| micahg | rekonq is the default browser in maverick+, right? | 05:39 |
|---|---|---|
| ScottK | micahg: Yes. | 05:47 |
| micahg | :( | 05:47 |
| ScottK | Why? | 05:47 |
| micahg | well, just tested my qt4-x11 update on maverick and rekonq crashed | 05:47 |
| ScottK | Oh. | 05:47 |
| ScottK | It may have done that before. | 05:47 |
| ScottK | First set of Kubuntu candidate images up for Beta 2 testing http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20110920.6/ | 05:48 |
| * micahg wonders how a default browser could be released with a segfault | 05:48 | |
| ScottK | shadeslayer was busy with exams, IIRC. | 05:48 |
| ScottK | Actually, IDK, as I almost never use it. | 05:48 |
| * micahg downgrades to release version to see | 05:48 | |
| micahg | dang, it does segfault with the release version :( | 06:00 |
| * micahg switches to konqueror | 06:00 | |
| valorie | ScottK: I brought my netbook which was running beta, up to date last night | 06:06 |
| valorie | if I run another set up updates, is that the equiv. of the Beta 2/rc ? | 06:07 |
| ScottK | Yes | 06:17 |
| valorie | cool | 06:20 |
| bulldog98_ | apachelogger: how to compile uds-qml for symbian on my mashine? | 06:51 |
| === bulldog98_ is now known as bulldog98 | ||
| bambee | morning | 08:04 |
| === timblechmann is now known as tim | ||
| apachelogger | bulldog98: qt creator | 10:12 |
| apachelogger | also you'll need to remote compile via nokia, as I do not think there is a symbian toolchain on linux | 10:12 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: yes that’s what I found out until now, but how can I get an account to use that? | 10:13 |
| apachelogger | register at developer.nokia.com | 10:13 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: where is the button to do so, or am I blind? | 10:14 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: https://www.developer.nokia.com/Profile/Join.xhtml?locale=en | 10:15 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: thx | 10:15 |
| venu | hi everyone.i want to create a new option in my kubuntu right-click menu.How shld i write a .desktop file to do this? | 10:17 |
| bulldog98 | venu: this is the developer channel please ask questions for support in #kubuntu | 10:19 |
| venu | bulldog98: thanx | 10:19 |
| apachelogger | actually that belongs even less in there than in here :P | 10:25 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: what I always find surprising is how much rekonq can crash with such a tiny code base | 10:26 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| yofel | well, if you add qtwebkit to that you can enough crash potential ^^ | 10:28 |
| yofel | *can get | 10:28 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: can you please accept https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-coding https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-postponeds https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-mobile | 10:31 |
| apachelogger | yofel: except most crashes I get are not in qtwebkit but rekonq | 10:34 |
| yofel | ah, mine are usually in qtwebkit | 10:35 |
| yofel | so I hope it becomes actually usable with the rc | 10:35 |
| apachelogger | oh | 10:35 |
| apachelogger | on oneiric? | 10:35 |
| apachelogger | maybe we should push a new rekonq in? :P | 10:35 |
| yofel | that too ^^ | 10:35 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: how are settings usually presented on symbian^3? | 10:36 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: nokia apps use a popup list | 10:38 |
| apachelogger | video would be good | 10:38 |
| apachelogger | interestingly enough the harmattan components are not half bad compared to the symbian ones | 10:39 |
| apachelogger | on harmattan you can at least get a settings dialog that looks like the others ^^ | 10:39 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: but even the nokia one are not consitent, so simply do one | 10:40 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: well, whatever seems most useful I want | 10:41 |
| apachelogger | that said... the symbian UX guidelines suggest a wizard like dialog | 10:41 |
| bulldog98 | e.g. Store uses a tab for that, player uses a popup, … | 10:41 |
| apachelogger | except there is no such thing in the qt components | 10:41 |
| apachelogger | + it would be jolly ard to build such a wizard without cpp | 10:41 |
| apachelogger | utter fail | 10:41 |
| apachelogger | it is like statusbar notifications on harmattan .. you simply cannot trigger them | 10:42 |
| apachelogger | although for harmattan that is a design flaw from meego | 10:42 |
| Quintasan_ | fml | 10:52 |
| Quintasan_ | I'm ill :/ | 10:52 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| apachelogger | Quintasan: soft kitty warm kitty littel ball of fur sleepy kitty happy kitty purr purr purr | 10:59 |
| apachelogger | who wants to do the uds app for android? | 11:00 |
| nigelb | I thought there already was one. | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | as with so many things apacheloggerware is superior | 11:01 |
| nigelb | summit exposes a read-only API now, if it helps anyone who wants to build an app. | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | also it is written in qt | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | using throw away UIs | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | writing a ui takes like an hour or so | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | nigelb: oh oh oh | 11:01 |
| apachelogger | nigelb: tell me more pretty please | 11:01 |
| nigelb | apachelogger: sec, let me find docs :-) | 11:01 |
| nigelb | apachelogger: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/summit/rest-api/+merge/75859 | 11:02 |
| nigelb | If you want pretty docs, poke me ~4 hours and I'll sit down and write it :) | 11:02 |
| apachelogger | haha | 11:05 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: all the work for nothing :P | 11:05 |
| apachelogger | nigelb: if you had mentioned this last week ... shadeslayer wrote an ical parser :S | 11:06 |
| nigelb | apachelogger: haha | 11:14 |
| nigelb | apachelogger: Talk to us! | 11:14 |
| nigelb | Let us just help you folks :-) | 11:14 |
| apachelogger | lol | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | well | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | I do not think a full switch to the API is much to go for at this point | 11:15 |
| * apachelogger does not care to implement persistent storage using sql | 11:15 | |
| apachelogger | every time someone writes a line of sql a kitten dies somewhere on planet earth :( | 11:16 |
| apachelogger | nigelb: something about the api feels fishy TBH | 11:19 |
| nigelb | apachelogger: what feels fishy? | 11:19 |
| apachelogger | not sure | 11:19 |
| nigelb | Its a thin wrapper | 11:19 |
| apachelogger | perhaps the fact that oen has to use query params | 11:19 |
| apachelogger | http://summit.ubuntu.com/api/room/?summit=6 | 11:20 |
| nigelb | Yeah, its not a "solid" API | 11:20 |
| apachelogger | http://summit.ubuntu.com/api/summit/6/room would seem much intuitive | 11:20 |
| nigelb | Sure, slowly :-) | 11:20 |
| apachelogger | why? it does exactly the same internally | 11:21 |
| nigelb | Ther's going to be a summit session at UDS | 11:21 |
| nigelb | Go there and tell what you want | 11:21 |
| apachelogger | on http://summit.ubuntu.com/api/summit/6/room you'd then apply your query | 11:21 |
| nigelb | I'll try to be there remotely as well | 11:21 |
| apachelogger | so you drilled down from a list of summits to one specific summit's room and then only want rooms that host tracks of "foo" | 11:22 |
| apachelogger | nigelb: not coming to orlando? :( | 11:22 |
| nigelb | apachelogger: Nope :( | 11:22 |
| nigelb | Mostly because it in the US and the visa is a hassle. | 11:22 |
| apachelogger | yeah, stupid visas | 11:23 |
| * apachelogger is fortunate enough to not require a proper visa | 11:23 | |
| apachelogger | oh, my new headset is in austria | 11:24 |
| apachelogger | nigelb: something that I can request right now ... it would be super awesome if summit provided a map of the venue | 11:25 |
| apachelogger | nigelb: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/uds-qml3.mp4 | 11:27 |
| nigelb | apachelogger: let me open a bug. I understand how that can be helpful. | 11:27 |
| nigelb | apachelogger: We already have a bug :-) bug 668540 | 11:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 668540 in Summit "Add room map" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/668540 | 11:29 |
| * apachelogger thinks about doing a blunt on-disk json cache | 11:33 | |
| apachelogger | I do not think there is much benefit from throwing stuff into a database really | 11:33 |
| apachelogger | with a simple json cache we can transparently serve urls from cache | 11:34 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Done. | 12:36 |
| shadeslayer | aw | 13:03 |
| shadeslayer | boo | 13:03 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i condem you to use our parser, thou shall not use summit API :P | 13:06 |
| apachelogger | ok | 13:07 |
| apachelogger | :P | 13:07 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: thx | 13:07 |
| apachelogger | http://i.imgur.com/b0Aij.png | 13:07 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: android app? is that in QML? | 13:07 |
| apachelogger | yep | 13:08 |
| apachelogger | now pushed | 13:08 |
| apachelogger | someone should write android components | 13:08 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you should totally port to ipone | 13:18 |
| apachelogger | you can actually reuse the main.qml from android it uses plain qtquick 1.0 | 13:18 |
| shadeslayer | iphone? What a rubbish platform | 13:18 |
| apachelogger | http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/08/09/update-on-uikit-lighthouse-platform/ | 13:19 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: my sister has a iPad and i got bored after 2 hours | 13:19 |
| shadeslayer | there's *nothing* to do | 13:19 |
| apachelogger | except run your uds app on it ^^ | 13:19 |
| shadeslayer | it was designed to do one job and one job only, make money by selling apps | 13:19 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 13:19 |
| apachelogger | anywho, I would reall appreciate if you could try to deploy it there | 13:20 |
| apachelogger | should be relatively easy as you can just put everything into the binary | 13:20 |
| apachelogger | also see qml/android.qrc | 13:20 |
| shadeslayer | sure, i can try, if i manage to figure out how to do it | 13:20 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: the qt labs post explains how to get a lighthose setup and all that stuff | 13:21 |
| shadeslayer | yep, will try over the weekend | 13:21 |
| apachelogger | splendid | 13:21 |
| shadeslayer | my profs have loaded me up for the week right now | 13:21 |
| * apachelogger waves fist | 13:23 | |
| shadeslayer | fooey, will have to clone Qt, and download the SDK | 13:24 |
| shadeslayer | that is like a ton of download right there | 13:24 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: on iOS side, what needs doing? | 13:31 |
| shadeslayer | i haz a iOS developer friend, i could probably ask him for help to set everything up | 13:32 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: nothing | 13:32 |
| apachelogger | that is what the blog post suggests | 13:32 |
| shadeslayer | oh, just testing stuff? | 13:32 |
| apachelogger | yeah, proof of concept | 13:32 |
| apachelogger | unless you actually want to do the development | 13:33 |
| shadeslayer | alright, i'll try it over the weekend | 13:33 |
| shadeslayer | no thanks :P | 13:33 |
| apachelogger | which probably involves writing ios qt components | 13:33 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 13:33 |
| apachelogger | which is surely a PITA | 13:33 |
| apachelogger | though not as much as on android I'd say | 13:33 |
| shadeslayer | cloning Qt will be a PITA | 13:33 |
| shadeslayer | i'm pretty sure i'll time out a couple of times | 13:33 |
| apachelogger | :D | 13:33 |
| shadeslayer | i tried to clone qtwebkit once | 13:34 |
| shadeslayer | on a 256kbp connection | 13:34 |
| shadeslayer | not pretty | 13:34 |
| apachelogger | well | 13:34 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98 is on 56k or something | 13:34 |
| apachelogger | so stop whining :P | 13:34 |
| shadeslayer | i know the feeling | 13:35 |
| shadeslayer | i had 56k 5 years back :P | 13:35 |
| shadeslayer | still have the US Robotics modem with me | 13:35 |
| shadeslayer | iirc i video called someone in the US with Yahoo + 56k modem | 13:35 |
| skfin | hmm... | 13:47 |
| skfin | a video call + 56k modem is not a possible combination | 13:47 |
| shadeslayer | in 2003 it was | 13:48 |
| skfin | Hmm | 13:48 |
| skfin | So you did listen to a 8-bit voice and two pixels? | 13:48 |
| shadeslayer | well, i had a VGA webcam back then, :P | 13:49 |
| shadeslayer | so something like, 1 frame every 10 seconds | 13:49 |
| skfin | VGA is 640x480 so its just too much for 56k modem itself :) | 13:49 |
| shadeslayer | and i used to go, OMG THAT GUY IS MOVING AND I CAN SEE HIM | 13:49 |
| apachelogger | !find pcre.h | 14:03 |
| ubottu | File pcre.h found in autoconf-archive, emboss-lib, gambas2-doc, kannel-dev, liblua5.1-rex-pcre-dev, libocamlnet-ocaml-doc, libpcre3-dev, php-doc, php5-dev, picviz (and 3 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=pcre.h&mode=&suite=natty&arch=any | 14:04 |
| shadeslayer | finally | 14:08 |
| shadeslayer | portal download | 14:09 |
| shadeslayer | started :D | 14:09 |
| apachelogger | http://paste.kde.org/124579/ | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | weeh | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I thought you had work to do? :P | 14:18 |
| === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse | ||
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: sure, i'm doing that, but portal is downloading as well | 14:33 |
| * shadeslayer is studying about 8051 micro controller registers | 14:33 | |
| apachelogger | gross | 14:33 |
| shadeslayer | gross for you, coursework for me | 14:35 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: why can’t I use a paint(int, int, QPixmap) in an selfwritten QDeclarativeItem? | 14:57 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: show me code | 15:00 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: what am i supposed to do in the workitem for neon? | 15:00 |
| apachelogger | I dunno | 15:03 |
| apachelogger | maybe it was Quintasan who added that | 15:03 |
| * apachelogger does not even know what it means | 15:03 | |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: kde:scratch/kolberg/kardsloader | 15:04 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: that’s the lib | 15:04 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: kde:scratch/kolberg/doppelkopf-qml is a small test project | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | hm | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | should just work | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | as long as qpixmap is actually a valid one | 15:06 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: problem is it says QPixmap: It is not safe to use pixmaps outside the GUI thread | 15:06 |
| bulldog98 | but I consider QML a Gui thread | 15:07 |
| bulldog98 | or an extend to that | 15:07 |
| * apachelogger points out that this assumption is not true for qtquick2 | 15:07 | |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: but how can I get the card out off that cache? | 15:08 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: QPixmap: It is not safe to use pixmaps outside the GUI thread | 15:12 |
| apachelogger | that appears before paint is even called | 15:12 |
| bulldog98 | I know that | 15:12 |
| bulldog98 | I guess it’s somewhere in the cache | 15:12 |
| bulldog98 | since I do not use QPixmap anywhere | 15:13 |
| bulldog98 | it’s tiggerd in m_cache->loadTheme(…) | 15:14 |
| bulldog98 | even if I move that into paint that error is thrown | 15:15 |
| fabo | debfx: bug 854330 | 15:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 854330 in strigi (Ubuntu) "Strigi 0.7.2 is an old release, it won't index files properly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/854330 | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: that function is threaded | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | hence the warning | 15:16 |
| bulldog98 | hm | 15:16 |
| bulldog98 | it’s from the kdegames lib | 15:16 |
| bulldog98 | maybe I should ask in #kdegames for help | 15:17 |
| bulldog98 | still kpat and lskat should get the same error if they call that | 15:20 |
| bulldog98 | but they get pixmaps and I don’t get pixmaps | 15:20 |
| Riddell | fabo: ah hah, that might explain why file search has stopped doing anything | 15:21 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: now I managed to get rid of the QPixmap stuff | 15:22 |
| fabo | Riddell: :) it introduces also some new stream support using ffmpeg | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: how? | 15:25 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: see the new commit | 15:25 |
| bulldog98 | somehow it was due a missing ->set…Theme() call | 15:25 |
| bulldog98 | but now I think my themename is wrong | 15:26 |
| apachelogger | I think you are using libkdegames wrong | 15:26 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: Certainly it was not me | 15:44 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: One of Polish users report brekage in packages | 15:45 |
| Quintasan | plasma-widget-metworkmanagement conflicts with network-manager-kde and network-manager-kde requires plasma-widget-networkmanagement | 15:45 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: maybe | 15:46 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: but at least I managed to get the plugin build and installed with cmake :) | 15:50 |
| shadeslayer | btw | 15:51 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: Blueprint changed by Harald Sitter: | 15:51 |
| shadeslayer | - [kubuntu-members] Give Neon a public purpose: TODO | 15:51 |
| shadeslayer | + [shadeslayer] Give Neon a public purpose: TODO | 15:51 |
| apachelogger | someone was talking about that at UDS | 15:51 |
| apachelogger | or the item would not be there | 15:51 |
| shadeslayer | someone explain that to me | 15:51 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: listen to the uds discussion | 15:51 |
| shadeslayer | ah righto | 15:51 |
| apachelogger | or maybe the notes have more details | 15:52 |
| apachelogger | see wiki link or something on the blueprint | 15:52 |
| shadeslayer | will check | 15:52 |
| bulldog98 | is already uds? | 15:52 |
| apachelogger | no | 15:52 |
| apachelogger | app is not finished :P | 15:52 |
| apachelogger | so it cannot be uds | 15:52 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: did you deploy onto symbian yet? | 15:53 |
| shadeslayer | "This page does not exist. If you feel that this is an error, please file a bug" | 15:53 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: no, I had my new account in spam folder | 15:53 |
| shadeslayer | awesome | 15:53 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: that’s good | 15:54 |
| shadeslayer | i'll have a look on the weeken | 15:55 |
| shadeslayer | s/weeken/weekend/ | 15:55 |
| kubotu | shadeslayer meant: "i'll have a look on the weekend" | 15:55 |
| shadeslayer | hrm | 15:56 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: digikam still being worked upon? | 15:56 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: lol | 16:13 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: even better nokia warned that that could happen. I guess they setup their mail server wrong | 16:14 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 16:14 |
| bulldog98 | fabo: is that fixed now? | 16:16 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: what pass do I have to type in into the remote compiler setup? | 16:21 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: the one from developer.nokia.com | 16:33 |
| allee | about nepomuk and strigi: in http://trueg.wordpress.com/2011/09/19/nepomuk-what-comes-next-revised/ in a comment it's mentioned "..2. If it’s 0.7.2, FILE A BUG IN YOUR DISTRO..". Oneiric and Project Neon still seem to use 0.7.2. | 16:33 |
| fabo | bulldog98: what's the context? :) "is that fixed now?" | 16:43 |
| fabo | allee: bug 854330 | 16:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 854330 in strigi (Ubuntu) "Strigi 0.7.2 is an old release, it won't index files properly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/854330 | 16:45 |
| fabo | allee: oneiric need a sync request | 16:45 |
| shadeslayer | dcmtk won't make it into main | 16:45 |
| shadeslayer | was required for KOffice | 16:45 |
| shadeslayer | but since we won't be usnig KOffice anymore | 16:46 |
| shadeslayer | *using | 16:46 |
| allee | fabo: great! Can you do a ppa build so 'we' can test it, like with bluedevil. I assume as it's late in release cycle a simple sync request is not enough | 16:49 |
| allee | ScottK: ^^ libstrigi & co ?? | 16:50 |
| shadeslayer | omg | 16:53 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://googleplusplatform.blogspot.com/2011/09/introducing-google-hangouts-api.html | 16:53 |
| apachelogger | yay | 17:00 |
| apachelogger | more prn | 17:00 |
| ScottK | allee: Yes. Please (testing) | 17:00 |
| apachelogger | Sput: ping | 17:11 |
| apachelogger | Sput: I said ping!!! :P | 17:11 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: not by me at least right now, someone still needs to fix the stuff debfx complained about | 17:17 |
| fabo | allee: uploaded to https://launchpad.net/~fboudra/+archive/kde | 17:21 |
| debfx | yofel, shadeslayer: I think putting the libraries into own packages and overriding their version might actually be the best option | 17:22 |
| yofel | I put them seperately to prevent file conflicts later, but I don't know how to override the versions (and have no time for at least the next 2 days to look it up) | 17:23 |
| bulldog98 | fabo: exectly that bug 854330 | 17:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 854330 in strigi (Ubuntu) "Strigi 0.7.2 is an old release, it won't index files properly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/854330 | 17:25 |
| === maco2 is now known as maco | ||
| bulldog98 | has somebody an idea what https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/766145 is about? | 17:38 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 766145 in kdebase (Ubuntu) "KDM resets system settings from custimized to defult value" [Undecided,New] | 17:38 |
| debfx | bulldog98: looks like a duplicate of bug #798091 | 17:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 798091 in kubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Default settings not applied when reverting system settings" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/798091 | 17:44 |
| yofel | allee: thanks for mentioning it, I'll try to update it in neon (we can't built it from git since bzr-git doesn't support submodules) | 17:45 |
| bulldog98 | debfx: should we fix that? | 17:45 |
| debfx | systemsettings reverts to kde default values ignoring kubuntu-default-settings | 17:45 |
| debfx | bulldog98: sure if you know how | 17:45 |
| bulldog98 | debfx: I guess we need to patch the *.kcfgc files to include our defaults, but that would mean, that you can’t get default kde settings | 17:48 |
| bulldog98 | in the kcms | 17:49 |
| debfx | bulldog98: the proper solution would be to teach the code to take config file cascading into account | 17:54 |
| bulldog98 | debfx: that isn’t possible, cause the reset feature only uses the .kcfgc files, which is intended | 17:55 |
| bulldog98 | it should only take .kcfgc files in account, since everything else is not default | 17:56 |
| debfx | bulldog98: so we need to change the reset feature | 17:56 |
| debfx | that's certainly not what users expect | 17:57 |
| bulldog98 | debfx: should we teach it to also use our system config path? | 17:57 |
| bulldog98 | debfx++ | 17:57 |
| debfx | I guess it should take all config paths into account except the kde home dir | 18:02 |
| bulldog98 | debfx: yes, we would need to do that upstream I guess | 18:05 |
| skfin | Hmm...either kcolorpicker hasnt been yet synced to finnish update mirror or it is strangely missing | 18:23 |
| skfin | apt-get returns 404 | 18:24 |
| skfin | Well, doesnt actually return but the download process returns 404 | 18:24 |
| apachelogger | I once had a 404 | 18:24 |
| apachelogger | got it on ebay for 0.50 EUR | 18:24 |
| apachelogger | it broke after one week | 18:24 |
| skfin | Ok. | 18:25 |
| skfin | I can sell you this one | 18:25 |
| apachelogger | no, I don't want another one | 18:26 |
| apachelogger | I grew really close with my old one | 18:26 |
| apachelogger | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kcolorchooser/4:4.7.1-0ubuntu2 | 18:27 |
| apachelogger | skfin: mirror might be updating right now | 18:27 |
| skfin | Yea | 18:27 |
| apachelogger | it happens | 18:27 |
| apachelogger | hold on to your 404 while it lasts | 18:28 |
| skfin | But Trumpetti is my favourite server and my really close friend, I wont let it down for just one 404 | 18:28 |
| skfin | And it's just 23km away and ping to there is 16ms | 18:29 |
| apachelogger | something tells me roundtrip with backbone server is kiling the speed there :P | 18:30 |
| skfin | Ah. Now it doesnt give me 404 | 18:31 |
| apachelogger | :( | 18:31 |
| skfin | trumpetti.atm.tut.fi | 18:31 |
| apachelogger | another 404 scared away | 18:31 |
| skfin | Tampere University of Technologies :) | 18:32 |
| skfin | trumpetti <3 | 18:32 |
| apachelogger | university, I have heared of this place, they have partees there | 18:32 |
| apachelogger | after all this rubbish talk I feel like champagne | 18:34 |
| yofel | bulldog98: anything blocking the soprano backport? or did you just not get to it yet? | 18:38 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: shadeslayer said he was working on it | 18:38 |
| yofel | k | 18:41 |
| shadeslayer | something *was* blocking the soprano backport, but i don't remember what it was anymore | 19:07 |
| shadeslayer | some other package that needed backporting or sth | 19:08 |
| shadeslayer | and someone is trying to bruteforce their way in | 19:08 |
| shadeslayer | via ssh | 19:08 |
| yofel | lemme, guess, you have ssh listening on port 22 and 22 forwarded? | 19:09 |
| shadeslayer | ssh is running on 22 :P | 19:10 |
| shadeslayer | haven't put in a custom port yet | 19:10 |
| shadeslayer | i should probably do that | 19:11 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: pingpingping | 19:15 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you coming to uds? | 19:15 |
| apachelogger | is Quintasan coming to uds? | 19:15 |
| * yofel isn't coming to UDS | 19:15 | |
| * apachelogger waves fist | 19:15 | |
| * bulldog98 neighter | 19:15 | |
| apachelogger | y you people never come to the uds? | 19:16 |
| apachelogger | despite me writing cool apps | 19:16 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: did you deploy on symbian yet? | 19:16 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: nope | 19:16 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: nope, I don’t know which pass to tipe into the configuration of remote compiler | 19:16 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i have my GRE exam during UDS | 19:16 |
| apachelogger | oh dear | 19:18 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: your nokia developer account details | 19:18 |
| micahg | apachelogger: you coming to UDS? | 19:18 |
| * bulldog98 tries again last time I tried it didn’t work | 19:18 | |
| apachelogger | micahg: yup | 19:19 |
| micahg | apachelogger: great! | 19:19 |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 19:19 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: http://i.imgur.com/8s56c.png | 19:19 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: http://i.imgur.com/o5a42.png | 19:20 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: me forgot to add the username to the lineedit :( | 19:20 |
| apachelogger | lol | 19:20 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: how do I deploy to my device? | 19:28 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: see documentation | 19:28 |
| apachelogger | help tab in qtcreator | 19:28 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/125371/ | 19:36 |
| Sput | apachelogger: wot. | 19:40 |
| maco | who from kubuntu will be at uds? | 19:41 |
| maco | obv i can safely assume scott & riddell | 19:41 |
| apachelogger | maco: no scott, busy with work he is | 19:42 |
| maco | mrow? | 19:42 |
| apachelogger | maco: jr, claydoh, DarkwingDuck and me from what I know thus far | 19:42 |
| maco | scott...ever...misses uds? | 19:42 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan if he can get a visa | 19:42 |
| apachelogger | maco: apparently so | 19:42 |
| maco | this has to be the first uds scott's missed in at least 3 years | 19:43 |
| apachelogger | incidentially enough I need to find a new drinking partner :( | 19:43 |
| apachelogger | maco: you coming? did you add yourself to the wiki yet? :P | 19:43 |
| maco | i dont know | 19:43 |
| claydoh | lol apachelogger I could take drinking up as a new hobby | 19:43 |
| claydoh | buy I am not good at it | 19:44 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: and that is all? :O | 19:44 |
| apachelogger | Sput: nvm, markey seems to have fallen asleep | 19:44 |
| apachelogger | he wanted to do hangoutz | 19:44 |
| nigelb | g55 | 19:44 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: yes. I would say remote compiler has a bug | 19:44 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: I'll try in a minute or two | 19:44 |
| maco | nigelb: having a fight with your irc client? | 19:44 |
| apachelogger | claydoh: about time then :P | 19:45 |
| nigelb | maco: nah | 19:45 |
| apachelogger | nigelb: btw, I wrote a simple app using the api earlier today | 19:52 |
| apachelogger | should be jolly easy to make the app use the api | 19:52 |
| apachelogger | qt quick is awesome like that | 19:53 |
| nigelb | apachelogger: \m/ | 19:53 |
| nigelb | ROCK ON | 19:53 |
| Sput | apachelogger: as usual | 19:54 |
| Sput | awake? | 19:54 |
| ScottK | apachelogger is always awake. | 19:54 |
| ScottK | The question, is, is he sober enough to type. | 19:54 |
| apachelogger | Sput: :D :D :D :D | 19:55 |
| nigelb | ScottK: hahaha | 19:55 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: I think Sput was referring to a joke only elitist google hangouters understand :P | 19:56 |
| Sput | yes, I was indeed | 19:56 |
| BarkingFish | evening guys :) | 19:58 |
| BarkingFish | I'm pretty much back to full fitness and ready to get back on with some work. Anyone got anything they need build testing, debugging or generally unborking? | 19:59 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: oh, there is some weirdness with the remote compiler | 19:59 |
| bulldog98 | BarkingFish: do you run oneiric? | 19:59 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: yeah | 19:59 |
| apachelogger | Build Failed: Zipping failed: file to open is a directory (/home/me/src/git/uds/qml/core) | 20:00 |
| apachelogger | wtf | 20:00 |
| BarkingFish | bulldog98, no - natty, but I have pbuilder set up to work on both | 20:00 |
| bulldog98 | BarkingFish: ok no problem | 20:00 |
| apachelogger | Sput: y ur company distributes broken software? :P | 20:00 |
| bulldog98 | Sput: fix that :P | 20:01 |
| bulldog98 | like now | 20:01 |
| BarkingFish | hi ScottK :) | 20:01 |
| apachelogger | really weird | 20:01 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: any ETA for soprano? If not I'll either do it myself or use the old one | 20:01 |
| ScottK | BarkingFish: Hello. | 20:01 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: ETA? | 20:02 |
| Sput | apachelogger: what? | 20:02 |
| yofel | bulldog98: estimated time of arrival? | 20:02 |
| apachelogger | Sput: remote compiler in qtcreator is somewhat flimsy | 20:02 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: k | 20:02 |
| Sput | apachelogger: not my realm :) | 20:03 |
| Sput | pester ossi! | 20:03 |
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| * apachelogger is scared of ossi | 20:03 | |
| * bulldog98 too | 20:03 | |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: actually it works with a clean project, so there is something in the pro file that makes it fall over | 20:03 |
| apachelogger | I wonder what though | 20:03 |
| apachelogger | very weird | 20:03 |
| apachelogger | maybe it inspects the qml files, though that'd be weird | 20:03 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: maybe you could get ossi interessted enought to fix that | 20:04 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: the default project, does it have subfolder in the qml folder? | 20:04 |
| apachelogger | yes | 20:04 |
| apachelogger | but only one | 20:04 |
| apachelogger | what I do not understand... why does qt creator not simply zip up the entire tree and ship it off | 20:05 |
| apachelogger | very curious | 20:05 |
| apachelogger | bambee: ping | 20:05 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: do you know who wrote that peace of software? | 20:05 |
| apachelogger | the berlin qt team | 20:06 |
| apachelogger | I guess, as they make all of qtcreator | 20:06 |
| apachelogger | oh | 20:06 |
| apachelogger | actually Mowhi | 20:06 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: how did you find that out? | 20:07 |
| apachelogger | secret | 20:07 |
| apachelogger | well then | 20:08 |
| apachelogger | I do not think it has to do withthe sub dirs | 20:09 |
| apachelogger | I created a sub dir in a blank project and it did not trip over it | 20:09 |
| apachelogger | whoop whoop | 20:10 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: nope, i won't be able to look at it before tomorrow | 20:10 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: I found it out too | 20:10 |
| apachelogger | something is broken with the pro file | 20:10 |
| apachelogger | which is actually surprising | 20:10 |
| apachelogger | eh | 20:10 |
| apachelogger | not | 20:10 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: k, I'll wait then, won't have much time tomorrow anyway | 20:10 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 20:11 |
| apachelogger | eh | 20:11 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: it falls over my excessive if else stuff | 20:12 |
| apachelogger | very weird | 20:12 |
| apachelogger | also it fails to build for no apparent reason | 20:12 |
| shadeslayer | soprano will probably take some time as well because it doesn't have alot of the build deps satisfied iirc | 20:12 |
| yofel | there's redland etc. already in backports if you need it | 20:13 |
| yofel | just copy it over | 20:13 |
| shadeslayer | again, don't remember, will look tomorrow | 20:15 |
| apachelogger | http://paste.kde.org/125431/ | 20:15 |
| apachelogger | completely weird | 20:15 |
| shadeslayer | i'm off to sleep now | 20:15 |
| shadeslayer | night | 20:15 |
| yofel | night | 20:15 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: that paste is wired | 20:20 |
| apachelogger | I know | 20:21 |
| apachelogger | however... might have to do with linking | 20:21 |
| apachelogger | as it builds fine, but then apparently no sis comes out of it | 20:21 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: maybe someone in #qtcreator knows why that fails | 20:21 |
| bulldog98 | s/qtcreator/qt/ | 20:22 |
| kubotu | bulldog98 meant: "apachelogger: maybe someone in #qt knows why that fails" | 20:22 |
| apachelogger | unlikely unless they wanna read all the code :P | 20:23 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: force ossi to do so and be the might with you :P | 20:26 |
| apachelogger | hm | 20:26 |
| apachelogger | it might have to do with how we fake include libqcalparser into our source tree | 20:26 |
| apachelogger | oh yes | 20:26 |
| apachelogger | bingo | 20:26 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: fixed it? | 20:27 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/uds_unsigned_qt-4_7_3_symbian3.sis | 20:27 |
| apachelogger | try that | 20:27 |
| apachelogger | well, since there is an api to be used in the future, I do not really have to worry much about qcalparser integration I suppose | 20:28 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: problem is with only the sis deployment is not working | 20:29 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: why? | 20:29 |
| apachelogger | you just need to install the sis on your file | 20:29 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: ? | 20:29 |
| apachelogger | the sis is a symbian binary package | 20:30 |
| apachelogger | you should just be able to install it | 20:30 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: including all libs and stuff? | 20:30 |
| apachelogger | there are no requirements | 20:30 |
| apachelogger | that sis contains everything you need | 20:30 |
| apachelogger | (except for Qt which is part of symbian^3 anyway) | 20:30 |
| apachelogger | oh noes, I thik I broke the builder ^^ | 20:35 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: I got a cert error | 20:35 |
| apachelogger | you probably have to allow installation of self-signed sis somehwere? | 20:36 |
| bulldog98 | ~search symbian^3 allow installation of self-signed sis | 20:37 |
| kubotu | Results for symbian^3 allow installation of self-signed sis: 1. How to sign a .Sis file with Self-Sign Certificate - Nokia Developer Wiki: http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/How_to_sign_a_.Sis_file_with_Self-Sign_Certificate | 2. Qt Creator : Deploying Applications to Symbian Devices: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qtcreator-2.3/creator-deployment-symbian.html | 20:37 |
| kubotu | 3. Qt 4.7: Installing Qt for the Symbian platform: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/stable/install-symbian.html | 20:37 |
| BarkingFish | apachelogger - is that S60 5th ed? | 20:38 |
| apachelogger | no | 20:38 |
| apachelogger | ^3 | 20:38 |
| apachelogger | though we could get it on 5th edition too I think | 20:39 |
| * apachelogger looks | 20:39 | |
| BarkingFish | I used to work on basic stuff for my old S60 3rd ed Nokia E71 | 20:39 |
| apachelogger | hmmm | 20:39 |
| BarkingFish | 5th can't be much harder, I don't know what ^3 is like. | 20:39 |
| apachelogger | actually S60 5th would be tricky | 20:40 |
| apachelogger | it only has qt quick 1.0 | 20:40 |
| apachelogger | and no components | 20:40 |
| BarkingFish | myxzptlk... | 20:40 |
| apachelogger | so we'd have to import those or something | 20:40 |
| apachelogger | whoever wants to do that | 20:40 |
| * apachelogger needs to get a symbian device | 20:40 | |
| allee | ScottK, fabo: I've installed fabo's ppa strigi 0.7.6 libs: added new user. Start indexing of ~ 750 mostly audio files. Cpu and io usage was very log (top and iotop) indexed 1-2 file per sec). IMHO way to much cyptic debug output to .xsession-error. So no obvious problem with the new libs. | 20:40 |
| apachelogger | when is the 701 hitting the shelfs? | 20:41 |
| BarkingFish | apachelogger, Nokia E72 is good, I upgraded to one of those. | 20:41 |
| apachelogger | hm, 701 in Q3 :S | 20:42 |
| ScottK | rbelem: Did you get your omap thing working for testing Kubuntu stuff? | 20:43 |
| allee | ibus fix: please choose: a) echo "mkdir -p $HOME/.config/ibus/bus" >> /usr/bin/startkde b) mkdir -p /etc/skel/.config/ibus/bus One inotify_add_watch per application start is really too much :( | 20:44 |
| rbelem | ScottK, lately not, but some weeks ago when i got the hole kubuntu-mobile stak running | 20:44 |
| rbelem | stack | 20:44 |
| ScottK | Can you check if you can test images for beta 2? | 20:45 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: I think I'll get myself a symbian dev setup in windows and try to fix it up locally ... still if you could try the sis that would be cool | 20:46 |
| apachelogger | BarkingFish: I was more thinking in the direction of either N8 or 701 | 20:46 |
| * apachelogger likes fastish devices for development so he can write crappy code ^^ | 20:46 | |
| rbelem | ScottK, oki | 20:47 |
| rbelem | :-) | 20:47 |
| ScottK | Thanks. Let me know. | 20:47 |
| ScottK | BarkingFish: New plee-the-bear is in Debian. You might see if you can build it in oneiric and request a sync if it does. | 20:48 |
| * ScottK is going out for the evening. | 20:48 | |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: what have you done, to get it working, could you commit that to a branch, so I can build it myself? | 20:57 |
| apachelogger | nope | 20:57 |
| apachelogger | too messy | 20:57 |
| apachelogger | well | 20:57 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: then send me a diff | 20:58 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: checkout symbian branch | 21:00 |
| apachelogger | not sure if I replicated the changes properly | 21:00 |
| apachelogger | but I think it should be about the same | 21:00 |
| apachelogger | uh, my new headset is in upper austria | 21:04 |
| * apachelogger hopes for delivery tomorrow | 21:04 | |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: it’s installing | 21:07 |
| apachelogger | yay | 21:07 |
| bambee | apachelogger: pong | 21:08 |
| apachelogger | bambee: touchegg 1.0? | 21:08 |
| bambee | I still wait review for touchegg-gui ^^ | 21:09 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: does it need network for building up the start ui? | 21:09 |
| apachelogger | bambee: screw that, get 1.0 packaged and on revu, get an exception and I'll upload | 21:10 |
| apachelogger | bambee: FWIW 0.3 apparenlty does not work with latest utouch, so we need that fixed | 21:10 |
| bambee | ok | 21:10 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: uds only shows me a blank screen | 21:12 |
| apachelogger | it is broken! | 21:12 |
| apachelogger | god knows why | 21:12 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: you might need to install the symbian qt components | 21:13 |
| apachelogger | however one does that | 21:13 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: installed | 21:13 |
| apachelogger | and it does not work? :O | 21:14 |
| apachelogger | any chance of getting debug output somehow? | 21:14 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: let me test | 21:15 |
| apachelogger | if you add CONFIG += debug in the pro file and deploy via qtcreator you should get debug output in creator | 21:15 |
| apachelogger | or at least on every other target it works like that | 21:15 |
| apachelogger | possible one cannot build with debug on remote compiler though *shrug* | 21:16 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: only problem I have is that deployment does not work | 21:18 |
| apachelogger | why? | 21:18 |
| apachelogger | that does not make sense | 21:18 |
| apachelogger | see qt creator documentation :P | 21:18 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: yep I miss the coda stuff on my N8 | 21:22 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: I even get an error with the simulater: http://paste.kde.org/125479/ | 21:24 |
| apachelogger | with the simulator that is to be expected | 21:24 |
| apachelogger | it is a bit of a fishy thing | 21:24 |
| apachelogger | bulldog98: http://paste.kde.org/125485/ | 21:25 |
| bulldog98 | apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/NPmVBPTr | 21:37 |
| bulldog98 | is that normal with the simulator? | 21:37 |
| apachelogger | screw the stupid simulator | 21:37 |
| apachelogger | and yes | 21:38 |
| apachelogger | that is what hte output should look like | 21:38 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: yo | 22:38 |
| apachelogger | dont yo me, you lost | 22:38 |
| apachelogger | I think | 22:38 |
| apachelogger | also I am drunk | 22:38 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 22:39 |
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