| jwrigley | hi ppl, is there some easy way to install the packages of lubuntu in ubuntu? | 00:42 |
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| Unit193 | Are you looking to replace Ubuntu with Lubuntu? | 00:43 |
| Unit193 | Are you using 11.04? | 00:43 |
| jwrigley | yes to both questions | 00:43 |
| jwrigley | but preferably without reinstalling | 00:44 |
| Unit193 | !purelxde | 00:44 |
| ubot5 | If you want to remove all !KDE, !GNOME and !XFCE packages and have a default !Lubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde » | 00:44 |
| Unit193 | Or just sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends | 00:45 |
| jwrigley | thanks, that was just it, I was just looking for it under tasks, thanks! | 00:47 |
| Unit193 | Awesome, have a great convert ;) | 00:48 |
| jwrigley | thanks :) | 00:49 |
| silverarrow | hi | 03:22 |
| silverarrow | is there any known conflicts that affects windows media plugin? | 03:22 |
| daniel__ | hey :) is there a way to generate (manually) thumbnails for PCManFM, the filemanager? | 04:52 |
| daniel__ | i need thumbnails from my raw camera photos | 04:52 |
| jmarsden | daniel__: Do you know specifically what file format you need the thumbnail images to be in? | 04:53 |
| silverarrow | how do you go about checking plugin conflicts in gnome mplayer? | 04:54 |
| daniel__ | i just need to know where PCManFM stores the thumbnails so i can use imagemagick to create the thumbnails :) | 04:55 |
| silverarrow | I think I must have some kind of winlib32 trouble | 04:56 |
| silverarrow | libwin32 | 04:56 |
| jmarsden | daniel__: OK... so you can probably just get pcmanfm to create one and do something like find ~ -mtime -1 to see all files created in the last day... or you can read the pcmanfm sources to see what it does. I'll see if it is easy to find out... | 04:56 |
| daniel__ | jmarsden, ah nice idea, thanks | 04:56 |
| jmarsden | daniel__: You're welcome. | 04:57 |
| silverarrow | mplaye /gecko used to stream fine, but after an update something went wrong. It works for most stuff, but not online tv | 04:59 |
| silverarrow | I am searching for a way to tackle what I imagine is some kind of plugin / update conflict | 04:59 |
| silverarrow | any idea? | 04:59 |
| jmarsden | daniel__: Looks like ~/.thumbnails/ is the place you seek. | 04:59 |
| daniel__ | uh, but with weird names, i guess it's using some sort of hash name | 05:00 |
| jmarsden | silverarrow: Remove all plugins. See if issue is now gone. add them back one at a time, testing each time. Then you will know which one causes the problem. | 05:00 |
| silverarrow | sounds good | 05:01 |
| silverarrow | I am afraid some of my terminal install stuff might not be showing in package manager | 05:01 |
| silverarrow | me and terminal is a bit like shots in the dark | 05:02 |
| jmarsden | daniel__: Indeed. You'll need to read the pcmanfm sources to figure out how it is hashing the filenames, I suspect. Or you could just let pcmanfm generate them insyead? | 05:02 |
| silverarrow | i suppose terminal maneuvering is classified under dark arts | 05:02 |
| daniel__ | jmarsden, pcmanfm doesn't support ".cr2" raw files, it seems :-/ | 05:02 |
| jmarsden | silverarrow: Then don't play russian roulette, (a) learn more about Linux and (b) ask for help before using the terminal! | 05:02 |
| silverarrow | yeah that might be the ideal order of things, but I am afraid I learn rather randomly by trying and failing | 05:04 |
| jmarsden | daniel__: Ah, OK. That would make sense. I think there is a special library for handling raw files, and I would guess pcmanfm does not link to it. | 05:04 |
| jmarsden | silverarrow: Then at least learn by randomly trying and doing things that are listed in a Linux tutorial :) | 05:04 |
| silverarrow | promise | 05:05 |
| daniel__ | jmarsden, indeed. i installed that (libraw) and that's why i could use other apps to create thumbs. Will check if md5 crc works + imagemagick convert ;) | 05:05 |
| silverarrow | I can boot much the same set up of gnome mplayer and gecko in puppy linux, so I know it still works technically | 05:08 |
| silverarrow | puppy linux is not nearly as solid as lubuntu, so it's really not an alternative | 05:08 |
| silverarrow | a bit flimsy and erratic os | 05:09 |
| silverarrow | where has 525 download gone? | 05:12 |
| silverarrow | sorry | 05:12 |
| jmarsden | daniel__: I think you need to look at the code in libfm/src/base/fm-path.c, the function fm_path_hash() | 05:12 |
| silverarrow | is there a way to list plugins or setups in terminal ? | 05:13 |
| daniel__ | thanks alot | 05:13 |
| jmarsden | daniel__: You're welcome. | 05:13 |
| silverarrow | I am wondering about the rumors of a lubuntu release in october | 05:13 |
| daniel__ | jmarsden, there's nothing better than open source where you can just take a look at the source :) | 05:13 |
| daniel__ | silverarrow, lubuntu will release at the same time ubuntu releases | 05:14 |
| jmarsden | silverarrow: They had better not be just rumours :) Lubuntu 11.10 will come out along with all other official Ubuntu flavors :) | 05:14 |
| silverarrow | lubuntu is the one I like best these days | 05:15 |
| jmarsden | silverarrow: There probably is a way to list plugins, but it depends how gnome-mplayer handles them, and I am not familiar with it at anywhere close to that kinds of detail. | 05:15 |
| silverarrow | Regular Ubuntu runs fine on my new laptop, and totem is good | 05:15 |
| silverarrow | yes it is a trick thing | 05:16 |
| silverarrow | and made even more foggy when I cannot remember what I installed extra | 05:16 |
| jmarsden | daniel__: Re open source... that is why I spend so much time with Linux and open source, and have since 1992 :) | 05:16 |
| jmarsden | silverarrow: Oh, to see what packages you installed? look in /var/log/dpkg* for that. | 05:17 |
| silverarrow | thanks | 05:17 |
| jmarsden | silverarrow: Or use dpkg -l | grep ^ii for a list of currently installed packages, so maybe dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep mplayer might help?? | 05:18 |
| silverarrow | var? | 05:18 |
| silverarrow | I'm in filemanager, showing hidden | 05:19 |
| jmarsden | silverarrow: /var is a directory in Linux... /var/log is where the log files are. /var/log/dpkg.log is the current log of what dpkg has done on your machine. | 05:19 |
| jmarsden | I just use the shell, filemanagers are not much use to me, even though I spend a bit of time helping out with pcmanfm sometimes :) | 05:20 |
| jmarsden | silverarrow: So I would do less /var/log/dpkg.log to see the current dpkg log file, for example. No file manager needed. | 05:21 |
| silverarrow | thanks, found it ;- ) | 05:21 |
| silverarrow | terminal gave an enormous list | 05:21 |
| jmarsden | I said /var/log/dpkg* .... does ls /var/log/dpkg* give "an enormous list" ?? Really? | 05:22 |
| silverarrow | http://pastebin.com/4ZmtcTQm | 05:24 |
| jmarsden | That's not a list of files, that is the contents of one file :) | 05:25 |
| silverarrow | oh, there is a difference? | 05:25 |
| jmarsden | silverarrow: do ls /var/log/dpkg* and then do less /var/log/dpkg* to see the difference. | 05:25 |
| jmarsden | The first lists the files matching that pathname/filename, the second reads them using less. | 05:26 |
| jmarsden | Now you can reduce the amount of info you need to read, using grep... something like grep mplayer /var/log/dpkg.log for example. | 05:27 |
| jmarsden | To further reduce that, you could decide you only care about "status installed" entries, and so do grep mplayer /var/log/dpkg.log |grep "status installed" | 05:28 |
| jmarsden | Usual normal searching for strings in text files, in other words. | 05:29 |
| silverarrow | nothing much turns up | 05:29 |
| jmarsden | Ok, so what kinds of names do your plugin packages have? Maybe thet do not have "mplayer" in their names? | 05:29 |
| silverarrow | except dpkg -l | grep ^ii resulted in a lot | 05:30 |
| jmarsden | Well, that's a list of all installed packages, so that should be a lot :) | 05:30 |
| silverarrow | they should have mplayer in their name, at least some of them, or perhaps gecko | 05:30 |
| silverarrow | my windows media plugin keeps crashing | 05:31 |
| silverarrow | it's a message I get in browser | 05:31 |
| jmarsden | So what package is it, do you have any idea? And if so, uninstall it and see if the problem goes away :) | 05:32 |
| silverarrow | I have of course the lubuntu restriceds found in package manager | 05:33 |
| silverarrow | then I think I went for some medibuntu packages | 05:33 |
| silverarrow | which might be the main stuff | 05:34 |
| silverarrow | I have the plugin for mplayer and gecko in browser | 05:34 |
| jmarsden | You need the *name* of the package... | 05:36 |
| silverarrow | http://imagebin.org/173041 | 05:38 |
| silverarrow | I need to get more clever at this | 05:39 |
| jmarsden | That just says you do not have any other packages installed with mplayer in their names. | 05:39 |
| jmarsden | Do you know *when* you added these plugin packages? Date? | 05:39 |
| jmarsden | if so you can search the dpkg.log by date to find them. | 05:40 |
| silverarrow | about 60 days ago or so | 05:40 |
| jmarsden | OK, so look in the dpkg.log file for things installed around July 20th and see if they look like the plugins. | 05:41 |
| silverarrow | it turned out a bit tricky | 05:45 |
| jmarsden | silverarrow: Why? WHat is tricky about reading and searching a text file? | 05:46 |
| silverarrow | http://pastebin.com/Vtccd9Qy | 05:47 |
| jmarsden | That does not look like output from dpkg.log on a particular date. So either I am confused, or you are... ? | 05:49 |
| jmarsden | For example, does grep 2011-07-20 /var/log/dpkg.log |grep "status installed" show you anything relevant? | 05:50 |
| silverarrow | probably me | 05:50 |
| silverarrow | no, it doesn't give any results | 05:53 |
| jmarsden | silverarrow: OK, so hunt for other dates near that one... | 05:53 |
| silverarrow | well I change the moths +/- 1 and nothing changed | 05:54 |
| silverarrow | maybe day | 05:54 |
| jmarsden | If you have to, drop the -20 and see everything dpkg installed in July... | 05:54 |
| jmarsden | You are the one who was complaining about too much output earlier, so I was trying to give you nice exact searches... :) | 05:55 |
| silverarrow | thank | 05:58 |
| silverarrow | sorry, I cannot make them work | 05:58 |
| silverarrow | I need a break | 05:58 |
| silverarrow | and I need to get going too | 05:59 |
| jmarsden | OK... well, we tried :) | 05:59 |
| silverarrow | I shall have to give it a new go when I get home in the evening | 05:59 |
| silverarrow | yes, and thanks for the help | 05:59 |
| silverarrow | I'm sure I we trace things better with a few attempts | 06:00 |
| jmarsden | silverarrow: OK. One lesson to learn: document what you do to your system, especially when it is something unusual like installing non-standard packlages from a non-standard repository... just keeping a text file about what you did would have avoided all this. | 06:00 |
| silverarrow | I will do that next time | 06:02 |
| jmarsden | OK. 11PM here... goodnight :) | 06:02 |
| silverarrow | I think I will do a clean cd install on next lubuntu release | 06:02 |
| silverarrow | good night | 06:02 |
| silverarrow | 8 in the morning here | 06:02 |
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| gilles | hi .. how to i make an application to auto start then OS starts ? | 11:23 |
| gilles | lunbutu 10.4 | 11:23 |
| bioterror | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ#How_I_can_autostart_a_program_when_logging_in_to_Desktop | 11:24 |
| bioterror | urxvtd is just an example | 11:24 |
| bioterror | if you dont have a .desktop file for your desired application, you can make one | 11:25 |
| gilles | ok .. im new so this sounds complicated for me already | 11:27 |
| gilles | i have downloaded a program | 11:27 |
| gilles | teamviewer | 11:28 |
| gilles | want it to start | 11:28 |
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| gilles | hpw do i upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04 withouth formatting ? | 12:23 |
| gilles | ? | 12:28 |
| m6locks | does apt-get dist-upgrade work in lubuntu? | 12:31 |
| m6locks | at least using update manager one should be able to upgrade | 12:32 |
| m6locks | gilles: have you tried it? system tools -> update maanger | 12:33 |
| gilles | there is no update mngr | 12:33 |
| gilles | in 10.4 | 12:34 |
| m6locks | oh ok | 12:34 |
| m6locks | well i guess it does the same thing as apt-get dist-upgrade | 12:35 |
| m6locks | it does not always work | 12:35 |
| gilles | ok | 12:35 |
| gilles | how to i get an application to start up with my system | 12:35 |
| gilles | was looking only .. but to get a desktop config file .. | 12:35 |
| gilles | im not sure .. im new | 12:35 |
| gilles | its updating now .. | 12:36 |
| m6locks | good luck :D | 12:36 |
| gilles | thx .. | 12:36 |
| gilles | how to i get an app to auto start with my os ? | 12:36 |
| gilles | like start up in windows | 12:36 |
| m6locks | you need a boot manager, grub or LILO are the most used | 12:37 |
| gilles | ok ? and i need little more details | 12:37 |
| gilles | on how to get it to work | 12:37 |
| m6locks | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot | 12:37 |
| m6locks | something like that | 12:37 |
| gilles | i meed like when the os boots .. once on desktop .. it loads terminal for example automatically | 12:38 |
| m6locks | oh ok | 12:38 |
| m6locks | the are a variety of programs, also you can enter the executing commands straight to boot scripts | 12:40 |
| gilles | ok programs would probably more easier | 12:41 |
| m6locks | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75749 | 12:41 |
| m6locks | desktop session settigns does not seem to have selecting your own applications available | 12:45 |
| m6locks | like in ubuntu | 12:45 |
| gilles | i know .. what are you using ? | 12:55 |
| m6locks | lubuntu 11.04 | 12:56 |
| m6locks | on asus eee pc 700 | 12:56 |
| gilles | can you start up apps ? | 13:15 |
| gilles | wit hthe desktop ssession | 13:15 |
| giuseppe__ | ciao | 15:27 |
| giuseppe__ | i'm italian | 15:28 |
| giuseppe__ | how can I set the display resolution LCD 15.6 HD? | 15:29 |
| giuseppe__ | help me | 15:29 |
| giuseppe__ | please | 15:31 |
| giuseppe__ | i need help | 15:32 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | giuseppe__: lxrandr | 15:37 |
| giuseppe__ | 1366 x 768 is not my settinh | 15:38 |
| giuseppe__ | setting | 15:38 |
| giuseppe__ | i need to set 1800x 1200 | 15:38 |
| giuseppe__ | <JohnDoe_71Rus i must to install catalyst driver? | 15:40 |
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| m6locks | so... | 19:51 |
| m6locks | any ideas what packages to remove to make space? I'm running out of it | 19:52 |
| m6locks | the base install is a wee bit too big for this eee pc system | 19:52 |
| bioterror | m6locks, there's not that much packages to be removed | 20:01 |
| bioterror | m6locks, if you're really low on space, you could install ubuntu from mini.iso and then install just lubuntu-core and pull what ever you need | 20:02 |
| GTRsdk | m6locks: what don't you need? | 20:02 |
| Unit193 | You could go on a du -h rampage in your /home/user :P | 20:04 |
| bioterror | I remember when I had my redhat on 4GB deathstar hdd, I usually first removed man pages :D | 20:05 |
| m6locks | well there are some applications I don't need, I was wondering if I could get rid of some 'useless' libs and stuff | 20:14 |
| bioterror | remember to run apt-cache clean sometimes too | 20:15 |
| m6locks | thanks for tip, will do | 20:15 |
| m6locks | hmm invalid operation clean | 20:16 |
| bioterror | sorry, apt-get clean | 20:17 |
| m6locks | oh all right | 20:17 |
| m6locks | I'd really love to see a LXDE version of eeexubuntu, with 11.04 repositories | 20:19 |
| m6locks | but I guess they don't develop it anymore | 20:19 |
| m6locks | I could fit it in 1,7G, but it didn't have chromium or other cool features | 20:20 |
| m6locks | well, the 7.10 version at least | 20:21 |
| phillw | m6locks: you could try minimal install and lubuntu-core. That is about as small as lubuntu can get. | 20:25 |
| m6locks | well this is minimal install, and it was some 2,7G or so | 20:25 |
| m6locks | hold on, minimal install on ubuntu or lubuntu? | 20:26 |
| bioterror | !mini | 20:27 |
| ubot5 | The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 20:27 |
| phillw | m6locks: minimal install puts linux on, and little else. you can then add to it. Instead of lubuntu-desktop, just add lubuntu-core. From there you can add what you need | 20:27 |
| m6locks | hmm ok, it should have xmodmap available, I have this keyboard issue with this one | 20:28 |
| m6locks | alt gr turns on without pressing the key, so it needs to be remapped | 20:28 |
| m6locks | console installs are kinda out of the question | 20:28 |
| bioterror | I mostly need alt gr for @, and during installations that's not needed ;) | 20:30 |
| m6locks | aye, but it is locked on and all I can see after that is greek characters when typing | 20:30 |
| bioterror | :( | 20:30 |
| m6locks | yeah it is totally nerve-wrecking when it happens | 20:34 |
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