[07:44] <\sh> moins
[07:50] <\sh> anyone experienced that banshee is not loading under latest kde in oneiric?
[07:55] <valorie> hmm, have never used it
[07:55] <valorie> what happens when you start it from the console?
[07:55] <valorie> do you get error messages?
[07:58] <\sh> valorie, it throws X errors, but no apport jumps in...
[07:59] <\sh> valorie, well, actually it tells me that it throws X errors, but I don't see any...just the message
[08:02] <valorie> it might help to run it "banshee --debug"
[08:02] <valorie> without the quotes
[08:02] <valorie> are you running it from krunner, or Konsole/yakuake/
[08:03] <valorie> ?
[08:03] <valorie> possibly you didn't install the debugging package either
[08:03] <valorie> hard to say
[08:03] <\sh> konsole...
[08:04] <\sh> and yes..no debugging package...but it needs to be a kde problem, because on unity it works like a charm
[08:04] <valorie> oops, we're in -devel
[08:04] <valorie> this isn't a support channel
[08:05] <valorie> I can fire up my netbook and install banshee and try though
[08:05] <valorie> is there a bug filed yet?
[08:05] <valorie> and have you asked in #ubuntu+1 ?
[08:07] <valorie> netbook is slow booting, but on......
[08:11] <valorie> oh goodness, updates will take awhile
[08:37] <valorie> guh, loads of ubuntucrap comes with banshee
[08:38] <\sh> valorie, I didn't find one on LP...and #ubuntu is not my personal favorite for asking bug questions ;) 
[08:39] <valorie> not ubuntu -- ubuntu+1
[08:39] <valorie> which is for Oneiric only
[08:40] <valorie> restart is nearly done....
[08:40] <valorie> lil hamster peddling for her life
[08:42] <valorie> hmmm, failed to load canberra gtk module
[08:43] <valorie> and an sqlite error
[08:43] <valorie> yakuake has gone nuts, hard to read.....
[08:44] <valorie> !info conberra-gtk-module
[08:44] <valorie> !info conberra-gtk-module oneiric
[08:44] <\sh> !info libcanberra-gtk-module 
[08:45] <Riddell> freeflying: congratulations
[08:45] <freeflying> Riddell: thanks :)
[08:46] <valorie> in for a dime, in for a dollar
[08:46]  * valorie installed libcanberra
[08:46] <valorie> piffle, misspelled the query anyway
[08:47] <valorie> ubottu, you are supposed to read my mind!
[08:48] <valorie> interesting
[08:48] <valorie> the outline loads
[08:50] <valorie> \sh: if you file the bug, I'll comment on it
[08:52] <\sh> valorie, will do when I switch back to KDE...need to work on real life crap right now
[08:52] <valorie> http://paste.kde.org/123337/
[08:53] <valorie> I'm always around
[08:53] <\sh> Caught an exception - System.ApplicationException: No support GNOME Settings Daemon could be reached. (in `Banshee.MultimediaKeys') <- I think this is the bugger in general
[08:55] <valorie> lordy, I hope this isn't the systemsettings problem rearing its ugly head
[08:55] <valorie> because I have no clue if that has a solution GNOME devels are willing to solve
[08:55] <valorie> I never heard the outcome
[08:56] <\sh> when amarok wouldn't be crashing I would have never tested banshee under kde ,-)
[08:59] <valorie> amarok is crashing?
[09:00] <valorie> I haven't heard of that happening in a long time
[09:00] <valorie> please file bug reports, because that shouldn't happen
[09:00]  * valorie builds it from source
[09:01] <valorie> but I'll be testing the released version on that same netbook
[09:01] <valorie> tomorrow, maybe
[09:18] <CIA-130> [lp:~planet-ubuntu/config/main] Jonathan Kolberg * 1424 * config.ini Fixed my feed
[09:20] <afiestas> since network management guys are not making releases... I'm wondering what version is Kubuntu shipping?
[09:20] <afiestas> at solid sprint I'd like to fix that situation (the release thing) but right now the last release is for NM0.8
[10:26] <debfx> afiestas: we ship a snapshot of networkmangement from 2011-06-10
[10:28] <bulldog98> debfx: is it possible that rekonq droped code form contributers (should I remove them form copyright if they are gone at all?)
[10:29] <debfx> ScottK: which security issue isn't fixed in qt 4.7.4?
[10:30] <debfx> bulldog98: yes, if you are sure that the code has been removed
[10:30] <bulldog98> debfx: I’ve gone throug the licenccheck --verbose output and the were not present anymore
[10:32] <debfx> I'd grep the source to be sure
[10:32] <afiestas> debfx: quite old actually, there is a lot of movement int he 0.9 branch
[10:33] <afiestas> though it is working just fine here
[10:38] <bulldog98> they are gone debfx
[10:38] <bulldog98> btw should I try to get my packaging into Debian?
[10:40] <debfx> afiestas: it's a bit late to update it now
[10:40] <debfx> bulldog98: what are you packaging? the latest beta?
[10:41] <bulldog98> debfx: yes
[10:41] <afiestas> debfx: I don't mean for the release, but somewhere after
[10:43] <debfx> bulldog98: I usually don't upload rekonq betas to debian
[10:43] <bulldog98> debfx: so we should wait for final
[10:43] <bulldog98> but we can base upon the beta packaging
[10:43] <debfx> yep
[10:44] <bulldog98> since copyright nearly completly changed
[10:44] <bulldog98> lots of files were relicenced
[10:44]  * bulldog98 should create a diff and paste it
[10:46] <debfx> afiestas: we can upload it to a ppa for oneiric but it doesn't qualify for a stable release update
[10:47] <afiestas> I see, I will ask the NM team to check the version kubuntu is using and recommend possible backports
[10:47] <afiestas> only critical stuff
[10:48] <bulldog98> debfx: http://paste.kde.org/123355
[10:51] <debfx> bulldog98: hasn't dont_set_app_as_parent.diff been merged upstream?
[10:51] <bulldog98> debfx: it applyed with 6 out of 7 hunks
[10:51] <bulldog98> so one part was not applyed
[10:51] <debfx> afiestas: that would be great, bugfixes are of course always welcome :)
[10:52] <afiestas> for next cicle in theory, we will be releasing when NM does
[10:57] <debfx> bulldog98: the whole patch has been applied upstream: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=rekonq.git&a=commit&h=a957e857480a55b02e04ddff8e84b968462804f9
[10:57] <bulldog98> debfx: ok then I’ll drop it
[11:09] <bulldog98> debfx: diff cleaned up: http://paste.kde.org/123361
[11:12] <bulldog98> debfx: and upstream is about to fix some licensing issues (namly the different licenses of the tests)
[11:13] <bulldog98> and missing license for Messages.sh
[11:16] <bulldog98> ScottK: I packaged the latest rekonq beta
[11:16] <bulldog98> where to put it?
[11:17] <bulldog98> latest diff to debian packaging http://paste.kde.org/123367
[11:25] <ScottK> debfx: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=733119
[11:25] <ScottK> bulldog98: Not sure.  Are we switching to that?  At this point switching to a new upstream release seems risky.
[11:26] <bulldog98> should I push it to experimental, so we can test it?
[11:30] <ScottK> Sure.
[11:35] <bulldog98> ScottK: should I call for regression test?
[11:35] <debfx> ScottK: that patch doesn't apply at all to qt 4.7.4
[11:35] <debfx> and it has been committed a year ago
[11:35] <ScottK> debfx: OK.  Thanks for checking it.
[11:35] <ScottK> Sorry for the noise.
[11:36] <ScottK> bulldog98: AIUI we have reqkonq working with the major things it should work with, so try and see what it has that'd make it important to update this late in the release cycle.
[11:37] <bulldog98> ScottK: it fixed some problems with QtWebKit 2.2
[11:38] <debfx> can't we cherry-pick those fixes?
[11:39] <debfx> ScottK: so should I upload qt now or wait until after beta2?
[11:39] <bulldog98> debfx: I’ll have a look into that
[11:53] <allee> agateau: any news about .ui fixes for: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/851160
[11:53] <agateau> allee: I was gone when you came back :/
[11:56] <Tonio_> I'm a dad !!!!!!!!
[11:56] <Tonio_> couldn't contribute back the past months, cause I had to help Amélie....
[11:56] <Tonio_> new prorities, more important things....
[11:56] <allee> Tonio_: contrags!!!!!!!!!
[11:57] <Tonio_> http://temp.toniox.org/alais.jpg
[11:57] <Tonio_> my little girl
[11:57] <allee> cute
[11:57] <Tonio_> the photo is also on facebook for those who want to leave a comment :)
[11:57] <Tonio_> thanks allee  :)
[11:58] <bulldog98> debfx: there are lots of bug fixes in the beta, should I cherry pick all? I would end up cherry-picking around 20 patches
[12:00] <Quintasan> ScottK: ping
[12:01] <Quintasan> Riddell: Do you happen to have Canonical USA office telephone number? I have to supply one with my visa application :/
[12:01] <Quintasan> The webpage has only fax number
[12:03] <allee> agateau: as I'm not a UI gui, would be a waste of time to teach me designer.  Maybe best you do the 'simple' fix yourself.
[12:03] <apachelogger> Tonio_: congrats!
[12:03] <agateau> allee: ok
[12:04] <agateau> Tonio_: Congratulations! Welcome to a world where free time is a foreign word!
[12:05] <apachelogger> agateau: lol
[12:05] <Riddell> Quintasan: +1 781 761 9080
[12:05] <Quintasan> Riddell: Thanks
[12:05] <allee> agateau: don't frighten Tonio_ he'll realize soon enough :)
[12:05] <debfx> Tonio_: congrats! :)
[12:05] <agateau> Tonio_: he is gone too far already :)
[12:05] <agateau> allee: ^
[12:05] <debfx> bulldog98: no, only important bugfixes that are really reproducible on oneiric
[12:06] <bulldog98> debfx: so I need to test every single bug?
[12:06] <allee> he, he
[12:07] <rbelem> ScottK, ping
[12:07] <agateau> apachelogger: I have an untested layout fix for allee issue in ubiquity, can I send it to you?
[12:07] <Tonio_> hehe agateau , I know already :)
[12:07] <Tonio_> thanks everybody !
[12:07] <apachelogger> agateau: maco or Riddell
[12:08] <apachelogger> I cannot do stuff to ubiquity
[12:08] <agateau> apachelogger: ok
[12:09] <agateau> maco2: Riddell: anyone of you fancy testing a layout fix in Ubiquity? (bug 851160)
[12:09]  * agateau attaches the diff to the bug
[12:11] <bulldog98> debfx: would you consider kde bug #237732 important?
[12:12] <bulldog98> hm wishlist so no
[12:12] <rbelem> apachelogger, ScottK, do you think we can wait for active 1.0 release to push the role stach to the repos?
[12:12] <rbelem> or is it better to leave them all in a ppa?
[12:13] <bulldog98> kde bug #275155
[12:13] <rbelem> i'm sick of waiting and dont have nothing ready to use :-/
[12:14] <apachelogger> rbelem: I think Quintasan will gladly work with you on a solution
[12:14] <bulldog98> rbelem: pust that stuff to kubuntu-active
[12:14]  * apachelogger has no idea when 1.0 is due
[12:14] <bulldog98> apachelogger: october
[12:15] <rbelem> apachelogger, probably will be during final freeze
[12:16] <Quintasan> active this, active that
[12:16] <Quintasan> rbelem: Did you get runtime sorted while I had no internets?
[12:16] <rbelem> bulldog98, i will push the stuff today to the kubuntu-active ppa
[12:16] <rbelem> Quintasan, runtime will be merge to KDE/4.7 till october
[12:17] <Quintasan> urgh then what we did was useless?
[12:17] <rbelem> Quintasan, yup
[12:17] <Quintasan> :/
[12:17] <rbelem> Quintasan, that's why i did not spend more time on that
[12:17] <agateau> maco2: Riddell: actually I created a MR for the Ubiquity change: https://code.launchpad.net/~agateau/ubiquity/fix-keyboard-variant-combobox/+merge/76011
[12:17] <Quintasan> That feeling when it turns out you were spending time on nothing
[12:17] <debfx> bulldog98: yes, for example the second bug report says "This is a regression from 0.7.50" so that probably doesn't affect 0.7.0
[12:17] <apachelogger> rbelem: as I see it we either stick to the PPA and have no tablet image for 11.10 or we try to squeeze it into the archive soonish and get an image
[12:17] <Quintasan> VISA FORM Y U NO WORK
[12:18] <rbelem> Quintasan, i thought they would merge runtime these days but they just merged kdelibs
[12:19] <Quintasan> Have you belonged to, contributed to, or worked for any professional, social, or charitable organization? 
[12:19] <rbelem> apachelogger, do you think we sould keep working to get the dual building on kde-runtime?
[12:19] <Quintasan> Do I belong to any of these?
[12:19] <apachelogger> screw dual building
[12:20] <apachelogger> Quintasan: depends on the questions before and after that
[12:20] <apachelogger> if you should answer yes then you have if not then you have not
[12:20] <allee> bulldog98: Bug 237732 is IMHO opinion a usability nightmare. wishlist is british understatement
[12:20] <apachelogger> :P
[12:20] <rbelem> apachelogger, or just apply the patches toghether with all other patches?
[12:20] <apachelogger> it is the silly form paradigm
[12:20] <apachelogger> like when you have to check whether you are a terrorist or not
[12:20] <apachelogger> who would go yes on that one exactly?
[12:20] <Quintasan> Do you belong to a clan or tribe? Error 
[12:20] <Quintasan> Are you serious?
[12:21] <rbelem> apachelogger, that one is funny
[12:21] <apachelogger> rbelem: that is what I wanted all along
[12:21] <rbelem> apachelogger, oki
[12:21] <rbelem> apachelogger, i will to that then
[12:21] <apachelogger> roger
[12:21]  * apachelogger tries to figure out what kind of model he needs
[12:22] <rbelem> apachelogger, do you think we will have 4.7.2?
[12:22] <apachelogger> in updates
[12:22] <apachelogger> not in final
[12:22] <Quintasan> Have you ever ordered, incited, committed, assisted, or otherwise participated in genocide? Error 
[12:22] <Quintasan> LOL
[12:22] <apachelogger> see
[12:22] <rbelem> :-D
[12:22] <apachelogger> form paradigm 
[12:22] <rbelem> apachelogger, oki
[12:23] <allee> err, should be kde bug  237732 not lp bug 
[12:23] <apachelogger> bulldog98: ^
[12:23] <bulldog98> ScottK: couldn’t we just use latest rekonq, final will be released soon too
[12:24] <apachelogger> didn't I propose that weeks ago?
[12:24] <bulldog98> apachelogger: I’d love to simply use the beta, because it easier(tm) and has some usibility improvements including use of kmessagewidget
[12:25] <bulldog98> ScottK: this is the final beta, think of it as an rc
[12:25] <apachelogger> you could remove a button and it would be a usability improvement for rekonq
[12:25] <bulldog98> apachelogger: maybe you should talk to upstream about usibility then :P
[12:26] <apachelogger> yeah, I have seen their code
[12:28] <bulldog98> ScottK: also ssl security was improved, better view for the ssl certs
[12:28] <Quintasan> Riddell, apachelogger: Do you think that putting Canonical as U.S. Point of Contact is a good idea or not? I have no idea what else to put there
[12:29] <rbelem> Quintasan, yup
[12:29] <rbelem> Quintasan, i made that
[12:30] <Quintasan> Goddamn those stupid questions
[12:31] <rbelem> hahaha
[12:31] <Quintasan> Are you a terrorist?
[12:31] <Quintasan> HELL YEAH
[12:31] <apachelogger> see
[12:31] <apachelogger> Quintasan: ask marianna, surely she will know what to put as point of contact
[12:31] <bulldog98> Quintasan: now you won’t get a visa :P
[12:32] <rbelem> Quintasan, but it is better to not make jokes about that, they take that really serious
[12:32] <Quintasan> I know, I know
[12:32] <Quintasan> Why would anyone sane admit that they are?
[12:33] <bulldog98> Quintasan: they think terrorists are stupid
[12:33] <bulldog98> and you can trust them 
[12:33] <bulldog98> that they’ll admit that they are terrorists
[12:33] <bulldog98> which is complete nonsence
[12:34] <rbelem> Quintasan, some brazilians were send back to brazil and have their visa revoked because of jokes related to the form
[12:34] <Quintasan> lol
[12:35] <rbelem> crazy, but this is the way the things work
[12:35] <Quintasan> I wouldn't exactly put "work" there
[12:48] <rbelem> Quintasan, i agree, but in brazilian bureaucracy there are even more stupid things
[13:04] <Riddell> agateau: I'll download daily kubuntu and test your change
[13:05] <agateau> Riddell: Thanks. Don't forget to try it in German!
[13:05] <Riddell> ja
[13:05] <bulldog98> agateau: what change?
[13:06] <agateau> bulldog98: "keyboard variant" combobox is too small for German strings, see bug  851160
[13:07] <bulldog98> agateau: oh nice :), I can’t test it (bandwidth not sufficent)
[13:07] <agateau> bulldog98: same here :/
[13:08] <bulldog98> agateau: I’ve got 56 kbit/s down
[13:08] <agateau> bulldog98: oh, that's really very little
[13:08] <agateau> bulldog98: kudos to you for contributing to Kubuntu in this situation
[13:09]  * bulldog98 knows that ~6-7h for downloading an iso
[13:09] <agateau> I see
[13:09] <agateau> it takes 1h and a half here
[13:11] <bulldog98> agateau: and only think about uploading kdegames :( I needed 2.5 h for that)
[13:11] <bulldog98> I hope I get a better connection until end of this year
[13:12] <agateau> let's cross fingers for you, then!
[13:15] <bulldog98> thx
[13:23] <bulldog98> agateau: I’ll get fibre glass :)
[13:24] <agateau> bulldog98: then I will be much slower than you!
[13:24] <shadeslayer> \o
[13:25] <bulldog98> agateau: yes. Thats at my parents house, but I’ll go for studying into a city (maybe I’ll use UMTS than)
[13:26] <shadeslayer> agateau: need some ux advice :)
[13:26] <agateau> shadeslayer: shoot
[13:26] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: yes you have slower connection than :P
[13:26] <shadeslayer> agateau: http://kshadeslayer.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/snapshot11.png << is that a good way to add a custom IM status
[13:26] <shadeslayer> or
[13:27] <shadeslayer> this http://i.imgur.com/Fa9Bn.png
[13:27] <shadeslayer> ( you just enter a status in the line edit, hit enter, it gets added to to the drop down
[13:28] <shadeslayer> agateau: http://kshadeslayer.wordpress.com/2011/09/18/woshibon-weekend/snapshot2/ << second part of that snapshot
[13:29] <shadeslayer> i'm trying to figure out how to draw a small remove icon over my custom IM statuses when you hover over them in the 2nd implementation, can't quite figure out how to do that yet
[13:30]  * agateau thinks about the two options
[13:33] <agateau> shadeslayer: how do you define the status icon?
[13:34] <shadeslayer> agateau: qvariantfromvalue(Tp::Presence::Available)
[13:34] <shadeslayer> and then i map it to icons
[13:34] <shadeslayer> similarly you have busy/away/DND
[13:34]  * apachelogger uses nokia maps most of the time
[13:34] <agateau> shadeslayer: I mean, if you enter the status text in a line edit, how does the user pick if it should show a green, red, or clock icon?
[13:35] <shadeslayer> ah
[13:35] <shadeslayer> agateau: actually, right now it behaves like GTal
[13:35] <shadeslayer> *GTalk
[13:35] <bulldog98> ScottK: should I backport ktorrent to natty or try out if it builds with older version?
[13:35] <shadeslayer> you add a status, and both of them get added
[13:36] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: worked much with models
[13:36] <apachelogger> ?
[13:36] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i would like to learn about them
[13:36] <shadeslayer> also
[13:36] <agateau> shadeslayer: both of them? I don't get it
[13:36] <apachelogger> you are no help :P
[13:37] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: kevin is asking why we did not use KCalCore
[13:37] <shadeslayer> agateau: used GTalk much? :P
[13:37] <apachelogger> cause it is epic fat shit
[13:37] <agateau> shadeslayer: never
[13:37] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: which kevin?
[13:37] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: Kevin Kramer
[13:37] <apachelogger> cause it is epic fat shit
[13:37] <apachelogger> :P
[13:37] <shadeslayer> haha
[13:37] <shadeslayer> one sec
[13:37] <shadeslayer> call
[13:38] <apachelogger> also tell him that I should contact him for beer sometime the following weeks :P
[13:39] <shadeslayer> heh :P
[13:40] <agateau> shadeslayer: I would go for http://kshadeslayer.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/snapshot11.png but get rid of the "Choose a custom status..." submenu. I would replace it with a separator and then a "Custom..." menu entry, which would show the custom message dialog 
[13:41] <shadeslayer> agateau: right, so in GTalk, you have a single line edit, you add your status, and it gets added like this http://i.imgur.com/iPLV0.png
[13:42] <agateau> shadeslayer: that's nice as well, but they did something which you did not: they reduced the number of status type to available, busy and offline
[13:42] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: so, models, are you talking about programming models or models in real life :P
[13:43] <shadeslayer> agateau: ah yes, if i implement that, all those other 'Away' and other statuses go away
[13:43] <agateau> shadeslayer: I think this status grouping is a good idea
[13:44] <shadeslayer> agateau: its just that my current implementation has 1 extra click that i'd like to get rid off :P
[13:44] <agateau> shadeslayer: so when you click "Custom Message.." in GTalk the menu entry turns itself into a lineedit?
[13:45] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: class Catwalk : public QObject
[13:45] <allee> agateau: Tested your .ui patch with a liveCD installation.  Works fine for me.  Thx a lot!!!   I've add an review comment too.
[13:45] <shadeslayer> agateau: you get this : http://i.imgur.com/75MTF.png
[13:45] <apachelogger> when will you people learn that I am too crazy to talk about one specific topic at one time?
[13:45] <agateau> allee: great! thanks for testing!
[13:45] <agateau> shadeslayer: what sucks a bit with their solution is that the only way to rm a custom status is to rm them all
[13:45] <shadeslayer> agateau: yes, and i'm going to improve that bit, i'm going to have  nice 'x' or  '-' against the status
[13:46] <shadeslayer> you click that and it gets removed
[13:47] <agateau> shadeslayer: that sounds a bit too fancy imho
[13:47] <shadeslayer> hahaha 
[13:47] <agateau> shadeslayer: I mean managing your custom status is not something you do very often, it does not need to be exposed that much
[13:48] <shadeslayer> agateau: thats what i thought when i designed the dialog thing
[13:48] <shadeslayer> agateau: but don't you think IM statuses are much more ... realtime things?
[13:48] <shadeslayer> its like when you update your facebook status
[13:48] <shadeslayer> or your G+ status
[13:49] <shadeslayer> one click and its done
[13:49] <agateau> shadeslayer: to add an entry I agree, but maybe not to get rid of them
[13:50] <shadeslayer> ok, any ideas for getting rid of entries? :P
[13:50] <agateau> you could just replace the GTalk "Clear custom messages" entry with a "Edit Custom Messages..." dialog
[13:50] <shadeslayer> i really don't want a 'Clear all entries' action
[13:50] <agateau> there you can edit/add/rm them
[13:50] <shadeslayer> ah, hmm
[13:51] <agateau> and keep the "Custom Message..." one-click-like entries to add new messages
[13:52] <agateau> Then you only need to modify the dialog a bit to allow for edition of whether a message is part of the "available" or the "away" group
[13:54] <shadeslayer> actually, there's no point of a away group, we're going to have a auto away feature that will use your current presence status 
[13:54] <shadeslayer> so you can just set the time out, and it'll autoaway after that time out
[13:55] <Riddell> agateau: merged!
[13:55] <agateau> Riddell: \o/
[13:55] <Riddell> agateau: good thing it worked really else I'd be stuck with this silly german keyboard layout
[13:55] <agateau> Riddell: :)
[13:56] <agateau> shadeslayer: you may want to say in your away status that you are on the phone, or having lunch or something like that. Doesn't this make sense?
[13:56] <agateau> shadeslayer: but sure, autoaway is a nice feature
[13:56] <shadeslayer> h,,
[13:56] <shadeslayer> hmm, true that
[13:57] <agateau> shadeslayer: I mean, both features are useful, and do not conflict
[13:58] <agateau> shadeslayer: it seems ichat is doing something very similar to what I suggest :) http://www.ralphjohns.co.uk/versions/ichat3/ichat3pics/StatusMessages/iChat3StatusMessagesIndex.html
[13:58] <shadeslayer> agateau: its just i feel that drop down thing is cluttered
[13:59] <shadeslayer> hmm
[13:59] <agateau> shadeslayer: I think it would look less cluttered if you get rid of the submenu and use only one icon per status type (available, away, invisible|off)
[13:59] <shadeslayer> agateau: adium in OS X does what the screenshot on my blog shows
[13:59] <agateau> shadeslayer: the submenu you mean?
[14:00] <shadeslayer> the dialog, it doesn't do the submenu thing
[14:01] <agateau> shadeslayer: so it's like ichat then
[14:02] <shadeslayer> i haven't used iChat, so dunno :P
[14:05] <agateau> shadeslayer: check the link I posted a few minutes ago
[14:05] <shadeslayer> right, saw that
[14:07] <shadeslayer> eh
[14:07] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: wordpress does not offer more than 3 conversations when replying ?
[14:07] <shadeslayer> in the comment section i mean
[14:08] <apachelogger> configurable
[14:08] <shadeslayer> madness
[14:53] <rbelem> shadeslayer, apachelogger, do you know how enable the packages to build using the -nc flag?
[14:54] <rbelem> when using dh7
[14:56] <rbelem> ScottK, ^
[15:05] <bulldog98> yofel: are you working on kde-workspace backport?
[15:07] <bulldog98> what to do about following error in pbuilder? pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: Depends: kde-workspace-dev (>= 4:4.6) which is a virtual package.
[15:07] <debfx> fabo: you've changed the icecc sync request to 0.9.7-4 but that doesn't seem to be uploaded
[15:09] <fabo> debfx: rah :/ uploaded now
[15:10] <debfx> thansk :)
[15:15]  * bulldog98 needs a new icecc version :)
[15:22] <debfx> markey_nokialyze: how do I add applets in amarok after I've removed all?
[15:22] <debfx> the configure button isn't displayed anymore
[15:23] <yofel> bulldog98: got the PPA in your pbuilder sources?
[15:23] <bulldog98> yep
[15:23] <yofel> bulldog98: and yes, I'll do workspace later today, needs newer python packages
[15:23] <bulldog98> so it might depend on that, I’ll continue with something else
[15:25] <yofel> bulldog98: see depgraph for what doesn't need workspace
[15:25] <bulldog98> yofel: yeah :)
[15:27] <bulldog98> but first I want to do a bit of kubuntu-dev-tools coding
[15:27] <bulldog98> apachelogger: btw should I merge in the stuff I created?
[15:27] <apachelogger> sure
[15:32] <bulldog98> Me’ll do that
[15:32] <bulldog98> after I added an other thing to it
[15:32] <bulldog98> I also suggest doing an daily build of it in ninjas ppa
[15:34] <bulldog98> apachelogger: how can I remove an \n for a ruby string? and test for it?
[15:35] <bulldog98> Riddell: is it possible to change the location to which a bzr checkout points?
[15:35] <yofel> bulldog98: bzr unbind, bzr bind <new branch at lp>
[15:35] <bulldog98> yofel: thx
[15:36] <Riddell> that's the one
[15:36] <Riddell> bzr switch is similar for  branches
[15:36] <bulldog98> ok
[15:38] <CIA-130> [lp:~bulldog98/kubuntu-dev-tools/trunk] Jonathan Kolberg * 134 * (3 files in 2 dirs) Updated kgetsource and made zsh completion better
[15:39] <apachelogger> I think my name server went kaput
[15:40] <bulldog98> apachelogger: you run a nameserver?
[15:41] <apachelogger> sure, how else would I remember all the names?
[15:42] <Riddell> apachelogger: wise man says "responsibility is a challenge, challenge builds self, but running your own nameserver is just masochism"
[15:42] <ScottK> Riddell: Definitely.  Running a nameserver is a job best left for experts.
[15:43] <apachelogger> wise man must be jealous
[15:44] <apachelogger> woah
[15:44] <apachelogger> superhack alert
[15:49] <bulldog98> apachelogger: whot superhack?
[15:49] <rbelem> apachelogger, do you have an idea to make dpkg-buildpackage -nc work with dh7?
[15:49] <apachelogger> uds-qml
[15:49] <apachelogger> rbelem: why would it not be workign with dh7
[15:50] <apachelogger> ?
[15:50] <rbelem> :-)
[15:50] <rbelem> apachelogger, it does not build the package again if you make a change to the code
[15:50] <rbelem> i dont know why
[15:51] <apachelogger> well yeah, that is what no clean implies :P
[15:51] <apachelogger> rbelem: please paste an ls debian
[15:51] <rbelem> oki
[15:51]  * bulldog98 is now merging kubuntu-dev-tools
[15:51] <apachelogger> there is probably some file by which dh decides whether it needs to run install (and install will trigger a new cmake run and make)
[15:51] <apachelogger> bulldog98: if you break it you buy it
[15:52] <bulldog98> apachelogger: it’s not broken
[15:55] <bulldog98> how can i trunkate local modification in bzr?
[15:56] <allee> bulldog98: bzr revert
[15:57] <bulldog98> allee: thx
[15:57] <bulldog98> Riddell: would you add that to the dolphin plugin?
[15:58] <Riddell> hmm, could do, although I'm worried about adding too much to the plugin because the UI is just a long context menu which will get longer
[15:59] <allee> Riddell: (In)famous   'More ...'   submenu ;)
[16:02] <bulldog98> Riddell: or make it configurable, what you display as options
[16:02] <bulldog98> some checkboxes and option and a possibility to restore a default
[16:03] <bulldog98> checkbox revert \n checkbox merge …
[16:05] <bulldog98> agateau: ^ better idea?
[16:05]  * agateau reads
[16:06] <allee> bulldog98: I would compare how svn, mercuriel, git handle it.  And as step one do the same.
[16:06] <allee> the xxx dolphin plugins do it
[16:07] <agateau> bulldog98: having checkboxes to decide whether menu items should be shown sounds a bit tedious to use
[16:07] <bulldog98> allee: I miss some options for the git plugin
[16:08] <agateau> as allee said, would be good to have a look at what the other plugins do
[16:08] <bulldog98> agateau: was the first thing that came into my mind
[16:08] <bulldog98> agateau: but they are to limited
[16:08]  * bulldog98 needs options more of them
[16:08] <CIA-130> [lp:kubuntu-dev-tools] Jonathan Kolberg * 119 * (17 files in 4 dirs) Merged in lp:~bulldog98/kubuntu-dev-tools/trunk
[16:10] <Riddell> I suspect the other plugins don't have a "revert" option, since I mostly copied the other plugins to make the bazaar one
[16:12] <shadeslayer> yofel: any news on the digikam merge btw?
[16:13] <yofel> shadeslayer: er no, had to fix my dads PC today (which started with buying a new mainboard...) and some other things. Now I'm doing workspace, I'll take a look in a few mins
[16:14] <shadeslayer> ah ok :)
[16:15] <shadeslayer> "2011-09-19 14:16:27 INFO    Removing candidates:
[16:15] <shadeslayer> 2011-09-19 14:16:27 INFO        kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts 11.04ubuntu1 in oneiric"
[16:15] <shadeslayer> \o/
[16:15] <yofel> heh
[16:19] <bambee> evening
[16:20] <debfx> ScottK: qtwebkit is waiting for approval
[16:20] <bulldog98> bambee: hi
[16:21] <yofel> bah, python-qt4 wants newer python-dbus :S
[16:22] <bulldog98> agateau: could you have a look to http://people.ubuntu.com/~bulldog98/ksm_error.png ?
[16:23] <bulldog98> still copying
[16:25] <bulldog98> Riddell: btw why isn’t the qbzr stuff a child window of dolphin
[16:26] <CIA-130> [lp:kubuntu-dev-tools] Jonathan Kolberg * 120 * bin/kgetsource Made the autoguessing of the version working use kgetsource PACKAGE to get the latest stable Version
[16:27] <bulldog98> agateau: could you have a look to http://people.ubuntu.com/~bulldog98/ksm_error.png ?
[16:28] <agateau> bulldog98: what should I look at?
[16:29] <agateau> Ah "abbrechen" probably
[16:29] <bulldog98> the string is overlapping
[16:30] <bulldog98> it’s part of kde-workspace
[16:30] <claydoh> anyone else having problems logging into google accounts with the updated rekonq?
[16:30] <bulldog98> and I want to know how I can fix that
[16:31] <agateau> bulldog98: look in the source :)
[16:31] <bulldog98> claydoh: what version do you use
[16:31] <bulldog98> agateau: did that, but I don’t know why it happens and apachelogger neither
[16:31] <Riddell> bulldog98: qbzr has no option for --attach <WinID>, this is because it's Qt and pure Qt has no equivalent of KWindowSystem.setMainWindow()
[16:31] <agateau> bulldog98: you need to discover which Plasma widget is used, and then fix it
[16:31] <bulldog98> at least I under stood him so
[16:31] <agateau> bulldog98: I need to go right now
[16:32] <claydoh> the one from experimental 0.7.90-0ubuntu1~ppa1
[16:32] <agateau> bulldog98: can we talk about this tomorrow?
[16:32] <apachelogger> bulldog98: I told you why it fails
[16:32] <bulldog98> agateau: yes
[16:32] <apachelogger> also it should still be done in qml
[16:32] <bulldog98> apachelogger: maybe
[16:32] <apachelogger> the code for the shutdown is a classic case of OMGWIDGETS
[16:33]  * agateau agrees with apachelogger
[16:33] <agateau> ok, see you tomorrow
[16:33] <bulldog98> apachelogger: if you point me to something exept nokia docs for qml, I’ll do it
[16:33] <bulldog98> by
[16:33] <apachelogger> what is wrong with the qt docs?
[16:34] <claydoh> bulldog98: I have no idea if this was an issue in the regular version in oneiric
[16:34]  * apachelogger spends half his day in the qtcreator help tab
[16:35] <bulldog98> claydoh: hm I can login to my google account
[16:35] <claydoh> odd I seldom use rekonq will dig and see
[16:35] <bulldog98> apachelogger: should clone his qt experience and place it into my head
[16:36] <bulldog98> apachelogger: uds-qml is in your scratch, isn’t it?
[16:36] <claydoh> odd I seldom use rekonq will dig and see
[16:36] <claydoh> heh sorry
[16:36]  * yofel tries to dig up natty pyth0rn packaging of KDE stuff
[16:37] <yofel> this is totally un-backportable
[16:37] <bulldog98> yofel: yep
[16:37] <apachelogger> bulldog98: yes
[16:37] <apachelogger> bulldog98: it aint code you want to learn qml from though :P
[16:37] <bulldog98> it’s kind of an total mess
[16:37] <bulldog98> apachelogger: then point me to proper code :P
[16:38] <apachelogger> qt docs
[16:39] <bulldog98> apachelogger: I already read them and I still don’t know who to write qml and use it in an c++ app
[16:40] <apachelogger> why dont you start with writing the qml for starters?!
[16:40] <apachelogger> baby steps
[16:40] <bulldog98> apachelogger: ? things like hello world?
[16:40] <apachelogger> no
[16:40] <apachelogger> the shutdown dialog
[16:40] <yofel> ScottK: do you know what exactly '--no-dbg-cleaning' does for dh_python2?
[16:41] <ScottK> yofel: Yes.
[16:41] <ScottK> It doesn't remove pure python files from the -dbg package.
[16:41] <yofel> hm, what's going to break if I remove that?
[16:41] <ScottK> Non-working dbg package.
[16:42] <ScottK> If you look at the previous revision of the package you can see the horrible back (but working) workaround.
[16:44] <yofel> ok, thanks
[16:46]  * apachelogger tests new uds-qml
[16:50] <bulldog98> apachelogger: how could I test changes for ksmserver with out loging out and in again?
[16:50] <apachelogger> xephyr
[16:51] <ScottK> debfx: What testing has it had?
[16:52] <ScottK> yofel: BTW, for python-dbus, python-qt4, and some others they share a namespace, so they all need to be either dh_python2 or python-support.  You can't mix them.
[16:55] <debfx> ScottK: I've checked that it fixes the amarok crash and did some basic rekonq testing
[16:55]  * ScottK looks
[16:56] <ScottK> debfx: fabo is packaging 2.2.0rc1 right now.  Why week 36 and not the rc?
[16:56] <debfx> ScottK: week36 is the RC
[16:56] <ScottK> I see.
[16:57] <ScottK> Any reason not to call it that?
[16:57] <ScottK> (not that it really matters)
[16:58] <ScottK> Accepted in any case.
[16:58] <shadeslayer> ScottK: off topic, have you looked at this documentary called "Waiting for superman"
[16:58] <ScottK> No
[16:59] <shadeslayer> Ah, its about the American Public school system, i really suggest watching it :)
[16:59] <ScottK> If it's going to tell me the system is complete crap, I don't need a documentary for that.
[16:59] <shadeslayer> thats, what it does for the first 45 minutes :P
[17:01] <debfx> ScottK: I didn't want to change the version scheme (in case we need to change back to weekly)
[17:01] <ScottK> OK.  Makes sense.
[17:06] <ScottK> debfx: Would you please look at Bug 853841 - Seems like it might be related to your last round of changeds.
[17:10] <debfx> ScottK: will do
[17:10] <ScottK> Thanks.
[17:43] <ScottK> debfx: Thanks for looking into quassel.
[17:55] <ScottK> micahg: Did you get a chance to look at kdesdk over the weekend?
[17:56] <micahg> ScottK: unfortunately not, will try tonight
[17:57] <ScottK> OK.  Thanks.
[17:57] <micahg> ScottK: is it actually on an image?
[17:58] <ScottK> I think it has binaries on the dvd.
[18:00] <ScottK> micahg: Yes, it's on the dvd.
[18:01] <debfx> ScottK: no problem, after all I've introduced that bug ;)
[18:02] <debfx> are we even going to release powerpc images?
[18:02] <ScottK> If someone turns up that can test them.
[18:02] <ScottK> But it's the only FTBFS in the Kubuntu packageset, so the completionist in me wants it fixed regardless.
[18:31] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: http://i.imgur.com/5ctus.png :P
[18:31] <shadeslayer> is it pron?
[18:31] <shadeslayer> no 
[18:31] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: looks nice nevertheless :P
[18:31] <shadeslayer> is that using our parser?
[18:31] <apachelogger> yus
[18:31] <shadeslayer> \o/
[18:32] <apachelogger> did I mention that quickuds will have phonon integration
[18:32] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: workaround?
[18:32] <apachelogger> so it can actually ply prn
[18:32] <shadeslayer> hahaha :D
[18:32] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: btw the parser now uses qsharedpointer
[18:32]  * shadeslayer checks
[18:32] <bambee> nokia smartphones <3
[18:34]  * shadeslayer needs to revise his cute pointers
[18:36] <shadeslayer> ah ok
[18:41]  * apachelogger needs to fix up his qmake a bit
[18:43] <shadeslayer> dude
[18:43] <shadeslayer> you broke my app
[18:43] <shadeslayer> :P
[18:43] <shadeslayer> now to test it
[18:43] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: can you please move that app somewhere?
[18:43] <apachelogger> it is spitting all over sane source layout :P
[18:43] <shadeslayer> like where?
[18:43] <shadeslayer> hmm
[18:43] <apachelogger> seperate repo for all I care :P
[18:43] <shadeslayer> its just a app to test the library
[18:44] <apachelogger> which is in the same pro as the lib so both will get built for no good reason
[18:44] <shadeslayer> hmm, right ...
[18:45] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: do i need to keep !isEmpty(LIBQCALPARSER_STATIC) {
[18:45] <shadeslayer>     CONFIG += staticlib
[18:45] <shadeslayer> }
[18:45] <shadeslayer> or can that go as well
[18:45] <rbelem> apachelogger, do you think is ok to remove kdelibs/experimental/kactivites from the KDE/4.7 repos?
[18:47] <apachelogger> why?
[18:47] <apachelogger> scary
[18:48] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: away with it
[18:48] <apachelogger> aint working anyway
[18:48] <apachelogger> plus I am not using sub projects
[18:48] <apachelogger> that makes qtcreator get a major headache
[18:48] <rbelem> apachelogger, since it is in its own tree
[18:49] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i'll write tests for it tomorrow
[18:50] <apachelogger> rbelem: I do not follow... KDE 4.7 was released with it, so it should definitely not be removed at this point
[18:50] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: groovy
[18:50] <apachelogger> qtest ftw
[18:50] <shadeslayer> yeah, i've never written a test, and this looks like the perfect oppurtunity to learn ;)
[18:50] <shadeslayer> small library that i'm familar with ...
[18:52] <apachelogger> righto
[18:52] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: test app is gone
[18:52] <apachelogger> cheers
[18:59] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: important question
[18:59] <apachelogger> what to call the app?
[18:59] <shadeslayer> app?
[18:59] <shadeslayer> oh the qml app
[19:00] <shadeslayer> no fricking idea
[19:00] <shadeslayer> QMLUDSCal xD
[19:01] <apachelogger> lol
[19:01] <apachelogger> I was thinking QuickUDS but that is a bit silly
[19:01] <apachelogger> so I am tending towards UDS
[19:01] <apachelogger> binary all lower
[19:02] <shadeslayer> qUDS? :P
[19:02] <shadeslayer> and pronounce it as, "Q-Dee-Ess"
[19:02] <apachelogger> wouldnt that be the Qt Dev Days?
[19:02] <apachelogger> confuse me some more will you
[19:03] <shadeslayer> aw, you saw my hidden intentions :(
[19:03] <DWonderly> :D
[19:03] <shadeslayer> hey DWonderly
[19:03] <DWonderly> Hiya
[19:03] <DWonderly> I should prolly go back to my known nick shouldn't I...
[19:24] <bulldog98> apachelogger: how can I install http://i.imgur.com/5ctus.png on my N8?
[19:25] <apachelogger> you haz n8?
[19:25] <apachelogger> friend, you just became developer of the uds app :P
[19:26] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: haha, I am pulling dirty shit here .... I am simply adding your instructions to my pro :P
[19:26] <apachelogger> build it as part of the app
[19:26] <apachelogger> scary shit that is
[19:27] <shadeslayer> heh
[19:27] <bulldog98> apachelogger: yes I have, how to install now?
[19:27] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: installing involves pulling out hair and the likes :P
[19:27] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: no prob I have more than enought hairs :P
[19:28] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[19:30] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: where is the code?
[19:30] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: git@git.kde.org:scratch/sitter/uds-qml
[19:31] <shadeslayer> and git@github.com:shadeslayer/libqcalparser.git
[19:31] <apachelogger> bulldog98: WIP
[19:31] <apachelogger> bulldog98: get qt sdk
[19:31] <bulldog98> apachelogger: me used kde 4.0 as productive, so have no fear
[19:32] <apachelogger> no
[19:32] <apachelogger> I meant the repos are not what I have here
[19:32]  * apachelogger is reshuffeling code all day long
[19:33] <shadeslayer> i have to go learn MATLAB now
[19:33] <shadeslayer> -.-
[19:33] <bulldog98> apachelogger: hm I’ll need atleast 3h to get sdk so you can do all kind of stuff you want with the repro until then
[19:33] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: :O
[19:33] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: plz dont kill yourself
[19:33] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: stop using propritary stuff
[19:34] <apachelogger> bulldog98: actually I am just about done :P
[19:34] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: don't worry, i survived python, this can't be half as bad
[19:34] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: i said studying, i woP
[19:34] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: python is easy if you get used to it
[19:34] <shadeslayer> herp derp
[19:34] <shadeslayer> *i said studying, i don't actually use MATLAB
[19:35] <shadeslayer> i just rote learn the programs, enough to get by in the shitty exam
[19:36] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: you should fix that, you need to convince your prof of open source :)
[19:36] <shadeslayer> infact, someone just told me we have a exam in the morning :P
[19:36] <shadeslayer> can't
[19:36] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: that would involve going to the university and getting the course changed
[19:37] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: i couldn't get them to use a sane compiler, do you think they'll listen to me now ? :P
[19:37] <shadeslayer> they use the Borland Compiler from the 90's
[19:37] <shadeslayer> the one with the blue ide and such
[19:37] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: what the * is tha legal to use shit like that
[19:37] <shadeslayer> lol
[19:38] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: alot of the students believe real world applications are written using that compiler
[19:38] <bulldog98> lol
[19:38] <bulldog98> I think most app are compiled with gcc or the visual studio one
[19:38] <shadeslayer> infact, i had a interviewer ask me what telnet was, and i kept laughing for the next 5 minutes
[19:39] <bulldog98> lol
[19:39] <apachelogger> bulldog98: depends a lot on what you define as app
[19:39] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: did you told him that it’s outdated?
[19:39] <apachelogger> there also is java
[19:39] <apachelogger> and .net
[19:39] <apachelogger> and more java
[19:39] <apachelogger> also java
[19:39] <apachelogger> flash actually too
[19:39] <apachelogger> or whatever the adobe stuff is
[19:39] <bulldog98> apachelogger: ok I mean C++ and C stuff
[19:39] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: i told him its legacy and that people use ssh now
[19:39] <shadeslayer> adobe air
[19:40] <bulldog98> and the hardware code
[19:40] <apachelogger> actually I think there is still plenty of software that is deployed with borland
[19:40] <apachelogger> but yeah msvc is on the rise
[19:40] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: that would be VHDL
[19:40] <shadeslayer> i actually managed to learn some VHDL without my brain imploding ....
[19:41] <bulldog98> !search VHDL
[19:41] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: signed adder in vhdl : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vhdl_signed_adder.png
[19:42] <shadeslayer> and then there's ASM :P
[19:43] <apachelogger> http://paste.kde.org/123961/
[19:43] <apachelogger> good luck reading that
[19:43] <bulldog98> ok
[19:43] <shadeslayer> #else // !Q_WS_MAEMO_6 && !Q_WS_MAEMO_5 whut?
[19:43] <shadeslayer> oh, ok, understood
[19:44] <bulldog98> nice code :)
[19:45]  * bulldog98 needs ~8h to download the sdk, so apachelogger I’ll test that tomorrow
[19:46] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: have fun reading http://paste.kde.org/123979
[19:46] <apachelogger> glib
[19:46] <apachelogger> fail
[19:46] <apachelogger> not reading
[19:46] <apachelogger> kthxbai
[19:46] <shadeslayer> hehe :P
[19:47] <shadeslayer> the header looks relatively simple :P
[19:48] <shadeslayer> anyway, back to matlab
[19:55] <apachelogger> bulldog98, shadeslayer: to build get the repo, run ./repo-update, fire up qtcreator and deploy away
[19:55] <apachelogger> (libqcal is not built into the binary itself)
[19:55] <apachelogger> s/not/now
[19:55] <shadeslayer> aw crap, i was in stable KDE a couple of minutes ago
[19:55] <shadeslayer> i could have tested it then
[19:56] <apachelogger> or rather fixed it :P
[19:56] <apachelogger> I am reasonable sure that the desktop ui is broken beyond repair
[19:56] <shadeslayer> heh :P
[19:59] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/123979
[19:59] <shadeslayer> erm
[19:59] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/123979
[19:59] <shadeslayer> derp
[20:00] <shadeslayer> wtf
[20:00] <shadeslayer> :-1: error: No rule to make target `src/qcalparser.cpp', needed by `qcalparser.o'.  Stop.
[20:00] <shadeslayer> hehe
[20:00] <apachelogger> uh
[20:00] <apachelogger> sec
[20:00]  * apachelogger is new to git submodules
[20:08] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: pull and run repo-update again
[20:09] <shadeslayer> works
[20:09] <apachelogger> yay
[20:09] <apachelogger> so git submodules actually lock on a particular commit hash
[20:09] <shadeslayer> file:///home/shadeslayer/kde/uds-build-desktop-Qt_in_PATH_Debug/qml/ubuntudevelopersummit/main.qml:1:1: module "QtQuick" version 1.1 is not installed 
[20:09] <shadeslayer>      import QtQuick 1.1 
[20:09] <shadeslayer>      ^ 
[20:09] <shadeslayer> as expected
[20:10] <apachelogger> ah
[20:10] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i'm in neon
[20:10] <apachelogger> if you want to work on desktop you'll need to switch something in the main.cpp
[20:10] <apachelogger> I think
[20:10] <shadeslayer> so, won't work
[20:10] <apachelogger>         #else
[20:10] <apachelogger>             QLatin1String("qml/ubuntudevelopersummit/main.qml")
[20:10] <apachelogger> instead of uds use desktop there
[20:10] <shadeslayer> neon does not have declrative stuff i think
[20:10] <shadeslayer> ok
[20:10] <apachelogger> code for that is in qml/desktop/
[20:11] <apachelogger> which does not need to depend on qtquick 1.1 and is likely broken in more fun ways ^^
[20:11] <shadeslayer> same thing
[20:11] <shadeslayer> huh weird
[20:11] <shadeslayer> one sec
[20:11] <apachelogger> well
[20:11] <apachelogger> it might be using 1.1
[20:11] <shadeslayer> file:///home/shadeslayer/kde/uds-build-desktop-Qt_in_PATH_Debug/qml/ubuntudevelopersummit/main.qml:1:1: module "QtQuick" version 1.1 is not installed 
[20:11] <shadeslayer> wtf?
[20:12] <apachelogger> oh
[20:12] <apachelogger> eh?
[20:12] <shadeslayer>             MDeclarativeCache::applicationDirPath() % QLatin1Literal("/../qml/desktop/main.qml")
[20:12] <shadeslayer> oh
[20:12] <apachelogger> wrong!
[20:12] <shadeslayer> wrong place
[20:12] <shadeslayer> well, it starts
[20:12] <shadeslayer> but i get nothingness
[20:12] <apachelogger> yeah
[20:12] <apachelogger> broken
[20:13] <apachelogger> since I changed everything around
[20:13] <shadeslayer> he
[20:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ok
[20:13] <apachelogger> oh lord
[20:13] <apachelogger> that is *all* different
[20:13] <apachelogger> makes no sense whatsoever
[20:13] <shadeslayer> i'll write tests for the library and fix the Desktop app then
[20:13] <shadeslayer>             console.debug("nu model")
[20:13] <shadeslayer> lol
[20:13] <apachelogger> fixing it is easy
[20:14] <shadeslayer> for you it is
[20:14] <apachelogger> there is a context provided object called mainCalendar
[20:14] <shadeslayer> i know very little QML
[20:14] <apachelogger> it has a property sessionModel which is the model for the view
[20:15] <apachelogger> the entries can be accessed via 'summary' 'description' and the like (See uds or symbian code for that)
[20:15] <apachelogger> to update the modules either call update() with the ical path on mainCalendar or updateFromCache()
[20:15] <apachelogger> latter only works after former was run once
[20:15] <shadeslayer> well
[20:15] <apachelogger> there is also userCalendar which is just like mainCalendar except it can be used to retrieve the user's specific calendar
[20:15] <shadeslayer> ah
[20:15] <apachelogger> (again see uds code for how that works)
[20:15] <shadeslayer> nice
[20:16] <apachelogger> incidentially enough there was a catwalk class earlier
[20:16] <apachelogger> and I am thinking about reviving it instead of the two managers ^^
[20:16] <shadeslayer> i'll bbiab
[20:16] <apachelogger> like you could totally do with one catwalk and two models ^^
[20:35] <CIA-130> [lp:kubuntu-dev-tools] Jonathan Kolberg * 121 * debian/ (changelog control copyright) Made zsh a recomend and added copyright and changes to changelog
[20:40]  * bambee watchs "match point" for the third time... scarlett johansson is just.... perfect <3
[20:41]  * bulldog98 goes to bed and lets the pc download QtSDK
[20:41] <bulldog98> btw why don’t we have everything in our repros?
[20:41] <shadeslayer> we ... don't ? 
[20:41] <yofel> shadeslayer: your digikam merge looks fine as far as I see.
[20:42] <shadeslayer> alright, i'll push to packagers then, and you can upload it
[20:42] <shadeslayer> or you can merge and upload
[20:43] <shadeslayer> because i'm pretty sleepy now, and i'll probably do something wrong
[20:45] <yofel> shadeslayer: got the package somewhere in a PPA?
[20:46] <shadeslayer> nope, built it locally
[20:47] <debfx> please don't upload digikam with all those library packages
[20:47] <debfx> especially not without overriding the version of the binary packages as digikam version != library versions
[20:48]  * yofel just wanted to see if it works
[20:48] <shadeslayer> i installed it in a chroot and it installed fine
[20:49] <debfx> ScottK: has there been a decision about bluedevil 1.2?
[21:27] <ScottK> debfx: I'd say go for it.
[21:27] <ScottK> The reasons I said to hold have have been addressed in 1.2.1.
[21:27] <ScottK> afiestas will be sad if we don't.
[21:28] <afiestas> Well, I will maintain 1.1 for one more year
[21:28] <afiestas> but yeah, the 1.2 changelog is quite interesting to make an exception imho
[21:28] <afiestas> and of course you knwo that any problem will be fixed within a week or so
[21:32] <debfx> afiestas: you said something about a libbluedevil patch? do we need to cherry-pick that one?
[21:34] <debfx> ah
[21:36] <debfx> afiestas: nevermind, I've read your kubuntu-devel post
[21:36] <apachelogger> debfx: it is in .1
[21:39] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you be famous http://i.imgur.com/nWmt8.png
[21:41] <debfx> apachelogger: is there a new libbluedevil release or are you mixing up bludevil with libbluedevil?
[21:41] <apachelogger> I do not compute the question
[21:42] <apachelogger> debfx: there is a patchy for libbluedevil
[21:42] <apachelogger> and there is pletny of patchy for bluedevil which turned into bluedevil 1.2.1
[21:44] <debfx> oh whatever, I'll package bluedevil 1.2.1 and add the libbluedevil patch
[22:11] <ScottK> debfx: Thanks.
[22:20] <debfx> ScottK: I've uploaded both
[22:20] <ScottK> Cool.  Thanks.
[22:38] <apachelogger> bulldog98, shadeslayer: http://i.imgur.com/RaqVr.png http://i.imgur.com/ZpSqi.png http://i.imgur.com/TMFR3.png
[22:38] <apachelogger> makig UIs with qt quick is fun
[22:38] <apachelogger> (except for the dreadful flickable element brrrrr)
[22:57] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/Msoym.png
[23:43] <BarkingFish> Morning all.  Anyone know what's happened to Dolphin in the latest round of updates?  A function that I used to have available has vanished, and I'm desperate to get it back again if I can.
[23:44] <BarkingFish> When you right click on a file, you can still cut / copy / paste - but there used to be a facility for Copy to... with submenus, or Move to..., again with submenus for selecting where.
[23:44] <BarkingFish> If I still have it, I'll be danged if I can find it.
[23:52] <claydoh> BarkingFish: you set that in its settings under general >> context menu
[23:52] <claydoh> oops this should be in #kubuntu for support
[23:53] <BarkingFish> ah.  I never had to do that on the previous version of Dolphin, claydoh - I can only assume the new version disables it by default.
[23:54] <BarkingFish> Sorted.  Would this be something KDE have switched off by default, or does it default to that in our package of it?
[23:54] <claydoh> don't think its ever been default - I have always have to set it, though I usually keep my kde settings backed up and restore those so I don't usually have to
[23:55] <claydoh> iirc most of our settings sre kde defaults
[23:55] <BarkingFish> claydoh - I never had to enable it in my last version of Dolphin, it was there by default from a fresh install of Kubuntu 11.04
[23:55] <BarkingFish> I only installed 11.04 on this machine a week ago.
[23:56] <claydoh> dunno,. i always have to set it, but as I said, I normally restore my kde settings in a fresh install