| akgraner | shouldn't we remove this line - Something related to Warty Warthog development cycle. | 01:16 |
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| IdleOne | Does seem a little late to thank people for warty | 01:20 |
| IdleOne | but hey better late then never :) | 01:20 |
| Cheesehead | I think he's looking for an appropriate anniversary of the first cycle (Warty) | 01:22 |
| IdleOne | oh, that makes sense | 01:23 |
| valorie | heh | 01:24 |
| Cheesehead | I'm not easily finding the old Warty release calendar to look for such an anniverary, thought | 01:26 |
| Cheesehead | though... | 01:27 |
| * Cheesehead is working in the dim while kids next room go to sleep | 01:27 | |
| valorie | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2004-September/000000.html | 01:27 |
| valorie | might give a clue | 01:27 |
| charlie-tca | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases | 01:30 |
| charlie-tca | has a date | 01:30 |
| charlie-tca | (at least a release date) | 01:30 |
| Cheesehead | I will nominate Sept 17 if some other event has not claimed it. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2004-September/000012.html | 01:31 |
| Cheesehead | First "Thank you" I can find in the mailing list archive | 01:31 |
| charlie-tca | I do remember 5.04 coming out, but 4.10 was before my time | 01:31 |
| Cheesehead | Me too | 01:32 |
| Cheesehead | There. Added the date nomination to the wiki page. | 01:36 |
| IdleOne | so we are going to wait a year for this day? | 01:37 |
| IdleOne | Ubuntu 4.10 (Warty Warthog), released on 20 October 2004 | 01:38 |
| IdleOne | according to wikipedia | 01:38 |
| akgraner | I updated the appreciation day wiki | 01:40 |
| Cheesehead | I recommend against events in October or April. | 01:40 |
| akgraner | +1 on that | 01:40 |
| akgraner | but these are things we need to discuss at the meeting | 01:41 |
| akgraner | so we don't decide in a vacuum | 01:41 |
| akgraner | and get accused of not including everyone | 01:41 |
| akgraner | or not deciding in a public forum | 01:41 |
| akgraner | make sense... | 01:41 |
| charlie-tca | sounds right | 01:42 |
| IdleOne | yup | 01:42 |
| Cheesehead | Agreed | 01:42 |
| IdleOne | IMHO everyday should be Ubuntu Community appreciation day :) | 01:42 |
| akgraner | :-) I do thank someone daily | 01:43 |
| IdleOne | With that, Thank you all :) | 01:43 |
| akgraner | but I think a day where we really focus on it will be a good thing | 01:43 |
| IdleOne | absolutely | 01:43 |
| akgraner | like ada lovelace day | 01:43 |
| akgraner | take a look at that and see if we can modify anything from there to add to this day | 01:44 |
| akgraner | we don't want to copy that day | 01:44 |
| akgraner | as we have that already | 01:44 |
| akgraner | but it's a good way to get some inspiration | 01:44 |
| akgraner | I think we can just pick a cycle to start | 01:45 |
| akgraner | and tell people to thank people for any contribution they have made | 01:45 |
| IdleOne | how about mid point of releases? | 01:45 |
| akgraner | I think once a year would be best but that's just me | 01:45 |
| Cheesehead | Most Ubuntu events are semiannual | 01:45 |
| IdleOne | Jan 15 | 01:46 |
| akgraner | I know and it gets hard | 01:46 |
| akgraner | to maintain | 01:46 |
| akgraner | and as we add more and more Ubuntu Weeks/Days each cycle | 01:46 |
| akgraner | people will begin to say - *Another* Ubuntu Day | 01:46 |
| akgraner | and we don't want that | 01:46 |
| akgraner | we want this to be something people look forward not dread working into their schedules | 01:47 |
| akgraner | while they make agree it's good | 01:47 |
| akgraner | fitting it in twice a year can get overwhelming after a while | 01:47 |
| Cheesehead | Perhaps a different focus than everybody-thanks-everybody? | 01:47 |
| akgraner | especially for those who participate in other appreciation focused days | 01:47 |
| Cheesehead | Perhaps team leaders thank their participants - try to single out the greatest contributions of each? | 01:48 |
| akgraner | I love the idea of an annual Ubuntu Contribution Appreciation Day | 01:48 |
| Cheesehead | More of a leader event, or leader-training event | 01:48 |
| akgraner | you don't want to say greatest | 01:48 |
| Cheesehead | akgraner: Agreed | 01:49 |
| akgraner | that makes other people feel like their contribution is important | 01:49 |
| akgraner | you just want to say thank you | 01:49 |
| akgraner | and everyone finds different reasons for thanking people | 01:49 |
| akgraner | and I think that's good | 01:49 |
| akgraner | and shows the diversity of contribution and the impact of those contribution | 01:50 |
| akgraner | we need inclusion | 01:50 |
| akgraner | and gratitude can include everyone | 01:50 |
| Cheesehead | Well, that takes us to asking: What is the goal of the event? | 01:51 |
| Cheesehead | (Ah, Philosophy is fun!) | 01:51 |
| akgraner | I am sure not every contributor will get thanked personally but we can ask Jane or Mark to do a thank you statement that covers the whole of the community | 01:51 |
| akgraner | the goal - to show people that they are appreciated and noticed | 01:52 |
| akgraner | and that *every* contribution counts | 01:52 |
| akgraner | can't get much easier or simpler than that | 01:52 |
| akgraner | Seriously look at Ada Lovelace day.... | 01:52 |
| akgraner | on that note - I must find my pillow :-) 5am comes early and I have PT in the morning | 01:53 |
| akgraner | Thanks for the discussion - I love it.... | 01:53 |
| akgraner | catch you all laters.... | 01:53 |
| Cheesehead | Good night | 01:54 |
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| valorie | What is the goal of the event? Happy happy joy joy! | 02:27 |
| * bkerensa is uploading a half hour HD video from PuppetConf | 02:42 | |
| bkerensa | :D | 02:42 |
| NRWlion | morning | 07:49 |
| NRWlion | akgraner: are you there? | 07:59 |
| akgraner | NRWlion, morning | 11:48 |
| akgraner | be back in about an hour - PT but I'll ping you when I return | 11:51 |
| === Cheesehead_away is now known as Cheesehead | ||
| akgraner | back | 15:41 |
| akgraner | All the edits for appreciation day are great | 15:51 |
| akgraner | I would caution using Sept 17 as a lot of people will be gearing up for Software freedom days | 15:52 |
| YoBoY | september is already full of ubuntu weeks | 15:56 |
| akgraner | I'll get all that together and add it to the meeting agenda once I close the poll and announce the date | 16:01 |
| akgraner | only 8 people have voted so far...I just set out a reminder | 16:01 |
| YoBoY | ha yes... the poll ^^" | 16:03 |
| pleia2 | all the options are either the middle of the night or during my work day, so it doesn't matter a whole lot, I'll do my best to be there but there are no guarantees | 16:08 |
| pleia2 | (ah california) | 16:08 |
| * Cheesehead just received an e-mail encouraging him to vote in the poll | 16:39 | |
| ashams | akgraner: Hi, do we have some rules/procedures for ppl want to write in "LoCo Leadership Training Handbook" ? | 16:46 |
| akgraner | just use a different color font | 16:47 |
| akgraner | we'll wordsmith it and I'll spend time this weekend formating it etc | 16:47 |
| akgraner | pleia2, I went through the -meeting schedule for that week and listed the time other meetings weren't happening | 16:48 |
| pleia2 | not complaining, just explaining why I'm not bothering with the poll (not ignoring it!) | 16:49 |
| ashams | so, if i wish to write in some part, what should i do? | 16:49 |
| akgraner | Cheesehead, I sent out a reminder and LP doesn't let you pick and choose who from the team to send emails to it's all or nothing or you get locked out for 24 hours | 16:49 |
| akgraner | ashams, just write it and use like a blue or green color font | 16:50 |
| akgraner | pleia2, I didn't think you were - just wanted you to know how I came up with those time :-) | 16:50 |
| ashams | sounds good so far, thanks | 16:50 |
| akgraner | I'm trying to be more open with my communications | 16:50 |
| akgraner | and rationale behind things etc | 16:50 |
| akgraner | ( pleia2 you taught me that - :-D) | 16:51 |
| pleia2 | :) | 16:51 |
| akgraner | ashams, once I get it all formated I'll come up with some guidelines until we can get it into bzr and stuff | 16:51 |
| akgraner | until them just add away | 16:52 |
| ashams | akgraner: yes, bzr will help a lot | 16:52 |
| akgraner | yep - I don't know how to do that part but I told Darkwing1uck I'd get it formatted and he said he would get it into bzr | 16:54 |
| akgraner | but any of you who know how to do that please pitch in and help him after the weekend | 16:54 |
| Cheesehead | akgraner: Not complaining about the poll e-mail. Just letting you know somebody received it. It didn't vanish into /dev/null like important e-mails sometimes do... | 17:07 |
| akgraner | hehe - I think my hubby sends all my emails to him to dev/null | 17:08 |
| akgraner | he swears I don't know what you are talking about | 17:08 |
| akgraner | hey gotta run for a few - bbiab | 17:09 |
| akgraner | :-) | 17:09 |
| akgraner | away | 17:09 |
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| Cheesehead | Added to chapter 6 - communications | 18:57 |
| Cheesehead | Reminder: Please take a look at the breakdown list of indivivdual skills, and add to it. Duplicates welcome. https://docs.google.com/document/d/13VOmTgEqCzIW8oITV2d5fIRD3xsiKRVMd39OUlpx6xQ/edit?hl=en_US | 19:00 |
| ashams | valorie: Thanx for enhancing UCADay page :) | 19:59 |
| bkerensa | Indeed | 20:15 |
| head_victim | akgraner: sorry for not voting in the poll but I'm a shiftworker so my roster sometimes changes. I'm just waiting to see when it is and when my roster lines up and fingers crossed it all ends up well :) | 20:49 |
| akgraner | head_victim, no worries - we'll have logs and minutes available for those who can't make it | 20:50 |
| charlie-tca | Sorry, my time seems very limited these days trying to get oneiric stuff done. | 20:52 |
| akgraner | charlie-tca, no worries - :-) feedback is just as important | 20:52 |
| akgraner | you have a lot on your plate :-) so take care of those commitments then just help when and where you can - we understand | 20:53 |
| akgraner | charlie-tca, no need to apologize you do a lot and just being willing to help and be part of the team is awesome in my book | 20:54 |
| head_victim | charlie-tca: Too busy leading hey ;) | 20:54 |
| akgraner | that's why we are a team - we have each others back and when necessary we'll carry one another...:-) | 20:54 |
| akgraner | charlie-tca, I need to test the new UF PPA | 20:55 |
| akgraner | it's on my list | 20:55 |
| charlie-tca | me too | 20:55 |
| charlie-tca | I have to hold an election too, next month for a new Xubuntu Lead | 20:55 |
| charlie-tca | Also having issues with a a11y ppa for vinux | 20:56 |
| akgraner | whoa that's a lot :-) | 20:58 |
| akgraner | but I am sure you're kicking butt and taking names | 20:58 |
| charlie-tca | Just keep working on it... :) | 20:59 |
| akgraner | charlie-tca, will you be at UDS this time | 21:01 |
| charlie-tca | yes, I will be there | 21:02 |
| charlie-tca | I got lucky in the draw again | 21:02 |
| akgraner | awesome can't wait to see you there | 21:06 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, looking forward to it. It really is awesome to be able to attend! | 21:08 |
| akgraner | that it is | 21:08 |
| === Darkwing1uck is now known as DarkwingDuck | ||
| DarkwingDuck | Hey everyone. I'm out of a computer till next week. | 21:43 |
| akgraner | DarkwingDuck, :-( ok | 22:39 |
| akgraner | we'll hold the fort down - but you have my number right | 22:39 |
| pleia2 | DarkwingDuck: er, will you still be able to make your User Days session on Saturday? | 22:57 |
| pleia2 | maco filled in last time for you, I don't have an emergency fill-in this time :\ | 22:57 |
| pleia2 | so I need to know soon | 22:57 |
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