[00:49] <akgraner> Great Editions ya'll!
[00:49] <akgraner> :-)
[01:05] <akgraner> Here's the doodle poll link - I think I verified the times listed on those days don
[01:05] <akgraner> don't overlap with the other meetings in -meeting
[01:05] <akgraner> http://www.doodle.com/f955yyub63n24nha
[01:05] <akgraner> I'll keep it open it Friday so please  vote on the time you can attended by Friday please
[01:17] <akgraner> Just sent an email to the 27 people listed on the LP Team
[01:17] <akgraner> please let me know if you didn't get the email
[01:17] <akgraner> Thanks - y'all
[01:17] <akgraner> DarkwingDuck, who has admin to add threads to our forums sub-group?
[01:18] <akgraner> Can you or whomever snag the email and stick that thread there so people who follow this group through the forums can also vote
[11:34] <akgraner> Thanks everyone who has voted so far!
[11:34] <akgraner> I sent an invite to the loco contacts team - please encourage your loco leaders to join as well
[11:35] <akgraner> I'll see if some one the other development teams would like to join as well.  Some of the managers I know have gad over 10 + years of leadership training it would be nice to just get their feedback
[11:37] <akgraner> DarkwingDuck, I'm going to add to the wiki page today and create a TOC and some place holder pagers
[11:37] <akgraner> pages even
[11:40] <akgraner> DarkwingDuck, can you add the doodle poll link to the topic please....my kids are late for school so someone has to take them.  I'll  bbiab...:-)
[13:15] <akgraner> Thanks everyone who has voted so far
[13:36] <akgraner> I'm adding comments to a few of the documents...just want to make sure we keep all the references straight and the tools easy :-)
[13:37] <akgraner> I am loving the suggestions and lists - you all are AWESOME!
[13:39] <akgraner> I'll also be putting the handbook in an actual book format  - (Same format we use for the official ubuntu book) then I'll send it to team members to edit with explanation on how to do so...:-)  (This way you all learn how to edit should you be asked to help with projects like that :-) as we are always looking for new tech reviewers and stuff)
[13:39] <akgraner> so if you already know what we use and how to add edits then it's a win all the way around
[14:09] <akgraner> YoBoY, hey!
[14:09] <YoBoY> hey akgraner :)
[14:09] <akgraner> will you be at UDS?
[14:09] <akgraner> You have the coolest suggestions for things
[14:09] <YoBoY> I haven't applied :] and I'm not yet decided ¬_¬ (too much work)
[14:10] <akgraner> I really like getting your feedback
[14:10] <YoBoY> :)
[14:10] <akgraner> ahh ok
[14:10] <akgraner> well please as all this starts shaping up please give feedback especially if I use to much American phrasing and stuff....
[14:11] <YoBoY> you can always have my feedback :) if i don't go I'll try to participate on irc ;)
[14:11] <akgraner> I try to keep an inclusive international filter on things, but sometime the redneck in me just comes jumping out :-)
[14:13] <YoBoY> cool :) but so far you are doing great
[14:13] <akgraner> thank you  - just keep me on track :-)
[14:13] <YoBoY> I have to take time to read the leadership book ^^"
[14:14] <akgraner> remember it is just starting out so it isn't formated correctly and it's a very rough draft
[14:14] <akgraner> I'll work on format this week
[14:15] <YoBoY> ok :)
[14:24] <head_victim> akgraner: don't worry too much about localisms, we all do it. I have to keep toning down the ocker in me.
[14:24] <akgraner> head_victim, :-)  I just try to be aware of it
[14:30] <ashams> Hi ppl
[14:30] <ashams> I need your opinion
[14:31] <ashams> I know it's a weired idea
[14:31] <ashams> it is not related to leadership project
[14:32] <akgraner> ashams, what's up
[14:32] <ashams> akgraner: what if we make an appreciation day
[14:32] <ashams> it would be something like a feast
[14:32] <ashams> where everybody thank everybody
[14:33] <ashams> one day every year
[14:33] <ashams> I think this joyness can/will revive activity and will give ppl a reason to suffer all the year-long :)
[14:33] <akgraner> I like that - but what I'd like to do as well along those lines is revive "Hall of Fame)
[14:33] <YoBoY> like a free hug day ? ^^"
[14:33] <akgraner> and have one day a month where we blog about people all day etc
[14:33] <ashams> YoBoY: yeah, something like this
[14:33] <akgraner> kinda like we do for Ada Lovelace Day and others
[14:34] <ashams> akgraner: yeah
[14:34] <ashams> but it can be only once a year
[14:34] <ashams> so we keep it's joyness
[14:34] <ashams> and make ppl wait for it
[14:34] <ashams> maybe it will be a big magnet to this community
[14:35] <ashams> imagine all locos send a thanking msgs to other locos
[14:35] <ashams> and devs to triaggers
[14:35] <ashams> and vice versa
[14:35] <ashams> a day to put everybody in oe circle
[14:35] <ashams> one@
[14:36] <akgraner> ashams, I think it's great
[14:36] <ashams> akgraner: thanks
[14:36] <akgraner> how does this sound  - let me cross reference all the Ubuntu weeks and other tech appreciation days and see if we can find a unique day
[14:37] <akgraner> ashams, actually this fits in nicely with leadership
[14:37] <ashams> akgraner: gr8
[14:37] <ashams> you know the first day someone started to develop into ubuntu?
[14:37] <akgraner> leaders appreciate and thank those they lead- they find ways to motivate, recruit and retain members
[14:37] <akgraner> so this would fit nicely
[14:38] <ashams> yeah, it will benift in both ways
[14:38] <ashams> keeping current ppl alive
[14:38] <ashams> and invite more ppl
[14:39] <YoBoY> there is a website listing all these "appreciation day" but I can't find it again :]
[14:39] <ashams> YoBoY: GR8 :)
[14:39] <ashams> pl, you're nice :D
[14:40] <akgraner> YoBoY, yep I can't find it either - but we'll get it all together :-)
[14:42] <ashams> akgraner: YoBoY : what about 8 July 2005 ?
[14:42] <YoBoY> 2005 ?
[14:43] <ashams> YoBoY: oh sorry, meant every year :)
[14:43] <ashams> I just copied the date from wikipedia
[14:49] <ashams> Guys, take a look at this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2004-September/000000.html  Interesting :)
[14:51] <YoBoY> souvenirs... :)
[17:17] <Cheesehead> Added a section on burnout. Since I'm too lazy too burnout at anything, the anecdotes are based on people I have known.
[17:53] <pleia2> hehe
[20:27] <akgraner> Cheesehead, too funny - I think between jono and I we have a lot of information on burnout
[20:33] <Cheesehead> akgraner: Indeed, but nobody leapt up to grab that slice of the pizza. I've never burnt out. I've just kept others from burning out.
[20:33] <akgraner> :-)
[20:33] <YoBoY> (lucky one)
[20:40] <Cheesehead> Not lucky, *lazy*
[20:41] <Cheesehead> Can't get on the burnout cycle if 12 steps is just to much to bother...
[20:44] <head_victim> On the previous conversation about 6 hours ago, the hall of fame is good (needs some polish but still good) as I've used it to congratulate members in the loco who appear there. I try to make a bit of a fuss about them (tweet, email the list, tell them on IRC, etc) as it's one of the few ways we can give meaningful recognition for hard work.
[20:47] <YoBoY> we give goodies (tshirt, mug, stickers...) :)
[20:48] <head_victim> Ah, we're a small group with no funding :/
[20:48] <head_victim> I'm already trying to scrounge some prizes for an installation fest I'm thinking of
[20:50] <head_victim> It's a good measuring stick though. If you make that you've been doing some hard work in my experience.
[20:52] <YoBoY> money is always the problem on the begining
[20:54] <YoBoY> our loco started like yours, some of our first members paid for the first steps of the loco
[20:55] <Cheesehead> I tend to look at things the other way around: What would people enjoy and feel fulfilled by, and work the group mission into that.
[20:55] <Cheesehead> I used to do community TV, and we spend 50% of our taime making video, and 50% of our time on pizza-and-beer afterward
[20:56] <Cheesehead> Never a problem finding volunteers, if 50% of out time is already fun
[20:56] <YoBoY> (I love the pizza and beer part, always the best moments :D)
[20:57] <Cheesehead> Had a couple find each other and get married from it.
[20:58] <Cheesehead> "Hey, everybody. Lift a glass to Scott, who ran the sound board great tonight. It was a tricky one tonight, too."
[20:58] <Cheesehead> That's all the recognition we gave.
[20:59] <Cheesehead> Not saying it's appropriate for a LoCo, but perhaps an idea in there somewhere.
[20:59] <head_victim> Our loco is ancient but went into a bit of hibernation that I'm trying to help wake it from.
[21:00] <head_victim> I always try to link social with work as well, for the install fest there will be an adjournment to a pub.
[21:01] <Cheesehead> Install-based pub games? Fastest install gets a bonus at darts?
[21:01] <head_victim> Haha
[21:02] <Cheesehead> Back in video, we did great with families. Kids had pizza-and-soda, but 12-and-up still ran cameras and even directed a few times.
[21:03] <head_victim> Do you have any links to a list of what your team created?
[21:03] <head_victim> My team wanted streaming and video so we've opened a youtube and ustream account, they might provide some inspiration
[21:05] <Cheesehead> No, I left video (changed cities) before the web and links even existed. Just some old VHS tapes in a box somewhere.
[21:06] <head_victim> Ahh fair enough, just checking
[21:06] <head_victim> Anyway, I should head to work. Cheerio, thanks for the thoughs
[21:06] <head_victim> thoughts*
[21:06] <Cheesehead> Take care
[23:19] <ashams> Hi again
[23:19] <ashams> Hey, about the so-called "Ubuntu Community Appreciation Day", If you have ideas, there's page for it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UCADay please modify it like you want. thanks :)