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[15:03] <cjwatson> well, mumble has decided it hates me, but I guess it's meeting time anyway
[15:07] <slangasek> #startmeeting
[15:07] <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Sep 21 15:07:02 2011 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
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[15:07]  * stgraber waves
[15:07] <slangasek> indeed it is!
[15:07]  * slangasek waves
[15:07] <mvo> hi
[15:07] <barry> howdy
[15:08] <ev> hi
[15:08] <slangasek> bdmurray and jhunt are off today; one to a conference, one on holiday
[15:08] <slangasek> [TOPIC] lightning round
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[15:08] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e cjwatson barry doko stgraber jhunt mvo ev bdmurray slangasek)
[15:08] <slangasek> barry jhunt mvo slangasek ev stgraber bdmurray cjwatson doko
[15:08] <barry> somehow, i knew i'd win today! :)
[15:08] <barry> much work done on ppa:pythoneers/lts to provide python 2.7 (and other lp dependencies) in a ppa.  this is up and running with hand-off to the launchpad folks (emailed launchpad-dev).  bug 847514.  debian bug 622279 (py27 blockers).  extensive c api subvertpy code review (was a blocker).  python bug 13021 (reference leak).  gtimelog hacking (merge pitti branch, keypress eating diagnostics, etc.).  developer experience cop.  todo: finish
[15:08] <barry> up gtimelog 0.7, release and upload.  continue with oneiric ftbfs and debian py27 blockers.  done.
[15:08] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 847514 in python-debian (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Convert Xubuntu CD to dh_python2" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/847514
[15:08] <ubottu> Debian bug 622279 in release.debian.org "transition: python-defaults (switching default: 2.6 -> 2.7)" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/622279
[15:08] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 13021 in Ubuntu "Allow console logins in a more intuitive way?" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/13021
[15:09] <mvo> jhunt is on vac, right? so its my turn
[15:09] <slangasek> mvo: yep
[15:09] <mvo> executive summary: lots of bugfixing work
[15:09] <mvo> software-center: debug/fix multiarch native/foreign hidding (#830508), discuss/prototype unity friendly review stats (lp:~mvo/software-center/review-stats-as-dbm-for-unity-with-best-regards), work with davmor2 on license-key tesitng, debug/fix crash on xubuntu (#854087), debug/fix software-center a-x-i db rebuild bug (#798632), fix db reopen bug when new stuff is added to the database (like via s-c-agent), do not log sensitive oauth token st
[15:09] <mvo> uff to the console, do add offer NoDisplay=true as add-to-launcher (#844837), fix UI issue when fetching for more reviews (#848480), fix installed view show/hide nonapps, debug/workaround silly gtk3 width-for-height management bug with gtk.Alignment, retire the gtk2 code into lp:~mvo/software-center/retire-gtk2, branch merges
[15:09] <mvo> apt: debug/fix broken private-ppa adding on 401 on https, debug/fix broken Translations-$lang fetching fallback, cherry pick fixes from the debian-sid branch
[15:09] <mvo> command-not-found: review/merge https://code.launchpad.net/~zkrynicki/command-not-found/fix-839609/+merge/75440
[15:09] <mvo> beta2: upgrade testing, ran head-first into cups hang #854490 and add some debug info
[15:09] <mvo> debug/fix gnome-codec-install multiarch issue (#851481)
[15:09] <mvo> aptdaemon: cherry-pick/review/upload new bzr snapshot to fix two high profile crashers (#812023, #846044)
[15:09] <mvo> misc: fixes in unattended-upgrades, apt-ddtp, apt-clone, fix some FTBFS
[15:10] <mvo> EOF
[15:10] <slangasek> mvo: did you see the recent report that trying to install a foreign-arch deb via s-c doesn't work?
[15:10] <slangasek> bug #854839
[15:10] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 854839 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Skype i386 fails to install on Oneiric 64bit" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/854839
[15:10] <mvo> slangasek: meh, let me look
[15:11] <mvo> slangasek: aha, I think this is actually a bug in python-apts debfile handling
[15:11] <mvo> that should be trivial (famous last words ;)
[15:11] <mvo> its a downloaded deb
[15:11] <slangasek> yep
[15:12] <slangasek> are upgrade tests working better now with the cups change?
[15:12] <mvo> yes, one success around lunchtime so far
[15:13] <mvo> then I got sidetracked by unity and the need to share some review data with them
[15:13] <slangasek> great (the success, not the sidetracking) :)
[15:13] <mvo> but I will run the next one now
[15:14] <slangasek> cool
[15:14] <slangasek> my go
[15:14] <mvo> honestly I think this task should be taken over by QA officially, jibel is doing a better job then me anyway
[15:14] <slangasek> sure, it does fit better in QA... are the two of you duplicating effort right now?
[15:15] <mvo> I would not call it duplication, but we do both test upgrades
[15:15]  * slangasek nods
[15:15] <mvo> probably using slightly different scenarios etc
[15:18] <slangasek> enabled flicker-free boot for lightdm (bug #849954); if you're still seeing boot-time flickering, please file bugs; found a race condition in shutdown when more than one dm is installed (like lightdm + gdm) that causes the spinning-dots-on-text issue, fixes staged for post-beta, but I also just saw the bug again here with the fixed packages so there's another race I haven't found; traipsing through plymouth code to try to find the bug 
[15:18] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 849954 in plymouth (Ubuntu Oneiric) "FFe: enable flicker-free boot with lightdm" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/849954
[15:18] <slangasek> ... loop that's still causing people to see segfaults, can't spot the bug and can't reproduce it, so if anybody else can and wants to be remote hands, let me know
[15:18] <mvo> flicker free++
[15:19] <stgraber> slangasek: I still saw flickering at boot time when plymouth started but I'm on dual-head so it's very likely the problem
[15:20] <barry> slangasek: boot-time flickering != login-time flickering, right?
[15:20] <slangasek> updates done for ca-certificates to fix a regression in openssl's ability to verify certificates (bug #854927), then spent yesterday scrambling to fix ca-certificates-java when this provoked deletion of libnss3 on the systems of users having -java installed (bug #855171, bug #855246)
[15:20] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 854927 in openssl (Ubuntu Oneiric) "c_rehash creating bogus links to ca-certificates.crt" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/854927
[15:20] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 855171 in ca-certificates-java (Ubuntu) "libnss3.so went missing after upgrade" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/855171
[15:20] <stgraber> slangasek: grub only starts on my laptop, then plymouth starts on both displays, the transition between the two causes a black screen on my laptop's monitor
[15:20] <slangasek> done
[15:20] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 855246 in ca-certificates-java (Ubuntu Oneiric) "ca-certificates 20110502+nmu1ubuntu3 (and ca-certificates-java 20110912ubuntu2): Exception in thread "main" java.security.ProviderException: Could not initialize NSS" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/855246
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[15:21] <slangasek> stgraber: right, single->dual head might always give a flicker... but can you test with the external monitor disconnected?
[15:21] <stgraber> slangasek: yep, will test that
[15:21] <slangasek> fwiw, *I'm* still getting a flicker there... dunno what it is
[15:21] <ev> - Fixed bug 838068 (APs going away when trying to query their properties)
[15:21] <ev> - Fixed the installer panel and ported to GTK3
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[15:21] <ev> - Fixed setting the desktop wallpaper by writing a small C helper.
[15:21] <ev> - ISO and Wubi testing
[15:21] <ev> - Fixed bug 852054 (advanced partitioning link doesn't work)
[15:21] <ev> - Fixed bug 837406 (installer window sizing issue)
[15:21] <ev> - Fixed bug 848938 (online/offline handling in ubiquity)
[15:21] <ev> - Expenses for Plumbers and travel for UDS.
[15:21] <ev> - Fixed ubiquity tests and uploaded a new version.
[15:21] <ev> - Further discussion with Gema (QA) on installer bugs.
[15:21] <ev> - Fixed a bug in lupin that prevented a grub configuration being generated for
[15:21] <ev>   wubi disk images.
[15:21] <ev> - Fixed biosdevname and libpci for Dell and OEM services.
[15:21] <ev> - Taught Wubi and lupin to create swap space for disk image installs.
[15:21] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 838068 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) "ubiquity crashed with DBusException in call_blocking(): org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "Get" with signature "ss" on interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" doesn't exist" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/838068
[15:21] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 852054 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) "During installation process: Clicking "advanced partitioning tool" won't open partitioning tool" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852054
[15:21] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 837406 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) "installer dialogue buttons fall off bottom of the screen on netbooks with small displays" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/837406
[15:21] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 848938 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) ""Download updates" unavailable after connecting to WiFi" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/848938
[15:22] <ev> did that get cuff off somewhere?
[15:22] <ev> should end with (done)
[15:22] <stgraber> ev: last line was "- Taught Wubi and lupin..."
[15:23] <ev>  - Finally merged my Wubi test branch.
[15:23] <ev>  - Fixed bug 848000 (Don't show the battery warning on desktops).
[15:23] <ev> (done)
[15:23] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 848000 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Shouldn't show "should be plugged in" when on a desktop" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/848000
[15:24]  * slangasek plugs a battery in to his desktop
[15:24] <stgraber> - IPv6 testing
[15:24] <stgraber>  - Switched from generating kvm instances to using LXC (so we can test on ARM)
[15:24] <stgraber>  - Managed to get debian-installer running in a container
[15:24] <stgraber>  - Implemented a basic test suite for netcfg
[15:24] <stgraber>  - Now trying to figure out why one of the tests doesn't pass and will then have that code running daily
[15:24] <stgraber>  - Next up is NM automated testing which should be a lot easier than netcfg
[15:24] <stgraber> - Worked around bug 838809 by restoring pre-oneiric behaviour of not starting open-iscsi when root is on iscsi and filed bug 850960 for the actual problem
[15:24] <stgraber> - Uploaded new friendly-recovery fixing quite a bunch of bugs
[15:24] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 838809 in open-iscsi (Ubuntu Oneiric) "authenticated and unauthenicated iscsi clients fails to complete boot" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/838809
[15:24] <stgraber> - Quite a few more pre-beta freeze uploads (last minute seed change for Edubuntu and some bugfixes/translations update)
[15:25] <stgraber> - Starting poking at the ISO tracker code, trying to port it to Drupal 7 and get LP authentication working (while waiting for IPv6 test results)
[15:25] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 850960 in open-iscsi (Ubuntu) "iscsid tries to reconnect existing session at startup, failing to do so and hanging the system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/850960
[15:25] <stgraber> - TODO
[15:25] <stgraber>  - Edubuntu ISO testing (haven't had a beta2 candidate yet, hopefully won't need much fixing)
[15:25] <stgraber>  - Finish the automated IPv6 testing and push the code somewhere
[15:25] <stgraber>  - Get WebLive up and running for Oneiric (both full sessions from edubuntu.org and single app export in software-center)
[15:25] <stgraber>  - Still need to spend more time trying to get TPM working in a PPA
[15:25] <stgraber> (done)
[15:27] <slangasek> so no ISO tracker migration to django this cycle? :)
[15:27] <stgraber> I think everyone agrees that we shouldn't mess too much with the tracker for an LTS :)
[15:28] <slangasek> cjohnston:
[15:28] <slangasek> oops
[15:28] <stgraber> but if someone wants to rewrite it, we have quite a few nice specs that we worked on at the past 6 or so UDSes :)
[15:28] <slangasek> ah, we've lost cjwatson
[15:28] <slangasek> doko:
[15:28] <ev> he just sent me a text
[15:28] <ev> he's having ADSL problems
[15:28] <slangasek> ev: doh - thanks
[15:28] <doko> - ~110 uploads to fix ftbfs (still didn't catch cjwatson's karma ;)
[15:28] <doko> - sponsored ~20 ftbfs uploads
[15:28] <doko> - package removals for ftbfs
[15:28] <doko> - arm test rebuild did finish
[15:28] <doko> - binutils upload to fix regression with --as-needed/-flto and --fopenmp/-flto
[15:29] <ev> he's not sure if he'll be back for the meeting, but he has an engineer booked for the morn'
[15:30] <doko> (done)
[15:31] <slangasek> doko: I saw skaet asking for more info about the binutils upload; did you two come to an agreement about getting this in?
[15:32] <doko> slangasek, I did reply, but never got an answer
[15:32] <slangasek> ok
[15:33] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Bugs
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[15:33] <slangasek> since Brian couldn't be here, he asked me to cover a few things with bugs
[15:34] <slangasek> we have another new report up tracking stale bugs that are marked "in progress":
[15:34] <slangasek> [LINK] http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/foundations-bugs/canonical-foundations-old-in-progress-bug-tasks.html
[15:34] <slangasek> defined as a bug that's been in progress more than a month
[15:34] <slangasek> cjwatson: hi there - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/foundations-bugs/canonical-foundations-old-in-progress-bug-tasks.html
[15:35] <slangasek> cjwatson: you've just missed the lightning round; do you want to report now?
[15:36] <slangasek> maybe not :)
[15:36] <slangasek> so, in-progress bugs - I'd like us to take just a couple minutes to go through these quickly and see where they are
[15:37] <cjwatson> hi
[15:37] <cjwatson> sorry, was waiting for feedback in ... #ubuntu-release ;-)
[15:37] <slangasek> and see if they should be unassigned or set back to 'triaged' instead
[15:37] <cjwatson> some more FTBFS work
[15:37] <cjwatson> grub2: fixed missing licence declaration that broke hwmatch (850202)
[15:37] <cjwatson> curl/xmlrpc-c: helped out server team with adding udebs (831496)
[15:37] <cjwatson> os-prober: belatedly merged Surbhi's btrfs work (764893)
[15:37] <cjwatson> installer: translation updates; fixed some IPv6 bugs spotted by Stéphane; fixed failure to set up multiarch correctly (853738); fixed ubiquity test failures
[15:37] <cjwatson> lsb: fixed amd64 symlink bug spotted by Till (638450)
[15:37] <cjwatson> live-build: backported ext4 support for ARM team (803547)
[15:37] <cjwatson> xdeb: fixing up to work properly on oneiric; fixing various bugs that have crept in; merges; made multiarch code only trigger if multiarch is configured appropriately; trying to fix dependency resolver
[15:37] <cjwatson> ubuntu-archive-tools: sprucing up iso.qa posting support with the aim of adding auto-posting to cdimage
[15:37] <cjwatson> looking at creating InRelease files to reduce archive skew problems - apparently some security concerns though
[15:37] <cjwatson> switched to unity-2d; rather fewer desktop slowness problems now
[15:37] <cjwatson> having intermittent ADSL router problems; engineer visit scheduled for tomorrow morning
[15:37] <cjwatson> coming down with something; please only expect minimal supply of brainpower
[15:37] <cjwatson> ..
[15:38] <slangasek> cjwatson: thanks
[15:39] <slangasek> bug #341876 - ev, mpt assigned this to you and marked it in progress, is that accurate?
[15:39] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 341876 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[Feature Request] Setup WiFi" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/341876
[15:39] <ev> slangasek: it's done, fixing :)
[15:39] <slangasek> ok :)
[15:39] <cjwatson> I've set the three I know about back to Triaged
[15:40] <slangasek> bug #434173 - mvo?
[15:40] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 434173 in update-manager (Ubuntu Karmic) "[karmic] Regression from 9.04 in getting fully translated Ubuntu installation" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/434173
[15:40] <cjwatson> which is regrettably probably more accurate
[15:40] <slangasek> probably not in progress for karmic anymore, at least...
[15:40] <mvo> slangasek: I need to re-read this one
[15:40] <cjwatson> although bug 441941 is arguably generally done and should have individual failures filed as separate bugs, but it's a swamp of a bug ...
[15:40] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 441941 in grub2 (Ubuntu Maverick) "grub fails after running Windows" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/441941
[15:41] <slangasek> mvo: ok, take your time :)
[15:42] <slangasek> and the last one then is for jhunt; will check in with him later
[15:42] <slangasek> other bugs on bdmurray's radar:
[15:42] <slangasek> bug #839584
[15:42] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 839584 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "package ubuntu-desktop 1.242 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: dependency problems with unity-2d" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/839584
[15:42] <mvo> slangasek: I think i need to embed a copy of the check-language-support script
[15:42]  * mvo puts it on his todo
[15:43] <slangasek> mvo: well, the immediate question is, is it really "in progress" or should we mark it as something more realistic like "triaged"
[15:44] <mvo> bug #839584 is a bit mysterious, I suspect its a failure in the apt ordering code actually which is pretty nasty
[15:44] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 839584 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "package ubuntu-desktop 1.242 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: dependency problems with unity-2d" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/839584
[15:44] <slangasek> mvo: the log in bug #839584 confuses me... it seems to be trying to configure ubuntu-desktop before installing the dependencies, which isn't supposed to happen
[15:44] <slangasek> right
[15:44] <mvo> exactly
[15:44] <slangasek> should we triage that over to apt?
[15:44] <mvo> we have in debian-experimental the result of SoC work in the ordering code that adds a extra verification step to ensure this does not happen
[15:45] <mvo> but there is regression risk here, I would not want to merge this just now (even though the new code had a good bunch of runs through various upgrade scenarios)
[15:45] <slangasek> right
[15:45] <slangasek> let's not rip out the package manager's guts post-beta ;)
[15:46] <mvo> exactly
[15:46] <mvo> I reassign to apt
[15:46] <slangasek> thanks
[15:46] <mvo> I will also try to reprodue with apt-clone
[15:46] <slangasek> next, bug #852128
[15:46] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 852128 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Poor performance while "Calculating changes"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/852128
[15:47] <slangasek> mvo gets all the fun bugs
[15:47] <mvo> meh
[15:47] <slangasek> this one looks like it might be pretty easy to fix for oneiric, though...
[15:47] <slangasek> anyone *other* than mvo interested in having a look at it?
[15:48] <mvo> that is (again) a apt issue I think
[15:49] <slangasek> but an apt bug that doesn't require fiddling with resolver code.  Not the highest priority bug either, but if someone wants to take a swing at it, feel free
[15:49] <mvo> hm, or maybe not, I have look,
[15:50] <slangasek> last one: bug #839662
[15:50] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 839662 in man-db (Ubuntu) "package man-db 2.6.0.2-2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/839662
[15:50] <mvo> a non-apt bug, wooooh
[15:50] <slangasek> yes, merely a debconf bug :)
[15:50] <slangasek> cjwatson: is this error familiar?
[15:50] <slangasek>  debconf: DbDriver "config": rename failed: Is a directory
[15:50] <cjwatson> huh, that's a new one on me
[15:52] <cjwatson> I suspect fs corruption, but have posted asking for more details
[15:52] <slangasek> ok
[15:52] <slangasek> thanks
[15:52] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
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[15:52] <slangasek> anything else?
[15:53] <slangasek> is anyone here seeing crash reports from plymouthd?
[15:53] <slangasek> we get plenty of duplicate reports, but I have no idea what the common element is :/
[15:54] <slangasek> ev, cjwatson: rickspencer3 was saying yesterday that he was having trouble installing from USB with the daily; was this a known issue (to you)?
[15:54] <ev> nope
[15:55] <ev> bug reports welcome
[15:55]  * slangasek nods
[15:55] <slangasek> I'll circle around
[15:55] <ev> thanks
[15:56] <slangasek> #endmeeting
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[15:56] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Sep 21 15:56:16 2011 UTC.
[15:56] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-09-21-15.07.moin.txt
[15:56] <slangasek> that's a wrap then
[15:56] <slangasek> thanks, guys!
[15:56] <ev> thanks!
[15:56] <cjwatson> there's an outstanding bug about grub still being installed to the wrong place sometimes
[15:56] <barry> thanks!
[15:56] <doko> thanks
[15:56] <stgraber> thanks!
[15:56] <mvo> thanks
[15:58] <slangasek> cjwatson: I had the impression that things were failing for him much earlier... but yeah, more info needed
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[17:03] <Ursinha> #startmeeting Ubuntu QA Team
[17:03] <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Sep 21 17:03:18 2011 UTC.  The chair is Ursinha. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
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[17:03] <Ursinha> apologies in advance as it's the first time I chair this meeting :)
[17:03] <Ursinha> roll call!
[17:03] <Ursinha> who's here?
[17:03] <Ursinha> o/
[17:04] <charlie-tca> o/
[17:04] <Ursinha> hggdh, hello :)
[17:04] <Ursinha> who else?
[17:04] <gema> o/
[17:05] <Ursinha> :)
[17:05] <Ursinha> [TOPIC] Previous Actions
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[17:05] <Ursinha> the only one was about Ursinha chairing this week
[17:05] <Ursinha> :)
[17:05] <Ursinha> moving on
[17:05] <Ursinha>  [TOPIC] Community Efforts/Testing
[17:05] <Ursinha> [TOPIC] Community Efforts/Testing
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[17:05] <Ursinha> anyone has updates on community efforts?
[17:05] <jibel> Hi o/
[17:06] <Ursinha> hi jibel :)
[17:06] <nuclearbob> howdy /o
[17:06] <Ursinha> and nuclearbob
[17:06] <Ursinha> any updates on this one?
[17:06] <jibel> I do
[17:06] <Ursinha> go ahead
[17:06] <jibel> this week we are testing Oneiric Beta 2
[17:07] <jibel> Good candidates have been posted only few hours ago so coverage is quite low (Image Coverage       : 27.63% (21/76))
[17:07] <jibel> There is still 1 day of testing before the release of Beta 2, so please go to http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/notcompleted
[17:08] <jibel> download an image and test it.
[17:08] <jibel> Bug status on Beta 2 testing:
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[17:08] <jibel>  * Critical  	: 2 (2 closed)
[17:08] <jibel>  * High      	: 16 (2 closed)
[17:08] <jibel>  * Medium    	: 10
[17:08] <jibel>  * Low       	: 1 (1 closed)
[17:08] <jibel>  * Wishlist  	: 1
[17:08] <jibel>  * Undecided 	: 10 (1 closed)
[17:09] <jibel> the full list is there http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/iso-testing-open-all.html
[17:10] <jibel> that's all from me on beta 2 testing
[17:10] <Ursinha> ..?
[17:11] <gema> he's probably gone to continue testing
[17:11] <gema> ..
[17:11] <jibel> ..
[17:11] <Ursinha> :)
[17:11] <jibel> sorry
[17:11] <Ursinha> cool
[17:11] <Ursinha> no problem
[17:11] <Ursinha> anything else from anyone on that topic?
[17:11] <Ursinha> moving on
[17:11] <Ursinha> [TOPIC] Automated/Systems Testing
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[17:12] <gema> o/
[17:12] <Ursinha> go ahead gema :)
[17:12] <gema> not much to update this week, I am still looking for people that can send comments on the test analysis for ubiquity, so if anyone else wants to volunteer that'd be good
[17:13] <gema> and I am helping with Beta 2 as well
[17:13] <gema> nothing else from me
[17:13] <gema> ..
[17:13] <Ursinha> cool
[17:13] <Ursinha> so please help gema :)
[17:13] <Ursinha> I have something as well, not sure if entirely related
[17:14] <Ursinha> I'm testing the new checkbox as ara asked us to do (using checkbox ppa) but it seems there's no gtk or cli packages available
[17:14] <Ursinha> ara isn't here
[17:14] <charlie-tca> o/
[17:14] <Ursinha> go ahead charlie-tca
[17:14] <charlie-tca> I didn't forget, I just ran a bit short of time. I am sorry and will get to it this week, gema
[17:15] <gema> not a problem, charlie-tca, there's still time :)
[17:15] <gema> I was trying to recruit more minds :)
[17:15] <gema> ..
[17:15] <charlie-tca> ..
[17:15] <Ursinha> :)
[17:15] <Ursinha> cool
[17:15] <Ursinha> [action] Ursinha to chase checkbox package problem with ara
[17:15] <meetingology> ACTION: Ursinha to chase checkbox package problem with ara
[17:15] <Ursinha> moving on then
[17:15] <Ursinha> [TOPIC] Engineering Team Bug Status
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[17:16] <Ursinha> hggdh, is it your time to shine? :)
[17:16] <Ursinha> hmm
[17:16] <jibel> Ursinha, hggdh won't attend this meeting
[17:17] <Ursinha> he might not be around
[17:17] <Ursinha> ah, ok
[17:17] <Ursinha> jibel, is that permanent or just today?
[17:17] <jibel> today
[17:17] <Ursinha> okay :)
[17:17] <Ursinha> so, I'm working on adding an apport hook to powernap package
[17:18] <Ursinha> also working on a prioritized report of bugs for the server team
[17:18] <Ursinha> and also tweaking the SRU report so it won't break launchpad when it runs.
[17:18] <Ursinha> ..
[17:18] <Ursinha> bdmurray, pedro_, hello folks! anything for us this week?
[17:19] <pedro_> not from me at least, been catching up since holidays and triaging iso testing bugs
[17:19] <jibel> Brian couldn't be here either
[17:19] <Ursinha> right, thanks pedro
[17:19] <Ursinha> or pedro_
[17:19] <Ursinha> jibel, okay.. :)
[17:19] <Ursinha> let's move on then
[17:19] <pedro_> he's with hggdh? ;-)
[17:20] <Ursinha> lol
[17:20] <Ursinha> [TOPIC] Other Topics
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[17:20] <Ursinha> free for all
[17:20] <Ursinha> anything else you have in mind?
[17:20] <gema> we would like to improve a lot going forward
[17:20] <gema> the automation testing for Ubuntu
[17:20] <gema> so if anyone has any thoughts that they want to see implemented
[17:21] <gema> I would like to see them coming our way :D
[17:21] <Ursinha> gema, cool :) where to get started on that?
[17:21] <gema> exactly !
[17:21] <Ursinha> I mean
[17:21] <gema> anything, we are where we are and we would like to improve
[17:21] <Ursinha> where could one get started on that? :P
[17:22] <Ursinha> is there a wiki page or something for an interested person?
[17:22] <gema> ideas, whenever you've been testing, where have you seen room for improvement
[17:22] <gema> what would you do different if you had time to
[17:22] <gema> what do you find confusing
[17:22] <gema> anything
[17:22] <Ursinha> seems good
[17:22] <Ursinha> gema, is there a page where ideas are being discussed/noted?
[17:23] <gema> not yet, but we will get there
[17:23] <Ursinha> cool :)
[17:23] <gema> put an action on me to make that happen
[17:23] <Ursinha> !
[17:23] <Ursinha> [action] gema to create a starting point (page or something) to discuss and note automation testing for Ubuntu
[17:23] <meetingology> ACTION: gema to create a starting point (page or something) to discuss and note automation testing for Ubuntu
[17:23] <gema> thanks
[17:23] <gema> ..
[17:23] <Ursinha> is that ok?
[17:23] <Ursinha> cool
[17:23] <Ursinha> anyone else?
[17:24] <Ursinha> thanks gema!
[17:24] <Ursinha> [TOPIC] Chair Selection
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[17:24] <Ursinha> gema, do you have that blinky shuffle command in there?
[17:24] <Ursinha> handy
[17:24] <gema> it was shuf and the names
[17:25] <gema> of whoever is here
[17:25] <Ursinha> hehe
[17:25] <Ursinha> that would be me, you, jibel, pedro_, nuclearbob and charlie-tca
[17:25] <gema> no, not out of the box, gimme a sec
[17:25] <charlie-tca> looks like this in terminal:
[17:25] <charlie-tca> shuf -e hggdh patrickmw pedro_ bdmurray jibel Ursinha nuclearbob gema charlie-tca|head -1
[17:26] <Ursinha> awesome charlie-tca
[17:26] <charlie-tca> well, take out some names, I guess
[17:26] <gema> yep, that's it
[17:26] <jibel> Ursinha, propose a patch against the bot to add a meetingology command
[17:26] <Ursinha> [action] Ursinha to add irc commands to the next chair
[17:26] <meetingology> ACTION: Ursinha to add irc commands to the next chair
[17:26] <Ursinha> jibel, you did or you want me to do that? :)
[17:27] <jibel> you will
[17:27] <Ursinha> hahaha
[17:27]  * Ursinha appends that to her TODO list
[17:27] <Ursinha> 14:27:01 ursula@galactica: ~ $ shuf -e hggdh pedro_ jibel Ursinha nuclearbob gema charlie-tca|head -1
[17:27] <Ursinha> jibel
[17:27] <charlie-tca> Yay, jibel
[17:27] <Ursinha> how does that look?
[17:27] <charlie-tca> looks right to me
[17:27] <Ursinha> :)
[17:27] <jibel> haha, what a coincidence, I don't trust your terminal
[17:28] <Ursinha> I can printscreen that!
[17:28] <Ursinha> :)
[17:28] <Ursinha> jibel, if that's not ok I can run that again
[17:29] <jibel> Ursinha, no problem, that's perfect
[17:29] <Ursinha> good then :)
[17:29] <Ursinha> so
[17:29] <Ursinha> #endmeeting
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[17:29] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Sep 21 17:29:31 2011 UTC.
[17:29] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-09-21-17.03.moin.txt
[17:29] <Ursinha> thanks guys!
[17:29] <pedro_> Ursinha, thanks for chairing!
[17:29] <gema> thank you!
[17:29]  * jibel immediate worry is to have Beta 2 covered
[17:29] <charlie-tca> Ursinha: thank you for chairing
[17:29] <Ursinha> no problem!
[17:29] <jibel> Thanks Ursinha
[17:30] <Ursinha> it was a nice experience, I can do that again if you want :)
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