[00:00] <akgraner> Let me move some changes over for ya right qucik
[00:00] <akgraner> quick
[00:03] <akgraner> bkerensa, there ya go :-)
[00:04] <bkerensa> kk
[00:04] <akgraner> all the chapters and subheaders :-)  Just remove the ......
[00:04] <akgraner> as you add information to that chapter
[00:04] <akgraner> sorry I thought I had added those already
[00:06] <akgraner> Oh here is another doc I found with some goals on it - thought you all might like to read it - https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AdKZelXU8Y2LZGNrcHRkYmhfNzdoZ2M2cHpmMg&hl=en_US
[00:08] <akgraner> we can update that list of goals....
[00:08] <akgraner> :-)
[00:09] <akgraner> I'll send out a doodle poll tomorrow to the team members who have joined so far and see if can't use some of these goals for blueprints at UDS etc
[00:10] <akgraner> I am so excited :-)   THANK YOU ALL so much!!!!
[00:11]  * bkerensa is adding
[00:11] <bkerensa> :)
[00:12] <bkerensa> why does this google doc not have chat :)
[00:17] <Cheesehead> The LoCo Leader Training Series is interesting. Was this an old UDS proposal?
[00:30] <Cheesehead> Chapter 7: Finally, the After Action Report. I'm very familiar with AARs, but do we want to rename it to something more like Event Review?
[00:31] <akgraner> Cheesehead, we can :-)
[00:31] <akgraner> I used another document I helped write and just modified it
[00:31] <Cheesehead> Of course,
[00:32] <Cheesehead> People look at me funny when I use certain military-based terms.
[00:32] <Cheesehead> They're just not familiar with them
[00:33] <Cheesehead> They are sometimes more familiar with (pompous) equivalents like Continuous Quality Improvement
[00:36] <akgraner> nods
[00:36] <akgraner> :-)
[00:37] <akgraner> I've got the other chapters I modified as well but I wanted to see what the community wanted rather me just adding everything
[00:37] <akgraner> but I can add the other modified chapters if you all want
[00:37] <Cheesehead> What's the source?
[00:38] <akgraner> An FRG manual I helped write
[00:38]  * Cheesehead nods.
[00:38] <akgraner> same issues :-)
[00:38] <Cheesehead> I'm familiar with FRGs.
[00:39] <akgraner> then you noticed the similarities with the style needed and used
[00:39] <akgraner> as well as the skills needed when dealing with all volunteer organizations
[00:39] <akgraner> :-)
[00:39] <Cheesehead> Indeed
[00:40] <akgraner> a lot of people aren't...so I wanted to take out the FRG references and update it LoCo teams first
[00:40] <akgraner> the branch out from there
[00:40] <akgraner> but I'm up for suggestions
[00:40] <akgraner> :-)
[00:40] <akgraner> but I figured we just needed to pick a place and start
[00:40] <Cheesehead> I agree that it's a good starting point
[00:41] <akgraner> I'll be posting weekly leadership tips and stuff
[00:41] <Cheesehead> Posting where?
[00:41] <akgraner> just general leadership principles and stuff
[00:41] <akgraner> on my blog syndicated to the planet
[00:42] <akgraner> until we come up with a blog somewhere else...again - just a place to start
[00:42] <Cheesehead> I think that's a wonderful idea.
[00:42] <akgraner> I figure we can come up with a better solution at UDS and in subsequent meetings
[00:43] <Cheesehead> Better solution to what?
[00:44] <akgraner> if we want an Ubuntu Leadership Blog
[00:44] <akgraner> or just using mine is ok?
[00:44] <akgraner> but for now I'll just volunteer mine :-)
[00:44] <Cheesehead> I don't see a need for a separate blog at this time.
[00:44] <akgraner> me either
[00:45] <akgraner> again just a starting point
[00:45] <Cheesehead> Many teams have blogs that are dormant. really, what do we have to say to the rest of the Planet?
[00:45] <akgraner> nothing that isn't syndicated through one of our blogs already
[00:46] <Cheesehead> Agreed
[00:46] <akgraner> hey I need to run  - my dad had surgery today and I am wiped out  - but I'll catch up with you all tomorrow
[00:46] <Cheesehead> All our best.
[00:47] <akgraner> Thank again you all! :-)  add away
[01:06] <bkerensa> akgraner: How is the part in events I added so far? I'm gonna add much more
[01:07] <Cheesehead> bkerensa:Chapter 7? I quite like it.
[01:13] <bkerensa> Cheesehead: Thanks :) I will be adding a lot more and the akgraner and DarkwingDuck can purge as needed :)
[01:13] <Cheesehead> Well, there's a lot to say, isn't there?
[01:14] <Cheesehead> For example, an After Action Review simply cannot be effectively learned from a book.
[01:14] <Cheesehead> It must be practiced several times before a facilitator is ready to take on a group.
[01:15] <Cheesehead> Otherwise the group may deveolve into blame and name-calling.
[01:15] <Cheesehead> A bit counterproductive.
[01:16] <Cheesehead> But that's an issue for down-the-road.
[01:16] <Cheesehead> In the meantime, I'll do all I can in the book to prevent a Significant Emotional Event
[01:47] <Cheesehead> akgraner: I an unsure that the second GoogleDoc (the Leader Training Series) is on the right track. It seems to be oriented on teaching leadership like a language
[01:48] <Cheesehead> A bit top-down and chalk-and-talk
[01:48] <Cheesehead> (Possibly for that event)
[01:49] <Cheesehead> (Possibly structured so for that event)
[01:51] <Cheesehead> Depending upon the venue and audience, I suspect we can tailor something a bit closer to the audience's needs.
[01:52] <Cheesehead> OK, I'm done blabbing for the night!
[08:29] <NRWlion> morning!
[11:59] <akgraner> morning
[11:59] <akgraner> *yawn*  *blink* *blink*
[11:59]  * akgraner looks for coffee
[17:01] <Cheesehead> Announcement: I'm creating a list of trainable leadership skills. If you think of a skill, please add it to the list. Duplicates are welcome. https://docs.google.com/document/d/13VOmTgEqCzIW8oITV2d5fIRD3xsiKRVMd39OUlpx6xQ/edit?hl=en_US
[17:05] <Cheesehead> One possible use for the list are skill training sessions (for example on IRC)
[17:08] <Cheesehead> Oops, *now* it's editable by you.
[18:59] <DWonderly> akgraner: ping
[19:05] <akgraner> DarkwingDuck, pong
[19:05] <DarkwingDuck> akgraner: any ideas on a meeting?
[19:06] <akgraner> I'll send out a doodlepoll this afternoon
[19:06] <DarkwingDuck> I have not heard anything back about the ML except to use LP
[19:06] <akgraner> to those members on the LP team and blog about it incase other want to join in
[19:06] <akgraner> how's that sound
[19:06] <DarkwingDuck> I explained our wishs of why we didn't want to do that but, I have not heard anything back.
[19:06] <DarkwingDuck> Sounds good to me.
[19:06] <akgraner> I'll jump on the thread as well
[19:06] <akgraner> :-)
[19:06] <akgraner> bbiab
[19:06] <DarkwingDuck> kk