[05:39] <micahg> rekonq is the default browser in maverick+, right?
[05:47] <ScottK> micahg: Yes.
[05:47] <micahg> :(
[05:47] <ScottK> Why?
[05:47] <micahg> well, just tested my qt4-x11 update on maverick and rekonq crashed
[05:47] <ScottK> Oh.
[05:47] <ScottK> It may have done that before.
[05:48] <ScottK> First set of Kubuntu candidate images up for Beta 2 testing http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20110920.6/
[05:48]  * micahg wonders how a default browser could be released with a segfault
[05:48] <ScottK> shadeslayer was busy with exams, IIRC.
[05:48] <ScottK> Actually, IDK, as I almost never use it.
[05:48]  * micahg downgrades to release version to see
[06:00] <micahg> dang, it does segfault with the release version :(
[06:00]  * micahg switches to konqueror
[06:06] <valorie> ScottK: I brought my netbook which was running beta, up to date last night
[06:07] <valorie> if I run another set up updates, is that the equiv. of the Beta 2/rc ?
[06:17] <ScottK> Yes
[06:20] <valorie> cool
[06:51] <bulldog98_> apachelogger: how to compile uds-qml for symbian on my mashine?
[08:04] <bambee> morning
[10:12] <apachelogger> bulldog98: qt creator
[10:12] <apachelogger> also you'll need to remote compile via nokia, as I do not think there is a symbian toolchain on linux
[10:13] <bulldog98> apachelogger: yes that’s what I found out until now, but how can I get an account to use that?
[10:13] <apachelogger> register at developer.nokia.com
[10:14] <bulldog98> apachelogger: where is the button to do so, or am I blind?
[10:15] <apachelogger> bulldog98: https://www.developer.nokia.com/Profile/Join.xhtml?locale=en
[10:15] <bulldog98> apachelogger: thx
[10:17] <venu> hi everyone.i want to create a new option in my kubuntu right-click menu.How shld i write a .desktop file to do this?
[10:19] <bulldog98> venu: this is the developer channel please ask questions for support in #kubuntu
[10:19] <venu> bulldog98: thanx
[10:25] <apachelogger> actually that belongs even less in there than in here :P
[10:26] <apachelogger> bulldog98: what I always find surprising is how much rekonq can crash with such a tiny code base
[10:28] <yofel> well, if you add qtwebkit to that you can enough crash potential ^^
[10:28] <yofel> *can get
[10:31] <apachelogger> ScottK: can you please accept https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-coding https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-postponeds https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-mobile
[10:34] <apachelogger> yofel: except most crashes I get are not in qtwebkit but rekonq
[10:35] <yofel> ah, mine are usually in qtwebkit
[10:35] <yofel> so I hope it becomes actually usable with the rc
[10:35] <apachelogger> oh
[10:35] <apachelogger> on oneiric?
[10:35] <apachelogger> maybe we should push a new rekonq in? :P
[10:35] <yofel> that too ^^
[10:36] <apachelogger> bulldog98: how are settings usually presented on symbian^3?
[10:38] <bulldog98> apachelogger: nokia apps use a popup list
[10:38] <apachelogger> video would be good
[10:39] <apachelogger> interestingly enough the harmattan components are not half bad compared to the symbian ones
[10:39] <apachelogger> on harmattan you can at least get a settings dialog that looks like the others ^^
[10:40] <bulldog98> apachelogger: but even the nokia one are not consitent, so simply do one
[10:41] <apachelogger> bulldog98: well, whatever seems most useful I want
[10:41] <apachelogger> that said... the symbian UX guidelines suggest a wizard like dialog
[10:41] <bulldog98> e.g. Store uses a tab for that, player uses a popup, …
[10:41] <apachelogger> except there is no such thing in the qt components
[10:41] <apachelogger> + it would be jolly ard to build such a wizard without cpp
[10:41] <apachelogger> utter fail
[10:42] <apachelogger> it is like statusbar notifications on harmattan .. you simply cannot trigger them
[10:42] <apachelogger> although for harmattan that is a design flaw from meego
[10:52] <Quintasan_> fml
[10:52] <Quintasan_> I'm ill :/
[10:59] <apachelogger> Quintasan: soft kitty warm kitty littel ball of fur sleepy kitty happy kitty purr purr purr
[11:00] <apachelogger> who wants to do the uds app for android?
[11:01] <nigelb> I thought there already was one.
[11:01] <apachelogger> as with so many things apacheloggerware is superior
[11:01] <nigelb> summit exposes a read-only API now, if it helps anyone who wants to build an app.
[11:01] <apachelogger> also it is written in qt
[11:01] <apachelogger> using throw away UIs
[11:01] <apachelogger> \o/
[11:01] <apachelogger> writing a ui takes like an hour or so
[11:01] <apachelogger> nigelb: oh oh oh
[11:01] <apachelogger> nigelb: tell me more pretty please
[11:01] <nigelb> apachelogger: sec, let me find docs :-)
[11:02] <nigelb> apachelogger: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/summit/rest-api/+merge/75859
[11:02] <nigelb> If you want pretty docs, poke me ~4 hours and I'll sit down and write it :)
[11:05] <apachelogger> haha
[11:05] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: all the work for nothing :P
[11:06] <apachelogger> nigelb: if you had mentioned this last week ... shadeslayer wrote an ical parser :S
[11:14] <nigelb> apachelogger: haha
[11:14] <nigelb> apachelogger: Talk to us!
[11:14] <nigelb> Let us just help you folks :-)
[11:15] <apachelogger> lol
[11:15] <apachelogger> well
[11:15] <apachelogger> I do not think a full switch to the API is much to go for at this point
[11:15]  * apachelogger does not care to implement persistent storage using sql
[11:16] <apachelogger> every time someone writes a line of sql a kitten dies somewhere on planet earth :(
[11:19] <apachelogger> nigelb: something about the api feels fishy TBH
[11:19] <nigelb> apachelogger: what feels fishy?
[11:19] <apachelogger> not sure
[11:19] <nigelb> Its a thin wrapper
[11:19] <apachelogger> perhaps the fact that oen has to use query params
[11:20] <apachelogger> http://summit.ubuntu.com/api/room/?summit=6
[11:20] <nigelb> Yeah, its not a "solid" API
[11:20] <apachelogger> http://summit.ubuntu.com/api/summit/6/room would seem much intuitive
[11:20] <nigelb> Sure, slowly :-)
[11:21] <apachelogger> why? it does exactly the same internally
[11:21] <nigelb> Ther's going to be a summit session at UDS
[11:21] <nigelb> Go there and tell what you want
[11:21] <apachelogger> on http://summit.ubuntu.com/api/summit/6/room you'd then apply your query
[11:21] <nigelb> I'll try to be there remotely as well
[11:22] <apachelogger> so you drilled down from a list of summits to one specific summit's room and then only want rooms that host tracks of "foo"
[11:22] <apachelogger> nigelb: not coming to orlando? :(
[11:22] <nigelb> apachelogger: Nope :(
[11:22] <nigelb> Mostly because it in the US and the visa is a hassle.
[11:23] <apachelogger> yeah, stupid visas
[11:23]  * apachelogger is fortunate enough to not require a proper visa
[11:24] <apachelogger> oh, my new headset is in austria
[11:25] <apachelogger> nigelb: something that I can request right now ... it would be super awesome if summit provided a map of the venue
[11:27] <apachelogger> nigelb: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/uds-qml3.mp4
[11:27] <nigelb> apachelogger: let me open a bug. I understand how that can be helpful.
[11:29] <nigelb> apachelogger: We already have a bug :-) bug 668540
[11:33]  * apachelogger thinks about doing a blunt on-disk json cache
[11:33] <apachelogger> I do not think there is much benefit from throwing stuff into a database really
[11:34] <apachelogger> with a simple json cache we can transparently serve urls from cache
[12:36] <ScottK> apachelogger: Done.
[13:03] <shadeslayer> aw
[13:03] <shadeslayer> boo
[13:06] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i condem you to use our parser, thou shall not use summit API :P
[13:07] <apachelogger> ok
[13:07] <apachelogger> :P
[13:07] <apachelogger> ScottK: thx
[13:07] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/b0Aij.png
[13:07] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: android app? is that in QML?
[13:08] <apachelogger> yep
[13:08] <apachelogger> now pushed
[13:08] <apachelogger> someone should write android components
[13:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you should totally port to ipone
[13:18] <apachelogger> you can actually reuse the main.qml from android it uses plain qtquick 1.0
[13:18] <shadeslayer> iphone? What a rubbish platform
[13:19] <apachelogger> http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/08/09/update-on-uikit-lighthouse-platform/
[13:19] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: my sister has a iPad and i got bored after 2 hours
[13:19] <shadeslayer> there's *nothing* to do
[13:19] <apachelogger> except run your uds app on it ^^
[13:19] <shadeslayer> it was designed to do one job and one job only, make money by selling apps
[13:19] <shadeslayer> heh
[13:20] <apachelogger> anywho, I would reall appreciate if you could try to deploy it there
[13:20] <apachelogger> should be relatively easy as you can just put everything into the binary
[13:20] <apachelogger> also see qml/android.qrc
[13:20] <shadeslayer> sure, i can try, if i manage to figure out how to do it
[13:21] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: the qt labs post explains how to get a lighthose setup and all that stuff
[13:21] <shadeslayer> yep, will try over the weekend
[13:21] <apachelogger> splendid
[13:21] <shadeslayer> my profs have loaded me up for the week right now
[13:23]  * apachelogger waves fist
[13:24] <shadeslayer> fooey, will have to clone Qt, and download the SDK
[13:24] <shadeslayer> that is like a ton of download right there
[13:31] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: on iOS side, what needs doing?
[13:32] <shadeslayer> i haz a iOS developer friend, i could probably ask him for help to set everything up
[13:32] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: nothing
[13:32] <apachelogger> that is what the blog post suggests
[13:32] <shadeslayer> oh, just testing stuff?
[13:32] <apachelogger> yeah, proof of concept
[13:33] <apachelogger> unless you actually want to do the development
[13:33] <shadeslayer> alright, i'll try it over the weekend
[13:33] <shadeslayer> no thanks :P
[13:33] <apachelogger> which probably involves writing ios qt components
[13:33] <shadeslayer> heh
[13:33] <apachelogger> which is surely a PITA
[13:33] <apachelogger> though not as much as on android I'd say
[13:33] <shadeslayer> cloning Qt will be a PITA 
[13:33] <shadeslayer> i'm pretty sure i'll time out a couple of times 
[13:33] <apachelogger> :D
[13:34] <shadeslayer> i tried to clone qtwebkit once
[13:34] <shadeslayer> on a 256kbp connection
[13:34] <shadeslayer> not pretty
[13:34] <apachelogger> well
[13:34] <apachelogger> bulldog98 is on 56k or something
[13:34] <apachelogger> so stop whining :P
[13:35] <shadeslayer> i know the feeling
[13:35] <shadeslayer> i had 56k 5 years back :P
[13:35] <shadeslayer> still have the US Robotics modem with me
[13:35] <shadeslayer> iirc i video called someone in the US with Yahoo + 56k modem
[13:47] <skfin> hmm...
[13:47] <skfin> a video call + 56k modem is not a possible combination
[13:48] <shadeslayer> in 2003 it was
[13:48] <skfin> Hmm
[13:48] <skfin> So you did listen to a 8-bit voice and two pixels?
[13:49] <shadeslayer> well, i had a VGA webcam back then, :P
[13:49] <shadeslayer> so something like, 1 frame every 10 seconds
[13:49] <skfin> VGA is 640x480 so its just too much for 56k modem itself :)
[13:49] <shadeslayer> and i used to go, OMG THAT GUY IS MOVING AND I CAN SEE HIM
[14:03] <apachelogger> !find pcre.h
[14:08] <shadeslayer> finally
[14:09] <shadeslayer> portal download
[14:09] <shadeslayer> started :D
[14:17] <apachelogger> http://paste.kde.org/124579/
[14:17] <apachelogger> weeh
[14:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I thought you had work to do? :P
[14:33] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: sure, i'm doing that, but portal is downloading as well
[14:33]  * shadeslayer is studying about 8051 micro controller registers
[14:33] <apachelogger> gross
[14:35] <shadeslayer> gross for you, coursework for me
[14:57] <bulldog98> apachelogger: why can’t I use a paint(int, int, QPixmap) in an selfwritten QDeclarativeItem?
[15:00] <apachelogger> bulldog98: show me code
[15:00] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: what am i supposed to do in the workitem for neon?
[15:03] <apachelogger> I dunno
[15:03] <apachelogger> maybe it was Quintasan who added that
[15:03]  * apachelogger does not even know what it means
[15:04] <bulldog98> apachelogger: kde:scratch/kolberg/kardsloader
[15:04] <bulldog98> apachelogger: that’s the lib
[15:06] <bulldog98> apachelogger: kde:scratch/kolberg/doppelkopf-qml is a small test project
[15:06] <apachelogger> hm
[15:06] <apachelogger> should just work
[15:06] <apachelogger> as long as qpixmap is actually a valid one
[15:06] <bulldog98> apachelogger: problem is it says QPixmap: It is not safe to use pixmaps outside the GUI thread
[15:07] <bulldog98> but I consider QML a Gui thread
[15:07] <bulldog98> or an extend to that
[15:07]  * apachelogger points out that this assumption is not true for qtquick2
[15:08] <bulldog98> apachelogger: but how can I get the card out off that cache?
[15:12] <apachelogger> bulldog98: QPixmap: It is not safe to use pixmaps outside the GUI thread
[15:12] <apachelogger> that appears before paint is even called
[15:12] <bulldog98> I know that
[15:12] <bulldog98> I guess it’s somewhere in the cache
[15:13] <bulldog98> since I do not use QPixmap anywhere
[15:14] <bulldog98> it’s tiggerd in m_cache->loadTheme(…)
[15:15] <bulldog98> even if I move that into paint that error is thrown
[15:15] <fabo> debfx: bug 854330
[15:16] <apachelogger> bulldog98: that function is threaded
[15:16] <apachelogger> hence the warning
[15:16] <bulldog98> hm
[15:16] <bulldog98> it’s from the kdegames lib
[15:17] <bulldog98> maybe I should ask in #kdegames for help
[15:20] <bulldog98> still kpat and lskat should get the same error if they call that
[15:20] <bulldog98> but they get pixmaps and I don’t get pixmaps
[15:21] <Riddell> fabo: ah hah, that might explain why file search has stopped doing anything
[15:22] <bulldog98> apachelogger: now I managed to get rid of the QPixmap stuff
[15:23] <fabo> Riddell: :) it introduces also some new stream support using ffmpeg
[15:25] <apachelogger> bulldog98: how?
[15:25] <bulldog98> apachelogger: see the new commit
[15:25] <bulldog98> somehow it was due a missing ->set…Theme() call
[15:26] <bulldog98> but now I think my themename is wrong
[15:26] <apachelogger> I think you are using libkdegames wrong
[15:44] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Certainly it was not me
[15:45] <Quintasan> apachelogger: One of Polish users report brekage in packages
[15:45] <Quintasan> plasma-widget-metworkmanagement conflicts with network-manager-kde and network-manager-kde requires  plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[15:46] <bulldog98> apachelogger: maybe
[15:50] <bulldog98> apachelogger: but at least I managed to get the plugin build and installed with cmake :)
[15:51] <shadeslayer> btw
[15:51] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: Blueprint changed by Harald Sitter:
[15:51] <shadeslayer> - [kubuntu-members] Give Neon a public purpose: TODO
[15:51] <shadeslayer> + [shadeslayer] Give Neon a public purpose: TODO
[15:51] <apachelogger> someone was talking about that at UDS
[15:51] <apachelogger> or the item would not be there
[15:51] <shadeslayer> someone explain that to me
[15:51] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: listen to the uds discussion
[15:51] <shadeslayer> ah righto
[15:52] <apachelogger> or maybe the notes have more details
[15:52] <apachelogger> see wiki link or something on the blueprint
[15:52] <shadeslayer> will check
[15:52] <bulldog98> is already uds?
[15:52] <apachelogger> no
[15:52] <apachelogger> app is not finished :P
[15:52] <apachelogger> so it cannot be uds
[15:53] <apachelogger> bulldog98: did you deploy onto symbian yet?
[15:53] <shadeslayer> "This page does not exist. If you feel that this is an error, please file a bug"
[15:53] <bulldog98> apachelogger: no, I had my new account in spam folder
[15:53] <shadeslayer> awesome
[15:54] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: that’s good
[15:55] <shadeslayer> i'll have a look on the weeken
[15:55] <shadeslayer> s/weeken/weekend/
[15:55] <kubotu> shadeslayer meant: "i'll have a look on the weekend"
[15:56] <shadeslayer> hrm
[15:56] <shadeslayer> yofel: digikam still being worked upon?
[16:13] <apachelogger> bulldog98: lol
[16:14] <bulldog98> apachelogger: even better nokia warned that that could happen. I guess they setup their mail server wrong
[16:14] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[16:16] <bulldog98> fabo: is that fixed now?
[16:21] <bulldog98> apachelogger: what pass do I have to type in into the remote compiler setup?
[16:33] <apachelogger> bulldog98: the one from developer.nokia.com
[16:33] <allee> about nepomuk and strigi: in http://trueg.wordpress.com/2011/09/19/nepomuk-what-comes-next-revised/  in a comment   it's mentioned "..2. If it’s 0.7.2, FILE A BUG IN YOUR DISTRO..".    Oneiric and Project Neon still seem to use 0.7.2.    
[16:43] <fabo> bulldog98: what's the context? :) "is that fixed now?"
[16:45] <fabo> allee: bug 854330
[16:45] <fabo> allee: oneiric need a sync request
[16:45] <shadeslayer> dcmtk won't make it into main
[16:45] <shadeslayer> was required for KOffice
[16:46] <shadeslayer> but since we won't be usnig KOffice anymore
[16:46] <shadeslayer> *using
[16:49] <allee> fabo: great!  Can you do a ppa build so 'we' can test it, like with bluedevil.  I assume as it's late in release cycle a simple sync request is not enough
[16:50] <allee> ScottK: ^^ libstrigi & co  ??
[16:53] <shadeslayer> omg
[16:53] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://googleplusplatform.blogspot.com/2011/09/introducing-google-hangouts-api.html
[17:00] <apachelogger> yay
[17:00] <apachelogger> more prn
[17:00] <ScottK> allee: Yes.  Please (testing)
[17:11] <apachelogger> Sput: ping
[17:11] <apachelogger> Sput: I said ping!!! :P
[17:17] <yofel> shadeslayer: not by me at least right now, someone still needs to fix the stuff debfx complained about
[17:21] <fabo> allee: uploaded to https://launchpad.net/~fboudra/+archive/kde
[17:22] <debfx> yofel, shadeslayer: I think putting the libraries into own packages and overriding their version might actually be the best option
[17:23] <yofel> I put them seperately to prevent file conflicts later, but I don't know how to override the versions (and have no time for at least the next 2 days to look it up)
[17:25] <bulldog98> fabo: exectly that bug 854330
[17:38] <bulldog98> has somebody an idea what https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/766145 is about?
[17:44] <debfx> bulldog98: looks like a duplicate of bug #798091
[17:45] <yofel> allee: thanks for mentioning it, I'll try to update it in neon (we can't built it from git since bzr-git doesn't support submodules)
[17:45] <bulldog98> debfx: should we fix that?
[17:45] <debfx> systemsettings reverts to kde default values ignoring kubuntu-default-settings
[17:45] <debfx> bulldog98: sure if you know how
[17:48] <bulldog98> debfx: I guess we need to patch the *.kcfgc files to include our defaults, but that would mean, that you can’t get default kde settings
[17:49] <bulldog98> in the kcms
[17:54] <debfx> bulldog98: the proper solution would be to teach the code to take config file cascading into account
[17:55] <bulldog98> debfx: that isn’t possible, cause the reset feature only uses the .kcfgc files, which is intended
[17:56] <bulldog98> it should only take .kcfgc files in account, since everything else is not default
[17:56] <debfx> bulldog98: so we need to change the reset feature
[17:57] <debfx> that's certainly not what users expect
[17:57] <bulldog98> debfx: should we teach it to also use our system config path?
[17:57] <bulldog98> debfx++
[18:02] <debfx> I guess it should take all config paths into account except the kde home dir
[18:05] <bulldog98> debfx: yes, we would need to do that upstream I guess
[18:23] <skfin> Hmm...either kcolorpicker hasnt been yet synced to finnish update mirror or it is strangely missing
[18:24] <skfin> apt-get returns 404
[18:24] <skfin> Well, doesnt actually return but the download process returns 404
[18:24] <apachelogger> I once had a 404
[18:24] <apachelogger> got it on ebay for 0.50 EUR
[18:24] <apachelogger> it broke after one week
[18:25] <skfin> Ok.
[18:25] <skfin> I can sell you this one
[18:26] <apachelogger> no, I don't want another one
[18:26] <apachelogger> I grew really close with my old one
[18:27] <apachelogger> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kcolorchooser/4:4.7.1-0ubuntu2
[18:27] <apachelogger> skfin: mirror might be updating right now
[18:27] <skfin> Yea
[18:27] <apachelogger> it happens
[18:28] <apachelogger> hold on to your 404 while it lasts
[18:28] <skfin> But Trumpetti is my favourite server and my really close friend, I wont let it down for just one 404
[18:29] <skfin> And it's just 23km away and ping to there is 16ms
[18:30] <apachelogger> something tells me roundtrip with backbone server is kiling the speed there :P
[18:31] <skfin> Ah. Now it doesnt give me 404
[18:31] <apachelogger> :(
[18:31] <skfin> trumpetti.atm.tut.fi
[18:31] <apachelogger> another 404 scared away
[18:32] <skfin> Tampere University of Technologies :)
[18:32] <skfin> trumpetti <3
[18:32] <apachelogger> university, I have heared of this place, they have partees there
[18:34] <apachelogger> after all this rubbish talk I feel like champagne
[18:38] <yofel> bulldog98: anything blocking the soprano backport? or did you just not get to it yet?
[18:38] <bulldog98> yofel: shadeslayer said he was working on it
[18:41] <yofel> k
[19:07] <shadeslayer> something *was* blocking the soprano backport, but i don't remember what it was anymore
[19:08] <shadeslayer> some other package that needed backporting or sth
[19:08] <shadeslayer> and someone is trying to bruteforce their way in
[19:08] <shadeslayer> via ssh
[19:09] <yofel> lemme, guess, you have ssh listening on port 22 and 22 forwarded?
[19:10] <shadeslayer> ssh is running on 22 :P
[19:10] <shadeslayer> haven't put in a custom port yet
[19:11] <shadeslayer> i should probably do that
[19:15] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: pingpingping
[19:15] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you coming to uds?
[19:15] <apachelogger> is Quintasan coming to uds?
[19:15]  * yofel isn't coming to UDS
[19:15]  * apachelogger waves fist
[19:15]  * bulldog98 neighter
[19:16] <apachelogger> y you people never come to the uds?
[19:16] <apachelogger> despite me writing cool apps
[19:16] <apachelogger> bulldog98: did you deploy on symbian yet?
[19:16] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: nope
[19:16] <bulldog98> apachelogger: nope, I don’t know which pass to tipe into the configuration of remote compiler
[19:16] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: i have my GRE exam during UDS
[19:18] <apachelogger> oh dear
[19:18] <apachelogger> bulldog98: your nokia developer account details
[19:18] <micahg> apachelogger: you coming to UDS?
[19:18]  * bulldog98 tries again last time I tried it didn’t work
[19:19] <apachelogger> micahg: yup
[19:19] <micahg> apachelogger: great!
[19:19] <apachelogger> \o/
[19:19] <apachelogger> bulldog98: http://i.imgur.com/8s56c.png
[19:20] <apachelogger> bulldog98: http://i.imgur.com/o5a42.png
[19:20] <bulldog98> apachelogger: me forgot to add the username to the lineedit :(
[19:20] <apachelogger> lol
[19:28] <bulldog98> apachelogger: how do I deploy to my device?
[19:28] <apachelogger> bulldog98: see documentation
[19:28] <apachelogger> help tab in qtcreator
[19:36] <bulldog98> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/125371/
[19:40] <Sput> apachelogger: wot.
[19:41] <maco> who from kubuntu will be at uds?
[19:41] <maco> obv i can safely assume scott & riddell
[19:42] <apachelogger> maco: no scott, busy with work he is
[19:42] <maco> mrow?
[19:42] <apachelogger> maco: jr, claydoh, DarkwingDuck and me from what I know thus far
[19:42] <maco> scott...ever...misses uds?
[19:42] <apachelogger> Quintasan if he can get a visa
[19:42] <apachelogger> maco: apparently so
[19:43] <maco> this has to be the first uds scott's missed in at least 3 years
[19:43] <apachelogger> incidentially enough I need to find a new drinking partner :(
[19:43] <apachelogger> maco: you coming? did you add yourself to the wiki yet? :P
[19:43] <maco> i dont know
[19:43] <claydoh> lol apachelogger I could take drinking up as a new hobby
[19:44] <claydoh> buy I am not good at it
[19:44] <apachelogger> bulldog98: and that is all? :O
[19:44] <apachelogger> Sput: nvm, markey seems to have fallen asleep
[19:44] <apachelogger> he wanted to do hangoutz
[19:44] <nigelb> g55
[19:44] <bulldog98> apachelogger: yes. I would say remote compiler has a bug
[19:44] <apachelogger> bulldog98: I'll try in a minute or two
[19:44] <maco> nigelb: having a fight with your irc client?
[19:45] <apachelogger> claydoh: about time then :P
[19:45] <nigelb> maco: nah
[19:52] <apachelogger> nigelb: btw, I wrote a simple app using the api earlier today
[19:52] <apachelogger> should be jolly easy to make the app use the api
[19:53] <apachelogger> qt quick is awesome like that
[19:53] <nigelb> apachelogger: \m/
[19:53] <nigelb> ROCK ON
[19:54] <Sput> apachelogger: as usual
[19:54] <Sput> awake?
[19:54] <ScottK> apachelogger is always awake.
[19:54] <ScottK> The question, is, is he sober enough to type.
[19:55] <apachelogger> Sput: :D :D :D :D
[19:55] <nigelb> ScottK: hahaha
[19:56] <apachelogger> ScottK: I think Sput was referring to a joke only elitist google hangouters understand :P
[19:56] <Sput> yes, I was indeed
[19:58] <BarkingFish> evening guys :)
[19:59] <BarkingFish> I'm pretty much back to full fitness and ready to get back on with some work.  Anyone got anything they need build testing, debugging or generally unborking?
[19:59] <apachelogger> bulldog98: oh, there is some weirdness with the remote compiler
[19:59] <bulldog98> BarkingFish: do you run oneiric?
[19:59] <bulldog98> apachelogger: yeah
[20:00] <apachelogger> Build Failed: Zipping failed: file to open is a directory (/home/me/src/git/uds/qml/core)
[20:00] <apachelogger> wtf
[20:00] <BarkingFish> bulldog98, no - natty, but I have pbuilder set up to work on both
[20:00] <bulldog98> BarkingFish: ok no problem
[20:00] <apachelogger> Sput: y ur company distributes broken software? :P
[20:01] <bulldog98> Sput: fix that :P
[20:01] <bulldog98> like now
[20:01] <BarkingFish> hi ScottK :)
[20:01] <apachelogger> really weird
[20:01] <yofel> shadeslayer: any ETA for soprano? If not I'll either do it myself or use the old one
[20:01] <ScottK> BarkingFish: Hello.
[20:02] <bulldog98> yofel: ETA?
[20:02] <Sput> apachelogger: what?
[20:02] <yofel> bulldog98: estimated time of arrival?
[20:02] <apachelogger> Sput: remote compiler in qtcreator is somewhat flimsy
[20:02] <bulldog98> yofel: k
[20:03] <Sput> apachelogger: not my realm :)
[20:03] <Sput> pester ossi!
[20:03]  * apachelogger is scared of ossi
[20:03]  * bulldog98 too
[20:03] <apachelogger> bulldog98: actually it works with a clean project, so there is something in the pro file that makes it fall over
[20:03] <apachelogger> I wonder what though
[20:03] <apachelogger> very weird
[20:03] <apachelogger> maybe it inspects the qml files, though that'd be weird
[20:04] <bulldog98> apachelogger: maybe you could get ossi interessted enought to fix that
[20:04] <bulldog98> apachelogger: the default project, does it have subfolder in the qml folder?
[20:04] <apachelogger> yes
[20:04] <apachelogger> but only one
[20:05] <apachelogger> what I do not understand... why does qt creator not simply zip up the entire tree and ship it off
[20:05] <apachelogger> very curious
[20:05] <apachelogger> bambee: ping
[20:05] <bulldog98> apachelogger: do you know who wrote that peace of software?
[20:06] <apachelogger> the berlin qt team
[20:06] <apachelogger> I guess, as they make all of qtcreator
[20:06] <apachelogger> oh
[20:06] <apachelogger> actually Mowhi
[20:07] <bulldog98> apachelogger: how did you find that out?
[20:07] <apachelogger> secret
[20:08] <apachelogger> well then
[20:09] <apachelogger> I do not think it has to do withthe sub dirs
[20:09] <apachelogger> I created a sub dir in a blank project and it did not trip over it
[20:10] <apachelogger> whoop whoop
[20:10] <shadeslayer> yofel: nope, i won't be able to look at it before tomorrow
[20:10] <bulldog98> apachelogger: I found it out too
[20:10] <apachelogger> something is broken with the pro file
[20:10] <apachelogger> which is actually surprising
[20:10] <apachelogger> eh
[20:10] <apachelogger> not
[20:10] <yofel> shadeslayer: k, I'll wait then, won't have much time tomorrow anyway
[20:11] <shadeslayer> sure
[20:11] <apachelogger> eh
[20:12] <apachelogger> bulldog98: it falls over my excessive if else stuff
[20:12] <apachelogger> very weird
[20:12] <apachelogger> also it fails to build for no apparent reason
[20:12] <shadeslayer> soprano will probably take some time as well because it doesn't have alot of the build deps satisfied iirc
[20:13] <yofel> there's redland etc. already in backports if you need it
[20:13] <yofel> just copy it over
[20:15] <shadeslayer> again, don't remember, will look tomorrow
[20:15] <apachelogger> http://paste.kde.org/125431/
[20:15] <apachelogger> completely weird
[20:15] <shadeslayer> i'm off to sleep now
[20:15] <shadeslayer> night
[20:15] <yofel> night
[20:20] <bulldog98> apachelogger: that paste is wired
[20:21] <apachelogger> I know
[20:21] <apachelogger> however... might have to do with linking
[20:21] <apachelogger> as it builds fine, but then apparently no sis comes out of it
[20:21] <bulldog98> apachelogger: maybe someone in #qtcreator knows why that fails
[20:22] <bulldog98> s/qtcreator/qt/
[20:22] <kubotu> bulldog98 meant: "apachelogger: maybe someone in #qt knows why that fails"
[20:23] <apachelogger> unlikely unless they wanna read all the code :P
[20:26] <bulldog98> apachelogger: force ossi to do so and be the might with you :P
[20:26] <apachelogger> hm
[20:26] <apachelogger> it might have to do with how we fake include libqcalparser into our source tree
[20:26] <apachelogger> oh yes
[20:26] <apachelogger> bingo
[20:27] <bulldog98> apachelogger: fixed it?
[20:27] <apachelogger> bulldog98: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/uds_unsigned_qt-4_7_3_symbian3.sis
[20:27] <apachelogger> try that
[20:28] <apachelogger> well, since there is an api to be used in the future, I do not really have to worry much about qcalparser integration I suppose
[20:29] <bulldog98> apachelogger: problem is with only the sis deployment is not working
[20:29] <apachelogger> bulldog98: why?
[20:29] <apachelogger> you just need to install the sis on your file
[20:29] <bulldog98> apachelogger: ?
[20:30] <apachelogger> the sis is a symbian binary package
[20:30] <apachelogger> you should just be able to install it
[20:30] <bulldog98> apachelogger: including all libs and stuff?
[20:30] <apachelogger> there are no requirements
[20:30] <apachelogger> that sis contains everything you need
[20:30] <apachelogger> (except for Qt which is part of symbian^3 anyway)
[20:35] <apachelogger> oh noes, I thik I broke the builder ^^
[20:35] <bulldog98> apachelogger: I got a cert error
[20:36] <apachelogger> you probably have to allow installation of self-signed sis somehwere?
[20:37] <bulldog98> ~search symbian^3 allow installation of self-signed sis
[20:37] <kubotu> Results for symbian^3 allow installation of self-signed sis: 1. How to sign a .Sis file with Self-Sign Certificate - Nokia Developer Wiki: http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/How_to_sign_a_.Sis_file_with_Self-Sign_Certificate | 2. Qt Creator : Deploying Applications to Symbian Devices: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qtcreator-2.3/creator-deployment-symbian.html
[20:37] <kubotu> 3. Qt 4.7: Installing Qt for the Symbian platform: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/stable/install-symbian.html
[20:38] <BarkingFish> apachelogger - is that S60 5th ed?
[20:38] <apachelogger> no
[20:38] <apachelogger> ^3
[20:39] <apachelogger> though we could get it on 5th edition too I think
[20:39]  * apachelogger looks
[20:39] <BarkingFish> I used to work on basic stuff for my old S60 3rd ed Nokia E71
[20:39] <apachelogger> hmmm
[20:39] <BarkingFish> 5th can't be much harder, I don't know what ^3 is like.
[20:40] <apachelogger> actually S60 5th would be tricky
[20:40] <apachelogger> it only has qt quick 1.0
[20:40] <apachelogger> and no components
[20:40] <BarkingFish> myxzptlk...
[20:40] <apachelogger> so we'd have to import those or something
[20:40] <apachelogger> whoever wants to do that
[20:40]  * apachelogger needs to get a symbian device
[20:40] <allee> ScottK, fabo: I've installed fabo's ppa strigi 0.7.6 libs: added new user.  Start indexing of ~ 750 mostly audio files.  Cpu and io usage was very log  (top and iotop)  indexed 1-2 file per sec). IMHO way to much cyptic debug output to .xsession-error.   So no obvious problem with the new libs.
[20:41] <apachelogger> when is the 701 hitting the shelfs?
[20:41] <BarkingFish> apachelogger, Nokia E72 is good, I upgraded to one of those.
[20:42] <apachelogger> hm, 701 in Q3 :S
[20:43] <ScottK> rbelem: Did you get your omap thing working for testing Kubuntu stuff?
[20:44] <allee> ibus fix: please choose:  a)  echo "mkdir -p $HOME/.config/ibus/bus" >> /usr/bin/startkde   b) mkdir -p /etc/skel/.config/ibus/bus      One inotify_add_watch per application start is really too much :(
[20:44] <rbelem> ScottK, lately not, but some weeks ago when i got the hole kubuntu-mobile stak running
[20:44] <rbelem> stack
[20:45] <ScottK> Can you check if you can test images for beta 2?
[20:46] <apachelogger> bulldog98: I think I'll get myself a symbian dev setup in windows and try to fix it up locally ... still if you could try the sis that would be cool
[20:46] <apachelogger> BarkingFish: I was more thinking in the direction of either N8 or 701
[20:46]  * apachelogger likes fastish devices for development so he can write crappy code ^^
[20:47] <rbelem> ScottK, oki
[20:47] <rbelem> :-)
[20:47] <ScottK> Thanks.  Let me know.
[20:48] <ScottK> BarkingFish: New plee-the-bear is in Debian.  You might see if you can build it in oneiric and request a sync if it does.
[20:48]  * ScottK is going out for the evening.
[20:57] <bulldog98> apachelogger: what have you done, to get it working, could you commit that to a branch, so I can build it myself?
[20:57] <apachelogger> nope
[20:57] <apachelogger> too messy
[20:57] <apachelogger> well
[20:58] <bulldog98> apachelogger: then send me a diff
[21:00] <apachelogger> bulldog98: checkout symbian branch
[21:00] <apachelogger> not sure if I replicated the changes properly
[21:00] <apachelogger> but I think it should be about the same
[21:04] <apachelogger> uh, my new headset is in upper austria
[21:04]  * apachelogger hopes for delivery tomorrow
[21:07] <bulldog98> apachelogger: it’s installing
[21:07] <apachelogger> yay
[21:08] <bambee> apachelogger: pong
[21:08] <apachelogger> bambee: touchegg 1.0?
[21:09] <bambee> I still wait review for touchegg-gui ^^
[21:09] <bulldog98> apachelogger: does it need network for building up the start ui?
[21:10] <apachelogger> bambee: screw that, get 1.0 packaged and on revu, get an exception and I'll upload
[21:10] <apachelogger> bambee: FWIW 0.3 apparenlty does not work with latest utouch, so we need that fixed
[21:10] <bambee> ok
[21:12] <bulldog98> apachelogger: uds only shows me a blank screen
[21:12] <apachelogger> it is broken!
[21:12] <apachelogger> god knows why
[21:13] <apachelogger> bulldog98: you might need to install the symbian qt components
[21:13] <apachelogger> however one does that
[21:13] <bulldog98> apachelogger: installed
[21:14] <apachelogger> and it does not work? :O
[21:14] <apachelogger> any chance of getting debug output somehow?
[21:15] <bulldog98> apachelogger: let me test
[21:15] <apachelogger> if you add CONFIG += debug in the pro file and deploy via qtcreator you should get debug output in creator
[21:15] <apachelogger> or at least on every other target it works like that
[21:16] <apachelogger> possible one cannot build with debug on remote compiler though *shrug*
[21:18] <bulldog98> apachelogger: only problem I have is that deployment does not work
[21:18] <apachelogger> why?
[21:18] <apachelogger> that does not make sense
[21:18] <apachelogger> see qt creator documentation :P
[21:22] <bulldog98> apachelogger: yep I miss the coda stuff on my N8
[21:24] <bulldog98> apachelogger: I even get an error with the simulater: http://paste.kde.org/125479/
[21:24] <apachelogger> with the simulator that is to be expected
[21:24] <apachelogger> it is a bit of a fishy thing
[21:25] <apachelogger> bulldog98: http://paste.kde.org/125485/
[21:37] <bulldog98> apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/NPmVBPTr
[21:37] <bulldog98> is that normal with the simulator?
[21:37] <apachelogger> screw the stupid simulator
[21:38] <apachelogger> and yes
[21:38] <apachelogger> that is what hte output should look like
[22:38] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: yo
[22:38] <apachelogger> dont yo me, you lost
[22:38] <apachelogger> I think
[22:38] <apachelogger> also I am drunk
[22:39] <JontheEchidna> lol