[00:32] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: got my laptop ordered.
[00:36] <jedijf> MutantTurkey: tell more
[00:36] <jedijf> which
[00:36] <jedijf> and congrats!
[00:38] <MutantTurkey> x220
[00:38] <MutantTurkey> with the it 2420m
[00:38] <MutantTurkey> i5'
[00:39] <MutantTurkey> I was debating getting the slice battery, but I am got the 9cell
[00:39] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: by the looks of your response it's as if I got a new dog, or wife, or car. not a computer haha
[00:42] <jedijf> dude...i just read a cnet review, it's better than that other stuff you mentioned
[00:42] <jedijf> hands down
[00:42] <MutantTurkey> I know
[00:42] <MutantTurkey> I am psyched
[00:42] <jedijf> i meant dog wife or car
[00:42] <MutantTurkey> that too.
[00:43] <jedijf> and its sooooo thinkpad
[00:43] <MutantTurkey> I know
[00:43] <MutantTurkey> I was thinking the edge, but it's just Meh
[00:43] <jedijf> i excited for you
[00:43] <MutantTurkey> i am excited to run linux on a non-ghetto system
[00:43] <MutantTurkey> I can actually use new features and run Gnome and things!
[00:43] <jedijf> expectations lead to resentments
[00:44] <MutantTurkey> lol
[00:44] <MutantTurkey> I am definitely still doing arch
[00:44] <MutantTurkey> I had a half second though of trying ubuntu... I dunno
[00:44] <MutantTurkey> Unity seems cool though, but I don't know if the workflow is any good.
[00:44] <jedijf> it actually is
[00:44] <MutantTurkey> I was on a Mac all summer and I am finally getting back into a regular workflow
[00:44] <jedijf> once you get used to it
[00:44] <MutantTurkey> I need tiling really badly
[00:45] <jedijf> i am better on unity than gnome3; but that's just because of usage
[00:45] <MutantTurkey> gnome3 is not usable imho
[00:45] <MutantTurkey> and also doesn't have any config (wtf?)
[00:45] <MutantTurkey> every new version the options get dumbed down more and more
[00:45] <jedijf> unity on my pacs netty get used all night; gnome3 is sitting on my arch box in the cave, but rarely use xwin on it
[00:45] <MutantTurkey> I want more options not less!
[00:46] <MutantTurkey> once I get a laptop, this Atom is going to be my file server.
[00:46] <MutantTurkey> debating about dropping my VPS now that I could have a dedicated server.
[00:46] <jedijf> your new one is 12.5?
[00:46] <jedijf> inch
[00:46] <MutantTurkey> yes
[00:46] <jedijf> omg
[00:47] <jedijf> envy
[00:47] <MutantTurkey> you better be envious
[00:47] <MutantTurkey> though I ran me a LOT. like 1117.42
[00:47] <MutantTurkey> but Drexel discount helpeed
[00:47] <jedijf> wow
[00:48] <jedijf> envy disappeared; almost instantly
[00:48] <MutantTurkey> yeah...
[00:48] <MutantTurkey> it's well worth it!
[00:48] <MutantTurkey> I mean base config was like 800 bucks, but I need to get all the flashy stuff!
[00:48] <jedijf> i can get 150'ish lappys for that
[00:48] <MutantTurkey> yeah.
[00:48] <MutantTurkey> I figure, 1 good investment is better than 50 crappy
[00:48] <MutantTurkey> I am using this as my new motto.
[00:49] <jedijf> yeah...it is
[00:49] <MutantTurkey> like my guitar, cost 750 bucks, but it will last forever.
[00:50] <MutantTurkey> dooode 14 hour battery lifeee is gonna be awesome
[00:50] <waltman> We've got a Drexel discount?
[00:51] <jedijf> waltman: he used yours :P
[00:51] <MutantTurkey> waltman: yes!
[00:51] <MutantTurkey> we do
[00:51] <MutantTurkey> go on one.drexel.edu
[00:51] <teddy-dbear> can I get a teddy bear discount?
[00:51] <MutantTurkey> regular login -> community link -> bottom right hand
[00:51]  * waltman checks
[00:52] <MutantTurkey> teddy-dbear: are you a member of the linux foundation?
[00:52] <MutantTurkey>  I think they have discounts too..
[00:52] <MutantTurkey> also, I think if you just barrowed the link from someone it works, there is not ID needed past the link
[00:52] <teddy-dbear> I'm a member unto myself :-D
[00:53] <MutantTurkey> indeed
[00:53] <waltman> the community link is all athletics and the triangle
[00:53] <MutantTurkey> uh
[00:53] <MutantTurkey> hold up
[00:54] <MutantTurkey> under drexel
[00:54] <MutantTurkey>  ithink
[00:54] <MutantTurkey> yep
[00:54] <jedijf> uh oh, 1100.00 jock strap?
[00:54] <MutantTurkey> under drexel.
[00:54] <MutantTurkey> 404 jock strap more like.
[00:56] <waltman> Ah, that!
[00:56] <waltman> You don't necessarily need to go through that. I bought my macbook tax-free with a student discount at the apple store at the Christiana Mall in Delaware.
[00:57] <waltman> If you don't want to go that far, you can also go to the computer store in the Penn book store.
[01:03] <MutantTurkey> waltman: schvat?
[01:03] <MutantTurkey> I mean... I ordered it online, drexel gave me a 10% discount, so thats like 120 bucks (and i don't even go to drexel xD)
[01:04] <waltman> schvat? what does that mean?
[01:04] <MutantTurkey> it means what but with an schv
[01:04] <waltman> Drexel didn't make you login?
[01:04] <MutantTurkey> waltman: they did, I was a summer intern - therefore I have access
[01:04] <waltman> I assumed you were a Drexel student :)
[01:04] <waltman> ah
[01:04] <MutantTurkey> :) nope
[01:04] <MutantTurkey> I go to MCCC
[01:10] <ChinnoDog> Someone tell a good joke
[01:10] <jedijf> windows 8
[01:11] <MutantTurkey> windows 8 is awesome
[01:11] <MutantTurkey> I am fully convinced that it will bring flash down completely!
[01:11] <MutantTurkey> lesser of two evils is microsoft
[01:11] <MutantTurkey> :|
[01:11]  * MutantTurkey pokerface
[01:12] <ChinnoDog> ...
[01:16] <MutantTurkey> cmon that is at least one good side of windows 8
[01:16] <rmg51> time will tell
[01:29] <waltman> A pirate walks into a bar...
[01:31] <waltman> ...and he's got a ship's wheel attached to the front of his trousers.  The bartender asks, "What's that ship's wheel doing attached to your trousers?"
[01:31] <waltman> The pirate replies, "I don't know, but it's drivin' me nuts!"
[01:31] <waltman> I'll be here all week.
[01:32] <teddy-dbear> I won't :-/
[01:32] <waltman> Tough crowd.
[01:57] <MutantTurkey> let me give it a shot
[01:58] <MutantTurkey> so MutantTurkey is digging a trench around his house to work on the landscaping,
[01:58] <MutantTurkey> while standing 5 feet in dirt, the neighbor (very annoying) says "wow I see you are doing a lot of work"
[01:58] <MutantTurkey> so i said "well, I am knee deep in S***
[01:58] <MutantTurkey> that is my funny story of the day
[02:00]  * teddy-dbear waits for the funny part
[02:02] <MutantTurkey> ...
[02:02] <MutantTurkey> that was the joke.
[02:03] <MutantTurkey> you know, standing in a hole of dirt.
[02:03] <MutantTurkey> says KNEE deep in s***
[02:03] <MutantTurkey> that was sort of a funny joke
[02:03] <MutantTurkey> anyoe familiar with Sak on linux?
[02:05]  * teddy-dbear wanders off to bed
[02:05] <MutantTurkey> :[
[02:05] <MutantTurkey> I'll be here all night!
[02:11] <MutantTurkey> ...
[02:11] <MutantTurkey> well he's a quitter. that's it.
[02:52] <MutantTurkey> I am a quitter too. 10:52 feels like 4am 0_0
[03:07] <ChinnoDog> quitters
[03:14] <andrew> arr
[03:14] <andrew> avast ye scalywags
[03:41] <ChinnoDog> why did rocket2dmn deactivate himself?
[03:44] <InHisName> I have issues with 11.04 - NONE of the installers work all have crash bug start when trying to use.   So I have choice in 11.04 install disk:   Upgrade 11.04 to 11.04      .....    OR .....     Wipe out 11.04 and install 11.04
[03:45] <jthan> Did you back up your stuff?
[03:50] <InHisName> 72gigs worth Plus list of installs via apt-get saved away.   Should do it all.
[03:52] <InHisName> SOooo, do I try the upgrade or the wipeout and replace ?
[03:57] <InHisName> Sandman's got all of you blottoed for the night?
[03:59] <InHisName> Pumpkin time !
[04:00] <InHisName> ZZZZzzzzzzssssss
[04:10] <pleia2> ChinnoDog: well, he lives in new jersey
[04:10] <pleia2> some people leave teams when they move away ;)
[04:11] <ChinnoDog> oic
[04:55] <pleia2> btw, I'm going to be in Philly on 11.10 release day :)
[04:55] <andrew> when's that again?
[04:55] <pleia2> oct 13
[04:55] <andrew> hmm
[04:55] <pleia2> we should haz party
[04:55] <pleia2> I will be staying downtown
[04:56] <andrew> as long as it's not saturday evening (or sunday morning) unless you want to hold it out where I'll be...
[04:56] <pleia2> the 13th is thursday evening
[04:56] <pleia2> I'll be around saturday though
[08:34] <JonathanD>  morning
[08:58] <rmg51> morning JonathanD
[09:10] <JonathanD> hey rmg51
[09:10] <rmg51> o/
[09:13] <JonathanD> Whats up?
[09:16] <rmg51> just us :-D
[09:16] <rmg51> to early for much to be going on
[09:17] <JonathanD> indeed.
[09:17] <rmg51> just reading the paper and getting ready for work
[09:21] <JonathanD> I could use some coffee.
[09:21] <JonathanD> But the place isn't open yet.
[09:32] <rmg51> you don't know how to make your own?
[09:33] <JonathanD> I don't have any.
[09:34] <rmg51> :'(
[11:37] <jedijf> JonathanD: didn't i leave coffee at fosscon?
[11:37] <jedijf> at least some
[11:55] <jedijf> pleia2: we'll have to do a Center City release party!@!!! and a qmart one too, later, with disks
[11:58] <waltman> qmart!
[12:01] <jedijf> your tractor will rock unity release party
[12:03] <teddy-dbear> morning
[12:03] <jedijf> i'm thinking barcade for the pleia2 release party in cc, if they get open
[12:06] <jedijf> http://www.thefeast.com/philadelphia/restaurants/FEAST-EAT-PHI-Philly-Barcade-Bringing-Beer-BurgerTime-to-Fishtown-128462808.html
[12:17] <JonathanD> jedijf: yes.
[12:17] <JonathanD> jedijf: I forgot about that.
[12:17] <JonathanD> It's in my box-o-foss-stuff.
[12:17] <JonathanD> I think.
[13:07] <jedijf> rabbi fight is now way to start tuesday
[13:07] <jedijf> s/now/no
[13:16] <JonathanD> I need an HDD.
[13:20] <jthan> JonathanD: newegg daily deals
[13:20] <JonathanD> mayhaps.
[13:20] <JonathanD> The low end ones are only $40 anyway on newegg.
[13:21] <jthan> Yeah. I'm pretty picky about my drives.
[13:21] <JonathanD> This is for a T60 I have sitting around.
[13:21] <JonathanD> I'm not even sure what I'll use it for. Don't want to go nuts on it.
[13:21] <jthan> I don't know why. I have mirrored backups now, and it's not like I use windows to worry about using my product key too many times if I had to reinstall :-p
[13:22] <JonathanD> I think in this case cheaper is better.
[13:22] <JonathanD> My money goes into the T61, not the T60
[13:23] <jthan> andrew: you do mirrored backups, right? If so - what method do you use?
[13:24] <jthan> My way is just rigged - I have a bunch of bash scripts that just use rsync to keep folders in sync across drives.
[13:24]  * jthan is going off on a tangent
[13:24] <InHisName> G'mawnin'
[13:24] <JonathanD> I think I'll get more ram for the 61, move it's ram to the 60, and get a cheap disk.
[13:25] <jthan> What kind of disk are you really looking for? If you're really looking for "cheap" there's a whole bunch sitting in my computer room
[13:25] <JonathanD> $149 for the ram.
[13:25] <JonathanD> jthan: well, I wanted to have this thing around as a spare... for the kids to mess on, or for my parents when they go to the shore.
[13:26] <JonathanD> It'll probably have to be a dual boot since they'll want windows. So "big enough" for that, but thats it.
[13:26] <jthan> I think I have a 250GB drive out of a dell sitting right now
[13:26] <jthan> But I'd have to check to verify that
[13:26] <JonathanD> SATA 2.5 inch?
[13:26] <jthan> I do believe, yes.
[13:26] <JonathanD> I think the 60 is sata, anyway.
[13:26] <JonathanD> I had a 160 in my desk but I just fired it up and it looks very broken.
[13:26] <JonathanD> clicky clicky broken.
[13:26] <jthan> Hate when that happens.
[13:27] <jthan> Anyhow, if you can use it and I do indeed have it, you're welcome to it.
[13:27] <jthan> Because obviously I'm not using it.
[13:27] <JonathanD> That would make me happy.
[13:27] <JonathanD> I hate to see a thinkpad not working :P
[13:27] <JonathanD> It was working, mind. When it was given to me it had a 200GB solid state.
[13:28] <JonathanD> But thats in my 61 now.
[13:28] <JonathanD> and the disk from my 61 is acting funny.
[13:28] <jthan> If you think of it, PM me later and remind me to check when I get home tonight. I won't get home til about 10 probably.
[13:28] <InHisName> I have issues with 11.04 on my spare computer  - NONE of the installers work all have crash bug start when trying to use.   So I have choice in 11.04 install disk:   Upgrade 11.04 to 11.04      .....    OR .....     Wipe out 11.04 and install 11.04.   /home backed up and saved list of installed goodies from apt-get.
[13:28] <JonathanD> as in "writing" stuff that can't be read later.
[13:28] <JonathanD> ok.
[13:29] <JonathanD> I'm confused.
[13:29] <JonathanD> YOu have 11.04, but the 11.04 disk doesn't work?
[13:29] <jthan> No - aptitude/apt-get aren't working
[13:29] <InHisName> yes, the 1104 installed has broken.  Needs to be fixed.
[13:29] <JonathanD> ah
[13:29] <JonathanD> that makes more sense.
[13:30] <jthan> InHisName: Where is your /home backed up? If it's on a seperate partition you should be able to keep it in tact when you reinstall.
[13:30] <jthan> If not, you just have to move the files back after your install from wherever your /home is
[13:31] <InHisName> So, I have choice on 11.04 disk:   upgrade 11.04 to 11.04        ---- or    -------   wipeout partition and install fresh new.
[13:31] <jthan> install fresh
[13:35] <InHisName>    /home is backed up to a networked drive on another box.   I have copy of all installed goodies from apt-get saved in file.  I can use that to REinstall everything.      Why skip over the upgrade same to same ?   Any rationale ?
[13:35] <jthan> Doesn't make sense, might not eliminate the problem.
[13:35] <jthan> Why not take the safe road and start fresh?
[13:36] <InHisName> So You take the do it ONCE and for all and be DONE with it!  method.
[13:37] <InHisName> Probably the best justification of them all.
[13:37] <jthan> Yes. That's how I work.
[13:45] <erstazi> has anyone ever seen a DVD that is larger than 6GB? or is DD just running wild?
[13:48] <InHisName> aren't double sided at 9GB ?
[13:49] <erstazi> InHisName: yes, but this is single sided (: I think /bin/dd was running wild!
[13:49] <InHisName> OH,
[13:50] <InHisName> I am trying to reinstall ubuntu.   The partition is lvm.    I've installed in liveCD lvm2.  What else do I need to do to get the partition visible to the installer ?
[13:51] <InHisName> /dev/sda9   needs to be connected into lvm somehow
[13:52] <InHisName> erstazi: I assme it is NOT blu-ray
[13:52] <InHisName> s/ss/ssu/
[13:54] <erstazi> InHisName: nope. just a data DVD. I think /bin/dd was just running wild
[13:55] <InHisName> bettern' girls gone wild ?
[13:55] <erstazi> probably, who knows (:
[14:51] <erstazi> so, this is even more odd, in Win2k3, it says it is 7.54 GB!
[14:52] <ChinnoDog> Standard dual layer single sided DVD is 8.4gb. Why is this surprising?
[14:52] <erstazi> ChinnoDog: this is single layer
[14:53] <erstazi> also, it is a very highly proprietary CD.
[14:53] <ChinnoDog> What is this an install CD for?
[14:54] <erstazi> ChinnoDog: um, let me PM you. Do you mind?
[14:54] <ChinnoDog> np
[15:57] <ChinnoDog> sup lamalex
[18:36] <ChinnoDog> bts3685|vps: Why has thee forsaken us? I'm going to be in Nola next month. Are you living there or what?
[18:37] <jedijf> why did you give him time to pack
[18:37] <ChinnoDog> Should I have hunted him down without telling him? lol
[18:39] <jedijf> facebook him
[18:53] <JonathanD> jthan: would you have use for 2x2GB laptop DDR3?
[20:26] <pvl1> hello
[20:53] <ChinnoDog> hi pvl1
[20:57] <pvl1> hello
[20:57] <pvl1> whats up
[22:09] <rmg51> flame wars++
[22:09] <SamuraiAlba> Good bacon to all!
[23:03] <GeekyAdam> ...um...
[23:03] <GeekyAdam> why does it say im still logged in as Adom?
[23:25] <Adom> that's better