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cjohnstonI've installed +1.. When trying to boot for the first time, its hanging at Starting Bluetooth.. any ideas on whats going on or how to fix?02:17
silverarrowhmm02:18
silverarrowdid you check filesum and integrity on cd?02:18
cjohnstonyes02:18
silverarrowgood02:18
silverarrowI once had trouble when I ran updates during install02:19
silverarrowyou know the ones you mark off for02:19
silverarrowmajor grub error02:19
cjohnstonya02:19
cjohnstonim not sure why im hanging at bluetooth02:20
silverarrowwhat are the specs?02:20
cjohnstonon my system? i dont even think it has bluetooth02:20
silverarrowyes, like ram02:21
silverarrowbut if you ran the installer fine, it should all be fine02:21
cjohnston4gb ran, a quad core prox02:22
cjohnstonproc02:22
silverarrowthis is first boot up?02:22
silverarrowplenty02:22
cjohnstonya.. i installed lubuntu... been running ubuntu forever02:22
silverarrowI have ran lubuntu on 3GB and duo core pentium something02:22
silverarrowI like lubuntu02:23
silverarrowI have it on an old laptop with rather minimal specs02:23
cjohnstonctrl alt delete gives me the lubuntu splash screen and then reboots.. but still stops on reboot at bluetooth02:23
silverarrow1GB and not so powerful cpu02:23
phillwcjohnston: I've just had a quick trawl round bugs, I cannot find one that links to your problem.02:27
cjohnston:-/02:27
cjohnstonphillw: it was on todays daily cd02:28
silverarrowvery odd02:28
silverarrowI have sometimes had buggy installs, and a reattempt has resulted in a working os02:29
jmarsdencjohnston: You could try using the Beta1 image instead -- older, but if this is a very new bug, the beta1 ISO might work fine for you.02:29
silverarrowlubuntu install has behaved well for me on different systems, only hp has resisted, and dell02:30
cjohnstonthis is a dell02:30
phillwI have no bluetooth to test the betas on, but as bluetooth is a 'core' part of ubuntu I'd have expected to see it on their reporting system also.02:31
jmarsdenI think that is just the last msg on screen before the hang; I'd guess the hang is actually caused by something else.02:32
silverarrowI have a blue tooth usb thing, and it works fine02:32
cjohnstonjmarsden: any idea whats after bluetooth02:32
silverarrowI thought I had problems with it, but it turned out my printer has some kind of lazer light, not blue tooth lol02:32
cjohnstonit does say bluetooth ok02:33
jmarsdenNot really... I'd have to go dig around the startup scripts to find out, and I'm not "really" on IRC right now (busy with other stuff)...02:33
cjohnstongotcha02:33
cjohnstonwell.. im about to head off to bed, but im on irssi/screen, so I'll be around.. if you think of anything, ping me and I'll check it in the morning.02:34
jmarsdenOK, no promises, but if I come up with something I'll do that.02:34
cjohnstonThanks02:34
silverarrowwhy can't I make my own wallpaper in lubuntu?02:34
cjohnstonill dl b1 too, and then i can try that in the AM02:35
silverarrowfirefox has this simple function for setting any picture as wallpaper, but it will not go on the desktop?02:36
silverarrowcjohnston, it would be great to know how you make stuff work02:36
silverarrowso wallpapers in lubuntu is narrowed down to LXDE's own?02:38
silverarrowsight02:38
jmarsdensilverarrow: Huh?  Right click on the desktop, click Desktop Preferences, click the icon at the right of the "wallpaper" field, then find any JPG file you want and it will become your wallpaper.  No restriction at all to "LXDE's own".02:40
silverarrowjmarsden, I remember the easy FF function worked in ubuntu02:43
jmarsdenI didn't know it existed :)  Desktop prefs is not exactly hard...02:43
jmarsdenBut anyway, I'm not really here... I'm working :)02:44
phillwsilverarrow: lubuntu uses chromium by default, owing to FF being a little bit too bloated :)02:44
silverarrowI see02:44
silverarrowI downloaded FF because of the clever flash video replacer addon02:45
silverarrowonly02:45
silverarrowlol, jmarsden, I am a bit slow sometimes02:45
silverarrowthanks02:45
silverarrowphillw, I'm not stuck on FF, but there are some useful addons02:49
silverarrowthe flash video replacer allows me to stream youtube and some others very well02:50
silverarrowadobe flash player is a bit jerky on minimal specs02:50
phillwsilverarrow: it has taken me a while to pop over to chromium, the clincher for me was when https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bfbameneiokkgbdmiekhjnmfkcnldhhm became available, It is a MUST for me :)02:51
phillwsilverarrow: as flash is on its way out owing to html5, it is not high on my list of must haves. Not only have apple dropped it, but the new tablet version of IE will also use html5 and not support it.02:52
silverarrowlast lubuntu install I stuck with chromium for a couple of months, until I was recommended the flash replacer. I think it is general mozilla so maybe it will be available for chromium?02:53
silverarrowunfortunately html5 runs equally jerky on my old system02:54
silverarrowthe flash video replacer runs seamlessly02:54
phillwhtml5 should run faster than flash?02:54
phillwhttp://www.youtube.com/html502:54
phillwyou can add flash to chromium just as if to FF02:55
silverarrowhmm, maybe I should give it another go02:56
silverarrowI realize I might not get everything to work on this old laptop, at least not ideally02:57
silverarrowat some point, adobe flash player got to heavy02:57
silverarrowit is the only app not running smoothly though02:58
silverarrowhow do I try html5 in chromium then? only ff and opera is listed for linux03:05
jmarsdensilverarrow: In Chromium, browse to the link phillw gave and click "Join HTML5 trial" -- it's that simple.03:06
silverarrowhmm03:06
jmarsdenThen browse to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_l6PYC2B0Wc to see my son play some classical guitar :)03:07
silverarrowstill runs a bit too slow in away03:08
silverarrowhmm, no, it runs fine03:09
silverarrowit just needed a few seconds to get going03:09
silverarrowand this is 700 MHz duron03:10
silverarrowI would say the flash replace is even better03:11
silverarrowbut only on minimal specs03:11
phillwjmarsden: tomorrow he will be back asking how to get Blu-Ray to work :P03:11
silverarrowI shall add html5 to my other system to try, it is more normal03:12
silverarrowis there a difference between Chrome and Chromium?03:20
jmarsdensilverarrow: yes.  Chrome is proprietary closed source, Chromium is open source.  Chrome has a few extras in it that Chromium does not... but I don't even know what they are :)03:21
silverarrowoh I see03:22
silverarrowfickely issues03:22
silverarrowthis is the addon I like http://www.webgapps.org/add-ons/flashvideoreplacer03:24
daniel__hey, i'm back ;)03:45
rezbdwelcome back03:45
daniel__(hopefully lubuntu release fixes the wlan problem of choosing sta instead of b43 ;) )03:45
daniel__anyway, still hoping to get some information about PCManFM03:46
daniel__my problem: i'm trying to get PCManFM to show thumbnails from raw photos03:46
daniel__(*.cr2)03:47
daniel__I now generated the thumbnails by myself but they still doesn't get displayed. Do i need to register what kind of files got thumbnails to display? Shouldn't it just search in ~thumbnails if there exist something?03:48
jmarsdendaniel__: I'm not sure, but reading the code will tell you.  There may be a fixed set of file types that it does thembnails for, somewhere??03:48
daniel__jmarsden,  you might be right and i am on my way to download the libfm source :)03:50
rezbdjmarsden: good evening sir. how are you doing? :)03:51
jmarsdenrezbd: I'm fine, kind of busy tonight with real life stuff, joining in here once in a while "unofficially" :)03:51
rezbdsounds like dinner party ;p03:52
rezbdjmarsden: sir let me know when you are free, I have to ask you something about bluetooth activation04:05
jmarsdenrezbd: I'm not really "sir" :)   Have you read and worked with the ideas in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup04:15
rezbdok SIR, gonna check it out :))04:16
jmarsden:)04:16
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rezbdI don't understand. everything is ok but why i don't find the bluetooth device :|04:39
rezbdrezwan@rezwan-NF108-NF208:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart04:39
rezbd * Stopping bluetooth                                                   [ OK ]04:39
rezbd * Starting bluetooth                                                   [ OK ]04:39
rezbdrezwan@rezwan-NF108-NF208:~$04:39
rezbdjmarsden: sir are you awake right now? :)04:42
jmarsdenYes...04:47
jmarsdenSo... what does    hcitool dev   say?  Did it find your device?04:48
rezbdI have followed this procedure:04:49
rezbdOlder documentation:Before you beginĀ open up the terminal and type the following:sudo apt-get install bluez && sudo apt-get install bluez-utilsRestart the bluetooth server to ensure your pc can communicate with a bluetooth devicesudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart04:49
rezbdjmarsden: hcitool dev have found my device but..04:50
rezbdok I'm gonna run it agin from the beginning to show you the results04:50
rezbdjmarsden: yes it has found04:52
rezbdrezwan@rezwan-NF108-NF208:~$ hcitool dev04:52
rezbdDevices:04:52
rezbdhci0B4:74:9F:8E:8D:1D04:52
rezbdhci100:1F:81:00:02:5004:52
rezbdrezwan@rezwan-NF108-NF208:~$04:52
jmarsdenOK, so... hmm, you have two :) OK, so what exactly is the problem?04:53
rezbdbut then it shows rezwan@rezwan-NF108-NF208:~$ sudo bluez-simple-agent hci0 B4:74:9F:8E:8D:1D04:54
rezbd[sudo] password for rezwan:04:54
rezbdRelease04:54
rezbdCreating device failed: org.bluez.Error.ConnectionAttemptFailed: Page Timeout04:54
rezbdrezwan@rezwan-NF108-NF208:~$04:54
rezbdactually I have aslo connected an external bluetooth device at usb :p04:55
rezbdthat's why it's showing two04:55
daniel__ok, i'm now trying to compile libfm so i get some debug output: My Problem - i see many "DEBUG()" prints in the source and i don't know how to compile that using dpkg-buildpackage so i see that DEBUG() macro output04:55
daniel__(libfm = backend from PCManFM)04:55
daniel__(the compile itself worked nicely - only missing the debug outputs)04:56
jmarsdenrezbd: (I only have about 10 minutes more I can stay here... not trying to rush you, just bad timing)... the ID you need to give to bluez-simle-agent is the ID of the "other end", the remote wireless device...04:56
jmarsdenI think!04:56
rezbdok sir. good night04:57
jmarsdenrezbd: Can you put the remote bluetooth device that you want to connect to into a mode where it is discoverable, and then do   hcitool scan04:57
rezbdhope to talk with you later :)04:57
rezbdah ok04:58
rezbdi'm gonna look for it04:58
rezbdwow04:59
rezbdezwan@rezwan-NF108-NF208:~$ hcitool scan04:59
rezbdScanning ...04:59
rezbd34:7E:39:2E:D5:81Nokia 2700 classic04:59
rezbdrezwan@rezwan-NF108-NF208:~$04:59
rezbdthat's my mobile phone :)04:59
jmarsdenrezbd: So it is working fine :)04:59
daniel__(ok, trying DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=debug now)04:59
rezbdjmarsden: but i don't see any option to connect with it :(05:00
jmarsdendaniel__: I'm not sure that is what you need, more likely you need a way to set a DEBUG flag in a Makefile or something along those lines; I think the option you are trying is for building dbg packages that have symbol tables for debugging...05:00
rezbdany indicator or something like that05:01
jmarsdenrezbd: Read the rest of the page I pointed you at.  I don't know what GUI interface exists for bluetooth in Lubuntu, I have not tried it... but you can probably do something using   sudo bluez-simple-agent hci0 34:7E:39:2E:D5:8105:01
jmarsdenand so forth...05:02
rezbdok sir. good night :)05:02
rezbdsweet dreams05:02
jmarsdenGoodnight :)05:02
cjohnstonWhat would be the command to start up the desktop with lubuntu?12:30
cjohnstonphillw: jmarsden by installing b1 I was able to boot up into lubuntu.. now to run updates and see if it lasts.13:08
phillwcjohnston: cool :)13:09
cjohnstonphillw: am I missing something, or does the monitor display settings not allow me to setup and have two monitors running where one is not just a clone of the other?13:11
phillwcjohnston: I still use grandr.. not sure if I should, but it works for me :)13:21
cjohnstonjust apt-get install grandr?13:22
phillwcjohnston: http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=8413:22
phillwthat should do it :)13:22
cjohnstonI was enjoying 11.04 on my desktop, but unity is now kinda a requirement (you cant boot into classic) so here I am.. lol13:23
phillwI have 11.10 in a Virtual Machine.13:24
cjohnstonI still have it on my laptop, and do quite like unity.. but using synergy between my desktop and laptop, having the unity bar in the middle was a pain13:25
bioterrorbut isnt unity like OS X13:43
bioterrorand everybody wants Mac's13:44
bioterrorI've seen it on television and movies13:44
bioterrorand in my work all the people in the offices are talking about how mac's are fast and no problems13:44
bioterror;)13:44
bioterrorso unity cannot be that bad?13:44
cjohnstonphillw: after doing all of my updates, I'm back to not being able to login.. but this time I don't even get to see that bluetooth is ok.. the screen goes blank before that14:51
rezbdjmarsden: sir my bluetooth problem is solved :)14:59
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nyuszika7hDragonEyes :O21:10
kosaidpohello guys21:12
kosaidpoi have windows and lubuntu and i wana delete windows how to do that ?21:12
bioterrorwith gparted for example21:12
nyuszika7hkosaidpo: you can just format Windows partition with gparted or something.21:12
bioterrorI would use live media for adding the windows space for lubuntu21:13
nyuszika7hAlthough it's a good idea to remove it from your boot loader (GRUB, LILO, Syslinux etc.), too.21:13
kosaidpoguys and it ll boot with no problem ?? even i have the bootin things in window21:13
kosaidpoor shud i modify the fstab file ?21:13
nyuszika7hyes, it will work if you use Linux's bootloader.21:13
nyuszika7hProbably21:13
bioterrorwhat else he would use?21:13
kosaidpohow  ?21:13
bioterroras windows has chainloader21:14
bioterrorand it comes after grub21:14
kosaidpobioterror: well what i have to do is jst format the windows partition ?? thats all ??21:15
bioterrorwhy you want to format it?21:15
bioterroryou can just remove it and add that space to your / or /home, or how ever you've partitioned your lubuntu21:16
kosaidpobioterror: okies and i wont have prboel when ireboot ?21:17
kosaidpoproblems*21:17
bioterrorprobably not ;)21:17
bioterrorUUID <321:18
bioterrorbut good night21:18

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