[00:33] <micahg> knome: there might be an extension for that
[00:34] <micahg> knome: what do you mean by custom command
[11:30] <knome> micahg, found out already. "Mailbox Alert" is the extension
[14:33] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, i had a look at your change to get the eds extension building again
[14:34] <chrisccoulson> don't you need to set PYTHONPATH anywhere?
[14:34] <chrisccoulson> as typelib.py includes some modules that aren't in the normal location
[14:34] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: hm, good point
[14:34] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: hang on, let me dive in
[14:35] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, PYTHONPATH=$LIBXUL_SDK/sdk/bin should do it
[14:36] <m_conley> PYTHONPATH=$PYTHONPATH:$LIBXUL_SDK/sdk/bin, no?
[14:36] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, yeah, that's technically more correct
[14:40] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: pushed!
[14:41] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, thanks
[15:10] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, i'll fix the thunderbird-dev package to install the new typelib.py bits as well
[15:10] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: ah, lovely. :)
[15:28] <chrisccoulson> hmm, seems like there's still quite a bit of fallout from bug 855171 :/
[15:28] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 855171 in ca-certificates-java "libnss3.so went missing after upgrade" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/855171
[15:32] <chrisccoulson> ouch, the downloadable mozilla.org xulrunner sdk is huge
[15:33] <chrisccoulson> all i want to do is look at what files are installed in it
[15:33] <chrisccoulson> 270MB
[15:46] <bhearsum> chrisccoulson: i can tar -jvxf for you if you want
[15:46] <bhearsum> s/x/v/
[15:46] <bhearsum> i mean t
[15:46] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, it's ok, i've got it here now :)
[15:46] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[15:46] <bhearsum> oh, ok
[16:00] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, ok, i'm respinning the thunderbird nightly build with your eds extension fix in now
[16:00] <chrisccoulson> lets hope that works :)
[16:01] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: fingers crossed.  :)
[16:01] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: that should also take care of some ABI bustage too.
[16:01] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, yeah, i fixed that locally then realized i never sent you a patch ;)
[16:01] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: it happens.  :)
[16:02] <chrisccoulson> oh, everyone is going to be pleased with me. 2 firefox + thunderbird builds in one day. i'm going to run before people start complaining that i've taken all the builders again ;)
[16:02] <chrisccoulson> bbiab
[16:35] <cormyn> anyone know if mozilla has a dedicated IRC channel just for thunderbird?
[16:41] <bhearsum> #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org
[16:43] <micahg> chrisccoulson: there's no reason for such complaints, there are plenty of buildds available
[17:16] <maolon> Hello ! I'm not sure to ask at the right place, so let me know if I'm wrong. I have a problem to find my messages in icedove (clone of thunderbird I think) because I totally reinstalled my Debian Lenny. I kept /home partition (no formatting), and the directories where are my messages are intact, but I can't retrieve all my mails and contacts. Is there a solution ? I search on the web but find nothing. Thank.
[17:17] <maolon> thanks*
[17:24] <maolon> bye !
[17:39] <FernandoMiguel> evening
[17:48] <maolon> Hello ! I'm not sure to ask at the right place, so let me know if I'm wrong. I have a problem to find my messages in icedove (clone of thunderbird I think) because I totally reinstalled my Debian Lenny. I kept /home partition (no formatting), and the directories where are my messages are intact, but I can't retrieve all my mails and contacts. Is there a solution ? I search on the web but find nothing. Thanks.
[17:56] <maolon> Thanks anyway bye !
[17:56] <micahg> wow, 10 minutes isn't long enough for most people to read the message
[17:59] <FernandoMiguel> micahg: eheh
[18:00] <micahg> chrisccoulson: could you please add me to chromium-daily?  also, any chance of adding chromium to your crons or is it all running from the DC now?
[18:03] <FernandoMiguel> micahg: who is looking into video v4l ? it breaks with google chat plugin
[18:04] <micahg> FernandoMiguel: idk, is there  a bug report somewhere?
[18:04] <FernandoMiguel> no
[18:04] <FernandoMiguel> since it's not a package in the archive
[18:04] <FernandoMiguel> it's 3rd party
[18:05] <FernandoMiguel> but since we are the ones breaking
[18:05] <FernandoMiguel> it
[18:05] <micahg> upstream says it's our fault?
[18:05] <FernandoMiguel> and it will affect 11.10 and gmail/gtalk gadget/Plus
[18:05] <FernandoMiguel> not sure
[18:05] <FernandoMiguel> I told a google plus dev about it and sent feedback
[18:06] <micahg> ok, is it a binary plugin?
[18:07] <micahg> FernandoMiguel: we don't really have anyone to chase down stuff for chromium ATM, my goal is just to keep the various channels building and maybe find someone to upstream bug reports
[18:07] <FernandoMiguel> not chromium
[18:08] <micahg> ah
[18:08] <FernandoMiguel> it breaks for every browser
[18:08] <micahg> orly?
[18:08] <FernandoMiguel> yeah
[18:08] <micahg> FernandoMiguel: is there a homepage for this?
[18:08] <FernandoMiguel>  google-talkplugin depends on lib32v4l-0; however:
[18:08] <FernandoMiguel>   Package lib32v4l-0 is not installed.
[18:09] <FernandoMiguel> micahg: sure... let me find a direct link
[18:09] <FernandoMiguel> micahg: http://www.google.com/talk/
[18:09] <micahg> FernandoMiguel: right, now with multiarch, that should be an alternate dependency on the actual library
[18:09] <micahg> *there should be
[18:10] <micahg> FernandoMiguel: try installing the 32 bit version
[18:10] <FernandoMiguel> :\
[18:10] <FernandoMiguel> that doesn't fix it to *everybody*
[18:10] <micahg> FernandoMiguel: if it's using lib32v4l, it's not 64 bit anyways
[18:11] <FernandoMiguel> but the plugin *is* 64bits
[18:11] <FernandoMiguel> google-talkplugin_current_amd64.deb
[18:11] <micahg> no, it's a 64 bit deb, the plugin is 32 bit
[20:21] <bhearsum> how's the 11.10 beta these days?
[20:21] <bhearsum> would i be a fool to uprgade to it? ;)
[20:41] <chrisccoulson> hi bhearsum
[20:41] <chrisccoulson> it's not too bad, but i recommend using unity-2d
[20:41] <bhearsum> ah
[20:42] <chrisccoulson> that's what i'm using atm, i find it much more reliable
[20:42] <bhearsum> than 3d, or 11.04? ;)
[20:42] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, than 3d
[20:43] <chrisccoulson> 3d still has some really critical bugs related to window stacking, although those should be fixed straight after the beta release
[20:43] <chrisccoulson> but i dislike the design in 3d ;)
[20:45] <bhearsum> ah
[20:45] <bhearsum> interesting, i might upgrade to iton one of my machines tonight
[21:53] <micahg> FernandoMiguel: slangasek just updated ia32-libs to fix your gtalk plugin issue
[21:53] <micahg> chrisccoulson: thanks for the Firefox branch updates :), did you make a tarball yet or should I ?
[21:54] <FernandoMiguel> thank you
[21:56] <micahg> chrisccoulson: disregard tarball question, doesn't exist yet :)
[21:56] <chrisccoulson> micahg, not yet, i'll do that tomorrow. i want to do the thunderbird branches tonight
[21:56] <chrisccoulson> if there aren't any tarballs tomorrow, i'll just create them from the current beta, assuming there are no respins
[21:57] <micahg> chrisccoulson: does the globalmenu extension for thunderbird natty need any tweaking?
[21:57] <chrisccoulson> micahg, for natty? i don't think so, but natty is still on 3.1
[21:57] <chrisccoulson> i don't think anything should change there
[21:58] <micahg> chrisccoulson: right, ok, I'm going to upload soon, just wanted to make sure I didn't forget something
[21:58] <chrisccoulson> yeah, that needs updating with every release in natty for firefox ;)
[21:58] <micahg> heh, rapid release, ftw, right?
[21:59] <chrisccoulson> it's not really that difficult. it's just binary extensions that are a pain
[21:59] <chrisccoulson> and only crazy people write those now
[21:59] <chrisccoulson> which reminds me
[22:00] <chrisccoulson> someone pinged me on IRC a few days ago and said there is a version of mozvoikko implemented in js-ctypes
[22:00] <chrisccoulson> we should try that out, and consider switching to that if it works
[22:00] <chrisccoulson> this binary version is an absolute nightmare for us
[22:01] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ok, I'm fine with switching if it reduces the maintenance burden
[22:02] <chrisccoulson> it should reduce it a lot. the actual mozvoikko code isn't that bad to maintain, as it doesn't use any interfaces which break frequently
[22:02] <chrisccoulson> so it really just needs a rebuild for each release
[22:02] <chrisccoulson> the problem though, is its build system
[22:02] <micahg> joelesko: can you rebase your seamonkey branch against 2.4.0 when it's tagged?  I'll try to get to it over the weekend
[22:02] <chrisccoulson> which is a total mess, and seems to break with every little change in firefox
[22:04] <micahg> chrisccoulson: let's make sure also we chat before you go on vacation to bring me up to speed on anything I might need to know
[22:04] <chrisccoulson> micahg, yeah, i was going to write an email tomorrow
[22:04] <chrisccoulson> it should be pretty straightforward
[22:04] <micahg> that would be great
[22:04] <chrisccoulson> just basically keeping on top of the beta releases, and i will have all the beta branches ready to go anyway
[22:04] <micahg> I currently don't know how the eds/globalmenu branches work in the scheme of the oneiric uploads
[22:05] <chrisccoulson> i wouldn't worry about that too much, i should have that sorted before i go
[22:05] <chrisccoulson> hopefully it should just be a case of doing beta uploads
[22:05] <micahg> ok
[22:05] <micahg> ok, well, that will just be for the PPAs then
[22:05] <chrisccoulson> the version of globalmenu-extension in oneiric is already compatible with firefox 9
[22:06] <micahg> excellent
[22:06] <chrisccoulson> i've just bumped bindwood compatibility to 9 as well, as one of the u1 guys has been testing it on the current nightlies
[22:09] <micahg> cool, that's been a thorn in my side, but I"ll poke dobey to test once it's all up
[22:12] <chrisccoulson> it seems that nobody has noticed that i've only been running the lucid/maverick aurora/nightly builds twice per week ;)
[22:12] <chrisccoulson> i changed it to only run nightly on natty and oneiric
[22:12] <chrisccoulson> i wonder how many people actually use those on old releases
[22:18] <micahg> chrisccoulson: BTW, when can we chat about chromium
[22:18] <chrisccoulson> heh :)
[22:18] <chrisccoulson> i wanted to set up some cron jobs to get the dailies going again, seeing as i've got the firefox builds running from chinstrap now
[22:19] <chrisccoulson> but that went out of the window this week after getting involved with boot speed stuff
[22:19] <chrisccoulson> do you know which branch was being used for which build?
[22:19] <micahg> chrisccoulson: that would be great, I can probably keep them running, so, that's a no go before you get back?
[22:19] <micahg> chrisccoulson: yes
[22:19] <chrisccoulson> i couldn't tell which branch that the current oneiric version was coming from
[22:20] <micahg> .head -> daily, .dev -> dev, .beta -> beta, .stable -> stable
[22:20] <micahg> chrisccoulson: .oneiric is oneiric
[22:20] <micahg> all chromium-browser.x
[22:20] <chrisccoulson> oh, i must have missed that one then ;)
[22:21] <micahg> I'm going to merge .stable from .beta when I get a chance, and then merge stable to oneiric
[22:21]  * micahg finally figured out how to do those merges...
[22:25] <micahg> chrisccoulson: BTW, I think I'm going to go for an NSS update on Monday, we should release with updated roots
[22:25] <chrisccoulson> yeah, makes sense
[22:26] <chrisccoulson> merging with bzr is a pain, as i found out recently ;)
[22:26] <chrisccoulson> i don't like the bzr way of tracking files by unique identifiers
[22:26] <chrisccoulson> it breaks if you add a file separately to 2 different branches and then try to merge them
[22:28] <micahg> yeah, I plan to merge specific revisions w/ -c
[22:30] <chrisccoulson> micahg, that still suffers from the same problem :)
[22:30] <chrisccoulson> i discovered that with all of our mozilla branches, which have all evolved separately over time
[22:32] <micahg> :(
[22:33] <micahg> chrisccoulson: BTW, can you add me to chromium-daily team please?
[22:34] <chrisccoulson> micahg, yeah, done
[22:34] <micahg> chrisccoulson: thanks
[22:34]  * micahg figures he can manually upload stable for the moment
[23:51] <joelesko_> micahg: Yes I will rebase against 2.4 as soon as it's tagged for release.
[23:52] <micahg> joelesko_: thanks!
[23:52] <micahg> I'll get it uploaded before release, just not sure if I'll get to it this week
[23:53] <joelesko_> np. It must be getting crazy
[23:54] <micahg> yep :)
[23:55] <chrisccoulson> i need to have a look at that too :)
[23:55] <chrisccoulson> and i definitely need to do it this week, seeing as i'm on vacation for 2 weeks ;)
[23:55] <joelesko_> I'll pull the rc tonight to make sure it packages correctly.
[23:56] <joelesko_> chrisccoulson: hi. Sounds like you have a full schedule also. Enjoy the time off.