[00:00] <urlin2u> emorris, cool the XP and being on the development channel just checking. :D
[00:00] <emorris> urlin2u, yeah, sorry :-p
[00:46] <pr0xy> power/settings menu button randomly disappears from menu bar in 11.10
[00:49] <Troy> i tried upgrading the ubuntu alhpa version got tons of errors and now when i do update and all that its like its not updating to the new beta ebcause i got none of the new unity / gnome 3 and i still get constant popping up errors in gnome classic so im not sure whats going on
[00:50] <urlin2u> Troy, gnome 3 has to b installed I believe you using 32 or 64 bit?
[00:50] <urlin2u> be
[00:51] <Troy> 64bit
[00:52] <Troy> im just so confused lol
[00:52] <Troy> i basically broke my ubuntu because it doesnt work properly and tons of errors
[00:54] <urlin2u> Troy, the beta turned on the app I forget the name that has 32 bit capability in a 64 bit, that can be turned on, but to get help you need to be very detailed in errors, and pastebin them, or just install the daily beta.
[00:54] <Troy> instal daily beta how does one do that?
[00:55] <urlin2u> troy should you really be messing with a development?  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[00:55] <urlin2u> just asking
[00:56] <Troy> no not really
[00:56] <Troy> lol i was foolish to upgrade to alpha
[00:56] <Troy> in the first place
[00:57] <urlin2u> Troy, it happens I'm an experienced user and have it installed, but would not even post any problems when I can reinstall or load a clone that was running.
[00:58] <Troy> hehe
[00:59] <urlin2u> Troy, thats just the way roll others go a different route.
[00:59] <urlin2u> I
[00:59] <Troy> yea im thinking of just waiting to full release of 11.10 or giving arch a go.. not really sure
[01:00] <urlin2u> Troy, arch is cool use the install wiki it is pretty easy.
[01:00] <Troy> yea hard to use the install wiki when its the only comp you got :S
[01:01] <Troy> or i would install over ssh
[01:01] <urlin2u> Troy, you can print it, without it you will probably have problems I know I would, even though I have used arch, hard to rember everything for me.
[01:01] <urlin2u> remember
[01:02] <urlin2u> Troy, is it the gnome 3 desktop you want?
[01:02] <Troy> yea
[01:02] <urlin2u> Troy, fedora has it stock in 15
[01:03] <urlin2u> not a bad OS
[01:03] <Troy> yea i dont really need it... im just saying i was curious as to why gnome 3 wasnt installed with the latest beta
[01:05] <Troy> you know hoestly im a prefered gnome2/xfce user.. just wanted to check out gnome 3
[01:06] <urlin2u> Troy, also good DE, not sure abount the dailies, I think gnome 3 is supposed to be in the final release though.
[01:08] <urlin2u> a live cd of fedora will get you gnome 3 or go here to see it in openSuselive cd. http://gnome3.org/tryit.html
[01:09] <urlin2u> worth trying out as a live I think to see if it is what you might like at least it was for me.
[01:09] <syn-ack> Good evening, people. I just did a fresh install of 11.10 and for some reason my Atheros wifi card won't come up. At first I had a "Device Not Managed" notifer so I went into the network manager conf file and changed "Managed=false" to true, restarted nm and now it's saying that the device is not ready. is there a known issue out there regarding this that I've not been able to find?
[01:11] <syn-ack> rfkill isn't showing the device blocked, and I'm able to manipulate it with iwconfig.
[01:12] <syn-ack> The kernel module is loaded and assigned (obviously, otherwise the other methods wouldn't work)
[01:52] <lucious> is gnome-screensaver capturing for you guys?
[02:19] <sianhulo> people, after i installed gnome shell, i haven't been able to use unity 3d
[02:21] <sianhulo> i shall give a log, but need to know what's the name of unity 2d, because if i execute unity --replace, i wont be able to give you the log if i dont change to unity 2d again
[02:44] <Iowaman> Hello
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[02:55] <Atharva> hi..Which will be the default ubuntu enviornments in further releases ?
[02:56] <Logan_> Atharva: Unity.
[03:10] <bjsnider> what an odd question
[03:11] <bjsnider> there's a lot of written info about that on the web and has been for quite a while
[03:13] <urlin2u> bjsnider, help I've fallen and I can't browse the web. :D
[03:13] <bjsnider> i guess
[05:15] <bullgard4> Installing the DEB program package »keychain«, why does the Synaptic dialog window "Changes Applied" say: "(keychain is being set up.) You have to configure "localpurge with the command 'dpkg-reconfigure localepurge' to make /usr/sbin/localpurge actually to function. Nothing to be done, exiting..."?
[05:46] <vega-> has there really not been updates for oneiric in the last couple of days or so.. ? or is it just my mirror?
[05:50] <micahg> vega-: might be your mirror, but we're in beta 2 freeze
[06:14] <vega-> quite annoying to work with oneiric when there's a popup every few minutes "sorry the program <insert-all-kinds-of-programs-here> closed unexpectedly"
[06:15] <tjoy> sounds awful
[06:17] <vega-> just worried about what the quality will be at final release..
[06:17] <tjoy> probably pretty bad
[06:17] <tjoy> although
[06:17] <tjoy> it's still a month or so out
[06:17] <tjoy> and you haven't ruled out a hardware issue
[06:18] <vega-> based on past experiences yes.. i've started using every release since alpha-1 or alpha-2 and things have never been this bad
[06:18] <vega-> let's hope it gets better pretty quickly...
[06:19] <vega-> i think the hardware is ok.. and hey, looking at this list seems i'm not alone: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/
[06:19] <tjoy> oh yeah
[06:19] <tjoy> when i tried booting to desktop i got a crash right away too
[06:20] <tjoy> good thing my use-case is headless
[06:21] <urlin2u> never seen a bad release, been using ubuntu since dapper
[06:24] <adam_> I have a dwa-130 dlink adapter which worked with ubuntu 11.04 using ndiskgtk windows wireless drivers. Just updated to ubuntu 11.10 does not seem to work. maybe gnome 3 compatibility issues? any help?
[06:24] <urlin2u> adam_, you need to reload drivers on a upgrade
[06:24] <adam_> how do I do that?
[06:24] <urlin2u> adam_, like you did originally I suppose.
[06:25] <adam_> urlin2u, I used ndiswrapper to get it working and now that is not working
[06:27] <urlin2u> adam_, this is not something I have ever had to do this wiki may help though. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[06:27] <adam_> Thanks. I have it installed already I just think that it might not be fully compatible with gnome 3
[06:28] <adam_> Also I am willing to buy a new wifi card for my computer. I want a usb wifi card. Are there any that are specifically plug and play for ubuntu?
[06:30] <syn-ack> You know how many times in the past I've heard "The Quality Has Never Been This Bad In The Past"? by the time it goes final, it'
[06:30] <syn-ack> ll work out fine
[06:31] <syn-ack> I hear it with *every* release. Seriously.
[06:31] <urlin2u> adam_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
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[07:37] <diverse_izzue> Morning! When updating apt package indexes i get an error message about a bad signature since this morning. Everyone else? Solution?
[07:38] <jpds> diverse_izzue: Being worked on.
[07:43] <diverse_izzue> jpds, great. bug no?
[07:44] <Airon90> Hi you all, I updated yesterday my pc and now it seems that Lightdm is broken because when it loads, a black screen appears and loading led regularly blinks. Did someone encounter the same problem?
[07:52] <jpds> diverse_izzue: Should be now all fixed.
[08:01] <bullgard4> On my Oneiric omputer there are running two sshd processes. Is this normal?
[08:03] <jpds> bullgard4: Two /usr/sbin/sshd processes ?
[08:03] <jpds> It seems to spawn a child SSH process for every loging.
[08:08] <bullgard4> jpds: No. i.) /usr/sbin/sshd -D;  ii.) sshd: <username>@pts/5.
[08:08] <Airon90> Hi you all, I updated yesterday my pc and now it seems that Lightdm is broken because when it loads, a black screen appears and loading led regularly blinks. Did someone encounter the same problem?
[08:08] <jpds> bullgard4: What I said after that, it's spawns a separate user session for the login.
[08:08] <bullgard4> jpds: What do you mean by "it"?
[08:08] <jpds> sshd.
[08:09] <bullgard4> jpds: Is this new in Oneiric? I do not have this behaviour in Ubuntu 10.04.3.
[08:10] <tjoy> :ugh:
[08:10] <tjoy> 'booting system without full network configuration...'
[08:10] <tjoy> thanks, ubuntu, you only wasted 2 minutes of my life waiting for stupid dhcp
[08:11] <jpds> bullgard4: Nope, I have it on an 10.04 system.
[08:11] <tjoy> bullgard4: i've noticed that on about every system i've ever used
[08:13] <bullgard4> jpds: (I am rather new to ssh.) So it must be a matter of my ssh configuration. What could I have configured wrongly in my Ubuntu 10.04.3? So far I have not noticed any malfunction.
[08:14] <jpds> bullgard4: Do you have UsePrivilegeSeparation set to yes in sshd_config ?
[08:24] <bullgard4> jpds: UsePrivilegeSeparation is set to "yes" in both Ubuntu computers.
[08:39] <carli2> hi
[08:39] <carli2> skype does not work under oneiric because of some missing ia32 libs
[08:45] <vibhav> is it true ubuntu+1 has no synaptic?
[08:49] <carli2> vibhav: it is true unless you type "sudo apt-get install synaptic"
[08:49] <vibhav> thanks carli2
[08:50] <mvo> or install it via software-center
[09:08] <jerknextdoor> i updated some stuff and now i can't get the network applet to work or connect to any networks.
[09:15] <psypher246> hi all, sorry i am trying to log a bug but I can't remember the name of the feature that i wantot log the bug with
[09:16] <psypher246> when i press super - e and the desktop zooms out to all desktops, what is that called again?
[09:17] <psypher246> ah expo mode
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[09:44] <wrtp> has anyone else experienced problems with missing files in oneiric apt-get installs?
[09:51] <geser> missing files?
[10:07] <wrtp> geser: yes. at least two (non-core) packages have been missing some files when i did apt-get on them. both install fine under natty.
[10:08] <wrtp> (and i think they're pulling from the same repository for both natty and oneiric)
[10:09] <wrtp> one (mainly written in python) was missing a load of __init__.py files
[10:09] <wrtp> the other was missing some executables
[10:09] <wrtp> it's quite possible that it's a problem created by the package maintainer, but i thought i'd ask
[10:14] <geser> might be perhaps due to some changes to the python packaging helpers between natty and oneiric
[10:16] <vega-> libreoffice updates being kept back for others too? last 3-4 days or so..
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[10:30] <wrtp> geser: it's entirely possible.
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[12:28] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:11] <bronko> hi
[13:11] <bronko> is there a way to change the default application behavior in oneiric?
[13:14] <carli2> bronko: which application behaviour?
[13:42] <nmvictor> I loaded ubuntu 11.10 daily builds on a USB drive for installation, after selecting "Try Ubuntu" option, the screen goes deem and the fn keys do not work to adjust the brightness, all i see is a very faint installation window and i cant even make for the buttons. I am using Acer Aspire 5734z with Intel graphics card.
[13:47] <nmvictor> zykotick9: MonkeyDust: though i am experiencing the same problem with 11.04, my current installation. I managed to fix the problem with kamal Mostafa's kernel, see bug 568611 , It is claimed the the bug is fixed upstream in Oneric,
[13:48] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 568611 in linux (Ubuntu) "Screen brightness control fails on Dell Studio 1558" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/568611
[13:48] <nmvictor> I loaded ubuntu 11.10 daily builds on a USB drive for installation, after selecting "Try Ubuntu" option, the screen goes deem and the fn keys do not work to adjust the brightness, all i see is a very faint installation window and i cant even make for the buttons. I am using Acer Aspire 5734z with Intel graphics card.
[13:49] <nmvictor> Anyone help me please
[14:08] <nmvictor> So  many people, and no one to help o even  try. Why dont you all go sleep.
[14:09] <Stanley00> ah, so you are using 11.10?
[14:10] <BluesKaj> nmvictor, make sure your laptop is using the DC converter , looks like your graphics mode is on powwer save of some sort
[14:11] <BluesKaj> nmvictor, plug it in in other words ...your battery is probly low
[14:13] <nmvictor> BluesKaj: Its plugged
[14:14] <nmvictor> BluesKaj: Its always plugged, the fn keys do not work. see bug 568611, ist more or less the same problems
[14:14] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 568611 in linux (Ubuntu) "Screen brightness control fails on Dell Studio 1558" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/568611
[14:14] <BluesKaj> you're asking for advice in #ubuntu. maybe you should just stay there
[14:14] <BluesKaj> nmvictor, ^
[14:15] <nmvictor> BluesKaj: ok
[14:15] <nmvictor> am here, I had a guy, macer1 helping me last night over their, so I was trying to trace him
[14:16] <BluesKaj> nmvictor, what OS are you on?
[14:16] <nmvictor> Ubuntu 11.04,
[14:16] <nmvictor> Natty Narwhal
[14:22] <nmvictor> are we still on?
[14:23] <nmvictor> BluesKaj:
[14:23] <nmvictor> BluesKaj: ^
[14:23] <BluesKaj> nmvictor, 11.04 support is in #ubuntu
[14:23] <BluesKaj> this for 11.10 support
[14:25] <nmvictor> BluesKaj: I am using 11.04 to chat about my problem which is trying to install  11.10, so they suggested here. So actually the problem  is with the 11.10  version, I am trying a USB install and the screen goes deem. Am I still lost/
[14:26] <BluesKaj> deem =dim ?
[14:26] <nmvictor> BluesKaj: whatever/
[14:27] <BluesKaj> whatever for sure
[14:28] <nmvictor> ok, please just help me. I am trying to install Ubuntu 11.10 and i experienced the problem above. Thats all, forgive my english.
[14:29] <famine> im running fglrx....is there a way to uninstall it and use the open source radeon drivers? (if i uninstall fglrx I get libgl errors whenever I try to open something that uses 3d)
[14:30] <Lynoure> nmvictor: does the same happen with other install methods? If so, at what point of install?
[14:31]  * BluesKaj breathes a sigh of relief
[14:33] <nmvictor> Yea, even with CD install. Its happens right after I select "Try Ubuntu" option, The screen dims to almost 0, viewing the screen from an angle reveals the installation window, but a very faint one. I try adjusting with the fn keys but they are not working.
[14:34] <Lynoure> nmvictor: then sounds like a bug you might want to report, and include the info on the make and model of your computer
[15:17] <Krawnsbie> Best usb wifi adapter for 11.10?
[15:21] <Lynoure> Krawnsbie: the cheap ones that say "Linux" on the packaging :)
[15:22] <Krawnsbie> hahaha I will look into that. With buying online it is all much more unreliable. I might make the hike to go to the nearsest computer store
[15:22] <Krawnsbie> Thanks Lynoure
[15:22] <Lynoure> Krawnsbie: they are very very different ones and I bet no one has done comprehensive comparisons, so go for a vendor that actually believes themselves too that it works for Linux (seen many in the shops here)
[15:23] <Krawnsbie> cool cool I live in the mountains in a college town so computer stores are scarce :(
[15:42] <fossala> How is unity working with the 3d nouveau drivers?
[15:55] <madurax86> i get random hangs on oneric
[15:56] <madurax86> dont get anything in logs(kern.log and syslog) what can i do?
[15:57] <madurax86> as far as i can remember I used 2.6.38.8(natty) without any problem for a long time then even natty hanged after new 2.6.38.10 came
[15:58] <madurax86> i have 2.6.38.8 installed but it reports a plymouth crash any workaround?
[15:58] <drussell> madurax86: do you know what graphics chipset your machine has? Intel/AMD/nvidia?
[15:58] <drussell> (AMD==ATI)
[15:58] <madurax86> drussell: i have optimus from nvidia
[15:59] <madurax86> intel/nvidia
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[16:00] <drussell> madurax86: are you using the nvidia binary drivers or the opensource ones?>
[16:00] <madurax86> drussell: not using it at all i've turned it off and using intel
[16:01] <drussell> madurax86: and it's a hard crash, you can't ssh into the machine from another box?
[16:02] <madurax86> drussell: hard one doesnt respond to alt+b+sysrq
[16:03] <madurax86> if im playing a song or somthing it goes on a loop
[16:03] <drussell> madurax86: have you tried following the points here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash
[16:04] <madurax86> drussell: nope, i;ll try
[16:05] <drussell> madurax86: good luck!
[16:05] <madurax86> drussell: from what i see this is a kernel crash
[16:06] <madurax86> drussell: will those alt+sysrq+l and alt+sysrq+t work at all? b didnt
[16:07] <drussell> madurax86: possibly, the other thing is don't rule out some other problem, as it suggests, run a full memory check also
[16:08] <madurax86> drussell: yes i already had a cpu manufacture fault on this! thanks for your help
[16:08] <drussell> madurax86: yvw
[16:09] <dud> how to use gnome-shell?
[16:13] <madurax86> dud: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell, then select from login
[16:22] <dud> how to select gnome-shell from unity w/o login?
[16:26] <dud> like a login setup?
[16:31] <dud> how to kill unity to get back into the login screen because the buttons disappeared
[16:32] <dud> ctrl-alt backspace doesnt work
[16:33] <bullgard4> [GNOME 3] The cursor has taken the form of a Traffic sign "NO ENTRY". I can move it but clicking has no effect. What process do I have to kill so that clicking on a window button will again have some effect?
[16:34] <AndChat|> Why use ubuntu when debian actually works? Why
[16:35] <bullgard4> AndChat|: Don't troll.
[16:35] <AndChat|> Just asking?
[16:35] <AndChat|> Real answers please?
[16:36] <AndChat|> Mcop
[16:38] <AndChat|> Anyone can answer?
[16:39] <AndChat|> Just curious
[16:39] <AndChat|> Guess not lol
[16:39] <AndChat|> Take care friends :)
[16:40] <drussell> what a delightful chap
[16:48] <bjsnider> he doesn't have to use anything. as if he's being coerced into using ubuntu
[17:03] <dud> amen
[17:03] <dud> i need some happy little trees
[17:03] <dud> why my window looks like windows 3.1 on gnome shell=
[17:20] <falstaff> hello, when i do a apt-get upgrade the command says he has to hold back some libreoffice packakges, is this normal?
[17:22] <patdk-wk> sure, that is what dist-upgrade is for
[17:22] <patdk-wk> they are held back, cause they require new things to be installed
[17:22] <bjsnider> falstaff, that may mean packages have to be removed to make the upgrade happen
[17:22] <patdk-wk> or removed :)
[17:23] <patdk-wk> something besides an update
[17:23] <falstaff> dist-upgrade tells me the same...
[17:23] <patdk-wk> have something installed it doesn't like maybe
[17:24] <falstaff> When I try to use aptitude, it wants to remove 125 packages...!
[17:26] <bjsnider> pastebin the whole aptitude output
[17:27] <jbicha> falstaff: I'd just wait a few hours to see if it clears up
[17:29] <bullgard4> falstaff: I support jbicha's advice.
[17:29] <falstaff> http://paste.ubuntu.com/693909/
[17:30] <falstaff> bullgard4, jbicha, well, I already had several times the problem that aptitude wants to remove a lot of packages..
[17:31] <bullgard4> falstaff: You have been told what the reasons might be. --  If you want a more exact answer, do what <bjsnider> asked you to do.
[17:32] <falstaff> bjsnider, bullgard4, yep, pastebin is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/693909/
[17:47] <falstaff> hmm, it looks like my mirror of choice has some problems... There is a newer package of libreoffice-common available on the ubuntu servers
[17:48] <jakemp> X asploded =/
[17:52] <bjsnider> falstaff, this problem is because libreoffice-common has not been updated on your mirror to the newest version, it will be cleared up in awhile
[17:52] <bjsnider> or you can switch to main
[18:00] <synackfin> can I upgrade from oneiric nightly build to oneiric-stable once it's released?
[18:01] <charlie-tca> yes
[18:02] <charlie-tca> actually, you simply maintain the updates, and you have the same system as 11.10 when it releases
[18:02] <Pici> !final
[18:02] <ubottu> If you install a development version of Ubuntu Oneiric and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 11.10 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal.
[18:02] <synackfin> ah, cool
[18:08] <edgy> Hi, I downloaded oneiric kubuntu and trying to install. It didn't ask me to partition the disk or choose free space but it just goes forever, I rebooted and there is nothing!
[18:45] <gnomefreak> 3 questions  1. do the fglrx drivers work? 2. how the hell do you access screensaver settings? 3. How do i get the applications icon back in the launcher?
[18:46] <Ian_Corne> 1. not to my knowledge 2. not to my knowledge (except different timings, but not "never" 3. apt-get install gnome-icons or something
[18:47] <bjsnider> 1. no, 2. i'd like to know myself, 3. what launcher?
[18:47] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: the one in unity
[18:47] <bjsnider> oh, unity
[18:47] <gnomefreak> yep
[18:47] <gnomefreak> shit if they dont work its a good thing i havent rebooted
[18:47] <bjsnider> i'm an evil devotee of gnome-shell myself
[18:48] <bjsnider> well, they work in the sense that they make a picture
[18:48] <IAmNotThatGuy> lol nice answers Ian_Corne and bjsnider
[18:51] <bjsnider> gnomefreak, i think you can safely reboot, but don't expect high performance
[18:51] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: i just disabled them im going to try and reboot now.
[18:52] <Ian_Corne> gnomefreak: $ sudo apt-get install gnome-icon-theme-full
[18:53] <ironhalik> hello
[18:53] <ironhalik> quick question
[18:53] <ironhalik> will my laptop melt od explode if I try to upgrade 11.04 to 11.10? :>
[18:54] <bjsnider> i think that's highly unlikely
[18:54] <ruffleS> hi. has anyone had any luck making a liveUSB out of oneiric's .iso file (x86) ?
[18:54] <ironhalik> ok, so it prolly wont melt or explode - but will it boot? :P
[18:55] <bjsnider> it will probably boot
[18:55] <ironhalik> ruffleS: yeah, it worked for me
[18:55] <ruffleS> ironhalik: how did you do it?
[18:55] <ant30> have any body got problems with aptitude search status results ?
[18:56] <ironhalik> dont remember, with iniversal usb installer on windows IIRC
[18:56] <ant30> I get "p" on installed packages, and if I try to install it with aptitude/apt-get its told me already installed
[18:56] <ruffleS> universal usb installer? ok i will give it a try when i get home. thanks
[18:57] <ironhalik> ruffleS: I did it the same as with 11.04, used the newer syslinux (ubuntu 11.04 in the menu) and it worked
[18:58] <ruffleS> ironhalik: i've been trying to make an oneiric liveUSB for almost 3 months now and i can't get it to boot
[18:59] <ruffleS> i'm using unetbootin but i also used ubuntu's own liveusb creator from a virtualbox setup
[18:59] <ironhalik> it may be an individual case
[19:00] <ironhalik> I usually use universal usb installer, or the built in ubuntus one
[19:00] <ironhalik> if it would not work, I prolly would try manual syslinux 4+ and dd tool
[19:02] <ironhalik> ok guys, wish me luck, I punched the upgrade button in update-manager -d
[19:03] <gnomefreak> d to work
[19:03] <gnomefreak> damn
[19:03] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: how do i get the default ati drivers to work?
[19:04] <mvo> ironhalik: there is a issue that cups may hang during the upgrade, sudo stop cups will fix it if its hanging
[19:04] <gnomefreak> fglrx disabled and policy shows they are gone. im in update-alternatives and i not getting a choice
[19:04] <mvo> ironhalik: or wait a day or so until the fix hits the archive
[19:04] <bjsnider> gnomefreak, you mean xf86-video-ati, the open source driver?
[19:04] <ironhalik> mvo: thanks, ill keep that in mind
[19:05] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: if that is the default ones yes
[19:05]  * gnomefreak not sure if default is xserver-xorg-ati
[19:05] <ironhalik> btw, anyone noticed a slowdown for unity on intel's IGPs?
[19:05] <bjsnider> if you removed fglrx, and deleted your xorg.conf file then it should be there after a reboot
[19:05] <ironhalik> on 11.10?
[19:05] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: thanks
[19:06] <FernandoMiguel> hi
[19:06] <bjsnider> the glx alternatives are returned to mesa after removing fglrx and the xorg.conf file forces the kernel to load whatever driver is listed there
[19:07] <Ian_Corne> bjsnider: not if you remove with apt
[19:07] <Ian_Corne> only with jockey
[19:07] <Ian_Corne> there's glx libs missing
[19:07] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: where did xorg.conf move to :( its not in /etc/X11
[19:07] <bjsnider> then it doesn't exist
[19:08] <gnomefreak> any idea on what could have replaced it :(
[19:09] <bjsnider> nothing replaces it
[19:09] <bjsnider> either it exists or the kernel makes the default choice
[19:12] <gnomefreak> well than im screwed badly i have no working graphics. i can loginto unity 2d but it doesnt have anything in it just my background
[19:12] <gnomefreak> i tried installing *-ati and *-radeon
[19:17] <gnomefreak> what if i reinstalled them and removed them with apt this time?
[19:18] <bjsnider> you installled them and rebooted?
[19:19] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: installed them with jockey. did not reboot. removed them with jockey than rebooted
[19:19] <bjsnider> if you don't reboot then you haven't actually conducted a test
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[19:21] <bjsnider> gnomefreak, do me a favour and ping me again. i'm testing notifications
[19:25] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: ok
[19:26] <bjsnider> gnomefreak, try it again in 5 seconds please
[19:26] <gnomefreak> bjsnider: ok?
[20:31] <piero> Hi! After I type my password in lightdm the screen blinks and ask me for the password again, and again.. It's different when I type the wrong password, when its doesn't blink and show: invalid password. Where can I begin to solve this problem?
[20:32] <Ian_Corne> try loading another session
[20:32] <Ian_Corne> like unity 2d
[20:32] <Ian_Corne> or gnome-shell
[20:32] <piero> I did, it falls in the same problem
[20:32] <piero> nothing changes
[20:32] <Ian_Corne> hmm, login from tty and check .xsession errors
[20:33] <Ian_Corne> and lightdm logs
[20:34] <piero> fglrx driver doesn't find my card. How can I force VESA?
[20:34] <bullgard4> When plugging in a USB hard drive, Nautilus recognizes the label of a partition. When clicking on this label, Nautilus opens a message window: "Unable to mount <partion_label>. Not Authorized. OK". About 20 days ago I could mount this partition without any problems. How to fix this problem?
[20:37] <piero> but how can the display manager start correctly if X crashes when starting my device driver??
[20:38]  * Ian_Corne doesn't know 
[20:38] <Ian_Corne> :p
[20:44] <piero> how can I manually start unity after a xinit ?
[20:44] <piero> Ian_Corne, the system are going to kill me: if I select guest session, it starts perfectly!
[20:45] <Ian_Corne> :D
[20:45] <piero> so it's not a video problem, right?
[20:45] <Ian_Corne> unity --reset
[20:45] <Ian_Corne> might help
[20:45] <Ian_Corne> probably not then, no
[20:45] <ironhalik> hmm, cool - 11.10 upgrade failed before it started, at least I can boot back to OS :>
[20:46] <Ian_Corne> :D
[20:46] <piero> something is wrong.. when I login my home directory isn't there.. the encrypted data was not recovered.. these "Access-your-private-data.desktop" files are in the place
[20:46] <Ian_Corne> oho
[20:47] <piero> so if I try ecryptfs-mount-private it crashes: error while loading shared livraries: libnss3.so
[20:47] <Ian_Corne> aha
[20:47] <Ian_Corne> try to reinstall that
[20:48] <piero> already tried.. not works
[20:49] <Ian_Corne> check bug reports
[20:49] <Ian_Corne> on ecruptfs thingy
[20:49] <Ian_Corne> i have no experience yet
[20:50] <piero> ok
[21:01] <bau_> hi all, is there a program to burn files via shell?
[21:01] <rww> bau_: to CD, you mean?
[21:02] <bau_> rww, yes
[21:02] <rww> !info wodim | bau_
[21:02] <ubottu> bau_: wodim (source: cdrkit): command line CD/DVD writing tool. In component main, is optional. Version 9:1.1.11-1ubuntu2 (oneiric), package size 337 kB, installed size 852 kB
[21:02] <rww> (you may already have it installed, in fact)
[21:02] <bau_> rww, thank you very much
[22:36] <piero> Hi! I can't mount my private directory due to an error in ecryptfs-mount-private: ecryptfs-insert-wrapped-passphrase-into-keyring: error while loading shared libraries: libnss3.so: cannot open shared object file: No suck file or directory
[22:37] <piero> this problem started after a dist-upgraded my beta1 (installed beta1 and upgraded)
[22:44] <BluesKaj> looks like i'm going to settle for an M-Audio Audiophile 192 sound card . an upgrade to the 2496 and it's on for the right price in several locations  linux support looks good with the Mudita24 Alsa GUI tool and the madfuload firmware loader..going to check this out further before I drop this kind of coin on a soundcard
[22:52] <piero> how can I tell apt to reinstall all the packets I have already installed? re-downloading from the repositories?
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[23:57] <adam_> Hi I Have my os on 31 gigs and a 250 gig partition free. How can I extend that without booting from cd?
[23:59] <billybigrigger> not possible