[00:09] smb: re vsftpd vs. lxc earlier, it looks like Debian "fixed" it by updating the version of vsftpd in stable to 2.3.4 -- bleh [00:21] lynxman, if its not in the packages now it will be thursday [00:22] it will be thursday [00:24] seeing twb` online makes me sad. It's a reminder that he has gone home, had an evening, slept, had breakfast, and gone back to the office - with me barely leaving the computer. [00:28] heh [00:46] What is "breakfast"? [00:46] It's only 11AM, I have yet to break fast [01:16] New bug: #854343 in rabbitmq-server (main) "erlexec crashed with SIGSEGV in free()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/854343 [01:55] smoser: rocking! [01:56] lynxman, it looks like that should have it [01:56] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova reports we're currently at revno 1173. that commit went in at 1171 [01:56] so, fingers crossed, canonistack will have it soon. [01:58] smoser: While it's in the repo this week I'm happy [01:58] we're hoping / expecting to grab another snapshot tomorrow morning [01:59] https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/2011.3 [01:59] i'm the only one on that list. [01:59] weee! [02:00] smoser: You have too much fun [02:10] hey guys, what would you suggest to use as an email server? [02:14] CluelessPerson, postfix is the recommended option, this is covered in some detail in the ubuntu server guide === jjohansen is now known as jj-afk [02:18] qman__, Cool, thanks [03:09] Can someone confirm the current kernel version in 11.04 server please? I have 2.6.28-11-server [03:15] Tohuw: rmadison -s natty-updates linux-server says: linux-image-server | 2.6.38.11.26 | natty-updates | amd64, i386 [03:22] hmmm. thanks, jmarsden. So, I have 11.04, 2.6.28-11-server, and am facing this problem:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/852972 . Does anyone have any insights as to how I can get to a bootable system? [03:22] Launchpad bug 852972 in linux "Kernel 2.6.28 Returns NAK bailout from sendbytes on startup" [Undecided,Won't fix] [03:24] For some reason, Brad Figg decided my bug was against Jaunty, but it really isn't. The install started life as an 11.04 [03:26] Tohuw: Ask about that in #ubuntu-bugs, and hopefully get that bug back to New or whatever status it should be in. [03:26] Thank you [03:26] Tohuw: You're welcome. [03:33] Is there a way to configure post fix to not need users to be on the system? [03:33] So that you can just have as many users as you want, but don't need that many user accounts? [03:33] Tohuw: Hmmm, the natty base kernel is 2.6.38, not 2.6.28. That might explain why people think you are running Jaunty :) [03:34] Haha yes I just realized that [03:34] I could have sworn it said a 2 there... [03:34] :( [03:34] CluelessPerson: Yes, it is called virtual mailboxes. [03:34] I suppose I'll just refile the bug... getting no feedback out of #ubuntu-bugs [03:35] jmarsden: why can't I pick a specific kernel to file the bug against, only the "linux" package? [03:35] jmarsden, Thanks. I just wouldn't know what to search for in google to find those answers. [03:35] After all, my bug is really 2.6.38-11-server specific, I believe [03:35] CluelessPerson, there's a few different ways to set them up, too, so make sure you stick with one guide [03:37] qman__, got it. :D [03:38] CluelessPerson: For an example direct from the postfix documentation, read http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html#virtual_mailbox [05:47] Hi [05:48] my pastebin is here http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/693541/ [05:48] I have 2 physical CPU and 4 physical CPU [05:50] let me pastebin it again [05:50] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/693544/ [05:50] core is seen as 16 in 4 physical CPU and not as 32 [05:51] help me understand [05:52] one has hyperthreading & the other doesn't? [05:52] which one has HT ? [05:52] 2 physical CPU or 4 physical CPU ? [05:52] probably the first, if it's 2 CPUs of 4 cores each [05:53] oh ok [05:53] is there a way to see HT is enabled ? [05:55] ht in the flags line should show if it's capable of it, not sure if it's enabled [05:55] * ajmitch may be wrong there [05:59] is there a way to see HT is enabled ? [06:02] afaik, just from looking at the numbers that you saw in /proc/cpuinfo - number of physical CPUs & number of cores [06:02] kaushal: you can often toggle it in the BIOS [06:05] twb`: ol [06:05] ok* [06:41] New bug: #854457 in samba (main) "Panic or segfault in Samba every 30 mins" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/854457 [06:56] Morning rat fans! === smb` is now known as smb [07:09] hello [07:09] is it possible to backup file with tar ? [07:10] iuytfr: yes. [07:11] how ? [07:12] iuytfr: The question is far too opened ended. [07:13] New bug: #706354 in ntp "dpkg-maintscript-helper: warning: environment variable DPKG_MAINTSCRIPT_PACKAGE missing" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/706354 === jj-afk is now known as jjohansen [07:16] just give me some clues to begin [07:41] wtb double check on amazon web services network load === sanderj is now known as Sander^work [08:31] New bug: #854518 in samba (main) "package libsmbclient 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile returned error exit status 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/854518 === himcesjf1 is now known as himcesjf [08:32] hi all [09:29] hi [09:29] i noticed something weird with my server [09:30] it tries to give a dynamic ip to eth0 [09:30] whenever i plug the cable in [09:30] even though its configured static in /etc/network/interfaces [09:30] also it seemed to try to 'renew' the lease on its own and my server became inaccessible for a short while [09:30] sounds weird indeed. Mind pasting your interfaces file on fpaste.org? [09:30] lol fpaste.org [09:31] one sec [09:31] ersi: http://fpaste.org/JxLO/ [09:33] @aspire .. Is this a laptop? Do you have NetworkManager running? [09:33] its a netbook [09:33] there is no graphical interface [09:33] but i use wicd for the wireless card (wifi disabled right now) [09:33] oh, I get your 'lol' now. I just took whatever pastebin was in my memory :) [09:34] not sure about network manager though [09:34] heh [09:34] well, wicd is a 'network manager' [09:34] ersi: does it manage wired interfaces? [09:34] I would not be suprised if wicd is making this happen. Does it happen if you leave wicd off? [09:35] Yes, wired and wireless. It's a full fledged network manager [09:35] ok [09:35] that probably explains it [09:35] probably, but I'm unfortunally not certain [09:35] i should probably just configure wicd to use a static ip and then leave /etc/network/interfaces as it was [09:35] check if there's any way for it to leave your wired interfaces [09:35] yeah, sounds like a good plan [09:35] lets put it to the test [09:37] hello [09:37] there [09:37] there is one memory which is in failure on my server [09:38] how to find the one in failure ? [09:39] You remove the sticks and test them one by one with memtest [09:39] That's what I would do. [09:47] no [09:47] that's boring [09:47] i want to identify the one in failed by cli [09:48] hrmf... I have this apache virtualhost, enabled under /etc/apache/sites-enabled/icinga.nilu.no.conf. Even though the config looks right, apache falls through to the 'default' site. See http://paste.ubuntu.com/693652/ for the virtualhost [09:49] I've seen this before, but never managed to fix it without removing the default site - any idea how I can fix this? [09:50] where is no ? [09:50] icinga lol [09:51] that's a perfect solution to hacking your server [09:53] well do you ensite your conf ? [09:57] RoyK: please see http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/name-based.html "The main host goes away" section should refer to your situation. [10:01] iuytfr: Well, good luck and tell me if you find a solution [10:01] Only thing I could imagine would be if you'd somehow correspond the memory locations that are broken to which stick handles that location [10:11] you can also find with dmidecode [10:31] anyone have any experience using pptp on a virtual interface, or routing all of its traffic over one? === J__ is now known as Joe- [10:52] hey all.. Easy question here. I just created a new logrotate file that I want to run now. I thought the command logrotate newfile would run it now but it didn't seem to work. What am i missing? [10:54] nevermind. Ran with -d and then -f. All is well. [11:53] Hi, I'm awfully confused with bash on a lucid machine. [11:54] I'm sourching a file in our .bashrc and setting some environment variables [11:54] but those variables don't seem to be accessible from any cron [11:54] Even though my cron has a (. /home/username/.bashrc && /path/to/script) [11:55] the script doesn't seem to know of any of the environment variables which is in another file and sourced in .bashrc [11:55] Thoughts? :) [12:02] nigelb: Hmm.. so you've caught on that cron doesn't know about evn variables.. good. [12:03] I normally declare them *IN* the crontab. [12:03] Odd that sourcing doesn't work :/ [12:24] Daviey: Yeah [12:25] BUt I have a bunch of common variables. [12:25] Common to the code I'm deploying. Like, its part of the codebase. So we source all that into the user's bashrc [12:33] Daviey: I just prepared a MP for the merge of asterisk from debian if you would like to review [12:35] hi [12:35] what is the tool for simulating traffic [12:50] jamespage: rocking, will do [12:51] Daviey: I reviewed the upstream changelog and it appears to be bugfix/secfix only [12:51] but would appreciate a second opinion [12:51] there are **alot** of them [12:52] jamespage: yeah, seemed silly to even consider cherry pickin [12:53] Daviey: I was unsure about the VCS change in the MP - the branch it points to seems out-of-date so we might drop that [12:55] jamespage: Yes, that must go - please [12:55] Daviey: ack - I'll remove it now [12:55] switch back to debian stuff [12:56] nigelb: so, crontab isn't using bash? [12:56] nigelb: stock .bashrc isn't suitable for sourcing. [12:56] Daviey: crontab is using bash. [12:57] nigelb: create a crontab with: [12:57] Daviey: and we have done it before [12:57] MAILTO:nigel@funkyguy.com [12:57] * * * * * . /home/dave/.bashrc && env [12:57] email address and ~ needs updating. [12:58] hggdh: hey, my bugcontrol membership is about to expire, and it told me to ping you about it :) [12:59] hallyn: You know you get it for free now, right? [13:00] hallyn: you are in two teams which give you indirect membership. What more do you want? :_) [13:04] Daviey: I sort of hacked a fix. [13:05] I sourced the file which has our custom env varibales [13:05] that fixes "most" problems [13:05] The rest, I'll just manually correct the scripts to work with that. [13:05] Daviey: will you hate me even more if i uploaded a new nova snapshot today? [13:07] zul: no, we've planned for it. [13:07] zul: I like how you assume that Daviey hates you already :P [13:07] Daviey: ok...i have to check the tarball first [13:07] Daviey: asterisk branch updated [13:07] nigelb: oh i already know he has lots of love for me [13:07] zul: Can you merge vish's branch? [13:08] zul: dnsmasq-utils one.. and might want to check how change our conf to enable it by default. [13:08] Daviey: right did the new dnsmasq make it in? [13:08] zul: yup [13:09] well, i cherry picked that single part. [13:09] Daviey: where is it right now? [13:09] like bug number etc etc etc [13:11] https://code.launchpad.net/~vishvananda/nova/ubuntu/+merge/75875 [13:12] and bug to reference is bug 852771 [13:12] Launchpad bug 852771 in nova "dhcp leases are not released on instance termination" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852771 [13:13] Daviey: ok then i'll ignore :) [13:14] Daviey: thanks [13:14] zul: I'm trusting that you still have the nova-spawning-multiple-containers bug under control. Pls ping if you want me to look at it after all. [13:15] hallyn: yeah its still on my list [13:17] zul: excellent [13:17] hallyn: i know where its failing though at least [13:18] my last reproduction attempt was still failing due to the other nova bug you were solving :) [13:18] That is like looking down the barrel of a rifle, whilst holding the trigger and saying - "well, i know where the bullet comes from" [13:23] Hi I'm trying to install server 11.04 amd64 but the installation hangs around the network config point before partitioning). Could anyone help with why, (server 10.04 installs fine)? [13:31] who wants to review a diff i'm about to upload? [13:32] (limited time offer, open to anyone) [13:35] Guest76352: feel like trying the 11.10 beta? [13:40] zul: around [13:41] koolhead11: kind of...kind of busy right now [13:41] zul: openstack-dashboard is broken pkg [13:42] koolhead11: yeah debdiff welcomeed [13:45] zul: http://paste.ubuntu.com/693777/ python-django-mailer seems to be the culprit [13:46] koolhead11: cool...can you open up a bug about it...ill try to have a look at it today [13:46] pmatulis: is that going to be lts? [13:46] Guest76352: no [13:46] zul: cool. at same time i will try installing dashboard using the github source. [13:46] pmatulis: but 12.04 will be? [13:47] Guest76352: yes [13:47] i will use keystone packge from our oneiric repo [13:47] pmatulis: so if I install 11.10 beta I can just update and will, somewhere around release day, be using the stable version? [13:48] Guest76352: yes [13:49] pmatulis: ok then, I'll give it a go - I just booted from the 11.04 desktop cd alright and it's found my LSI SAS OK === scar[w]_ is now known as scar[w] [14:05] zul: Have you added conf for nova to use dnsmasq-utils thingy by default? [14:05] Daviey: yep i added vishy changes and doing a testbuild and testrun [14:06] awesome. [14:06] vishy changes being the add dnsmasq-utils and updating the nova-sudoers [14:13] zul: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-dashboard/+bug/854732 let me know if you need more info [14:13] Launchpad bug 854732 in openstack-dashboard "Broken openstack-dashboard package" [Undecided,New] [14:13] koolhead11: thanks [14:20] koolhead11: More info, in the form of a patch, would be great [14:23] Daviey: ? [14:24] koolhead11: If you had a patch which fixes it, it would be great! :) [14:28] Daviey: i will try installing it from the source. The way dashboard keeps changing it must be 2 difficult to keep updating dashboard package. [14:30] koolhead11: well we need to update soon. [14:30] Daviey: after 22ned once diablo relases will be good time i think. :) [14:31] heh [14:35] jamespage: call time? [14:35] robbiew: sure [14:35] jamespage: g+? [14:35] robbiew, +! [14:35] or +1 [14:36] heh === himcesjf1 is now known as himcesjf [14:47] Daviey: the problem is that quantum is a package dependency of dashboard now [14:51] pmatulis: so far so good, 11.10 b is installing and it's way past where 11.04 go stuck (which looks to perhaps be the ipv6 bit) [14:52] Guest76352: how did you try installing 11.04? [14:53] Guest76352: sounds fishy (10.04 good, 11.04 bad, 11.10 good), after confirming beta is good you may consider remaking your 11.04 CD (or however you installed). also consider testing 10.10 [14:58] zul: quantum?! [14:58] do we care for this release? [14:58] oh! [14:58] Daviey: yes and no [14:58] dashboard is a dep of quantum! [14:58] i see [14:58] bah [15:02] pmatulis: 11.04 was a default install. I ran the media test also [15:03] pmatulis: with 10.04, 11.04 and 11.10 all just boot from CD and hit 'Install Ubuntu' [15:03] pmatulis: 11.04 just gets stuck around the network config area before the partitioning - tried it 3 or 4 times [15:04] Guest76352: if you want to help you can re-attempt a 11.04 install and when it gets stuck get to a console (alt-F2) and look at the logs [15:04] /var/log/installer/syslog [15:04] Yeah I don't mind doing that [15:05] be good if I could help [15:08] Daviey: nova has been uploaded [15:08] Daviey: hey...so with eucalyptus still broken....do we want to consider removing it from the archive and either pulling the upcoming 3.0 release into partner or pointing users to the eucalyptus website? [15:09] zul: \o/ [15:09] robbiew: it isnt the final version :( [15:09] /o\ [15:10] robbiew: should be there friday [15:10] smoser: if you're not going to have time to sanity-check bug 850309, can you re-assign it to SpamapS? (and if he doesn't have time, he can toss it back ot me and i'll just "go for it") [15:10] Launchpad bug 850309 in libvirt "libvirt fails to autostart VM attached to a bridged port" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850309 [15:10] *\o/* [15:10] * robbiew stops his irc mime practice [15:12] here i thought those were pom-poms :) [15:12] "give me a j! give me a u! give me a j..." [15:13] i'm having the hardest time figuring out the differences between the -virtual kernel and the -server [15:13] can anyone help? [15:13] i think virtual has xen support and fewer hw drivers [15:14] aiui it's designed to run optimally in cloud instances [15:17] robbiew: So, it looks like it is much closer to being fixed than ever [15:17] Daviey: ah [15:17] I think let it run, and hopefuly fixed before release - if not, SRU [15:18] jamespage and SpamapS have both touched it this week. [15:18] Daviey: well jamespage is less confident than you are [15:18] ;) [15:19] Daviey: if it's busted at release, I'm fearful of users upgrading without reading release notes...and breaking their Euca deployment [15:20] robbiew: yeah, that is valid. [15:21] jamespage: Has upstream responded for your call for help? [15:22] robbiew: The problem is, that even just removing it from the archive, will still result in a broken system... it's not euca that induced the explosion, it's the depends. [15:22] So it's not even as if they can upgrade, and still keep the euca version from Natty. [15:22] Daviey: actually yes they have - yesterday [15:22] I'd not spotted the update [15:22] Daviey: ah, damn [15:22] jamespage: doh! [15:22] bug 851611 [15:22] james, james, james [15:22] Launchpad bug 851611 in eucalyptus "Oneiric: Upgrade to 2.0.1+bzr1256 blocks" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/851611 [15:23] fired [15:23] hallyn: yeah I know it has specifically the /proc/xen hooks, but wasn't sure if there was anthing else [15:23] hallyn: thanks [15:23] as penance I'll look at it now [15:23] lol [15:26] morning fellas o/ [15:27] hey lynxman [15:30] how do i change keyboard layout to scandic? [15:30] Daviey: apologies your optimism was well founded [15:33] jamespage: Initial signs look promising? [15:33] Daviey: yes [15:34] Great, now we need to sort out the nova to openstack migration path ;) [15:35] Is there some kind of tool I can use to get update notifications for my ubuntu servers? Something like update manager for desktop, but something I can access remotely that is aggregated for all my servers? [15:36] !landscape | savid [15:36] savid: Landscape makes the management and monitoring of Ubuntu systems simple and effective by combining world-class support with easy to use online management tools. https://landscape.canonical.com/ [15:36] Anything else is going to require some thought.. [15:37] Hmm, looks cool, but no free/open-source solutions? [15:38] nagios or zabbix could also do it, but would require some hacking [15:38] Ok. Thanks! [15:40] Daviey, get I faster bug fixes when I chase you down on this channel? ;-P [15:40] Daviey, zul, ping on bug 831100 [15:40] Launchpad bug 831100 in mysql-cluster-7.0 "mysql-cluster-7.0 version 7.1.9a-0ubuntu1 failed to build in oneiric" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/831100 [15:40] doko: ill take care of that one as well [15:41] doko: Okay - If you use ~ubuntu-server, you get 10 free L3 ping-on-irc credits. :) [15:41] doko / zul: 831100 is in the unapproved queue [15:41] I uploaded it a few hours ago [15:42] Daviey: ah ok [15:43] L3? [15:51] doko: Level 3. [15:56] zul: wow, fast fix on php-imap! [15:56] Daviey: i didnt do it [15:57] ah [15:58] \sh fixed it [16:03] gondoi, the answer is mostly 'nothing' [16:03] Daviey: working now - just booted an instances OK [16:03] hallyn, sorry, i didn't know that had gotten assigned to me. [16:03] smoser: whoa - did it not send you an email? [16:03] i get like 40,000 emails from launchpad [16:04] should run a filter for 'has beena ssigned to you' :) [16:04] zul: and any idea about the php-gettext failure? [16:04] smoser: hallyn: another difference I've seen is /dev/sda vs /dev/xvda [16:04] :/ [16:04] doko: not yet [16:04] smoser: like i say just lemme knwo if you have no time for that [16:04] smoser: hallyn: cept for mav which sticks to sda [16:06] smoser: i'm close to using /dev/null as my Maildir store, i keep running out of inodes. [16:06] gondoi, -virtual is basically -server with a subset of modules [16:07] drivers not relevant to "virtual" are removed. so install size is vastly smaller [16:07] lynxman: you said you were going to do a merge for puppet 2.7.3? you will probably need a FFE [16:08] zul: yeah I'm working on that right now, it's not too many lines, ffe? [16:08] zul: ah yeah, exception :) [16:08] zul: would make the puppet users happy, that's all the reasons I can think of [16:08] lynxman: and then pay with your blood...i mean beer [16:08] zul: my blood is beer at this point already :) [16:12] How can I check my virtual host file when I used to use apachectl? [16:12] gondoi, that will be gone post maverick [16:12] smoser: yeah, it's fixed in natty [16:13] "fixed" [16:13] lol [16:13] smoser: so speaking of removed modules :D [16:13] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/761809 [16:13] plesae open a bug [16:13] Launchpad bug 761809 in linux "Quota modules are missing from the package" [Undecided,Expired] [16:13] ah, you did. [16:13] lol [16:13] been there a while [16:14] gondoi, sorry for missing that. [16:14] smoser: no prob [16:14] obviously it hasn't been hurting us too bad, but we do still get complaints [16:14] please verify it is the case on the oneiric kernel (just unpacking that and listing modujles is enough), then copy me on it, and move it from 'expired' to 'confirmed' [16:15] k [16:15] gondoi, i think we can get that fixed in oneiric [16:15] sweet [16:15] what about backporting? [16:17] how do I check the syntax of changes in sites-available directory? [16:18] smoser: specifically lucid [16:19] gondoi, well, it has to be fixed in oneiric first [16:19] k [16:19] i believe on lucid you can just use the -server modules, right? [16:19] i know that sucks. [16:20] smoser: yes and no, it blows things up cause of the /dev/sda change with using -server [16:20] smoser: it can be done, but we will need to rework a few things [16:21] gondoi, but you can just cheat, right and lay down the -server modules on top of -virtual install ? [16:22] smoser: ahh yes, that is actually the current "workaround" ;-) [16:22] multitask++ [16:28] smoser: how can I unpack the deb package to the directory the file is currently in? [16:28] dpkg -c . [16:28] wait [16:28] dpkg -x [16:28] hm.. [16:28] actually -c will give you contents [16:28] -x extract [16:29] ahhh I overlooked that one [16:29] thanks [16:32] gondoi, so... [16:32] apparently there is a '-virtual-extras' package coming to an 11.10 release near you [16:33] .. [16:33] and it will have the modules that are in -server that were stripped. [16:33] so you can get them that way. [16:33] hmm [16:33] you see that on launchpad somewhere? [16:34] and what about lucid :( "LTS" [16:35] gondoi, right. checking on that. [16:35] okay [16:35] so the way to request that is to have it fixed in devleopment release [16:35] and then request it to be SRU'd [16:35] by "target"ing it to lucid [16:36] but the -extras will not be SRUd === mrmist_ is now known as mrmist [16:56] is there a way to have a block device in qemu mapped on to a directory on the host? or something like a directory on the host presented as a cifs server? [16:58] with qemu? doubt it [16:58] oh, wow, there is for the second question... now can I use it through libvirt? [16:59] yeah the first, would be pretty difficult (but I don't think theoretically impossible) [16:59] it is with vmware, not sure if virtualbox does it also [17:00] patdk-wk: not following, what is with vmware? [17:00] it can mount directories as a shared folder in the vm [17:01] ahh, ok, that must be over cifs/smb or some network fs, sounds like [17:01] nope [17:01] it looks like cifs, but it's a custom thing [17:01] hmm, then there would have to be special drivers for it [17:02] yep [17:03] vmhgfs [17:04] unfortunately it looks like libvirt doesn't support the -smb option for qemu, might there be an xml option for passing an arbitrary string to the qemu command line? [17:09]