=== warzauwynn_ is now known as warzauwynn [01:01] i installed ubuntu 64bit server on a VM and I can't access the internet although it should work. i think i bjorked my network settings, how do i reset them to 'default' ? [02:23] I'm trying to activate curl with php but it just won't acknowledge the extension is installed. [02:24] Maybe ask #php [02:27] it's currently invite only [02:29] That probably means you need to register your nick with freenode [02:37] twb`, no it means that you cannot join because the channel is locked [02:37] hence invite only [02:39] Plonk. [02:39] (Oh, it's ##php, you might be hitting the funky redirect misfeature.) [02:40] (Namely if you're already in the channel you're redirected to, you get an error.) [02:40] (Certainly, ##php is not invite only for registered users.) [03:00] #php ##php :Forwarding to another channel [03:00] heh, stupid [03:00] and I'm registered [03:00] patdk-lap: yes, but he wasn't [03:01] this channel redirection stuff on freenode really pisses me off though [03:01] I don't really see what the alternative is, though [03:02] Register #php and set /topic to "join ##php" ? [03:02] if I wanted to join #php, I want to join #php not ##php [03:02] if I can't join #php, ok, tell me, don't force me into ##php [03:02] I guess [03:03] FYI, it's ##foo not #foo because the latter is reserved for official channels [03:03] same goes for #ubuntu+1 :) [03:03] if I wanted #ubuntu, I would join #ubuntu :) [03:04] What, #ubuntu+1 redirects now? [03:04] That's lame [03:04] it will, oct 31st [03:04] Why? [03:04] +1 will still be +1 after a release [03:05] cause 12.04 won't exist in the build yet [03:05] once the package system is done, it's unredirected [03:05] happens every release cycle [03:05] #ubuntu+1 closes for about a month [03:05] I guess given that ubuntu is mostly used by noobs, I can understand doing that to flush them out [03:06] but, I hardly talk in ubuntu+1 anymore, moved more to ubuntu-testing now [03:06] oh ya, I was suppost to file bugs tonight [03:06] but stupid hp firmware died on me, and had emergancy downtime :( [03:06] Ubuntu doesn't have a testing alias :P [03:07] #ubuntu-testing: Currently testing Oneiric Beta 1 candidates | http://qa.ubuntu.com/testing/iso-testing/ | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com [03:07] I know I dropped #debian for #debian-next to reduce noise. [03:07] Obviously the right name should be #foo′ :p [03:36] <[1]VampsDaBeast> hey guys. i have a question bout setting up a server to share external hard drives thru my network, how difficult is that to do === [1]VampsDaBeast is now known as VampsDaBeast [03:42] [1]VampsDaBeast it depends. do you want to manage file sharing permissions to lock areas down do you want to mix in authentication? what os's are you working with? [03:45] <[1]VampsDaBeast> idlemind, sorry bout that. net went out on me === [1]VampsDaBeast is now known as VampsDaBeast [03:49] vampsdabeast np so you are running linux and windows boxes? [03:52] idlemind, yes.. my network is a mix of both win and ubuntu.... i want to set up a box to share 3 external HD's [03:52] i'd roll with samba [03:53] can 10.04 setup with a LAMP/ISPConfig be able to handle that [03:54] not sure what ISPConfig is but yes you can throw SAMBA on a server that has a LAMP stack installed [03:54] ISPconfig = web hosting system [03:54] if that LAMP box is connected to the Internet you may be opening up your data to any attack that gets into your server === RyanP is now known as Guest22077 === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia === Kiall is now known as Guest77745 [08:04] morning all [08:12] Daviey: would you like me to pickup that extra euca security fix into the MP I have already raised for the SSLv3 compatibility? [08:14] jamespage: that sounds like a great idea. [08:16] jamespage: wow, this debdiff for asterisk is huge. [08:16] yeah - makes be kinda nervous TBH [08:17] woah. [08:17] mysql installation just threw gibberish at my terminal [08:17] Anyone ever seen something like that before? [08:17] hi all [08:18] nigelb: gibberish ? pastebin/screenshot [08:18] nigelb: no, can you pastebin? [08:18] hey koolhead11 [08:18] hey Daviey :) [08:18] nigelb: did you get your cron issue sorted btw? [08:20] jamespage: $ wc -l *.debdiff [08:20] 92404 asterisk_1.8.4.4~dfsg-2ubuntu1.debdiff [08:20] Daviey: yep [08:20] 10MB! [08:20] yikes [08:20] even though it is just bug fixes it feels like that really needs a FFE for sanity [08:21] Grumble, should be using .debian.tar.gz by now [08:21] Well that is how i'm treating it. [08:21] koolhead11 / Daviey - http://people.ubuntu.com/~nigelbabu/mysql-wtf.png [08:21] twb: uh? [08:21] the dbconf prompt for root password had something similar too. [08:22] nigelb: do you hav a funky locale set? [08:22] Daviey: re .debdiff. Except I guess that's a diff between debian and ubuntu or something, not upstream and ubuntu [08:22] nigelb: something has asked to move from G0 to G1 mode [08:22] twb: diff between ubuntu old and ubuntu new, bringing in debian changes. [08:23] nigelb: you need to run "reset" (type it blind) to get back to normal [08:23] Daviey: ok nm then [08:23] Daviey: Nope, its en_US; twb - thanks! [08:23] Oh hell. [08:23] As to *why*; I don't know [08:23] I managed to lock dpkg [08:23] Usually it's when you cat a binary file [08:24] I suppose it might be possible to do it by mashing your head on the keyboard, too [08:24] nigelb is well known for head smashing the keyboard. [08:24] :D [08:25] nigelb: what was the instance ami id? [08:25] I maintain summit! Its understood! :P [08:27] nigelb: /etc/cloud/build.info [08:27] Perl programmer hey [08:28] zul: hey [08:28] Daviey: [08:28] build_name: server [08:28] serial: 20110719 [08:29] What happens if you do >1 build in a day? [08:30] twb: .X [08:30] For Kubuntu Oneiric it reached .8 yesterday. :) [08:30] hah, .9, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/ [08:30] Fair enough [08:31] I was gonna suggest following the DNS convention [08:31] twb: zone files? [08:31] yes [08:31] YYYYMMDDNN [08:32] YAY! All restored :-0 [08:32] twb: Yeah, i'm not a fan of having .'s in names.. but meh, it works. [08:32] nigelb: Would be interesting to find out what caused it [08:33] The .N scheme means you have to stop at 9 or break LC_COLLATE=C [08:33] Daviey: I'm been pro yaking shaving this week :-) [08:33] I've never seen that before following an apt install of a package [08:33] Neither have I. [08:33] I'm guessing I've screwed up mysql totally. [08:34] I've been setting it up since 9 in the morning. Its 2 pm now. [08:34] Is it a mysql package you just built? [08:34] twb: TBH, if we roll >9 images in a day, we are doing it wrong™ [08:34] Daviey: optimist [08:34] twb: I don't build packages for production :) [08:34] nigelb: so how did YOU screw it up? [08:34] twb: Actually, I think he means given the time it takes, there may not be enough time :) [08:34] twb: chaging datadir [08:34] its always a mess. [08:34] Thank you apparmor. [08:35] twb: The reason there were 9 yesterday for Kubuntu, was due to archive inconsistencies on the build archive. Ie, a bug. === doko_ is now known as doko [08:35] so it was restarted multiple times. [08:48] jamespage: Just gone through the changelog, and it does seem to all be bug fixes, High/Medium and making stuff DTRT. [08:48] Daviey: yes - that was my take as well [08:48] but there are **alot** of them [08:57] jamespage: i'm going to try the package myself for a bit.. to see if it WFM. [08:57] https://launchpad.net/~davewalker/+archive/junk/+sourcepub/1949848/+listing-archive-extra [09:04] oh, WIN. [09:04] mysql doesn't start up anymore \m/ [09:06] Anyone knows which package has my.cnf? [09:07] mysql-server [09:07] thanks! [09:08] * popey hands nigelb a "dpkg -S /etc/mysql/my.cnf" [09:08] popey: I don't have the file :D [09:09] popey: Right. I could just run it on the laptop. Thanks! [09:09] Even if you deleted it, if it's a connfile it'll still be listed by dpkg -S / dlocate [09:09] indeed [09:09] also [09:09] AHH! [09:09] However if it's e.g. ucf'd, then you'd need to read /var/lib/dpg/info/... [09:09] * popey hands nigelb http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=my.cnf&mode=exactfilename&suite=natty&arch=any [09:09] <-- sucks as a sysadmin. [09:09] nigelb: you are not alone [09:10] Much of my job is cleaning up after that kind of sysadmin. [09:11] * koolhead11 thinks going to be tough day figuring out keystone [09:40] Daviey: MP for euca updated with the clock difference patch [09:40] just testing it now [09:47] jamespage: rocking [09:49] i love cobbler - makes tearing down and rebuilding systems for testing so much quicker [09:51] jamespage: totally agree, although am yet to find way to provide custom partitioning [09:51] :( [09:52] Hi, I'm having a problem with a fresh installed Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS server with MySQL 5.1.41-3ubuntu12.10. I've imported 1500 databases, 10 GB, (including the mysql DB) and copied the /etc/mysql/debian.cnf from the old (Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS, MySQL 5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.7) to the new server. All went fine and everything is up and running. The only problem I've is debian-start is running 16 times pushing the load to 17 and keeps doing this continuesly. Is anyone [09:52] fammiliar with this kind of behaviour? [09:53] zul: there is no keystone configuration file with pkg keystone? [09:55] some log and ps aux information can be found here: http://pastie.org/private/ivf3wb7jzuorq3mdlazfya [10:06] Daviey: ping [10:33] hey koolhead11 [10:33] I have one 8.10 ubuntu-server, is it possible to upgrade this system to LTS? [10:33] (8.10 repositories are currently unavailable) [10:36] Daviey: am uninstalling the keystone package as well and trying the pkg from github. I have no luck in running keystone yet :( === j0nr_ is now known as j0nr [10:44] koolhead11: Yeah, keystone is erm, interesting at the moment [10:45] lambda_x: yes [10:45] !oldreleases | lambda_x [10:45] Daviey: whole openstack is running around keystone :D [10:52] koolhead11: well yes.. did you see the meeting last night? [10:56] Daviey: read the final outcome of the meetup. :D [10:56] long mail with plans [10:56] * koolhead11 wants to see dashboard replaced from django to something simpler :P [11:00] koolhead11: nah, django is a good choice. [11:02] Daviey: i would love to see http://flask.pocoo.org/ instead :D [11:02] i find django jumbo app :D [11:03] im trying to figure out a way to set up an incremental backup, to backup .tar files from server1 to server2 over a WAN.. would RSYNC work or is there something better [11:04] koolhead11: son of a....can you open up a bug about that [11:04] rsync is freggin' awesome. It's up for the task. [11:04] AdamBlack: you need tarballs? [11:05] rsync is not good for doing incremental tarballs, is it ersi_ ? [11:05] zul: hehe. i thought i should not. :D [11:05] zul: i will replace ... to 'god' :D [11:06] Daviey: True, not to my knowledge atleast. I was more on track about that rsync is great at transfering. The data to be transferred should be fixed prior to rsync use ;p [11:07] Daviey: Server1 hosts websites and uses DirectAdmin, DA stores the site backups in tarball and nobody knows where the sites are stored on the server(just joined this place) its not usuall www [11:08] AdamBlack: DirectAdmin.. :( [11:08] Can't easily help with that myself. [11:09] worst case scenereo i can backup the whole server1 and scp it to server2 :P [11:10] AdamBlack: Try my tool, www.synctus.com/ddar. It'll de-duplicate what it transmits over the wire and store it in an archive at the remote end. [11:11] AdamBlack: it'll work for tarballs - letting you store/trasmit multiple ones that are similar efficiently [11:11] rbasak: interesting! [11:11] rbasak: having a look now :D [11:13] rbasak: hey. [11:13] hey koolhead11! [11:14] zul: okey, am reporting it sir. :D [11:15] koolhead11: less bugs, more patches :P [11:16] Daviey: :) [11:30] hey guys im running into an issue where i cannot set my locale when running tzdata anyone else experiencing this issue [11:30] im on 10.04.3 [11:32] this is the output im getting [11:32] http://pastebin.com/byk0TbNT [11:39] eagles0513875: do you want me to google that for you? [11:40] no need just the first time im seeing that [11:40] pmatulis: i ran dpkg-reconfigure tzdata and set it to my right time zone yet it still brings what i pasted up [11:45] pmatulis: why are these msg's popping up about lc_ctype cannot change and warning about setlocale lc_ctype cannot change locals when i do a tab completion === ersi_ is now known as ersi [12:19] Anyone familiar with Symfony (PHP) here? [12:19] https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-dashboard/+bug/855467 [12:19] Launchpad bug 855467 in openstack-dashboard "Keystone fails to locate any configuration file." [Undecided,New] [12:19] Jeeves_: ? === Guest77745 is now known as Kiall [12:20] koolhead11: If anyone is familiar with it [12:21] Jeeves_: you can ask the question if its related to ubuntu server i suppose :) [12:23] i am about to launch 2 webservers. Both of these will host same app code. I want both server's nginx, php conf and app code to be in sync. Whats the best way? NFS? cron'ed rsync? something else? [12:51] Daviey: euca appears to still work with both of those patches applied [12:51] good morning [12:52] morning zul [12:52] good if you want to sponsor - https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/ubuntu/oneiric/eucalyptus/fix-sslv3-compat/+merge/76258 [12:52] but i would be tainted [12:57] jamespage: you've missed the fact that you can upload that yourself [12:57] :) [12:57] I don't think so [12:57] I used to be able to [12:58] ah [12:58] nope - I can't :-) [12:58] Yes, sorry.. you can for SRU, oddly :) [12:58] jamespage: you used to be trusted, but not anymore :) [12:58] yes - but thats because its generated from the seed [12:59] and the seed if difference pre oneiric [12:59] wel yes [13:00] zul: I saw that cgroups/libvirt issue again last night - bug 842845 [13:00] Launchpad bug 842845 in libvirt "problems starting multiple lxc instances concurrently" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/842845 [13:01] jamespage: bah [13:01] but I was only trying to start one instance this time :-( [13:01] jamespage: did you switch between like kvm to lxc? [13:01] nope - it was a fresh install with just lxc only [13:01] In other news, turns out rice cooked in a microwave is less than good. [13:02] Daviey: duh.. [13:02] I started up a 4 OK (in a single reservation) - left it overnight and then tried to start one this morning - quack quack oooppps [13:02] jamespage: can i get acccess to the machine? [13:02] * koolhead11 kicks himself [13:02] zul: nope - I had to scrub it to test the euca fixes :-( [13:03] jamespage: doh [13:03] but I'll set it up again ~ 20 mins [13:03] jamespage: ok lemme know when you can give me access [13:03] sure [13:05] zul: whilst you are waiting, you could setup ipv6 to connect to jamespage's network. :) [13:05] that you could [13:05] jamespage: how can i do that? [13:06] I'm IPv6 enabled so all my servers get globally accessible IP addresses [13:06] okies...meaning :) [13:06] I'll have to permit you access through my firewall [13:07] zul: you don't have IPv6? [13:07] jamespage: ok [13:07] zul: forwarding you a mail [13:07] jamespage: no [13:07] :-( [13:07] still old school [13:07] zul: chuck.shortk right? [13:07] Daviey: eh? [13:08] zul: you have mail. [13:08] oh goody i love email [13:08] this might be a stupid question [13:08] but how do I easily see what preseed configuration parameters a package has? [13:09] What's the preferred way of getting a nova test environment going on oneiric? I'm trying https://github.com/vishvananda/novascript/blob/master/nova.sh but it doesn't seem to want to work with lp:ubuntu/nova [13:10] rbasak, all-in-one install try this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Oneiric/OpenStackTestPlan [13:10] jamespage: something like, $ debconf-get-selections | grep mysql [13:10] ? [13:11] jamespage: thanks, but can I run out of my own nova source tree? [13:12] rbasak: if using lp:nova, i would use nova.sh [13:12] Daviey: nova.sh works with lp:nova but evidently not with lp:ubuntu/nova [13:13] rbasak: if using lp:ubuntu/nova, i'd probably generate a deb TBH [13:13] I have a patch that may or may not work but I can't get a sensible environment to test it in [13:24] morning everyone === ahs3` is now known as ahs3 [13:35] does anyone know how to make iscsi connection logins persistent across reboots on the initiator ? using 10.04 server LTS [13:45] jamespage: i don`t see mysql there :P [13:45] it does not need it [13:46] for all-in-one anyway [13:46] New bug: #628039 in open-vm-tools (multiverse) "open-vm-tools requires xorg but is supposed to be CLI only (dup-of: 604998)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628039 [13:46] New bug: #855366 in openssh (main) "package openssh-server 1:5.3p1-3ubuntu7 failed to install/upgrade: procedure installed post-installation script returned error code 2" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/855366 [13:46] New bug: #855401 in exim4 (main) "package exim4-config 4.74-1ubuntu1.2 failed to install/upgrade: el subproceso instalado el script post-installation devolvió el código de salida de error 2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/855401 [13:46] New bug: #855411 in kvm (main) "kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-3.0.0/arch/x86/kvm/../../../virt/kvm/kvm_main.c:2275!" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/855411 [13:46] New bug: #855416 in net-snmp (main) "package snmpd 5.4.3~dfsg-2.2ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: Unterprozess installiertes post-installation-Skript gab den Fehlerwert 1 zurück" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/855416 [13:48] Daviey: Is there any documentation at all for the orchestra stuff? [13:48] Daviey: I've installed ubuntu-orchestra-provisioning-server. Now what? [13:48] soren: in progress [13:48] RoAkSoAx: Does that mean "no"? [13:48] soren: there is [13:48] Great! :) [13:48] Where? [13:49] soren: but im in the mprocess of writing it on help.u.c [13:49] soren: starting to [13:49] jcastro: ping [13:49] RoAkSoAx: Where is it now? [13:50] soren: private [13:50] jamespage: earlier we used mysql for all in one on natty and were thinking the same for oneiric. :d [13:50] I see. [13:50] hey soren [13:50] The problem is that from what I can see, it's completely and utterly broken, but the docs might tell me that this is how it's supposed to (read: not) work. [13:50] Hi, I'm having a problem with a fresh installed Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS server with MySQL 5.1.41-3ubuntu12.10. I've imported 1500 databases, 10 GB, (including the mysql DB) and copied the /etc/mysql/debian.cnf from the old (Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS, MySQL 5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.7) to the new server. All went fine and everything is up and running. The only problem I've is debian-start is running 16 times pushing the load to 17 and keeps doing this continuesly. Is anyone [13:50] fammiliar with this kind of behaviour? some log and ps aux information can be found here: http://pastie.org/private/ivf3wb7jzuorq3mdlazfya [13:51] soren: what specific issues are you seeing? [13:51] Daviey: I don't know. What is it supposed to do? [13:52] Almost every conceivable answer I've been able to come up with for that answer, it doesn't do. [13:52] soren: I was expecting you to reply with package conflicts, or a traceback or something! [13:52] So maybe I'm not veyr good at guesssing what it's meant to do. [13:52] I install the package. It goes... err... fine, I guess. It asks a bunch of questions. I provide answers. When it's done, I haven't a clue what to do. [13:52] There's a new file in /etc/apache2/sites-available. [13:53] (even thought it's not a site) [13:53] ...I enable that.. [13:53] and try to access the URL it "suggests". [13:53] and I get a 403. [13:53] It points to an empty dir, so it's not very interesting anyways. [13:53] soren: what dir? [13:53] So maybe I'm doing this *all* wrong. [13:53] /var/lib/orchestra/www/ [13:53] RoAkSoAx: ^ [13:54] soren: that might be just leftovers [13:54] From what? I *just* installed it. [13:54] It's not been half an hour. [13:54] soren: from previous orchestra version 1.x [13:54] soren: hehe just hold on for a while and I'll have some documentation ready [13:54] In the packages or on my system? [13:54] soren: packages [13:54] Ah. [13:55] Am I installing the wrong pacakge, perhaps? [13:55] If I want the thing that can provision new servers, what should I have installed? [13:55] soren, i think you're not in RoAkSoAx's target audience [13:55] :) [13:55] soren: ubuntu-orchestra-provisioning-server [13:55] smoser: I'm sure I'm not. [13:55] RoAkSoAx: YEah, that's what I got. [13:55] SHould I be using a PPA instead? [13:55] soren: so that should have pulled cobbler [13:56] soren: then imported ISO's automatically to cobbler [13:56] soren: now you need to add systems into cobbler [13:56] I'd be *happy* to report these as bugs, but I don't know if they are. I might be doing this *all wrong* and it's behaving exactly like it's meant to. [13:56] you should have a cobbler web ui at http://127.0.0.1/cobbler_web === scar[w]_ is now known as scar[w] [13:56] cobbler*_web*. [13:56] Of course. [13:56] Why didn't I guess that? [13:56] Great. [13:57] What's the username? I was only asked for a password during install. [13:57] cobbler [13:57] as root, you can run 'cobbler' commands [13:57] and it has useful-ish help [13:57] but i agree that the http:// is completely un-discoverable [13:57] soren, cobbler [13:58] soren, it tells you that the username is cobbler and you need a password for it xD [13:58] smoser / soren: think it requies a debconf note? [13:58] i dont know. i think soren should have just known to go to /cobbler_web [13:58] seriously [13:58] Daviey: debconf note, mention in package description, in /usr/share/doc//README, on help.ubuntu.com. ANywhere, really. Just *somewhere*. [13:58] Not just in the logs from this channel :) [13:59] soren: google will parse this channel shortly. [13:59] fwiw, i only knew cobbler_web because it is in my browswer history [14:00] ok next upload will ship configuration files for keystone [14:00] zul: er, for what part? [14:02] Daviey: it doesnt ship configuration files in the first place so it doesnt know about the sqlite database that it uses [14:04] zul: ah, ok - you are not coupling anything to keystone, right? [14:04] Daviey: hell no im just making it usuable [14:04] smoser, utlemming: beta-2 ec2 tests look OK - a couple of failures where ec2 failed to provision anything [14:05] and one where the network did not come up on first boot - http://tinyurl.com/6dxsazg [14:06] zul: hmm.. we don't want stuff easy to use, do we? :) [14:06] RoAkSoAx: supp? [14:07] Daviey: of course not :) [14:08] koolhead11: nothing much, you? === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer [14:09] RoAkSoAx: hitting head against keystone. planning to finish my cobbler left over work. Am yet to able to succeed in automated custom partitioning. :( [14:11] Daviey: easy of use? pft [14:13] hey lynxman [14:13] hey koolhead11 o/ [14:18] jamespage: can you try applying this patch? people.canonical.com/~chucks/nova-get-info-exception.patch [14:18] zul: sure [14:32] rbasak: have you documented the cobbler VM install steps somewhere? [14:35] koolhead11: I ended up using http://pad.ubuntu.com/arm-server-netboot (not by me) [14:41] zul - testing that now [14:42] i am about to launch 2 webservers. Both of these will host same app code. I want both server's nginx, php conf and app code to be in sync. Whats the best way? NFS? cron'ed rsync? something else? [14:46] Error404NotFound: rsync [14:46] i have herad of people using for the same [14:46] rsync [14:46] *hear :D [14:47] what about the part which would involve creating new vhosts? i would also have to do a graceful web server restart for those rsync'ed files. [14:50] Error404NotFound: i am not very sure of your application but what you can do is check for nginx as load balancer and rsyc to sync up data on both the systems. [14:51] hmmm, i went another way around, my scripts test for /etc/nginx.reload and if it exists, reload nginx, deletes that from from source as well as destionation. [14:51] destination* [14:51] though still one problem : single point of failure. [14:51] rbasak: https://gist.github.com/1205825 is not accessible to me. am i the only one in world facing that ? [14:52] koolhead11: yes [14:53] koolhead11: wfm [14:53] http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/gist.github.com/1205825 [14:55] rbasak: hkraal seems like websensce is culprit [14:55] smoser: you were asking why nova hasn't built? [14:55] Since the last nova built, it was promoted to main. [14:55] i was, how did you know, Daviey [14:55] glance isn't yet in main, and is a build dep [14:56] ok, so lets pretend for a moment that i dont care why [14:56] and i want to be able to install nova [14:56] just say someone actually wanted to try that [14:56] jd-strand is reviewing glance as we speak, once that is good, we are GOLD> [14:56] ok. [14:57] smoser: then the prior built binary will be installed. [14:57] Until a binary is produced, it will not be superseeded. [14:57] complete with crippling bugs [14:57] :) [14:57] * Daviey cripples smoser [14:57] knowledge of this came from agy telling me that there were no nova updates for Canonistack. [14:59] Error404NotFound: http://wiki.nginx.org/LoadBalanceExample this is what i meant [14:59] hkraal: isup.me [15:02] koolhead11: even with this, configs would have to be copied between both backends and also single point of failure with respect to copying configs. [15:04]