| GridCube | good morning | 13:56 |
|---|---|---|
| charlie-tca | Good morning | 14:06 |
| charlie-tca | I will be running destkop tests today | 14:07 |
| GridCube | ok | 14:32 |
| GridCube | will do alternate test | 14:32 |
| GridCube | any particular test you want me to do charlie-tca ? | 15:16 |
| charlie-tca | all or as many as you can. | 15:17 |
| GridCube | doing free software whit encrypted /home then :D two for the price of one! | 15:17 |
| charlie-tca | I would like to get all the tests covered between yesterday and today | 15:17 |
| GridCube | oh! and i will also do autoresize in the same test! 3 for the price of 1! :D | 15:18 |
| GridCube | ooookay | 15:46 |
| GridCube | i figured out why yesterday shotdown happened, somehow power shutdown for just half a second | 15:47 |
| GridCube | in my whole house, and my nephew's | 15:48 |
| GridCube | so yeah | 15:50 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, that's usually enough here to throw my computers off | 15:51 |
| GridCube | yep | 15:51 |
| GridCube | restarting tests | 15:51 |
| charlie-tca | You running VirtualBox, right? | 15:52 |
| charlie-tca | WOW! new plymouth screens are amazing! | 15:52 |
| charlie-tca | They are working on my hardware too | 15:53 |
| GridCube | im getting an error while partitioning | 16:42 |
| charlie-tca | which image? | 16:43 |
| GridCube | alternate | 16:43 |
| charlie-tca | is that the convoluted test you are trying to make work? | 16:43 |
| GridCube | http://imagebin.org/172970 | 16:43 |
| GridCube | yes | 16:43 |
| GridCube | :P | 16:43 |
| GridCube | i should restart whit standard install? | 16:44 |
| charlie-tca | yeah, going to have to try each one and see if one thing causes it. might be the encrypted /home | 16:45 |
| charlie-tca | which requires /swap to encrypt too | 16:45 |
| GridCube | but anyway so far i just did, only free software, and auto rezise, the virtual disk already has 2 partitions of oneiric and swap | 16:45 |
| charlie-tca | doing an auto-resize leaves an unencrypted swap | 16:45 |
| GridCube | i never said to encrypt the disk to it | 16:45 |
| GridCube | :/ | 16:46 |
| charlie-tca | hm, I wonder if free software and encrypted home are compatible? | 16:46 |
| charlie-tca | the encrypted home may require non-free software | 16:46 |
| charlie-tca | How big is the virtual disk? | 16:47 |
| GridCube | 25gb | 16:48 |
| GridCube | it did it, it just took time | 16:48 |
| GridCube | :D | 16:48 |
| charlie-tca | so it is working now? | 16:49 |
| GridCube | yes | 16:51 |
| GridCube | :) | 16:51 |
| GridCube | i overreacted | 16:51 |
| charlie-tca | :) | 16:51 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, I do that sometimes... get tired of waiting :) | 16:51 |
| charlie-tca | Software Center crashes when you open it in Xubuntu | 17:20 |
| charlie-tca | and, we still don't have any header text when choosing "Install Xubuntu" from the desktop cd menu | 17:22 |
| charlie-tca | astraljava: bug 841365 appears to be fixed. The slider is between the shown partitions now. | 17:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 841365 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "No divider for space allocation in Xubuntu oneiric "alongside" installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/841365 | 17:27 |
| charlie-tca | (at least on 64bit hardware installs) | 17:27 |
| charlie-tca | It is very difficult to get the arrow to show up, but it can be done | 17:33 |
| GridCube | what arrow? | 17:34 |
| charlie-tca | When you hover the mouse between the existing and proposed partitions, it should change to an arrow, to allow resizing the partitions | 17:35 |
| charlie-tca | It has to be right on the divider, though | 17:35 |
| GridCube | oh, that sort of things happen a lot whit linux | 17:35 |
| charlie-tca | seems to be about a single pixel to hit | 17:35 |
| GridCube | yes | 17:35 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, OS of the young and steady hand | 17:36 |
| GridCube | that is, i get very frustrated all the time i want to resize a windows, my mouse aint very presize at that, :/ | 17:36 |
| charlie-tca | Which is why I keep going back to clearlooks themes, the scroll bar is wide enough for me to see and hit | 17:36 |
| GridCube | :P | 17:36 |
| charlie-tca | even the window edges are easier in clearlooks | 17:37 |
| charlie-tca | It must use two or three pixels for the target | 17:37 |
| GridCube | that sounds razonable | 17:38 |
| charlie-tca | So much easier than the 1 pixel target! | 17:39 |
| GridCube | indeed | 17:39 |
| GridCube | :D my lasagna is already in oven :D | 17:39 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: Excellent, I'll check myself later tonight. | 17:40 |
| charlie-tca | I just ate lunch here | 17:42 |
| GridCube | mmm detecto solo un sistema operati... lol xD | 17:57 |
| GridCube | it detected just one of the OS | 17:57 |
| GridCube | it should have 2 other installs of oneiric, lets see how it shows when it reboots | 17:57 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 17:58 |
| charlie-tca | They are all oneiric, it detects oneiric, but sees all installs of it | 17:58 |
| GridCube | yes | 17:58 |
| GridCube | 2 other installs on grub | 17:58 |
| GridCube | PINK | 17:59 |
| charlie-tca | must be 386 | 18:00 |
| GridCube | how to check free software? | 18:01 |
| GridCube | i don't seem to be missing anything, it looks like any other install | 18:01 |
| GridCube | same background, same theme (greybird), same programs | 18:01 |
| charlie-tca | GridCube: http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/AlternateFree start at step 25 | 18:03 |
| charlie-tca | That's the "how to " reference in the top of the spreadsheet ? | 18:04 |
| GridCube | well food time, will do later | 18:04 |
| charlie-tca | Okeydokey | 18:04 |
| micahg | umm...meeting tomorrow, right? | 18:18 |
| charlie-tca | right | 18:18 |
| charlie-tca | monday at 19:00 | 18:19 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #xubuntu-devel to: Xubuntu Development | Oneiric Ocelot Feature Freeze in effect | #xubuntu for support | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule | Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu | Xubuntu Community meeting 2011-09-19 at 19:00 UTC | Oneiric Ocelot images at http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ | ||
| charlie-tca | micahg: bluetooth no longer shows in the menu in Oneiric | 18:22 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: :( | 18:22 |
| charlie-tca | Is that because it doesn't detect any devices, or because we have to add blueman? | 18:22 |
| micahg | possibly because no devices are detected, let me upgrade my machine with bluetooth | 18:23 |
| charlie-tca | okay | 18:23 |
| GridCube|test | okay, so freesoftware failed | 18:54 |
| GridCube|test | www.pastebin.com/DSwwxwp4 | 18:58 |
| charlie-tca | no, they are still commented | 19:00 |
| GridCube | oh | 19:00 |
| GridCube | so it worked? | 19:00 |
| charlie-tca | dpkg -l linux-restricted-* | grep -vE "^[a-z]n|D|\||+++|===" | 19:01 |
| charlie-tca | returned an empty prompt, so it worked | 19:01 |
| GridCube | yes | 19:02 |
| GridCube | ok | 19:02 |
| GridCube | :) | 19:02 |
| GridCube | 3 tests done then :D | 19:02 |
| GridCube | free software, encrypted /home, autoresize | 19:03 |
| charlie-tca | if it uncomments multiverse or returns anything, it would be fail | 19:03 |
| GridCube | :) ok | 19:04 |
| charlie-tca | That's one of the hardest tests to check if it passes | 19:06 |
| Olbi | what tests you need help now? | 19:08 |
| charlie-tca | Olbi: can you do 64bit? | 19:09 |
| charlie-tca | Want to get the alternate 64 tests done if possible | 19:09 |
| Olbi | ok, so download now alternate CD | 19:09 |
| GridCube | oh there is no plymouth at boot | 19:09 |
| charlie-tca | not in VBox | 19:10 |
| GridCube | :( | 19:10 |
| charlie-tca | but there is on hardware :) | 19:11 |
| micahg | GridCube: charlie-tca: latest software center seems to have fixed bug 852835 | 20:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 852835 in software-center (Ubuntu) "software-center crashed with TypeError in _parse_menu_tag(): 'NoneType' object is not iterable" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852835 | 20:31 |
| charlie-tca | Has not fixed it on any install today | 20:31 |
| charlie-tca | even after updates, it still crashes | 20:32 |
| micahg | I just tried with software-center before and after 4.1.23.3, before I got a crash, after not | 20:32 |
| charlie-tca | What ever the one in updates is today, it crashed every install I did. I installed, ran updates, restarted, tried to run software center. | 20:33 |
| charlie-tca | all hardware installs | 20:33 |
| charlie-tca | Did they release a new version in the last two hours? | 20:34 |
| micahg | ah ,just got a crash when I tried a different piece of software | 20:34 |
| charlie-tca | It's been crashing here just trying to start it | 20:34 |
| micahg | this is a different one though (dbus) | 20:34 |
| micahg | oh, hmm, well, I have some gnome libs on this one, maybe it's missing a dependency | 20:35 |
| GridCube | mmhm | 20:35 |
| GridCube | its trying to run in gtk3 mode | 20:35 |
| micahg | shouldn't be a problem, we ship GTK3 | 20:37 |
| GridCube | oh well | 20:38 |
| * GridCube just helped on #xubuntu-es to an ipod user on xubuntu, install ifuse, mount whit gigolo, manage whit rythmbox | 20:39 | |
| charlie-tca | good job | 20:39 |
| charlie-tca | !cookie | GridCube | 20:39 |
| ubottu | GridCube: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! | 20:39 |
| GridCube | hehehe :D | 20:40 |
| Unit193 | !msg the bot | :P | 20:40 |
| ubottu | :P: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots. Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid". | 20:40 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: I still see the bluetooth menu under settings on machines w/and w/out bluetooth | 20:42 |
| GridCube | weird, i do not. | 20:43 |
| charlie-tca | I don't have it here on any installs done today, live session, and the the install I been using since alpha1 | 20:44 |
| charlie-tca | bluetooth is still installed/available, but it is not in the menus | 20:45 |
| GridCube | updating to 4.1.23.3 does not solve the software-center problem | 20:46 |
| * charlie-tca thinks this is micahg's day to be perturbed | 20:46 | |
| Olbi | :D | 20:47 |
| * micahg doesn't want to be perturbed today...will be a long week as it is | 20:47 | |
| charlie-tca | Sorry, sir | 20:47 |
| charlie-tca | wishing I could fix these things, though. | 20:48 |
| * charlie-tca knows sometimes wishing makes it happen, but it is so seldom! | 20:48 | |
| micahg | these are also systems that have been upgraded a few releases, so there might be left overs on them | 20:48 |
| charlie-tca | That is true | 20:48 |
| charlie-tca | I copy the existing system and upgrade each release, so I get a pretty new system every year | 20:49 |
| charlie-tca | I said that wrong | 20:49 |
| charlie-tca | When Oneiric releases, I will do a fresh install on a new partition, copy /home, then upgrade at alpha1 to P | 20:50 |
| Olbi | super, plymount work only when I shutdown system :P | 20:56 |
| GridCube | :D | 20:56 |
| GridCube | it does that! | 20:56 |
| GridCube | madnick work is excelent :) | 20:56 |
| Pjotr | Recently, a couple of important packages have been released again. This has already much improved the quality of the Dutch translations of Xubuntu 11.10 Oneiric, which is great! Thank you, developers! | 21:31 |
| Pjotr | However, the job isn't entirely done yet. Some important packages still have the bad old translation. | 21:31 |
| Pjotr | mr_pouit: Do you know which Xfce packages are still waiting to be released? | 21:32 |
| Pjotr | Another problem, not Xfce-related this time: lightdm. This is still 100 % English in Xubuntu 11.10. Upstream the translation has been finished by the Dutch Ubuntu translators: https://translations.launchpad.net/lightdm/ | 21:38 |
| Pjotr | It's an important package for localization, because it's very conspicuous. Is there any chance that the Dutch translation will be issued to Xubuntu 11.10? | 21:38 |
| micahg | Pjotr: you have to talk to the desktop team about that | 21:39 |
| Pjotr | micahg: concerning lightdm you mean? | 21:39 |
| micahg | Pjotr: yes | 21:40 |
| Pjotr | OK... Where can I reach them on IRC? | 21:40 |
| micahg | Pjotr: #ubuntu-desktop, robert_ancell should be coming online in a few hours | 21:40 |
| Pjotr | Thanks, I'll do that. :-) | 21:41 |
| Pjotr | Meanwhile, I hope that someone here can tell me the answer to my first question, concerning the Xfce packages... :P | 21:42 |
| Olbi | Polish translations is done for lightdm .... | 21:43 |
| micahg | Pjotr: I just pull in whatever Debian packages (assuming it's not going to break stuff) | 21:43 |
| mr_pouit | hey there | 21:44 |
| mr_pouit | Pjotr: I think xfce4-panel, thunar and xfwm4 are still waiting to be released (need more testing afaik) | 21:44 |
| Pjotr | mr_pouit: OK.... will they be in time for Xubuntu 11.10 final, you think? | 21:45 |
| micahg | final freeze is a week and a half (sep 29) | 21:46 |
| Pjotr | still some time left, then.... we'll see. :-) | 21:47 |
| Pjotr | I asked Nick about some Goodies as well, notably xfce4-power-manager | 21:48 |
| Pjotr | Do you know anything about that, or should I contact Nick? | 21:49 |
| === GridCube is now known as hashrate | ||
| === hashrate is now known as GridCube | ||
| GridCube | well im bored im gonna go do something | 22:36 |
| GridCube | good evening, and good night, and i will see you again, hopefully tomorrow for the meeting | 22:36 |
| GridCube | if not then in a few days XD | 22:36 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: bug 845549 Will not be fixed. robert_ancell has no idea how to make lightdm work without out, and the suggestion is we have to replace it instead of the way we are doing it now. | 23:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 845549 in lightdm (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Do not ship /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/845549 | 23:21 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: and when replacing it, do not lose any pre-set defaults or it will fail | 23:23 |
| charlie-tca | basically, it will be up to us to figure out how to actually make lightdm work our way. | 23:24 |
| charlie-tca | robert is open to suggestions and patches to make it actually work | 23:29 |
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