[00:24] <madnick> did someone add the new plymouth theme to the 11.04 images?
[00:24] <madnick> Or did i download the wrong CD
[00:24] <madnick> oh no, i did :P
[00:25] <madnick> well then, might as well, try the Live CD on real hardware for production usage :)
[00:29] <madnick> i broke the keyboard configuration :(
[01:06] <charlie-tca> well, fix it please
[01:24] <charlie-tca> micahg: thanks for your help 
[02:25] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: disregard above comments. I think we got something done that will work. see bug 845549 for comments.
[08:52] <olbi> hello :)
[08:52] <olbi> 3 tests done yesterday
[10:19] <mr_pouit> ugh, the solution chosen in Bug #845549 is... special
[10:20] <mr_pouit> (a package only for only conffile? yay)
[12:40] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: agreed it is ugly, but at least it is a solution.
[12:41] <charlie-tca> I wanted something that let's us get our wallpaper/theme in for beta2
[12:43] <mr_pouit> well, I made another proposal
[12:43] <mr_pouit> I hope he doesn't intend to upload what he described.
[12:49] <charlie-tca> We will find out tonight
[15:41] <micahg> mr_pouit: BTW, xubuntu-default-settings could provide the lightdm conffile
[15:41] <micahg> oh, that would indeed break the second part :(
[15:47] <mr_pouit> micahg: yeah, I though about that as well, but I'm still a bit annoyed by all these conflicts/replaces/provides
[15:47] <mr_pouit> there are enough reasons to break upgrades ,>
[15:48] <mr_pouit> (this one eyed smiley wasn't intended)
[15:48] <micahg> mr_pouit: I didn't suggest that, I suggested using the same system the display managers use
[15:49] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: if you have time, can you look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Development/ReleaseProcess and give any advice?
[15:49] <mr_pouit> micahg: oh, you wrote about the lightdm conffile, not lightm-gtk-greeter?
[15:50] <micahg> mr_pouit: no, I was talking about the greeter
[15:52] <mr_pouit> micahg: but then it would conflict with lightdm-gtk-greeter, and $whatever_name_other_derivatives_use
[15:53] <micahg> mr_pouit: no, you can install gdm and lightdm at the same time, you get a debconf prompt to decide which one to run
[15:55] <mr_pouit> charlie-tca: how many people can update the website? (you might want to notify them sooner, probably T-7, it's not explicitly written, unless I missed it) So that you're sure it's up to date on release day.
[15:55] <mr_pouit> (I remember news for one release were posted a few hours late in the past)
[15:58] <mr_pouit> micahg: ok, I see what you mean.
[15:58] <mr_pouit> as long as it avoids unneeded conflicts everywhere in the packages, I'm happy with any solution ;p
[15:59] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: you are correct. Thank you
[16:00] <micahg> right, I thought my proposal made the most sense as you can install as many as you want and just dpkg-reconfigure to change
[16:01] <mr_pouit> we're probably the only "users" for this bug/use case though (lubuntu stays with lxdm afaik)
[16:02] <micahg> just for this cycle and due to these issues
[16:02] <micahg> there's also mythubuntu and ubuntustudio who would probably like to customize
[16:02] <charlie-tca> yes, most flavours are waiting for us to get things straightened out
[16:03]  * charlie-tca would dare to say Xubuntu is the lightdm guinea pig
[16:03] <mr_pouit> they let us do the painful work, that's nice :)
[16:04] <charlie-tca> It's because they have great respect for mr_pouit and his knowledge
[16:05] <mr_pouit> ahah =]
[16:06] <mr_pouit> micahg: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/oneiric/mythbuntu-lightdm-theme/oneiric/view/head:/debian/postinst looks like mythbuntu didn't wait to do questionable things with dpkg-divert ;(
[16:10] <mr_pouit> micahg: btw, feel free to add a comment with your solution to the bug report, the more (alternate proposals), the merrier :)
[16:12] <charlie-tca> At least I got robert to comment and give us something this time 
[16:14] <mr_pouit> yes, thank you (let's hope he'll continue)
[16:15] <charlie-tca> He will if I push hard enough. He did tell me he wouldn't do anything, first
[18:29] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu community meeting in #xubuntu-devel in 30 minutes. Everyone is invited to attend. Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
[19:00]  * charlie-tca waves... meeting time :)
[19:00]  * madnick reports in
[19:01] <charlie-tca> #startmeeting Xubuntu
[19:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Sep 19 19:01:40 2011 UTC.  The chair is charlie-tca. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
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[19:02] <charlie-tca> #meetingname Xubuntu Community Meeting
[19:02] <meetingology> The meeting name has been set to 'xubuntu_community_meeting'
[19:02] <charlie-tca> The agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
[19:02] <charlie-tca> Reminder:   please use ".." on separate line when you've finished typing.   If someone wants to comment during the updates, please "o/", so we know to wait.
[19:02] <charlie-tca> #topic [19:03] <charlie-tca> suggestion, if you are here for the meeting, use o/ or here or something so we log everyone
[19:03] <madnick> o/
[19:04] <charlie-tca> well, small group with a lot of important things to do!
[19:04] <charlie-tca>  * charlie-tca to get FFe filed for xubuntu-meta to add blueman to seeds
[19:04] <charlie-tca> micahg: did we decide if we need this yet?
[19:04] <micahg> no, sorry, and I know we're getting close to the end here
[19:05] <micahg> after reboot my bluetooth stopped working on my netbook as well, I have to reboot again to verify
[19:05] <micahg> will try to do this week, not happening for beta 2
[19:05] <micahg> ..
[19:05] <charlie-tca> Okay, let's try not to forget then. 
[19:06] <charlie-tca>  * charlie-tca to start a release checklist page for Xubuntu - Done
[19:06] <charlie-tca>    * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Development/ReleaseProcess
[19:06] <charlie-tca> Any one that wants to review that page and let me know what is missing is welcome to.
[19:06] <charlie-tca> #topic [19:07] <charlie-tca> #subtopic [19:07] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: Your turn, sir.
[19:07] <mr_pouit> \o
[19:07] <Unit193> Late, but here
[19:07] <mr_pouit> * New upstream bugfix releases uploaded: libxfce4util, xfdesktop4, xfce4-session
[19:07] <mr_pouit> * Build failures fixed: libxfcegui4, exo
[19:07] <mr_pouit> * Misc uploads: xfce4-dev-tools, xfce4-utils, gigolo, xfwm4
[19:07] <mr_pouit> * micahg converted gimp & catfish to dh_python2 (so probably some space gained on the isos \o/).
[19:08] <mr_pouit> lightdm-gtk-greeter theming issue in progress, maybe :p
[19:08] <charlie-tca> Yay! room for another language, maybe!
[19:08] <mr_pouit> a new bugfix release of thunar is probably being prepared as we speak
[19:08] <micahg> charlie-tca: doubtful, was small, but on the alternates we can probably add one more back
[19:09] <mr_pouit> and I think that's all (micahg, feel free to add anything I forgot)
[19:09] <mr_pouit> ..
[19:09] <charlie-tca> Thank you very much. You developers have been busy this week
[19:09] <madnick> o/
[19:09] <GridCube> :D
[19:09] <charlie-tca> Go ahead, madnick 
[19:09] <madnick> I have a question about some greeter related stuff for the LTS
[19:10] <madnick> Should I save it for "other talk"?
[19:10] <charlie-tca> Oh, go ahead while we have mr_pouit here
[19:10] <madnick> Ok, can we use GTK + Webkit or GTK + mozembed?
[19:10] <madnick> in C ofc
[19:10] <micahg> madnick: mozembed is dead
[19:10] <madnick> oh
[19:11] <micahg> well, for Ubuntu at least :0
[19:11] <madnick> It's a really clean way of making it very themable and also maintainably and changable for other releases
[19:11] <madnick> Easy to theme for artists
[19:11] <charlie-tca> not if it is dead, though
[19:11] <madnick> Webkit is not dead tho
[19:12] <micahg> we have no xulrunner anymore and it's probably not coming back
[19:12] <charlie-tca> what about GTK+webkit? That should be okay, right?
[19:12] <micahg> yeah, but webkit seems heavy for a greeter
[19:12] <madnick> It was 2MB with O3 static linked
[19:12] <mr_pouit> (it's already in the default install fwiw)
[19:12] <micahg> madnick: it's on the images, I have no inherent problem with it expect if it's slow
[19:13] <micahg> *except
[19:13] <madnick> oh okay
[19:13] <madnick> cool :)
[19:13] <micahg> madnick: and we're not static linking :)
[19:13] <mr_pouit> there was a webkit greeter in the eraly versions of lightdm, but apparently it's not included by default anymore
[19:13] <mr_pouit> *early
[19:13] <madnick> yup
[19:13] <madnick> But its doable :P
[19:14] <madnick> at mr_pouit *
[19:14] <charlie-tca> Yeah, lot of changes in lightdm, and more coming :)
[19:14] <charlie-tca> Any other comments/questions for Packaging and Development?
[19:15] <charlie-tca> #subtopic [19:16] <charlie-tca> Thanks to the testers for their efforts Saturday and Sunday. Gnome updates started today.
[19:16] <charlie-tca> We know the images from yesterday are valid, if we have to fall back to them
[19:16] <charlie-tca> Beta2 testing starts tomorrow; please update tests on the QA ISO tracker at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[19:16] <charlie-tca> Beta2 testing requires the long test for Xubuntu, found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/TestingInfo/Long
[19:17] <charlie-tca> Any help with getting these tests done would be greatly appreciated!
[19:17] <charlie-tca> This is the last milestone before we get the final images
[19:17] <GridCube> o/  : beta2 tests days are 20 and 21?
[19:18] <charlie-tca> yes, they are
[19:18] <charlie-tca> Beta2 releases on Thursday, September 22
[19:18] <GridCube> :) ok, 21 is Spring Day so no schools are open :D
[19:18] <charlie-tca> Great!
[19:19] <charlie-tca> Today's images are for smoketesting, which we did, so I did not call for tests today
[19:19] <charlie-tca> They will be rebuilt today/tonight, though
[19:19] <charlie-tca> We are tracking the Oneiric bugs at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Bugs/OneiricOcelot
[19:19] <charlie-tca> Let's make sure we keep adding the bugs to this.
[19:19] <charlie-tca> Any questions or comments for testing?
[19:19] <madnick> o/
[19:20] <charlie-tca> Go ahead, madnick 
[19:20] <GridCube> I'll leave mine for Other Bussiness
[19:20] <madnick> I installed the Oneric image from yesterday, could someone check if:
[19:20] <madnick> Its replicatable to double click on a langauge of the keymap selection and it will never be able to pick another langauge again?
[19:21]  * madnick has ran out of space on hdd for new images
[19:21] <charlie-tca> That seems bad
[19:21] <madnick> will delete some tomorrow
[19:21] <charlie-tca> just go to settings ->Keyboard -> and pick a new one?
[19:22] <madnick> On the install
[19:22] <charlie-tca> oh! in the installer itself
[19:22] <madnick> yes :)
[19:22] <charlie-tca> will try it after the meeting, then
[19:23] <charlie-tca> You should be able to pick a language, and pick a different one, since a bad hit on the keyboard can make you miss the language you wanted.
[19:23] <charlie-tca> Okay, any one else?
[19:24] <charlie-tca> madnick: did you file a bug for that?
[19:24] <madnick> charlie-tca: no sorry, i wanted to see if it was replicatable
[19:24] <charlie-tca> That's okay. It is good to get it verified
[19:24] <charlie-tca> #subtopic [19:24] <GridCube> o/
[19:24] <charlie-tca> pleia2: your turn
[19:25] <charlie-tca> knome: you here?
[19:25] <charlie-tca> well, I am.
[19:26] <charlie-tca> The wordpress site has been approved. We are now in the process of converting http://xubuntu.org from drupal to wordpress
[19:26] <charlie-tca> We should have the site converted in time for final release of Oneiric
[19:27] <charlie-tca> We need a good news article for Beta2 release Thursday
[19:27] <charlie-tca> We also need release notes written up for beta2
[19:28] <charlie-tca> any volunteers?
[19:28] <madnick> I am terrible at english :( Unfortunetly
[19:28] <charlie-tca> madnick: was the issue with live session or install from the menu?
[19:28] <GridCube> i can't log to irc from work, so no :(
[19:28] <madnick> charlie-tca: live session
[19:29] <madnick> wait sorry
[19:29] <madnick> It was the install directly from the boot menu
[19:29] <madnick> But yes, a live image
[19:29] <charlie-tca> Okay
[19:29] <charlie-tca> Any questions on website?
[19:29] <GridCube> o/
[19:30] <GridCube> Someone needs to review the top 10 FAQ to see if they are ok, and no dangerous things are in them, also check question 10 for the help links that i dont know
[19:30] <charlie-tca> GridCube: go ahead
[19:30] <charlie-tca> #action verify top 10 FAQ and check help links in 10
[19:30] <meetingology> ACTION: verify top 10 FAQ and check help links in 10
[19:31] <charlie-tca> Thank you for the reminder, GridCube 
[19:31] <GridCube> :)
[19:31] <GridCube> ..
[19:31] <charlie-tca> #subtopic [19:31] <charlie-tca> ochosi: any update?
[19:31] <GridCube> o/ 
[19:31] <charlie-tca> go ahead, GridCube 
[19:32] <GridCube> i know this is a very late thing to ask but
[19:32] <GridCube> its posible to update the shipped wallpapers? or we have had to do that long before?
[19:32] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: ^ ^
[19:32] <GridCube> its cool to have new wallpaper to atract people
[19:33] <charlie-tca> madnick: not a bug
[19:33] <GridCube> and i don't think its so hard to choose a few from a free repositorie
[19:33] <GridCube> ..
[19:33] <madnick> charlie-tca: okay :)
[19:34] <charlie-tca> it lets me choose fillipino and then go back to english
[19:34] <madnick> charlie-tca: you double clicked right?
[19:34] <madnick> Not just 1 click
[19:35] <charlie-tca> depends on the language, perhaps. I am now stuck in Kyrgyz
[19:35] <charlie-tca> but I hit continue and went back
[19:35] <charlie-tca> file the bug, I will confirm it
[19:35] <madnick> Okay
[19:35] <mr_pouit> GridCube: it might be a bit late, but you should check with ochosi & knome if they have something new/ready
[19:36] <GridCube> ok :)
[19:36] <charlie-tca> I think he wants to change the other ones we supply
[19:36] <GridCube> that is
[19:36] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: he wants to replace the old / supplied wallpaper package
[19:37] <mr_pouit> which ones? from xubuntu, or xfce?
[19:37] <GridCube> the ones that commonly come to choose, if we keep shiping the same ones it would seem we are stuck there, but if we have a bunch of new ones that would be atracting to people?
[19:37] <GridCube> both?
[19:38] <mr_pouit> xubuntu-bluebird-notext.png  xubuntu-bluebird.png  xubuntu-greybird.png  xubuntu-karmic-gdm.png  xubuntu-karmic.png
[19:38] <mr_pouit> we only ship these ones in xubuntu-artwork
[19:39] <charlie-tca> hm, karmic is probably the only one we could replace, since bluebird is in the lts and greybird is in natty and oneiric
[19:39] <GridCube> I see, so they are all xubuntu-related
[19:39] <GridCube> i remember, from the top of my head, a flower wallpaper in the menu, thats from xfce?
[19:40] <mr_pouit> yeah, the remaining ones are shipped by xfdesktop
[19:40] <micahg> if they're taking up too much space, we could create a xubuntu-artwork-archive or somethign
[19:40] <GridCube> mmkay so we don't have any control over them
[19:40] <mr_pouit> charlie-tca: xubuntu-karmic is also used by lucid, bluebird has only appeared for 10.10
[19:40] <micahg> or xubuntu-artwork-historical
[19:40] <GridCube> micahg: my idea, or question, is to ship more, or different
[19:40] <charlie-tca> Not too much space, just trying to change things up
[19:41] <GridCube> just to spice things up :P
[19:41] <micahg> I'd say add more (why not drop a good thing)...if space is an issue, we can split the historical ones out
[19:41] <charlie-tca> well, play with keyboard selection in the live installer, it will spice you up
[19:41] <micahg> *why drop
[19:42] <charlie-tca> Something to look at for lts?
[19:42] <GridCube> that should be nice :)
[19:42] <GridCube> i think its a very late thing to ask now
[19:42] <charlie-tca> agreed
[19:43] <GridCube> ..
[19:43] <charlie-tca> #topic [19:43] <charlie-tca>  * The next meeting will be on Sunday, 2011-09-25 at 22:00 UTC
[19:43] <charlie-tca>  * Important dates coming up:
[19:43] <charlie-tca>   * We are now in UI Freeze and Beta2 Freeze; archives will remain frozen until final release.
[19:43] <charlie-tca>   * 11.10 Beta2: September 2
[19:43] <charlie-tca>   * 11.10 Final Freeze: September 29
[19:43] <charlie-tca>   * 11.10 Release Date: October 13, 2011
[19:43] <charlie-tca>  * We need to update the Team Reports this week.
[19:43] <charlie-tca> Archive will remain frozen until final release, but we can still get things in
[19:44] <charlie-tca> #topic [19:44] <GridCube> charlie-tca: [16:43] <charlie-tca>   * 11.10 Beta2: September 2  ?¿?
[19:44] <charlie-tca> oops
[19:44] <charlie-tca> make that September 22
[19:44] <GridCube> :P
[19:45] <GridCube> o/
[19:45] <charlie-tca> Thanks for catching that, grid
[19:45] <charlie-tca> Thanks for catching that, GridCube 
[19:45] <GridCube> :D
[19:45] <charlie-tca> go ahead
[19:45] <GridCube> I've been working on a Testing Interface, as you might know, it needs some polishing, but i think its fairly ok so far, I can give the code to you people if you wish to host it on another server, besides of that please tell me what else needs to be worked on.  http://gridcube.netii.net/test/XubuntuTestingsCenter.html In the same topic i've started working on a simple interface to load the proposed tests for a day, so it doesn
[19:45] <GridCube> ..
[19:46] <charlie-tca> It does make adding test results very easy.
[19:46] <GridCube> :)
[19:46] <charlie-tca> I haven't had a chance to really test it yet, but I like the way it looks so far!
[19:46] <GridCube> :D thank you
[19:46] <charlie-tca> We are going to switch from google docs for LTS testing
[19:46] <charlie-tca> we just don't have everything worked out yet
[19:47] <GridCube> oh, in that topic
[19:47] <charlie-tca> yes?
[19:47] <GridCube> there is an api to send the stuff to a google doc
[19:47] <Unit193> I would like to edit things if I make an oopsie and checking to see what others have done also
[19:47] <GridCube> Unit193: it shows what test have been done in a day
[19:48] <madnick> Well, a solution would be to register, without email requirement, but bot protection, Unit193 
[19:48] <GridCube> there is no check part
[19:48] <GridCube> i could figure out how to make a check buffer, It migth not be really hard
[19:48] <charlie-tca> so we could use it to send the results to google doc?
[19:48] <GridCube> we could
[19:48] <GridCube> charlie-tca: yes
[19:49] <charlie-tca> which would allow easy correction and the chance to see all the tests that have been already?
[19:49] <GridCube> but i don't know how we could recover the test that were done in a day
[19:49] <charlie-tca> Let's do that, please
[19:49] <charlie-tca> If they are in google doc, we should be able to look at them directly, shouldn't we?
[19:50] <GridCube> yes... but the confusing part will remain
[19:50] <charlie-tca> well, let's try it
[19:50] <GridCube> the whole idea was to be able to see what test where done in a day in an easy and fast way to not duplicate eforts
[19:51] <charlie-tca> We can use a simple week to set the tests up and not have to change them all the time. They should be the same for each week
[19:51] <GridCube> I will see if i can retrieve the tests from an expecific date using it, it might be posible
[19:51] <GridCube> that can be done, i did that the first timne
[19:51] <charlie-tca> yes
[19:51] <GridCube> now it has particular tests for particular days
[19:51] <GridCube> it also has news for those days
[19:52] <GridCube> we couldnt do that whit week days
[19:52] <charlie-tca> which is what we want, since monday tests are different than tuesday tests, but every monday, the tests are the same
[19:52] <GridCube> yes
[19:52] <GridCube> but what about betas or alphas days?
[19:53] <GridCube> or this past weekend? they had ALL TEST mode
[19:53] <charlie-tca> don't need them specifically different. We just announce through email and here what we are doing for special times
[19:53] <GridCube> ok
[19:53] <GridCube> :)
[19:53] <GridCube> will see what i can learn about the google api
[19:54] <GridCube> hopefully i will be able to set it up 
[19:54] <GridCube> so far i know that i will have to create a new google account for it, it needs user/password to work
[19:54] <charlie-tca> really?
[19:54] <GridCube> yes
[19:55] <charlie-tca> okay, 
[19:55] <charlie-tca> what about using the wiki for it?
[19:55] <Unit193> Meeting over?
[19:55] <GridCube> for what?
[19:55] <charlie-tca> not yet
[19:55] <charlie-tca> test results
[19:55] <Unit193> I think that GDoc is easier than wiki editing though
[19:55] <GridCube> oh, I don't know
[19:56] <GridCube> i could save the results to a text file?
[19:56] <charlie-tca> um, let's take this up later, we have one more bit to cover for the meeting before we lose people
[19:56] <madnick> one should be able to automatically put it on the wiki
[19:56] <GridCube> mmm i don't know about that
[19:56] <GridCube> it could be done
[19:56] <charlie-tca> won't work, since you must have edit approval to add/change the wiki
[19:56] <GridCube> okay charlie-tca :) please go on
[19:56] <charlie-tca> #topic [19:57] <charlie-tca> * The governancy part of the current Strategy Document can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/StrategyDocument#Xubuntu_Governance_.26_Team_Structure
[19:57] <charlie-tca> #subtopic Nominations for Xubuntu Project Lead
[19:57] <charlie-tca> How time flies...
[19:57] <charlie-tca> I have served as the Xubuntu Project Lead for three releases now. It has been a wonderful experience that I honestly enjoyed.
[19:57] <charlie-tca> However, in accordance with our governing document, I will now open nominations for the next month. Those wishing to nominate themselves or others should do so by email to either mailing list, or myself (charlie-tca@ubuntu.com).
[19:57] <charlie-tca> Nominations will close October 20, 2011, and the community election will be held at the meeting on October 23, 2011. If there are issues with this, please let us know between now and October 20.
[19:57] <charlie-tca> questions?
[19:58] <GridCube> nope
[19:58] <charlie-tca> Okay, let's get those nominations in, then!
[19:58] <GridCube> :D
[19:59] <charlie-tca> Thank you all for participating in the meeting! It is only with participation that this project grows and stays strong.
[19:59] <charlie-tca> If there is no other business, we will close the meeting...
[19:59] <charlie-tca> going...
[20:00] <charlie-tca> going...
[20:00] <charlie-tca> #endmeeting
[20:00] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Sep 19 20:00:06 2011 UTC.  
[20:00] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2011/xubuntu-devel.2011-09-19-19.01.moin.txt
[20:00] <madnick> :)
[20:00] <GridCube> :)
[20:00] <GridCube> ok i have to go to classes now :)
[20:00] <madnick> charlie-tca: can you allow people to edit the wiki? If so, we could auth via ssl and upload the testing contents automatically
[20:01] <charlie-tca> can't unless they are logged in
[20:01] <Unit193> charlie-tca: You running?
[20:01] <charlie-tca> There is no provision to change that
[20:01] <charlie-tca> Unit193: I never nominate myself
[20:01] <GridCube> and you have to authenticate TWICE!
[20:01] <madnick> I see
[20:02] <GridCube> what i can do is to dump the test results to a txt file
[20:02] <GridCube> or a cvs
[20:02] <Unit193> Once the nomination gets sent to you, do you ask the nominated if s/he accepts?
[20:02] <charlie-tca> of course
[20:02] <madnick> Would be pretty nice to have a Xubuntu testing center :P
[20:02] <GridCube> :P
[20:02] <GridCube> we have now
[20:03] <charlie-tca> Unit193: yes, I will be asking the nominees if they are willing
[20:03] <madnick> btw charlie-tca im not sure where to file the bug report, what package etc :\
[20:03] <GridCube> madnick: ubiquity?
[20:03] <GridCube> okay now i leave 
[20:03] <madnick> okay :)
[20:04] <Unit193> charlie-tca: Ok, sorry. I just wanted to make sure
[20:04] <charlie-tca> madnick: ubuntu-bug ubiquity
[20:04] <charlie-tca> keyboard selection page
[20:05] <charlie-tca> madnick: we have a really nice interface now, but we need to figure out how to report the results
[20:05] <madnick> yes
[20:05] <charlie-tca> where the did he go?
[20:05] <madnick> gridcube? he had classes
[20:06] <charlie-tca> If we dump to a text file, we still need a place to put it
[20:06] <madnick> thats why i said that a official xubuntu testing interface would be nice, like have what he made + more on like testing.xubuntu.org :P
[20:06] <charlie-tca> I will follow up the meeting with an email about the nominations and elections, too
[20:08] <charlie-tca> hm, something to investigate. I think it will require our own server, but I will ask Canonical if such is possible
[20:09] <madnick> I honestly cannot find where to report this bug, im sorry, im very tired if thats an excuse :\
[20:09] <madnick> I press "Report a bug" on ubuntu bugs, and I just get a wikipage
[20:09] <Unit193> Didn't pleia2 say sometyhing about a server?
[20:10] <charlie-tca> madnick: boot oneiric, if you have one that works, then open a terminal and type     ubuntu-bug ubiquity
[20:10] <madnick> oh :)
[20:11] <madnick> thanks :D
[20:11] <pleia2> canonical can just point the DNS wherever we ask, as long as the current hosting for it can put the testing. address in the apache config
[20:11] <charlie-tca> No problem. You can do that from oneiric live session too
[20:12] <charlie-tca> So it might be they can give us a testing site?
[20:12] <pleia2> a testing site is more complicated, they have a very limited amount of software they're install, planet, drupal, wordpress
[20:12] <pleia2> I highly doubt they'd let us run our home-brew testing code on their servers
[20:12] <charlie-tca> or we have to supply the server, and they will let us use the sub-domain 
[20:13] <pleia2> yeah, if we supply the server, they just point the subdomain at us
[20:13] <charlie-tca> Okay, that is something to consider then.
[20:13] <pleia2> I don't have anything available for production (the ubuntu-us.org server is full, and my ubuntu community server isn't for production code)
[20:14] <charlie-tca> I hate to get reliant on google now, with what I see happening to google+ as an "identity service"
[20:14] <charlie-tca> I might have something we can use. I will check it out.
[20:17] <madnick> hehe, hope it didnt upload my password :P im sure i pressed "no" tho
[20:18] <madnick> charlie-tca: sorry, i filed logs in too, but they are irrelevant, since its not the install that I got the error on :\
[20:22] <madnick> About the server thing, I have some servers (2), with great uptime, that I acctually do not use, located in Stockholm (not at my home, but in a server center) I could give anyone (related to working on this) access to any of them
[20:23] <charlie-tca> you can't get valid logs, since it locks up the computer
[20:23] <madnick> didnt think of that :P
[20:24] <madnick> I am tired, i just stayed up for the meeting :(
[20:25] <charlie-tca> madnick: bug number?
[20:25] <madnick> charlie-tca: 1 sec
[20:25] <madnick> #854198
[20:25] <charlie-tca> Thank you
[20:26] <Unit193> Bug #854198
[20:26] <charlie-tca> yup, got it and am confirming it now
[20:27] <charlie-tca> so it is the double-click that did it, not selecting too many times, huh?
[20:27] <madnick> I think it was the double click
[20:27] <madnick> Im not 100% sure
[20:27] <charlie-tca> I am, since I switched several times, but when I went back I double clicked and locked it up
[20:35] <charlie-tca> Thank you sir. Get some rest, if you can. 
[20:35] <charlie-tca> Going to be a long week here
[20:35] <knome> sorry, i've had some connectivity problems
[20:37] <knome> mr_pouit, new about what?