[02:15] <Takyoji> Anyone have an idea of an alternative for people to map their location, as of our LoCo?
[02:52] <h00k> Takyoji: alternative to...?
[02:53] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: I'm still using 10.04...holding out for Gnome 3 to be in the repos.
[02:54] <tonyyarusso> h00k: LP used to have a Google Maps feature, but removed it :(
[02:54] <h00k> :o oh, they did!
[03:45] <Takyoji> tonyyarusso: a replacement for the map feature on Launchpad
[03:52]  * Obsidian1723 is waiting for a fork of gnome2
[03:52] <Obsidian1723> I'm not a fan of gnome3 or unity at all.
[03:53] <Obsidian1723> unity, gnome3, and even Windows 8 Metro UIs, all alienate users.
[03:53] <Takyoji> So yea, I'm writing a poll about that, for the mailing list. :P
[03:54] <Obsidian1723> I love gnome2's minimalistic-yet-very-customizable approache. XFCE is close, but close enough. It lacks.
[03:55] <Obsidian1723> Unless someone forks gnome2, I'll probably just go to the command line or XFCE.
[03:57] <Takyoji> I have the questions "current distro", "distro you'd suggest to others", and so on. Should I have it single choice or multiple choices?
[04:06] <Takyoji> are there any distros where GNOME 3 is pretty much choiceless? :P
[04:25] <tonyyarusso> What do you mean by choiceless?
[04:25] <Takyoji> as in it being the default desktop environment, I guess
[04:29] <tonyyarusso> Fedora
[04:30] <Takyoji> Also, should I have it multiple choice or not for questions of "current desktop OS", "desktop OS you'd suggest to others", etc?
[04:30] <Takyoji> Whereas, they can choose more than one option at once or not
[04:50] <Takyoji> tonyyarusso: Look good? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?hl=en_US&formkey=dHV5N19XOGFDbFozNkhiUWVhNy1IV0E6MQ
[05:00] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: um, Unix is not Linux.
[05:00] <Takyoji> I know that
[05:00] <Takyoji> So "none of the above", or? :P
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> yeah
[05:01] <Takyoji> Or "nothing Linux/Unix"?
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> sure
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> You may also need to explain the "as of a year ago" bit to people more.  Like, but a blurb at the top stating your purpose, so they know what's going on.
[05:02] <h00k> Takyoji: I may have responded, but I'm from WI. Don't kill me.
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> Also, I'd suggest calling it a "survey" instead of a "poll".
[05:05] <Takyoji> after I already sent it across the mailing lists with that title. :P
[05:09] <Takyoji> Quite nifty of Google Doc's realtime nature.
[05:13] <Takyoji> One of them in favor of of Unity and GNOME 3, another with hatred of GNOME 3 and Unity
[05:16] <Takyoji> Heh, a likeminded person
[05:16] <Takyoji> Unity is horrendous on a multi-monitor setup; really annoys me that it still hasn't been addressed
[05:17] <Takyoji> I have 2 monitors
[05:17] <rlaager> That's how all this new stuff is. It works on some developer's machine and they push it out.
[05:17] <rlaager> Meanwhile, those of us that actually want to do things with our computers have to endure init scripts that blow up (upstart), machines that don't boot or show no/broken status (plymouth), etc.
[05:18] <Takyoji> really disappointing to see all those great GNOME 3 panel applet go to waste
[05:18] <Takyoji> You should see how spiffy I have my setup, I actually have it where there's a panel on the right (like 100 pixels wide or so) on a widescreen display, and use that panel to display rows of realtime graphs of CPU usage, RAM, network usage, SWAP, and so on
[05:19] <Takyoji> and by concept of Unity (and perhaps GNOME 3), there is no way possible to do that.
[05:19] <Takyoji> I was also at some point going to write a panel applet that would also show realtime stats of my web servers as well, for the sheer curiosity and sake of monitoring
[05:20] <Takyoji> but again, those possibilities are thrown out the window
[05:22] <Takyoji> and currently Linux Mint is the top suggested OS for others (as I would also do myself)
[07:16] <FloatingGoat> i still use 11.04