[08:59] <czajkowski> tdr112: https://twitter.com/#!/RonanKirby/status/115710418034503680
[09:47] <tdr112> czajkowski: a bit too high of a job for me , but thanks for the link
[09:50] <czajkowski> tdr112: no worries
[09:50] <ebel> suppose email costs so much now-a-days....
[09:50] <ebel> :P
[09:51] <ebel> though suppose there's a lot of M-words in that posting. :)
[12:44] <dumb1224> hi
[12:45] <ebel> hello
[12:45] <dumb1224> Hi I have a question of aptitude
[12:46] <ebel> Ask away
[12:46] <dumb1224> it asks me to remove packages not need after I removed a software called rabbitvcs
[12:46] <ebel> !ask
[12:46] <lubotu3> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[12:47] <dumb1224> thnks I'm fairly new to irc
[12:47] <ebel> Nothing wrong with removing old software packages if they aren't needed anymore
[12:48] <dumb1224> aptitude asked me to also remove subversion{u} python{u} etc about 9 packages which I am using
[12:50] <ebel> hmmm
[12:51] <dumb1224> same happened if I want to remove freenx which is a remote desktop control server
[12:51] <ebel> If you go "sudo aptitude install subversion" then it should remember that you want that installed
[12:51] <dumb1224> it asked me to also remove openssh-server since its not need,,tats not right?
[12:51] <ebel> (aptitude keeps track of things that are installed when you tell it to install the package and when it's installed as a dependency from another package)
[12:52] <ebel> python should be installed by default and shouldn't be removed.
[12:52] <ebel> How did you install openssh-server?
[12:52] <dumb1224> ok...what does the {u} flag mean?
[12:52] <ebel> can't remember what {u} means, miiiiight be "needs upgrade"
[12:53] <ebel> try do an upgrade & dist-upgrade. just to be safe
[12:53] <dumb1224> it was installed before freenx, but freenx requires openssh
[12:54] <dumb1224> you mean upgrade the system to the next release?
[12:54] <ebel> no, not to the next release, just upgrade all the software
[12:54] <dumb1224> it's quite old, it's an 8.04 lts
[12:54] <dumb1224> oh
[12:55] <ebel> ah
[12:55] <ebel> maybe that's what the {u} means.
[12:55] <ebel> (things need upgrading?)
[12:55] <ebel> you can stay on 8.04
[12:55] <dumb1224> hmmmm right. how do I upgrade a package using aptitude?
[12:56] <ebel> just a normal "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade"
[12:56] <ebel> that'll upgrade all the software, but keep you on 8.04
[12:56] <dumb1224> right I'll give it a try
[13:00]  * ebel goes out for lunch
[13:00] <ebel> ttyl
[13:00] <dumb1224> thanks laters!