| shauno | heh, classic. Just got an email from one of my vps providers, telling me my host has gone over it's bandwidth allowance. | 03:00 |
|---|---|---|
| shauno | which sounded wrong because it's just a failover MX. it sees very little traffic at all | 03:00 |
| shauno | their web portal says it's at "41.8 TB of 500 GB Used / -44409274698 KB Free". I call shenanigans. | 03:00 |
| Azelphur | haha | 03:03 |
| PalaPad | wb everyone ;) | 07:53 |
| * dogmatic69 survived | 07:53 | |
| === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia | ||
| dogmatic69 | every time i create a vm virtual box dies creating the space for a fixed drive :/ | 08:01 |
| PalaPad | Bad blocks on the drive maybe? | 08:02 |
| PalaPad | Oooo am at barking already only a few stops to go | 08:02 |
| dogmatic69 | Paladine: its a newish drive, how can i check? | 08:09 |
| dogmatic69 | been at 0% for 15 minutes now | 08:09 |
| PalaPad | Run e2fsck or something | 08:10 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps! | 08:14 |
| dogmatic69 | o/ | 08:14 |
| PalaPad | Nearly at fenchrurch | 08:17 |
| dogmatic69 | you cant do a disk check on a disk that is mounted? | 08:17 |
| dogmatic69 | my pc has one HDD only | 08:17 |
| === slackthu1bz is now known as slackthumbz | ||
| bigcalm | dogmatic69: tell it to force a check on next boot | 08:23 |
| dogmatic69 | bigcalm: i reboot when the power trips :/ | 08:25 |
| JamesTait | Morning all! | 08:30 |
| dogmatic69 | tired virtual machine manager and it created the 8gig drive in < 1 second | 08:31 |
| dogmatic69 | virtual box ftl | 08:31 |
| dogmatic69 | unity 2D crashes on my vm | 08:36 |
| === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson | ||
| jpds | shauno: Looks like 'apt-get install vnstat' time. | 08:46 |
| Daviey | wow, Radio 4 is a little colourful today. | 08:49 |
| popey | Morning all! | 08:52 |
| bigcalm | Hola | 08:56 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 08:56 |
| === gmb` is now known as gmb | ||
| gord | Konnichiwa | 09:05 |
| popey | YES! | 09:05 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: Yes? | 09:06 |
| bigcalm | TSB | 09:06 |
| popey | Yes. | 09:06 |
| * czajkowski pokes gord | 09:06 | |
| czajkowski | I need someone to replace my lack of davmor2 and MooDoo | 09:06 |
| AlanBell | こん一羽？ | 09:07 |
| gord | oh, i'm no replacement for them, far to nice | 09:07 |
| diplo | Morning all | 09:08 |
| bigcalm | They are far too nice? | 09:08 |
| popey | O_O | 09:08 |
| MartijnVdS | ಠ_ಠ | 09:09 |
| czajkowski | gord: true | 09:10 |
| czajkowski | gord: who else do you suggest | 09:10 |
| gord | czajkowski, i do not trust this Daviey fellow | 09:11 |
| czajkowski | gord: ya know you make a truely valid point, however I need to be nice to Daviey he has a package for me I need from him in the coming weeks. | 09:11 |
| ProfPourEtudiant | hi | 09:16 |
| AlanBell | hi | 09:16 |
| czajkowski | gord: then I cant pick on AlanBell as he is the leader | 09:17 |
| czajkowski | gord: cant pick on popey as he knows all | 09:17 |
| czajkowski | gord: so it has to be you till Davmor2 comes in | 09:17 |
| czajkowski | otherwise I'll scare others if I pick on them | 09:17 |
| bigcalm | Heh | 09:17 |
| bigcalm | Poor gord | 09:17 |
| * AlanBell has immunity \o/ | 09:17 | |
| czajkowski | <--------- my logic works wonders | 09:17 |
| * bigcalm eyes czajkowski | 09:17 | |
| bigcalm | AlanBell: read that as James Bond villain saying "Diplomatic immunity" | 09:18 |
| AlanBell | bigcalm: that was exactly how I said it :) | 09:20 |
| bigcalm | Nice one :D | 09:20 |
| AlanBell | actually Die Hard I think, the SA chap | 09:20 |
| bigcalm | Oh sod, yes | 09:20 |
| bigcalm | I feel silly now | 09:20 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Thanks bigcalm | 09:22 |
| bigcalm | TheOpenSourcerer: no patches? | 09:23 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | It's fine. | 09:23 |
| bigcalm | Good show :) | 09:23 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | It will probably be moving home in the next couple of months so will have to go down :-( | 09:24 |
| bigcalm | If you had it on a UPS you could move it bit by bit towards its new home | 09:25 |
| harry_ | hey , anyone here who can tell me how to keep window always on top in linux using script?? | 09:28 |
| * bigcalm wants to make a joke about Windows and market share, but shall refrain | 09:29 | |
| bigcalm | Sorry, I don't know :) | 09:30 |
| harry_ | okay thanks.. | 09:31 |
| oimon | anyone see that blog post on planet about UEFI secure boot? | 09:35 |
| bigcalm | Seen links to it all over twitter and G+. Not got around to reading it | 09:36 |
| oimon | could stop you installing your own OS | 09:37 |
| bigcalm | Yes, so I hear | 09:37 |
| AlanBell | it looks nasty to me | 09:39 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I wouldn't worry - it will almost certainly be hacked and broken before it's even released. | 09:39 |
| bigcalm | Would it be a case for the monopolies commission? | 09:40 |
| AlanBell | it will end up like region coded DVD players, you will have to send your laptop off somewhere to be chipped before it will boot linux | 09:40 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | "Windows" and "security" crop up a great deal in the same articles. I'll just say: https://twitter.com/#!/opensourcerer/status/116441785110233088 | 09:43 |
| oimon | TheOpenSourcerer: is that an internet facing server? | 09:44 |
| * bigcalm steps back | 09:44 | |
| TheOpenSourcerer | oimon: No. | 09:44 |
| oimon | ok..otherwise i would have asked for IP address ;) | 09:45 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I wouldn't tell you anyway :P | 09:45 |
| AlanBell | 10.0.0.1 I think :) | 09:45 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | nah, | 09:45 |
| oimon | i've had servers go over 1000 days before | 09:45 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | 2 | 09:45 |
| AlanBell | 64 bytes from 10.0.0.2: icmp_req=1 ttl=62 time=45.8 ms | 09:46 |
| * oimon thinks of privilege escalation bugs in the kernel over the last 571 days | 09:46 | |
| oimon | unless you have ksplice of course | 09:46 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | bah - of course. it is accessible via AlanBell's network... Hmm, better do an nmap sweep of his house. | 09:48 |
| AlanBell | yikes! | 09:48 |
| bigcalm | Something is changing € into ¤ in emails I'm sending via PHP, but I can't work out what. | 09:50 |
| pancro | bigcalm: looks like your encoding may be wrong, maybe you're sending our ISO-8859-1 encoding headers instead of ISO-8859-15 (where ¤ is replaced by €), better off using UTF-8 anyway | 09:55 |
| pancro | s/sending our/sending out/ | 09:55 |
| ikonia | other than Scan and Ebuyer what's a reasonable online UK etailer that people trust ? | 09:56 |
| bigcalm | pancro: it's using UTF-8 | 09:56 |
| bigcalm | ikonia: dabs.co.uk | 09:57 |
| bigcalm | Or .com, I forget | 09:57 |
| ikonia | ahh, I forgot dabs | 09:57 |
| ikonia | I thought they had gone under for some reason | 09:57 |
| bigcalm | BT bought them | 09:57 |
| ikonia | totally forgot about them | 09:57 |
| ikonia | thank you | 09:57 |
| bigcalm | Amazon are good for bits as well | 09:57 |
| ikonia | I was pondering that, but they are mostly "market place" stores that I've had bad experiences with market store on amazon | 09:58 |
| ikonia | if it doesn't come from amazon it's self I'm cautious now | 09:58 |
| pancro | bigcalm: just wondering because of the fact that ¤ was replaced by € in newer 8-bit codepages... just wondering if it's UTF-8 through and thourgh or if there's a link in the chain still working with 8 bit characters. do other UTF-8 characters show up ok? | 09:58 |
| bigcalm | I've only had one semi-bad experience with a market place seller. YMMV | 09:58 |
| ikonia | I've had some good ones too, but the risks and issues dealing with the bad ones put me of | 09:59 |
| ikonia | off | 09:59 |
| bigcalm | Fair enough | 09:59 |
| ikonia | who are the reputable SSD brands at the moment, I'm assuming OCZ are still a core player | 10:00 |
| ikonia | my hard disk just died so I'm tryin to get a replacment, and scan have have SSD's on "pre order" for about 3 months, | 10:00 |
| bigcalm | ikonia: I have an OCZ and would buy again (if I had the money) | 10:02 |
| davmor2 | morning all | 10:02 |
| bigcalm | Hi davmor2. You need to apologise to gord for your late arrival | 10:03 |
| oimon | ikonia: insight | 10:03 |
| ikonia | oimon: that's a name I've not heard before | 10:03 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: why this is the time I arrive :P | 10:04 |
| davmor2 | gord: ^ what's he on? | 10:04 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Nice. AlanBell 's house is only exposing two entry points. | 10:04 |
| davmor2 | TheOpenSourcerer: front door and back door ;) | 10:05 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: what you on about dude? | 10:07 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: czajkowski needed somebody to pick on and you weren't here | 10:09 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: prod, don't annoy gord, you'll upset him you big bully :P | 10:10 |
| * davmor2 passes gord a cup of tea there you go chap calm down and have a brew | 10:11 | |
| togster | Morning all | 10:15 |
| * czajkowski kicks davmor2 well get your arse on earlier then | 10:20 | |
| czajkowski | davmor2: let me tell you about my fun week shall I | 10:21 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: No you need to let it stew and boil over for when I get on | 10:21 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: I lack patience how do you not know this by now | 10:21 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: I do know it but I figure it would annoy you all the more :P | 10:22 |
| === j0nr_ is now known as j0nr | ||
| oimon | http://primaxstudio.com/stuff/scale_of_universe/ | 10:45 |
| oimon | ^^ cool way to spend 3 minutes | 10:46 |
| j0nr | anyone know how to strip all UserTextFrames out of mp3 files using eyeD3? | 10:54 |
| * czajkowski hands davmor2 a cuppa tea | 10:56 | |
| * davmor2 looks at czajkowski blankly tea............you gave me tea.............and you think I don't know you :P | 10:59 | |
| * czajkowski gives davmor2 a digestive bickie to dunk | 11:00 | |
| czajkowski | now shrup ya pup | 11:00 |
| * davmor2 goes down stairs pours away the tea and makes a coffee to dunk the bickie in | 11:02 | |
| === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum | ||
| bigcalm | Anybody know who KiltedUberGeek is on twitter? | 11:02 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: don't say I was never nice | 11:03 |
| czajkowski | you all saw that he poured the tea I made for him | 11:03 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: I don't drink tea you should know that by now :P | 11:04 |
| czajkowski | pff drink tea all english men do | 11:04 |
| bigcalm | And some Irish ladies | 11:05 |
| czajkowski | me I love my tea | 11:06 |
| czajkowski | need _tea to function | 11:06 |
| dogmatic69 | how can i force kill some process? got a VBox something or an other running at 98% and making my cpu +- 95'C | 11:21 |
| dogmatic69 | cant do it from htop with sigkill etc | 11:21 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | sudo kill -9 pid | 11:21 |
| dogmatic69 | tried killall | 11:21 |
| dogmatic69 | says no pid found, but htop says its pid 677 | 11:22 |
| bigcalm | I </3 VM :( | 11:22 |
| dogmatic69 | ye... | 11:22 |
| popey | uhoh | 11:22 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | ps aux | grep something relevant should give you the right pid | 11:22 |
| dogmatic69 | 1000 439 97.3 0.0 0 0 ? Zl 08:56 200:40 [VBoxSVC] <defunct> | 11:23 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | so it's 439 then | 11:24 |
| dogmatic69 | sudo killall -9 439 | 11:24 |
| dogmatic69 | 439: no process found | 11:24 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | How come your uid isn't your username? | 11:24 |
| popey | uhm | 11:24 |
| AlanBell | killall does process name | 11:24 |
| popey | dont do killall pid | 11:24 |
| popey | do kill -9 pid | 11:24 |
| AlanBell | kill does process number | 11:24 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | sudo kill -9 pid | 11:24 |
| popey | or killall name | 11:24 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | not killall | 11:24 |
| popey | or sudo service vboxsvc stop | 11:25 |
| dogmatic69 | killall name does nothing, kill -9 pid has no error, still running | 11:25 |
| gord | guys its restarting | 11:25 |
| gord | you can't kill it because the process already died and restarted | 11:25 |
| gord | thus it got a new pid | 11:25 |
| gord | you need to kill whatever is restarting it | 11:26 |
| dogmatic69 | popey to the rescue \o/ | 11:26 |
| popey | :D | 11:26 |
| dogmatic69 | oh no | 11:26 |
| dogmatic69 | its going... | 11:26 |
| dogmatic69 | in htop the pid is always 677 | 11:26 |
| dogmatic69 | the pxu grep still says 439 | 11:27 |
| oimon | dogmatic69: ps -ef | pastebinit | 11:27 |
| popey | ps aux | pastebinit | 11:27 |
| popey | :D | 11:27 |
| oimon | aux sux dude | 11:27 |
| dogmatic69 | http://pastebin.com/n0Sg3yr7 | 11:27 |
| oimon | ps -ef give you the parent pid too | 11:28 |
| bigcalm | !ping | 11:29 |
| lubotu3 | another contentless ping... sigh... | 11:29 |
| dogmatic69 | TheOpenSourcerer: in htop it shows my username, not 1000 | 11:29 |
| oimon | i bet your username is > 8 characters | 11:29 |
| dogmatic69 | dogmatic69 | 11:30 |
| dogmatic69 | :) | 11:30 |
| oimon | yeah, that's a feature of ps | 11:30 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: yeap but then you should love guinness too and do you? | 11:31 |
| MartijnVdS | oimon: "feature" | 11:31 |
| MartijnVdS | oimon: it's documented, but hard to find | 11:31 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: eh no | 11:32 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: so you're not really Irish then :P | 11:32 |
| czajkowski | nope half | 11:33 |
| MartijnVdS | czajkowski: only the accent? :) | 11:34 |
| czajkowski | yes my accent does make me rather unique in work here | 11:34 |
| davmor2 | MartijnVdS: I was thinking more only the attitude :D | 11:34 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: I kick your ass | 11:34 |
| davmor2 | see | 11:34 |
| MartijnVdS | davmor2: I'll just imagine a badly dubbed Japanese film | 11:35 |
| czajkowski | MartijnVdS: oi | 11:35 |
| czajkowski | fecker | 11:35 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: swearing in Irish is still swearing madame | 11:36 |
| MartijnVdS | czajkowski: you know the kind I mean then? :) | 11:36 |
| czajkowski | MartijnVdS: coming for drinks tomorrow ? | 11:36 |
| MartijnVdS | czajkowski: no, I'm on the wrong side of the North Sea | 11:36 |
| dogmatic69 | :/ | 11:39 |
| dogmatic69 | still running, tried apt-get remove | 11:39 |
| dogmatic69 | just says its still running, stop it first :S | 11:40 |
| oimon | dogmatic69: apt-get remove won't kill the process in memory. what does lsof -p 439 show | 11:42 |
| dogmatic69 | nothing | 11:42 |
| oimon | i'm surprised kill -9 439 isn't slapping it | 11:42 |
| czajkowski | ~/win 23 | 11:43 |
| czajkowski | hmm not impresssed with the new two and a half men :/ | 11:44 |
| AlanBell | not satisfied with just one? | 11:46 |
| dogmatic69 | oimon: is there like a -vv option? | 11:47 |
| czajkowski | oh yes I'll be talking at a UK flossie event | 11:52 |
| czajkowski | on Ubuntu and Ubuntu Women this year | 11:52 |
| === willcooke is now known as willcooke|lunch | ||
| czajkowski | time to be on my best behaviour BBC are here to record | 12:04 |
| czajkowski | and I'm on a massive MAC :/ | 12:04 |
| dogmatic69 | i broke down and rebooted the pc | 12:07 |
| selinuxium | Hi all o/ | 12:09 |
| oimon | i wonder how much apple pay the BBC to feature their logo on screen every 60 seconds during an episode of spooks? | 12:10 |
| czajkowski | and worse they need to use my HTC phone | 12:15 |
| MartijnVdS | oimon: is that even allowed? Ads in BBC programs? | 12:17 |
| oimon | it is constant | 12:18 |
| gord | i wonder how much they paid czajkowski to use a mac whilst filming! | 12:18 |
| gord | i smell corruption | 12:18 |
| czajkowski | gord: look a new dell has been bought | 12:18 |
| czajkowski | I've been asking where to put it | 12:18 |
| czajkowski | hence me getting live cd off AlanBell tomorrow | 12:18 |
| gord | i don't mind ;) macs are great too | 12:19 |
| oimon | spooks already got a soft telling-off in 2005 but it is worse than ever | 12:21 |
| MartijnVdS | Apple must pay more than the fine ;) | 12:21 |
| selinuxium | czajkowski, Well done in the rugger! :) | 12:23 |
| czajkowski | selinuxium: why thank you | 12:24 |
| oimon | product placement rules are very weak | 12:24 |
| czajkowski | selinuxium: coming for beers tomorrow | 12:24 |
| selinuxium | czajkowski, sadly I am still working from home until next week... Leg is getting much better though... | 12:26 |
| czajkowski | great to hear it | 12:26 |
| selinuxium | Don't think my American football career will be back on though... :) | 12:27 |
| czajkowski | awww *hugs* selinuxium | 12:28 |
| oimon | i've complained to ofcom about spooks | 12:29 |
| czajkowski | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14858056 it's over this | 12:32 |
| JGJones | Maybe this is old news by now but was just told briefly that devices coming with Windows 8 would have a means to prevent any form of dual booting with other type of OS such as linux? | 12:32 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | JGJones have a look back up there ^^^ | 12:34 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | (10:35:42) oimon: anyone see that blog post on planet about UEFI secure boot? | 12:35 |
| oimon | yep | 12:35 |
| oimon | http://slashdot.org/submission/1794130/How-MS-may-stop-you-from-installing-your-own-OS | 12:36 |
| oimon | deserves front page prominence | 12:37 |
| JGJones | The good old days of DVD player's that you get chipped is back! | 12:37 |
| * popey pokes Seeker` with the top of http://www.hantslug.org.uk/wiki/HugoRandomBenchmark | 12:39 | |
| JGJones | Ah well...if they try that with Windows 8 server, it won't be very successful, as windows doesn't have as large a dominance on servers compared to desktops | 12:40 |
| oimon | it's very likely we could see locked down hardware similar to locked down mobiles | 12:40 |
| === willcooke|lunch is now known as willcooke | ||
| JGJones | oimon - possibly, but now HTC and Samsung have changed their tune and allowing for bootloaders to be unlocked on their newest devices etc. | 12:42 |
| oimon | JGJones but what if this is driven by MS who have history of trying to enforce their desktop monopoly through OEMs? | 12:43 |
| gord | good luck selling machines in china if you need real versions of windows on them | 12:43 |
| JGJones | oimon, it's possible they could drive this for desktops, but what about servers? Linux does have a healthy share there and OEM will not want to lose sales on that | 12:44 |
| JGJones | as for mobiles - good luck to them, MS have a tiny % (around 2% perhaps) | 12:44 |
| oimon | it's easier to buy servers without MS preinstalled | 12:44 |
| oimon | so MS don't really have that strangehold - server vendors would include a bios option to turn off secure boot | 12:45 |
| oimon | i doubt you will get the same opotion on your laptop | 12:46 |
| Seeker` | popey: YOU RAT! | 12:46 |
| JGJones | aye...the desktops is the tricky area...but I'm hoping that EU might not allow it to happen | 12:46 |
| JGJones | ie machines must allow the option to turn off otherwise it's potentially an abuse for monopoly? | 12:47 |
| czajkowski | /win/win 1 | 12:47 |
| czajkowski | grrrrrr | 12:47 |
| czajkowski | hate this ***** keyboard | 12:47 |
| MartijnVdS | czajkowski: I think the word you're looking for is "poo" | 12:49 |
| Seeker` | popey: I'm gonna have to buy a better cpu now :( | 12:49 |
| czajkowski | MartijnVdS: insert word as apropiate | 12:49 |
| czajkowski | :) | 12:49 |
| MartijnVdS | czajkowski: oh you mean "lovely"? | 12:49 |
| czajkowski | it's the mac and it's tiny wee keyboard | 12:50 |
| MartijnVdS | So my first guess was close.. "poo", "wee" .... | 12:50 |
| MartijnVdS | *back to work* | 12:50 |
| popey | Seeker`: surprised yours at 4GHz is not as fast as a 3.4GHz one | 12:54 |
| gord | i want 4ghz :( | 12:55 |
| Seeker` | popey: depends on the integer maths stuff I guess. If they shaved 1 clock off the time it takes to get an integer result back... | 12:56 |
| AlanBell | TheOpenSourcerer: we need a faster server | 12:56 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | huh? | 12:56 |
| AlanBell | http://www.hantslug.org.uk/wiki/HugoRandomBenchmark | 12:56 |
| AlanBell | bit surprised the 980ex isn't top | 12:57 |
| AlanBell | I guess it has more cores, but isn't quite as screaming fast | 12:57 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | When did you run that? | 12:57 |
| AlanBell | when we were commissioning it | 12:58 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Ah OK - so no load to speak of | 12:58 |
| popey | my desktop was idle too | 12:58 |
| popey | other than ubuntu desktop running | 12:58 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I was just doing some time trials using netcat between servers | 12:58 |
| popey | and 'watch -d "grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo"' | 12:58 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | nc is approx 33% faster than scp. | 12:59 |
| popey | saw most cores at 1600MHz, one at 3400MHz | 12:59 |
| popey | I thought it was supposed to turbo up to 3.8GHz | 12:59 |
| popey | I AM DISSAPOINT | 12:59 |
| JGJones | why can't OEM's implement an unique OS UEFI startup? To work on it, all OS must have their source opened up? #wishfulthinking #damnitjoethisisn'ttwitter | 13:00 |
| AlanBell | one thing I found odd was that sometimes it was faster running in a VM guest than running in the host | 13:00 |
| * oimon squeezed into the top 10 | 13:00 | |
| Seeker` | I was top for quite a long time | 13:00 |
| * gord starts looking on amazon for liquid nitrogen cooling | 13:01 | |
| TheOpenSourcerer | real0m6.268s My desktop | 13:02 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | My home server real1m0.566s ;-) | 13:03 |
| popey | hehe | 13:04 |
| popey | I'd love to find something slower than the one at the bottom of the list | 13:04 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | It's a *downclocked* VIA C7 | 13:04 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | popey: run it on your nanode ;-) | 13:06 |
| * BigRedS swears at innodb a lot | 13:14 | |
| gord | my phone thinks i am somewhere in the mid atlantic atm, its clock is sooo broken | 13:14 |
| popey | haha TheOpenSourcerer | 13:15 |
| AlanBell | should get a raspberry pi on the list | 13:15 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: the flossie people are having me speak at their 2 day conf in May | 13:16 |
| czajkowski | cheer for the intor to Paula | 13:16 |
| AlanBell | I know :) | 13:16 |
| czajkowski | *intro | 13:16 |
| AlanBell | it might be in Queen Mary University London | 13:18 |
| czajkowski | I'm sure I'll find it by then | 13:20 |
| czajkowski | got the link to the even if spo can you pm it to me | 13:20 |
| czajkowski | I got it yesterday | 13:20 |
| popey | its odd that there's almost no AMD CPUs on the benchmark paid | 13:25 |
| popey | *page | 13:25 |
| oimon | maybe people only bother to update when they are in the top 10 | 13:26 |
| oimon | the non top ten entries being previous high rankers | 13:27 |
| oimon | or novelty entries | 13:27 |
| popey | i have put loads in there | 13:27 |
| oimon | AlanBell: what's happening maybe at queen mary? | 13:27 |
| popey | not just when at top | 13:27 |
| oimon | popey you're a bit special though | 13:28 |
| popey | thanks! :D | 13:28 |
| selinuxium | Been playing with Minus... 10GB free online storage and you get an extra gig by inviting others... :) http://min.us/rKuVgho (well, you have to try...) | 13:55 |
| popey | a) is it cross platform? | 13:59 |
| popey | b) does it work behind proxies? | 13:59 |
| andylockran | what alternative cli print commands are there to lp ? | 14:09 |
| andylockran | i.e. - what does cups use to send the test page to the printer? | 14:09 |
| MartijnVdS | andylockran: it just opens a pipe to itself I guess | 14:18 |
| MartijnVdS | andylockran: /var/run/cups/cups.sock looks useful for that? maybe? | 14:18 |
| andylockran | MartijnVdS: I've got to get an old jaunty server printing to a Zebra | 14:20 |
| MartijnVdS | cupsPrintFiles() in libcups | 14:20 |
| andylockran | had to create a custom ppd and it works fine on lucid and natty | 14:20 |
| andylockran | lp is printing blanks | 14:21 |
| andylockran | well, when asked to print a pdf | 14:21 |
| andylockran | whereas the test page is printed fine | 14:21 |
| MartijnVdS | andylockran: test page could be plain .ps | 14:21 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| andylockran | wahey! | 14:44 |
| andylockran | thanks MartijnVdS that's sorted it :p | 14:44 |
| oimon | i'm not sure if minus.com actually keep your data private | 14:50 |
| andylockran | MartijnVdS: awesome - thanks for your help :) | 14:58 |
| selinuxium | popey, it is multi-platform. Unsure about proxy as I haven't tried.. | 15:08 |
| s-fox | Hello. | 15:25 |
| brobostigon | is it possible to put a foursquare widget on my website? by some method? | 15:26 |
| s-fox | brobostigon, http://aboutfoursquare.com/highlight-your-foursquare-venue-on-your-companys-website-or-facebook-page-with-placewidget/ ? | 15:28 |
| brobostigon | thank you s-fox :) | 15:28 |
| diplo | Anyone use fail2ban on there servers ? | 15:32 |
| brobostigon | yes. | 15:33 |
| diplo | Just wondering if its worth the effort to setup, just seeing lots of attempts at ssh | 15:33 |
| diplo | I've got key based auth on so not getting in any time soon | 15:34 |
| Laney | wasn't much effort ime | 15:34 |
| diplo | But just thought it would be worth banning them trying | 15:34 |
| brobostigon | Laney: what is the alternate, in your mind? | 15:34 |
| Laney | alternate to what? fail2ban? | 15:35 |
| Laney | denyhosts? using a different port for ssh | 15:35 |
| brobostigon | yes | 15:35 |
| diplo | yeah, was debating moving ports as well | 15:35 |
| diplo | My router sucks though | 15:35 |
| diplo | Can open new ports but can't forward to different ones :/ | 15:36 |
| oimon | fail2ban is easy and useful | 15:36 |
| popey | diplo: i just moved ssh to another port | 15:36 |
| Laney | limiting the IPs that can connect | 15:36 |
| Laney | various | 15:36 |
| diplo | I did debate about that as well popey, may just do it tonight instead | 15:37 |
| diplo | Skys T&C's say not to use a non Sky router | 15:37 |
| diplo | But may just do it anyhoo | 15:38 |
| gord | just means you can't get support from them without using their router | 15:38 |
| diplo | Friend had lots of speed issues using different routers | 15:38 |
| gord | me too, but that was mostly because sky are kinda crap | 15:38 |
| bigcalm | I replaced my parents' sky adsl router with a netgear one. Works just fine | 15:38 |
| diplo | Friends dropped from 8mb down to 4mb ish with 2 different routers, one being a draytek 2820 | 15:39 |
| popey | reminds me, must reboot mu superhub and enable modem only mode | 15:41 |
| popey | Seeker`: oi | 15:42 |
| popey | Seeker`: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-scribes can you add AlanBell as an admin of that group? | 15:43 |
| popey | Seeker`: given he maintains meetingology, the bot people are now using | 15:43 |
| Seeker` | popey: able to reactivate your membership? | 15:46 |
| popey | I'm not a member | 15:46 |
| popey | i tried to join but its pending | 15:47 |
| popey | and only you and ausimage can fix that | 15:47 |
| Seeker` | ah | 15:47 |
| Seeker` | hmm | 15:47 |
| popey | and he is awol | 15:47 |
| popey | AIUI | 15:47 |
| Seeker` | I can't change people to administrators | 15:47 |
| popey | bah | 15:47 |
| popey | why not, you're an admin | 15:48 |
| Seeker` | only people I can change admin status on is me and ausimage | 15:48 |
| popey | yeah, AlanBell isnt in the team | 15:48 |
| popey | he tried to join but nobody approved him | 15:48 |
| Seeker` | he is now | 15:48 |
| popey | ah, so he is | 15:48 |
| AlanBell | o/ | 15:49 |
| Seeker` | maybe only the owner of the group can create new admins? | 15:49 |
| Laney | only the owner of a team can make people admins | 15:49 |
| Laney | SNAP | 15:49 |
| AlanBell | should I move the code in there or something? | 15:50 |
| Seeker` | is there a process for marking people as long term missing and take control of it? | 15:50 |
| popey | yeah | 15:50 |
| popey | contact them, see if they can do it out of courtesy | 15:51 |
| popey | if they dont respond or tell you to go away, contact lp admins | 15:51 |
| popey | in #launchpad | 15:51 |
| Seeker` | tried contacting ausimage? | 15:51 |
| popey | I have not | 15:51 |
| === user_ is now known as geekMePlease | ||
| geekMePlease | How can you set up network manager only handle mobile-broadband? | 15:52 |
| popey | would you like to, as you're admin? | 15:52 |
| Seeker` | sure | 15:52 |
| geekMePlease | * I use Wicd for my other connections | 15:52 |
| popey | why do you use wicd? | 15:52 |
| geekMePlease | popey: Yes | 15:53 |
| geekMePlease | popey: Because, I want to set on and off particular devices and connections | 15:53 |
| geekMePlease | popey: In network manager, you can set only all connections off or all connection on. | 15:54 |
| popey | define "connections"? | 15:54 |
| popey | thanks Seeker` | 15:54 |
| popey | geekMePlease: i can switch off wired, and switch off wifi individually | 15:55 |
| geekMePlease | popey: I have many wifi -connections | 15:55 |
| popey | you have more than one wifi device? | 15:55 |
| geekMePlease | popey: Yes, I am a radio-amatour | 15:56 |
| oimon | wow facebook just changed. | 15:57 |
| geekMePlease | popey: Is it possible to set up network-manager only handle mobile-broadband? | 15:58 |
| popey | i dont know | 15:59 |
| popey | i mean, yes | 15:59 |
| popey | you can, but I dont know how that affects wicd because I dont use wicd | 15:59 |
| geekMePlease | popey: I do not understand how network-manager works. Is there any file for its settings? | 16:00 |
| Seeker` | AlanBell: You should have been CC'd on the email I sent | 16:00 |
| Seeker` | AlanBell: If he doesn't respond, give me a poke after what you feel is an appropriate amount of time and I'll go speak to the guys in #launchpad | 16:01 |
| popey | thanks Seeker` ! | 16:02 |
| AlanBell | thanks Seeker` | 16:02 |
| Seeker` | AlanBell: you now have full access (and +F) in -scribes too | 16:07 |
| MartijnVdS | hmm | 16:10 |
| AlanBell | thanks | 16:18 |
| diplo | Guys any advice here | 16:20 |
| diplo | ssh-keygen -t rsa | 16:20 |
| diplo | creates a pub key as expected | 16:21 |
| diplo | I copy that to authorized_keys | 16:21 |
| diplo | Not working, when I look at other keys I have put there when I arrow down over them it skips to next one each time | 16:21 |
| diplo | On the new one it lets me arrow down each line | 16:21 |
| diplo | Any thoughts... | 16:21 |
| diplo | Copy and paste from one to another breaking something ? | 16:22 |
| MartijnVdS | diplo: the keys are one very long line | 16:22 |
| MartijnVdS | well | 16:22 |
| MartijnVdS | one key per line | 16:22 |
| MartijnVdS | your editor might be wrapping it strangely | 16:22 |
| * MartijnVdS prefers ssh-copy-id these days | 16:22 | |
| MartijnVdS | that does it for me | 16:22 |
| diplo | I was thinking that after typing that | 16:22 |
| diplo | I keep meaning to try that | 16:22 |
| diplo | Maybe tomorrows job, just edited the file now | 16:23 |
| diplo | See if that works | 16:23 |
| diplo | Thanks MartijnVdS | 16:23 |
| MartijnVdS | GGAAHH | 16:24 |
| * MartijnVdS shouts at Banshee | 16:24 | |
| MartijnVdS | Method "Set" with signature "s(ii)" on interface "org.gnome.GConf.Database" doesn't exist | 16:24 |
| MartijnVdS | (yes I have a bug number, but it's private) | 16:25 |
| diplo | yeah it was that, but deo will try ssh-copy-id tomorrow | 16:25 |
| diplo | has that been round a while ? | 16:25 |
| diplo | off home | 16:28 |
| diplo | cya later all | 16:28 |
| bigcalm | !ping | 16:41 |
| lubotu3 | another contentless ping... sigh... | 16:41 |
| MartijnVdS | !pong | 16:41 |
| lubotu3 | pong is an old atari game. It's fun! | 16:41 |
| bigcalm | !ding | 16:41 |
| lubotu3 | dong | 16:41 |
| MartijnVdS | !poo | 16:41 |
| === MichealH` is now known as Guest53887 | ||
| === webpigeon_laptop is now known as webpigeon | ||
| === MichealH` is now known as Guest6567 | ||
| JDmaX | hi ubuntu fans | 17:13 |
| daubers_ | lo | 17:21 |
| === daubers_ is now known as daubers | ||
| * daubers is cold | 17:27 | |
| PalaPad | Evening | 17:36 |
| majdekalel | how can i configure cgi-bin folder in ubuntu ??? im using apache2 ?????? | 17:37 |
| PalaPad | In the httpd conf | 17:38 |
| majdekalel | is there any libraries i have to install to use cgi ? | 17:38 |
| majdekalel | or just configure cgi-bin folder ? | 17:38 |
| PalaPad | Or if you are using virtual hosts you can define them explicitly in the config files | 17:38 |
| PalaPad | I don't think you need any extra modules for cgi-bin but I have never used it so you should check | 17:39 |
| Lcawte | hmm, where is my java installed @ :/ | 17:59 |
| hamitron | somewhere in / | 18:00 |
| hamitron | ;) | 18:00 |
| bigcalm | opt? | 18:07 |
| Lcawte | Nope, but I got it... | 18:11 |
| Lcawte | umm, right, why won't my permissions stay the same.. | 18:11 |
| Lcawte | I try to give a file +x but it keeps getting removed.. | 18:12 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: prod | 18:14 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: oi oi | 18:19 |
| MartijnVdS | So, anyone here on oneiric? :) | 18:29 |
| * BigRedS is | 18:42 | |
| czajkowski | me | 18:42 |
| MartijnVdS | On amd64? | 18:42 |
| BigRedS | yeah | 18:42 |
| BigRedS | well, not right now, the PC's off, but I can turn it on if you're after a test of something | 18:43 |
| MartijnVdS | Does flash have sound for you? While playing sound using some other app (music from banshee, video from totem, etc.) | 18:43 |
| BigRedS | Oooh, I'll give it a go, hang on | 18:43 |
| MartijnVdS | I can play multiple sounds at a time, as long as none of those is Flash | 18:43 |
| BigRedS | Oh man, you've just made me remember why I hardly ever turn this on :) | 18:48 |
| BigRedS | but, yeah, rhythmbox and iplayer can both make noise at the same time | 18:51 |
| MartijnVdS | hmmm | 18:52 |
| MartijnVdS | BigRedS: latest oneiric? | 18:52 |
| BigRedS | ah no, just updating | 18:53 |
| BigRedS | I think it's about a week old | 18:53 |
| MartijnVdS | hmm | 18:53 |
| MartijnVdS | because libasound2-plugins:i386 is broken for me, and I think that provides Pulseaudio integration | 18:55 |
| BigRedS | yeah, even updated I can do it | 19:07 |
| MartijnVdS | BigRedS: hmm.. do you have the ia32libs package installed? | 19:08 |
| MartijnVdS | ia32-libs, sorry | 19:08 |
| BigRedS | oh, wait. I've a 686 kernel | 19:09 |
| BigRedS | hm, that wasn't the plan | 19:09 |
| MartijnVdS | that would explain :) | 19:09 |
| BigRedS | haha, yeah | 19:09 |
| N8 | Hello? | 19:19 |
| === N8 is now known as Guest84263 | ||
| AlanBell | hello | 19:20 |
| Guest84263 | Hi, I'm looking for help installing ubuntu for my system | 19:20 |
| AlanBell | great, how far have you got with it? | 19:20 |
| Guest84263 | I have already burned the disk, and I swapped my hard drive out for a blank one. I am in the stage of installing it right now | 19:21 |
| Guest84263 | By the way, thank you very much for helping me | 19:21 |
| AlanBell | ok, shout if you have any questions as the install goes along | 19:22 |
| Guest84263 | I'm at one of those points right now | 19:22 |
| Guest84263 | I have started the install, and when the ubuntu logo with the 5 dots was on there for 10 minutes, It gives me this screen with 3 errors on it | 19:23 |
| AlanBell | 10 minutes sounds a bit long to get to the start of the installer | 19:24 |
| Guest84263 | I don't know, but the first 2 times, I restarted because the num-lock key was not responding after 5 min. | 19:25 |
| AlanBell | what machine is it? | 19:25 |
| Guest84263 | Kinda one I built out of legacy components. :/ Runs great on windows, though | 19:26 |
| AlanBell | processor? graphics? | 19:26 |
| AlanBell | ram | 19:26 |
| Guest84263 | old socket 7, 950 mhz. Um, Intel Coppermine, graphics card (old) .5 gig. sdram (also old) | 19:27 |
| AlanBell | well that explains the 10 minutes :) | 19:27 |
| Guest84263 | yeah. I tweaked up windows so it would run smooth, so I kinda forgot how old it was | 19:28 |
| AlanBell | that is a pentium 3 right? | 19:28 |
| Guest84263 | what do you mean? | 19:28 |
| AlanBell | the coppermine chip | 19:29 |
| Guest84263 | yes. I have several others on my desk Lol. | 19:29 |
| Guest84263 | 950 Mhz. socket 7 | 19:29 |
| Guest84263 | You there? | 19:32 |
| AlanBell | yeah | 19:33 |
| Guest84263 | Do you want me to tell you what the error messages are? | 19:33 |
| AlanBell | I think that might technically be below the hardware requirements, I was just checking them | 19:33 |
| AlanBell | however it should work | 19:33 |
| AlanBell | slowly | 19:33 |
| AlanBell | what are the errors then? | 19:33 |
| AlanBell | even if it does work I think you would enjoy Ubuntu a lot more on a more modern machine, even an Atom motherboard with intel graphics or something would be fine | 19:34 |
| AlanBell | and there is a good chance the old graphics card is not supported now | 19:35 |
| Guest84263 | I know, but I can't afford that kind of stuff. Lol And I'm more into the code, and windows is very buggy sometimes | 19:35 |
| Guest84263 | So I have to make do with what I have | 19:35 |
| AlanBell | try freecycle | 19:36 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I installed Ubuntu 10.10 on an old 500Mhz PIII laptop (256M RAM) at the weekend over the network (PXE boot) | 19:36 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Worked OK. | 19:36 |
| AlanBell | interesting to know | 19:36 |
| Pernig | i ran an Ubuntu live CD on a 800Mhz Pentium 3 | 19:36 |
| Guest84263 | Yeah, windows will even work on a 300 mhz. computer with 256 meg. Ram | 19:36 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | The chap bought me two pints for doing it! Yay free beer! :-D | 19:37 |
| Guest84263 | So I bet that ubuntu should run on my old clunker, right? | 19:37 |
| Pernig | Guest: have you considered any of the versions with lighter desktop environments? | 19:37 |
| AlanBell | Guest84263: windows 7? | 19:37 |
| === mgdm is now known as mgdmbot | ||
| TheOpenSourcerer | Probably Guest84263 although it's a bit hard to tell but you should get some error messages or something rather than just 10 minutes of dots... | 19:38 |
| === mgdmbot is now known as mgdm | ||
| Guest84263 | I could not boot from usb, so I had to burn a disc, and I just got the newest. | 19:38 |
| Guest84263 | HOW DO YOU CHANGE YOUR NICKNAME?? | 19:38 |
| AlanBell | /nick nameyouwant | 19:38 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | It might be worth trying the "alternate" cd. It uses a text based installer. | 19:38 |
| Pernig | i recommend Lubuntu | 19:38 |
| AlanBell | but you can't have a nick that someone else has | 19:39 |
| === Guest84263 is now known as natesky9 | ||
| AlanBell | ni natesky9 | 19:39 |
| AlanBell | hi even | 19:39 |
| natesky9 | Yes. I hate being faceless | 19:39 |
| Pernig | haha | 19:39 |
| natesky9 | ok, I had it run for 10 minutes, and it seemed like it was reading the disc, then it does this wierd thing where it fills top-left corner with random letter | 19:40 |
| natesky9 | first it was Q, now it is U | 19:40 |
| natesky9 | says busybox, and operates just like MS-DOS | 19:41 |
| === mgdm is now known as mgdmbot | ||
| natesky9 | ~And for the record, I currently can not try another os at the moment. I am out of discs, and it will not load from flash drive | 19:43 |
| natesky9 | Hello? | 19:44 |
| AlanBell | try typing "exit" | 19:45 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: if it's busybox, that probably means it can't find the root fs | 19:45 |
| MartijnVdS | which tends to be Bad® | 19:45 |
| AlanBell | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=879993 | 19:45 |
| natesky9 | whoa! tried that, it said that it could not find the directory of like, 15 files | 19:46 |
| === user is now known as geekMePlease | ||
| natesky9 | so what do do if it keeps bringing me to busybox when I try installing it from the cd? | 19:48 |
| geekMePlease | Is this: iwconfig wlan0 key off, the right way to disable one of your wifis? | 19:49 |
| geekMePlease | * it does not seem to have any effect | 19:49 |
| MartijnVdS | geekMePlease: no, it only disables encryption | 19:50 |
| AlanBell | natesky9: well you can try the boot options in the forums post I linked to, or upgrade the hardware a bit | 19:50 |
| geekMePlease | MartijnVdS: What is the right way? | 19:50 |
| geekMePlease | MartijnVdS: permanent | 19:50 |
| natesky9 | when do I hit F6 to bring up grub? | 19:50 |
| MartijnVdS | geekMePlease: do you want to completely disable it? or just disable it for the current boot? | 19:50 |
| geekMePlease | MartijnVdS: Completely, I have two cards | 19:51 |
| MartijnVdS | geekMePlease: pull one out ;) | 19:51 |
| geekMePlease | MartijnVdS: Not possible now. | 19:51 |
| MartijnVdS | geekMePlease: does the laptop have a wifi on/off switch? | 19:51 |
| geekMePlease | MartijnVdS: No | 19:51 |
| MartijnVdS | rfkill - tool for enabling and disabling wireless devices | 19:52 |
| MartijnVdS | geekMePlease: you want to look at that tool | 19:52 |
| MartijnVdS | geekMePlease: apt-cache show rfkill | 19:52 |
| natesky9 | when it boots, where do I hit F6 to bring up the GRUB? | 19:53 |
| geekMePlease | MartijnVdS: Thank you! Need to google a bit about its parameters. | 19:53 |
| === mgdmbot is now known as MGDMBOT | ||
| MartijnVdS | geekMePlease: "rfkill" is what the function you want is called :) | 19:53 |
| natesky9 | Hello? | 19:55 |
| natesky9 | Can someone help me? | 19:58 |
| natesky9 | Hello? | 20:01 |
| natesky9 | Can someone help me? | 20:02 |
| Pernig | natesky9: what's up? | 20:06 |
| Myrtti | he left | 20:07 |
| Pernig | oh aye | 20:07 |
| natesky9 | Hello, is anybody there? | 20:08 |
| === user is now known as geekMePlease | ||
| geekMePlease | MartijnVdS: Network-manager takes the rfkill block out if I use it. | 20:10 |
| geekMePlease | MartijnVdS: I put rfkill block $IP-Wlan0 to startup-scripts | 20:11 |
| geekMePlease | How can you configure which devices Network-manager use? | 20:11 |
| natesky9 | Hello? | 20:13 |
| geekMePlease | MartijnVdS: lol, http://askubuntu.com/questions/3677/disable-wireless-on-startup | 20:15 |
| AlanBell | well that was a big crash I just had | 20:16 |
| AlanBell | natesky9: hi | 20:16 |
| AlanBell | natesky9: so when you see the keyboard and person symbol, hit space and you should get to a menu | 20:16 |
| AlanBell | not entirely sure you can set the options you want there | 20:16 |
| AlanBell | I tried it in a virtual machine and ended up running myself out of memory and ended up rebooting my laptop | 20:17 |
| natesky9 | Oh, Had to reboot. Mine froze after 10 minutes | 20:18 |
| natesky9 | Is there a way we can chat w/o seeing everything else? | 20:19 |
| AlanBell | no, unless you want to pay my consultancy rates :) | 20:20 |
| natesky9 | You there? | 20:21 |
| AlanBell | there are lots of people here, and I am in 56 other channels with many parallel conversations in progress | 20:22 |
| natesky9 | Oh, ok | 20:22 |
| natesky9 | Trying to reboot my computer to boot on cd, but it keeps doing network boot even though I have it on last priority | 20:23 |
| natesky9 | I got the menu up, what should I go to? (never would have figured this out) | 20:24 |
| AlanBell | space, then enter to select english, then f6 to get the other options menu | 20:25 |
| AlanBell | check the acpi=off and noapic options and press escape to get out of that menu | 20:27 |
| AlanBell | then type in the rest of the line the forum post was on about | 20:27 |
| AlanBell | all_generic_ide pci=nomsi | 20:27 |
| AlanBell | so you add that bit ^^ to the end of the line of boot options | 20:27 |
| AlanBell | and hit return to boot I think | 20:28 |
| AlanBell | and wait and hope, and if it doesn't work, get a new computer :) | 20:28 |
| natesky9 | or more likele, make one. Lol | 20:28 |
| natesky9 | *likely | 20:28 |
| natesky9 | Well, right now I think it's froze, I have to wait for it | 20:29 |
| natesky9 | well, it's reading the disk right now, I'm not sure if it's working. | 20:35 |
| gord | http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=11075 that is kind of an expensive but to reproduce | 20:41 |
| Azelphur | indeed | 20:41 |
| popey | haha | 20:42 |
| natesky9 | how do I keep it from booting up in UNDI? | 20:46 |
| natesky9 | never mind, I got it up in the menu | 20:46 |
| natesky9 | Hey Alen, you there? | 20:50 |
| bigcalm | And, relax | 22:07 |
| samm | HazRPG: Hey man. Is Facebook on Pidgin not working for you? | 22:45 |
| samm | HazRPG: Since today I'm getting the error message "Not Authorized" and I can't use XMPP :( | 22:45 |
| Pernig | samm: i am connected to Facebook chat via xmpp right now | 22:46 |
| samm | Pernig: Hmmm I wonder what my problem is then | 22:46 |
| samm | I have been poked by several people over a year ago, is it time to respond yet? | 22:47 |
| Pernig | well i am using kopete so i guess it rules out the service having changed | 22:47 |
| samm | Arghhh I hate this stupid "Not Authorized" message | 22:49 |
| samm | I want to chat | 22:49 |
| Pernig | it would be interesting to know if any other pidgin users can get on | 22:52 |
| samm | Pernig: I've fixed it | 22:53 |
| samm | Pernig: The solution was to log out of Facebook, and type my username in instead of my email address | 22:53 |
| Pernig | cool | 22:53 |
| samm | Pernig: I asked HazRPG because I know he uses FB on Pidgin | 22:53 |
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