| patrice | hi | 03:20 |
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| patrice | i have a problem with alacarte | 03:22 |
| patrice | it's full of bugs | 03:22 |
| mikodo | I have Xubuntu installed on top of Ubuntu 10.04. Anyone know how to have the Compiz Fusion Icon persist over reboots; and not have to always either click or unclick the Loose Binding or Indirect Binding to allow for the Negative Settings in CompizConfig Settings Manager to work? | 07:00 |
| mikodo | bedtime --goodnight | 07:18 |
| cYmen | How do I get a list of the fonts availabe for xterm? | 09:08 |
| cYmen | Somehow the VT Fonts right-click menu doesn't work for me. | 09:09 |
| well_laid_lawn | cYmen: there;s xfontsel | 09:18 |
| well_laid_lawn | s/;/'/ | 09:18 |
| SoundHelp | how would i change my default playback device? i can hear sound from teamspeak on my usb headset, but not sound from chrome | 10:51 |
| knome | try installing pavucontrol | 10:52 |
| SoundHelp | haha, thank you :) | 10:54 |
| knome | np | 10:54 |
| sivik | hey all | 11:05 |
| sivik | How do I control different volume for different applications? | 11:05 |
| === lighta is now known as Guest68197 | ||
| skcud | Anyone around? I need some help urgently. | 16:36 |
| pleia2 | !ask | 16:37 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) | 16:37 |
| skcud | I installed xubuntu two days back, everything was installed, configured well and today I didn't start up | 16:38 |
| pleia2 | does the machine not start, or does it start and give an error? | 16:39 |
| Guest68197 | I bet it's xfcesession | 16:39 |
| skcud | Nop, no errors. I'm running xubuntu 11.04? | 16:39 |
| skcud | I've been using ubuntu until this month and nothing like this occurred. | 16:40 |
| pleia2 | what about it "doesn't start"? does the machine start up? does the login screen appear? will it just not load the desktop? | 16:40 |
| skcud | The machine starts up. it doesn't go beyond the splash screen | 16:40 |
| skcud | I'm currently on the live cd | 16:41 |
| Guest68197 | so it's the desktop, can u log on tty ? | 16:41 |
| skcud | nop | 16:41 |
| charlie-tca | drive fsck? | 16:41 |
| charlie-tca | We did not have any notices for that in 11.04, but they still run. | 16:42 |
| charlie-tca | How long did you let it go? | 16:42 |
| charlie-tca | My 400GB drive takes about 15 minutes to check, and all I get is splash or blank screen during it. | 16:42 |
| skcud | I'm on a 300GB | 16:43 |
| skcud | Might it be that it's doing the check? | 16:43 |
| skcud | I didn't kept it longer than 5 minutes | 16:43 |
| skcud | Usually it does state that it's running a check | 16:43 |
| charlie-tca | possible. You can hit S to skip the check, and it will then go to the login scren if that is what is happening | 16:44 |
| skcud | Let me try :) | 16:44 |
| skcud | Thanks for the help | 16:44 |
| charlie-tca | You can also hit e in the grub menu, and edit the kernel line to remove "quiet splash" and see what messges it gives you | 16:44 |
| skcud | Alright | 16:45 |
| skcud | I'm going off from the live cd now | 16:45 |
| skcud | charlie-tca, that didn't work | 17:06 |
| === lighta is now known as Guest32615 | ||
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu community meeting in #xubuntu-devel in 30 minutes. Everyone is invited to attend. Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings | 18:29 |
| In-Vent-ive | Hello people, I have a question .. The computer turns off suddenly, and when I restart the Xfce does not work, I mean, instead of mouse displayed a big picture, and you see only part of window icons. I also tried restarting but i don't see any changes. | 19:02 |
| In-Vent-ive | Then do you know any way to reset Xfce, and solve my trouble.. Thank you. *My apologies, my english is poor.. | 19:02 |
| TheSheep | In-Vent-ive: you could try opening a terminal and writing 'xrandr --auto', that should set it to the default screen resolution | 19:10 |
| TheSheep | In-Vent-ive: also, what graphics card are you using? | 19:10 |
| In-Vent-ive | TheSheep: ThankYou for your answer, is solved now... yes indeed.. When I rebooted, I pressed the keys to enter in "low graphics". Then the system, repaired the visual environment. | 19:16 |
| In-Vent-ive | Thks! | 19:17 |
| === Firewall_ is now known as Firewall | ||
| IStorm | Okay, I have a question, but there are tons of details I'm putting on the back-burner, so I don't want the first response to be RTFM | 19:56 |
| IStorm | I wanna know about splitting the main file system to 2 drives, naturally, nothing critical could go on the second, but what could? | 19:57 |
| beardygnome | IStorm: such as /home on one partition and everything else on the other? | 19:58 |
| IStorm | Exactly. but I'm wondering about further than that. Something like /usr/share maybe | 19:58 |
| IStorm | I have a 3 some-odd gig hard drive, and it's getting tight, even cleaning what I can. | 19:59 |
| beardygnome | i've seen some suggestions that /var can go on a separate partiton | 19:59 |
| beardygnome | let me see if i can find the page for you | 19:59 |
| IStorm | how would it log the boot sequence? | 20:00 |
| IStorm | and please do, any info is helpful | 20:00 |
| IStorm | or, let me throw this out. Things like firefox and some other apps, well, I don't feel I need to have them on main drive. Outside of recompiling them, are there options? | 20:02 |
| IStorm | actually, I should say, are there option IN the package managers to redirect? | 20:03 |
| beardygnome | hmmm... i'm not sure about that | 20:05 |
| IStorm | I just need to get the fluff off the main | 20:05 |
| beardygnome | most programs end up in /usr, so if /usr was on a separate drive, they would go there automatically | 20:05 |
| IStorm | but how many are critical prior to auto-mounting that? | 20:06 |
| IStorm | btw, thanks much for any help. I love...well, I call them frankenstein systems, stuff put together from dead pc's | 20:07 |
| IStorm | We're lookin at a 3.2 gig, 3.1 gig, and a 40 gig for data. The 40 gig needs to be "pull out-able" without disrupting too much. | 20:09 |
| beardygnome | i think that they would be auto-mounted during the boot process | 20:09 |
| beardygnome | this website should give you some ideas: http://lissot.net/partition/partition-04.html | 20:09 |
| beardygnome | if you run the ubuntu installer (i've not used others, so i can't comment on how they will behave) and choose to manually partition your disk, it gives you a drop down of all the different options | 20:12 |
| IStorm | Well, I see your point about var now | 20:12 |
| beardygnome | you can choose /var, /boot, /home, /usr, /tmp and some others, iirc | 20:13 |
| IStorm | I've done other installers, but from old debian and red hat | 20:13 |
| IStorm | boot has to be on the main, doesn't it? | 20:14 |
| IStorm | I know I could get home on the other, and from what you pointed me to, tmp and var | 20:14 |
| IStorm | but I think the issue is in /usr/share | 20:15 |
| beardygnome | linux can boot from any partition, as long as it is flagged as bootable | 20:16 |
| beardygnome | but /boot is usually very small, so wouldn't save you that much space | 20:16 |
| beardygnome | what is your current setup? | 20:16 |
| IStorm | Well, it all fits on the 3.2, but it concerns me that I don't have at least 500 megs left | 20:19 |
| beardygnome | what other disks do you have available? | 20:20 |
| IStorm | I've got another 2gig and 3.1 gig, in addition to the 3.1, 3.2, and 40 | 20:21 |
| IStorm | I know the easy answer is to use the 40, but I want that one removeable. | 20:22 |
| beardygnome | so you have 2gig, 3.1gig and 3.2 gig to use then? | 20:23 |
| IStorm | And believe me, I"ve culled apps like sickness | 20:24 |
| IStorm | Nah, I need one open for a cd-burner/reader | 20:24 |
| IStorm | 2 ide channels, so I get 4 total | 20:24 |
| IStorm | It's a puzzle, and that's why I love it. | 20:25 |
| beardygnome | so you have about 6gig in total to use? | 20:25 |
| IStorm | Yea, I got 6 gig total, that won't be added to by data in the least | 20:26 |
| IStorm | Well, I guess thats kind of a sweeping statement, | 20:27 |
| beardygnome | and i guess getting a bigger disk isn't possible at the moment? | 20:27 |
| IStorm | well, I guess I feel like that's cheating | 20:27 |
| beardygnome | :-) | 20:28 |
| IStorm | I could get a whole pc for less than a new HD | 20:28 |
| IStorm | I run Xubuntu because it's lovely with low ram systems, only 512m on this one, actually it was 256 till a week ago | 20:29 |
| beardygnome | just checking how much space different things take on my disks | 20:29 |
| IStorm | du is the rockstar there | 20:29 |
| beardygnome | df was fine for me | 20:30 |
| charlie-tca | um, I pick up 40gb hard drives at the thrift stores in the USA for about $5 each | 20:31 |
| IStorm | oh, I was looking at different directories | 20:31 |
| beardygnome | ok, i have /home on a separate drive, and everything else on my main drive | 20:31 |
| beardygnome | my main xubuntu partition takes up 6gig, but that's without any effort to cut things down | 20:32 |
| beardygnome | out of that 6gig, 3.2gig is taken up by /usr | 20:32 |
| IStorm | charlie-tca - I pick these machines up at auction for about that, but sadly most of the thrift stores don't carry much of that around here, I've looked. | 20:32 |
| beardygnome | so how about you use the two drives for /root and /usr ? | 20:33 |
| IStorm | The trouble is that most of the time with an auction you have no idea what's inside, but gambling for 4-8 bucks is kinda fun | 20:33 |
| beardygnome | sorry, i should say / and /usr | 20:33 |
| charlie-tca | heh, yard sales... | 20:33 |
| beardygnome | (/root is a different thing...) | 20:33 |
| IStorm | exactly | 20:33 |
| IStorm | actually, property auctions are way better, if you have the chance | 20:34 |
| IStorm | right, that is the question, I've got 1.3g on usr on my machine, could it be moved....SHOULD it be moved? | 20:35 |
| IStorm | The last thing I wanna do is destabilize the system because something needs for that to be on the same drive. | 20:37 |
| IStorm | I'm gonna be reloading the OS as it is, because I cleaned it a little too tightly, there are fonts missing from my panel configuration displays | 20:38 |
| beardygnome | as long as the partition with the /usr data on is mounted on /usr, you shouldn't have any problems | 20:38 |
| beardygnome | if you are planning to reinstall, then i would suggest that you simply tell the installer to put / on one drive and /usr on the other | 20:39 |
| IStorm | I don't remember an option for that, but it might be there | 20:40 |
| beardygnome | that will ensure that the correct fstab settings get generated and that everything gets mounted in the right place | 20:41 |
| beardygnome | you have to choose the "manually partition the disk" option | 20:41 |
| IStorm | I take great pride in hand-editing my fstabs, lol | 20:41 |
| IStorm | out of principle, I refuse to use a utility. | 20:42 |
| IStorm | one should know that config file | 20:42 |
| IStorm | particularly | 20:42 |
| IStorm | in the manual partition method, does it offer any other options but root and swap though? | 20:43 |
| beardygnome | yes, you can choose /home, /boot, /var, /tmp, /, /usr (and a few more, iirc) | 20:44 |
| IStorm | wow | 20:44 |
| charlie-tca | and if you the alternate installer, you can even specify the mount point manually | 20:45 |
| IStorm | okay, need to get xchat onto a diff machine, gonna throw another drive in and see what comes up. | 20:47 |
| IStorm | this is just general ubuntu servers irc. right | 20:47 |
| IStorm | hmph, I wanna detach a session on my other linux machine so that I can move it around, any thoughts on terminal based irc clients? | 20:49 |
| beardygnome | sorry, i prefer guis for that | 20:52 |
| charlie-tca | weechat is real good, easier than irrsi, I think | 20:52 |
| beardygnome | gotta go now, but good luck | 20:52 |
| knome | i haven't used weechat, but if it's easier than irssi, it must be really easy ;) | 20:52 |
| IStorm | well, I think for the time being, I'm gonna mirc my windows | 20:52 |
| IStorm | okay, switching over | 20:57 |
| IncredibleStorm | Back | 20:58 |
| IncredibleStorm | well, IStorm=Incrediblestorm | 20:58 |
| IncredibleStorm | hmph, need to find my natty xubuntu-alt cd | 21:03 |
| IncredibleStorm | hmph, shouldn't be that hard to turn off display of joins | 21:36 |
| Unit193 | !quietxchat | 21:37 |
| ubottu | To disable joins and parts from being displayed in all future channels you join, type /set irc_conf_mode 1 . To apply this setting to all current channels, type /gui apply. To disable the prints for only certain channels, right click on the channel tab and click Settings -> Hide Join/Part Messages | 21:37 |
| Unit193 | IncredibleStorm: You're using pidgin aren't you? | 21:39 |
| charlie-tca | hm, weechat starts with them disabled | 21:40 |
| charlie-tca | xchat is just a right-click on the channel | 21:40 |
| Unit193 | It's a simple /ignore #channel +JOINS +PARTS +QUITS for me, but I don't use it | 21:41 |
| IStorm | It's really quiet here | 23:18 |
| knome | it's not unusual | 23:18 |
| IStorm | It's still sad. I've brought amazing life to a lot of machines with Xubuntu | 23:19 |
| IStorm | I'd just like to hear some chatter, so-to-speak | 23:19 |
| knome | the fact that it's quiet here doesn't necessarily mean there is no xubuntu users | 23:21 |
| knome | maybe they just don't have any problems | 23:21 |
| IStorm | well said | 23:22 |
| IStorm | I'm reinstalling, trying to split stuff between 2 3.2Gb drives | 23:22 |
| knome | mmh | 23:23 |
| IStorm | I asked earlier, and they were correct, I can designate /usr to a different partition on install | 23:23 |
| knome | yes | 23:23 |
| IStorm | first attempt failed, I expect this one to as well, I didn't make that many changes. It's to early to define what actually happened | 23:25 |
| knome | yeah. 6.4Gb is little, that split in two is even less | 23:25 |
| knome | that's less than i have RAM :( | 23:25 |
| IStorm | well, I've been running it well on 4gb, but 3.2 is just toooooooo tight. | 23:26 |
| knome | yeah, 1×4Gb is ~okay, i have the 4G eeepc model | 23:26 |
| IStorm | this is Xubuntu, right? I started this machine with 256mb ram | 23:26 |
| knome | yeah. :) | 23:26 |
| knome | xubuntu works well with newer pc's too | 23:27 |
| IStorm | I cannot imagine it working badly with anything... | 23:28 |
| knome | install it with less than 256MB ram ;) | 23:28 |
| IStorm | that being said, I've brought machines back from the grave with it | 23:28 |
| knome | yeah. on the other hand, i've brought machines to grave with it. it's pretty much so solid you understand you only need one | 23:29 |
| IStorm | I could do it with 128, I'm betting, but lower than that and you would have to drop X | 23:29 |
| knome | you can probably boot it with 128, yeah | 23:29 |
| IStorm | With X | 23:29 |
| knome | yes | 23:30 |
| IStorm | Ya gotta love that | 23:30 |
| knome | there are better alternatives for below 256 than xubuntu though | 23:30 |
| IStorm | do tell | 23:30 |
| knome | damn small linux | 23:30 |
| IStorm | doesn't have X does it? | 23:30 |
| knome | does | 23:31 |
| IStorm | REALLY? | 23:31 |
| knome | yeah, but then again it's really different | 23:31 |
| knome | Minimum Requirements for DSL with X-Window: | 23:32 |
| knome | "i486" "24 MB RAM" | 23:32 |
| IStorm | I was under the impression that DaSmLi was for flash drives and such? | 23:32 |
| knome | well, it is also small in size yeah, but no reason why you couldn't use it on a hard drive too | 23:32 |
| IStorm | See, I don't know how old YOU are, but I remember when 24mb was a rockin PC | 23:33 |
| IStorm | Well, let's start with the start, what is the window manager? | 23:33 |
| knome | i can't remember that far, but yeah, things change | 23:33 |
| IStorm | You can't remember when 16mb simm's were high-end? | 23:34 |
| knome | something like that | 23:34 |
| IStorm | When the internet got pictures? | 23:34 |
| knome | heh | 23:34 |
| knome | i'm 25 :) | 23:34 |
| IStorm | NCSA | 23:34 |
| IStorm | Okay, you clearly don't remember browsing the internet on a green-screen | 23:35 |
| knome | started fiddling with pc's when i was 5, our first internet was broadband (cable!) when i was 14, the same year i was paid to create my first ever website for a company... ;) | 23:35 |
| knome | dsl uses fluxbox afaik | 23:36 |
| knome | fluxbox or jwm | 23:37 |
| IStorm | started dissassembling phones when I was 5 (not even the atari was built then), my first PC was an 8086 (640k ram, no hard disk, dual 5 1/4 floppy drives.......top of the line) | 23:38 |
| knome | the first pc i remember us having was 486 | 23:38 |
| IStorm | oh, and my first paid excursion was taking a supermarket chain off satellite credit card transaction processing and transferring to land line ip based transactions | 23:40 |
| IStorm | 386 | 23:40 |
| knome | heh, nice | 23:40 |
| IStorm | we added check clearing, with the little modules that scan a check and test for micr ink\ | 23:41 |
| IStorm | I wasn't that involved in that, till they needed people to hook cables under a checklane that hadn't been cleaned in 15 year, LOL | 23:42 |
| knome | ;) | 23:42 |
| IStorm | Do you do a lot of web stuff? | 23:43 |
| knome | one could say so | 23:43 |
| knome | (run a company myself that does web stuff + work on open source web stuff too) | 23:44 |
| IStorm | for whom (don't give names) | 23:46 |
| knome | for whom what? :) | 23:46 |
| IStorm | do you have a plan, or do you just take what you get? | 23:46 |
| IStorm | your company doing web stuff | 23:47 |
| knome | let's put it like this: so far i haven't needed to say no to an offer :) | 23:47 |
| IStorm | I'm not trying to pry or be mean, but a janitor could say that. | 23:48 |
| IStorm | You know your stuff, that's clear. | 23:48 |
| knome | err, actually once i did. but that doesn't really count becuase they wanted to race companies and i (then we) said we can't offer what you want for the price you are willing to pay | 23:48 |
| knome | ;) | 23:48 |
| knome | it's not always easy to be an entrepreneur, true enough | 23:49 |
| IStorm | Always make sure they understand what they get for the price | 23:49 |
| knome | of course. | 23:49 |
| IStorm | DON'T EVER LET YOURSELF GET CAUGHT UP IN ANYTHING THAT * | 23:50 |
| IStorm | DON'T EVER LET YOURSELF GET CAUGHT UP IN ANYTHING THAT *"YOU"* | 23:50 |
| knome | oops, caps? :) | 23:50 |
| IStorm | FIND COOL! | 23:50 |
| IStorm | For a reason | 23:50 |
| IStorm | I meant every cap | 23:51 |
| knome | don't get caught using caps when an operator is present | 23:51 |
| knome | O;) | 23:51 |
| IStorm | You could save a fortune 500 company 2billion a year, but if it makes the owner look bad, or doesn't make him happy............ | 23:52 |
| IStorm | It's been a while for me with IRC | 23:52 |
| knome | !coc | 23:52 |
| ubottu | The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere, and can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | 23:52 |
| knome | !guidelines | 23:52 |
| ubottu | The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines | 23:52 |
| knome | just for reference :) | 23:52 |
| IStorm | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archie_search_engine | 23:55 |
| IStorm | We started as such | 23:55 |
| knome | mm-hmm | 23:55 |
| IStorm | If an op wants to ban me for capping that advice, they can. I DO know the etiquette, but not so much the rules. | 23:56 |
| knome | i don't want to ban you ;) just said so you know the next time | 23:57 |
| knome | if you use common sense, you'll get far without getting banned | 23:57 |
| IStorm | lol, I didn't know you were an op. | 23:58 |
| IStorm | Caps are meant for "loud, shouting" speech. | 23:58 |
| IStorm | no? | 23:58 |
| knome | yup | 23:58 |
| knome | that's pretty much always unwanted | 23:59 |
| IStorm | That was the intention. | 23:59 |
| knome | being unwanted? :P | 23:59 |
| IStorm | Well, then I will apologize to you personally | 23:59 |
| knome | heh, no problem really | 23:59 |
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