[00:23] <g30> hows iric coming along?
[00:23] <TerminX> bah, rebooted one of my oneiric installs for the first time in 3 months today (well.. a lightning storm and the resulting power outage rebooted it) and nothing newer than 2.6.38 will boot without acpi=off
[00:25] <g30> they patch all the 32 bit stuff?
[00:25] <g30> that they broke?
[00:58] <bjsnider> necreo, try starting it from the console to check error msgs
[04:12] <AlecTaylor> hi
[04:12] <AlecTaylor> Grub didn't install... http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5603/screenshot20at202011091.png - what now... LILO?
[04:56] <AlecTaylor> I can't install grub. More info: http://askubuntu.com/questions/62051/unable-to-install-grub - What should I do?
[04:58] <urlin2u> AlecTaylor, can you detail the OS's on the computer, and what got you to this situation?
[05:00] <AlecTaylor> urlin2u: Details are too long to put in IRC, see askubuntu.com post
[05:01] <urlin2u> AlecTaylor, thanks I just looked, run this script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt, use a ubuntu live cd to run it, if you can't get to the install. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[05:04] <urlin2u> AlecTaylor, windows wont boot from a extended without some geeks work I doubt you will find here or on this IRC as well.
[05:07] <AlecTaylor> http://pastebin.com/6mtHBeGd
[05:08] <AlecTaylor> ^boot-info output
[05:13] <urlin2u> AlecTaylor, the disc is sda and your showing sdb as a fail? as well you have some partition errors for example the windows in sda7 says it starts at 2048, so to be honest you have a pretty messed up setup even beyond the no grub install.
[05:15] <urlin2u> windows wont boot from a extended and you have have windows boot mgr and BCD files in several other partitions.
[05:19] <urlin2u> sda6 says it starts at at sector 1097, I would back up what you can and reinstall if you have a install disc, it looks like a oem though.
[05:19] <urlin2u> I mean reinstall the whole HD, so that everything is where it should be and not broken.
[05:23] <cnz> how do you access the user groups in 11.10
[05:24] <urlin2u> cnz, it is in the menu under that name.
[05:25] <cnz> what menu
[05:25] <urlin2u> cnz, you on the unity desktop?
[05:25] <cnz> yes
[05:25] <cnz> I have noticed quite a few bugs too
[05:26] <cnz> been having a lot of issues selecting windows
[05:27] <urlin2u> top button in the left panel I believe I'm in natty right now, as far as bugs your using a development, and we can assume it was a good install here.
[05:27] <urlin2u> or we have to assume.
[05:28] <cnz> urlin2u: I still don't see no listing for user groups
[05:29] <cnz> urlin2u: under that menu
[05:29] <cnz> there is nothing for user groups
[05:30] <cnz> urlin2u: did you see my response?
[05:30] <urlin2u> cnz, did you type it in the search?
[05:30] <jbicha> cnz: you'll probably need to use gnome-system-tools, the built-in User Accounts doesn't do usergroups
[05:31] <cnz> jbicha: there use to be a user groups section in system settings in 11.04
[05:31] <jbicha> cnz: yes, welcome to GNOME 3 :-)
[05:31] <AlecTaylor> urlin2u: So what do I do to fix it?
[05:31] <cnz> jbicha: didn't 11.04 use gnome3
[05:32] <jbicha> install gnome-system-tools and run users-admin
[05:32] <jbicha> cnz: no, it was mostly GNOME 2.32
[05:32] <cnz> oh
[05:33] <cnz> so unity is based off gnome3 in 11.10?
[05:33] <urlin2u> AlecTaylor, that is a fix that I think is way beyond a irc fix, imho, you will have to search for a generous person to fix that, it has problems everywhere.
[05:33] <AlecTaylor> :\
[05:33] <AlecTaylor> Where should I go?
[05:33] <AlecTaylor> ubuntuforums?
[05:34] <urlin2u> AlecTaylor, do you have a external HD and the windows install disc?
[05:34] <AlecTaylor> Yes
[05:34] <cnz> thanks jbicha that worked
[05:34] <AlecTaylor> (well install USB)
[05:36] <urlin2u> AlecTaylor, If it was me since it is so messed up I would back up what you need like music, docs....etc and install the windows correctly in primary partitions, and then the rest in extended, a ntfs in a extended will work fine for windows but not the OS. The ubuntu forums might help.
[05:44] <urlin2u> AlecTaylor, here is the grub2 chroot though the ubuntu partition does show the correct boot files in the script, hard to say though notiv=ce the sudo fdsik-l command to confirm the partitions, and the hd as sda or sdb.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[05:45] <urlin2u> notice*
[05:45] <urlin2u> windows will not boot though I think from the extended, you never know though.
[05:46] <urlin2u> the sda7 windows is missing the bcd file as well, so I doubt it will.
[05:50] <jbicha> I install Windows to a logical partition but I make sure to keep a small primary NTFS partition (75MB seems ok) so that it has something to boot from
[05:54] <sjanssen> I've just done installs and updates on two machines today, and libnss3.so keeps getting borked.  Known issue?
[06:02] <AlecTaylor> urlin2u: I did try some repairs from teh Windows disc
[06:04] <urlin2u> AlecTaylor, and?
[06:07] <urlin2u> AlecTaylor, the good thing about the ubuntu forums is that people really like to help there start a thread post that bootscript, run a new one if you do any more fixes and get some other opinions, the key of using that script is to present it with the computer as is if you run more fixes post a new one.
[08:09] <scoundrel50a> I bought a Lanovo G550-6  laptop with Ubuntu 11.04 and 11.10 preinstalled......a few questions about 11.10 one is where have the Applications and Files & Folders button gone, its not there any more, can I get them back?
[08:09] <ikonia> scoundrel50a: laptops don't have 11.10 pre-installed
[08:12] <scoundrel50a> mine did
[08:13] <scoundrel50a> its from Linux Emporium
[08:13] <scoundrel50a> I'm running it now
[08:14] <scoundrel50a> they installed both on a partition and tested it out before sending it to me
[08:14] <scoundrel50a> so, do you know if I can get the Applications button and Files&Folders button back?
[09:15] <AlecTaylor> hi
[09:16] <AlecTaylor> I have 11.04 installed in logical sda5 ext4, and 11.10 installed in primary sdb3 btrfs. How do I add sdb3 to sda5's GRUB?
[09:40] <necreo> bjsnider: there are no error messages when starting banshee from console, or at least I can't see them because banshee obscures the terminal window and proceeds to freeze the UI, so I can't switch back to the terminal to see any errors
[09:46] <CosmicVoyager> lapion..hey! you are in here too
[09:47] <lapion> yes CosmicVoyager
[09:48] <CosmicVoyager> Does anyone know if I should be able to boot from a USB 3.0 drive with a motherboard with an etron controller chip in version 11.10? Ubuntu 11.04 does not see Entron USB 3.0 drives
[09:52] <CosmicVoyager> lapion "turn on the system and as soon as the booting is initialised, press CTRL-ALT-DEL"? isnt the computer already on if booting is intialized?
[09:54] <CosmicVoyager> lapion ctrl alt delete does not seem to do anything
[09:56] <CosmicVoyager> lapion...ok isee that rebotts the commputer.... how do i know when booting is initialized?
[10:02] <lapion> on my laptop sometimes when I power on my laptop it's doesn't see my external usb drive, after I press ctrl-alt-del it does see it.
[10:05] <CosmicVoyager> lapion...that reminds me..sometimes when i resrat it restarts itself 2 or 3 times..what is it doing?
[10:06] <lapion> do not know that one.. maybe something wrong on one of the internal hdd's or one of the other attached usb-storage media ( be it usb-hdd, be it usb-stic)k
[10:07] <CosmicVoyager> lapion..maybe because it is having difficulty booting from the usb 3.0 drive
[10:07] <Peddy> "Nautilus cannot handle "computer" locations" - is anyone getting this error as well as being unable to see other hard drives or cd-drives?
[10:09] <CosmicVoyager> Is there a way to automatically install the latest alpha?
[10:13] <lapion> CosmicVoyager, my lt doesn't have usb 3.0, I do have a usb 3.0 expresscard, however I need to boot that one with special options because of a the bios date of the laptop
[10:14] <lapion> btw CosmicVoyager are you sure the usb 3.0 isn't on some pci/pci-e card ?
[10:17] <CosmicVoyager> lapion..yes it is part of the motherboard...it is a P61-USB3-B3 motherboard with two USB 3.0 slots using an etron controller chip on the motherboard
[10:18] <CosmicVoyager> i have the mothe board open on my desk
[10:18] <CosmicVoyager> no case
[10:19] <Peter_Bilt> is it possible to reboot without going back to bios?
[10:20] <Peter_Bilt> using int19 to boot?
[10:36] <kholerabbi> Hi guys, what's the best method to upgrade from 11.04?
[10:38] <Stanley00> kholerabbi: delete all your old config, and run "do-release-upgrade -d"
[10:38] <kholerabbi> Stanley00,  "old config"?
[10:39] <kholerabbi> do you mean PPAs etc?
[10:39] <Stanley00> like .config .gnome* , etc in your home folder
[10:39] <kholerabbi> Stanley00, is that necessary?
[10:39] <kholerabbi> o.O
[10:41] <Stanley00> kholerabbi: I dont know, you can just leave them there, do upgrade, and if something went weird, you can try delete that then
[10:41] <kholerabbi> Stanley00, hmm, okay I'll have a look through and see want can be deleted without removing important stuff. Thanks!
[10:42] <Stanley00> kholerabbi: good luck ;)
[10:57] <Q-FUNK> am I the only one who got bitten by Bug #852887   upon upgrading from Natty?
[11:15] <gnomefreak> anyone one know if flgrx has been fixed?
[11:48] <gnomefreak> is it just me or did gmail signin page change :(
[12:05] <gnomefreak> seems there is still no way to set screensavers
[12:05] <gnomefreak> and now i lost the applications icon from launcher
[12:12] <karlhunt> the easiest way is to use unetbootin from windows
[12:13] <karlhunt> or use virtualisation software to boot the live cd and use the startup disk creator in ubuntu
[12:20] <jmux> Hi. I've just upgraded and my client fails to setup Network, because dbus system service isn't started. There seems to some problems between /run and /var/run setup (rpcbind also fails), as some services expect to find their data in /var/run, but it's actually in /run.
[12:21] <karlhunt> jmux, my system broke when i upgraded so i just reinstalled
[12:21] <jmux> Can someone please pastbin the default oneiric fstab setup?
[12:22] <karlhunt> hang one
[12:22] <karlhunt> on
[12:23] <jmux> karlhunt: Reinstalling is no option. I've alwayes updated the system since pre-Dapper and I guess it's just a fstab problem. I didn't want to "mount --bind" /run on /var/run
[12:23] <karlhunt> !pastebin
[12:24] <karlhunt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/692992/
[12:24] <karlhunt> jmux, why is reinstall not an option? If the system is critical why are you upgrading to a beta release?
[12:25] <karlhunt> All my data is cloud based these days so I can reinstall and be up and running in an hour
[12:26] <jmux> karlhunt: Thanks - it's not that critical, but I simply don't want to resetup everything. Too many own packages and local installed software :-)
[12:27] <karlhunt> I reload so often i have written and install bash script that does a mass install of everything i use. I store it in dropbox so as soon I have installed i run it
[12:28] <karlhunt> my email is gmail and my files are all in dropbox
[12:28] <karlhunt> the only thing i keep on my driver are vdi
[12:28] <karlhunt> *drive
[12:28] <jmux> And I should be able to fix the actual problem. I have some perl scripts which show me modified config files and unsupported packages (packages not in the archive anymore) which I used to fix the usual update problems.
[12:29] <jmux> Just this time I couldn't find anythin - even nothing in the oneiric.tar.gz update package
[12:33] <jmux> I don't have internet, but I have a local Ubuntu repository (and I'm developing for Ubuntu LTS at work), so if things fail on update, I want to know what's going on, as I might need this knownledge for our next LTS upgrade (or any update in between). Learning by trial and error.
[12:45] <psypher246> hello all, I have just updated my oneiric install in virtualbox and have discovered that the unity panel reveal hot corner no longer works. please tell me that this is a bug and not a feature. it will drive me and i'm sure thousands of people insane that you have to wait for the panel to appear instead of it beingh instant
[12:48] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[13:29] <karlhunt> psypher246, it is indeed a feature the button has moved from the top bar to the side tray that is hidden
[13:30] <psypher246> karlhunt: yeah but how do you revela the panel then?
[13:34] <psypher246> karlhunt: I have a serious problem with not being bale to instantly reveal the panel with the hot corner
[13:37] <sagaci> psypher246, yeah, it's one of those things I wish was still there
[13:38] <psypher246> sagaci: Look I am one of the biggest fans of unity and where it's going but removing that feature is retarded
[13:38] <psypher246> it's something I uses a hundred times a day
[14:10] <jmux> Ok - after cleaning up some old mess - is it possible that /var/run is now a symlink to /run? /etc/network/run is now a symlink to /run/network, but I have my networking state in /var/run/network...
[14:27] <wiggin> hello
[14:27] <wiggin> can someone give me a hand?
[14:27] <wiggin> i can't seem to be able to stop my screen from tuning off in oneiric
[14:28] <wiggin> does anyone have any ideea?
[14:28] <wiggin> turning*
[14:30] <wiggin> hello
[15:10] <jmux> Can someone please check, if /var/run is now a symlink to /run?
[15:11] <bjsnider> jmux, affirmative
[15:11] <ikonia> that wouldn't be very fhs complient
[15:13] <jmux> Ok - this explains, why network and some other system services fail after upgrade to oneiric
[15:14] <jmux> At least some networking stuff creates their run states in /run but tries to look for the stuff in /var/run
[15:20] <jbicha> jmux: what would that make it fail? the symlink is there so that it still works
[15:20] <jbicha> *why would
[15:21] <jmux> jbicha: not on my system. I upgraded from natty to oneiric and /var/run was still a directory.
[15:22] <jbicha> jmux: are you sure? did you try ls -l /var
[15:23] <jmux> Yes - I just deleted /var/run and created the symlink.
[15:24] <jmux> jbicha: Now the system boots fine
[15:26] <jmux> With /var/run a directory, many processes fail, because theiy expect their data in /var/run by it was craeted in /run (dbus, rpcbind).
[15:35] <jmux> jbicha: I've just seen that base-files.postinst tries to "migrate" the directory, but it just tries to "rmdir /var/run; ln -s /run /var/run", which will fail on any old system in use (AFAIK old systems have a tmpfs on /var/run). Same for /var/lock.
[15:37] <jbicha> jmux: did you reboot after upgrading base-files?
[15:37] <jbicha> if so, you're welcome to file a bug or complain about it in #ubuntu-devel or something
[15:41] <bjsnider> jmux, how old is the system?
[15:42] <jmux> jbicha: yes - I did a reboot (with dbus and network and other services failing). I upgraded this system since pre-Dapper, so I'm not sure, which is the origin of the problem.
[15:48] <bjsnider> jmux, what was the upgrade path you used. was it natty to oneiric?
[15:48] <jmux> bjsnider: The system is about 5-6 years old.
[15:48] <jmux> Yes - all the upgrades since Dapper.
[15:52] <jmux> But I normally run the Upgrades offline by editing the <release>.tar.gz (or sources.list during update, when it was possible) and running with a file:// sources list, as I have a local Ubuntu mirror.
[15:53] <vega-> how do i disable the "guest" user in lightdm
[15:53] <vega-> it doesn't remember my last logged in username
[15:54] <vega-> ie. always defaults to guest and i have to do a mouseclick and type my name
[15:56] <jbicha> vega-: add a line "allow-guest=false" to /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[16:05] <jmux> Can anybody with a Natty system check, if /var/run and /var/lock are tmpfs mounts?
[16:43] <tardis> jmux: yes, they are
[16:48] <jmux> tardis: Thanks. I'll file a bug report for natty => oneiric upgrade against base-files.
[16:49] <h00k> So, I probably missed this conversation as I'm sure it's been had...
[16:49] <h00k> are...screensavers forlorn?
[17:02] <cnz> for some reason when I try to install the flash plugin
[17:02] <cnz> it starts the install then stops
[17:02] <cnz> and it won't install
[17:06] <nhaines> h00k: yes, they were removed in GNOME3 as a useless feature that nobody should be using.
[17:06] <Pici> :(
[17:06] <h00k> I use them :(
[17:06] <h00k> It's weird without one.
[17:06] <nhaines> Me too.  :(
[17:07] <Pici> You should still be able to use xscreensaver.
[17:07] <nhaines> But GNOME says you shouldn't be using one and you should feel bad about it.
[17:08] <tardis> h00k: why? just have your monitor turn off and stop wasting power
[17:08] <h00k> I found this and replies: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-shell-list/2011-March/msg00335.html
[17:09] <h00k> tardis: because I like them, and it was slightly quicker to resume from screensaver than to have my monitor power on again
[17:10] <tardis> h00k: GNOME knows what you like better than you, and "active, no screensaver or poweroff" => "inactive, poweroff" is a perfectly reasonable state.
[17:11] <h00k> I'm going to miss my floating feet, ubuntu logos, or Electric Sheep.
[17:12] <h00k> although if I *require* one, I'd just use xcreensaver now, I suppose.
[17:12] <cnz> so anyone know how to fix a broken flash install?
[17:13] <h00k> cnz: what's 'broken' about it? Can you paste the message?
[17:13] <cnz> h00k: it wono't install
[17:14] <cnz> I click install in ubuntu software center
[17:14] <cnz> the install bar stats then goes away
[17:15] <cnz> could something be corrupt in my .mozilla folder
[17:16] <urlin2u> cnz, FF has a addon called flash aid that will clean things up.
[17:17] <cnz> urlin2u: ok got a link for it?
[17:18] <urlin2u> cnz, notice it is a firefox addon, run from firefox, run the wizard after a restart. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/?q=flash+aid&cat=all
[17:19] <urlin2u> run from I mean install from forefox cnz
[17:19] <cnz> urlin2u: thanks trying it now
[17:22] <h00k> cnz: can you try to run the install command from a terminal?
[17:22] <h00k> cnz: and find out the error message it gives?
[17:22] <IAmNotThatGuy> cnz,if it fails, check whether the Multiarch is enabled on your machine or not
[17:23] <cnz> urlin2u: flash aid fixed it thanks
[17:23] <urlin2u> cnz, cool.
[17:26] <h00k> I wished he would figure out why it failed to install, that way a proper bug could be reported :(
[17:27] <limbas> oso_ubuntu
[17:32] <drussell> is anyone else seeing issues with maximised firefox after some time not being able to right click on links etc?
[17:33] <drussell> also unable to use drop down boxes on forms etc
[17:33] <drussell> un-maximising and re-maximising firefox gets everything working again
[17:34] <drussell> I'm assuming it's unity menu integration that might be causing the problem...
[18:03] <Corey> Sorry, what kernel version is Ocelot running?
[18:03] <Corey> Doh, 3.0.0-9.15
[18:03] <Corey> Disregard me.
[18:04] <genii-around> Hm. 3.0.0-11-generic #18-Ubuntu SMP here..
[18:05] <jtaylor> anyone else using operaß
[18:06] <rww> Corey: Ubuntu kernel version 3.0.0-whatever-is-current is based on 3.0.3, fwiw
[18:06] <jtaylor> I have a weird opera update with the same version number as the one installed
[18:06] <rww> no, I don't know why
[18:07] <jtaylor> not sure if I should install that ..
[18:11] <cnz> ok stupid question, how do I install ssl on ubuntu so I can connect to irc via ssl
[18:11] <jbicha> cnz: what irc client are you using?
[18:11] <genii-around> openssh-server
[18:11] <cnz> irssi
[18:11] <jtaylor> openssh server is something else than ssl
[18:12] <genii-around> Meh, was reading ssl as ssh for some reason there
[18:12] <jtaylor> whatever you need for ssl should be installed by default
[18:12]  * genii-around goes to make more coffee
[18:12] <jtaylor> libssl probably
[18:13] <jbicha> cnz: perhaps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1010780
[18:16] <BigWhale> Greetings.
[18:19] <BigWhale> So, I've been trying to setup python in virtualenv, more precisely python imaging library and it seems that the whole multi-arch is giving me a hard time... anyone has any experience with this?
[18:29] <sianhulo> people, after i installed gnome-shell i haven't been able to run unity
[18:29] <sianhulo> can run unity 2d, but when running 3d, just shows at the top the menu: "file, etc..."
[18:32] <sianhulo> in the log it says http://pastebin.com/GnRdfnpW
[18:37] <bjsnider> sianhulo, are you on nvidia?
[18:39] <sianhulo> bjsnider,  an intel(integrated)
[18:45] <macer1> Unity looks good in 11.10. Maybe I will give it a chance after moving to KDE...
[18:45] <bjsnider> well, it obviously mustbe integrated since there's no such thing as an expansion intel graphics card
[18:46] <jtaylor> upgrade failures at this point suck, a billion gucharmap bugs as nobody checks for duplicates before reporting ...
[18:46] <jtaylor> if you ahve that issue please don't file a bug
[18:46] <jtaylor> bug 853973
[19:09] <Chat7044> test
[19:12] <bjsnider> jtaylor, the libgucharmap-2-90-7 package needs to be deleted since it installs the same files as libgucharmap7
[19:12] <jtaylor> it should be fixed already
[19:13] <bjsnider> you can temporarily fix the issue by manually removing it although it will also pull out the -desktop metapackages
[19:13] <jtaylor> no need to temporarily fix it
[19:16] <bjsnider> it's not available here yet
[19:20] <bjsnider> jtaylor, where's the ml message about the fix?
[19:21] <jtaylor> is there one?
[19:21] <jtaylor> 1:3.1.92-0ubuntu2 should fix it
[19:21] <bjsnider> yeah, there should be
[19:22] <jtaylor> no mail about it in my mailbox
[19:22] <jtaylor> I also don't see why that requires a mail
[19:22] <jtaylor> its not the first time a package in main fails to upgrade
[19:27] <bjsnider> jtaylor, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/oneiric-changes/2011-September/009973.html
[19:27] <bjsnider> every upload gets messaged there
[19:27] <bjsnider> shows what the change was
[19:32] <AlanBell> anyone else finding shutdown not working when running oneiric in virtualbox?
[19:33] <Arv3n> hey all. fglrx drivers are laggy in ubuntu 11.10. in 11.04 i could disable vsync in compiz and it would make things fast
[19:33] <Arv3n> in 11.10 compiz doesnt seem to be used. how would i disable vsync? is this even the problem?
[19:34] <Arv3n> like, for instance, i drag a window and it skips between spots. its not smooth
[19:36] <urlin2u> Arv3n, unity is a plugin in compiz it is used.
[19:36] <Arv3n> is it?
[19:37] <Arv3n> well, i say that because when i was wanting to install ccsm it wanted to install a bunch of compiz dependencies.
[19:37] <urlin2u> Arv3n, they are working together technically thats my best explanation lol
[19:37] <Arv3n> so just install ccsm and disable it like normal then?
[19:37] <Arv3n> i gotcha
[19:38] <Arv3n> no i thought i heard they switched to mutter or something anyway. i wasnt sure
[19:39] <jtaylor> gnome3 is mutter
[19:39] <Arv3n> yeah
[19:47] <blizzow> I'm using fvwm-crystal instead of Unity on my lenovo T420S.  Any time I try and adjust the brightness using (fn+home or fn+end), the computer locks up hard.  I'm afraid to press the volume control buttons.  :(
[19:50] <bjsnider> Arv3n, i don't think you would want to disable vsync, since it would result in a lot of ugly tearing
[19:51] <bjsnider> besides, your refresh rate is probably 60fps which is plenty fast enough to handle compiz's effects
[19:51] <OliveGreen> Hi all.
[19:52] <OliveGreen> Will Ubuntu 11.10 come with Gnome 3.2?
[19:52] <bjsnider> Arv3n, and compiz is used if you are using gnome with unity. mutter is used if you are using gnome with gnome-shell
[19:52] <bjsnider> OliveGreen, affirmative
[19:53] <bjsnider> it currently has a development version leading to 3.2
[19:53] <bjsnider> 3.1.90.1
[19:53] <Arv3n> bjsnider, well how would i make it faster?
[19:54] <Arv3n> like its really annoyingly slow
[19:54] <bjsnider> slow in what way?
[19:54] <Arv3n> that might not even be the problem
[19:54] <Arv3n> like i try dragging a window and it skips and stuff
[19:54] <Arv3n> just generally pretty laggy
[19:54] <bjsnider> is this an old card/chip?
[19:54] <Arv3n> its a low profile 5570 amd hd card
[19:55] <bjsnider> lol, you're kidding me
[19:55] <bjsnider> that should not be slow at all
[19:55] <Arv3n> its not slow
[19:55] <Arv3n> just at certain points its laggy.
[19:55] <Arv3n> i think its vsync
[19:55] <Arv3n> moving windows in particular
[20:01] <wompydompy> hey..i am not able to mount external drives like usb flash drives, flash disks or my ipod touch and i haven't found a bug that really matches..did you hear something about it?
[20:02] <wompydompy> when i plug them in the deja-dub manager starts and wants me to do a backup
[20:05] <graingert> on upgrading to ubuntu 11.10 I have noticed my wireless light flashes
[20:05] <graingert> rather than being red for off blue for on
[20:05] <graingert> it flashes when on
[20:05] <graingert> also installing zsnes still removes ubuntu-desktop and vlc
[20:06] <bjsnider> let me look into that one
[20:08] <graingert> libsdl1.2debian:i386
[20:08] <graingert> seems to remove libsdl1.2debian
[20:08] <graingert> can I not have both?
[20:08] <graingert> bjsnider: thanks
[20:10] <bjsnider> is there a bug about that one?
[20:11] <graingert> bjsnider: I can't see it
[20:12] <bjsnider> ok, could you submit one please? that requires a small packaging change so the i386 doesn't force a chain-reaction like that
[20:13] <bjsnider> ubuntu-bug libsdl1.2debian
[20:13] <graingert> bjsnider: I did ubuntu-bug lbsdl1.2debian:i386
[20:13] <bjsnider> well, good enough
[20:15] <jtaylor> bjsnider: can you provide a patch?
[20:15] <graingert> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsdl1.2/+bug/854196
[20:16] <graingert> I've been wanting zsnes on ubuntu 64bit for _so_ long
[20:17] <jtaylor> 9xsnes works so far I know
[20:18] <graingert> jtaylor: it's not as good though is it?
[20:18] <jtaylor> I use it since ~ 10 years and never had any issues
[20:18] <graingert> true
[20:18] <jtaylor> well 5 years probably
[20:18] <jtaylor> mmost of that on windows though
[20:19] <OliveGreen> Will Ubuntu 11.10 come with Gnome 3.2?
[20:24] <bjsnider> i think snes9x surpassed zsnes in terms of quality
[20:26] <graingert> really?
[21:12] <graingert> bjsnider: not going to change status? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsdl1.2/+bug/854196
[21:52] <wompydompy> Hey.. if i am not able to access my external drives like usb-dongle, flash card or ipod - under which package should i send in a bug report?
[21:54] <Ian_Corne> I have that too wompydompy
[21:54] <Ian_Corne> just noticed
[21:54] <Ian_Corne> it's a permissions problem
[21:54] <wompydompy> hm..any ideas?
[21:54] <wompydompy> yes..i cannot reproduce it, but at some point the system told me something about permissions
[21:55] <wompydompy> there is a bug related to lightdm but i cannot see any connection
[21:55] <wompydompy> do you?
[21:55] <Ian_Corne> not really
[21:55] <Ian_Corne> and don't have time to check it out
[21:55] <Ian_Corne> gotta sleep
[21:57] <wompydompy> kk..thanks
[21:57] <Ian_Corne> try gksudo nautilus and see if you can mount?
[21:58] <Ian_Corne> to verify permission problems
[21:59] <wompydompy> i cannot see the usb dongle in nautilus
[22:00] <Ian_Corne> k, don't know then
[22:00] <wompydompy> thank you anyway
[22:01] <wompydompy> does anyone else have a similar problem or at least an idea under which package i can fill out a bug report?
[22:02] <jtaylor> do you see your device in dmesg?
[22:02] <jtaylor> if not it may be a kernel issue
[22:15] <wompydompy> jtaylor: yeah i can see it
[22:16] <wompydompy> jtaylor: its assigned as sdb
[22:20] <wompydompy> the usb dongle shows up as an icon in the starter bar but i am not able to open it. I have only the right click possibilities for ejecting and removing safely
[22:29] <pythonsnake> hello
[22:30] <pythonsnake> is this distro bleeding edge ?
[22:30] <pythonsnake> distro version*
[22:30] <pythonsnake> with bleeding edge packages ?
[22:30] <rww> no
[22:30] <pythonsnake> no testing repo?
[22:31] <pythonsnake> hmm.
[22:31] <pythonsnake> whats the kernel version ?
[22:31] <graingert> 3
[22:32] <pythonsnake> 3.0 ?
[22:32] <pythonsnake> or 3.1
[22:32] <rww> 3.0.3
[22:32] <rww> oneiric /is/ the testing repository
[22:32] <pythonsnake> gnome 3 ?
[22:32] <rww> "testing" doesn't mean "crack build"
[22:32] <rww> yes
[22:32] <pythonsnake> can I still have 2 ?
[22:33] <rww> no
[22:33] <pythonsnake> no ? 0_0
[22:33] <pythonsnake> err
[22:33] <rww> no, we don't package obsolete software that's unmaintained upstream
[22:33] <rww> there's GNOME 3 Fallback, that's as close as you get
[22:34] <pythonsnake> hmm
[22:35] <graingert> pythonsnake: try mate
[22:35] <graingert> pythonsnake: if you wante obsolete
[22:36] <pythonsnake> mate is for arch
[22:36]  * rww rolls eyes at mate
[22:36] <pythonsnake> it's not complete
[22:36] <graingert> pythonsnake: well use xubuntu or something
[22:36] <pythonsnake> can I use pacman with ubuntu ?
[22:36] <graingert> pythonsnake: no
[22:37] <pythonsnake> should I get 10 or 4 ?
[22:37] <rww> they can't even keep a server alive, never mind a desktop environment :<
[22:39] <pythonsnake> I'm now using arch, will I have to wipe my home to get ubuntu ?
[22:42] <IdleOne> pythonsnake: no.
[22:42] <pythonsnake> IdleOne: hey
[22:45] <pythonsnake> ok thanks everyone
[23:01] <GTRsdk> help
[23:01] <GTRsdk> I have tried to upgrade
[23:01] <GTRsdk> but it froze
[23:01] <GTRsdk> at... cups: stopping...starting...
[23:02] <graingert> crap
[23:47] <emorris> hi, has anyone had problems with the desktop beta 1 iso being too big to burn?
[23:48] <urlin2u> emorris, the daily is fine. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[23:51] <emorris> ah nuts; shame my internet is slow
[23:54] <urlin2u> emorris, how big is the iso you have?
[23:57] <emorris> urlin2u, 695 MB. I'm burning it to a DVD now, but I was wondering whether this could cause problems for others
[23:57] <urlin2u> emorris that should burn on a cd which is 700, and tyou can overburn.
[23:58] <emorris> urlin2u, I was using CDBurnerXP, so it may be a bug with that
[23:58] <robin0800> emorris, you should be able to burn 700mb no overburn needed I think
[23:58] <urlin2u> if you want to update the iso though you can rsync it or zsync it, without the full download.
[23:59] <emorris> also CDBurnerXP doesn't (AFAICT) support overburn for ISOs
[23:59] <urlin2u> you use ubuntu before?
[23:59] <emorris> urlin2u, yeah, I normally use it, but my current install is broke