[06:47] <dholbach> good morning
[06:48] <ejat> morning
[06:49] <ejat> :)
[07:43]  * popey sighs
[07:43] <popey> http://twitter.com/#!/dslevin does this person actually work for canonical?
[07:44] <popey> http://twitter.com/#!/popey/status/115671832744566784
[07:44] <popey> then I get this:- http://twitter.com/#!/dslevin/status/115672169995960320
[07:48] <dholbach> popey, yes, he is
[07:48] <popey> ☹
[07:51] <AlanBell> how does one get 751 followers by emulating a spambot?
[07:51] <popey> well I followed him
[07:52] <popey> so i guess others must have done the same
[07:52] <popey> no idea when i did it
[07:52] <popey> probably before he started this silly behaviour
[07:56] <kim0> Morning all
[09:03] <czajkowski> popey: wow he comes across as a spammer
[11:42] <Daviey> popey: Can i interest you in a free trial?
[11:49]  * czajkowski hugs Daviey 
[12:32] <ejat> kim0: ping!
[12:56] <kim0> ejat: hey
[12:56] <ejat> can i pm u?
[12:56] <kim0> sure go ahead
[15:43] <jcastro> <---- lunchin'
[15:45] <doctormo> nigelb: ping
[15:53] <akgraner> jono, aq's interview will go up today :-)  I'll mark it as done as soon as it's published
[15:53] <jono> akgraner, woo!
[15:53] <jono> thanks akgraner
[15:54] <akgraner> you're welcome - can't be messing up your burndown charts :-)  /me is scared of you :-P
[15:57] <daker> hello ツ
[16:03] <kim0> daker: hey there
[16:07] <james_w> updating summit with new code, ping me if you see any problems
[16:14] <james_w> done
[16:18] <mhall119> \o/
[16:21] <mhall119> jcastro: ping
[16:21] <jcastro> yo
[16:21] <mhall119> wanna see something cool?
[16:22] <jcastro> sure
[16:22] <mhall119> http://summit.ubuntu.com/api/meeting/?summit=6
[16:22] <jcastro> ok
[16:22] <mhall119> summit now has a read-only RESt/JSON API for all it's schedule data
[16:23] <jcastro> oooh
[16:23] <jcastro> I wonder if the guidebook guys can use this
[16:23] <mhall119> it made more sense for them to consume ical, but they might still be interested
[16:28] <mhall119> look, it's my personal list of sessions from UDS-O: http://summit.ubuntu.com/api/meeting/?summit=5&participant__attendee__user__username=mhall119
[16:29] <jcastro> omg
[16:29] <jcastro> mhall119: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJagxe-Gvpw&feature=player_embedded
[16:29] <mhall119> jcastro: seen it
[16:30] <mhall119> but very funny
[16:30] <mhall119> does it have something to do with summit though?
[16:30] <jcastro> this is how I envision summit started
[16:32] <mhall119> heh
[16:33] <mhall119> jcastro: summit now has 102 unit tests that all pass
[16:33] <jcastro> I said started!
[16:33] <jcastro> not currently
[16:33] <mhall119> :)
[16:33] <jcastro> hey so I can schedule the plenaries now you think?
[16:34] <mhall119> I don't see why not
[16:35] <mhall119> oh, that long standing bug where it'd blow up before you defined a plenary room? Fixed it.
[16:36] <jcastro> nice!
[16:37] <jcastro> I did remember to make that room this time though
[16:37] <jcastro> I usually forget it
[16:37] <jcastro> and then it's broken for a while
[16:37] <jcastro> and then Daviey has to remind me that I need to set a plenary room
[16:40] <dholbach> alright my friends - have a great rest of your day and see you tomorrow
[16:43] <mhall119> jcastro: also, the personal icals now have private meetings in them, but the URL contains a random 32byte hexstring so you can't guess other people's
[16:43] <mhall119> which means you can subscribe to them in your calendar software and get updates when the schedule changes
[16:44] <jcastro> ok so like managers can just add the ical feed to their calendar or what?
[16:44] <mhall119> yup
[16:45] <jcastro> ah, just got the mail from westby
[16:49] <mhall119> jcastro: not mentioned in there is the fact that track colors are now defined in the database through the admin, rather than hard-coded in css
[16:50] <jcastro> oh
[16:50] <jcastro> are they set up to something random or ... ?
[16:50] <mhall119> and possibly some other things, I'm going to write a full blog post
[16:50] <mhall119> jcastro: nothing that fancy, no
[16:50] <mhall119> the default to #FFFFFF
[16:50] <jcastro> oh ok
[16:50] <mhall119> and you set your own
[16:51] <mhall119> it only affects background color, so pick light ones so the text is readable
[16:51]  * jcastro nods
[16:52] <mhall119> I'm also going to work on some documentation for the API in the next week or so
[16:58] <mhall119> jcastro: do we have more rooms that last time?
[16:58] <mhall119> the schedule looks wider
[16:58] <jcastro> I am not sure
[16:58] <jcastro> they feel the same to me
[16:58] <jcastro> the list of rooms looks the same afaict
[17:06] <mhall119> ok
[17:07] <james_w> jcastro, be aware that google calendar only updates from ical every 24 hours
[17:07] <james_w> so it can't really be trusted
[17:07] <james_w> I don't know what to do about that
[17:07] <mhall119> only every 24 hours? wow
[17:07] <daker> a very cool countdown http://dl.dropbox.com/u/164058/oneiricbanner/banner.demo.html
[17:08] <mhall119> daker: that is nice
[17:10] <jcastro> james_w: ok so maybe tell them to use their phones or something instead
[17:10] <jcastro> to sub to that feed I mean
[17:17] <ejat> c00l
[17:21] <jcastro> pleia2: yo yo
[17:23] <pleia2> jcastro: morning!
[17:23] <jcastro> hey so sabdfl can't make openweek due to scheduling conflicts
[17:23] <pleia2> darn
[17:23] <jcastro> so I recommended to clan to ping you about seeing if he might be available for user days instead
[17:23] <pleia2> ok, I'll be on the lookout for it
[17:23] <jcastro> so if you want to ping her to set that up that would be swell
[17:24] <pleia2> ok :)
[17:24] <jcastro> but dang, I just realized that's this saturday isn't it
[17:24] <pleia2> yeah
[17:24] <pleia2> very soon
[17:25] <jcastro> I'll be at a wedding all weekend. :(
[17:26] <nigelb> doctormo: pong
[17:31] <nigelb> jcastro: for a moment I wondered who/what 'clan' was. Then common sense hit me :-)
[17:31] <jcastro> clan of the cave bear
[17:32] <nigelb> haha
[17:34] <jcastro> jono: we're on in ~30?
[18:00] <jcastro> jono: hello?
[18:24] <jono> jcastro, on vacation, remember :-)
[18:24] <jono> heading out now
[18:27] <jcastro> whoa bonus, and when he gets back I go on holiday
[18:27] <jcastro> excellent
[18:27] <nigelb> lol
[19:01] <nigelb> jcastro: what kind of talks are you looking for?
[19:01] <nigelb> strange I should be asking this :P
[19:02] <jcastro> it's in the comments
[19:02] <jcastro> end user things
[19:03] <nigelb> "Using Unity like a Boss" <3
[19:03] <nigelb> So meme-ful.
[19:06] <Pendulum> lol
[19:51] <pleia2> I'm thinking we might get rid of User Days next cycle, it seems like Ubuntu Open Week has changed from being about Ubuntu and teams and more geared toward how-tos and things, duplicating what we're doing in User Days
[19:51] <pleia2> seems a bit silly to have both at this point
[19:54] <nigelb> pleia2: heh, I wwas about to suggest that.
[19:54] <nigelb> And we're running short of volunteers as well :)
[19:54] <pleia2> yeah, if I had known about this change earlier I probably wouldn't have bothered with User Days at all this cycle :\
[19:54] <nigelb> Agreed.
[19:54] <pleia2> I don't remember it being discussed during our classroom stuff session at UDS
[19:55] <nigelb> It was discussed.
[19:55] <nigelb> We agreed not to do it.
[19:55] <pleia2> I know changing the name of it was discussed
[19:55] <pleia2> heh
[19:55] <pleia2> oh well, we'll know for next cycle
[22:38] <jcastro> pleia2: or maybe have UD earlier in the cycle?
[22:39] <pleia2> jcastro: maybe, but it all seems silly now that the events are pretty much identical aside from timing (weekday vs weekend)
[22:39] <jcastro> or we can get rid of openweek
[22:39]  * jcastro evil smiles
[22:40] <pleia2> haha, I see you there, trying to get rid of work
[22:40] <jcastro> >_>
[22:40] <jcastro> <_<
[22:40] <jcastro> but really we have like 4 weeks of IRC workshops now
[22:40] <pleia2> yeah
[22:40] <jcastro> I'm not convinced it's worth the effort
[22:41] <jcastro> like, what can you learn in IRC that you can't ask someplace else?
[22:41] <pleia2> I was just talking to doctormo re: ubuntu-learning about how we should be taking some of this stuff and putting it into documentation (some of the app week stuff in particular is hard for new people to access right now documentation-wise)
[22:42] <pleia2> I keep pointing people to app dev week logs because it's the best stuff, most current we have
[22:42] <pleia2> then we don't need full-fledged week events, just "clean up documentation, tell people about it, show up for a Q&A session about it, maybe"
[22:42] <jcastro> right, I am just saying
[22:43] <jcastro> if we took the effort of making one class and just improved the docs instead
[22:45] <jcastro> it's like, well, I never have time to update the docs, but I sort of kind of self document once a cycle and then spread it over 3 years worth of logs ... does that count?
[22:45] <pleia2> it is a bit odd :)
[22:46] <pleia2> then again, it is the process that any tech team with an assigned tech writer sort of goes through, we just need to go from transcript to a tech writer putting it into wiki format (which was a goal of ubuntu-learning, back when it existed)
[22:47] <pleia2> anyway, something to think about
[22:47] <jcastro> I just thought of proposing to cut down on the IRC workshops for next cycle
[22:48]  * pleia2 nods
[22:48] <jcastro> but then that would be met with resistance I'm sure
[22:52] <nigelb> jcastro: Nah. You will be met with pitchforks and swords and knives. :P
[22:53] <jcastro> "WHAT! I like using the wrong tool for the wrong job."
[22:54] <pleia2> they were cool back when most of our new people knew about IRC, but I get the feeling that attendence has dropped this past year for all sessions as more new people we attract are not so much the IRC type
[22:57] <popey> +1
[23:16] <Daviey> Didn't jono's app try to address that?
[23:16] <pleia2> yeah, but then it broke for a year, we have a fixed version in oneiric
[23:16] <Daviey> didn't really get the adoption it deserved IMO.
[23:17] <pleia2> the current version in most repos doesn't work well, so users got a terrible experience, we just told them to use webchat
[23:17] <Daviey> then we should fix the package :)
[23:17] <Daviey> Is there a bug?
[23:18] <pleia2> there are dozens of bugs, I've been working all cycle on testing the devel version which fixes the major ones
[23:18] <pleia2> we got it in oneiric but not backported to older releases
[23:18] <jcastro> it fixes the wrong problem
[23:18] <pleia2> it'll work in older releases going back to lucid, you just need to install the ppa
[23:19] <Daviey> extra barrier, lets fix it in the archive.
[23:19] <Daviey> unless it's totally unviable?
[23:19] <pleia2> oh no, it works, I can put you in touch with the lead dev, I think we mostly don't know how to fix it in the archive
[23:21] <Daviey> I don't helping and sponsoring of that, if there is a patch that makes it work
[23:21] <pleia2> ok, let me get the emails rolling to see what can be done
[23:21] <Daviey> I'm not sure i have time to do-it-all, but i'm more than happy to mentor and sponsor.
[23:45] <mhall119> Daviey: I freed up all that time you spend on summit and awstrial ;)