[01:16] shouldn't we remove this line - Something related to Warty Warthog development cycle. [01:20] Does seem a little late to thank people for warty [01:20] but hey better late then never :) [01:22] I think he's looking for an appropriate anniversary of the first cycle (Warty) [01:23] oh, that makes sense [01:24] heh [01:26] I'm not easily finding the old Warty release calendar to look for such an anniverary, thought [01:27] though... [01:27] * Cheesehead is working in the dim while kids next room go to sleep [01:27] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2004-September/000000.html [01:27] might give a clue [01:30] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases [01:30] has a date [01:30] (at least a release date) [01:31] I will nominate Sept 17 if some other event has not claimed it. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2004-September/000012.html [01:31] First "Thank you" I can find in the mailing list archive [01:31] I do remember 5.04 coming out, but 4.10 was before my time [01:32] Me too [01:36] There. Added the date nomination to the wiki page. [01:37] so we are going to wait a year for this day? [01:38] Ubuntu 4.10 (Warty Warthog), released on 20 October 2004 [01:38] according to wikipedia [01:40] I updated the appreciation day wiki [01:40] I recommend against events in October or April. [01:40] +1 on that [01:41] but these are things we need to discuss at the meeting [01:41] so we don't decide in a vacuum [01:41] and get accused of not including everyone [01:41] or not deciding in a public forum [01:41] make sense... [01:42] sounds right [01:42] yup [01:42] Agreed [01:42] IMHO everyday should be Ubuntu Community appreciation day :) [01:43] :-) I do thank someone daily [01:43] With that, Thank you all :) [01:43] but I think a day where we really focus on it will be a good thing [01:43] absolutely [01:43] like ada lovelace day [01:44] take a look at that and see if we can modify anything from there to add to this day [01:44] we don't want to copy that day [01:44] as we have that already [01:44] but it's a good way to get some inspiration [01:45] I think we can just pick a cycle to start [01:45] and tell people to thank people for any contribution they have made [01:45] how about mid point of releases? [01:45] I think once a year would be best but that's just me [01:45] Most Ubuntu events are semiannual [01:46] Jan 15 [01:46] I know and it gets hard [01:46] to maintain [01:46] and as we add more and more Ubuntu Weeks/Days each cycle [01:46] people will begin to say - *Another* Ubuntu Day [01:46] and we don't want that [01:47] we want this to be something people look forward not dread working into their schedules [01:47] while they make agree it's good [01:47] fitting it in twice a year can get overwhelming after a while [01:47] Perhaps a different focus than everybody-thanks-everybody? [01:47] especially for those who participate in other appreciation focused days [01:48] Perhaps team leaders thank their participants - try to single out the greatest contributions of each? [01:48] I love the idea of an annual Ubuntu Contribution Appreciation Day [01:48] More of a leader event, or leader-training event [01:48] you don't want to say greatest [01:49] akgraner: Agreed [01:49] that makes other people feel like their contribution is important [01:49] you just want to say thank you [01:49] and everyone finds different reasons for thanking people [01:49] and I think that's good [01:50] and shows the diversity of contribution and the impact of those contribution [01:50] we need inclusion [01:50] and gratitude can include everyone [01:51] Well, that takes us to asking: What is the goal of the event? [01:51] (Ah, Philosophy is fun!) [01:51] I am sure not every contributor will get thanked personally but we can ask Jane or Mark to do a thank you statement that covers the whole of the community [01:52] the goal - to show people that they are appreciated and noticed [01:52] and that *every* contribution counts [01:52] can't get much easier or simpler than that [01:52] Seriously look at Ada Lovelace day.... [01:53] on that note - I must find my pillow :-) 5am comes early and I have PT in the morning [01:53] Thanks for the discussion - I love it.... [01:53] catch you all laters.... [01:54] Good night === Cheesehead is now known as Cheesehead_away [02:27] What is the goal of the event? Happy happy joy joy! [02:42] * bkerensa is uploading a half hour HD video from PuppetConf [02:42] :D [07:49] morning [07:59] akgraner: are you there? [11:48] NRWlion, morning [11:51] be back in about an hour - PT but I'll ping you when I return === Cheesehead_away is now known as Cheesehead [15:41] back [15:51] All the edits for appreciation day are great [15:52] I would caution using Sept 17 as a lot of people will be gearing up for Software freedom days [15:56] september is already full of ubuntu weeks [16:01] I'll get all that together and add it to the meeting agenda once I close the poll and announce the date [16:01] only 8 people have voted so far...I just set out a reminder [16:03] ha yes... the poll ^^" [16:08] all the options are either the middle of the night or during my work day, so it doesn't matter a whole lot, I'll do my best to be there but there are no guarantees [16:08] (ah california) [16:39] * Cheesehead just received an e-mail encouraging him to vote in the poll [16:46] akgraner: Hi, do we have some rules/procedures for ppl want to write in "LoCo Leadership Training Handbook" ? [16:47] just use a different color font [16:47] we'll wordsmith it and I'll spend time this weekend formating it etc [16:48] pleia2, I went through the -meeting schedule for that week and listed the time other meetings weren't happening [16:49] not complaining, just explaining why I'm not bothering with the poll (not ignoring it!) [16:49] so, if i wish to write in some part, what should i do? [16:49] Cheesehead, I sent out a reminder and LP doesn't let you pick and choose who from the team to send emails to it's all or nothing or you get locked out for 24 hours [16:50] ashams, just write it and use like a blue or green color font [16:50] pleia2, I didn't think you were - just wanted you to know how I came up with those time :-) [16:50] sounds good so far, thanks [16:50] I'm trying to be more open with my communications [16:50] and rationale behind things etc [16:51] ( pleia2 you taught me that - :-D) [16:51] :) [16:51] ashams, once I get it all formated I'll come up with some guidelines until we can get it into bzr and stuff [16:52] until them just add away [16:52] akgraner: yes, bzr will help a lot [16:54] yep - I don't know how to do that part but I told Darkwing1uck I'd get it formatted and he said he would get it into bzr [16:54] but any of you who know how to do that please pitch in and help him after the weekend [17:07] akgraner: Not complaining about the poll e-mail. Just letting you know somebody received it. It didn't vanish into /dev/null like important e-mails sometimes do... [17:08] hehe - I think my hubby sends all my emails to him to dev/null [17:08] he swears I don't know what you are talking about [17:09] hey gotta run for a few - bbiab [17:09] :-) [17:09] away === ashams_ is now known as ashams [18:57] Added to chapter 6 - communications [19:00] Reminder: Please take a look at the breakdown list of indivivdual skills, and add to it. Duplicates welcome. https://docs.google.com/document/d/13VOmTgEqCzIW8oITV2d5fIRD3xsiKRVMd39OUlpx6xQ/edit?hl=en_US [19:59] valorie: Thanx for enhancing UCADay page :) [20:15] Indeed [20:49] akgraner: sorry for not voting in the poll but I'm a shiftworker so my roster sometimes changes. I'm just waiting to see when it is and when my roster lines up and fingers crossed it all ends up well :) [20:50] head_victim, no worries - we'll have logs and minutes available for those who can't make it [20:52] Sorry, my time seems very limited these days trying to get oneiric stuff done. [20:52] charlie-tca, no worries - :-) feedback is just as important [20:53] you have a lot on your plate :-) so take care of those commitments then just help when and where you can - we understand [20:54] charlie-tca, no need to apologize you do a lot and just being willing to help and be part of the team is awesome in my book [20:54] charlie-tca: Too busy leading hey ;) [20:54] that's why we are a team - we have each others back and when necessary we'll carry one another...:-) [20:55] charlie-tca, I need to test the new UF PPA [20:55] it's on my list [20:55] me too [20:55] I have to hold an election too, next month for a new Xubuntu Lead [20:56] Also having issues with a a11y ppa for vinux [20:58] whoa that's a lot :-) [20:58] but I am sure you're kicking butt and taking names [20:59] Just keep working on it... :) [21:01] charlie-tca, will you be at UDS this time [21:02] yes, I will be there [21:02] I got lucky in the draw again [21:06] awesome can't wait to see you there [21:08] Yeah, looking forward to it. It really is awesome to be able to attend! [21:08] that it is === Darkwing1uck is now known as DarkwingDuck [21:43] Hey everyone. I'm out of a computer till next week. [22:39] DarkwingDuck, :-( ok [22:39] we'll hold the fort down - but you have my number right [22:57] DarkwingDuck: er, will you still be able to make your User Days session on Saturday? [22:57] maco filled in last time for you, I don't have an emergency fill-in this time :\ [22:57] so I need to know soon