[08:10] <ev> skaet: sure thing!
[08:35] <CIA-45> ubiquity: evand * r4973 trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
[08:35] <CIA-45> ubiquity: Disable setting the ubiquity/online debconf question for now. We're
[08:35] <CIA-45> ubiquity: not actually using it for anything yet (LP: #855277).
[09:00] <CIA-45> ubiquity: evand * r4974 trunk/ (debian/changelog src/panel/panel.c):
[09:00] <CIA-45> ubiquity: Disable the power indicator as it's causing g-s-d to spawn, which
[09:00] <CIA-45> ubiquity: races against our own spawning of it (LP: #854717).
[09:08] <jibel> ev, I filed 2 bugs against wubi bug 855295 which is a regression and bug 855301
[09:08] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 855295 in Ubuntu Oneiric "Desktop not localized after a fresh installation" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/855295
[09:08] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 855301 in wubi "universe not in sources.list after a fresh installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/855301
[09:09] <jibel> this is with the tar.xz images
[09:19] <CIA-45> ubiquity: evand * r4975 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.7.34
[09:20] <ev> jibel: thanks!
[09:24] <ev> jibel: out of curiosity, why is https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/oneiric-desktop-amd64_wubi-default/ no longer running?
[09:25] <ev> and once it's in a right and proper state, can we have it send failures to ubuntu-installer@lists.ubuntu.com?
[09:25] <jibel> ev, it uses the iso but for some reason --isopath doesn't work naymore
[09:25] <jibel> anymore*
[09:25] <ev> ah, do file a bug for that
[09:25] <ev> though I'd much prefer tests on the disk images at this point
[09:27] <jibel> I looked at it last week and I think we could make the option --isopath accept a tar.xz file, so it would use a disk image. What do you think ?
[09:27] <ev> works for me
[09:28] <jibel> I'll propose a patch and will update the automated test.
[09:28] <jibel> after b2
[09:28] <ev> awesome, thanks!
[09:29] <ev> of course :)
[09:34] <jibel> ev, I'd like to update the testcase for wubi installation from disk images, is there a detailed spec somewhere or is everything in the 'wubi improvement' blueprint ?
[09:37] <ev> jibel: sadly not. I've made some notes here, but it's hardly a design document: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1oVHavsFMdCuqeco1vKI_r82dTCMrDj8HPtIaqBqvTO8/edit?hl=en_US
[09:38] <ev> The redesign spec lives here, but its implementation wont start until next cycle: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1Q8hpGoBLjA5Ijkz6YYXflWfF3mi7luHQnfJuVVPeH3A/edit?authkey=CPepm6cE&hl=en_US&authkey=CPepm6cE
[10:46] <CIA-45> wubi: evand * r227 trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Pre-allocate the swap file in disk image installs.
[11:28] <CIA-45> wubi: evand * r228 trunk/src/wubi/backends/ (common/backend.py win32/backend.py): Set the root and swap disks to the correct sizes in disk image installs.
[11:38] <CIA-45> wubi: evand * r229 trunk/src/wubi/backends/win32/backend.py: Whoops. Helps if you actually run the command.
[14:05] <CIA-45> wubi: evand * r230 trunk/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Add unit tests to wubi.
[14:06] <stgraber> cjwatson: hey, did you see what I posted yesterday regarding a potential conflict between rdnssd and dhclient when doing DHCPv6? (only reproducable in a container, not in a VM)
[14:08] <ev> ^ had that cooking for quite a while, just finally merged
[14:09] <stgraber> yeah! unit tests!
[14:10] <ev> :)
[14:10] <ev> there's just one for the moment
[14:10] <ev> but I hope to quickly grow it
[14:10] <ev> as endlessly running wubi in a vm is not fun
[14:13] <CIA-45> wubi: evand * r231 trunk/tools/check_wine: Don't fuss with file globbing.
[14:13] <CIA-45> wubi: evand * r232 trunk/Makefile: Run the test suite with every build.
[14:19] <CIA-45> wubi: evand * r233 trunk/src/wubi/backends/win32/backend.py: coerce swap size into a string.
[14:34] <cjwatson> stgraber: I did, but not feeling very well at the moment so I kind of failed to understand it
[14:34] <cjwatson> I suspect our resolv.conf handling is basically crap
[14:36] <stgraber> cjwatson: ok. I'll probably poke at it again a bit later today, I have an ipv6 address and a resolv.conf so the only problem is netcfg thinking it doesn't have connectivity.
[15:29] <kyleN_> ere
[15:39] <CIA-45> ubiquity: evand * r4976 trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
[15:39] <CIA-45> ubiquity: Don't show the battery warning when the system is not battery
[15:39] <CIA-45> ubiquity: powered (LP: #848000).
[15:41] <gema> can anyone tell me what this sentence from the installer slides mean: "Ubuntu is all about working for real people", because the translation to spanish is quite funny but I have realised I don't even know what the English means
[15:43] <gema> is it ubuntu as a project, or is it ubuntu the operating system, or is it ubuntu as an abstract concept?
[15:47] <gema> I am also curious on who would be an example of "real people" vs  "unreal people"
[15:49] <ev> gema: christiangiordano (on Canonical) wrote the copy for that
[15:49] <charlie-tca> That is a sarcastic statement that is hard to explain
[15:50] <charlie-tca> I think it refers to Ubuntu as both the project and the operating system
[15:50] <gema> ev: I will talk to him, thanks
[15:50] <gema> charlie-tca: sarcastic how?
[15:51] <charlie-tca> refering to "real people" versus those who are not using Ubuntu
[15:51] <gema> charlie-tca: I think it was an attempt of making a good marketing sentence but I am not sure it conveys any useful idea as is
[15:51] <charlie-tca> It sort of says if you are not using Ubuntu, you are not real people, you are something less than real
[15:52] <gema> charlie-tca: exactly, so it is not quite right :)
[15:53] <charlie-tca> I agree, it is a good attempt at marketing, but not quite right.
[15:53] <cjwatson> I suspect it is "real people" as contrasted with geeks
[15:53] <charlie-tca> I think it wants to say something like "Ubuntu is about people that want to actually get their work done"
[15:54] <cjwatson> which is an offensive distinction that's been part of Ubuntu's marketing since nearly the beginning
[15:54] <cjwatson> see also "Linux for human beings"
[15:54] <gema> yep
[15:55] <cjwatson> the context is "At the heart of Ubuntu’s philosophy is a belief that computing is for everyone. With advanced accessibility tools and options like your preferred color scheme, text size, and language, Ubuntu is all about working for real people.", so it's not just that, but I definitely think rewording would be worthwhile
[15:56] <gema> cjwatson: yes, sorry for not posting the context, I was just struggling to suggest a good translation for the last bit when I realised that I didn't understand it in English
[15:56] <gema> I will speak to christian
[16:01] <charlie-tca> Oh, one of those things that are trying to say Linux is not just for advanced users
[16:05] <cjwatson> yeah, that would be fine, it's the "real people" "human beings" etc. stuff that's (perhaps unintentionally) offensive
[16:14] <charlie-tca> I can see that. I don't think it is intentional, but is it not right, either
[16:14] <ogra_> well, you could also rephrase it as "Ubuntu is not for virtual people"
[16:14] <ogra_> :)
[16:15] <charlie-tca> I think I fought this battle a while back, too. I lost
[16:16] <charlie-tca> It seems to be a difficult concept for marketing to say "Ubuntu is all about ease of use for all users"
[16:20] <gema> I raised a but, following christian's advice: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+bug/855685
[16:20] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 855685 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu "Slideshow: "Ubuntu is all about working for real people"" [Undecided,New]
[16:21] <charlie-tca> I will put a comment on it
[16:21] <gema> ok
[16:22] <gema> ogra_: xDDDD
[16:50] <CIA-45> ubiquity: evand * r4977 trunk/tests/test_upower.py: Add a test for has_battery in upower
[17:02] <CIA-45> ubiquity: evand * r4978 trunk/tests/test_upower.py: Improve has_battery test.
[18:23] <CIA-45> ubiquity: evand * r4978 trunk/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/kde_ui.py):
[18:23] <CIA-45> ubiquity: Move network watch initialization for the KDE frontend to the
[18:23] <CIA-45> ubiquity: correct place (LP: #855763).