oblivion, This will answer all/most of your questions, I hope it helps: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
[14:21] <bastidrazor> Olotila: or ctrl alt d
[14:21] <Olotila> th0r, can i bind a keyboard shortcut to it?
[14:21] <Olotila> that does not work
[14:21] <Olotila> ctrl alt d
[14:22] <james0912> well im wondering if windows detects the mrb and displays it, just wondered if there were techie type about that had come across the problem before ?
[14:22] <snufft> jwrigley: thanks, will do :)
[14:22] <jwrigley> nameless`: try adding a monitor and a screen section
[14:22] <jwrigley> snufft: you're welcome :)
[14:22] <bastidrazor> james0912: still, you're in the wrong channel.
[14:22] <IdleOne> james0912: wondering anything about what windows does is better asked in ##windows
[14:23] <james0912> im trying to fix it under ubuntu if that helps
[14:23] <IdleOne> not really.
[14:23] <IdleOne> it's a windows issue
[14:23] <nameless`> jwrigley: ok
[14:24] <james0912> and i bet there is a ubuntu solution, dd mbr or something,
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> james0912: you want to repair MBR? some other guy had the same issue yesterday, no solution was found
[14:25] <snufft> jwrigley: i've just posted a thread about this on the ubuntuforums if you're keen: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11262451#post11262451 I'll check out that log tomorrow (got to be awake in 6 hrs :( ) and update the details there :)
[14:26] <Kartagis> unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 <--- what does this mean?
[14:26] <Kartagis> btw, bastidrazor++
[14:26] <bastidrazor> Kartagis: you're welcome.
[14:27] <mentlementlegen> Hi everyone! I'm using ubuntu 10.04 and managed to install 11.04 into a HDD that now I'm trying to connect via usb, is there a way to let grub boot that HDD? (add a grub entry to recognize the usb hdd) my bios does not support usb boot options so i think the only way is via grub
[14:28] <Kartagis> mentlementlegen: grub-install should add that option
[14:28] <blostoks1> guys new to ubuntu, i installed ubuntu 11.10, how do i disable compiz
[14:28] <snufft> god night all :)
[14:28] <bastidrazor> blostoks1: 11.10 support is in #ubuntu+1
[14:28] <blostoks1> thanks bastidrazor
[14:28] <javier__> ubuntu 11.04 with unity. Can't get back appmenu (or global menu): that is: everything integrated in up panel. Some help please?
[14:28] <Sidewinder1> !oneiric | blostoks1
[14:28] <bastidrazor> blostoks1: good luck.
[14:28] <mentlementlegen> Kartagis: just that? no custom lines to add? do you know what i would need if i wanted to add windows on that hdd? (iirc you need something for windows)
[14:29] <blostoks1> thanks bastidrazor
[14:30] <Kartagis> mentlementlegen: grub-install /dev/sda, replace sda with your hdd
[14:30] <diki> How do i get a list of services that are already running?
[14:30] <mentlementlegen> Kartagis: thats it? nothing else needed? wow thank you very much for the help!
[14:30] <bipul> I installed a ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop, but by mistake i removed network manager from it, now am not able to install it cause there is no network on my laptop, so can anyone help me out how can i reinstall it..
[14:30] <snoeman> Is it possible to pipe bash output to a media player
[14:31] <Kartagis> bipul: get the .deb and install it
[14:31] <Kartagis> bipul: it should be in your /var/cache/apt/archives/
[14:32] <bipul> Kartagis,  can you tell me the steps
[14:32] <Kartagis> I just love how kvirc completes the directory names on the system :)
[14:32] <Total_Oblivion> I just made a partition and now I'm to choose between FAT32 and NTFS, that's why I'm asking
[14:33] <Kartagis> bipul: sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/<thedevfornetworkmanager>
[14:33] <Kartagis> if it's there
[14:33] <Kartagis> bipul: ^^
[14:33] <Kartagis> deb*
[14:34] <bipul> let me see
[14:34] <Total_Oblivion> Actually, to sum it up, what format should i give to my partition in order to install ubuntu FAT32 or NTFS
[14:34] <qin> Total_Oblivion: Choose between ext3 and ext4 (and do not forgot swap)
[14:34] <bastidrazor> Total_Oblivion: ext3 or ext4
[14:35] <qin> bastidrazor: Handshake
[14:36] <Yeti_69> !fr
[14:36] <Total_Oblivion> qin, bastidrazor: I'm on windows 7
[14:37] <qin> Total_Oblivion: Ubuntu installer have own partitioner, you can leave it raw, but FAT is better
[14:38] <bastidrazor> Total_Oblivion: installing from inside windows means you're going to use WUBI. still ext3/4 is fs type you'll use in the installer
[14:39] <qin> Total_Oblivion: Wubi?
[14:43] <zykotick9> Total_Oblivion, (my opinion only!) wubi is a terrible idea, that has been implemented adequately.
[14:44] <Guest75516> hi people....i want to be able to read some regional languages and im unable to do that on Puppy linux....i got no support on that channel ...plz help me
[14:44] <Guest75516> do i need to download and install any extra packages?
[14:44]  * jrib agrees with zykotick9
[14:44] <ikonia> Guest75516: sorry, use #puppylinux for support
[14:44] <Guest75516> its Telugu
[14:44] <jrib> Guest75516: this channel is for ubuntu support
[14:45] <ikonia> Guest75516: you waited less than 3 minutes for a response in #puppylinux, that is the correct place to get support
[14:45] <bastidrazor> ikonia: how do you magically know these things?
[14:46] <qin> spider sense
[14:46] <jrib> ikonia is omniscient in irc-land
[14:46] <Guest75516> i think its a common process....definitely there would be a package to download
[14:47] <rapage> !firefox
[14:47] <Guest75516> just i need a clue about that
[14:47] <ikonia> Guest75516: STOP askin now - you are being helped in #puppylinux now, so stop
[14:49] <javier__> how to restart classic ubuntu gnome panels?
[14:49] <xangua> javier__: pkill gnome-panel
[14:49] <zykotick9> javier__, "killall gnome-panel" then "gnome-panel"
[14:49] <xangua> should then start again
[14:50] <javier__> thanks
[14:51] <zykotick9> xangua, you're right, gnome-panel does auto re-spawn
[14:52] <taavi_> hello, how can i get wireless working on hp 625? ive tried using additional drivers and installed the broadcom driver
[14:52] <taavi_> doesent work for me
[14:54] <zykotick9> taavi_, in IRC try "/MSG ubottu doesntwork" for IMO one of the funniest factoids on freenode.
[14:54] <taavi_> im not really in a mood for irc geek jokes
[14:55] <taavi_> Just interested on getting the wifi to work
[14:55] <somicuthbert> yyyyyy
[14:55] <zykotick9> taavi_, there is a message in that joke.  nevermind...
[14:56] <don-i> hey i got some problems with an 11.10 upgrade
[14:56] <zykotick9> don-i, #ubuntu+1
[14:57] <don-i> zykotick9: thanks
[15:01] <jwrigley> wow, no one said anything for a whole 3 minutes
[15:01] <jrib> jwrigley: great we were about to break the record and you ruined it
[15:03] <Tinybird> I break the record again
[15:03] <bastidrazor> i'm unsure of how your math works but i saw 5 minutes of silence.
[15:03] <Tinybird> Maybe it's network latency
[15:03] <xangua> !ot
[15:04] <rapage> I'm on the sypnaptic package manager on ubuntu
[15:04] <rapage> I'm tryinhg to upgrade firefox 3.6.22 to the latest but I can't see option upgrade from the contextg menu
[15:04] <rapage> what should I do
[15:05] <xangua> !fx6 | rapage
[15:06] <rapage> so there is no support for firefox 4 for ubu 10
[15:06] <macer1> why 4 not 6, rapage ?
[15:06] <rapage> I have 3.6
[15:07] <macer1> firefox 4 is unsupported by upstream
[15:07] <macer1> !fx6 | rapage
[15:07] <diki> is it me or ubuntu sucks..?
[15:07] <diki> i mean i install lamp, mysql workjed
[15:07] <diki> rebooted and it doesnt
[15:07] <xangua> diki: you
[15:08] <rapage> if I want to upgrade my ubuntu what should I do
[15:08] <rapage> can I install it over the one I have or I have to save home directory and install the new one in
[15:08] <xangua> !upgrade | rapage
[15:09] <amin`> Is it true that GDM starts Consolekit and Dbus by default and automatically??
[15:09] <jwrigley> rapage: if you have seperate /home and / partitions, you can install ubuntu from cd/usb clean, without a socalled upgrade
[15:09] <bintotem> How do i change my user name in ubuntu
[15:10] <jrib> bintotem: easier to just create a new user
[15:10] <bintotem> Hmm create a new user, itll have everything from this one correct?
[15:11] <xangua> if you copy your setting, yes
[15:11] <jrib> bintotem: no, but you can copy everything you want
[15:11] <macer1> amin`, yes, gdm starts full gnome session.
[15:11] <macer1> so I think yes
[15:11] <bintotem> ok, let me go mess with it
[15:11] <glebihan> amin`, for consolekit I'm not sure, but for dbus that's not exactly true
[15:12] <jwrigley> bintotem: just make sure you copy all the invisible folders in your homedir
[15:12] <glebihan> amin`, upstart starts dbus, and gdm doesn't start before dbus is ready
[15:12] <glebihan> amin`, but gdm doesn't start dbus itself
[15:12] <bintotem> what do you mean copy, like literally copy and paste them into the new one?
[15:12] <jrib> bintotem: yeah
[15:13] <bintotem> there isnt a simple way of just changing my name? or at least just for my terminal
[15:13] <zykotick9> bintotem, FYI if you want your new user to be able to use sudo they need to be added to the admin group
[15:13] <bintotem> because im using irssi now but osme irc nets wont let me connect because my user on ubuntu is one letter
[15:13] <zykotick9> bintotem, don't try to rename a user account!  create a new one!
[15:14] <zykotick9> bintotem, do irssi accounts have to match user account names?  i'd be surprised if that wasn't an option.
[15:14] <bintotem> well im not sure, im new to irssi >.<
[15:14] <zykotick9> bintotem, i don't use it some am not sure
[15:14] <jwrigley> irssi -n nick
[15:14] <bintotem> Really, awesome jwrigly
[15:15] <firas> hi guys
[15:15] <bintotem> Yes jwrigly that worked great, thanks!
[15:15] <jwrigley> bintotem: pleasure :)
[15:16] <bintotem> Saved me alot of time and trouble i think
[15:16] <firas> I just want to ask where to get the ubuntu source code or packages?
[15:16] <zykotick9> jwrigley, [xyproblem] People often falsely diagnose problems because they are looking too closely at a problem: they have got stuck at a particular point (Y) doing something (X) and so ask about step Y, not realising that there is an easier or better way to do X in the first place.  See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem or http://homepages.tesco.net/J.deBoynePollard/FGA/put-down-the-chocolate-covered-banana.html
[15:17] <dashavoo> I might be mad, but I thought ubuntu could magically install itself alongside other operating systems, but right now I am only seeing options for replace windws 7, or do all the partitioning manually
[15:17] <dashavoo> Did I imagine the other thing, or is something wrong with this laptop?
[15:17] <xannen> Is Unity in general meaning refer to Unity3D?
[15:17] <diki> well again
[15:17] <diki> my mysql screwed up....great
[15:17] <firas>  I just want to ask where to get the ubuntu source code or packages?
[15:18] <xangua> !source |  firas
[15:18] <jrib> !source | firas
[15:18]  * jrib wipes dust off xangua
[15:18] <zykotick9> firas, ubuntu is made up of thousands of individual pieces, called packages - each has it's source code available (unless it's non-free)
[15:19] <xannen> Is Unity in general meaning refer to Unity3D?
[15:19] <SoulShadow> and then if you're a REAL linux user, you use free only!
[15:19] <SoulShadow> ./troll
[15:19] <zykotick9> xannen, usually, unless you're talking about unity2d ;)
[15:19] <firas> thanks guys you really helped (  I'm new to linux and linux development)
[15:19] <xangua> xannen: it needs hardware acceleration and compiz if that is what you mean
[15:19] <xannen> ty zykotick9  :D
[15:20] <rapage> I have my ubuntu installation in 3 dif partitions /swap /home and /
[15:20] <rapage> can I do a clean upgrade of ubuntu from that
[15:20] <rapage> my /home partition is ext3 and my / is ext4
[15:20] <organiks> morning all
[15:20] <xannen> Morning organiks
[15:21] <zykotick9> rapage, as clean as possible (there is still the possibility of home folder settings causing issues)
[15:21] <speedway> i got this message in my console: 2.4+ kernel w/o ELF notes? -- report this
[15:21] <speedway> what does that mean?
[15:21] <organiks> im trying to use hdparm but i keep getting /dev/hda: No such file or directory
[15:22] <zykotick9> rapage, upgrade or fresh install?  I'd lean towards fresh install, reformatting / and /swap and leaving /home intact
[15:22] <m6locks> ohai, is there a way to hard-reset keyboard using command line? my eeePC got some cola dried up in it and it gets this periods where ISO_Level3_Shift is turned on, and all I can type is greek/whatever characters
[15:23] <jwrigley> zykotick9: are you saying I my answer was wrong, or what do you mean by those links?
[15:24] <zykotick9> m6locks, good luck with that - sounds like a hardware issue to me.
[15:24] <Tinybird1> Hi, all
[15:24] <m6locks> zykotick9: yes, but I was wondering if there were any low-level commands for reset
[15:24] <m6locks> alt+sysrq+r doesn't work
[15:24] <m6locks> xmodmapping ISO_Level3_Shift does not work
[15:25] <Nickel> hello all.
[15:25] <zykotick9> jwrigley, no you where bang on.  to a different question at that point.  problem originally presented was X - how do you rename an ubuntu account, and you answered Y - how to rename an irc account ;)  Thus it was an example of the x-y problem ;)
[15:25] <rapage> zykotick9, :-(
[15:25] <Nickel> anyone care to help a linux noob out?
[15:25] <dashavoo> Nickel: I think the general IRC rule is "just ask"
[15:26] <zykotick9> rapage, you can upgrade if you want!
[15:26] <Nickel> dashavoo, i see, i see. i was wondering how to create a launcher for chromium that would make it open incognito by default
[15:26] <clawtros> i'm running oneiric and i keep getting this "system program problem detected" dialogue up, report problem doesn't seem to do anything and there doesn't seem to be a /var/log/crash created, is there a log that i can look at to see what's going on?
[15:26] <jrib> !oneiric | clawtros
[15:28] <dashavoo> clawtros: I do on all the computers I run it on, I think it is a general issue
[15:28] <xannen> I'm currently using Unity version 3.8.16 on Ubuntu 11.04, is Ubuntu 11.10 ship with better version of Unity?
[15:28] <macer1> xannen, yes
[15:28] <dashavoo> xannen: marginally ;)
[15:28] <Nickel> can someone assist me in creating a chromium launcher that will open incognito by default?
[15:29] <xannen> macer1, dashavoo, What version number of Unity will that be?
[15:29] <dashavoo> Nickel: I don't use Chromium, but I am having a look for you. Once you have asked, be patient.
[15:29] <clawtros> dashavoo, ah, good to know it's common, at least.  not some hard drive devouring process run amok
[15:29] <macer1> xannen, :~$ unity --version
[15:29] <macer1> unity 4.14.2
[15:30] <Nickel> dashavoo, gotcha, thank you. :D
[15:30] <jwrigley> zykotick9: cool ;) phenomenon has a name, and a good point too isolating and identifying it.
[15:30] <xannen> okay...
[15:30] <hagus> Unless I run gedit as sudo gedit, I cannot get access to areas that I want to reach regularly.  I do not want to have to use sudo to edit with gedit.  How do I achieve that?
[15:31] <xannen> I was having issues with Unity and have switched to Unity2D.  I was watching DVB-T on VLC in Unity, and after a while, the graphics got laggy.
[15:31] <dashavoo> Nickel: what desktop environment do you run?
[15:31] <dashavoo> Unity?
[15:31] <Nickel> ubuntu
[15:31] <hagus> Basically, I do not want to have to open terminal every time that I want to run gedit.
[15:31] <dashavoo> Nickel: which release?
[15:31] <IamTrying> How can i install the DeckLink? I have tried but it does not show up.
[15:31] <Nickel> 11.04
[15:31] <IamTrying> 11.04
[15:31] <dashavoo> ok, thanks
[15:32] <econdudeawesome> howdy all. I'm having a really weird error when I try to update using dpkg, and it's been going on for months. Here is a printout, including the warning: http://pastebin.com/BsjjSLuX
[15:32] <rapage> I think I can't upgrade directly to ubuntu 11
[15:32] <rapage> how do I know what version of ubuntu I have
[15:32] <jwrigley> hagus, open the app, Main Menu, add a new link, with the command gksudo /usr/bin/gedit
[15:32] <hagus> At the moment, in order to edit various file under /var/www, I need to use sudo gedit.  Is there a way of doing this without using terminal?
[15:32] <econdudeawesome> rapage: do you have the unity environment?
[15:33] <InFeDeL> im trying to use hdparm but i keep getting /dev/hda: No such file or directory, am i missing something?
[15:33] <hagus> thanks jwrigley :)
[15:33] <econdudeawesome> hagus: alt+f2, sudo gedit <filepath>
[15:33] <zHammeRz> InFeDeL, pastebin your df, or try and use the partition #
[15:33] <MonkeyDust> rapage: lsb_release -a
[15:33] <rapage> it says I'm using 10.04 lts
[15:33] <InFeDeL> how do i see partition number?
[15:33] <zHammeRz> type df
[15:34] <MonkeyDust> InFeDeL: df -h
[15:34] <econdudeawesome> Anyone else come across this error with dpkg updates? http://pastebin.com/BsjjSLuX
[15:34] <hagus> thanks econdudeawesome - I think that I shall try jwrigley's advice first though.
[15:34] <ethan86> vgcreate -s 8M storage /dev/sda1       is this correct way to create a volume group that'll prove extent size 8M for all the logical volume inside that group?
[15:34] <rapage> Why I am using an lts version
[15:34] <macer1> Nickel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/692352/
[15:35] <dashavoo> Nickel: sorry,  I can't for the life of me work out how to add a launcher in Unity, but you want a launcher that does "chromium --incognito", so see if anyone else can help
[15:35] <rapage> what's the dif between lts and not
[15:35] <dashavoo> macer1: you pre-empted that ;)
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> rapage: longer support
[15:35] <zHammeRz> right click on the icon in the launcher and select "keep in launcher"
[15:35] <econdudeawesome> rapage: wikipedia actually has a really good writeup for that. LTS: long term service, helpful especially for server admins
[15:36] <InFeDeL> zHammeRz: http://pastebin.com/mLFyPkc7
[15:36] <econdudeawesome> rapage: for completeness: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(operating_system)#Releases
[15:36] <zHammeRz> InFeDeL, you need to use hddparm /dev/sda
[15:36] <Nickel> dashavoo, thanks for your time
[15:36] <InFeDeL> and any reason why i have 3 swap spaces
[15:36] <macer1> Nickel, save this as .desktop file
[15:36] <Nickel> macer1, i have no clue what i'm looking at... lol.
[15:37] <econdudeawesome> dashavoo: open the program, right click, select "Keep in Launcher"
[15:37] <econdudeawesome> dashavoo: open the program, rightclick on the icon in the unity bar, then select "Keep in Launcher"
[15:37] <dashavoo> econdudeawesome: the problem is that it needs a command line switch, but macer1 is on it ;)
[15:37] <econdudeawesome> ah
[15:37] <nati_> hola
[15:37] <nati_> :D
[15:37] <econdudeawesome> hola nati_
[15:38] <Nickel> macer1, might have found a way
[15:39] <InFeDeL> i also partitioned my seagate momentus xt to 105gig NTFS, 387gig EXT4, 2 - 2.1gigswap , 4.1gig swap so why do i have so many swap spaces?
[15:39] <InFeDeL> the 2-2.1gig swap came outta nowhere
[15:39] <econdudeawesome> Anyone else been having problems with dpkg? This is a pastebin of my issues: http://pastebin.com/BsjjSLuX
[15:39] <zHammeRz> InFeDeL, no idea, it's whatever you set it up as...it didn't auto create that many
[15:40] <InFeDeL> it has a 4gig ssd hybrid is that it?
[15:40] <jwrigley> econdudeawesome: that is the output of which command?
[15:41] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: that is the output of both apt-get update and also running the standard software update with Ubuntu (the errors are the same, this pastebin is from the latter)
[15:41] <InFeDeL> zHammeRz: http://pastebin.com/A77R0nth
[15:42] <Nickel> macer1, what directory do programs install to by default
[15:42] <jwrigley> econdudeawesome: try sudo apt-get -f install
[15:42] <macer1> .desktop files are in /usr/share/applictaions, Nicke
[15:42] <macer1> *Nikel
[15:42] <Nickel> macer1, thank you
[15:43] <ethan86> hello
[15:43] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: what does this do, so I understand the next time?
[15:43] <zHammeRz> InFeDeL, what are you trying to do anyways?
[15:44] <jwrigley> econdudeawesome: apt-get --help , look at the -f option
[15:44] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: http://paste.ubuntu.com/692357/ is the outcome (failed again)
[15:45] <InFeDeL> speed up the drive up
[15:46] <IamTrying> Does Ubuntu 11.04 has thunderbird support? e.g: http://www.blackmagic-design.com/media/2165340/intensityextreme.jpg
[15:46] <dashavoo> Does the ubuntu installer get confused by a large number of existing partitions?
[15:46] <dusf> what package can i open Vuze_Installer.tar.bz2 with?
[15:46] <dashavoo> dusf: file-roller
[15:46] <theadmin> dusf: That's an archive, extract it somewhere
[15:47] <theadmin> dashavoo: You can't have more than 4 primary partitions, but other than that that's pretty much the only limitation
[15:47] <jwrigley> econdudeawesome: have you got aptitude installed?
[15:47] <zHammeRz> InFeDeL, do a hdparm -t /dev/sda
[15:47] <xangua> dusf: sudo apt-get install vuze
[15:47] <dusf> dashavoo: file-roller, will that do more than extract it?
[15:48] <InFeDeL> dev/sda:
[15:48] <InFeDeL>  Timing buffered disk reads: 322 MB in  3.01 seconds = 106.84 MB/sec
[15:48] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: yes
[15:48] <oCean> !info vuze | dusf package vuze is in the repositories
[15:48] <dashavoo> theadmin: I understand that particular limitation, but my reason for asking is that the installer doesn't give me the option to install alongside windows (which I /think/ it used to), and I wondered whether it is because the pre-installed windows has lots of restore/backup/etc. partitions
[15:48] <dusf> theadmin: yeah i know, i just thought since it has installer in the name maybe i do something different
[15:48] <zHammeRz> that's already pretty fast
[15:48] <xangua> IamTrying: thunderbird is in ubuntu repositories, yes
[15:48] <dusf> xangua: the repo version is very outdated and it's what i'm currently using
[15:48] <hagus> OK, thanks to jwrigley, I can now call sudo gedit without terminal but I want to go further and enter my password automatically - or is that to be frowned upon?
[15:48] <theadmin> dashavoo: Ah, well, I doubt that
[15:48] <dusf> oCean: see my response to xangua
[15:48] <theadmin> !find vuze
[15:48] <dashavoo> dusf: the installer is contained within the archive, I assume
[15:49] <theadmin> !info vuze | dashavoo: It's better to install this package from the repositories
[15:49] <rabbi1> AcetoneISO says "NOTE: It is NOT possible to mount multi-sector images"
[15:49] <IamTrying> xangua, also the USB 3.0 should work if i try?
[15:49] <InFeDeL> i want to turn up aam and power options
[15:49] <zykotick9> econdudeawesome, from your pastebin it appears the issues surround linux-image-2.6.38-11-generic is that the default ubuntu kernel?
[15:49] <dusf> theadmin: it is better, but it's very outdated
[15:49] <zHammeRz> InFeDeL, http://paste.ubuntu.com/692360/ <--- this is mine
[15:49] <oCean> dusf: your choice, but remember the packages in the archives are the supported ones
[15:49] <theadmin> dusf: Oh, I see.
[15:49] <hagus> have also enjoyed using econdudeawesome's alt f2 tip.
[15:49] <dusf> oCean: as i have raised with the private tracker making me upgrade
[15:49] <econdudeawesome> zykotick9: i have not installed any other kernels (nor do I know how)
[15:49] <rabbi1> AcetoneISO says "NOTE: It is NOT possible to mount multi-sector images" what should i do with .iso file then ?
[15:50] <zHammeRz> InFeDeL, I don't know anything about those options you mentioned.
[15:50] <InFeDeL> what drive do u have
[15:50] <InFeDeL> and are u partitioned
[15:50] <theadmin> dusf: Not a fan of outdated software myself *points at their 3.0.1 kernel*
[15:50] <theadmin> dusf: Actually, 3.0.4
[15:51] <jwrigley> econdudeawesome: try running sudo aptitude, use colon, ":", to deselect updates with a bit of luck you can cancel the update, and start over
[15:51] <zHammeRz> InFeDeL, it's a ocz agility 2 60gb ssd...and I let ubuntu 11 auto-install...looks like it made a 54gb / partition and a 4gb /swap partition
[15:51] <dusf> theadmin: though i guess there are too many packages in the repos for ubuntu to keep up to date with apart from incrementally?
[15:52] <theadmin> dusf: I'm not sure -- my distro manages to keep all it's packages up-to-date despite having a ton of em :P
[15:52] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: this has gone on for about 3 months now, but now is the first time I've had to address it... My biggest question is: are the updates occurring, or am I running old software?
[15:52] <dusf> theadmin: deb>]
[15:52] <dusf> ?
[15:52] <theadmin> dusf: .pkg.tar.xz xD I'm running Arch
[15:53] <dusf> #:)
[15:53] <zykotick9> econdudeawesome, have you tried running "sudo apt-get update" before running the "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[15:54] <dusf> ty all for the help
[15:54] <chris123> greets
[15:54] <econdudeawesome> zykotick9: yes, many times. :-). The issue appears to be, perhaps, a partially installed kernel
[15:54] <jwrigley> hagus: your kernel updates are failing, usually if any package is not properly installed, no other package can be installed
[15:55] <hagus> jwrigley: I guess that comment was meant for someone else?
[15:55] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: ok. If I choose an older kernel at startup, can I update kernels from there?
[15:55] <waza-ari> Hey all, since yesterday i recognize two programs (/usr/bin/virtuoso-t and nepomukservicestab) which use completly slow down my pc. There doing somesthing on harddisk all the time and sometimes have 100% cpu usage on all 4 cores... Any idea what that is and where it comes from?
[15:55] <econdudeawesome> hagus: for me aI believe ;-)
[15:55] <gordoleon> Good morning, i'm a newbie and im having trouble trying to play some games, games start in a black window (with audio) but no image at all, is there anyone who can help me?
[15:55] <zykotick9> econdudeawesome, you could also try (if you have aptitude installed) "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade" and see if you get a different upgrade option
[15:55] <chris123> guys, some how the file association program got screwed up. When I open the file manager and click on a file it always wants to open the file with VLC player. Where do I reset the file extensions in 11.10 alpha
[15:56] <IamTrying> Dear Ubuntu Experts, is this correct? Q. Can I use Intensity Shuttle on my Linux PC? A. "No, currently there is no isochronous USB 3.0 driver support for Linux. We hope this will change soon."
[15:56] <oCean> chris123: Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released (still beta). Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[15:56] <jwrigley> econdudeawesome: what's the contents of your /etc/kernel/postinst.d/nvidia-common
[15:56] <explodes> I want to mount /dev/sda4 as /media/Misc but it says: "fuse: failed to access mountpoint /media/Misc: No such file or directory"
[15:56] <theadmin> waza-ari: nepomuk is the KDE file search/index utility
[15:56] <chris123> tks/ch
[15:56] <theadmin> waza-ari: I'm not certain about virtuozo
[15:56] <jwrigley> hagus: sorry, right that was @ econdudeawesome
[15:57] <gordoleon> Good morning, i'm a newbie and im having trouble trying to play some games, games start in a black window (with audio) but no image at all, is there anyone who can help me?glxgears also gives me a black window
[15:57] <zykotick9> explodes, create a directory /media/Misc before trying to mount there
[15:57] <waza-ari> theadmin: any way to turn that off? the only kde application i currently use is kontact...
[15:57]  * hagus breathes easily
[15:57] <theadmin> waza-ari: Why yes, I don't remember how but it's done via the KDE control center thing, type "Nepomuk" in the search there and it'll find it
[15:58] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: http://paste.ubuntu.com/692367/
[15:58] <jwrigley> hagus: you shouldn't desire to run any root command without password. A better way of solving this would be to change ownership of /var/www
[15:58] <chris123> No one is home there. I had the same issue prior to upgrading on line. So perhaps I may ask the question here as it does apply to the stable release.
[15:58] <hagus> Thanks jwrigley.  Sounds good to me.
[15:58] <jwrigley> hagus: if you make you the owner, you don't need root access. And you don't risk changing stuff that is best left unchanged
[15:59] <jwrigley> hagus: ;)
[15:59] <oCean> chris123: there are many. Just have some patience
[15:59] <chris123> OK thanks
[15:59] <waza-ari> theadmin: do you know thats the name of that kde control center thing? i guess i dont even have it installe
[16:00] <theadmin> waza-ari: If you have the new KDE menu, it should look something like "System Settings" under Computer in the menu
[16:00] <jakeriver> is there any hope to have gnome on next ubuntu releases?
[16:00] <xangua> jakeriver: unity runs on top of gnome
[16:01] <jakeriver> okey
[16:01] <waza-ari> theadmin: i should have said im using gnome (unity) as display manager... As said, just using kontact as only kde app at all
[16:01] <nameless`> i'd like to have a xorg.conf file which i will modify after, however dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't provide me that file, how can i do that ?
[16:01] <theadmin> !classic|jakeriver, Gnome will always be installed, and you can switch to it like this
[16:01] <theadmin> waza-ari: Ah, okay, well then, no idea, sorry
[16:01] <theadmin> waza-ari: Try to killall those apps
[16:01] <AlecTaylor> hi
[16:01] <waza-ari> theadmin, they will be up at next boot then... and there a lot of them...
[16:02] <jakeriver> okey, thank you really helped :)
[16:02] <theadmin> waza-ari: Check /etc/init and your desktop's startup apps, then
[16:02] <AlecTaylor> I've just booted into an old Ubuntu disc in order to fix up my boot. Windows 8 stuffed up my boot manager... how do I reinitiate Ubuntu's GRUB, and populate its lst automatically?
[16:02] <jwrigley> econdudeawesome: no error in the file.. :(
[16:02] <jwrigley> econdudeawesome: were you able to run aptitude?
[16:02] <theadmin> !restoregrub | AlecTaylor
[16:03] <theadmin> !grub2 | AlecTaylor
[16:03] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: same issue (aptit. runs, but has same error)
[16:03] <AlecTaylor> Phew, lucky I found the 10.10 disc :]
[16:04] <AlecTaylor> boot-repair? - Woh, they finally released a GUI/automated tool for this!
[16:04] <AlecTaylor> YAY
[16:04] <MGParisi_Linux> how do I move the task bars from one monitor to another?
[16:04] <jwrigley> econdudeawesome: you can't deselect (":") the upgrade?
[16:04] <vbox> n
[16:04] <jwrigley> haha, that looks like a smiley (":")
[16:04] <shadam_> ???
[16:05] <nameless`> is it possible to get the latest xorg version ? (the 2.8 or 2.9)
[16:05] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: no, ive run upgrades many many times. AFAIK the system thinks the upgrades have taken hold
[16:05] <theadmin> AlecTaylor: "yay"? What's so good about that? It allows Ubuntu users to have no deep system knowledge even more :/
[16:05] <AlecTaylor> haha
[16:05] <AlecTaylor> true
[16:05] <IamTrying> xangua, i mean this (third and second one) http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/models/
[16:05] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: and it does look like a smiley--small moustache
[16:05] <shadam_> Wuuu.IRC
[16:05] <jwrigley> econdudeawesome: just the kernel-upgrade, not the rest
[16:06] <jwrigley> * econdudeawesome: just disable the kernel-upgrades
[16:06] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: im not sure how to do that? I run sudo aptitude, then shift+;?
[16:07] <dashavoo> I hate Unity... not from a technical or user point of view, although it does make it hard to do things that used to be easy, but from a "oh crumbs, how the hell will I ever explain this to my parents" point of view
[16:08] <theadmin> !classic | dashavoo
[16:08] <econdudeawesome> dashavoo: hence the reason you can select classic at login ;-)
[16:08] <jwrigley> econdudeawesome: press g once, that should take you to the list of packages changes. Then select each line and press shift+;
[16:08] <IamTrying> Does anyone ever used any HDMI/TV capture card in Ubuntu 11.04? Does it work in Ubuntu?
[16:08] <AlecTaylor> I can't run the Boot-Repair utility. (log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/692371/) What should I do?
[16:08] <dashavoo> theadmin, econdudeawesome: currently that is what I do on one of their computers, but sooner or later (i.e when the LTS runs out on 11.04) that will no longer be an option
[16:09] <lavanya> asdf
[16:09] <dashavoo> theadmin: no offence, but it is very annoying that you respond to everything with a command to the bot
[16:09] <IamTrying> How do you capture Playstation 3 games using HDMI in Ubuntu?
[16:09] <theadmin> dashavoo: True. Well, there's a fork of Gnome2 worked on, and it'll probably get to Ubuntu repos by the time that happens
[16:09] <theadmin> dashavoo: Also, I do that just cause it's faster than typing everything yourself
[16:10] <jwrigley> econdudeawesome: when you are done, press g, again. If nothing happens quit. then try aptitude -f install
[16:10] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: it does not let me deselect, since they are partially installed
[16:10] <dashavoo> theadmin: I've been checking out the fork now and then. I am worried that it is going to die fairly quickly though.
[16:10] <dashavoo> theadmin: that is true
[16:10] <dusf> what command do i put in a launcher to open /opt/vuze/azureus? /opt/vuze/azureus and /opt/vuze/.azureus do not work
[16:10] <IamTrying> Playstation 3 HDMI cable connect to a capture card but Ubuntu has driver issues. Which one really works? Is it me only trying no body tried in 11.04?
[16:10] <theadmin> dashavoo: Try out Xfce, it's "almost" gnome2
[16:10] <glebihan> theadmin, I wouldn't bet on mate getting into the ubuntu repos...
[16:10] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: the only packages that need installing, it says, are the kernel updates and nspluginwrapper (which I haven't used since I use 64-bit flash)
[16:11] <theadmin> glebihan: Well, at least someone might make a PPA :D
[16:11] <IamTrying> Ubuntu 11.04, HDMI capture card with driver which one works? I tried Blackmagic does not work, anything else.
[16:11] <dashavoo> hmmm, I had forgotten about Xfce... I haven't used it for years
[16:11] <AlecTaylor> How do I install the grub from sda5 into the MBR?
[16:12] <jwrigley> econdudeawesome: do you have multiple kernels installed?
[16:12] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: I believe so
[16:12] <theadmin> dashavoo: It's my main desktop for quite a while now, I enjoy it :)
[16:12] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: I started with 10.04 on this machine, haven't reinstalled since, just upgraded
[16:12] <IamTrying> Should i use Windows 7 or 8? Ubuntu 11.04 which capture card works?
[16:13] <jwrigley> econdudeawesome: you could do a ls /boot/ to check
[16:13] <LynxLite> hello
[16:13] <AlecTaylor> IamTrying: Windows 8 isn't too bad, but not worth switching to
[16:14] <IamTrying> AlecTaylor, MAC also works and Windows also works. Ubuntu no capture card works any reason of this?
[16:14] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: yes, I have multiple installed
[16:14] <gordoleon> hello a little help here please, having trouble with graphics
[16:14] <Braiam> !details gordoleon
[16:14] <jwrigley> econdudeawesome: you might be able to do dpkg -r linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic
[16:15] <IamTrying> Ubuntu 11.04, what is wrong with Blackmagic HDMI capture cards? none works.
[16:15] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: I'll give it a shot
[16:15] <theadmin> !details | gordoleon
[16:16] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: it did something... what is the expected (good) outcome?
[16:16] <amin`> does any one know what downloadmanager aria2 or else can recognize links like http://w.mfl.pl/fi|le|so|ni|c.|com/file/1972905384/The.Closer.S07E10.HDTV.XviD-P0W4.by.inaki007.avi
[16:16] <IamTrying> AlecTaylor, can i take Ubuntu terminal and systemV with me to Windows 8?
[16:16] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: http://paste.ubuntu.com/692378/
[16:17] <w30> I have a newbie question: I put grub on sda7. Where did it go? Does each partition have a mbr?
[16:17] <theadmin> IamTrying: This might be worth looking at for you: http://cygwin.com
[16:17] <theadmin> w30: You should put grub on /dev/sda
[16:17] <theadmin> w30: Putting it on a partition is usually not what you want
[16:17] <IamTrying> theadmin, i just want Ubuntu + Capture card support (HDMI/ DVI)
[16:18] <w30> theadmin, no, I have fedora grub on sda
[16:18] <w30> theadmin, chainloading
[16:18] <theadmin> w30: I see, well, that's up to you
[16:19] <w30> theadmin, is there a mbr section on every partition?
[16:20] <ThinkT510> w30: no, its 1 mbr per disk
[16:20] <w30> theadmin, I got it working I just want to know why
[16:20] <IamTrying> Windows, MAC operating system. HDMI/Playstation capture cards works like plug-n-play. Is there any plug-n-play Ubuntu compatible capture card for HDMI?
[16:20] <theadmin> w30: Nay, mbr is at the beginning on each drive
[16:21] <jwrigley> econdudeawesome: that sounds mostly good, do you have initrd.img.old and vmlinuz.old files in /
[16:21] <theadmin> IamTrying: Be patient. When someone knows, they will reply.
[16:21] <bencc> how can I find packages that depend on liblqr-1-0?
[16:21] <bencc> I want to see if there is a package that installs liquid-resize support for imagemgick
[16:21] <theadmin> bencc: apt-cache rdepends liblqr-1-0
[16:22] <IamTrying> theadmin, ok sorry, its very busy room. I am moving my eyes and all text disappear so i was asking to see myself alive.
[16:22] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: no *.old files in "ls /"
[16:22] <theadmin> IamTrying: Post on the forums and/or askubuntu.com in the meantime
[16:23] <MGParisi_Linux> How do you move the taskbars to a new monitor?
[16:23] <bencc> theadmin: thanks. found several libmagick... packages. need to see which one is needed
[16:23] <IamTrying> theadmin, ok excellent idea, i think here i wont find my answer. I just need HDMI capture card which is 100% compatible with Ubuntu 11.04 to use in Gimp/Java/Video4 linux.
[16:24] <w30> theadmin, so I have a mbr section area on each partition whether there is a boot on it or not, right?
[16:24] <ThinkT510> w30: no
[16:24] <jwrigley> econdudeawesome: alright any vmlinuz and initrd.img ?
[16:24] <w30> theadmin, the first 512 mb
[16:24] <theadmin> w30: No, MBR is the beginning of the DRIVE, before the partition ara
[16:24] <theadmin> s/ara/area/;
[16:24] <ThinkT510> w30: its one mbr at the beginning of the drive
[16:25] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: yes
[16:25] <AlecTaylor> IamTrying: Cygwin
[16:25] <gigenieks> Hi, guys! Quick question how can I check in (X)Ubuntu or in terminal how much free space I have?
[16:25] <bsmith093> when i add a thrid party repo, is it too much to ask to also automatically search for and install the proper public key?
[16:25] <jwrigley> good
[16:25] <zHammeRz> gigenieks, df -h
[16:25] <theadmin> gigenieks: df -h
[16:25] <jwrigley> if you do ls -l / where does vmlinuz point to?
[16:25] <IamTrying> AlecTaylor, thank you, i saw the source code of it, not so nice for me.
[16:25] <jwrigley> *econdudeawesome: if you do ls -l / where does vmlinuz point to?
[16:26] <w30> theadmin, so grub writes to the beginning of a partition that you choose or else to the mbr
[16:26] <theadmin> bsmith093: If you use add-apt-repository, it will try to do that for you
[16:26] <theadmin> w30: Yeah
[16:26] <AlecTaylor> ha
[16:26] <bsmith093> theadmin: oh, um wow thanks, i feel like an ass now.
[16:26] <Rainy-day> I have an nvidia card, in 'additional drivers', there are 2 cards listed, one is 173 and the other 'current', current says 'this driver is activated but not currently in use'. which one is in use?
[16:26] <AlecTaylor> How do I install the grub from sda5 into the MBR?
[16:27] <gordoleon> anybody can help me with a graphics problem?
[16:28] <w30> theadmin, and then if you chainload your bootloader looks at the first part of your named partition automatically
[16:28] <ThinkT510> AlecTaylor: boot into sda5 and then run: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[16:28] <ThinkT510> AlecTaylor: or install-grub (i can never remember which way around it is)
[16:28] <renan> hi, is it possible to make xubuntu 11.04 bypass the sound volume limit like ubuntu11.04, i already tried to get help in #xubuntu but got no response
[16:29] <theadmin> bsmith093: lol no problem
[16:29] <theadmin> w30: Yes, I beleive that is correct
[16:29] <AlecTaylor> ThinkT510: Can't boot into it, that's why I'm running from a 10.10 bootcd
[16:29] <w30> theadmin, thanks
[16:29] <jwrigley> * econdudeawesome: if you do ls -l / where does vmlinuz point to?
[16:30] <nameless`> i fixed my problem following this solution : http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Intel_GMA#Backlight_off_at_boot_on_4500M what would be the equivalent persistent solution as there is no /etc/local.d on ubuntu ?
[16:30] <econdudeawesome> boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-11-generic
[16:30] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-11-generic
[16:30] <ThinkT510> AlecTaylor: you could use supergrub rescue disk to boot into it
[16:31] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: sorry, didn't see your message earlier (sytax highlighting in irssi  didnt't catch * <name> ;-))
[16:32] <jwrigley> econdudeawesome: I thought as much :)  now sudo update-grub
[16:32] <theadmin> econdudeawesome: Try /hilight blah to highlight "blah" whenever it's met inside a post.
[16:32] <theadmin> econdudeawesome: By default irssi only highlights your name if it's at the beginning, so
[16:32] <econdudeawesome> theadmin you rock, thanks
[16:33] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: i ran sudo update-grub, ls -l / reports the same results
[16:34] <theadmin> econdudeawesome: np
[16:34] <jwrigley> econdudeawesome: fine, what does aptitude say?
[16:34] <nhr> Hi trying to find out if my rtc alarm is setup correctly. Can date command use the value from rtc and tell me in local time when is it set?
[16:36] <jeeves_moss> is there a way to convert in place a raidz-2 to a standard raidz in ZFS?
[16:36] <rabbi1> AcetoneISO says "NOTE: It is NOT possible to mount multi-sector images" what should i do with .iso file then ?
[16:36] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: sudo aptitude, OR sudo aptitude -f install?
[16:36] <ikonia> jeeves_moss: Linux doesn't use zfs
[16:36] <ikonia> jeeves_moss: the license stopped it getting in the kernel,
[16:36] <jeeves_moss> ikonia, it does if you use it through fuse
[16:36] <nameless`> i fixed my problem following this solution : http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Intel_GMA#Backlight_off_at_boot_on_4500M what would be the equivalent persistent solution as there is no /etc/local.d on ubuntu ?
[16:36] <theadmin> rabbi1: You can use the following command: "sudo mount -o loop something.iso /somewhere"
[16:36] <jwrigley> econdudeawesome: either
[16:37] <ikonia> jeeves_moss: so how can fuse modify a file system to "convert" ?
[16:37] <ikonia> jeeves_moss: it's a pass through, nothing more.
[16:37] <ikonia> jeeves_moss: there are no zfs tools or anything like that
[16:38] <rabbi1> theadmin: tried that first, gave me its "wrong fs type, bad option"
[16:38] <theadmin> rabbi1: Sounds like a bad ISO to me
[16:38] <jeeves_moss> ikonia, I have a 4.56Tb ZFS partition setup, and for some reason the 2 500Gb drives I added wern't added to the pool correctly, so I can't remove them to readd them to the proper partition
[16:38] <ikonia> jeeves_moss: no, as there are no zfs tools
[16:39]  * jiltdil  ikonia zfs-fuse
[16:39] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: same error
[16:39] <rabbi1> theadmin: but AcetoneISO says something else
[16:39] <jeeves_moss> ikonia, has it been mentioned in the new release yet that they're going to mainstream the code, or haven't they got past the GPL yet?
[16:39] <ikonia> jiltdil: they are not zfs tools....it is a pass through like ssh
[16:39] <ikonia> jeeves_moss: not there yet
[16:39] <ikonia> jiltdil: the same way you can't modify your ssh config using sshfs over fuse
[16:39] <Guest90616> I'm getting this error message from ubuntu server '  is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported. '
[16:39] <theadmin> rabbi1: Works perfectly fine on a regular ISO here: https://pzt.me/5c9i
[16:39] <jwrigley> econdudeawesome: exactly? or a little shorter? it should be shorter...
[16:40] <ikonia> Guest90616: your user is is not an authorized sudoer, the user needs to be in the "admin" group
[16:40] <jiltdil> ikonia i know i just said it is not tool it is fuse
[16:40] <jeeves_moss> ikonia, ok, I'm in the process of "testing" on my local NAS before I deploy it on a 32Tb server in production
[16:40] <rabbi1> theadmin: thanks, will have a look
[16:40] <rabbi1> :)
[16:40] <kvarley> My whole ubuntu partition is set to read-only, how can I find that? :( Chown doesn't work
[16:40] <ikonia> jiltdil: so why did you correct me saying zfs fuse when I said there was no tools
[16:40] <Guest90616> ikoniahow would i make it as admin  ?
[16:40] <jeeves_moss> ikonia, if they could make it native, it'll fly.  But there is a LOT of "tuning" that needs to be done to make it a production powerhouse
[16:41] <ikonia> jeeves_moss: I use it every day on Solaris, so I fully appreciate it, but it's not in Linux so I live without
[16:41] <jiltdil> ikonia: just see above i write only zfs-fuse i didn't use the word "tool" yet
[16:41] <rumpe1> kvarley, the root-partition is usually remounted as read-only, when errors were noticed
[16:41] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: http://paste.ubuntu.com/692394/
[16:41] <ikonia> Guest90616: is this your machine / do you administrate it
[16:41] <jeeves_moss> ikonia, well, never know, I just might deploy the freeSolaris on this production box, but I don't want to relearn yet another OS
[16:41] <ikonia> jiltdil: ok - why did you make the pointless comment "zfs-fuse" after I said there are no zfs tools
[16:41] <rabbi1> theadmin: what's in that? I already have 10 more pages suggesting how to get .iso contents :)
[16:41] <kvarley> rumpe1: So...What does that mean?
[16:42] <Guest90616> well I have the server right beside me and i accessing through my openssh
[16:42] <ikonia> Guest90616: that's not what I asked
[16:42] <jiltdil> ikonia oh man relax..ok i'm sorry that i write zfs-fuse no discusson please
[16:42] <rumpe1> kvarley, that means that it would probably be better to analyze, _why_ it is mounted readonly
[16:42] <rabbi1> what is this multi-sector images and how can i extract it if not with AcetoneISO
[16:42] <jeeves_moss> ikonia, just wondering why when I added the last 2 500Gb drives to the "pool", they added like this.  http://pastebin.com/h8YVVwh8
[16:42] <dominicdinada> why can i connect too one computers samba share on my windows 7 but on another server i cant connect it is trying to use my pc name as the domain ?
[16:42] <kvarley> rumpe1: Ah ok, thanks for your help, I shall investigate
[16:42] <ikonia> Guest90616: is this your server - do you admin it
[16:42] <ikonia> jiltdil: if you're going to help people, help them, don't make pointless comments
[16:42] <jeeves_moss> ikonia, and is it harming the way the pool is laied out?
[16:42] <Guest90616> ikonia yes i am
[16:43] <ikonia> Guest90616: what happened to the user you setup when the machine was installed
[16:43] <nameless`> hi, i solved my screen problem (http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Intel_GMA#Backlight_off_at_boot_on_4500M) but now i've got an empty desktop not even a panel or anything. The background works as i can create a folder but that's all
[16:43] <theadmin> rabbi1: Since it works, well, something's probably just wrong with your ISO
[16:43] <ikonia> jeeves_moss: it's not a problem, should be fine, if you jump into #solaris you'll get more / better help
[16:43] <jeeves_moss> ikonia, I set it up as a raidz-2 pool to test to see if one of the drives can tank before I pushed it to production
[16:43] <Guest90616> ikonia but i have never have this problem its a fresh installed server . I think i type into different user names
[16:43] <ikonia> jeeves_moss: as in the channel #solaris
[16:43] <Polah> Is there any program that can stream sound over ethernet to another device? I have uShare set up to stream to my Xbox since I have no speakers for my computer, but that only streams existing files, I'd like to be able to play something, say on Youtube, and stream the sound to my Xbox. Would that be possible?
[16:43] <jeeves_moss> ikonia, ok, thank.  I'm off.
[16:43] <FoxtrotZero> Is there by chance anyone online by the name of Terr or [deXter] ?
[16:43] <rabbi1> theadmin: hmm, may be, will check out then, thank you
[16:44] <ikonia> Guest90616: what happened to the user you setup when you installed the server
[16:44] <jeeves_moss> ikonia, do you know if adding a SSD drive as the cache drive is worth the time/investment, or should I just add a RAM PCI card, or allocate some RAM to the cache disk?
[16:45] <Guest90616> ikonia it ask me what user name you want it to be i type enter as X and then it ask me again I type in Y
[16:45] <amin`> dzen and trayer are the same kind application or complete each other (for Xmonad)?
[16:45] <Guest90616> ikonia would u recommened me to reboot the server and go into recovery mode and do a sudo adduser  x admin
[16:46] <ikonia> Guest90616: the user needs to be in the admin group, put it in how you feel confortable
[16:46] <Guest90616> ikonia, is there anyway i can find out how many user is created in the admin group in ubuntu server?
[16:46] <ikonia> Guest90616: it only creates 1
[16:47] <taavi_> anyone has an idea how can i get wifi on hp 625 notebook? ive actually done it before i just dont remember the commands. i have a broadcom chipset and ive installed under addiotional drivers the broadcom wireless sta driver. now when i run iwconfig it shows that eth1 is wireless driver
[16:47] <ikonia> Guest90616: hence why your user is not in it
[16:47] <taavi_> shouldnt it be wlan0?
[16:47] <theadmin> taavi_: Broadcom drivers create eth* interfaces
[16:47] <theadmin> taavi_: It's normal, nothing to worry about
[16:48] <Guest90616> ikonia i have no single clue,  i can't even do sudo shutdown -r on a ssh it said : shutdown: Need to be root
[16:48] <Guest90616> ikonia, oh wait .. does landscape affects the way
[16:48] <ikonia> Guest90616: correct, because you need to be in the admin group - put the user in the admin group
[16:48] <jwrigley> econdudeawesome: that looks quite different, I thought perhaps it was just 2 misinstalled kernels, but that looks more serious, you have glibc errors spurting out memory dumps.. do you remember when it started? were you doing anything in particular? meddling with anything, you might recall=
[16:48] <taavi_> theadmin : well under network connections it doesnt show up
[16:48] <econdudeawesome> hmm. Might have changed or added a symbolic link for glibc when I installed Matlab
[16:48] <Guest90616> ikonia i remember now i have it manage by landscape something, does that affect how i sudo/admin rights?
[16:48] <theadmin> taavi_: Just configure it yourself or use wicd, networkmanager sucks
[16:49] <FoxtrotZero> Right then. I'm trying to install Ubuntu, for which I would like to create a new partition; I must first shrink my NTFS 'C' partition, which has my Windows OS and my files on it. The problem is, that Partition has a Bad Sector in it, and GParted (which i'm running off of an ubuntu disk) refuses to work around it. I was referred last night by a [deXter] to do diagnostics on my Hard Drive,...
[16:49] <FoxtrotZero> ...which I did, but which didn't actually help anything.
[16:49] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: hmmm, might have. I remember messing around with glibc symbolic links when I installed matlab, to fix an error. But I replicated the process on other machines and saw no errors
[16:49] <ikonia> Guest90616: you're not listening,
[16:49] <taavi_> theadmin : il try my way with wicd :P
[16:50] <ThinkT510> FoxtrotZero: you don't fix bad sectors, that is the drive dying, you may need to get a new one
[16:50] <amin`> dzen and trayer are the same kind application or complete each other (for Xmonad)?
[16:50] <ThinkT510> FoxtrotZero: back up what you need before it is too late
[16:51] <jwrigley> econdudeawesome: no, I don't think that would do it. If you only played with symbolic links it would either fail completely -- nearly every program uses glibc -- or not at all
[16:51] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: at this point, considering how serious the issue is, I may just reinstall 11.04 on the partition (data is saved on a separate partition, so that doesn't concern me)
[16:51] <FoxtrotZero> ThinkT510: I know what a Bad Sector is, and I know you can't fix it, but it's been there for a long time, without trouble. Getting a new one is out of the question right now, and the data I particularly care about is safe. Nobody is willing to help me with my problem, and that's forcing gparted to work around the bad sector.
[16:51] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: I appreciate the help though
[16:52] <edbian> FoxtrotZero: likely there is more than one bad sector.  Take a look at disk utility to see more info.  If there are two many bad sectors then gparted will refuse to partition.  I'm not sure there is a way to force it.
[16:52] <jwrigley> econdudeawesome: I would think that to be the best idea. However, when you format the partition, do a slow format. it might be bad sectors causing trouble
[16:53] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: you think?
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> FoxtrotZero: in Terminal, there's the command badblocks
[16:53] <FoxtrotZero> edbian: According to the diagnostics I ran on the Hard Drive, there is only one bad sector. GParted says there is a way to force it to partition, but i'm currently in Windows, not ubuntu, so I can't quote it verbatim.
[16:53] <edbian> FoxtrotZero: I'm not sure then.
[16:54] <FoxtrotZero> MonkeyDust: I have to remind you, i'm in the process of installing ubuntu. You're going to have to be a little more descriptive, I don't know what Terminal is.
[16:54] <edbian> FoxtrotZero: If there was 1 bad sector the HDD would have simply used 1 from the pool of extra sectors.  Is the pool already used up and now there is a bad one?
[16:54] <econdudeawesome> FoxtrotZero: do you have a GUI (not command-line)
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> FoxtrotZero: Terminal is the command prompt
[16:54] <edbian> FoxtrotZero: typically a given harddrive will have dozens of bad sectors depending on how old it is (3 or 4 years in this example)
[16:54] <econdudeawesome> jwrigley: thanks man, take it easy
[16:55] <jwrigley> econdudeawesome: no worries, man. any time
[16:55] <nameless`> at gdm screen i have the choice between ubuntu/ubuntu classic. How can i set Ubuntu Classic as the default one ?
[16:55] <jwrigley> nameless`: use ubuntu classic once...
[16:55] <nameless`> jwrigley: ok :)
[16:56] <FoxtrotZero> edbian: I don't know, but the computer is around five years old. It's only reported one bad sector for as long as i've had it, which was secondhand from my father a few years ago. Edondudeawesome, yes, but i'm currently working in WinXP. And Monkeydust, unless you can tell me how to use Terminal to make Gparted resize the partition...
[16:56] <nameless`> jwrigley: i fixed my problem though !
[16:56] <jeeves_moss> the system that I've speced out is a 24 bay, 2U server.  drive wise, it would be a mirrored set of 160Gb drives (OS partition), 4 54Gb SSD drives (MySQL and fast encoding disks) on a 4 port battery backed up SATA RAID card (512Bm RAM), and 16 1Tb (or 2Tb if I can get the finding) as one large ZFS raidz-2 parition.  16 3Ghz cores, and 128Gb of PC5200 RAM.  can anyone see a bottleneck here?
[16:56] <jwrigley> nameless`: cool, what did the trick?
[16:56] <nameless`> jwrigley: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Intel_GMA#Backlight_off_at_boot_on_4500M
[16:56] <nameless`> jwrigley: it seemed to be an unresolved bug
[16:57] <nameless`> jwrigley: i put the setpci command in rc.local and it did the trick
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> FoxtrotZero: try booting from a ubuntu live cd and use gparted from there
[16:58] <FoxtrotZero> MonkeyDust: That's exactly what i'm doing. Like I said, GParted refuses to resize the partition because of the bad sector, but it says there is some -bad-sectors command or something I can use to force ntfsresize to ignore the bad sector.
[16:59] <jwrigley> nameless`: cool.
[16:59] <macer1> Does Mark Shuttleworth have a public email, or only contact to him is Launchpad?
[16:59] <jwrigley> nameless`: Does that mean you were working in total darkness before? I thought you were just trying to set the resolution...
[17:00] <taavi_> theadmin : i have the wicd daemon running, but i cant see it anywhere to my system to configure
[17:00] <nameless`> jwrigley: no, i could boot with the nomodeset option in grub and with vesa driver. But i was stuck in a very bad resolution (1024x768 on a 16:9 screen)
[17:00] <theadmin> taavi_: Um, you should run wicd-gtk so it appears in your tray
[17:01] <nameless`> jwrigley: so i deleted the nomodeset and i type the command in the darkness :)
[17:02] <Guest90616> how i change my self to admin at the recovery mode? or make it have rights for sudo  and even root?
[17:02] <theadmin> Guest90616: sudo adduser username admin
[17:03] <Guest90616> theadmin it says admin doesn't exist?
[17:03] <theadmin> Guest90616: Huh?...
[17:03] <ikonia> Guest90616: you've been told
[17:03] <ikonia> Guest90616: you need to add the user you are using to the admin group
[17:04] <ikonia> Guest90616: you need to do this from a recovery shell OR the user you setup the system with when you first installed it
[17:04] <theadmin> Guest90616: You can also try "sudo usermod -aG admin username"
[17:04] <FoxtrotZero> MonkeyDust: Perhaps there is another program that's more willing to work around the bad sector? Do you know of any for Windows?
[17:04] <Guest90616> ikonia i'm already in reocvery shell
[17:04] <Guest90616> root too
[17:04] <muntiKubu> which package has the add-apt-repository? tia
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> FoxtrotZero: can't help with win, haven't used it for years
[17:05] <FoxtrotZero> MonkeyDust: Yeah, I assumed this would be the wrong place to ask about that. I'll do some research, see if I can find a good Windows partitioning program.
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> FoxtrotZero: try ##windows
[17:05] <muntiKubu> !add-apt-repository
[17:05] <FoxtrotZero> MonkeyDust: Thanks for the assistance anyway. I understand the Hard Drive's life might be coming to a close, but replacing it simply isn't an option.
[17:05] <FoxtrotZero> MonkeyDust: Is that a channel?
[17:06] <MonkeyDust> FoxtrotZero: yes, double hash
[17:06] <Guest90616> theadmin is gave me errror:' usermod: group 'admin' doesn't exist'
[17:06] <jwrigley> nameless`: brilliant! Add an Indiana Jones sound track and a great abyss (rm -rf /), and there's your movie. :)
[17:06] <theadmin> Guest90616: You seriously made some mess there
[17:07] <Guest90616> theadmin indeed i'm totally at lost i just installed a fresh and some how i messed it up
[17:07] <jrib> Guest90616: is this an ubuntu install?
[17:07] <Guest90616> jrib its a server.
[17:07] <jrib> Guest90616: how did you install ubuntu?
[17:07] <pipodeclown> groupadd admin
[17:08] <jrib> !away > Jasonn
[17:08] <ikonia> pipodeclown: that won't help
[17:08] <macer1> !away > macer1
[17:08] <theadmin> !msgthebot | macer1
[17:08] <Guest90616> pipodeclown did that hopes it works now .
[17:08] <Jasonn> jrib: Is it really that big of a problem?
[17:09] <macer1> ok, sorry ubottu :D
[17:09]  * theadmin haz dejavu
[17:09] <jrib> Jasonn: it's kind of like polluting... not that bad if one person does it but a big problem if a lot of people do it
[17:09] <Jasonn> jrib: I suppose :/
[17:10] <mom> what nvidia driver is for nVidia Corporation NV17GL [Quadro NVS] (rev a3)?
[17:10] <mom> mom, for 3d?
[17:10] <theadmin> mom: Just find it at nvidia.com
[17:11] <mom> theadmin, its legacy though
[17:11] <theadmin> mom: Oh... That could be a problem
[17:12] <ThinkT510> mom: whats wrong with the one from the additional drivers tool?
[17:12] <mom> theadmin, i think it is 96 . . .not sure . . .
[17:13] <mom> ThinkT510, i dont know which one it installed?
[17:13] <jwrigley> nameless`: sorry, my jokes sound sarcastic when I write them down, it wasn't meant to be.
[17:13] <delac> In Openoffice Calc, is there any way to attach a image to all sheets at once?
[17:13] <mom> ThinkT510, anyone it isnt working glxinfo
[17:13] <mom> anyone=anyway
[17:14] <ThinkT510> mom: type jockey-gtk
[17:14] <nameless`> jwrigley: i sorry i just read it, my blank wasn't supposed to sound upseted :)
[17:15] <RITSCHI1988> hi @ all :D
[17:15] <mom> ThinkT510, not found
[17:15] <theadmin> RITSCHI1988: This is not Twitter.
[17:15] <nameless`> jwrigley: and yeah, it was a hell of an adventure, but i finally get the graal and a functionnal system
[17:15] <ThinkT510> mom: what you running?
[17:15] <mom> ThinkT510, LTS
[17:15] <Khodam> & @ u RITSCHI1988
[17:15] <RITSCHI1988> sorry I'm new
[17:15] <jwrigley> nameless`: woohoo!
[17:16] <ThinkT510> mom: should be on 10.04, you sure you typed it right?
[17:16] <Khodam> u mean its ur firs time come here? RITSCHI1988?
[17:16] <knightvoid> hey all
[17:16] <Khodam> hey knightvoid
[17:17] <Khodam> whats?
[17:18] <RITSCHI1988> yes I'm German... my English is very bad :(
[17:19] <theadmin> RITSCHI1988: Sie konnen Deutsche support in #ubuntu-de finden.
[17:19] <theadmin> RITSCHI1988: Schreiben sie "/join #ubuntu-de" ein.
[17:20] <prashant_123456> hello all
[17:20] <RITSCHI1988> thank you :D
[17:22] <carael> hi
[17:22] <lexx_it> hi everyone) can you help, please? why alt+f[1-6] switches to tty from Xserver
[17:22] <theadmin> lexx_it: Because that's what it's supposed to do... Actually, Ctrl+Alt+F[1-6]
[17:23] <terr> has anyone seen goodnerd since last night?
[17:24] <theadmin> terr: Someone here was searching for you
[17:24] <theadmin> terr: FoxtrotZero I beleive
[17:24] <terr> theadmin: might have been him.  I was going to help him with some c code.
[17:24] <lexx_it> actualy, I expect that alt-f2 run xfrun4 or smthing else in other DE, but it switches to tty.
[17:24] <terr> theadmin: ya foxtrot and I had a nice chat.
[17:24] <FoxtrotZero> Terr: Ah, hello chap
[17:25] <FoxtrotZero> theadmin: Thanks for inadvertantly alerting me to his presence.
[17:25] <terr> FoxtrotZero: only here for about 5 mins... I have to be at the library in 1/2 an hour or then ding me.
[17:25] <theadmin> FoxtrotZero: lol, thank /lastlog
[17:25] <theadmin> FoxtrotZero: Otherwise I wouldn't remember who was searching :D
[17:26] <Frederick> folks I need a small help with my networking can you give me a hand? I got a lappy from my comany and they "customized" ubuntu and now dhcp seems boorked I get no liases from my modem what can I do?
[17:26] <theadmin> Frederick: Is this ethernet?
[17:26] <Corey> Frederick: Talk to your IT folks.  That's what they're paid for.
[17:27] <ikonia> Frederick: speak to your company - we shouldn't change their settings
[17:27] <terr> Corey: that is not a good answer IMHO
[17:27] <HelloWorld321> Should I be worried about a "reinst-required" message from dpkg?   http://pastebin.com/TvZgjjJr
[17:27] <Frederick> ikonia: im the it folk
[17:27] <theadmin> ikonia: Could be he just has no dhcpcd running for some reason
[17:27] <ikonia> terr: it's the best answer to give
[17:27] <ikonia> Frederick: then you should know how they customised it
[17:27] <lexx_it> theadmin, I mean why alt-f1 switches, not only ctrl-alt-f1 (from X session of course)
[17:27] <terr> I think we should have a utility which checks the configs and tells us what is borked
[17:27] <ikonia> theadmin: enabling it could be against company policy and get him into trouble, hence the guys in IT who customised it should help him
[17:27] <Frederick> Therstrium: yes ethernet and U di have dhcp running
[17:27] <Corey> terr: We don't know what they changed, or hwhat policies matter.
[17:27] <theadmin> lexx_it: Oh, that'd be weird to happen
[17:27] <Frederick> ikonia: company has 10.000 employes I'm on other sector for sakes
[17:28] <ikonia> Frederick: contact the IT group who modified it and ask them to help you resolve it, it's their build, not our standard ubuntu one
[17:28] <terr> I've been in the situation quite a number of times where a stupid config is borked and it takes me hours to track down the problem... and I've got consultants I can call!
[17:28] <ikonia> terr: why are you saying these things, it has no relevence
[17:28] <Frederick> ikonia: oki just dont talk to me ignore my messages thx
[17:29] <Frederick> folks dont feed the trolll
[17:29] <terr> ikonia: it has.  Lets write a utility which checks this stuff.
[17:29] <Tom11> I need help with ubuntu
[17:29] <ikonia> Frederick: no - please understand why don't support non-standard ubuntu builds
[17:29] <lexx_it> theadmin, nevertheless it is
[17:29] <jwrigley> terr: easy answer: Call up a swedish chef and have him translate...
[17:29] <ikonia> terr: "you" right a utility that checks it, I don't need one thanks
[17:29] <taavi_> theadmin : unfortunately i can´t connect to wifi even if i have the password 100% correct. I even tried removing encryption from the wifi but then wicd just freezes
[17:29] <amin`> how could I use this icon set with Dzen : http://dzen.geekmode.org/dwiki/lib/exe/detail.php?id=dzen%3Aicon-packs&media=dzen:sm4tik_icons.png
[17:30] <terr> ikonia: if you don't need it and Corey does then maybe Corey and I should ask you to tell us what files to check and in what order
[17:30] <blue112_> Hi everyone.
[17:30] <ikonia> terr: Corey doesn't
[17:31] <Guest90616> How do select wireless iinternet access point ?in ubuntu server? i' have wireless driver setup and it have wlan0 setup. now i want to select my own wireless internet and type in my password
[17:31] <blue112_> I have a TV card which I'd like to use to play Wii on my computer. The problem is, when I launch xawtv, my system completly freeze. Sysreq query doesn't works, etc. How can I fix that problem ?
[17:31] <Tom11> Can I download software from the oneiric repository if I am on Jaunty?
[17:31] <terr> ikonia: I can sure use all the help I can get.  Like when the OS panics because I didn't use mkinird adn I'm down for a week!
[17:31] <Frederick> folks I think I know the problem in /etc/networks I get a lot of mumbo jumbo can I delete the contents of it and replace for auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp?
[17:31] <theadmin> Guest90616: sudo ip link set wlan0 up ; wpa_passphrase "whatever" > /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf ; wpa_supplicant -Dwext
[17:31] <ikonia> Frederick: please stop asking - we won't support you
[17:31] <theadmin> Guest90616: That's the basic idea
[17:32] <terr> ikonia: at that time so was the university because we both relied on the same consultant and we were both screwed... adn  its becaise of crappy docs which never get fixed
[17:32] <glebihan> Tom11, you can but should really not
[17:32] <Guest90616> theadmin do i have to backup wpa_supplicant.conf before editing?
[17:32] <theadmin> Guest90616: I don't think so, unless you had anything there before
[17:32] <terr> I'm gone for about an hour.  Ciao
[17:32] <blue112_> It seems like I have a lot of "[  157.264029] cx88[0]: irq pci [0x1000] brdg_err*" errors in my dmesg before it crashes. (cx88 is my card)
[17:33] <Guest90616> theadmin i just want get habit saving the file before changing.
[17:33] <Tom11> Glebihan- I only want one package - Lazarus
[17:33] <theadmin> Guest90616: Well, then do backup, not like I have anything against it
[17:33] <HelloWorld321> Should I be worried about a "reinst-required" message from dpkg?   Should I remove and re-install?  http://pastebin.com/TvZgjjJr
[17:33] <Frederick> folks any ideas for me?
[17:33] <glebihan> Tom11, even so, you should not, it'll probably have dependencies
[17:33] <theadmin> Frederick: We do not support any kind of derivati... oh. Thank you, ikonia
[17:34] <Frederick> ikonia: man cant you grow up?
[17:34] <ikonia> Frederick: please respect the policy of the channel - and stop asking.
[17:34] <theadmin> Frederick: Must we repeat? We do not support derivatives.
[17:35] <Frederick> It says ubuntu it is 99,999% ubuntu
[17:35] <Guest90616> theadmin what is the command to backup the .conf?
[17:35] <Tom11> Glebihan - i can download the metapackage but I don't know how to execute it - if it goes wrong it doesn't matter.
[17:35] <Frederick> all configs are the same i'm missing some detail
[17:35] <theadmin> Guest90616: sudo cp /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf.bak
[17:35] <ikonia> Frederick: but it's not - so stop asking, ask your IT support guys who customised it and know the policy
[17:35] <Frederick> if I hadnt provided such info you would never know dont be elitists
[17:35] <jrib> Frederick: go grab a live cd and replicate the issue
[17:35] <Frederick> jrib: the issue is I could not get dhcpcd to work
[17:35] <trism> HelloWorld321: I don't think you have any issue with that package, it is listed as ii, the messages at the top just describe what the letters in front of the packages mean (desired = install status = installed)
[17:36] <glebihan> Tom11, a metapackage is even less likely to work correctly
[17:36] <jrib> Frederick: I'm not asking you what the issue is.  I'm telling you to replicate your issue on an unmodified ubuntu
[17:36] <delac> In Openoffice Calc, is there any way to attach a image to all sheets at once?
[17:37] <jrib> !ooo | delac
[17:37] <skcud> Is there any way to check with application is using the GPU?
[17:37] <HelloWorld321> trism: tx
[17:37] <glebihan> !pm > Tom11
[17:37] <taavi_> theadmin : unfortunately i can´t connect to wifi even if i have the password 100% correct. I even tried removing encryption from the wifi but then wicd just freezes. Any ideas what should i do next?
[17:37] <Frederick> jrib: you dont wven know what kind of customizations where made. Folks just changed the startong pakcages but against you are being elitists and childish
[17:37] <blue112_> Any help, or better channel to ask for my TV card ?
[17:37] <th0r> jrib: ikonia you know guys, the entertainment value would be a lot higher if we just borked Frederick's company's install <smile>
[17:37] <theadmin> Sorry, no ideas on that one, taavi_
[17:38] <delac> jrib: yes, althoug #openoffice.org is pretty dead. that's why I'm here
[17:38] <taavi_> back to windows i guess :/
[17:38] <jrib> delac: ok, no problem.  It's okay to ask here too but just wanted to give you another channel to try
[17:38] <Tom11> Glebihan- Sorry - first timer
[17:38] <jrib> delac: (because I saw your question earlier)
[17:38] <theadmin> taavi_: Sorry about that, Linux and wireless have always been enemise
[17:38] <theadmin> enemies*
[17:38] <glebihan> Tom11, no problem
[17:39] <glebihan> Tom11, as I said, a metapackage won't work, it will have dependencies that won't be met
[17:39] <taavi_> theadmin : the thig is that i actually had it working a year ago, i´m on the same network as before. Using ylmfos 3.0 ( updated to ubuntu 10.10 )
[17:39] <theadmin> taavi_: Oh, we don't support ylmf
[17:39] <Tom11> Glebihan - do I need to add the oneiric repository?
[17:39] <HelloWorld321> borked it?  as in made a scandal during the confirmation hearings?
[17:40] <glebihan> Tom11, that's what you *really* shouldn't do
[17:40] <djazz> I'm making a Ubuntu countdown :)
[17:40] <glebihan> Tom11, it's very likely to break you system
[17:40] <jiltdil> Is moonlight a trusted on to use ?
[17:40] <semitones> do Ubuntu and Kubuntu use different sound architectures?
[17:40] <djazz> anyone wanna see it?
[17:40] <theadmin> semitones: I'd think so, Ubuntu uses Pulse, Kubuntu uses ALSA
[17:41] <theadmin> semitones: Or it was so the last time I checked
[17:41] <Tom11> Glebihan - can't i use software from other repositories - because i need a newer version of Lazarus
[17:41] <ThinkT510> !ot | djazz
[17:41] <djazz> so..
[17:41] <djazz> its ubuntu related, so?
[17:41] <glebihan> Tom11, either you can find a newer version in a ppa, or you would have to install it manually (ie compile it)
[17:42] <ThinkT510> djazz: it is not a support issue
[17:42] <HelloWorld321> what I'm really trying to do is figure out what directory my ij is installed.  I've never used derby before, and I've submitted data to it via a Java EE6 tutorial, and I want to see it in the database.
[17:42] <Guest90616> theadmin the requirement for wpa_supplicant . is to sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant?
[17:42] <llutz> theadmin: pulseaudion sits on top of alsa (middleware), it doesn't replace it
[17:42] <Tom11> Glebihan - what is a ppa?
[17:42] <djazz> this should be #ubuntu-support then :P
[17:42] <ThinkT510> !ppa | Tom11
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> Tom11: personal package archive
[17:43] <Guest90616> theadmin the strange thing is their is no file call wpa_supplicant.conf unless i looking at the wrong folder
[17:44] <synackfin> is there a way to scroll up or view the errors upon booting ubuntu?  It's printing some important errors, then hundreds of "permission denied: read only file-system" during the initramfs
[17:44] <Tom11> Glebihan - can i download the .deb and use dpkg to install?
[17:44] <glebihan> Tom11, no that won't work
[17:45] <theadmin> llutz: I know, it's just that iirc Kubuntu doesn't use Pulse at all
[17:45] <glebihan> Tom11, also that jaunty has reached its end of life, you best option would be to upgrade to a  newer version
[17:45] <ThinkT510> synackfin: you could check the logs at /var/logs/
[17:45] <synackfin> ThinkT510: it's not getting that far
[17:45] <Osmond> Question, have they come up with a way to watch netflix on Linux yet? I would like to finally get rid of windows, but my only source of television is streaming netflix.
[17:46] <synackfin> ThinkT510: it's dying before doing the mounts
[17:46] <theadmin> Osmond: Well, netflix isn't open-source, it's up to their creators to make a proper Linux client
[17:46] <HelloWorld321> Just a thought here: WiNE for NetFlix?
[17:46] <Tom11> glebihan Is it too late to upgrade? I think  the repository is closed.
[17:47] <Osmond> I know, the whole Silverlight thing, but I had heard word of some hacked version of something that had been created that allowed netflix on Linux
[17:47] <ThinkT510> !eol | Tom11
[17:48] <glebihan> Tom11, it's still possible (see above links) though a fresh install would probably be a better idea
[17:48] <Osmond> It really does suck because Ubuntu runs SO much faster than Windows, it's way more stable, all around Ubuntu just owns Windows, netflix is that only factor keeping windows on my machine. :(
[17:49] <Tom11> glebihan Are LTS versions like Lucid better than the others?
[17:49] <ThinkT510> Tom11: define better
[17:49] <th0r> Osmond: so talk to netflix about linux support
[17:49] <glebihan> Tom11, not really better (if there's a way to define better)
[17:49] <Osmond> th0r I've sent them a few e-mails already. :D
[17:49] <glebihan> Tom11, they're only supported longer
[17:49] <HelloWorld321> Osmond: I know exactly what you mean.  I had the same situation until I gave up WoW.  :P
[17:50] <Osmond> HelloWorld321 The only games I play are MUDs, so I'm golden game wise.
[17:50] <Guest90616> anyone know if this works sudo ip link set wlan0 up ; wpa_passphrase "whatever" > /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf ; wpa_supplicant -Dwext ? automatic connection when i reboot?
[17:50] <HelloWorld321> !ot HelloWorld321
[17:51] <ujjain> How do I apply a patch file?
[17:51] <Tom11> Glebihan - thanks a lot - very helpful.
[17:51] <jrib> ujjain: with the patch command (man patch is *very* readable)
[17:51] <glebihan> Tom11, you're welcome
[17:51] <Guest90616> theadmin you told me to do this ' sudo ip link set wlan0 up ; wpa_passphrase "whatever" > /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf ; wpa_supplicant -Dwext  ' how would i make it automatic connect when i reboot the server?
[17:52] <Tom11> glebihan - one last question - is there a way of filtering the output on the pidgin screen?
[17:53] <glebihan> Tom11, I don't know, I don't use pidgin as irc client
[17:53] <ujjain> always stupid 401 error with checkgmail :(
[17:53] <th0r> Tom11: there is a plugin for blocking join/part messages, and you can /ignore individual nicks
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> th0r: just type /ignore blah
[17:54] <rdyco> I have 3 OS to boot from. Windows as main system. Ubuntu is second and Centos is third. But after installing CentOS, I can't boot into ubuntu anymore. It only offers me 2 choice to boot from, CentOS or Windows. So I boot into Ubuntu's liveCD and use these commands: sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/; sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda
[17:54] <th0r> MonkeyDust: right-click on the nick and choose ignore
[17:54] <rdyco> any idea how to fix this cuz now when i boot, i don't get any choices. it takes me directly to grub>
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> th0r: yes, if you use a gui to chat
[17:55] <th0r> MonkeyDust: the question was regarding pidgin
[17:55] <LynxLite> hi
[17:55] <qbert65536> how can I check if a package ( phpmyadmin ) is installed ?
[17:55] <KrashKing> got an upgrade question
[17:56] <theadmin> qbert65536: dpkg -L|grep phpmyadmin
[17:56] <qbert65536> theadmin, thx :)
[17:56] <theadmin> !grub2|rdyco see the recoveringgrub link
[17:56] <rousing> hi
[17:56] <qbert65536> its not installed
[17:57] <KrashKing> I have 10.10 and want to go to 11.04, if I download the ISO can I upgrade from it  without having to burn the image?
[17:57] <theadmin> qbert65536: Then, you have to install it, I suppose
[17:57] <rousing> i'm trying to use conky to display weather, http://paste.ubuntu.com/692433/ i have some troubles, if any can have a look please
[17:57] <theadmin> KrashKing: You can't upgrade using the ISO, use update-manager
[17:57] <qbert65536> theadmin, hehe yeah :)
[17:57] <Gentoo64> KrashKing, you can just use the update manager
[17:57] <KrashKing> afraid of that, sandboxed computer
[17:57] <theadmin> KrashKing: Or, download an AlternateCD
[17:57] <theadmin> KrashKing: Then, you can mount the ISO image and upgrade
[17:58] <ErKaN> hi
[17:58] <ErKaN> just installed ubuntu 11.04 but howevere the login screen is broken, even if i manage login, it goes nowhere.. any idea ?
[18:01] <aperture> Okay, time for a guru challenge question....
[18:02] <jpmh> I have a usb touch screen - lshal and lsusb both show that it is recognize and I see that I need to use the hidtouch driver for it - so installed that, created a /etc/udev/init.d/99-mydevices with the device in there but ls /dev/usb still shows only hiddev0..hiddev2 - what am I missing
[18:02] <Hans_Henrik> i need to automatically run a bunch of commands as root during each startup, but not before the ethernet connection is established to my router (fully manual config, dont use dhcp & co)... any ideas?
[18:02] <theadmin> aperture: Ask first, most of people who say that ask really noobish questions :P
[18:02] <theadmin> Hans_Henrik: /etc/crontab
[18:03] <jpmh> Hans_Henrik: ifup
[18:03] <aperture> on a computer was a windows xp install and a windows 7 install. The windows 7 install had a virus, and after some failures now the MBR is messed up. So, booting into 10.04 disc (checksummed and all) leads to it constantly crashing. Occasionally it gets into steps for installing. But once it hits step 3, it will crash. So. How can I wipe the harddrive and put ubuntu on there?
[18:03] <theadmin> Hans_Henrik: echo "@reboot /path/to/script/to/run.sh" >> /etc/crontab # And you're all set
[18:03] <jpmh> Hans_Henrik: crontab is not the way to go since it will happen at THE TIME specified rather than when you have a connection
[18:03] <ErKaN> just installed ubuntu 11.04 but howevere the login screen is broken, even if i manage login, it goes nowhere.. any idea ? tried reinstall again its the same.. also tried wubi no difference..
[18:04] <theadmin> aperture: sudo fdisk /dev/sda , after that type in "o", then "w" and finally reboot, and now try again
[18:04] <theadmin> aperture: Without any quotes
[18:04] <HelloWorld321> Will this set my $DERBY_HOME variable?    export DERBY_HOME=/opt/derby
[18:05] <aperture> theadmin: type that into where?
[18:05] <Hans_Henrik> theadmin: can i specify "only once during startup" in /etc/crontab ?
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> aperture: in the Terminal command prompt
[18:05] <theadmin> Hans_Henrik: @reboot is the way
[18:05] <theadmin> aperture: Um, a terminal?
[18:05] <nanicoar> Heyall. I'm having a strange monitor issue. I have two screen of different specs and one nv GPU. If I use TwinView I get screen tearing like an old TV broadcast out of synch, but in Separate X Screen mode the wrong screen gets set as the main one. Any help/guidance?
[18:06] <aperture> MonkeyDust: Yes, but how can I get to the terminal once I boot from disc? Any specific key I have to hit?
[18:06] <Enlighten_me> Hi My Ubuntu get Stuck while Shut Down at The Fourth Dot. I'm using ubuntu 10.10
[18:07] <theadmin> aperture: After booted, Ctrl+Alt+T should get you into one
[18:07] <Total_Oblivion> i want to do dual booting with w7. Should i choose install Ubuntu alongisde w7 or somthing else?
[18:08] <aperture> theadmin: I can't actually boot into the LiveCD environment though. Only get to the specific menu (with bootable options for ubuntu), and I hit "Install ubuntu" instead of "try without installing" in order to even get to the installer.
[18:09] <theadmin> aperture: Ah... That's odd
[18:09] <Enlighten_me> Hi My Ubuntu get Stuck while Shut Down at The Fourth Dot. I'm using ubuntu 10.10. Any Suggestions?
[18:09] <mattmurray28> hey guys, if i have a x86 based pc, what version of ubuntu should i download, x32 or x64?
[18:09] <ikonia> x32
[18:09] <theadmin> mattmurray28: x32, duh
[18:09] <mattmurray28> cool
[18:09] <mattmurray28> thanks
[18:09] <aperture> theadmin: Indeed. using a windows 7 installer disc generates blue screens, while in ubuntu it just freezes the system. Hard drive failure you think?
[18:09] <mattmurray28> im a bit of a noob :P
[18:09] <mattmurray28> cheers
[18:09] <mattmurray28> cya
[18:10] <FloodBot1> mattmurray28: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:10] <theadmin> aperture: Could be, indeed
[18:10] <aperture> theadmin: Also, I have had ubuntu on the system before, but that was years ago
[18:10] <ErKaN> just installed ubuntu 11.04 but howevere the login screen is broken, even if i manage login, it goes nowhere.. tried reinstall again its the same.. also tried wubi no difference.. any idea ?
[18:10] <Jordan_U> ErKaN: What if you select a failsafe GNOME session at the login screen?
[18:11] <ErKaN> recovery mode Jordan_U ?
[18:12] <Jordan_U> ErKaN: It's not the same as the recovery mode option at boot if that's what you're asking.
[18:12] <Morfeus^> hello :)
[18:12] <synackfin> does anyone else have trouble booting 11.10 server ?
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> synackfin: #ubuntu+1
[18:12] <ErKaN> Jordan_U: i can't choose anything in login screen, coz its seperated 2 window weirdly
[18:13] <Enlighten_me> Hi My Ubuntu get Stuck while Shut Down at The Fourth Dot. I'm using ubuntu 10.10. Any Suggestions?
[18:15] <FoxtrotZero> Okay, so the only guy in ##windows who was able to help with my problem is no longer helping. He had me run a diagnostic of my Hard Drive - I have it pastebinned if anyone wants to see it. I imagine i'm speaking to a new audience, so my problem is that in my pursuit of an ubuntu install, I need to shrink a partition and create a new one, which is hampered by a bad sector that I need to...
[18:15] <FoxtrotZero> ...somehow 'repair'.
[18:16] <xangua> or buy a ne HD ;)
[18:17] <FoxtrotZero> Xangua: You're not the first to suggest that. Can you imagine that I have not thought of that? I assure you, acquiring a new Hard Drive is entirely out of the question, particularly when this one wasn't giving me any trouble until I decided I wanted to screw with partitions...
[18:18] <Jordan_U> FoxtrotZero: Do you know which sector it is? If so, you can use dd to simply write to that sector which will usually cause the drive to remap it.
[18:20] <raven_> how to remove manually compiled packages? (jack 1.9.7)
[18:20] <FoxtrotZero> Jordan_U: No, I don't personally know what sector it is. Theoretically, I could go back into the Samsung HDD diagnostic program, run the disk scan until it stumbles on the bad block again, and then write down the number it uses to identify it...
[18:21] <anAngel> Hello. Is it possible to upgrade from 32bit to 64bit? How about a cross-distro 32 to 64bit upgrade for example 32bit debian to 64bit ubuntu?
[18:21] <xangua> anAngel: no
[18:21] <theadmin> anAngel: No, not possible
[18:22] <ThinkT510> anAngel: backup what you need and fresh install 64bit
[18:23] <raven_> how to remove manually compiled packages? (jack 1.9.7)
[18:23] <xangua> raven_: the same way you installed it, reading the instructions ;)
[18:23] <theadmin> raven_: The only option is to remove all files manually, normally.
[18:23] <theadmin> raven_: For the future, use "checkinstall" when compiling manually.
[18:26] <shadowcock> http://i.imgur.com/UksXB.png
[18:26] <theadmin> wtf.
[18:26] <xangua> !ops | shadowcock
[18:27] <LynxLite> Shadow cock
[18:27] <LynxLite> That picture was disturbing
[18:27] <Corey> LynxLite: It requires no comment.
[18:27] <Gentoo64> what have i missed
[18:27] <Flannel> Nothing.
[18:28] <LynxLite> Gentoo64 a man has put a "penis" picture
[18:28] <LynxLite> It was lewd
[18:28] <anAngel> Thanks for all the answers. But i will wait some time and ask again if someone else answers
[18:28] <oCean> LynxLite: move on please
[18:28] <Gentoo64> ah ok
[18:28] <Gentoo64> boring
[18:28] <Corey> LynxLite: Was I somehow unclear with "it requires no comment?"
[18:28] <LynxLite> ok ok
[18:28] <xangua> anAngel: the answer will not change if that is what you think
[18:28] <ErKaN> installed ubuntu 11.04 but however the login screen is seperated to two window, even if i manage login, it goes nowhere.. tried reinstall again its the same.. also tried wubi no difference.. any idea ?
[18:28] <LynxLite> I'll move on
[18:29] <ThinkT510> anAngel: you cannot upgrade from 32 to 64bit, period.
[18:30] <raven_> xangua, the native maverick packages are installed correctly (/usr/bin/qjackctl) but i cannot open it via "/usr/bin/qjackctl" - what is going on here!!!?
[18:30] <Corey> anAngel: Urm, you can wait forever if you'd like-- it doesn't change that no distribution that I'm aware of lets you.. oh.
[18:31] <ThinkT510> anAngel: you cannot upgrade from 32 to 64bit, period.
[18:31]  * MalawiEh : looking for vodka
[18:31] <Corey> anAngel: Urm, you can wait forever if you'd like-- it doesn't change that no distribution that I'm aware of lets you install 64 bit from a 32 bit environment.
[18:32] <anAngel> xangua: i just wandered if it is possible  since i happened to see this article: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/hobbies/debian_arch_up/ .and thought it might be helpfull if it was really possible
[18:32] <bwallen> What driver do I have to load for my motherboard's onboard serial port?
[18:32] <ThinkT510> bwallen: i wouldn't have thought you'd have to
[18:33] <glebihan> anAngel, and did you read the first sentence ? "This procedure is, in every possible respect, a bad idea."
[18:33] <bwallen> ThinkT510: Is that because the driver is  already pre-compiled into the Ubuntu kernel?
[18:33] <ThinkT510> bwallen: i would have thought so
[18:34] <false> I'm having an issue with Empathy connecting to MSN, just says disconnected, no reason specified.
[18:35] <Jordan_U> FoxtrotZero: http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/badblockhowto.html
[18:36] <nameless`> where can i add a script to be launched after recovering from sleep ?
[18:38] <raven_> how to check links for installed packages - "jackd installed" - "jackd not isntalled yet"
[18:39] <Aszurom> so I'm trying to change my cursor in 11.04 running in "classic" not unity mode.  The main cursor arrow just refuses to change, although the status versions of it did
[18:39] <Jordan_U> raven_: What do you mean by "links"?
[18:40] <raven_> Jordan_U, what you type in to shell
[18:40] <Aszurom> why won't it respect my authori-tay!?
[18:40] <Jordan_U> raven_: Commands?
[18:40] <raven_> Jordan_U, yes
[18:40] <xangua> Aszurom: you mean in nautilus¿¿ nautilus -q
[18:41] <raven_> Jordan_U, /usr/bin/jackd: symbol lookup error: /usr/bin/jackd: undefined symbol: clock_source
[18:41] <Jordan_U> raven_: "apt-cache policy packagename" (please do *not* copy and paste the output of that command into the channel).
[18:41] <Solved> I have a .deb file which I'm trying to install, although when I click on it I get the error "error: dependency is not satisfiable: debhelper (>= 5.0)"
[18:41] <Aszurom> Xangua, yes. I'm running whatever the default window manager is when you're in non-unity mode
[18:41] <Aszurom> I think this is nautilus
[18:42] <BarkingFish> Solved, what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[18:42] <Solved> 10.04
[18:42] <glebihan> Solved, what are you trying to install ? On which version of ubuntu ?
[18:42] <Jordan_U> raven_: Have you been installing software without using apt-get / software center / other package manager front ends?
[18:42] <raven_> Jordan_U, "installed: 0"
[18:42] <Solved> glebihan: A driver which allows my wifi antannea to work
[18:42] <operator1> I'm using ubuntu(pyrobot) full install on an older machine. On poweroff/reboot, the audio defaults to a muted status and I have need to reset volume on bootup. Any advice or point to script to run after successful login. Not my computer, but a friend and knows nothing about alsamixer or any way to set sound in linux box. Please Help.
[18:42] <raven_> Jordan_U, yes i compiled it by hand and want to return to distri-native-packages
[18:43] <mattmurray28> hey guys, i just loaded ubuntu live cd into my computer, and it come up with a command prompt saying busybox v1.17.1 built in shell
[18:43] <mattmurray28> and expects me to type something
[18:43] <mattmurray28> what can i do to stop this please?
[18:43] <theadmin> mattmurray28: Sounds like it can't boot
[18:43] <Aszurom> oh weird, and it does have the correct cursor when I'm interacting with an adobe air application
[18:43] <xangua> Aszurom: nautilus -q
[18:43] <xangua> as i've told you
[18:44] <mattmurray28> so theadmin, what can i do about it?
[18:44] <Jordan_U> raven_: This is why compiling from source rather than using something properly packaged is to be avoided. If you still have the source directory then enter it and "sudo make uninstall".
[18:44] <Aszurom> xangua, run that at command line? Didn't seem to produce any output or effect
[18:44] <glebihan> Solved, what does "sudo apt-get install debhelper" say ?
[18:44] <raven_> Jordan_U, no i have not.....
[18:44] <theadmin> mattmurray28: Pretty much nothing, just hope for the developers to fix it in the future/add support for your hardware. Try other distributions in the meantime
[18:45] <false> Alright, I've google'd it. Empathy won't connect to MSN for me. Removing telepathy-butterfly like most have doesn't work for me. Actually makes it worse, gives me 'Network Error' instead of 'Disconnected -- No reason specified'
[18:45] <mattmurray28> i just tried again and it came up with the ubuntu logo and loading
[18:45] <mattmurray28> so see what appends after
[18:45] <Jordan_U> raven_: Can you get the exact same source directory again, and do you remember exactly what options you used?
[18:45] <Aszurom> xangua, if you just want to restart nautilus, I've even rebooted the whole system and this persisted
[18:45] <xangua> false: why would remove the msn plugin supposed to fix it :S
[18:45] <raven_> Jordan_U, not sure....
[18:46] <xangua> Aszurom: bad luck then, sorry
[18:46] <mattmurray28> :( same thing again
[18:46] <mattmurray28> can not mount /dev/loop0 theadmin
[18:46] <false> xangua, That's the 'fix' I was finding on every forum post.
[18:47] <theadmin> mattmurray28: Ah, sounds like the disk wasn't recorded properly
[18:47] <mattmurray28> cool
[18:47] <mattmurray28> so i shall re-burn the image?
[18:47] <Aszurom> false, are you referring to nautilus -q?
[18:48] <Solved> glebihan: the computer which I'm trying to do it on does not have an internet connection right now
[18:48] <RedViper> Hi
[18:48] <false> Aszurom, i'm just trying to get empathy to connect to MSN.
[18:48] <RedViper> bye
[18:48] <Aszurom> oh, different animal then
[18:48] <raven_> Jordan_U, ok it worked i found the right files. tnx for helping
[18:48] <theadmin> mattmurray28: That'd be your best bet. Also, make sure you burn at a very low speed, and in DAO/SAO mode.
[18:48] <glebihan> Solved, then that's why you're getting this error, you'll need an internet connection in order to be able to install this package
[18:49] <awanti>  plz. any one can tell me about remote linus os installation (from diffrent location). Please don't mind i am very new to linux
[18:49] <Solved> glebihan: The .deb is acx100, and without it I can't get internet on the computer
[18:49] <Jordan_U> raven_: You're welcome.
[18:49] <mattmurray28> cool
[18:49] <mattmurray28> ty
[18:49] <Aszurom> xangua, check this out http://www.ubunturoot.com/2010/05/how-to-change-mouse-cursor-in-ubuntu.html
[18:49] <Aszurom> I think that's my deal there
[18:49] <Aszurom> compiz bug
[18:49] <glebihan> Solved, then you'll have to find a way to connect it through a wired connection, or use another computer to download the required packages
[18:50] <Solved> glebihan: What packages do I need other than the deb?
[18:50] <mattmurray28> theadmin , it does not give me the option to choose the speed or mode in windows image burner?
[18:50] <glebihan> Solved, every package it depends on (so at least debhelper)
[18:51] <theadmin> mattmurray28: Wait, wut? You burned using the built-in image burner in Windows?
[18:51] <mattmurray28> yes
[18:51] <theadmin> mattmurray28: Don't do that. Use imgburn or infrarecorder
[18:51] <mattmurray28> ok
[18:51] <theadmin> mattmurray28: Or any real disc burning tool, anyway
[18:51] <Solved> glebihan: Do you have a link by any chance?
[18:52] <glebihan> Solved, for debhelper ?
[18:52] <ubuntu_> Ive stumbled across a missing package in the repos: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/sdl-image1.2/libsdl-image1.2-dev_1.2.10-1_i386.deb  404  Not Found
[18:52] <n0kS> hi guys, I've forgot all my passwords... could I... I tried to passwd but it asks me current password (which I don't remember)
[18:52] <theadmin> ubuntu_: Do a "sudo apt-get update" and try again
[18:52] <mattmurray28> downloading imgburn now :)
[18:52] <ubuntu_> theadmin, I have
[18:52] <Solved> glebihan: yes
[18:53] <theadmin> n0kS: Boot into recovery mode. Drop to root shell. Do "passwd your_username".
[18:53] <glebihan> Solved, which architecture ? amd64 or i386 ?
[18:53] <n0kS> thanks
[18:53] <Shirakawasuna> ubuntu_: I just downloaded it
[18:53] <Kirior> i need some help
[18:53] <xangua> ubuntu_: then change your mirror to the main
[18:53] <Shirakawasuna> ubuntu_: your link works for me
[18:53] <xangua> software center-edit-sorftware sources ubuntu_
[18:54] <Guest90616> can someone help me create a wireless wpa2-psk?
[18:54] <xangua> mmm looks like you are are already using main ;)
[18:54] <ubuntu_> theadmin, Shirakawasuna xangua, thats weird, just 2 minutes ago it was failing
[18:54] <Solved> glebihan: 32 bit
[18:54] <Kirior> i was trying to install arch linux, at the end of installation process it installed GRUB bootloader, now i can only login to archlinux without option to log in on Ubuntu, how i can override this settings? or how can i make it dualboot?
[18:54] <theadmin> ubuntu_: lol well, happens I guess
[18:54] <glebihan> Solved, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39532209/debhelper_7.4.15ubuntu1_all.deb
[18:54] <mattmurray28> theadmin is 1x slow enough :P
[18:55] <mattmurray28> lol
[18:55] <xangua> Kirior: reinstalled grub¿
[18:55] <theadmin> mattmurray28: Sure is
[18:55] <JasonGriffee> what is a good bandwidth meter for ubuntu?
[18:55] <Kirior> xangua: how?
[18:55] <DER> need help
[18:55] <DER> using 9.04
[18:55] <DER> wanted to upgrade to 9.10
[18:56] <JasonGriffee> DER: just ask your question
[18:56] <xangua> !eol | DER
[18:56] <theadmin> DER: Sorry, 9.04 is EOL and no longer supported. You need to do a clean install, most likely.
[18:56] <Solved> glebihan: thanks, trying now
[18:56] <xangua> Kirior: or run upgrade grub ¿ mm i am not good with it :S
[18:56] <xangua> !grub
[18:57] <ErKaN> installed ubuntu 11.04 but however the login screen is seperated to two window, even if i manage login, it goes nowhere.. tried reinstall again its the same.. also tried wubi no difference.. any idea ?
[18:58] <Shirakawasuna> ErKaN: I don't know how to solve that issue in particular, but have you done an integrity check on your installation media?
[18:59] <Solved> glebihan: Same error as before when I try to install debhelper via gdebi
[19:00] <glebihan> Solved, cannot be the exact same error. Which does it say is missing ?
[19:00] <glebihan> which *package
[19:00] <glebihan> *
[19:00] <mattpat> Hey there, so I'm having some problems with shared libraries. I have shared libraries installed in /usr/local/lib, but whenever I try to use a program that dynamically links against them, I get: "libpicoLCD.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" (though it is indeed clearly installed in /usr/local/lib, and included in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/libc.conf)
[19:01] <Guest90616> WPA i need help setting up
[19:01] <mattpat> Wait a sec'. Never mind. Running ldconfig seems to have fixed the problem?
[19:02] <Tetsuo55> hello
[19:02] <glebihan> !pm > Moonlite342
[19:02] <kacper> elo
[19:02] <Solved> glebihan: error: dependancy is not satisfiable: dpkg-dev (>= 1.14.19)
[19:02] <Tetsuo55> what does this error mean DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.Failed: An operation is already pending
[19:02] <FoxtrotZero> Alright then, new problem. I need to find the exact location of a bad sector that I know exists, and then I need to force the drive to write to that sector, which i'm told will force the drive to 'fix' itself.
[19:02] <Total_Oblivion> i want to make a dual boot with w7 and ubuntu. but i want them installed on different HDD. What option do i choose in the installation screen? thanks
[19:02] <FoxtrotZero> Anyone know how I can do that, most likely from WinXP?
[19:02] <Solved> glebihan: with the acx file the only difference was that it was (>=  5.0)
[19:03] <glebihan> Solved, do you really have no way to connect that computer through a wired connection ?
[19:03] <glebihan> Solved, there may be quite a lot of dependencies...
[19:03] <Solved> glebihan: It would be really hard
[19:03] <Solved> glebihan: But if I do, it would take care of everything?
[19:03] <mattmurray28> theadmin, approx how long will it take in 1x :P
[19:03] <glebihan> Solved, yes, it should
[19:04] <Solved> glebihan: I don't even have to install debhelper
[19:04] <Solved> ?
[19:04] <theadmin> mattmurray28: 1x equals 150kb/sec
[19:04] <jarle> what is a good graphical tool to look at storage usage?
[19:04] <glebihan> Solved, yes you do, but if you are connected to the internet, all dependencies will be installed automatically
[19:04] <mattmurray28> cool
[19:05] <ThinkT510> FoxtrotZero: how is writing to a bad sector suddenly going to fix it?
[19:05] <Gentoo64> jarle, disk use analyzer i think comes built in
[19:05] <Solved> glebihan: with update manager?
[19:05] <glebihan> Solved, with gdebi
[19:05] <theadmin> mattmurray28: That makes about 79 minutes
[19:05] <Solved> glebihan: Oh, ok. Perfect. Thanks for all the help
[19:06] <jarle> Gentoo64: yeah, but not on KDE I think..
[19:06] <glebihan> Solved, you're welcome
[19:06] <Gentoo64> jarle, sorry i assumed you meant ubuntu
[19:06] <FoxtrotZero> ThinkT510: I'm not fully sure, i've been told that forcing "a write to the sector so it will remap it because it has no data it is just pending(read only error) to get the drive to remap it has to be written to".
[19:06] <Gentoo64> normal
[19:06] <alexxio> hey, hi! do you know a way to start an xserver on a remote machine? i disaled the autostart and now i need an xserver running on it...can you help?
[19:08] <malina> alexxio: it has to be enabled on the remote machine
[19:08] <malina> which you can alter (if it is not set through ssh for example)
[19:08] <ThinkT510> FoxtrotZero: the bad sector is on an ntfs partition isn't it?
[19:08] <FoxtrotZero> ThinkT510: Yes. Perhaps I should have mentioned that.
[19:09] <theadmin> FoxtrotZero: chkdsk
[19:09] <ThinkT510> FoxtrotZero: and you want to resize that to make room for another partition but gparted won't let you?
[19:09] <FoxtrotZero> theadmin: Won't chkdisk just add the sector to window's list of bad sectors? If it'll force a write to the sector, just tell me the command.
[19:10] <FoxtrotZero> ThinkT510: Yes, that is the case.
[19:10] <theadmin> FoxtrotZero: I think you can just do chkdsk /f Z:
[19:10] <ajb> alexxio, is there a display on the machine or you just want to start it up with out display?
[19:10] <theadmin> FoxtrotZero: Windows is supposed to fix problems on NTFS drives
[19:10] <FoxtrotZero> theadmin: i'll look up some documentation.
[19:10] <johwir> how du I get a plain text-mode console during boot. Remove plymouth* ?  (Ubuntu 10.04)
[19:10] <Tetsuo55> How do i reset the status of dvdrom drive??
[19:11] <Tetsuo55> it seems to be hung in a wierd statusd
[19:11] <Gentoo64> Tetsuo55, try rebooting
[19:11] <Tetsuo55> how can i make it work, so that i can easily and quickly switch between cd's?
[19:11] <Tetsuo55> ive got a 100 here that i need to check
[19:12] <Tetsuo55> and so far the drive failed after the 2nd disk
[19:12] <Gentoo64> Tetsuo55, you need to eject it, then put another cd in
[19:12] <Tetsuo55> so choose eject from the rightclick menu
[19:12] <Tetsuo55> >
[19:12] <Gentoo64> yes, or press the eject button
[19:12] <theadmin> Or just "eject" in the terminal.
[19:12] <Tetsuo55> using the eject button seems to confuse ubuntu
[19:13] <bastidrazor> johwir: in /etc/default/grub  add "text" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" then sudo update-grub
[19:13] <Tetsuo55> i really dont have to troubleshoot this today, ill get a windows client and do it there
[19:13] <Tetsuo55> thanks so far
[19:13] <FoxtrotZero> theadmin: Which flags do you want me to use? http://www.robvanderwoude.com/allhelpw2ksp4_en.php#CHKDSK
[19:13] <johwir> bastidrazor: Thanks. Will try that.
[19:14] <Jordan_U> FoxtrotZero: The guide I linked to tells you everything you should need to know.
[19:14] <theadmin> FoxtrotZero: Just /f for starters, if that fails, /r too
[19:14] <FoxtrotZero> Jordan_U: You're not the first one to link me to that guide. I'm sorry, I can't discern direction from it.
[19:16] <Jordan_U> FoxtrotZero: Run "sudo smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda" and pastebin the output (assuming that sda is the drive in question).
[19:16] <FoxtrotZero> Jordan_U: Is that a command for ubuntu terminal or windows command prompt, because i'm running Windows right now...
[19:17] <alexxio> ajb: there is a display
[19:17] <Jordan_U> FoxtrotZero: For Ubuntu. If you really want to continue working from Windows then we should move to ##windows.
[19:17] <theadmin> FoxtrotZero: sudo in windows? That's a dream :P
[19:17] <alexxio> i did export DISPLAY=:0.0 the startx from remote shell but doesnt seem to work
[19:18] <t3st0r> Ur@nyum
[19:18] <t3st0r> are u still there ?
[19:18] <FoxtrotZero> Jordan_U, I'm in both channels. I'm just getting help where I can now. I started here because this was originally my attempt to make a partition for installing ubuntu. Somewhere in the mess, that's still my goal.
[19:19] <widewake> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/sad/2602614754.html
[19:19] <theadmin> In the meantime *fixes tie* this is where I get off.
[19:20] <Jordan_U> FoxtrotZero: I can give you exact directions which I have tested myself recently for the same problem using Ubuntu. I can't say the same for Windows (though others possibly can).
[19:20] <FoxtrotZero> Jordan_U: Well I only just started to run CHKDSK C: /F. and if that doesn't work, we'll go to whatever you have in mind.
[19:21] <FoxtrotZero> Ah, i'm going to have to restart the system. BRB.
[19:23] <Kirior> i have managed to format partition with different distro but now i cannot access grub at all, i am trying to do something from ubuntu liveCD but not much luck, any helpfull ideas??
[19:26] <Adom> question about start-stop-daemon: i have a server running nicely using a screen session, if i want to use a server command, i reattach to the screen session, use the command, then detach. if i were to write a nice init.d script using start-stop-daemon, is it still possible to send commands to the daemon? how so? having hard time finding answer via google.
[19:27] <urlin2u> Kirior, so can you be more detailed on the grub portion and your intentions overall?
[19:29] <Kirior> sorry, i blindly following instruction i have printed earlier installed archlinux on my ext3 partition, at the end of the installation it installed a GRUB bootloader, i thought it will be dualboot, but it wasnt. i was stuck at archlinux without any GUI and network connection, got the live cd with ubuntu 11.04 on board and trying my luck from there
[19:29] <Kirior> but as i am very lost i have no idea what and how to do it
[19:29] <urlin2u> Kirior, I read back now you can install the grub2 loader putting u untu as the controlling boot, on the live cd which is which one in comparison to the ubuntu install?
[19:29] <Kirior> i am currently dowloading grub and installing it so hopefully it will solve my issue here
[19:30] <urlin2u> Kirior, there is a grub wiki that is quite helpful, what is the cd your on and what is the ubuntu install?
[19:31] <Guest95886> Can someone help me I'm trying set up WPA . I tried on my own and its failing
[19:31] <Guest68246> hi
[19:31] <anli__> Hello!
[19:31] <anli__> Can I create a smb user without mapping to a unix user?
[19:31] <Jordan_U> Kirior: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[19:31] <JohnFlux> Hey all
[19:31] <Kirior> on my ext2 i have functioning and my beloved ubuntu 11.04 and i have same 11.04 USB live cd starter
[19:31] <JohnFlux> How do I downgrade the bluez package to version 4.69 please?
[19:32] <Guest68246> i have a crunch sound whenn i scroll with my mouse and in / out of my sound card are connect (linked)? and i cant use or selected with jackd ??  HELP*
[19:32] <Kirior> Jordan_U: thx will do and follow this for now, will report in a minute
[19:32] <Jordan_U> Kirior: You're welcome.
[19:33] <urlin2u> Kirior, follow the link Jordan_U has posted that is what I was refrencing.
[19:33] <FoxtrotZero> Jordan_U: Ran CHKDSK successfully, it didn't mention anything about bad sectors that I noticed. You had something you wanted to attempt?
[19:33] <Kirior> urlin2u: thx to you as well, will do, if any doubts will ask the two of you
[19:33] <Jordan_U> FoxtrotZero: Yes. Can you boot back into an Ubuntu LiveCD?
[19:34] <FoxtrotZero> Jordan_U: Ugh, that means going without music. Yeah, one moment.
[19:35] <urlin2u> Kirior, cool I think you will get it done. :D
[19:35] <antonio_> juliet bijster da cruz
[19:38] <Kirior> ok it is not looking good, at this point sudo mount /dev/sdXX /mnt it says that special device (my path) does not exist, and by the sizes allocated to it i can see that it does :/
[19:39] <Jordan_U> Kirior: Please pastebin the exact output of "sudo blkid", the exact command you are running, and the exact error message.
[19:39] <alex-> Why does banshee keeps crashing?
[19:39] <urlin2u> Kirior, we often use a bootscript for help it may help you as well, and you can pastebin the RESULTS.txt for us if needed. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[19:39] <macer1> !details | alex-
[19:39] <Kirior> that will be difficult as i am running on two different machines, this for help and main one to fix it
[19:40] <alex-> macer1: when I listen music with Banshee on Ubuntu sometimes it suddenly dissapears
[19:40] <urlin2u> Kirior, the blkid asked for is in there as well.
[19:40] <alexxio> i want to run x11vnc but i have not an xserver running on it (maybe?) so it gives errors. i can only connect via ssh (i'm logged in now) do you know how to do it?
[19:40] <macer1> alex-: ubuntu version?
[19:40] <Jordan_U> Kirior: Can you connect the other machine to the internet?
[19:41] <alex-> 11.04
[19:41] <Kirior> let me try
[19:41] <alex-> macer1: 11.04
[19:41] <rapage> can a virus hide on the mbr of a usb drive?
[19:41] <alex-> rapage: yes
[19:42] <urlin2u> Jordan_U, I'm going for coffee, carry on I wasn't watching the channel traffic well enough to see everything is covered. :D
[19:42] <macer1> alex-: hmm...can you run banshee from console, wait until it crash and paste somewhere console output?
[19:42] <rapage> not saying a specific file but it's boot or file system sector
[19:42] <boobbb> hi please help me to find a solution
[19:42] <rapage> alex-,  do you have an example
[19:43] <boobbb> i have probably a conflict sound card
[19:43] <Guest95886> Can someone help me I'm trying set up WPA . I tried on my own and its failing
[19:44] <tw> My ubuntu partition got nuked and I managed to mostly restore from a backup. But now I can't get ecryptfs to mount my home directory, it fails with "open: Permission denied" when I run ecryptfs-mount-private
[19:44] <tw> Is there anything I can do or is my data gone?
[19:45] <guntbert> tw: did you properly record the passphrase when you were told by the installer to do that?
[19:45] <diki> I have a question
[19:45] <diki> In ubuntu 11.04 in system monitor
[19:46] <diki> where the priority column is
[19:46] <diki> why does it say 'Nice'?
[19:46] <diki> the column should say Priority or just Prio
[19:46] <diki> yet it says 'Nice'
[19:46] <diki> i find that a bit trollish
[19:46] <guntbert> !enter | diki
[19:47] <diki> guntbert:that is how i am ;)
[19:47] <diki> plus i never use punctuation :)
[19:47] <tw> guntbert: I tried that random string of letters and numbers I got before but it didn't appear to work.
[19:47] <Guest95886> Can someone help me I'm trying set up WPA . I tried on my own and its failing  SOMe one please
[19:47] <FoxtrotZero_> Jordan_U?
[19:48] <Jordan_U> diki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nice_(Unix)
[19:48] <tw> right now I've resorted to reading /usr/bin/ecryptfs-mount-private to see what it actually does in the hopes that I can unbreak whatever is erroring out.
[19:48] <FoxtrotZero> Jordan_U I'm in Ubuntu now...
[19:48] <alex-> macer1: i will try
[19:48] <NWH> Can anyone help reinstall xubuntu?
[19:48] <NWH> System is not working properly...
[19:49] <NWH> OS is not working properl*
[19:49] <Kirior> Jordan_U: so i managed to get to update-grub command from the guide you have given me and i have this error /usr/sbin/grub-probe: cannot stat 'dev/sda2'.
[19:49] <macer1> !details | NWH
[19:49] <guntbert> tw: please have a look at http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/04/introducing-ecryptfs-recover-private.html
[19:49] <Jordan_U> diki: I like the term because it makes it easy to remember that higher values will mean that the command will defer time more often to other processes (it will be "nicer" to them).
[19:49] <tw> guntbert: thanks, I will try that.
[19:50] <Jordan_U> FoxtrotZero: Please run "sudo smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda" (assuming that sda is the drive in question) and pastebin the output.
[19:51] <Jordan_U> Kirior: Can you pastebin the output of "mount"?
[19:52] <operator1> where is ubuntu's startup scripts
[19:52] <operator1> ?
[19:52] <FoxtrotZero> Jordan_U: "sudo: smartctl: command not found
[19:53] <Jordan_U> FoxtrotZero: sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[19:54] <Jordan_U> !upstart | operator1
[19:54] <Guest95886> I need help setting up a WPA in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[19:54] <ipv6jesus> I'm running ubuntu and windows on dualboot. I've noticed I'm getting different IP adresses on the separate OSs, although it's always the same IP adress for each OS. I'm on a wired network with DHCP enabled. I want the same IP adress as I'm getting on ubuntu for windows, any ideas on how to do this?
[19:54] <Guest95886> I need help setting up a WPA in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf its a WPA2 - PSK
[19:55] <FoxtrotZero> Jordan_U: "Please select the mail server configuration type that best meets your needs."
[19:55] <Jordan_U> FoxtrotZero: Select the default. This is temporary anyway.
[19:55] <tw> guntbert: That worked, thanks.
[19:56] <Kirior> Jordan_U: im back
[19:56] <AaronDCampbell> I'm having problems with printing to a network printer (Brother MFC-9440CN).  It detected it on the network and let me set it up but it won't print.
[19:57] <Jordan_U> Kirior: Can you pastebin the output of "mount"?
[19:57] <FoxtrotZero> Jordan_U: Firefox keeps crashing, does Ubuntu have an IRC client?
[19:57] <alex-> How can I make a 'Windows usb stick to install' with Ubuntu?
[19:57] <Layke> There is an entire wiki on the installer page
[19:57] <guntbert> tw: nice :)
[19:57] <auronandace> FoxtrotZero: xchat
[19:58] <ipv6jesus> join #internet
[19:58] <Jordan_U> FoxtrotZero: Yes, Pidgin comes by default but I would recommend either installing xchat "sudo apt-get install xchat" or try http://webchat.freenode.net rather than chatzilla.
[19:58] <alex-> Foxmaster: xchat
[19:58] <alex-> sorry rong person Foxmaster
[19:59] <alex-> wrong *
[19:59] <alex-> Layke: where?
[19:59] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | Kirior
[19:59] <FoxtrotZero> Jordan_U Am I connected?
[19:59] <Jordan_U> FoxtrotZero: Yes.
[20:00] <FoxtrotZero> Jordan_U There's no way for me to input to the question about mail servers...
[20:00] <Jordan_U> FoxtrotZero: What happens if you just hit Enter?
[20:00] <Kirior> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/692493/
[20:00] <FoxtrotZero> Jordan_U Nothing.
[20:01] <Layke> http://www.google.co.uk/search?gcx=w&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=install+ubunut+windows+usb+stick
[20:01] <KrashKing> having an issue with the 10.01 to 10.10 upgrade
[20:01] <Jordan_U> Kirior: Be carefull when following instructions that you type commands exactly or copy and paste them. You missed "/dev/ " in the command "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done".
[20:01] <FoxtrotZero_> Jordan_U What was the command to get XChat again?
[20:02] <KrashKing> grub config window gets stuck behind the upgrade/terminal window, can't move either
[20:02] <guntbert> !who | Layke
[20:02] <Jordan_U> FoxtrotZero_: "sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome" (to other helpers, I'm suggesting xchat-gnome as it's in main which makes it simpler to install from the liveCD environment).
[20:03] <waz> Hi
[20:03] <Layke> Jordan_U, https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee/issues/123 :)
[20:03] <Jordan_U> KrashKing: Can you provide a screenshot?
[20:04] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | KrashKing
[20:04] <KrashKing> don't know if it will work, gimme a sec
[20:04] <FoxtrotZero_> Jordan_U: E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) **new line** E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/
[20:05] <Jordan_U> FoxtrotZero_: Do you have Synaptic package manager, Software Center, or another package manager running?
[20:06] <Kirior> Jordan_U: i see, but now i have this http://paste.ubuntu.com/692502/
[20:06] <FoxtrotZero_> Jordan_U I don't know. I'm running it off the livedisk. I haven't opened anything but Firefox and Terminal.
[20:07] <Guest95886> I get Line 10: invalid key_mgmt 'WPA2-PSK'
[20:07] <AaronDCampbell> I'm having problems with printing to a network printer (Brother MFC-9440CN).  It detected it on the network and let me set it up but it won't print and it says "Stopped - Unable to locate printer".
[20:07] <Jordan_U> Kirior: You *NEED* to follow directions more carefully. So far your mistakes have had no negative consequences, but getting things wrong when messing with bootloaders can be bad. Please re-read the directions and see if you can figure out where you went wrong.
[20:07] <AaronDCampbell> Any idea what might be keeping it from pushing jobs to the printer?
[20:07] <KrashKing> Jordan_U: do I paste the prtscr to imagebin directly or to like gimp first'
[20:08] <soreau> Is there a way to easily create deb packages from source, for both 32 and 64 bit?
[20:09] <Kirior> Jordan_U: i see now, sorry i feel stupid :| i guess im just tired and skip stuff with my eyes, i will read twice or more from now on
[20:09] <Jordan_U> KrashKing: The printscreen window will allow you to save the screenshot to a file, which you can then upload to imagebin. GIMP is not needed unless you want to edit the screenshot for some reason first.
[20:09] <KrashKing> ok, next question, where is the file saved to?
[20:11] <Guest95886> How to set up WPA2 on your wireless network?'
[20:13] <Nova685> under wireless security on the router itself
[20:13] <DakatoTechnov> I am in need of an opinion.
[20:13] <Jordan_U> KrashKing: I think to the Desktop by default. It should tell you in the printscreen window.
[20:13] <xangua> !poll | DakatoTechnov
[20:14] <xangua> soreau: you mean checkinstall¿
[20:14] <sina2> how can i choose a password for a folder to enter in ubuntu ?
[20:14] <Kirior> Jordan_U: me again, for now it rebootet normally and now checks the drive for errors
[20:14] <Kirior> Jordan_U: thank you for your patience and help !!
[20:14] <Jordan_U> Kirior: You're welcome :)
[20:14] <soreau> xangua: not sure what that is
[20:15] <xangua> !checkinstall | soreau
[20:15] <DakatoTechnov> Well. I have an old Dell Latitude c600 laptop, P3 with 256 meg ram. I was wondering if there was a version of ubuntu that might actually work on it...
[20:15] <iceroot> DakatoTechnov: lubuntu
[20:15] <xangua> !lubuntu | DakatoTechnov
[20:15] <Kirior> Jordan_U: shall i now just in case format that other partition ?
[20:15] <DakatoTechnov> thank you!
[20:15] <SetiAmon> hey
[20:16] <benoliver999> Hey, I'm looking for a Windows Live Writer alternative. Any ideas?
[20:16] <benoliver999> Well, recommendations really...
[20:16] <iceroot> benoliver999: you mean a msn-client?
[20:16] <SetiAmon> I want to go back to ubuntu.i left when i upp'd to karmic from juanty and sound sounded like it was static/distorted
[20:17] <SetiAmon> is there a Way to fix the sound distortions/static with my X-FI card
[20:17] <sina2> how can i choose a password for a folder to enter in ubuntu ?
[20:17] <Alligad> hi
[20:17] <Alligad> how can i add a .ko file to modprobe?
[20:17] <Jordan_U> Kirior: What is the current state of the partition?
[20:18] <raven_> after upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 - ubuntu does not come up graphical any more. any solution?
[20:18] <benoliver999> iceroot: No sorry, blog posting software.
[20:18] <benoliver999> iceroot: Frankly, it probably works on wine, but I like to go native.
[20:19] <benoliver999> raven_: You can't get 11.04?
[20:19] <raven_> benoliver999, i do not want yet
[20:19] <tony_> BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaa
[20:19] <tony_> :|
[20:19] <tony_> bye bye
[20:19] <KrashKing> raven_: I'm having a similar issue
[20:21] <Kirior> Jordan_U: just booted, and partitions are ext2 with currently running 11.04 and ext3 which for a minute there was archlinux that messed all up, ext 3 is currently empty
[20:21] <Kirior> !pastebin
[20:21] <Alligad> can't insert '/lib/modules/test/quickcam.ko': invalid module format. <- what does that mean??
[20:22] <macer1> Alligad: show us dmesg | tail
[20:22] <terr> Alligad: prolly shouild be .so
[20:22] <raven_> after upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 - ubuntu does not come up graphical any more. any solution?
[20:22] <SetiAmon> Anyway to resolve playback issues with x-fi
[20:22] <Jordan_U> Kirior: Ideally, what partitin layout would you like to end up with?
[20:22] <Alligad> quickcam: version magic '2.6.21.7 mod_unload 486 ' should be '2.6.33.3-tinycore SMP mod_unload 486 '
[20:22] <kirior> !pastebin
[20:23] <Alligad> wrong kernel version?
[20:23] <Alligad> but i cant compile it myself because the driver always fails to compile
[20:23] <eoss> when u add a directory to ur PATH does it do recursion to find the program or is there a way to specify a folder and all folders contained within?
[20:24] <evelyette> hi
[20:24] <kirior> Jordan_U: http://imagebin.org/172987
[20:24] <evelyette> I did: apt-get dist-upgrade on ubuntu maverick ... but now the system won't boot
[20:24] <evelyette> what should I do ?
[20:24] <FoxtrotZero> Jordan_U: Okay, Firefox is being unreliable. What was the command you wanted me to run again? The first one?
[20:25] <Jordan_U> eoss: No recursive search is performed. If you want a directory and all its subdirectories added to $PATH you'll need to script that manually. What is your end goal?
[20:25] <evelyette> is there any command to reverse what I did ?
[20:25] <Alligad> hm
[20:25] <eoss> Jordan_U: well i have a folder in my home directory called src and i add anything i install manually to that folder
[20:25] <Alligad> is there a way to load modules compiled for a a little bit older kernel?
[20:25] <terr> evelyette: what happens?  tell us what the boot does
[20:25] <Guest95886> I need help setting up a WPA in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf its a WPA2 - PSK
[20:26] <eoss> Jordan_U: my end goal is just to be able to access programs from anywhere in my shell
[20:26] <Alligad> how can i remove the version check for insmod?
[20:26] <evelyette> terr, it doesn't display anything, just doesn't boot ... the safe mode boot works though
[20:26] <terr> evelyette: then you have likely misconfigured x
[20:26] <FoxtrotZero> Jordan_U: The command you wanted me to run?
[20:27] <evelyette> no I mean that it doesn't print anything in console
[20:27] <Jordan_U> eoss: Only a few subdirectories of your src directory are going to contain executables. Just add those directories to $PATH.
[20:27] <terr> evelyette: check that initrd is correct
[20:27] <Alligad> insmod [-fhkLmnpqrsSvVxXyYN] [-e persist_name] [-o module_name] [-O blob_name] [-P prefix] module [ symbol=value ... ]
[20:27] <Alligad> but insmod -f plaplapla says:
[20:27] <eoss> Jordan_U: everything i install in src creates its own folder so id have to add a new folder to PATH everytime i install something there
[20:27] <mongy> I dont suppose anyone knows a way to move a window thats being shrunk by the shelf compiz plugin?
[20:27] <Alligad> "-f" not a file or directory
[20:27] <Alligad> ?????
[20:28] <eoss> thought maybe i could type -R or something
[20:28] <Jordan_U> FoxtrotZero: Not sure what you mean by first. To install xchat-gnome you would run "sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome".
[20:28] <raven_> after upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 - ubuntu does not come up graphical any more. any solution?
[20:28] <earthshade> Just for
[20:28] <earthshade> Oops
[20:28] <Alligad> hm
[20:28] <FoxtrotZero> Jordan_U: No, the one that wasn't for Xchat.
[20:28] <Alligad> so man parameters are not trustable
[20:29] <earthshade> Just got my printer working with ubuntu 11
[20:29] <slugs123> join #programming
[20:29] <terr> raven_: try startx and look at the error codes in /etc/X11blah
[20:29] <earthshade> Soo pumped
[20:29] <Jordan_U> eoss: Normally you provide a --prefix argument to ./configure which will cause make install to install files that would normally go in /etc/ in $prefix/etc/ instead (and $prefix/bin/ , $prefix/usr/lib/ etc).
[20:30] <Jordan_U> FoxtrotZero: sudo smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda
[20:30] <raven_> terr, no screens found
[20:31] <terr> raven_: check the config file.
[20:31] <terr> raven_: could be the video isn't found... what does dmesg say?
[20:31] <FoxtrotZero> Jordan_U: Ah, right. "sudo: smartctl: command not found"
[20:31] <terr> raven check your old config verses the new
[20:32] <Jordan_U> FoxtrotZero: sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[20:32] <raven_> terr, tty7 hangs up at "starting timidity"
[20:32] <FoxtrotZero> Jordan_U, For the record, I have smartmontools installed on windows. If the commands are the same there, it might be easier...
[20:32] <terr> raven_: I don't knwo what that is.
[20:32] <strigoi66> anyone know how to setup wpa-supplicant with wpa2 on ubuntu server? Guest95886 need a little more info than what I can give.
[20:33] <terr> raven_: my system is very old.  Its just I run a custom X11 configuiration since I'm using multiple heads
[20:33] <Guest95886> thx
[20:33] <ErKaN> Jordan_U: i managed resizing the monitor, but im getting blank screen now.. ?
[20:33] <ErKaN> solution*
[20:35] <FoxtrotZero_> Jordan_U: That's done.
[20:35] <FoxtrotZero_> Jordan_U: Firefox crashed again, I need the first command again.
[20:35] <alex-> FoxtrotZero: install xchat
[20:36] <raven_> terr, ok deleting xorg.conf and dpkg reconfig seems to solve that problem
[20:36] <FoxtrotZero_> alex- I tried that, wouldn't work.
[20:36] <FoxtrotZero_> alex- something about it not being available
[20:36] <terr> raven_: you should have checked the old verses the new to see what changed
[20:36] <terr> raven_: but good that its working
[20:37] <alex-> huh
[20:37] <terr> raven I boot to a bash shell then run startx manually... but I reboot say once every couple years
[20:37] <alex-> FoxtrotZero_: open software center
[20:38] <terr> raven so I ahve to look up the stupid startx command!
[20:38] <FoxtrotZero_> alex- I'm running off of a CD. The less unnecessary things I have to do, the better.
[20:38] <alex-> Ah
[20:38] <FoxtrotZero_> Jordan_U: The first command again, please?
[20:38] <notverygoodatthi> hello, people, I'm trying to do some torrenting on ubuntu, and having the same problem on every client I use, can I get some help?
[20:38] <SetiAmon> is there a seperate help channel
[20:39] <SetiAmon> is there a way to fix the distortions/echoing/static with my X-FI on ubuntu?
[20:39] <BarkingFish> SetiAmon, what are you having problems with?
[20:40] <SetiAmon> Well out of the box I get sound but it is distorted like a off-station radiostation
[20:40] <jwrigley> !anybody | notverygoodatthi
[20:40] <SetiAmon> with little clicks and pops,echo thingy etc
[20:40] <SetiAmon> basically the sound is garbled with my x-fi
[20:40] <SetiAmon> with jaunty i used the opensource drivers and it always worked but after upgrading from it I can't use those drivers anymore.so i was wondering if this was fixable
[20:40] <Total_Oblivion> I'm having problem during installation. Specifically I can't sonfigure my partition on the eomthine else choice. thanks
[20:42] <notverygoodatthi> alright, well, I've gone through 3 clients (transmission, ktorrent, and deluge) and with all of them the trackers time out and/or my peers are listed as "choked" - ie not sending to me
[20:42] <paissad> guys, is there a solution to connect to freenode IRC chat when i only have authorization/access to port 80 ?
[20:42] <paissad> for example, if i'm  in a public network where only port 80 and eventually 443 are opened, i would like to use my IRC client and connect to freenode,
[20:42] <paissad> what is the solution ?
[20:42] <paissad> thanks in advance for helping
[20:42] <guntbert> paissad: use the webchat
[20:42] <terr> paissad: you can likely tunnel through 443
[20:42] <notverygoodatthi> I'm on a university network
[20:43] <Jordan_U> FoxtrotZero: sudo smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda
[20:43] <terr> paissad: your other option would be to set up a nat box at home and paroxy port 80
[20:43] <jwrigley> notverygoodatthi: you just answered your own question.
[20:43] <notverygoodatthi> but the thing is
[20:44] <anli__> resize2fs does not resize partitions, thats so strange
[20:44] <anli__> It just resizes file systems...
[20:44] <anli__> how can I possibly set the number of sectors right
[20:44] <terr> paissad: there might be a better solution of course but I don't know about it.
[20:44] <notverygoodatthi> when I was on windows the other day I was able to torrent something though
[20:45] <SlimG_> Does anyone know if Gobi 3000 UMTS (3G) modem works out-of-box with ubuntu?
[20:45] <notverygoodatthi> since then I crashed my windows laptop so I just have an ubuntu netbook for the moment
[20:45] <jwrigley> notverygoodatthi: able to send, or able to receive?
[20:46] <paissad> terr, you proposed my to set up a proxy in at home ?  with what rules ? knowing that freenode access port is 6667 IIRC
[20:46] <notverygoodatthi> I can't do either right now
[20:46] <o0splitpaw0o> !kvm
[20:46] <Guest95886> anyone know how to setup wpa-supplicant with wpa2 on ubuntu server?
[20:47] <terr> paissad: I run openBSD on the firewall and I'd put in a command to translate port 80 to port 6667 adn route it to freenode.
[20:47] <terr> paissad: paissad I've never done this in linux.  I know linux can do it.
[20:47] <jwrigley> notverygoodatthi: being able to send relies on your university network.. being able to receive relies on being able to send or the niceness of the "people" you wish to download from.
[20:47] <paissad> terr, i already have a web server running, ... it's not suitable i think
[20:48] <terr> paissad: yes actually it is because with openBSD at least you can nat from a specific subnet.  So you just firewall the whole stupid university from your webserver and hijack it for 6667
[20:48] <jwrigley> notverygoodatthi: so if it worked the other day most likely you were simply downloading from "nice" people
[20:48] <notverygoodatthi> yes but, most people are configured to automatically upload and download, and this is happening with three different torrents, all of which have plenty of seeders
[20:49] <terr> paissad: if you have an extra static IP you can hijack it.
[20:49] <javier__> how to format an external hard drive from ubuntu? I dont find the option in gparted
[20:50] <terr> paissad: look for a proxy server.  This is how they anonymise
[20:50] <notverygoodatthi> what do you mean by "nice"? how does that apply to a university network differently than at home?
[20:50] <Daghdha> Hi, i ran some updates earllier today and now my NAS just froze. I had to reset it. I am now in again, but am wondering what can i check to see for a possible cause? It happened while deleteing a file trough Samba share
[20:50] <paissad> terr, a proxy server which NAT from 80 to 6667 ?
[20:51] <Jordan_U> javier__: Select the device you want to partition in the menu at the top right.
[20:51] <paissad> good luck for me
[20:51] <terr> paissad: sure - its no harder than changing the IP.  They just rewrite the packet header
[20:51] <terr> paissad: a good firewall should be able to do this.
[20:52] <paissad> terr, i have basic skills about iptables ... but as i already said, i'm currently using the port 80 & 443 :/
[20:52] <terr> paissad: you need to rewrite both the IP and hte port number instead of jsut the IP
[20:53] <terr> paissad: yes... so what you do is set up a rule which rewrites only if the source address is your university
[20:53] <paissad> terr, yeah, why not, why not :)
[20:53] <terr> paissad: that shuts them down but who cares.  To block everything except prt 80 and 443 is pretty ignorant
[20:53] <jwrigley> notverygoodatthi: not sure exactly where it occurs, whether it is in the clients of the other users or at the tracker or a reaction to the general topology of the torrent-seed, but somewhere in the mix of that some peers will upload to you despite you not uploading.. it is generally a small percentage
[20:54] <terr> paissad: I have never looked at iptables.  But it should be able to do this.
[20:54] <paissad> terr, hmm, i'm going to take fun ... it's been lots of months since i did not played with iptables, .. but that's no trick
[20:54] <terr> paissad: now if you have a static IP for your webserver then you should have more than one available... I have like 8
[20:55] <notverygoodatthi> I'm almost certain I was uploading when I torrented on windows, I remember checking my ratio
[20:55] <terr> paissad: look into ssh tunnelling too
[20:55] <paissad> terr, how did you get 8 static IPs ? O_o ... my ISP delivered me only one which is i think completely normal
[20:56] <terr> paissad: I have a business account.. Costs me 480 per month tho!  Just a rip off!
[20:56] <terr> paissad: I have a business account.. Costs me $80 per month tho!  Just a rip off!
[20:56] <jwrigley> notverygoodatthi: are they the same torrents?
[20:56] <paissad> terr, indeed :)
[20:56] <terr> paissad: I run quite a nimber of websites tho and email for a few 100 ppl
[20:56] <otaylor> anyone know how to join the html and css page?
[20:57] <rapage> does anyone knows something
[20:57] <rapage> are all screens from laptops lcd
[20:57] <jwrigley> rapage: yes, plasma screens are to power hogging
[20:57] <notverygoodatthi> no, but they're all popular, well seeded torrents from the same site, and it seems unlikely that one would have so many people with that one setting on that it downloaded at a totally normal rate, while the ones I've downloaded to ubuntu have none-
[20:58] <terr> paissad: http://www.freeproxy.ca/
[20:58] <klafka_> so i'm having a hellacious time getting ubuntu to work on my macbook pro, it refused to install grub2 so i fiknished the install without it, can I try and install it again via rescue mode?
[20:58] <jwrigley> rapage: ... and CRTs are a bit heavy -- hardly portable
[20:58] <rapage> jwrigley, what about led screns
[20:59] <jwrigley> rapage: OLED screens are not LCDs. led screens are just ordinary LCDs with led backlights
[20:59] <terr> paissad: I don't know if they can translate the port number
[21:00] <rapage> for computers
[21:00] <paissad> terr, i'll see
[21:00] <rapage> or for tvs
[21:00] <jremydeaton> is there a channel dedicated to the terminal?
[21:00] <jwrigley> notverygoodatthi: how long time have you given the torrent clients to gather momentum?
[21:00] <Pici> jremydeaton: Theres #bash for scripting help.
[21:00] <notverygoodatthi> it's probably been a good 45 minutes on deluge now, and the other ones I probably gave at least an hour each, maybe more
[21:01] <jwrigley> rapage: no difference. a flat screen is a flat screen
[21:01] <rapage> I read that led screens have better performance
[21:02] <rapage> at ehow
[21:02] <jwrigley> notverygoodatthi: just keep at it, and reannounce often. That is your best bet.
[21:02] <terr> paissad: I'm thinking you should be able to easily write a deamon which can do it!  You basically need to open a socket and set up a pair of pipes which route through awk.
[21:03] <paissad> terr, not really a daemon though
[21:04] <jwrigley> rapage: led screens look more vivid, they have a greater contrast ration -- better blacks, better whites. ordinary lcd's are (if quality allows it) more colour accurate.
[21:04] <notverygoodatthi> okay. is there a way I can circumvent the block without using tor? A friend recommended that but I think torrenting on tor is frowned upon, hurts the network and such
[21:05] <terr> paissad: it would have to be a daemon.  I've written one but havn't looked at it for like over 10 years.
[21:05] <terr> paissad: thing is this is exactly what iptables does.  It rewrites the packet header and relays it.
[21:05] <Aang> How would I make a dual monitor wallpaper if I'm using TwinView?
[21:06] <paissad> terr, hmm ten years ago, i was touching a keyboard / mouse for the 1st time , hihi
[21:06] <terr> paissad: its also exactly what an amonuymizer does
[21:06] <terr> paissad: I set up my first webservers in 1997
[21:06] <jwrigley> rapage: *ratio
[21:06] <terr> paissad: they have been lit since
[21:06] <paissad> terr, :)
[21:07] <terr> paissad: but I hate digging into things like iptables bcause I find the documentation is so poor.
[21:08] <terr> paissad: we shouild be able to clean the mess up but for instance I found serious configuration errors in Debian when I installed the sound drivers adn fixed it and posted the corrections and 5 years later the documentation was still wrong and the configuration was still wrong too.  Its very frustrating and very unprofessional and we wonder why the world doesn't adopt linux faster... well that is the reason - or one of them.
[21:09] <klafka_> hey can anyone help me understand how to install grub2 from the rescue console for a macbook pro?
[21:09] <ThomasB2k> How can I change the default root authorization program (eg kdesudo to gksudo)?
[21:09] <ThomasB2k> I've messed something up and I keep getting a Qt-style authorization program in GNOME.
[21:09] <SetiAmon> so no one knows how to fix distortions/static sound problems(xfi)
[21:10] <paissad> terr, so that's one of the reason why you prefer openbsd ?
[21:10] <terr> SetiAmon: well teh debian people sure didn't.
[21:10] <jwrigley> klafka_: don't own a macbook, but surely it is the same as any other laptop
[21:10] <jwrigley> !grub2 | klafka_
[21:10] <tomodachi> jwrigley: klafka_ no its not , I havea macbook, there are some "peculiarities"
[21:10] <terr> paissad: I don't prefer openBSD.  Its light weight and clean so I use it on the webservers and firewall and on the desktop I use linux.
[21:11] <paissad> ok
[21:11] <SetiAmon> Hmm sucks so X-fi sound distortion is unfixable?
[21:11] <klafka_> jwrigley:  it's quite different because macs don't use BIOS
[21:11] <klafka_> they use EFI
[21:11] <terr> klafka_: what is efi?
[21:11] <tomodachi> klafka_: newer distributions support EFI. I boot my macbook pro 15" in efi mode
[21:11] <Jordan_U> klafka_: Please follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot exactly (do not modify the steps, they are correct for macs) and pastebin any error that results.
[21:12] <klafka_> tomodachi: did you use the 11.04 AMD64 image
[21:12] <tomodachi> klafka_: yes
[21:12] <tomodachi> klafka_: there is some documentation on the ubuntu wiki. find your model and read up there
[21:12] <Jordan_U> klafka_: It's recommended to use Apple's BIOS implementation as many current linux graphics drivers do not function properly without BIOS hooks.
[21:13] <terr> paissad: I'mm heading off... good luck and let me know what you find... I'm going to see if I can find a workable machine in my garage... prolly have a dozen or more
[21:13] <paissad> terr, ok ;) thanks anyway
[21:13] <terr> paissad: iptables should just do it.
[21:14] <vandor> hey, I can't reach to use my wlan on my laptop (fujitsu amilo L7320GW)
[21:14] <vandor> it tryes to connect, but doesn't do it
[21:15] <klafka_> Jordan_U: I was reading that, does that mean you must use bootcamp?
[21:15] <klafka_> I'm confused as to when you know if apple's hybrid mbr is installed
[21:15] <vandor> connecting wlan does freeze my laptop too
[21:15] <vandor> 11.04 classic ubuntu
[21:15] <Jasonn> Hi, I want to know how to set per user, or per folder hard drive limits
[21:16] <BarkingFish> vandor, Is your wireless built into the laptop, or on a USB device?
[21:16] <vandor> built into
[21:16] <vandor> intergrated
[21:16] <Jordan_U> klafka_: No. I explicitly recommend *not* using boot camp if you don't use Windows as it creates a Hybrid mbr which will only cause problems and complications and is not needed for Ubuntu.
[21:16] <BarkingFish> ok, can you open a terminal and type lspci | grep wireless  please, vandor
[21:16] <strigoi66> jasonn you could probably accomplish with quota
[21:17] <Jasonn> strigoi66: I am using ubuntu server :3
[21:17] <strigoi66> jasonn try http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntugeek.com%2Fhow-to-setup-disk-quotas-in-ubuntu.html&rct=j&q=quota%20for%20ubuntu%20server&ei=4F92TtyhI4WTtwfbvK3YDA&usg=AFQjCNF1Tq-np-ctsZUEeDxjp2gC8lOG1w&sig2=Rx_tBu17w2CifH6Db9hALA&cad=rja
[21:18] <Jasonn> strigoi66: thanks :D
[21:18] <BarkingFish> vandor, don't paste the results here, if you would please, put them on http://paste.ubuntu.com - and print the resulting URL in here please :)
[21:18] <vandor> BarkingFish, ok
[21:18] <BarkingFish> thank you
[21:18] <SetiAmon> I'm back on the LIVE cd version of 11.4 i figur i can resolve things better being inside and asking
[21:19] <jwrigley> strigoi66: why would you paste that ugly link instead of just http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-setup-disk-quotas-in-ubuntu.html
[21:19] <strigoi66> Jasonn: np
[21:19] <strigoi66> sorry dude just pasted without looking really
[21:19] <united_> I love windows, it's sooooooooo awesome
[21:19] <klafka_> ok good I used disk utility to create teh partitions
[21:19] <united_> it's free, open source, it has a huge community
[21:19] <jwrigley> united_: lol
[21:20] <klafka_> however, when i try and run grub-install /dev/sdb3 it just says cannot stat '/dev/sdb3'
[21:20] <klafka_> however that was the partition I created
[21:20] <Jordan_U> klafka_: You aren't following the directions. Follow the directions exactly and carefully.
[21:20] <SetiAmon> ugh even volume control keeps crashing
[21:20] <rapage> jwrigley, thanks
[21:21] <vandor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/692551/
[21:21] <vandor> BarkingFish, http://paste.ubuntu.com/692551/
[21:21] <klafka_> i'm using the ubuntu alternate cd, chose language, location and keyboard layout
[21:21] <anth0ny> Normally, when you create a folder in the Home folder called a specific key name (ex. Music) it automatically gets assigned a specific folder icon.  Anyone know where that control file is and if it's editable?
[21:21] <vandor> btw, i can use internet on my laptop by my phone & usb cable 3G
[21:21] <klafka_> i selected the partition which had my root partition on it
[21:21] <Jordan_U> klafka_: Do you have a regular LiveCD you can use?
[21:21] <jwrigley> klafka_: you don't do grub-install on a partition.. you do grub-install on a harddrive.
[21:21] <klafka_> then in the hash i typed grub-install /dev/sdb3
[21:22] <BarkingFish> vandor, thank you for the paste, I'm looking it over. With you shortly :)
[21:22] <Jordan_U> klafka_: Never install grub's boot sector to a partition. Always to the mbr.
[21:22] <vandor> if possible answer me private
[21:22] <Hayden> coucou par ici
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> !fr| Hayden
[21:23] <BarkingFish> vandor, normally we do all tech support in the public channel, if that's ok for you.  It's so that if someone makes a mistake, others can correct them, or we can all help together :)
[21:23] <BarkingFish> I hope you don't mind.
[21:23] <jwrigley> ubottu: keep it in English! (lol)
[21:23] <vandor> and ethernet by cable works too
[21:23] <vandor> BarkingFish, yeh its ok
[21:24] <BarkingFish> thanks Vanadis
[21:24] <klafka_> i'll give that a try Jordan_U last time i tried to run it though it just froze
[21:24] <vandor> there is just so many quit, left and joins
[21:24] <BarkingFish> oops - sorry, that was for vandor :)
[21:24] <Jordan_U> klafka_: Froze where?
[21:24] <vandor> i have to edit my irssi settings
[21:24] <klafka_> when i tried to enter livecd
[21:25] <Polah> How can I set up Evolution to check my Windows Live Junk folders, or other folders apart from Inbox
[21:25] <SetiAmon> how do you restart audio in ubuntu ? my audio crashed(haven't used linux since jaunty
[21:26] <SetiAmon> whats the command for restarting audio in linux
[21:27] <BarkingFish> vandor: Can you tell me from your terminal, how does your wifi appear in iwconfig please? wlan0 or ath0?
[21:27] <benoliver999> SetiAmon try sudo restart pulseaudio
[21:27] <jwrigley> vandor: /ignore #ubuntu JOINS PARTS QUITS
[21:27] <Jordan_U> klafka_: Use this iso (on an actual CD, not USB): http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/release/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[21:27] <ErKaN> new 11.04 installed, any solution for blank login screen ?
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> !details| ErKaN
[21:28] <Polah> SetiAmon: sudo service pulseaudio restart
[21:28] <benoliver999> SetiAmon: What Polah said.
[21:28] <zykotick9> i bet "sudo service pulseaudio restart" fails with a per-user message
[21:29] <SetiAmon> per user preconfigured
[21:29] <SetiAmon> yes it did
[21:29] <SetiAmon> i'm using the live cd,i am just trying to get audio to work.it starts out the box distorted etc,then it crashed
[21:29] <ErKaN> MonkeyDust: what else details ie? i just installed 11.04 when trying login there is only blank page without login window or anything else ?
[21:30] <jwrigley> ErKaN: page? are you on the web? what colour is the screen? do you see the mouse, any keyboard cursor?
[21:32] <ErKaN> jwrigley: no, i mean the login screen(page).. its just blank, hmm kinda mouse at top only.. i get sound by trying keyboard tho
[21:32] <jwrigley> ErKaN: can you move the mouse?
[21:32] <ErKaN> no
[21:33] <ErKaN> there is nothing i can do at all with the blank page
[21:33] <BarkingFish> ErKaN, is this first time it's happened?
[21:33] <jwrigley> ErKaN: does the mouse look like an underscore?
[21:33] <ErKaN> BarkingFish: i just installed the system, so yep
[21:34] <BarkingFish> what dm are you using?
[21:34] <united_> Erkan: I'm interested to see if this can be fix because the same problem happened to me, when I was trying out 11.04
[21:34] <jwrigley> ErKaN: what happens if you click ctrl+alt+F2
[21:35] <ErKaN> i tried ctrl+alt+f5 (goes blank) and f7 got me back to the blank screen..
[21:35] <ErKaN> goes black* tho
[21:35] <vandor> BarkingFish, http://paste.ubuntu.com/692562/
[21:35] <BarkingFish> So you don't get a login screen on the TTY?
[21:35] <BarkingFish> ^^ErKaN
[21:36] <phpgus> where does the Sound preferences GUI get the list of hardware Profiles from? (Analog Surround 4.0, etc) ?
[21:37] <ErKaN> well i get it BarkingFish, but the login window, just a blank screen, actually it sounds like its hidden at background because when i try keyboard i get the sounds
[21:37] <OerHeks> ErKaN, do you have a Nvidia GPU ?
[21:38] <ErKaN> OerHeks: sorry not sure of Nvidia GPU?
[21:38] <BarkingFish> ErKaN, I mean if you try to switch to TTY1, do you get a login screen there?  If so, login as your normal user, and type sudo service gdm restart - see if restarting the DM resolves it.
[21:38] <simsaladim> hi all, im searching for a menuentry applying to natty-alternate-iso to boot with grub2 from usb-flashdrive
[21:38] <jwrigley> ErKaN: you describe it very blankly, surely you can describe the difference between Ctrl+alt+F5 and ctrl+alt+F7 in greater detail
[21:39] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[21:39] <Polah> How can I clean up packages that have been uninstalled via remove instead of purge?
[21:39] <BarkingFish> vandor, I suspect this could be a firmware problem with your wifi driver, or maybe you haven't got a driver assigned to the device.
[21:39] <jwrigley> Polah: just purge them
[21:40] <strigoi66> Polah: try apt-get autoremove also
[21:40] <vandor> ok
[21:40] <vandor> hmm
[21:40] <jwrigley> strigoi66: Polah: remember --purge
[21:40] <united_> apt-get autoremove windows
[21:40] <united_> :P
[21:41] <strigoi66> ok
[21:41] <Polah> jwrigley: Nope. dpkg -l still lists them with rc, which I believe means they're removed but still have configuration files present
[21:41] <jwrigley> united_: lol, if autoremove worked properly, you wouldn't need to specify windows :P
[21:42] <united_> jwrigley: very true :)
[21:42] <jwrigley> Polah: did you do apt-get purge pkg-name
[21:42] <Polah> jwrigley: Yes
[21:42] <jwrigley> Polah: do you have aptitude installed?
[21:42] <Polah> jwrigley: Yes I do
[21:43] <uros> hello
[21:44] <jwrigley> Polah: then try aptitude instead. either aptitude purge pkg-name or interactively using _ to mark for purge
[21:45] <Polah> jwrigley: It worked with aptitude. Thanks
[21:45] <jwrigley> Polah: pleasure :)
[21:46] <vandor> haha
[21:46] <vandor> i just had to press Fn + f2 and my wlan started to work
[21:46] <united_> to turn your wlan on
[21:46] <almoxarife> has ubuntu-tweak been an issue for anyone else in the last week? issue=no data shown for apps or sources
[21:47] <united_> I once somehow hit fn + f2 on accident and couldn't for the life of my figure out why wlan wouldn't work, it sucked!
[21:47] <qin> almoxarife: Ubuntu Tweak is not recommended
[21:48] <qin> united_, vandor: rfkill is handy for moments like this.
[21:48] <SetiAmon> belive it or not live cd crashed 5 times before it loaded successfully
[21:48] <Aquix> qin I don't use ubuntu-tweak but why not?
[21:48] <SetiAmon> now can anyone here tell me how to fix the audio?
[21:49] <SetiAmon> the sound is distortion/pops and echos.
[21:49] <almoxarife> qin: so what is the 'recommended' source for not so unusual ppa's one might want or need?
[21:49] <qin> Aquix: Badware, Poorware, or whatever name is.
[21:49] <united_> have you tried turning it off and on again /jk
[21:49] <SetiAmon> yep
[21:50] <BarkingFish> vandor, Pleased your wifi is working :)  Don't you have a separate button on your laptop for Radio On / Off?
[21:50] <BarkingFish> I thought most laptops had those
[21:50] <vandor> ye this is very old laptop
[21:50] <BarkingFish> ah, ok.  Glad you're sorted though.
[21:50] <BarkingFish> brb
[21:50] <qin> almoxarife: For most of suff in classic gnome you can use: gconf-editor
[21:50] <vandor> it has only 1.7ghz celeron M and 1gt ram
[21:51] <united_> vandor: that's not bad when you're running linux :)
[21:51] <vandor> :)
[21:51] <united_> vandor: I like using ubuntu minimal so you can only install the bare minimum of what you need
[21:52] <vandor> i have to buy new battery
[21:52] <vandor> it costs ~30e in ebay :)
[21:52] <almoxarife> qin: ???? I am not looking for ubuntu-tweak to make gconf changes, I use it for some of the ppa's it lists by default, such as xorg and virtualbox and flash-64,
[21:53] <STOOPIDSTUFF> someone help with installation?
[21:53] <vandor> its nice, becouse old one is 2200mAh and used, new one is 4400mAh so its like 2x :)
[21:53] <OerHeks> !ubuntutweak
[21:53] <qin> almoxarife: All PPA are listed on Launchpad, and easly findable via google, but it is up to you how to install them.
[21:54] <mordy> is anyone here using the apple magic trackpad with the synaptics driver, if so, does it function sanely?, and if the answer is yes, can you give me the output of synclient -l ?
[21:54] <SetiAmon> now all sound doesn't work
[21:54] <strigoi66> STOOPIDSTUFF: what do you need help with?
[21:54] <SetiAmon> first it plays it all distorted.after switchign aroudn the settings the sound just stoped working all together
[21:55] <SetiAmon> there must be a way to fix audio.
[21:56] <MonkeyDust> SetiAmon: in Terminal, type alsamixer, maybe you can change someting
[21:56] <MonkeyDust> h
[21:56] <almoxarife> SetiAmon: the sound was from a what? file? stream?
[21:56] <anth0ny> Anybody in here have much experience editing the ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs file to set Home folder icons?
[21:56] <SetiAmon> was demo sound OGG
[21:57] <SetiAmon> Gnome volume control crashed unexpectedly now i lost all sound
[21:57] <almoxarife> SetiAmon: that's not good :), what version of ubuntu?
[21:58] <Guest95886> anyone know how to setup wpa-supplicant with wpa2 on ubuntu server?
[21:58] <majorastro> i am looking for a drm removel softare
[21:58] <FishFace> 11.04 i386 boot cd. It almost boots ok, but the screen is scrambled. What options do I have so I can see the screen?
[21:58] <FishFace> I have used this CD before, so it is good.
[21:59] <majorastro> I AM LOOKING for drm removel software
[21:59] <jwrigley> Guest95886: you need to create a wpa_supplicant.conf file
[21:59] <jwrigley> Guest95886: see man wpa_supplicant.conf
[21:59] <th0r> majorastro: you won't find that kind of support here
[21:59] <Guest95886> jwrigley i've done that it and i need someone look over it
[22:00] <jwrigley> let's see it
[22:00] <majorastro> okay good
[22:00] <majorastro> i want to watch my dr who on my tv
[22:00] <majorastro> ok thanks
[22:00] <Guest95886> anyone know how to setup wpa-supplicant with wpa2 on ubuntu server? can anyone help look over my wpa_supplicant?
[22:02] <FishFace> Hold off on my last question.
[22:02] <jwrigley> Guest95886: let's see it
[22:03] <Guest95886> jwrigley http://paste.ubuntu.com/692574/
[22:04] <Guest95886> jwrigley its a WPA2 - PSK
[22:05] <phpgus> anyone know how to get ubuntu and apps to use a custom alsa device profile?
[22:05] <Guest95886> jwrigley so ?
[22:05] <united_> this is cool http://bellard.org/jslinux/
[22:05] <th0r> Guest95886: here are the notes I have on setting up wpa_supplicant.conf, near the bottom of the file....http://pastebin.com/tTLqmsAh. It doesn't look much like yours
[22:06] <th0r> Guest95886: I have never had much luck getting wpa to work, but you might want to give that a shot.
[22:07] <SirSpam> I'm trying to setup Samba to act as a print server. I have the printer installed and I can print to the printer on my server (Ubuntu Server 11.04). I also have the printer installed on my client computer (Windows 7), but every time I try to print something, it fails.
[22:07] <Insadesu> hello I need help.
[22:08] <Insadesu> when i close my laptop lid, and i open it. the screen lock appears and i input my password to log in again.
[22:08] <BarkingFish> !details|Insadesu
[22:08] <Insadesu> to unloack, basically.
[22:08] <BarkingFish> sorry, ignore that please :)
[22:08] <Insadesu> I'm running Ubuntu 10.10
[22:08] <Insadesu> When my mother opens the laptop lid (when im on school) she is unable to switch users..
[22:09] <iamsashka> Hello, please help me. How to learn on what port the program works
[22:09] <Insadesu> when I clicked on Switch User, it showed a black screen. and if i moved the mouse.. it took me back to the screen lock.
[22:09] <Insadesu> how do i make so it takes her to the user selection?
[22:09] <almoxarife> SirSpam: when you try to print on the win7 printer from ubuntu?
[22:10] <Insadesu> Hello?
[22:11] <th0r> Insadesu: there should be an option where you set up the computer to suspend on lid closure...something about lock computer on resume
[22:11] <Insadesu> th0r: ubuntu tweak can do it, i think.
[22:11] <jwrigley> Guest95886: key_mgmt should be WPA-PSK (no 2 )
[22:12] <tarvid> I created a virtual machine with testdrive but now I can't find it
[22:12] <th0r> Insadesu: I don't use gnome, in xfce it is in the xfce power manager under Extended - "lock screen when....."
[22:13] <Insadesu> th0r: oh, here it is.
[22:13] <Insadesu> Lock Screen on hibernate [X]
[22:13] <Insadesu> Lock Screen on suspend [X]
[22:14] <th0r> Insadesu: if you disable those, it won't take you mom to the login screen, it will resume from whereever you left off
[22:14] <Insadesu> lol
[22:15] <Parsind> 	great victory for the Internet today the pirate party is official in power in Germany !
[22:15] <Insadesu> well. i want the 'switch user' button to work, thats about it.
[22:15] <rufsketch1> Hello everyone
[22:15] <rufsketch1> I'm trying to compile something from source, but I get the following error
[22:15] <rufsketch1> [build/vdrift] Implicit dependency `/usr/lib/libGL.so' not found, needed by target `build/vdrift'.
[22:15] <rufsketch1> I installed libglew
[22:16] <rufsketch1> how do I get libGL.so?
[22:16] <iamsashka> how i can learn what port the program works?
[22:16] <th0r> rufsketch1: might be the libGL-dev package that is missing
[22:17] <Insadesu> th0r: i need someone with gnome...
[22:17] <Insadesu> th0r: although i believe you have knowledge of gnome, right?
[22:17] <th0r> Insadesu: nope....never liked it
[22:18] <united_> I have a question: you can edit the /etc/sudoers file and make it so when you type in a wrong password it gives you an insult, does anybody know how to edit the insults
[22:18] <Insadesu> th0r: I see..
[22:18] <jwrigley> need to reboot :(
[22:18] <SirSpam> almoxarife: No, the printer is connected to the Ubuntu computer. I can't print from Win7 to Ubuntu
[22:18] <Insadesu> th0r: says here: disable 'fast user switching' [ ]
[22:19] <Insadesu> th0r: i just don't get it. why won't none of the buttons work? except for 'unlock'.
[22:19] <th0r> Insadesu: if you have an Unlock button then the rest require sudo access....which you get by 'Unlocking'
[22:20] <Aquix> united_  make it shutdown instead ;p
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> Insadesu: if you can't unlock, you have to launch the appliciation with gksudo
[22:20] <united_> Aquix: I'm not sure how to do that yet :)
[22:20] <Insadesu> th0r: So how do I make it so the other buttons do not need 'sudo'? because on 11.04 this never happened. the buttons didn't need it.
[22:20] <Insadesu> MonkeyDust: I can unlock, the other buttons don't work that's the problem.
[22:20] <rufsketch1> th0r okay, that fixed that
[22:21] <rufsketch1> th0r now I have a new error
[22:21] <rufsketch1> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL
[22:21] <jwrigley> Guest95886: back
[22:21] <th0r> Insadesu: you are really asking the wrong person about gnome
[22:21] <MonkeyDust> Insadesu: look at the properties of the program launcher and add gksudo in front of the command
[22:21] <superlou> Howdy.  Does anyone know of a program that tells you what keyboard key is being pressed (trying to debug a remote control that shows up as keyboard device)?
[22:21] <th0r> rufsketch1: and you are asking the wrong person about compiling <smile>
[22:21] <jwrigley> or maybe it was one of you other Guests, i don't know the number anymore.
[22:22] <th0r> superlou: xev
[22:22] <jolynn> hey can anyone give me the first steps for setting up a graphics card?  I tried glxgears, it's just blank, no clue how ubuntu is supposed to use xorg.conf and such used to use gentoo
[22:22] <rufsketch1> th0r damn. Alright, thanks. Restating generally
[22:22] <Guest95886> jwrigley ya i'm back
[22:22] <rufsketch1> To anyone who can help: I'm trying to compile something, but am getting this error
[22:22] <rufsketch1> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL
[22:22] <superlou> th0r, that's it!  tanks.  for the life of me couldn't remember it
[22:22] <Guest95886> jwrigley it ran but not sure if its working when i debug it
[22:23] <th0r> superlou: I had to do a google on it about a week ago when *I* wanted it
[22:23] <Insadesu> MonkeyDust: program.. launcher? you lost me.
[22:23] <jwrigley> Guest95886: you can't check whether the connection is up?
[22:23] <MonkeyDust> Insadesu: the icon you click to launch the program
[22:23] <united_> http://blog.mypapit.net/2011/06/howto-sudo-display-funny-messages-ubuntu-linux.html
[22:23] <united_> hilarious!
[22:24] <Guest95886> jwrigley i'm running ubuntu server so i'm kinda new to the
[22:25] <Insadesu> MonkeyDust: What program?
[22:25] <Guest95886> jwrigley, getting Supplicant port status: Unauthorized
[22:25] <MonkeyDust> Insadesu: the program you are talking about
[22:25] <jwrigley> Guest95886: ping google.dk
[22:25] <Insadesu> MonkeyDust: there is no program i open. I'm talking about closing the lid, opening it up again and seeing the lock screen. all the buttons except for 'UNLOCK' do NOT work.
[22:26] <Guest95886> jwrigley  how i make wireless use wpa i set up?
[22:26] <rufsketch1> Okay, I guess that boils down to a different question
[22:26] <rufsketch1> I have the 270.41.06 nvidia driver installed
[22:26] <Guest95886> jwrigley, wpa_supplicant -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -B?
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> Insadesu: ok, missed that part
[22:26] <rufsketch1> what does that boil down to for installing nvidia-glx-###?
[22:27] <rufsketch1> 96, 173, 180, or 185?
[22:27] <jwrigley> Guest95886: oh, right. first make sure network-manager is not running: sudo stop service network-manager
[22:27] <jwrigley> Guest95886: and then... right exactly
[22:28] <Insadesu> MonkeyDust: So.. what now?
[22:28] <jwrigley> Guest95886: you've got it. That command doesn't work?
[22:30] <Guest95886> jwrigley how i make it run with my wpa2 i created
[22:31] <Guest95886> jwrigley it said :stop: Unknown job: service
[22:32] <jwrigley> Guest95886: where did you put your wpa2 configuration?
[22:32] <Polah> Should be sudo service network-manager stop, shouldn't it?
[22:32] <Guest95886> jwrigley inside /etc/
[22:33] <jwrigley> Polah: indeed you are right, or as I meant to write sudo stop network-manager
[22:34] <jwrigley> ^^ Guest95886
[22:34] <NoN>  hello
[22:34] <frusen> hi NoN
[22:35] <jwrigley> Guest95886: if you put your wpa2 configuration in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf then the command you posted before should setup the connection
[22:38] <Guest95886> jwrigley i'm unsure but this is what i got when i ran it http://paste.ubuntu.com/692598/
[22:40] <jwrigley> Guest95886: there shouldn't be a space between /etc/ and wpa_supplicant.conf
[22:40] <Guest95886> jwrigley just notice that' let me resend it
[22:41] <Korbit> With 3TB+ drives becoming more common is it planned for Ubuntu releases to enable GPT by default?
[22:42] <Guest95886> jwrigley http://paste.ubuntu.com/692600/
[22:42] <Guest95886> jwrigley, in the password in cfg do i put the password manually "xxx"
[22:42] <Guest95886> with quote
[22:44] <jwrigley> Guest95886: it looks like it is already "set up", did you run sudo stop network-manager ?
[22:44] <Guest95886> jwrigley it says stop: Unknown job: network-manger
[22:44] <thomad> how would i go about re installing everything to do with sound
[22:45] <thomad> my sound is working vary porly
[22:45] <jwrigley> Guest95886: try killall wpa_supplicant
[22:45] <Pici> !nickspam > neefa
[22:46] <Pici> lieyf: Please pick a nick and stick with it.
[22:46] <Guest95886> jwrigley,  that ran successful with the command  killall wpa_supplicant
[22:47] <jwrigley> Guest95886: meaning killall succeeded or wpa_supplicant succeeded?
[22:47] <united_> i'm hungry :(
[22:47] <united_> i need pizza
[22:47] <Guest95886> jwheare, the killall
[22:47] <united_> my rant!!!!!!!  I want netflix to work with linux, wtf!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:47] <jwrigley> united_: you speak my mind
[22:48] <Pici> !ot | united_
[22:48] <jwrigley> united_: ^^ about the pizza
[22:48] <Pici> united_: Also please mind your language here.
[22:48] <united_> sorry
[22:48] <Guest95886> jwrigley just double check this is with iwlist scan
[22:48] <Guest95886> jwrigley, http://paste.ubuntu.com/692602/
[22:49] <thomad> how do i reset the sound drivers and settings. including re-running auto detection?
[22:50] <BarkingFish> Guys, still helping ErKaN here - Can someone please tell me how to edit the bootloader at boot time, to change the resolution of the monitor when you boot please?
[22:51] <jwrigley> Guest95886: have you still got the paste with your wpa_supplicant.conf ? I lost the link when I rebooted before
[22:51] <BarkingFish> And also, how to make it permanent? ErKaN tells me that when his monitor is "smaller", i assume, lower resolution, he can login.
[22:52] <IamredBOT> Can somebody tell me what my quit message is?
[22:52] <IamredBOT> What was my quit message?
[22:52] <ErKaN> thats part not a quit
[22:53] <strigoi66> IamredBOT has left the room
[22:53] <Guest95886> jwrigley, sure here http://paste.ubuntu.com/692606/
[22:53] <Edward454> hello guys, im new to ubuntu and i really like it, but im having issues with some of my components can any one help?
[22:54] <BarkingFish> Sure, Edward454 - tell us which things aren't working, what's happening, and we'll see if we can sort them :)
[22:54] <Chotaz> Where can I the latest stable release of Oneiric?
[22:55] <jwrigley> Guest95886: the second underscore in your config doesn't look quite right
[22:55] <jwrigley> Guest95886: the rest looks fine
[22:55] <Edward454> well i own a hp laptop model hdx16 with a fingerprint reader, everything works fine on it, execp for the webcam the integrated mic and the fingerprint reader, i can live without the reader, but the webcam i need it
[22:55] <OerHeks> Chotaz, oneiric is not stable yet
[22:56] <jwrigley> Guest95886: when running wpa_supplicant don't use the -B option while we are debugging
[22:56] <rufsketch1> what's the best driver to use with an nvidia gt240
[22:56] <rufsketch1> ?
[22:56] <elk> howdydoo
[22:56] <rufsketch1> And by best, I mean in terms of functionality
[22:56] <Zen_Master> elk: hello
[22:56] <Guest95886> jwrigley,  what you mean secound underscore ?
[22:57] <OerHeks> rufsketch1, use the[current] in hardwaredrivers
[22:57] <elk> mmm this cli irc is most appealing :D
[22:57] <rufsketch1> OerHeks err, could you be more specific?
[22:57] <jwrigley> Guest95886: sorry you are right, it's meant to be a dash
[22:58] <Bundestrojaner> hello
[22:58] <jwrigley> Guest95886: the WPA-PSK doesn't say WPA-PSK
[22:58] <rufsketch1> OerHeks I currently have the 270.41.06 driver installed, but vdrift thinks I don't have an nvidia card at all. presumably because of this driver
[22:58] <Chotaz> OerHeks: I need to format my machine and since Oneiric is near, I wouldn't want to ahve to do a clean install in 2 3 weeks.
[22:58] <Bundestrojaner> i set up Kubuntu 11.04 on an old laptop, now neither lan nor w-lan is working
[22:58] <Guest95886> jwrigley, so what i use then 'wpa psk'?
[22:59] <jwrigley> Guest95886: in your paste you've written WPAâPSK in stead of WPA-PSK
[22:59] <jwrigley> Guest95886: it is meant to say key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
[22:59] <Chotaz> Was just wonderin if Oneiric's beta 1 was stable for everyday computing
[22:59] <Bundestrojaner> w-lan doesn't find any w-lans around, lan simply says "not connected"
[22:59] <Guest95886> jwrigley, oh yea
[23:00] <hdon-> hi all :) i am trying to configure evolution to connect to my IMAP server. whenever i send and receive mail,the progress bar simply doesn't move, and nothing happens at all! what should i do to diagnose my problem?
[23:00] <OerHeks> Chotaz, you can try it , but i wouldn't recconment it for production machine,
[23:01] <danny_> Hi, can anyone help me with a strange problem with a MacBook Pro?
[23:02] <OerHeks> Chotaz, wait for thursday 22nd for the beta 2, and for support join #Ubuntu+1
[23:02] <Bundestrojaner> i set up Kubuntu 11.04 on an old laptop, now neither lan nor w-lan is working
[23:02] <jwrigley> danny_: no idea.. why don't you ask us?
[23:02] <Bundestrojaner> what can i do?
[23:02] <danny_> My keyboard has been working just fine in 11.04 and then suddenly today it stopped working when I tried to enter my password at login
[23:03] <danny_> However this one that I have plugged into the USB works just fine
[23:03] <G00053> has fglrx dropped yet /
[23:04] <jwrigley> danny_: if you go to tty2 (press ctrl+alt+F2 on the keyboard that works) can you enter any text from the keyboard that didn't?
[23:04] <Edward454> hello guys, im new to ubuntu and i really like it, but im having issues with some of my components can any one help?
[23:04] <Edward454> well i own a hp laptop model hdx16 with a fingerprint reader, everything works fine on it, execp for the webcam the integrated mic and the fingerprint reader, i can live without the reader, but the webcam i need it
[23:04] <Guest95886> jwrigley, ***:be ssid='***' wpa_ie_len=0 rsn_ie_len=20 caps=0x11
[23:04] <Guest95886>    skip - no WPA/RSN proto match
[23:04] <danny_> No, I can't
[23:05] <xasp> Edward454: you may try to install the program 'cheese' and start it to test your webcam, it should be working on your laptop
[23:05] <wolter> is ~/.local/share/autostart used in ubuntu?
[23:06] <jwrigley> Guest95886: I am going to need a context with that
[23:06] <Edward454> will try that thankds
[23:08] <jwrigley> danny_: you can't change to tty2 or the broken keyboard still doesn't work
[23:08] <jwrigley> ?
[23:08] <terr> can someone do me a favour.  I have a ga-6vtxe MB rev 1.1 and its missing memory.  I went to the gigabyte website and unfortunately no information comes up... like the page is there but its blank for me.  I would like ot know what CPU might be on it... like I do not know the family even and I can't see the cpu w/o taking the fan off and that looks like a pain.  Next I need to know what memory it likes since someone took the memory.  I like
[23:08] <terr> some 133 and 100 drams here.
[23:08] <Bundestrojaner> i set up Kubuntu 11.04 on an old laptop, now neither lan nor w-lan is working
[23:08] <Bundestrojaner> what can i do?
[23:08] <danny_> jwrigley: The broken keyboard won't input anything in tty2, I can get in though
[23:08] <skull> can linux 11.04 use NTFS file system
[23:09] <Guest95886> i'm having a problem in ubuntu server http://pastebin.com/6tFuEF4i
[23:09] <Aquix> skull  it can read ntfs but I don't see a reason to use it - at all
[23:10] <skull> so do i use FAT32. can it write NTFS
[23:10] <jwrigley> danny_: sorry, then I don't know. I have been having a problem with my keyboard dying, but it always helps to change tty
[23:10] <q_> hello
[23:10] <Gentoo64> skull, do you want to store data on ubuntu to share with windows or somwthing?
[23:10] <phpgus> skull: FAT32 is a different file system from NTFS
[23:10] <skull> no i just want run linux on its own hdd
[23:11] <phpgus> a lot of external drives come preformatted with ntfs now
[23:11] <Gentoo64> skull, use ext4 then
[23:11] <Gentoo64> its the default
[23:11] <jwrigley> Guest95886: killall wpa_supplicant, then do as the instructed: delete those files manually that it is asking you to remove
[23:11] <skull> ok thanks
[23:11] <Gentoo64> skull, why are you talking about ntfs
[23:11] <kisuke> where are natty's NTP settings stored? google and help .ubuntu.com are being decidly unuseful.
[23:12] <skull> i was wondering what file system to use but i think its ext4 i need
[23:12] <Gentoo64> skull, yes ext4
[23:12] <godstar> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man5/ntpd.conf.5.html
[23:12] <Guest95886> jwrigley, i did this rm /var/run/wpa_supplicant/* works like a charm
[23:12] <phpgus> ext4 ftw
[23:13] <jwrigley> Guest95886: awesome! congratz
[23:13] <kisuke> phpgus: i hope you are on a UPS
[23:13] <dennister> hey folks, methinks I need some help with broken partition table
[23:13] <james296> what does it mean if I get a notification saying the Avahi service notices I have a .local domain or something like that and it says its not supported?
[23:14] <Gentoo64> kisuke, what fs do you use?
[23:14] <phpgus> kisuke: i am
[23:14] <dennister> I've never encountered one before, but not even ubuntu's livecd will load due to the partition table of sda being the problem
[23:14] <james296> I noticed Ive been getting that in alot of distros, and I should note that I recently got a wireless hub downstairs to pick up the signal of the router, does that have to do with anything?
[23:14] <kisuke> Gentoo64: as much
[23:14] <kisuke> Gentoo64: ext3, dont have to worry about lost data if i get his with a black/brownout
[23:15] <Gentoo64> ext4 is fine
[23:15] <Gentoo64> ive had power outages before
[23:15] <dennister> hey folks, methinks I need some help with broken partition table
[23:15] <Edward454> installed cheese but no image is detected
[23:15] <kisuke> Gentoo64: as have i, ext4 delayed write still makes me nervous though
[23:16] <Gentoo64> i like it
[23:16] <alkafoo> no filesystem is fullproof, the only way to be sure is to have a backup system including multiple physical devices
[23:17] <dennister> can anyone help with partition table problem?
[23:17] <kisuke> alkafoo: you mean no system/tool/device is proof against a significanly skillful fool.
[23:17] <alkafoo> dennister: not until you explain what the problem is
[23:17] <danny_> Hello, if anyone can help out with a problem with my MacBook Pro keyboard it would be appreciated
[23:17] <alkafoo> no I mean devices fail, if you only have one you lose
[23:17] <terr> can someone do me a favour.  I have a ga-6vtxe MB rev 1.1 and its missing memory.  I went to the gigabyte website and unfortunately no information comes up... like the page is there but its blank for me.  I would like ot know what CPU might be on it... like I do not know the family even and I can't see the cpu w/o taking the fan off and that looks like a pain.  Next I need to know what memory it likes since someone took the memory.
[23:17] <alkafoo> danny_: what problem?
[23:17] <Gentoo64> meh, skull just asked what fs for ubuntu. its ext4
[23:18] <danny_> The laptop keyboard has stopped working, it seems, out of the blue
[23:18] <danny_> However a USB keyboard works
[23:18] <danny_> just fine
[23:18] <alkafoo> terr: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[23:18] <Bundestrojaner> can nobody help me??
[23:18] <Bundestrojaner> i set up Kubuntu 11.04 on an old laptop, now neither lan nor w-lan is working
[23:18] <dennister> alkafoo: first problem: only grub prompt now the problem is a ubuntu livecd won't load, and knoppix livecd doesn't recognize hd
[23:18] <terr> I just found the memory.  Its kingston KVR133x64c2/256  256mb PC133 dimm cl2
[23:18] <alkafoo> danny_: is there a button on the laptop keyboard for _disabling_ the laptop keyboard?
[23:18] <terr> alkafoo: won't boot yet.  no memory in it.
[23:18] <dennister> so I think the partition table is toast
[23:19] <Gentoo64> dennister, gparted can recreate it
[23:19] <alkafoo> dennister: is that bad?
[23:19] <RandOmize> Does anyone know how to mount an sd card as a block device?   Disk Utility says its mounted at /dev/sdb/   and it is for sure at /media/3C12-895F/   But when I tell ubuntu to do something with /dev/sdb it tells me VBoxManage: error: Cannot open the raw disk '/dev/sdb': VERR_MEDIA_NOT_PRESENT
[23:19] <RandOmize> any ideas?
[23:19] <danny_> aklafoo: Nope, it works just fine in OS X and I can use it to get into Ubuntu while holding Alt/Option at startup
[23:19] <alkafoo> terr: ga-6vtxe?
[23:19] <kisuke> Bundestrojaner: pastbin the out put of lspci from a treminal please
[23:19] <kisuke> !pastebin > Bundestrojaner
[23:19] <dennister> Gentoo64: i tried getting info on hd with gparted, using knoppix, but knoppix didn't even see hd
[23:19] <Bundestrojaner> kisuke: both devices are recogniced
[23:19] <Gentoo64> dennister, does the bios see the drive?
[23:19] <Bundestrojaner> they are also listed in NetworkManager
[23:20] <Gentoo64> dennister, it should recognise it regardless
[23:20] <Gentoo64> of te partition table
[23:20] <terr> I also have a kingston KVR133x72RC3/256 which should bne registered ecc CL3.   never been used since I bought it.  What a waste.
[23:20] <Bundestrojaner> kisuke: lan says "not connected", wlan doesn't find w-lans
[23:20] <steveoh> hey guys natty came installed with empathy, but it doesn't seem like the ideal irc client. any recommendations?
[23:20] <qin> steveoh: irssi
[23:20] <Gentoo64> steveoh, i use xchat its fast and good
[23:20] <Gentoo64> and nice looking
[23:21] <terr> alkafoo: yes.  Gigabyte GA-6VTXE
[23:21] <steveoh> qin: can i just do apt-get install irssi
[23:21] <dennister> Gentoo64: I haven't checked the bios yet...'bout an hour ago ubuntu livecd worked, and I could access all partitions using the normal places file manager,
[23:21] <Gentoo64> dennister, check the bios. you could try resetting the cmos see if it sorts itself out
[23:21] <alkafoo> terr: and you want to know what processor is on it?
[23:21] <Polah> steveoh: Yes. Irssi is command-line based. Xchat is GUI. Although, there are many other IRC clients
[23:21] <alkafoo> terr: it could be a number
[23:21] <steveoh> i've heard of others using it i'll have to check it out
[23:22] <qin> steveoh: sudo apt-get install irssi irssi-scripts (to have some neat stuff)
[23:22] <alkafoo> steveoh: XChat and irssi are really the top dogs, and for good reason
[23:22] <terr> alkafoo: I'm most interested in the memory because if it boots then I'm set.  I'll know what CPU from the boot
[23:22] <qin> RandOmize: /dev/sdb1 ?
[23:22] <RandOmize> it says /dev/sdb
[23:22] <RandOmize> i can try it with the one
[23:22] <dennister> Gentoo64: but, problem is I tried to reinstall grub using this howto, and now nothing works, can't get even the grub boot, load ubuntu livecd, or anything...the howto is ...just a minute and hopefully i'll find it again
[23:22] <alkafoo> terr: didn't you just say you found what memory it uses?
[23:22] <terr> alkafoo: has 4 dimm slots and I don't know which to use.  No manual.
[23:23] <RandOmize> qin: it says the same error
[23:23] <terr> alkafoo: no I found what memory I happen to have lying around.
[23:23] <alkafoo> ah
[23:23] <Gentoo64> terr, how many sticks of ram have you got?
[23:23] <qin> RandOmize: "mount" to see mount points.
[23:24] <RandOmize> /dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro,commit=0)
[23:24] <RandOmize> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[23:24] <RandOmize> none on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[23:24] <RandOmize> fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
[23:24] <RandOmize> none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
[23:24] <FloodBot1> RandOmize: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:24] <RandOmize> none on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
[23:24] <RandOmize> none on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[23:24] <elk> quit
[23:24] <elk> quit
[23:24] <terr> Gentoo64: three in total.  each 256KB.  All kingston.  2 are KVR133x64C2/256 and the otehr is KVR133x72RC3/256 which is registered ECC
[23:24] <RandOmize> ok
[23:24] <terr> Gentoo64: can I put them all in?
[23:25] <RandOmize> i've got it, but i Can't paste it in
[23:25] <Gentoo64> terr, use the 2 closest to the psu connector (thats recommended) then put the other one next to the rest
[23:25] <RandOmize> what should I tell you
[23:25] <terr> Gentoo64: okay.
[23:25] <terr> Gentoo64: let me go try it.
[23:25] <Gentoo64> terr, you could use all 3 and it might work well, but its not recommended to mix different types of ram
[23:25] <Gentoo64> although on a very old comp i had i did and it worked fine for years
[23:25] <alkafoo> terr: http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=GA-6VTXE&Cat=RAM
[23:26] <Edward454> hey guys
[23:26] <terr> Gentoo64: it would run at the LCD.  IE no ECC.  But 512 will be fine for now.  Do you know how to set the board for PC 100 vs PC133?
[23:26] <Edward454> one question
[23:26] <Edward454> i installed cheese and it shows a black screen however when i take a pic it shows the pic correctly, what does that mean?
[23:27] <Gentoo64> terr, in the bios. all bios are different layout but itll be retty obvious
[23:27] <dennister> Gentoo64: I'd love to reset the cmos, but this is my son's old laptop i'm trying to fix, and I'm not good on laptops
[23:27] <alkafoo> Edward454: cheese or your graphics driver/etc. are confused
[23:27] <Eearslya> Is there any way to set a rule to force a program to always be on a certain workspace?
[23:27] <terr> Gentoo64: gotcha.  Let me go try it.  Maybe success!  Even has a CD in it and two removable drive bays.  HUGE sukker.
[23:27] <Gentoo64> dennister, ah ok. i dont know anything about laptops tbh. did the drive show up?
[23:27] <dennister> Gentoo64: did I destroy the partition table by following this howto?'http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[23:27] <coz_> Eearslya,  you can use compiz for that
[23:28] <Edward454> well its also showing my video card its not installed correctly i think?
[23:28] <terr> Gentoo64: like has a 1.4gHzPIII... hopefully tualatin...
[23:28] <dennister> Gentoo64: i don't think the drive showed up at all
[23:28] <Eearslya> coz_: How?
[23:28] <shakaponk> maaan, i'm totally fucked up, trying to switch language from german to english on ubuntu 10.04. tried the whole f*ckin google. can anyone tell me how to do it properly???
[23:28] <coz_> Eearslya,  make sure you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed first
[23:28] <Gentoo64> dennister, if it didnt show up its th bios not the table
[23:28] <Eearslya> coz_: I do.
[23:28] <Gentoo64> dennister, loooook for a way to reset cmos, i have no idea about laptops
[23:28] <RandOmize> hey qin qhat can i tell you from this
[23:29] <RandOmize> i don't see the sd card, but maybe i'm missing it
[23:29] <dennister> Gentoo64: not on knoppix anyway...when ubuntu livecd was trying to load - unsuccessfully - it showed errors in block 0, 1, 2, and 3
[23:29] <coz_> Eearslya,  ok open that and go to the Window management category and click on the "Place windows" plugin and the second tab "Fixed window placement"
[23:29] <RandOmize> /dev/sdc1 on /media/3C12-895F type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush)
[23:29] <RandOmize> found it
[23:29] <RandOmize> thanks
[23:29] <Gentoo64> dennister, when trying to install from livecd?
[23:29] <dennister> does anyone know what errors in sector 0, blocks o, 1, 2, 3 mean?
[23:30] <dennister> Gentoo64: yes, when i tried to load the livecd, not install from it
[23:30] <Gentoo64> dennister, livecd should work even without a hdd
[23:30] <Gentoo64> maybe its ram
[23:30] <Eearslya> coz_: Ah, thanks!
[23:30] <Gentoo64> try memtest
[23:30] <coz_> Eearslya,  there you will see,,, windows with fixed positionis...windows with fixed placement mode..and window with fixed viewport
[23:30] <Gentoo64> dennister, actually dont its probably not that
[23:30] <Gnome232fanonly> are there any distros that are keeping gnome 2?????
[23:31] <Gentoo64> Gnome232fanonly, mint afaik
[23:31] <dennister> Gentoo64: that's what I thought; a bad partition on hd shouldn't effect livecd
[23:31] <diki> can you guys tell me what OS should i use for a production server?
[23:31] <Gnome232fanonly> i hate mint
[23:31] <dennister> Gentoo64: it certainly didn't effect knoppix
[23:31] <Gentoo64> Gnome232fanonly, not many. gnome 3 is the future and gnome 2 will die one day
[23:31] <coz_> Gnome232fanonly,  mint linux has gnome 2 right now and there are a few forked projects trying to keep gnome2 alive
[23:31] <Gentoo64> dennister, im really not sure :s
[23:31] <Guest95886> jwrigley, i got blacklisted by my wireless router
[23:31] <Edward454> i have the nvidia accelerated drivers version 173 but it says its not in use
[23:31] <Gnome232fanonly> who are the forks?
[23:31] <dennister> Gentoo64: thx for trying...be back later
[23:31] <Edward454> why if its installed?
[23:32] <Gentoo64> Edward454, i think its that cosmetic bug
[23:32] <coz_> Gnome232fanonly,  off hand I dont remember their names ,, I hate to say t his,, but just google   gnome2 forks
[23:32] <Gnome232fanonly> ok
[23:32] <Edward454> sorry gent whats that cosmetic bug ?
[23:32] <Gentoo64> Gnome232fanonly, it will probably be easier to use xfce its the most gnome 2 like out of them all
[23:33] <coz_> Gnome232fanonly,  although  ubuntu 11.10 will have gnome 3 available and its not bad especially if you like to use compiz
[23:33] <Gentoo64> Edward454, there was / still is a bug where it says driversn ot in use, yet they are
[23:33] <Gnome232fanonly> yeah or i can use ubuntu 10.10
[23:33] <Gentoo64> Gnome232fanonly, ubuntu 10.04 would prob be the best choice
[23:33] <coz_> Gnome232fanonly,  right until ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[23:33] <Gentoo64> as its got gnome 2 and supported longer
[23:33] <Edward454> ok thanks gentoo
[23:33] <danny_> Can anyone help with a dead MBP5,5 keyboard using Natty?
[23:34] <diki> can you guys tell me what OS should i use for a production server?
[23:34] <diki> I can install any OS i want
[23:34] <Gentoo64> diki, its up to you...
[23:34] <xasp> Edward454: i would  try switch/install another nvidia driver
[23:34] <Gnome232fanonly> Gentoo64: how long can i use it? i want to use it forever
[23:34] <diki> Gentoo64:it might be
[23:34] <Gentoo64> diki, you want security? speed?
[23:34] <diki> but i've never had any site up
[23:34] <Polah> diki: Something lightweight and flexible for what you want to use it for.
[23:34] <alkafoo> diki: Debian stable
[23:34] <Edward454> hey lol! my webcam started to work out of the blue !
[23:34] <Gentoo64> Gnome232fanonly, you can use it forever, but it wont be updated forever
[23:34] <Edward454> i just recorded a video and bam it works
[23:34] <alkafoo> Edward454: yay
[23:34] <Edward454> yay!
[23:34] <diki> well something that can work on 1GB ram and apache,mysql and php altogether
[23:35] <Gnome232fanonly> well i dont need the lateist apps
[23:35] <Gentoo64> diki, any os can
[23:35] <Gentoo64> tbh
[23:35] <xasp> Edward454: nice :)
[23:35] <Gentoo64> Gnome232fanonly, use ubuntu 10.04 then
[23:35] <diki> right, but i've never really used a unix based OS
[23:35] <diki> so i cant really know
[23:35] <alkafoo> diki: but I know =)
[23:35] <diki> just a VM really
[23:35] <Gnome232fanonly> btw how long do backports last?
[23:35] <Gentoo64> diki, if you want easy try ubuntu or debian
[23:37] <BrandonBolton> Hello all, is there a way to install a different language pack on Libreoffice? Well, language pack for spell check?
[23:39] <alkafoo> BrandonBolton: undoubtedly; probably want to ask #libreoffice
[23:39] <Gnome232fanonly> if i use 10.10 and it gets no support can i still get apps for it? old software works like new stuff for me.
[23:40] <diki> basically,  atm the server must handle at least 200 inserts per second in a table in mysql
[23:40] <Gentoo64> Gnome232fanonly, with ppas i think
[23:41] <Gentoo64> Gnome232fanonly, i think apart from that you might find it a pain. you might as well switch to another de you like and have the support for it
[23:41] <BrandonBolton> alkafoo, Okay I will, thank you.
[23:41] <Gnome232fanonly> so like in ubuntu 8.x cant download old stuff?
[23:41] <Gentoo64> no idea about 8
[23:42] <alkafoo> Gnome232fanonly: 8.04 is supported until 2013
[23:42] <alkafoo> Gnome232fanonly: erm, the server version, sorry
[23:42] <shakaponk> maaan, i'm totally fucked up, trying to switch language from german to english on ubuntu 10.04. tried the whole f*ckin google. can anyone tell me how to do it properly???
[23:42] <alkafoo> which would only include important packages, not desktop apps
[23:43] <alkafoo> shakaponk: ask #ubuntu-de ?
[23:43] <Gnome232fanonly> what if it goes out of support then what happins?
[23:43] <Gentoo64> then you die
[23:43] <shakaponk> alkafoo: ah, alright, will check it out, thx
[23:43] <alkafoo> Gnome232fanonly: then it won't be supported by Canonical
[23:43] <alkafoo> Gnome232fanonly: and you'll probably want to update to a version that is
[23:43] <Gnome232fanonly> still get old software?
[23:43] <alkafoo> eh?
[23:43] <Gentoo64> Gnome232fanonly, xfce can be set up to look pretty similar to gnome 2
[23:44] <Edward454> lol so now last thing and if this works then i will be a happy man and live a life of love and beauty if i can make my integrated mic to work.... any ideas how?
[23:44] <Gentoo64> plus you wont have the pain of having to let go of gnome 2 one day
[23:45] <Gnome232fanonly> no all im asking is if when i use old systems without updating can i still download software old i mean
[23:45] <dennister> Gentoo64: i plopped in systemrescuecd and it's what I feared: "invalid partition table" on sda, gparted is now started, and trying like heck to scan devices
[23:45] <alkafoo> Edward454: first check alsamixer and make sure it isn't just muted (hit TAB if you run out of things to check)
[23:46] <Gentoo64> dennister, hmm. wait for it. if the dev comes up. make a new partition table asap
[23:46] <Gentoo64> no idea whats going on with your drive
[23:46] <alkafoo> Gnome232fanonly: source code usually endures for virtually ever, but binary .deb's might start to disappear
[23:46] <alkafoo> Gnome232fanonly: be much more worth your time to simply update
[23:46] <Gnome232fanonly> from the repos?
[23:46] <dennister> Gentoo64: that's the plan...if it ever succeeds in finding a device
[23:47] <dennister> first thing on the agenda
[23:47] <Gentoo64> dennister, yep. if it doesnt, then im not sure what to suggest
[23:47] <Gentoo64> because theres not much you can do...
[23:47] <dennister> k...i'm gonna take a rest and hope...
[23:47] <Edward454> im falling in love with ubuntu
[23:47] <Edward454> just have to make that mic work
[23:47] <Odaym> easy
[23:48] <qin> Gnome232fanonly: There is no official repos for !eol versions, maybe some comutity mirrors.
[23:48] <Gnome232fanonly> alkafoo: the thing is i want gnome 2 dont want unity hate mint.
[23:49] <Polah> Gnome232fanonly, you can use GNOME3
[23:49] <Gnome232fanonly> hate it to
[23:49] <Polah> Gnome232fanonly, you aren't forced to use only Unity past 11.04.
[23:49] <Gnome232fanonly> what?
[23:49] <qin> Gnome232fanonly: Maybe /join #gnome for this rant.
[23:49] <Polah> Gnome232fanonly, well seeing as GNOME2 is no longer officially under development, you can depend on an unofficial fork or learn to like another environment.
[23:50] <alkafoo> Gnome232fanonly: you can make GNOME 3 work like GNOME 2
[23:50] <Gnome232fanonly> how long will that last
[23:50] <Edward454> yay!!! mic work!!
[23:50] <Edward454> yay yay and more yay!
[23:50] <alkafoo> Gnome232fanonly: if you want a DE that never changes, I suggest you switch to one with a commitment to not doing so
[23:50] <alkafoo> Edward454: unmuted something?
[23:51] <Edward454> yes :P
[23:51] <alkafoo> good times
[23:51] <Guest95886> jwrigley, did i succesully got it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/692640/
[23:51] <Gnome232fanonly> yes plz tell me a good one that never changes
[23:51] <Edward454> alkafoo last thing :P lol i swear... when i close the lid of my laptop and reopen it, the system is frozen and i have to do a hard restart
[23:51] <Edward454> whats with taht?
[23:52] <th0r> Gnome232fanonly: you might look at debian
[23:52] <Gnome232fanonly> they are going to gnome 3
[23:52] <Polah> Gnome232fanonly, everything is going to GNOME3. GNOME2 is no longer under development and will quickly become outdated.
[23:52] <Skeeter-> Can I resize an crypted partition?
[23:52] <alkafoo> Edward454: could be a number of things, but I'd suspect your graphics driver/kernel/combo or suspend config first
[23:53] <alkafoo> Skeeter-: course
[23:53] <jwrigley> Guest95886, nope: authentication timeout
[23:53] <Gnome232fanonly> did i ask that NO. i said tell me a good distro that does not change
[23:53] <Edward454> is tehre a way to repair that?
[23:53] <qin> Gnome232fanonly: centos
[23:53] <th0r> Gnome232fanonly: look at debian
[23:53] <Edward454> and honestly i understood about 10% of what you said
[23:53] <Guest95886> jwrigley i'm totally giving up
[23:53] <Skeeter-> alkafoo: i didnt find any tools on the website. Does it work like a normal resize withouth considering the crypto?
[23:53] <coz_> Gnome232fanonly,    http://k3rnel.net/2011/06/15/bluebubble-faq/
[23:53] <jwrigley> Guest95886: it might be your password
[23:53] <alkafoo> Skeeter-: does what?
[23:54] <jwrigley> Guest95886: in your config file your password must be base64 encrypted
[23:54] <Skeeter-> alkafoo: how can i resize
[23:54] <Gnome232fanonly> qin: i do like centos but i cant seem to get any apps installd
[23:54] <alkafoo> Skeeter-: resize what
[23:54] <jwrigley> do echo This-is-password |base64
[23:54] <coz_> Gnome232fanonly,    http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=19106
[23:54] <Josh__> hello
[23:54] <jwrigley> and paste the resulting string into your config file as PSK
[23:54] <alkafoo> hi Josh__
[23:55] <Gnome232fanonly> lol i was just looking at that link
[23:55] <Josh__> I am a huge noob and need some help
[23:55] <Edward454> aint we all?
[23:55] <alkafoo> Josh__: with what?
[23:55] <Josh__> lol
[23:55] <alkafoo> Edward454: no =P
[23:55] <Skeeter-> alkafoo: a crypted partition
[23:55] <alkafoo> Skeeter-: crypted by what, Ubuntu's installer?
[23:55] <Skeeter-> alkafoo: nvm
[23:55] <Edward454> lol no means there is no workadound or that we are not all noobs ?
[23:56] <Josh__> ok I just downloaded the newest version of ubuntu both the windows installer and the iso and neither will boot
[23:56] <jwrigley> Guest95886: see above I forgot to add your nick
[23:56] <alkafoo> Josh__: installers don't boot
[23:56] <alkafoo> Josh__: what did you do with the iso?
[23:56] <Edward454> alkafoo can i convo you ?
[23:56] <Josh__> I'm not that much of a noob
[23:56]  * alkafoo shrugs
[23:57] <joint> is this where I can get help for Microsoft?
[23:57] <jwrigley> Guest95886: you there?
[23:57] <Guest95886> jwrigley, i alredy double check is it the long #####
[23:57] <alkafoo> joint: not so much
[23:57] <Gnome232fanonly> my thing is with centos is how do i install apps in it?
[23:57] <Polah> Josh__: Did you burn it properly, or use the disk creator program the comes with it to create bootable USB?
[23:57] <alkafoo> Gnome232fanonly: ask #centos
[23:57] <Polah> Also this:
[23:57] <Josh__> I installed the windows installer to try it and when I re-boot and choose ubuntu at the boot screen I get an error hd0:0 ntsf5 wubibdr something....
[23:57] <Polah> !md5sum | Josh__
[23:57] <Gnome232fanonly> ok thanks for the help guys :) bb
[23:57] <alkafoo> Josh__: it's much saner to not use the 'windows installer' anyways
[23:58] <Josh__> I burned the iso to a cd and when I re-boot and boot from the cd it just shows the copy right info and nothing happens
[23:58] <linxeh> how can I boot 10.04 into single user mode?
[23:58] <Polah> Josh__: Do you intend to use your Ubuntu install a fair deal of the time? Wubi is just for trying it out, it's not recommended for proper, production installations
[23:58] <alkafoo> Josh__: what speed did you burn it at?
[23:58] <joint> i think the most of the people who try ubuntu for the first time try it with wubi
[23:58] <Josh__> I used windows iso burner. whatever the iso is set at
[23:58] <Guest95886> jwrigley, is it possible i can install a ubuntu or something light weight and config wireless and when i'm done i remove the guI/disable thelight weight on the ubuntu server?
[23:59] <Guest95886> jwrigley, i'm here
[23:59] <alkafoo> linxeh: IIRC you can append ' 1' to the end of the 'kernel' line in GRUB, from its menu (hit 'e')
[23:59] <alkafoo> Josh__: try burning at a slower speed, or use a USB stick (better idea)
[23:59] <Josh__> @Poluh well i'm trying to learn how to use linux.
[23:59] <linxeh> alkafoo: yeah, I tried adding " single" to the end of the kernel line, but it didnt appear to help. Ive got a machine here thats confusing the hell out of me, and its 1am already heh
[23:59] <joint> i would try burning at half the speed it burns at now
[23:59] <alkafoo> linxeh: what's confusing you?
[23:59] <BarkingFish> ErKaN, What the heck did you do to your monitor??? :)