[03:57] <nuvolari> fp
[03:57] <nuvolari> mornings mornings!
[03:57]  * nuvolari dies
[05:00] <superfly> morning nuvolari
[05:00] <superfly> and why are you dying all the time?
[05:14] <nuvolari> superfly: mornings
[05:14] <nuvolari> superfly: all the time it feels as if I'm about to say my last words :P
[05:15] <nuvolari> but this morning in particular we had extra inspiration along the road on our bicycle trip, so pedalled extra hard
[05:15] <superfly> nuvolari: you're so dramatic, you could be emo
[05:16] <nuvolari> nemo is a fish, I'm not a fish
[05:16] <superfly> my point exactly.
[05:17] <nuvolari> OH-Kay, I'll try to be a little more subtle :P
[05:18] <nuvolari> what's wrong with dramatic anyway? it's the only bit of excitement I have :P
[05:22] <superfly> nuvolari: typically we leave drama to the girls ;-)
[05:32] <cocooncrash> Well said.
[05:33] <superfly> :-)
[05:36] <nuvolari> pdf ffft.
[05:38] <superfly> oh, nuvolari, I bought myself a netbook last night
[05:53] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[05:55] <superfly> morning Kilos
[05:58] <superfly> môre maiatoday
[05:59] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[06:09] <nuvolari> superfly: cool! what did you get?
[06:09] <nuvolari> morning oom Kilos 
[06:09] <Kilos> mornin nuvolari 
[06:11] <superfly> nuvolari: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004G8QZPG
[06:16] <nuvolari> superfly: awesome! looks cool too!
[06:23] <sakhi> morning
[06:26] <nuvolari> morning sakhi 
[06:26] <Kilos> hi sakhi 
[06:47] <superfly> nuvolari: thanks. it's being delivered to my mom-in-law, so I don't pay postage... I just pick it up from them when we visit there in a few weeks
[08:33] <magespawn> morning all
[08:33] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[08:42] <magespawn> whats up kilos?
[08:43] <Kilos> n othing new, and there
[08:43] <magespawn> not much. opened a can of worms last night hey?
[08:45] <Kilos> lol
[08:46] <magespawn> nice to have their concern though
[08:46] <Kilos> yeah
[08:47] <Kilos> the guys will look after you and guide you
[08:48] <Kilos> and maybe one or two will come feed you peanuts
[08:50] <magespawn> i am missing something, why would i need the peanuts
[08:50] <Kilos> lol when you locked up
[08:51] <magespawn> ha they are never going to catch me. i am invincible.
[08:51] <Kilos> hehe
[08:53] <magespawn> wait till they have read the blog post. they might just decide to come and shot me straight away to save the internet./
[08:53] <magespawn> shoot
[08:53] <Kilos> lol
[08:53] <Kilos> dont be naughty
[08:53] <magespawn> anyway i have to go do some work now.
[08:53] <Kilos> enjoy
[09:47] <superfly> Kilos: do you know what magespawn's blog address is?
[09:48] <Kilos> i got it somehwere in history superfly 
[09:48] <Kilos> sec i look for it
[09:51] <Kilos> is this it
[09:51] <Kilos> http://www.gandcnet.com/g-c-blogs/bushwaters
[09:52] <superfly> thanks Kilos
[09:52] <Kilos> is that it??
[09:53] <superfly> it looks like it might be
[09:53] <Kilos> yaya
[09:53] <Kilos> http://bushwaters.gandcnet.com/
[09:54] <Kilos> i see these 2 in history
[13:34] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[13:34]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[13:35] <inetpro> Maaz: and rusks please
[13:35] <Maaz> inetpro: Go get it yourself!
[13:35] <inetpro> eish
[13:36] <inetpro> Kilos: who taught this thing to be so nasty?
[13:38] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro!
[13:39] <inetpro> thanks Maaz
[13:46] <superfly> afternoon inetpro
[13:46] <inetpro> hiho superfly
[13:49]  * nlsthzn waves... meeting tonight?
[14:59] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[14:59]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[15:00] <Kilos> Maaz, with milk
[15:00] <Maaz> Yay Kilos You aren't one of those skinny guys that needs to drink black coffee to cast a shadow
[15:00] <Kilos> Maaz, and rusks
[15:00] <Maaz> I hid them away Kilos Pm me and I'll tell you where they are
[15:00] <Kilos> hmm
[15:02] <Kilos> afternoon inetpro 
[15:02] <Kilos> Maaz, define jabberwocky
[15:02] <Maaz> Kilos: jabberwocky n 1: nonsensical language (according to Lewis Carroll)
[15:03] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[15:04] <Kilos> Maaz, thank you
[15:04] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure
[15:06] <Kilos> Maaz, ping
[15:06] <Maaz> Kilos: pong
[15:07] <Kilos> 10 secs
[16:31] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn kbmonkey 
[16:32] <superfly> naandsê oom Kilos
[16:32] <Kilos> naand superfly 
[16:33] <nlsthzn> Alo
[16:33] <kbmonkey> naand :)
[16:34] <superfly> hiya nlsthzn and kbmonkey
[16:34] <nlsthzn> Hello superfly kbmonkey and uncle Kilos 
[16:35] <kbmonkey> i <3 linux :] i just deleted a windows setup iso and recycled all my old CD's. i don't own a single copy of win now. he he
[16:36] <Kilos> lol
[16:36] <Kilos> well done
[16:36] <kbmonkey> cleaning out everything for the move
[16:36] <Kilos> sometimes you need to use windows at work or with clients
[16:37] <Kilos> when are you actually moving kbmonkey 
[16:37] <Kilos> its a long trip
[16:37] <kbmonkey> my licenses have all expired so no point in keeping them
[16:37] <Kilos> sore bum far
[16:37] <kbmonkey> ha ha. i fly next week thurs Kilos 
[16:37] <Kilos> licences?
[16:38] <Kilos> hehe
[16:38] <kbmonkey> hope my arms dont go sore from the flying
[16:38] <Kilos> lol. you not allowed to be online or use cellfones i think
[16:39] <kbmonkey> i think youre right
[16:39] <kbmonkey> only 2 hour flight but
[16:39] <Kilos> ah yeah thats not too bad
[16:40] <Kilos> time to eat only
[16:40] <kbmonkey> is everyone here for the meeting? :)
[16:40] <Kilos> still early
[16:42] <kbmonkey> ah true. 
[16:42] <octoquad> hey everyone :)
[16:42] <Kilos> lo octoquad 
[16:42] <kbmonkey> hello octoquad 
[16:43] <octoquad> is the IRC meeting still on for this evening?
[16:43] <Kilos> yip
[16:43] <kbmonkey> and other ninjas nlsthzn and superfly 
[16:43] <octoquad> kewl
[16:43] <kbmonkey> yes let me make up some meeting agendas
[16:43]  * nlsthzn will soon be going sleepy... day shift... I R sorry
[16:44] <kbmonkey> np :]
[16:44] <Kilos>  no nlsthzn 
[16:44] <Kilos> no missing meetings
[16:44] <nlsthzn> hehe :'(
[16:44] <kbmonkey> sticky bun fines
[16:45] <Kilos> lol at least be here for the opening registration
[16:47] <kbmonkey> I heard someone proposed a monthly Ubuntu release schedule. hectic.
[16:48] <Kilos> hi |3o|3 
[16:48] <nlsthzn> Was just a blog post... the response on the forum was hectic
[16:48] <nlsthzn> end of the world type posts
[16:49] <kbmonkey> Kilos you remember Maaz did not listen to me last time. Do you think he has been told to listen now?
[16:49] <Kilos> lol , unless you been removed as an admin
[16:50] <Kilos> ask him
[16:50] <Kilos> drubin, will you be here to attend the meeting and check maaz listens to kbmonkey 
[16:51] <kbmonkey> does anyone here have anything they like to talk about in our meet? let me know, ill add to the agenda...
[16:55]  * nlsthzn is always here for the snacks... even if he should be sleeping
[16:55] <Kilos> lol
[16:55] <nlsthzn> btw, what time is the party starting... half past?
[16:55] <kbmonkey> he he
[16:55] <kbmonkey> yes
[16:55] <Kilos> yip
[16:56] <Kilos> kbmonkey, you using xchat
[16:56] <kbmonkey> do you think more people will join for then?
[16:56] <kbmonkey> yes Kilos 
[16:56] <Kilos> look at who is all online and ping some of them
[16:57] <Kilos> Owkkuri, you attending tonights meeting?
[16:57] <kbmonkey> Maaz coffee on
[16:57]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[16:57] <Owkkuri> Kilos: nope
[16:57] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[16:57] <Maaz> Kilos: Okay
[16:58] <Kilos> aw why Owkkuri ?
[16:58] <kbmonkey> i went on a kungfu camp this weekend Kilos. i really acquainted with the floor, lol.
[16:59] <kbmonkey> in a nature reserve nogal, there were zebras and duikertjies all around us.
[16:59] <Kilos> he he
[16:59] <Kilos> nice
[16:59] <Kilos> i gotta go eat quick.
[17:00] <kbmonkey> bring us back a doggie bag pls
[17:01]  * nlsthzn goes for a quick shower... there better be cookies when I get back... nom nom nom
[17:01] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for kbmonkey and Kilos!
[17:14] <kbmonkey> Maaz thanks
[17:14] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Sure
[17:19] <kbmonkey> Maaz what did you do with the rusks?
[17:19] <Maaz> kbmonkey: I'll remember that
[17:20] <superfly> Maaz: what did
[17:20] <Maaz> superfly: *blink*
[17:20] <superfly> Maaz: what did you do
[17:20] <Maaz> superfly: Huh?
[17:20] <superfly> Maaz: what
[17:20] <Maaz> superfly: Huh?
[17:20] <superfly> Maaz: last factoid
[17:20] <Maaz> superfly: What?
[17:20] <superfly> Maaz: last fact
[17:20] <Maaz> superfly: Huh?
[17:20] <superfly> Maaz: how do I use factoid
[17:20] <Maaz> superfly: Factoids are arbitrary pieces of information stored by a key. Factoids beginning with a command such as "<action>" or "<reply>" will supress the "name verb value" output. Search and replace functions won't use real regexs unless appended with the 'r' flag.
[17:20] <Maaz> You can use it like this:
[17:20] <Maaz>   search [for] [<limit>] [(facts|values) [containing]] (<pattern>|/<pattern>/[r]) [from <start>]
[17:20] <Maaz>   literal <name> [( #<from number> | /<pattern>/[r] )]
[17:20] <Maaz>   forget <name> [( #<number> | /<pattern>/[r] )]
[17:20] <Maaz>   <name> is the same as <other name>
[17:20] <Maaz>   <name> [( #<number> | /<pattern>/[r] )] += <suffix>
[17:20] <Maaz>   <name> [( #<number> | /<pattern>/[r] )] ~= ( s/<regex>/<replacement>/[g][i][r] | y/<source>/<dest>/ )
[17:20] <Maaz>   <factoid> [( #<number> | /<pattern>/[r] )]
[17:20] <Maaz>   <name> (<verb>|=<verb>=) [also] <value>
[17:20] <Maaz>   last set factoid
[17:20] <superfly> ah
[17:20] <superfly> Maaz: last set factoid
[17:20] <Maaz> superfly: It was: what did you
[17:21] <superfly> Maaz: forget what did you
[17:21] <Maaz> superfly: Righto
[17:21] <kbmonkey> oops :p
[17:21] <Kilos> lol
[17:23] <kbmonkey> is everyone feeling energetic tonight?
[17:23] <superfly> no
[17:23] <nlsthzn> So... I hope we have a fun filled agenda... or I may just fall asleep zzzzzz
[17:23] <superfly> well, my toddler is
[17:23] <Kilos> nope. been a bad head day
[17:24] <kbmonkey> ouch Kilos that can't be too nice 
[17:24] <Kilos> no slept near the whole day
[17:24] <Kilos> but didnt wanna miss the meeting
[17:24] <kbmonkey> so dedicated!
[17:25] <nlsthzn> I nominate Kilos for team mascot
[17:25] <Kilos> no man, just nosy
[17:25] <kbmonkey> we need to build an electronic brain skullcap to transfer Kilos's mind into irc and be our new Maaz 
[17:25] <Kilos> bmg505, meeting in 5
[17:26] <Kilos> lol
[17:26] <Kilos> maaz is too clever
[17:26] <Kilos> Kerbero, meeting in 5
[17:27] <Kilos> confluency, you attending?
[17:27] <octoquad> brb
[17:27]  * nlsthzn wishes the marker line was working in this channel :(
[17:28] <Kilos> what marker line nlsthzn 
[17:28] <Kilos> inetpro, ping
[17:29] <nlsthzn> In XChat you can have the last place you read have a read line so if you come back after a while you can easily catch up with the conversation... works in most channels... but not this one :/
[17:30] <Kilos> if you just go to another  channel it does it as soon as someone chats
[17:30] <Kilos> or even another workspace at times
[17:30] <kbmonkey> should we give it 1 more min
[17:31] <Kilos> xchat needs a nudge function like pidgin to shake everyones screens
[17:31] <Kilos> or attention button
[17:31] <kbmonkey> nothing shakes my screen except me
[17:32] <nlsthzn> Kilos, nope... most channels work that way, but not ubuntu-za... very odd... oh well :)
[17:32] <kbmonkey> wow good point nlsthzn, never realized that.
[17:32] <kbmonkey> very odd indeed
[17:32] <Kilos> no maia even
[17:33] <superfly> kbmonkey: I reckon we should start
[17:33] <superfly> I have to go give a little boy a shower soon
[17:33] <kbmonkey> agreed
[17:33] <kbmonkey> Maaz start meeting about Monthly IRC meeting
[17:33]  * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles
[17:34] <kbmonkey> Maaz I am Wesley Werner
[17:34] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Yessir
[17:34] <octoquad> nlsthzn: it works for me, it's a red line right
[17:34] <octoquad> ?
[17:34] <nlsthzn> Maaz I am Neil Oosthuizen
[17:34] <Maaz> nlsthzn: Okay
[17:34] <superfly> Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman
[17:34] <Maaz> superfly: Alrighty
[17:34] <nlsthzn> octoquad, odd...
[17:34] <mrs_fly> Maaz: I am Hannah Snyman
[17:34] <Maaz> mrs_fly: Alrighty
[17:34] <Kilos> Maaz,  I am Miles Sharpe
[17:34] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto
[17:35] <Kilos> welcome mrs_fly 
[17:35] <kbmonkey> octoquad, tell our bot Maaz who you are via 'maaz, i am <real name>' :)
[17:35] <octoquad> Maaz: I am Bruce Pieterse
[17:35] <Maaz> octoquad: Alrighty
[17:35] <nlsthzn> Maaz, You are Maaz
[17:35] <Maaz> nlsthzn: I already know stuff about You
[17:36] <kbmonkey> Kilos if you please, kind sir
[17:36] <kbmonkey> Maaz topic Review previous meeting minutes
[17:36] <Maaz> Current Topic: Review previous meeting minutes
[17:36] <Kilos> yes?
[17:37] <superfly> Where are the minutes again?
[17:37] <kbmonkey> okay, software freedom day and the Oneiric Jam release parties, how did those turn out?
[17:37] <kbmonkey> the minutes for last meeting are found at: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2011-08-15-17-35-56.html
[17:38] <kbmonkey> I'm sadly reporting that KZN did not have a release party
[17:38] <superfly> kbmonkey: release party? for what?
[17:38] <nlsthzn> Saw the photo's of the Jam held... 
[17:39] <nlsthzn> Small but dedicated group :)
[17:39] <kbmonkey> mmm, I'm quoting the last minutes, perhaps its a typo and just meant to be "Global Jam"
[17:39] <superfly> Ya, tumbleweed blogged about it
[17:39] <nlsthzn> And Maia
[17:39] <kbmonkey> okay strike the release party.
[17:39] <superfly> kbmonkey: I think the release party is about organising it
[17:40] <kbmonkey> was that for 11.10?
[17:40] <Kilos> thats for ocelot right
[17:40] <superfly> yup
[17:41] <octoquad> kbmonkey: has there ever been a release party in KZN?
[17:41] <kbmonkey> not that I know of octoquad
[17:42] <kbmonkey> What else can we add here? sorry I'm a bit behind on the Ubuntu releases and their respective names at the moment
[17:42] <octoquad> you know, durban and probably kzn is slack when it comes to linux events in fact anything global
[17:42] <marcog> Maaz: I am Marco Gallotta
[17:42] <Maaz> marcog: Sure
[17:42] <Kilos> hi marcog 
[17:43]  * marcog was at the global jam it went really well
[17:43] <kbmonkey> that is good to hear marcog :)
[17:43] <octoquad> where can I read more about this global jam?
[17:43] <marcog> we need to gradually grow a couple more people attending
[17:43] <marcog> but the focus was great
[17:43] <kbmonkey> how many KZN residents do we have online tonight?
[17:43] <octoquad> 1
[17:43] <superfly> http://tumbleweed.org.za/2011/09/05/ubuntu-global-jam-oneiric
[17:43] <marcog> octoquad: it happens every 6 months just before release
[17:43] <superfly> nuvolari: *poke*
[17:43] <kbmonkey> thanks superfly 
[17:44] <octoquad> thanks superfly 
[17:44] <Kilos> at the release parties cds are handed out right?
[17:44] <marcog> SFD in CT went well apparently, there were about 10 people
[17:44] <Kilos> is there ever any feedback from people that get copies?
[17:44] <marcog> plans for CT release party are a bit of a mess, due to the ACM and rugby being on that weekend
[17:45] <nlsthzn> Kilos, normally the CD's are a bit late (official) but there are always burnt ones
[17:45] <kbmonkey> Oneiric is set to release October 13
[17:45] <marcog> Kilos: the 11.04 ones went out, i hope all people have them by now. 11.10 will come ~1 week after release
[17:46] <kbmonkey> okay this topic actually joins with the next agenda item too
[17:46] <Kilos> ok. i just want to know if any of the people that actually take copies ever give any feedback
[17:47] <kbmonkey> I had some interest for CD's this week and hope to get them out before I leave
[17:47] <kbmonkey> Maaz topic Ubuntu CD feedback
[17:47] <marcog> Kilos: most end up going to people who use ubuntu already or people we'll never see again
[17:47] <Maaz> Current Topic: Ubuntu CD feedback
[17:47] <Kilos> might help to add a little note on how to get here after installing
[17:47] <superfly> Kilos: exactly what I was thinking
[17:48] <kbmonkey> Kilos that is a great idea. Add to that contact email to send feedback so we can post it on ubuntu-za.org
[17:48] <Kilos> the windows mentality can be a prob if noobs try the install and dont do an update and things arent so good
[17:48] <kbmonkey> Maaz idea include a note on how to submit feedback for Ubuntu CD's, and how to get to the IRC channel for #ubuntu-za
[17:48] <Maaz> Idea recorded: include a note on how to submit feedback for Ubuntu CD's, and how to get to the IRC channel for #ubuntu-za
[17:49]  * nlsthzn was at an installfest, 30 machines installed... with contact info given, response was zero...
[17:49] <kbmonkey> wow nlsthzn, that sounds amazing. I don't think I have ever met more than 8 linux users / pc's at any given time. 
[17:49] <octoquad> how are responses handled at the moment? web interface, e-mail, phone calls?
[17:50] <kbmonkey> currently we work through the Ubuntu-za mailing list octoquad 
[17:50] <Kilos> i think also people should be informed that ubuntu is not a complete install till updated
[17:50] <kbmonkey> not everyone is likely on there, just like irc
[17:51] <nlsthzn> last off topic, kbmonkey was at a uni, in between classes we installed on the laptops those that wanted... 
[17:51] <kbmonkey> any suggestions for other means of feedback?
[17:51] <octoquad> i'm trying to understand this feedback process, tell me more, how do you use this information?
[17:51] <superfly> octoquad: we don't use any information
[17:51] <marcog> kbmonkey: the fb group?
[17:51] <Kilos> octoquad, join the mailing lists
[17:52] <superfly> octoquad: feedback means that people who use the CDs let us know that they have used them, at a guess
[17:52] <marcog> kbmonkey: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ubuntuza/
[17:52] <kbmonkey> usually we just post the feedback and pictures (if any) on ubuntu-za.org octoquad. maia was the person who did most of our feedback reporting in the past
[17:52] <Kilos> and if they are having probs they should know how to get here
[17:53] <kbmonkey> we don't use it for anything other than reporting like news
[17:53] <octoquad> superfly: ok, so wouldn't it be easier to setup a web interface with simple questions and comments about how the installation went?
[17:53] <superfly> octoquad: where does that information go then?
[17:54] <superfly> octoquad: and what use would it be?
[17:54]  * nlsthzn has to get up in a few hours... sorry all, would have loved to stay a bit longer but this +2 time zone has caught up with me... night
[17:54] <octoquad> superfly: it can be a simple counter then? with the source of the cd/
[17:54] <Kilos> night nlsthzn ty for staying
[17:54] <kbmonkey> gn nlsthzn, go well
[17:54] <octoquad> Kilos: i'm on the the ubuntu-za mailing list already
[17:55] <octoquad> joing the facebook group now
[17:55] <Kilos> great octoquad we need to let first time installers know about our lists as well
[17:55] <kbmonkey> well if people don't email, they're less likely to fill in a web form. am I wrong saying this?
[17:56] <octoquad> sure, after they have given the source, then we can provide them with a thank you page and additional resources to get started
[17:56] <octoquad> mailing list, facebook page, wiki, ubuntu-za web site etc
[17:56] <superfly> octoquad: that's a good idea, but I think kbmonkey has a point
[17:57] <kbmonkey> octoquad if you like to draft the start of such a feedback form, like with google docs for draft work. we could then move it onto the ubuntu-za site if it seems viable :)
[17:58] <Kilos> basically i am saying we need to provide basic info on our local contact places
[17:58] <kbmonkey> personally I'm bad at making up such things :p
[17:58] <octoquad> kbmonkey: it all depends on how tech savvy theya re and how much time they want to invest, if they at least give  a source you can have some sort of statistics as to how well the distribution is going
[17:58] <Kilos> the main mailing list takes days before you get an answer and there are just too many mails
[17:59] <octoquad> kbmonkey: I can do with PHP/MySQL/HTML5/CSS3 and i'll put it on my site for feedback?
[17:59] <superfly> octoquad: http://ubuntu-za.org/get-started
[17:59] <kbmonkey> this is an interesting point of talk, we can think this over some time
[17:59] <kbmonkey> that would be great octoquad 
[17:59]  * superfly spits at PHP
[17:59] <superfly> kbmonkey: ^^ we already have a page on the site
[17:59] <octoquad> superfly: I know I know, I'm learning python, really want to get into that full time
[18:00]  * Kilos laughs @ superfly 
[18:00] <kbmonkey> superfly is right, there is a "get started" page, and a get support and get involved.
[18:01] <kbmonkey> kilos do you mean we need to make people aware more of our contact and help methods
[18:01] <octoquad> ok, so can we add the source of the cd which is optional to fill in on that page? How many visits have you had to that page since inception?
[18:01] <Kilos> ye3ah but is that link given with each cd handed out
[18:01] <kbmonkey> I see
[18:01] <octoquad> Kilos: ditto
[18:01] <Kilos> yes kbmonkey 
[18:01] <kbmonkey> no it is not given at the moment Kilos 
[18:02] <Kilos> #ubuntu is murder for a noob
[18:02] <octoquad> who is supplying the cd's?
[18:02] <Kilos> the last lot maiaitoday sorted out
[18:02] <kbmonkey> Ubuntu ships the CD's to country contacts who then spread them to regional contacts
[18:03] <Kilos> sent to different peeps in different centres
[18:03] <kbmonkey> I have a couple left, I gave half to nuvolari and some folks in CT have too IIRC
[18:04] <kbmonkey> okay I will add a note to the CD's with Ubuntu-za's site 
[18:04] <octoquad> it would be awesome if we could have QR stickers with the URL and a link underneath that QR sticker just in case they don't have a smartphone with a QR scanner, but cost is another factor
[18:04] <kbmonkey> Maaz idea Include notes with Ubuntu CD's that point to ubuntu-ZA's website for feedback and support contact
[18:04] <Maaz> Idea recorded: Include notes with Ubuntu CD's that point to ubuntu-ZA's website for feedback and support contact
[18:05] <kbmonkey> okay anything else to add before the next topic? :)
[18:05] <octoquad> um, under events, we have 1 January 1970 at 0:00 for three events on that page. that needs to get fixed
[18:05] <octoquad> Monthly Meeting
[18:05] <Kilos> lol
[18:06] <superfly> octoquad: yeah, I think it's a problem with the RSS library... I need to go fix it again -_-
[18:06] <kbmonkey> Maaz topic Ubuntu-za site spam comments and 1970 events
[18:06] <Maaz> Current Topic: Ubuntu-za site spam comments and 1970 events
[18:07] <kbmonkey> there has been some spam getting through on the site comments, and event dates.
[18:07] <superfly> kbmonkey: I'll have a look at that next week - this week is too hectic
[18:07] <kbmonkey> we know you are a very busy guy superfly :)
[18:07] <kbmonkey> it's not mission critical 
[18:07] <superfly> distracted is more the word... toddlers keep you "busy"
[18:07] <kbmonkey> but if you would like to recruit some peeps here to help..?
[18:08] <octoquad> superfly: is there any way I can help you with this?
[18:08] <superfly> kbmonkey: yes
[18:08] <superfly> octoquad: do you have a user on the site?
[18:08] <superfly> octoquad: it's running Drupal 6
[18:08] <kbmonkey> I recently had a quick jab at recaptcha, it could be an option for guest commenters
[18:09] <superfly> I thought I had recpatcha on there...
[18:09] <superfly> and  I thought guest commenting was turned off
[18:09] <octoquad> superfly: I think so, give me a sec
[18:09] <kbmonkey> guest comments are off, my bad. but seems like some openId spammers are involved. eek that is scary stuff
[18:09] <superfly> maybe turn openid off?
[18:10] <kbmonkey> I use openId to log into ubuntu-za 
[18:10] <octoquad> yeah i'm doing that now as well. but I got this: Fatal error: Out of memory (allocated 45350912) (tried to allocate 1 bytes) in /var/www/www.ubuntu-za.org/sites/all/modules/gcal_events/simplepie.inc on line 13276
[18:11] <octoquad> ok fixed now
[18:13] <kbmonkey> okay I don't want to let the meet run for too long, so octoquad if you and superfly like to have a jab at this in the next few weeks, I think all of Ubuntu-za would appreciate your efforts :)
[18:13] <octoquad> superfly: ok, my username is octoquad
[18:13] <superfly> octoquad: cool
[18:13] <octoquad> kbmonkey: sure no problem
[18:13] <kbmonkey> feel free to cc me too, I'll help out where I can
[18:14] <kbmonkey> okay last topic...
[18:14] <kbmonkey> Maaz topic Meeting chair needs a helping hand
[18:14] <Maaz> Current Topic: Meeting chair needs a helping hand
[18:15] <kbmonkey> I'm going to be without a desktop and a permanent residence during October. 
[18:16] <kbmonkey> Likely I'll find opportunity to chair for October, but just in case a backup chair might be nice if I'm not online at the time
[18:16] <superfly> kbmonkey: if you can't find anyone else, I can do it... I just have a 2 year old distraction so I can't guarantee anything
[18:16] <kbmonkey> I'll address this in the mailing list too, just mentioning it here for the minutes :)
[18:16] <Kilos> lol
[18:17] <Kilos> go Zak
[18:17] <kbmonkey> noted and thanks superfly, maiatoday is also around
[18:18] <kbmonkey> worst case, we just reschedule
[18:18] <octoquad> what is involved in chairing?
[18:18] <kbmonkey> pretty much what I am doing now octoquad 
[18:18] <octoquad> i see...
[18:18] <kbmonkey> I create a meeting on the loco.ubuntu.com site for us (http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/220/detail/)
[18:19] <kbmonkey> and I tell Maaz or resident meeting bot what to do
[18:19] <kbmonkey> and I guess that is all for tonight. before I close off, anything to recap or we missed?
[18:20] <octoquad> ok :)
[18:20] <octoquad> I've joinged the facebook page, could someone join me?
[18:20] <Kilos> nope. thanks kbmonkey 
[18:20] <octoquad> you guys need to get on diaspora as well
[18:20] <kbmonkey> you can see what meeting command maaz has by sending him '/msg maaz help meet'
[18:20] <octoquad> sorry could someone accept me lol
[18:20] <kbmonkey> but someone needs to give maaz permission to listen to you specifically
[18:21] <kbmonkey> okay, thanks everyone for being here. we appreciate it!
[18:22] <kbmonkey> Maaz end meeting
[18:22] <Maaz> Meeting Ended
[18:22] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2011-09-20-17-33-53.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2011-09-20-17-33-53.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2011-09-20-17-33-53.html
[18:22] <Kilos> kbmonkey,  have you applied for that job
[18:22] <kbmonkey> I hope it wasn't toooo boring
[18:22] <kbmonkey> I did Kilos, thanks for asking :)
[18:22] <Kilos> no ty , good meeting
[18:23] <superfly> octoquad: I'm already on Diaspora
[18:23] <superfly> octoquad: superfly@diasp.org
[18:24] <kbmonkey> oh is diaspora open now?
[18:24] <kbmonkey> wow I have been away for a while
[18:25] <kbmonkey> the meeting page, with minutes link, is http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/220/detail/
[18:26] <kbmonkey> glad about some of those ideas
[18:26] <kbmonkey> thanks to Kilos! :D
[18:26] <octoquad> superfly: cool I added you to my ubuntu-za aspect
[18:27] <Kilos> its just you guys are way ahead of most noobs so dont see the probs they come up against
[18:27]  * superfly is off to wet the kid
[18:28] <Kilos> lol
[18:28] <Kilos> enjoy superfly 
[18:28] <kbmonkey> thanks for staying superfly :)
[18:28] <kbmonkey> okay i need to feed the face and continue packing soon
[18:29] <Kilos> ty for chairing kbmonkey 
[18:29] <Kilos> i go sleep more
[18:29] <kbmonkey> ... and write some labels to stick in the Ubuntu CD's ;)
[18:29] <Kilos> night all
[18:29] <Kilos> actually there is lots that noobs need to know
[18:30] <kbmonkey> I signed up for a diaspora invite months ago, not received one yet
[18:30] <kbmonkey> Kilos you have real insight in bridging that gap it seems
[18:30] <kbmonkey> we are too clever for our own good!
[18:30] <Kilos> thats why i say they need to know how to get here
[18:31] <Kilos> most peeps are scared to use the cli or even know what it is
[18:31] <Kilos> so some will need to know how to use synaptic
[18:31] <octoquad> kbmonkey: ask @joindiaspora on twitter. Tell them you still waiting for an invite
[18:32] <kbmonkey> will do octoquad. will reopen twitter account, killed it a while ago. and facebook too.
[18:33] <Kilos> facebook is a data hog
[18:33] <marcog> and google isn't?
[18:33] <marcog> and ms isn't?
[18:33] <Kilos> lol i hardly google 
[18:34] <kbmonkey> google has credit for contributing to FOSS :)
[18:34] <Kilos> and wget saves lots
[18:35] <kbmonkey> that it does!
[18:36] <kbmonkey> i haven't been using lynx as much though
[18:37] <Kilos> yeah me too
[18:37] <Kilos> actually forgot
[18:38] <Kilos> gotta go sleep guys. night all. see ya morrow
[18:44] <octoquad> i use duckduckgo for my searches nowadays...
[18:48] <octoquad> ok i'm out, chat soon...superfly, can we discuss the website here in a private conversation or what would be a convenient channel of communication for you?
[18:55] <kbmonkey> okay thanks for joining octoquad!
[18:56] <kbmonkey> i think superfly has gone to bath the little one
[18:57] <octoquad> oh ok, well, I'll come back tomorrow then
[18:57] <octoquad> cheers kbmonkey 
[18:57] <kbmonkey> email is also good. it keeps better records than irc
[18:57] <octoquad> cia
[18:57] <octoquad> i mean ciao
[18:57] <kbmonkey> cioa!
[18:57] <superfly> octoquad: channel is fine
[18:57] <octoquad> noted
[18:59] <kbmonkey> we need a self aware AI CMS for the site. it shall be called... skynet
[19:04]  * inetpro arrives late as usual
[19:06] <inetpro> nice to see that you guys had another meeting
[19:11] <kbmonkey> better late than never huh
[19:13] <kbmonkey> the minutes are here for your perusal http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/220/detail/ :D
[19:19] <inetpro> kbmonkey: thanks, I quickly scanned through it
[21:35] <Kerbero> Symmetria: 
[21:35] <Kerbero> Err http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/main telepathy-indicator amd64 0.0.6-0ubuntu2
[21:35] <Kerbero>   403  Forbidden
[21:35] <Kerbero> Failed to fetch http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/telepathy-indicator/telepathy-indicator_0.0.6-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb  403  Forbidden
[21:35] <Kerbero> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[21:35] <Kerbero> :(